Jon Stewart Owns Bill O`Reilly On His Own Show

Submitted by: Webz 6 years ago in

Stewart calls out Fox News for their "selective outrage" over Common"s White House visit.
There are 149 comments:
Female 36
drating Bill O `Reilly, just because you speak louder, that doesn`t make you correct.
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Female 129
IN YOUR FACE YOU RACIST @SSHOLE!!!!

This clip made me so happy!
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Male 383
"Meanwhile, libs think they deserve taxpayer money for NPR, and yet think Rush, Beck, and Fox News should be shut down. It all stems from a belief that their view is the "correct" view."

Again, like the conservatives youre lumping all libs into one concrete group. If the good is ever going to come out of this country, it is when misleading bulltalk like this is learned to be self-corrected when heard by the individuals.

You can`t make good decisions if you start out with the wrong premises, the wrong ingredients.

As for Bob Dylan vs Common, like I said history will take its course. And if both of them eventually end up at the same stature and reputation but at different times, this controversy will be a drop in the bucket. Right now, let it not take more of our attentions than it warrants. Tbh, I even have pba friends who agree Common is more or less being used as a political arrow by only god really knows who.
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Male 383
"I have never heard a conservative say that a liberal tv or radio show host is a threat to the country. Conservatives don`t try to shut down opposing viewpoints in order to validate themselves."

That says it all because apparently you aren`t receiving a wide enough gamut of viewpoints. Either that, or you are trying to perpetuate a misleading binary via our conversation that lumps all conservatives together into a concrete classification, that is for your convenience the innocent class vs the aggressive class.
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Male 383
"Why? Why does anyone care about a show that they are not forced to listen to, that sustains itself because it is successful?"

Because as a communal species, individuals work together to exchange information to survive and in human beings` cases, to progress; that information includes the emotion of fear. What is out there to fear? For those mentioned moderates, they eventually hear extreme views from both sides of the political spectrum. Reverberations of fear naturally garner attention and so people may not be forced to listen to these such shows, but eventually they somehow do from listeners of such shows passing on the transmission of fear. If the people want to change their quality of life for the better, they if smart, will try to weed out the sources of fear that repeatedly lead them falsely and clutter their attention spans.
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Female 426
Annnd that`s why I love Jon Stewart
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Male 80
Jon Stewart is the king of cool.
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Male 437
"When as a matter of fact the person in question merely discussed the idea."

You know, from all the screaming about how Fox News is a lie factory, I would think someone would be able to come up with much better than this.

Anytime Fox News does a story involving controversy, they get two people who disagree about it to come on. This happens during every program, usually with different people. There are plenty of chances for people to call them out on perceived disinformation. I guarantee that if someone says something incorrect on Fox News, someone is going to call them out on it pretty fast. It isn`t like conservatives are the only ones paying attention.
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Male 437
"There are many moderates who also wish Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck off the air."

Why? Why does anyone care about a show that they are not forced to listen to, that sustains itself because it is successful?

"As is how many a far right sees liberal viewpoints. Liberalism, to them, threatens `the soundness of the country` and `human intelligence.`"

I have never heard a conservative say that a liberal tv or radio show host is a threat to the country. Conservatives don`t try to shut down opposing viewpoints in order to validate themselves. Meanwhile, libs think they deserve taxpayer money for NPR, and yet think Rush, Beck, and Fox News should be shut down. It all stems from a belief that their view is the "correct" view.

As for Bob Dylan, he was not controversial WHEN he was invited to the White House, last year.
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Male 311
I really think that politics needs to turn back to the economy and seriously put aside the stupid partisan bullpoo for a while, especially on morality issues brought up by special interest groups. Those petty things need to die forever, or at least until our actual problems start showing signs of clearing up.

Everyone always talks about how the government is "for the people", and while this is true, the government kind of has to be for itself when things get dire, otherwise there`s not going to be a government for the people for very long.

(I know that last part sounded kinda grim and dictator-y but I`m sure you can take the underlying point from it)
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Male 383
There are many moderates who also wish Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck off the air. Limbaugh and Beck are exceptionally inciteful, more about drawing people to react extremely. Jon Stewart uses his comedy more to bring people back to a level headed center better for compromise.

