Led Zeppelin: Were They Just Rip-Off Artists?

Submitted by: 5cats 6 years ago in Entertainment

Were they geniuses? Or did they just steal whole songs for fun and profit? Listen to the overwhelming evidence!
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Female 2,415
Looks like they were both genius` and plagiarists.
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Male 41,152
My comp was down for days with a virus :(

Curses @davymid! I`ll fool you yet! (lolz! I joke! I submit LOTS of non-political stuff too, eh?)

The issue is that they failed to give credit (and a couple of bucks) to the artists they covered or sampled from. If they had, they wouldn`t have lost the suits.

OTOH perhaps it was a cleaver ploy: Hey, we`ll make lots of money, then share it, tax-free, with the origional guys through lawsuits!
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Female 1,236
I like the K. Pilkington quote, but...LZ never gave credit where it was due. That`s why they got their asses sued.

The Rolling Stones LOVED the blues, but they put their own twist on it--didn`t just call it their own creation--& really advocated for the OG Bluesmen (Muddy Waters, et al). I have always loved LZ`a zound--& still do--but they should`ve f*cking owned up & given proper credit (legally).

What would some of you be saying if Run DMC tried to act like they themselves wrote every word & musical note of "Walk this Way"?

If you love music, then you MUST get what I`m sayin.
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Female 535
Ok so what is the point of me thinking I`m going to hear a Cars song in between every number?
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Male 237
im with rambunction on this one
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Female 2,525
White people stealing music from black people? That never happens.
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Male 96
what a load of $ hite, every heard if the british blues revival?! nah...didnt think so.
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Male 881
"There are only so many noises in the world and because there is so much stuff, every noise has been used five times." -Karl Pilkington
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Male 61
music is all repeated... all the greats did covers.
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Male 25,416
There are so many chords that can be made into songs, what do u expect!
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Male 65
how did i know that some @$$hole had to mention rap music in a subject that clearly has nothing to do with it other than its musical genre?
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Male 12,138
Went out on limb on this bet. Knew it was 5Cats from the description, even though it wasn`t political (for once). Still batting at 100%.
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Male 17
Yep, they`re called cover songs. Every band in the history of the world has done them.

I`m not disputing the implication that Zeppelin sucks though. That is very much true.
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Male 2,737
It doesn`t matter. Zep does a better job playing those songs anyway. Wanna check out rip offs? Check out the Rap music community.
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Male 81
So they remade some songs like most artists do. but the difference is that they did it better. I still love the band
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Male 28
@SarahofBorg

There is a difference between say a guy like Eric Clapton who after he got over being declared God by the music fans of London did nothing by talk about where the music he was playing started and LZ who claimed the riffs as there own. These guys essentially stole Willie Dixon songs, reved them tempo, played with the lyrics and presented them as there own. They didnt claim to cover, they claimed to write em.

Were the kick ass band? Yes, I have gotten the Led out, but they were dishonest. Worse then the lies to me, is the fact that were ripping off the same people whose albums and songs they obviously loved.
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Male 2,402
What did you expect from servants of satan?
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Male 674
"Led Zeppelin has never sued anyone for sampling their music."

I don`t if that is true but I do know, Zep has paid out a lot of dough for ripping others.
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Male 17,511
...And just how many bands have `covered` Led Zeppelin over the decades ? At least a hundred.

Everything now is a remix of a remix nowadays, One thing though, Led Zeppelin has never sued anyone for sampling their music.
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Female 3,562
Bad to the Bone is a rip off, Tainted Love is a cover, there`s thousands of songs out there that EVERYONE knows that are actually covers of songs that NOBODY knows. Led Zep is hardly alone and I still love them anyway. I happen to like their versions better than the originals anyway.
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Male 4,902
they suck anyways
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Male 59
Led Zeppelin remains "The World`s Greatest Cover Band"
and they did all of the songs better!!
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Male 1,010
@ericthevikin and @jensito:
[quote]Regarding "Hammer of Gods": The book has been the subject of much criticism. All three surviving members of the band have cast doubts on its accuracy, with one article summarising their collective view of the book as a "catalogue of error and distortion."[/quote] Now, as for the other copyright cases, i have yet to see anything that manifests as nothing but rumors and accusations. I found this article on TMZ, dated june 2010: [quote]Led Zeppelin historians have chronicled the creation of that rock band’s early classic “Dazed and Confused” for so long it’s understandable if fans can no longer tell what’s true about its authorship. One thing is for certain: Jake Holmes, a folk singer who asserts he recorded a similar song, also called “Dazed and Confused,” in 1967, says that he is the song’s creator and has filed a copyright infringement lawsuit against Led Zeppelin.[/quote]
So.
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Male 22
Zeppelin actually got sued and LOST. For multiple millions. They blatantly ripped off the sounds of the southern blues artists. As did the Beach Boys. Don`t believe me? Check out Cadillac Records.

Muddy Waters, Lil Walter, and Howlin` Wolf demand it.
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Male 159
Led zeps versions sound way better for the time they were making this. Tells me they deserve to have claims to it.....
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Male 7
You obviously don`t grasp the concept of covers. It`s fairly common in the music world, especially in blues, jazz and the early heavy rock. It`s also common to give the tunes different names.
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Male 840
This is widespread in the music industry. Led Zeppelin sampled many songs and have been sued many times. Many other artists have sampled Led Zeppelin songs but Zep has not sued once.