"They are completely intolerant of views which contradict their own."

As is how many a far right sees liberal viewpoints. Liberalism, to them, threatens `the soundness of the country` and `human intelligence.`

Your welcome, for the `valuable` counterpoint.

And RETARTEDBEAR, Bob Dylan most likely WAS controversial to at least some people back in the day. You can`t claim no one. You`re only adding to the argument that eventually those who are upset or irked by Common`s invitation will end up on the more forgotten side of history.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Just because there are teachers who are not living lavishly does not mean that there are no teachers who do.[/quote]

Bill O`Reilly`s statement was nonetheless a hasty generalization.

...and much earlier in Obama`s term Fox News was up in arms about the White House inviting a person who "supports the widespread use of abortion as a means of population control". When as a matter of fact the person in question merely discussed the idea.
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Male 437
"Well during the affair involving teacher`s unions in Wisconsin Fox and Bill in particular were said that the teachers were living lavish (Bill says with a capital L) lifestyles."

Just because there are teachers who are not living lavishly does not mean that there are no teachers who do. There really are teachers in Wisconsin with ridiculous benefits.
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Male 10,855
40" by the way refers to the distance between opposing corners.
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Male 10,855
[quote]So, what is it that Fox News has lied about, anyway?[/quote]


Well during the affair involving teacher`s unions in Wisconsin Fox and Bill in particular were said that the teachers were living lavish (Bill says with a capital L) lifestyles. Jon Stewart (shocker) had a Cribs-esque segment featuring Samantha Bee. Long point short if you call a one-bedroom apartment with a couple kids no dish-washer and a 40" CRT TV `lavish` then my family is officially related to Bill Gates.
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Male 955
oh snap
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Male 437
"This makes him the most dangerous man alive, and a threat to the progression of our country, and human intelligence in general."

This is how the far left sees conservative viewpoints. Conservatism, to them, threatens `the progression of the country` and `human intelligence.` This is why they try relentlessly to get people like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck off the air. They are completely intolerant of views which contradict their own.

Thank you, for the valuable insight.
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Male 197
Bill O`Reilly has a frighteningly huge following. One of the most watched shows in America, and his viewers just eat up whatever he feeds them. This makes him the most dangerous man alive, and a threat to the progression of our country, and human intelligence in general. And before you say anything bear, I am forced to watch his show at the gym and it makes my skin crawl and my stomach hurt.
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Male 261
who seriously watches Bill O`Reilly and think what he says is really constructive,He`s a crazy Xenophobic republican, and what he says usualy makes no sense at all
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Male 226
I`ve got much love, it`s a rap term
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Male 2,841
Where`s your god now?
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Male 437
"Bob Dylan was incredibly controversial in his prime, "Blowing in the Wind" is an anti government song"

Bob Dylan is not controversial today. Nobody cares that he was invited to the White House. Common is controversial. People are actually upset about it, whether you are or not.
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Male 63
BOOYA
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Male 214
Free Mumia!
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Female 101
Fantastic.
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Male 80
Fox doesn`t report news, they package Oppinion and make it look like news.
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Male 497
"No, because that is not the only problem with Common. Bill`s failure in this interview is allowing Jon to decide the argument. Common has a history of racially provocative and anti-homosexual lyrics. The guy is, in general, controversial. Why invite him to the White House?"

Bob Dylan was incredibly controversial in his prime, "Blowing in the Wind" is an anti government song.. U2`s "Bullet in the Sky" is a song that condemns the US for unrest in Central America. Both of these two men are, in general, controversial. Why invite them into the White House?
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Male 10,855
[quote]Common has a history of racially provocative and anti-homosexual lyrics.[/quote]

The message can be seen as such if you take it out of context which is what I suspect you`re doing...
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Male 5,413
YES YES YES! Stewart yes!
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Male 411
BOOO YA!....thats a wrap...O`reilly ya d**k
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Male 437
"So our discussion is over.
Jon won the debate."

That is ridiculous. I was responding to your claim that:

"so did Dylan. So O`Reilly is just wrong. Jon is just right.

The one difference O`Reilly cites is a flat out falsehood."