Time to break out the LZ CDs. I haven`t heard enough of them lately.
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Male 759
If you read the Hammer of the Gods, it tells howtey did get sued.
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Male 12
Aren`t these just covers?
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Male 795
Music inspires music. What more do you need to know?
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Male 80
white man always steals everything, i cant believe we act like were all surprised.
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Male 358
Joe Roosterer?
HAHA! stupid automatic language filter!
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Male 358
O.K., so let`s come down on the Who and Blue Cheer for summertime blues and Joe roosterer for A little help from my friends. How about Under my Wheels by Alice Cooper which is musically a rip off of Sufferagette city by David Bowie.
The list goes on and on.
In the 60s everyone covered everyone elses music without any problems.
Do you think if Joan Baez really gave a crap she wouldn`t have sued Zep?
Modern artists are constantly sampling older music and putting it in their songs.That`s a direct recording in their song from the other artist, not even them covering it with their own instruments. Led Zeppelin will always be the greatest blues influenced, hard rock band ever. People that post stuff like this and get their panties in a bunch over it are just as bad as birthers and truthers, digging up crap that no one cares about.
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Male 21
Pretty much yeah Led Zeppelin were rip off artist. But that has been known for a long time.
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Male 1,920
Nothing new really, happens all the time.

check this out:
Le Moribond
Seasons in the Sun
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Male 1,764
You know that most of these blues standards were not just re-worked by Zeppelin, but a lot of other, more modern bands? That`s the whole point of blues standards and Led Zep was not by any chance the only band "guilty" of covering them.
That being said, a few of these are actually plagiarized, for example, I don`t think you can call a song that wasn`t released 10 years before your version, with its original artist alive and without crediting him, a remake of a classic.
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Male 2,796
Well I would think that since they have dozens of other songs that aren`t rip-offs that... OH LOOK A PENNY!!
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Male 360
i`ve never liked their music. not gonna waste any more time on this post. good day sir.
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Male 1,021
If Zep credited these songs on the album and presented the Zep version as covers, then I have no problem with it.

But if Zep did not mention these songs, then yes, that would be a rip-off. Much like most of Green day`s music is today a rip off of other songs.
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Male 114
Although LZ do have many great and original tracks, its just wrong that they can get rich of songs writin by earlier artist and played with more modern instuments. Rolling stones are famous for this.
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Male 237
Covers, inspirations, and they drive home even more strongly because they are known to people, at least subconsciously. It`s only recently the "big labels" have made it impossible to do such things, which is a crying shame. Such inspirations were especially hard to give attribution since you didn`t have a Shazam/SoundHound at that time, so trying to find out Ye Ole` 78rpm from the `20s is highly improbable nigh impossible.

Just think of Paul`s Boutique by Beastie Boys, that probably couldn`t have been done with the modern rules. Or look at the credits in Lemon Jelly`s `64-`95, it`s ridiculous.
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Male 1,073
Performers (including cover bands) are supposed to have license to play copyrighted material. Do they? Will they actually get caught? I doubt it. But that`s what is legally required.

See here for an example of licensing
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Male 69
Problem was they didn`t give credit to the original composers and claimed them as original songs. Im not too sure about all of these, but some are.
"“Dazed And Confused” – released on Led Zeppelin’s first album, the song was originally credited as “written by Jimmy Page” and was one of the band’s most signature songs. However, it was NOT written by Jimmy Page. In fact, “Dazed and Confused” was originally penned by folk singer Jake Holmes who caught Page’s attention one night at the Village Theater in Greenwich Village while opening for The Yardbirds (Page’s band at the time). Jimmy arranged a version of the song for The Yardbirds but didn’t record a studio version until 1969 with Led Zeppelin. “Dazed And Confused” went on
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covers and copyright are 2 different things. not saying which this cause i never liked LZ so i never really got into them. who sang `i shot the sheriff`? bet you didnt say eric clapton, and if you did you already get my point. just say`n.
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Male 12
Last 2 sounded different
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Male 257
led zep influenced by old blues standards?
not noteworthy at all.
all i noticed here was bonham`s awesome drumming.
which i notice every freakin time i listen.

nothing to see here, move along...
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Male 219
So remakes and reworking an older song is plagiarism? Well then, every band out there is a plagiarist. Johnny Cash, Zep, the Beatles...Heck, there are whole albums of nothing but covers. This isn`t plagiarized, it`s a matter of respect...after all, you don`t cover a tune that you hate.
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Male 40,259

what`s the big deal?
I thought you guys liked it when someone "Covers" someone elses music.
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Male 10,338
$50 says they gave credit to the original songwriters.
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Male 1,010
This is like the people who find "secret codes" in the bible, put there by the "temple knights" and they reveal where you can find the holy grail. Of course, you`ll be able to extract the same codes from any Harry Potter or book - but hey, for those who can`t even handle Lord of The Rings without getting paranoid i can see how this "evidence" seems plausible :-p
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Male 1,073
It`s called copyright infringement. Not to say that LZ didn`t buy the rights or have the permission of the original authors - I don`t know. But if they didn`t and it wasn`t in the public domain at the will of the author, it was plagiarized.

Copyright law states:

you CANNOT reproduce the music or lyrics
you CANNOT distribute the music or lyrics either for free, for no profit, or for profit
you CANNOT perform the music or lyrics in public
you CANNOT play a recording of the music or lyrics in public--even if you own the CD
you CANNOT make a derivative work or arrangement for public use in any form
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Male 102
I didn`t know doing covers was equal to plagiarism.
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Male 4,745
A lot of old blues tunes became standards, covered by pretty much every band out there. I`ve never been sure why Zeppelin was targeted for doing the same thing, only for picking lesser known songs...Either way, who gives a crap. They took crappy songs and made them into hits.
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Male 55
Reworking an old song is plagiarism now?
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Female 386
They could have AT LEAST changed the song tittles lol wtf
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Male 196
Never liked their s*** music anyway
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Male 41,152
Link: Led Zeppelin: Were They Just Rip-Off Artists? [Rate Link] - Were they geniuses? Or did they just steal whole songs for fun and profit? Listen to the overwhelming evidence!
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