That point is completely invalid, because they are NOT the same, as Jon claimed. The fact that O`Reilly was not up to date on Bob Dylan does not mean that Jon was right.

"If these two are acquitted, will you suddenly change your mind about Common being invited to the whitehouse, retroactively stating it was the right thing to do?"

No, because that is not the only problem with Common. Bill`s failure in this interview is allowing Jon to decide the argument. Common has a history of racially provocative and anti-homosexual lyrics. The guy is, in general, controversial. Why invite him to the White House?
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Male 2,669
Stewart understands tides, which gives him an unfair mental advantage over dumbass O`Reilly.

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Male 4,546
Still on the original topic, this of course assumes your statement of undeniable guilt is true, which it isn`t.

So, the case you`re making on O`Reilly`s behalf, to which Stewart couldn`t possibly respond, isn`t particularly strong. Especially saying as Dylan visited hurricane before his acquittal, not after.

We can continue to look at the enormous chain of hypocrisy, but I think I`ll end with this:
If these two are acquitted, will you suddenly change your mind about Common being invited to the whitehouse, retroactively stating it was the right thing to do?

If not, Jon is correct in that it is *exactly* like the dylan situation.
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Male 4,546
Retarded bear:
"It is because all they know about Fox News is the clips that The Daily Show chops up and presents as "clear Fox News bias." O`Reilly has called Jon out on it a couple times on his show. His defense, of course, is that his show is just comedy, and he doesn`t claim to be honest."

Bullpoo. Bullpoo. Bullpoo. Bullpoo. Bullpoo.

Not his only defense. Not even close, and the only reason you think that is because BILL edited the JON interview to make it seem so. The full one online has this response.

A response which, as always, demands O`Reilly put up or shut up. Full thing available online, not aired.
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Male 4,546
Back to our original point though retarded bear:

[quote]The evidence is overwhelming against them. Jon`s argument is invalid for that reason, even though Bill failed to express it.[/quote]

So our discussion is over.
Jon won the debate.
Bill O Reilly did not make his case.
The title "Jon Stewart owns O`Reilly" is accurate.

That you still agree with the final position is irrelevant to every point and complaint you`ve raised thus far.
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Male 14,331
zzzzzzzzz... Both boring know it alls. When exactly was John Stewart funny or interesting??
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Male 18
lol jon stewart owns bill o`reilly
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Male 270
Fair points
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Male 616
they`re both a$$holes
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Male 871
Bill O silenced oh my word!
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Female 3,001
yey Jon Stewart!
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Male 2,422
"xiquiripat, the fact that Americans are misinformed is not the fault of Fox News. The article you cited admitted that viewers of other networks did not fare much better."

And yet, somehow, Fox consistently fared the worst. Americans may be misinformed as a rule, but watching fox compounds their ignorance through blatant distortion of the facts. A sad statement for a network claiming to be news station and "fair and balanced". It`s not by accident that out of all the terrible news networks out there that people who watch Fox consistently have less idea about what`s going on than people who watch something else. So yes, the fact that Americans are misinformed is the fault of Fox News at least as far as the Americans who watch are concerned. It`s the job of journalists to correct these misconceptions not perpetuate them. Fox (and others I`ll grant you, though fox is the worst) are evidently failing at this and hence can scarcely be considered legitimate journ
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Male 405
O`Reilly needs a slap.
Pwnage is good enough, I `spose.
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Male 43
Exactly right, if it suits Fox they`ll make a huge thing about it but when its the other way round and often worse they`ll hide it and say its fine.
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Male 1,265
Lol, O`Reilly is such a bell-end.
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Male 1,083
yea. stewart won that one.
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Female 956
I`ve always wanted to feck his brains out.
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Male 985
100% Pwnage to the max
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Male 2,344
total ownage!
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Male 667
Wow~ Jon shut him up and shot him down. He`s a very smart guy Jon Stewart.
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Male 12,138
Hey, I`m just a guy, and I call people as I see `em. And I`ve always found Bill O`Reilly to be a twat. Not because of his religious views, not because of his political stance, and dear knows I`ve made the effort to watch his shows (with all the fascination of rubbernecking at a car wreck) many times so surely I can`t be accused of not hearing his message. I think he`s a twat because he appears, to me, to be a twat.

And no, I don`t read "libtard" blogs or huffpo, or any left-wing media. In fact, I can`t remember the last time I read a newspaper. I entirely form my own opinions, despite the attempts at pigeonholing from the rabid conservatives.

Look, I just take people as I find them. And to me, O`Reilly is the biggest dick that I hope I will never meet. I`m actually embarrassed that he claims to be Irish. Even us non-existent f*cking Leprechauns have more to add to society than this dick head.
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Male 164
BOOYAH! wish i could get a picture of Cyborg from Teen Titans up here.
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Male 200
hell yeah!!! jon stewart f**king rocks
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Female 29
I love Jon Stewart. I`ve watched Fox news and they are fear mongers, as is most American news.
I personally admire Jon Stewart because he respects the people who come on his show even when their opinions go against his, and he calls out people for spinning news in an extremest way.
Yes he makes fun of fox most frequently, but he makes fun of other news shows too.
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Male 1,162
Jon owned Bill so bad, Bill actually shut up for a moment to hear him out. lol! Fantastic.
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Male 1,252
didnt really pwn him at all.. But O`reilly`s a "motivated" journalist and tries to lead and force opinion. Funny how so many people are willing to drink the kool aid and take O`Reilly`s opinions as "news" rather that your standard week day morning opinion based talk show such as Oprah or The View.
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Male 2,591
"Fox News has a right to claim they are fair and balanced, just like Ford has the right to claim they make the best trucks in the world."

Ahem, best trucks in the world is a fact, not a claim.

I personally test each F-150 transmission`s electronics to make sure everything is in order before they go out the door. And that makes them the best damn trucks evar because I had my hands on them all. Ok well half of them we do 2 shifts.
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Male 46
ouch!
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Male 66
WEll, My point is that we fought proxy wars. In which innocent people suffered. We contributed to the suffering of innocent people that, while it would have happened regardless, was aided and endorsed by the United States. If you sell a murderer a gun knowing he`s going to kill someone, you`re just as guilty.
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Male 437
"And even if he wasn`t, guess what? He claims to be entertainment, not news, so even if he wasn`t funny he wouldn`t be obligated by any moral or ethical ties to tell the truth."

Whether or not he claims to be fair, several people in this thread admitted to taking him seriously. I know plenty of people who really do get their news from Jon Stewart, and they think that is okay. It isn`t a coincidence that all of these people who watch Jon Stewart have a bizarre, unfounded hatred for Fox News, a channel hardly any of them actually ever watch.

It is because all they know about Fox News is the clips that The Daily Show chops up and presents as "clear Fox News bias." O`Reilly has called Jon out on it a couple times on his show. His defense, of course, is that his show is just comedy, and he doesn`t claim to be honest.
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Male 437
"we also had the ability to vet both Saddam and the Mujahideen"

The Mujahideen were not a problem. They successfully liberated Afghanistan from the Russians. Afterward, warlords filled the power gap, and each city was run by separate groups. Mohammed Omar was a religious zealot who decided Allah wanted him to conquer Afghanistan, and the Taliban was born.

Saddam was always a sketchy mo, but we were so concerned about Iran that we were willing to ignore it. Hindsight is always 20/20, of course.
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Male 3,482
[quote]Jon Stewart routinely uses his comedy program as a platform to attack Republicans and Fox News, and it is hardly ever fair. It`s just funny.[/quote]
That`s mostly because Republicans and Fox News are such easy targets, what with their over-dramatization of virtually everything and their typical reductio ad absurdum, slippery slope style arguments.

On-topic: That`s exactly the point. Have you ever heard Stewart (under any serious pretense) claim that he was fair? Or balanced? No, he`s claimed that he`s funny. And you know what? For the most part, he is.

And even if he wasn`t, guess what? He claims to be entertainment, not news, so even if he wasn`t funny he wouldn`t be obligated by any moral or ethical ties to tell the truth.

Truth be told, I would love to look up and continue this argument with particular incidents of Fox`s bullsh*t, but it`s past midnight and I have to wake up early. I`ll come back tomorrow... Later today? Whatever.
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Male 437
As long as we are posting irrelevant pictures...









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Male 66
Yes, that`s true. However, we also had the ability to vet both Saddam and the Mujahideen, find out exactly who they were, and be circumspect about who we were helping, which we failed to do. We fought proxy wars with little to no consideration what that would do the the people in the warzones.
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Male 437
Negativitron, your first picture is of Reagan meeting with the Mujahideen. They were the ones we were helping to fight Russia. At that time, the communists were our enemy, and we saw the Mujahideen as they saw themselves, freedom fighters. The Taliban was organized by an ex-Mujahideen religious zealot, who gathered an army and conquered every city in Afghanistan after Russia left.

The second picture is of Rumsfeld meeting with Saddam during the Iran-Iraq war. We had great interest in the conflict, and this is prior to Saddam`s atrocities.
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Male 437
"..to promote his party line agenda."

No, to get the President to answer as many questions as possible. People watch to see how he answers the questions posed, not to hear a 15 minute speech.

"And their first lie? That they even ARE a "news outlet."

So, what is it that Fox News has lied about, anyway? No one ever seems to present examples of all these lies that they tell.

"Jon Stewart doesn`t claim to be part of a "fair and balanced" news outlet."

Fox News has a right to claim they are fair and balanced, just like Ford has the right to claim they make the best trucks in the world. It is subjective. I happen to think that Fox News is generally pretty fair, and Ford makes crappy trucks.

Jon Stewart routinely uses his comedy program as a platform to attack Republicans and Fox News, and it is hardly ever fair. It`s just funny.
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Male 66
@BRKNVLTR

go ahead, post those pictures of Obama consorting with terrorists.
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Male 66
Donald Rumsfeld ( you know,Bush`s Sec. of Defense?) with Saddam Hussein

Saddam and Rummy
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Male 12
BOOYAH!!
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Male 377
@Negativitron - Should I post pics of Obama kissing some sheiks ring, cow towing to the Chinese, meeting Chavez and other 3rd world dirt bags.. Boy.. Obama`s done nothing but meet with terrorists and dictators...weird.
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Male 3,482
[quote]Those two things are one in the same.[/quote]
No, they aren`t.

[quote]The Daily Show routinely takes clips and chops them up to be misleading.[/quote]
The point you`re missing here:

Jon Stewart doesn`t claim to be part of a "fair and balanced" news outlet. His show is on a channel called "Comedy Central" for f*ck`s sake.

His job, pure and simple, stated and clear, is comedy. To make things funny. His purpose in chopping up clips? To make comedy out of them.

He present the facts as a lead up to a joke. When he chops up the clips, it`s because his version is better for the punchline. And he makes that pretty obvious. People who watch Jon Stewart seriously as a news outlet are stupid. But at least he doesn`t CLAIM to be news.

Saying Stewart does it as part of some "agenda" is like saying Auto-Tune the News has an agenda because they make music videos about X politician more than Y.
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Female 235
And that`s a wrap!
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Male 3,431
"He has the most popular cable news program, and he has to manage the time he has effectively..."

...to promote his party line agenda.

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Female 3,562
Oh John, when he`s right he`s SOOOO good at being right. That was beautiful, a masterpiece of rhetoric.
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Male 3,482
[quote]You mean, the right to free speech? Total bs loophole, man.[/quote]
No, the apparent right of a "press" outlet to claim false information as facts, based on the "freedom of press."

And their first lie? That they even ARE a "news outlet."

Since they`re actually an "entertainment outlet" (in their own words), they don`t HAVE to tell the truth, because they just have to entertain people and keep money in their investors pockets.

I love how the first amendment has gone from the right to criticize the government without being hanged in the streets, to the right to outright lie to and about people in order to gain publicity, ratings, and money.

I`d say that`s a bullsh*t loophole. And I`d say the Founding Fathers would be ashamed.
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Male 564
Not sure if it was posted in the comments yet or not, but part two is aqui
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Male 151
Lol, O`Reilly`s face for the last minute or so is just priceless.
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Male 66
Oh yeah, here`s video as well

Reagan and Mujahadeen
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Male 66
You`re right, Retardedbear, who the President invites to the White House is relevant to Americans.


Case Closed.
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Male 5,189
I love that show!
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Male 758
I love you John Stewart.
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Male 437
"he did that to the President as well.... Owning the premier cable news show doesn`t give you quite that much authority."

If you have seen the President speak, you know that he is very good at bloviating for minutes at a time. Bill had only 15 minutes to get responses to a myriad of questions. If he had not interrupted, Obama could have easily kept it down to 2 or 3 questions.

"The Whitehouse is their private residence.
I don`t think it`s my business who they invite."

The people living in the White House are the first family. They represent America and its citizens. We put them in office so they can show the rest of the world our values and what America stands for.

Who they invite to their house is absolutely relevant to Americans.
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Female 331
Love me some Jon Stewart. "Booy-a! And that is a rap-phrase."
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Male 591
[quote]It is sad that comedy shows are more truthful than the news programs.[/quote]
You took the words right out of my mouth.
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Male 192
Love it! It is sad that comedy shows are more truthful than the news programs.
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Male 379
@RETARDEDBEAR
You clearly do not watch his show from a non-partial standpoint. Bill O`Reilly is an enemy to true american freedom. Period.
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Female 1,743
@RETARDEDBEAR

I was being facetious.
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Male 66
Fox News and its parent company (News Corp) are owned by an Australian, Rupert Murdoch- that is, a person who has absolutely no real, lasting stake in the welfare of the American people, or what they think.I believe anyone who takes his news outlets at face value should asses why they do so, in a hurry.
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Male 675
It certainly raises a lot of questions about opinionated shows today. I don`t think that O`Reilly did anything wrong, except forget to do his research and then go gun-ho when he didn`t have his facts straight. Jon Stewart, on the other hand, has obviously done his research and it shows. On The Daily show I have never seen much comedy on the news side of the show, as the world today when it comes to light as The Daily Show puts it all together, it becomes rather humorous. And its not the first time in history that any of this has happened, but history is being tainted every day. Look at the Texas Board of Education. Power should be under constant scrutiny, which it is not, and that has been the problem throughout the past. When you go to vote, especially for board of education, if you don`t know who the person is, don`t vote. You`re not going to be crucified for an unfinished ballot, and if you are, then don`t vote at all. Don`t make the call if you have none of the facts.
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Male 39,882

The Whitehouse is their private residence.
I don`t think it`s my business who they invite.

I`d hate to see what you guys would write about some of the freak over at my place.

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Male 161
I have said it before and I will say it again, there is one difference between Democrats and Republicans, Democrats blow, and Republicans suck. And once again I am voting for myself, since I am the only one without a party line to tow.
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Male 260
@RETARDEDBEAR
I`d normally agree with you, and there`s certainly a lot of merit to that position, but he did that to the President as well.... Owning the premier cable news show doesn`t give you quite that much authority.
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Male 437
"because of the way he treats people, he shoots them down the minute they disagree with him and refuses to listen to what anyone else has to say, and because of this he will never know anything other than what he wants to know (which usually is a biased version of a rumor)"

You clearly do not actually watch his show. Regardless of who he is interviewing, Bill does not allow his guest to take command of the interview. Nearly every time O`Reilly interrupts somebody, it is because they are straying off the topic in order to get out their pre-rehearsed talking points. He has the most popular cable news program, and he has to manage the time he has effectively.
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Male 188
PWND
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Female 146
Bill O`Reilly is a complete douche bag and a terrible person....not because of his views but because of the way he treats people, he shoots them down the minute they disagree with him and refuses to listen to what anyone else has to say, and because of this he will never know anything other than what he wants to know (which usually is a biased version of a rumor).....the minute people like him gain control of this country I`m getting out of here
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Male 437
"some bullsh*t loophole they came up with in the First Amendment."

You mean, the right to free speech? Total bs loophole, man.
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Male 437
"John Stewart and Stephen Colbert have no reason to mis-represent the facts, their job is simply to make comedy out of them."

Those two things are one in the same. The Daily Show routinely takes clips and chops them up to be misleading.

"And Stewart OWNED him."

Based on this video, it looks like it, but Stewart is absolutely wrong. He claims that Bob Dylan and Common are exactly the same. The fact is, Bob Dylan wrote a song about a guy who`s conviction was ACTUALLY overturned. Common supports cop killers who have overwhelming evidence against them, and who are still in jail. They are clearly not the same.
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Male 1,313
The right is wrong
The left is wrong
The middle is being misguided by both
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Male 3,482
John Stewart and Stephen Colbert have no reason to mis-represent the facts, their job is simply to make comedy out of them.

Fox "News," on the other hand, while claiming to be "fair and balanced," has gone to court for it`s right to mis-inform the public based on some bullsh*t loophole they came up with in the First Amendment.

Plenty of other news stations do it too, but they`re BS too. They aren`t news, they`re glorified tabloids with high profile opinions.

The only "news" presented without a bias anymore is weather and traffic, and those might be tainted too, honestly...

I think THAT`S the reason people take the Daily Show and Colbert Report more seriously than a lot of news outlets anymore.

And Stewart OWNED him. It`s moments like this I almost wish I still watched TV.
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Male 17
Nicely done, Jon Stewart.
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Female 131
I love love love love watching stewart and o`reilly together.
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Male 437
xiquiripat, the fact that Americans are misinformed is not the fault of Fox News. The article you cited admitted that viewers of other networks did not fare much better.

People in general like to make up facts to support their belief system, whether they watch CNN or Fox News. My television is on Fox News all day, every day, and I am not ashamed to say it. Most of the programming is actually legitimate news. The most watched shows are opinion programs like Hannity, and everything Hannity says, you have to take with a grain of salt. A lot of conservatives do not, and they can pretty easily make fools of themselves by attempting to replicate his positions without actually knowing the facts.
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Male 3,477
To quote someone brighter than myself, " I go to Comedy Central for my news and Fox News for my comedy." And I can`t get in the White House. Hell, I just wanna tell a couple of dirty jokes.
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Male 2,422
Considering that people who watch fox news are consistently less knowledgeable about current events than people who watch Stewart or anything else really shows the sad state of fox "news"



Here

And Here
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Male 4
RETARDEDBEAR, nubbins was not saying that The Daily Show and The Colbert Report were legitimate sources of information. She was saying that Fox News has become so ridiculously that even two comedic shows can be taken far more seriously.

And this belief is not disturbing if it`s well-founded. And personally, I believe it is.
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Male 7,830
retardedbear, thanks for the headsup, im watching now.

but, when i see o`reilly in interviews, he more often starts interrupting the guest whenever they say something he doesnt agree with. like while stewart kept jabbing in his facts and views, o`reilly tried to stop him over an over again. but, these two do have a mutual respect, so he didnt f*ck with him as much as he does other guests.
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Male 528
o`reilly should stop "interviewing" people who know more than him
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Male 840
WeePee, Stewart never claims to be a news show. He always points out that he is just a comedy show. It just so happens that many people get their news from the Daily Show because he covers current topics and so entertaining.

If you have an opinion either way, you can vote as to who won this debate on billorilley.com
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Male 437
"This is why I take The Daily Show and The Colbert Report more seriously than Fox News."

The fact that you think comedy programs are a more reliable source of information than the most popular cable news network is disturbing. The liberal powers that be have really done a good job of tricking their flock into ignoring information that comes from an `undesirable` source.

Undesirable, because it presents views which are contrary to the liberal line of thought, not because it is illegitimate.
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Male 612
"Bill O` Reilly is such a tool."

and jon steward is so much better? hes a comedian who thinks he is a legitimate journalist. his best joke is making stupid liberals actually consider his show "news"
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Female 1,743
This is why I take The Daily Show and The Colbert Report more seriously than Fox News.
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Female 494
Hahahaha! This is awesome!
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Male 437
By the way, tune into Fox News right now to see part 2 of Stewart vs. O`Reilly.
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Male 437
"im surprised o`reilly actually let him get a point out without continuously interrupting him. i mean, he tried, but i know he could have put in more work to make sure stewart didnt get a point out."

O`Reilly interrupts his guests when they try to take command. People ignore his question and try to push out their talking points, so he interrupts them and forces them back on topic. Jon was respectful, so O`Reilly had no need to interrupt.
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Male 7,830
im surprised o`reilly actually let him get a point out without continuously interrupting him. i mean, he tried, but i know he could have put in more work to make sure stewart didnt get a point out.
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Male 437
From the article you cited, Baal:

"It took eight more years before a federal district court judge in Newark, N.J., finally overturned Carter`s conviction, insisting, `The extensive record clearly demonstrates that the petitioners` convictions were predicated upon an appeal to racism rather than reason, and concealment rather than disclosure.`"
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Male 437
"Except so did Dylan. So O`Reilly is just wrong. Jon is just right."

Common is not Bob Dylan. Assata Shakur and Mumia Abu Jamal are not Rubin Carter.

Common supports Shakur because he supports her association with the Black Panthers, Black Liberation Army, etc. Bob Dylan wrote about Rubin Carter because he was actually falsely convicted. There is no evidence that Shakur or Jamal were innocent, instead it is quite the opposite. The evidence is overwhelming against them. Jon`s argument is invalid for that reason, even though Bill failed to express it.
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Male 8
i wanna see more of this
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Male 4,546
Retarded bear:
Here`s the second part. Bill O Reilly doesn`t do much better.

He says the difference is "Common VISITED, WENT TO SEE..."

Except so did Dylan. So O`Reilly is just wrong. Jon is just right.

The one difference O`Reilly cites is a flat out falsehood. Excluding it, if anything, helps O`Reilly`s case.
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Female 1,682
Bill O` Reilly is such a tool.
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Female 188
My love for Jon Stewart knows no bounds. <3
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Male 1,744
Wait wait wait just a minute....Jon Stewart doesn`t like Fox News!!?? ZOMG why didn`t anyone tell me!!!!!
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Male 559
oreailly is a f*ucking joke
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Male 546
Jon effin` Stewart

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Male 1,360
and for those of you who were wondering there IS a part 2... Clicky-click
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Male 1,360
retarded bear is retarded, doesn not understand the meaning of "to be fair"
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Male 2,376
bill would eat rat poo if he got paid to do it
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Male 483
Good. Lord.

I have tears in my eyes, literally. That made me so happy.
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Male 2,868
"How is that at all fair?" Well, listen to the man speak.
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Male 216
I love Jon Stewart. And I very much dislike O`Reilly. I agree with the points made by Jon here as well. On a different note, I do not like Common. He has said many things that anger me. Such as, in an interview, (and I`m paraphrasing here) that he has had sex with white women, but does not support interracial relationships.
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Male 1,461
God I love Jon Stewart.
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Male 2,868
@RETARDEDBEAR- I`d like to hear what O`Reilly had to say too. He just kept digging himself deeper and deeper throughout the clip- I want to see him hit bedrock.
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Male 203
O`Reilly seems to always set himself up to fail
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Female 19
ownd
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Male 25,416
Wow, Jon is an educated man
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Male 1,122
They cut too soon. They needed to show Bill for a few seconds after because he is stupefied for a few seconds. In the second half O` Reilly does come back at John with, "its different with Commons than those other artists because Common actually visited the cop killer!" whilst ignoring John`s continuous rhetoric saying that Commons thinks she is wrongly convicted so why wouldn`t he visit her.
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Male 437
"To be fair though, it`s not that hard to make Bill O`Reilly`s opinions look stupid- he does a pretty good job of that on his own."

How is that at all fair?
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Male 2,868
To be fair though, it`s not that hard to make Bill O`Reilly`s opinions look stupid- he does a pretty good job of that on his own.
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Male 1,931
BAM!
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Male 181
Socratic Method vs. Sophistry:

Round 1

FIGHT!
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Male 2,868
Boooyaah! Pwned.
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Male 437
I like how someone deleted the first post, with an objective title, so they could post the one labelled "Jon Stewart Owns Bill O`Reilly."

I also like how the interview was cut off, so it looks like Jon Stewart`s argument went unrefuted. Nice.
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Male 142
Damn...
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Male 1,312
BOOM headshot! Well done Mr. Stewart.
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Male 156
Fatality!
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Male 2,033
Skadoosh!
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Male 589
word. (thats a rap term)
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Male 1,793
Jon can hold his own against any one....
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Male 541
Link: Jon Stewart Owns Bill O`Reilly On His Own Show [Rate Link] - Stewart calls out Fox News for their `selective outrage` over Common`s White House visit.
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