I`m a Climate Scientist (NSFW)

Submitted by: lucidexistan 5 years ago in Science

Beastie boys style!
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Female 3,001
those who do believe in climate change:
stop trying to persuade those who don`t believe in it that its real over the internet, and do something about it instead.

those who don`t believe it:
well you can do what you like i guess...
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Male 934
Hey, they`re scientists, so they must be right, right? Meteorologists can`t even predict tomorrow`s weather or temperature with the accuracy that many climatologists are trying to claim.

Anthropogenic global warming is a theory, and unlike gravity, has very little substantial data to back it up. While carbon dioxide levels are undoubtedly higher and the temperature has risen, so have other factors such as solar intensity. It also seems interesting that these "climate scientists" seem committed to attributing global warming to CO2 but not on H2O which is a much more effective greenhouse gas and increases in our atmosphere as temperature increases which in theory would be a positive feedback cycle.

Bottom line: I think most people have a tendency to overreact when it comes to a hot button issue like this. Obviously we`re going to have some effect on our own climate, however the likelihood of it having disastrously unmanageable results is not great.
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Male 12,138
I had a whole thing written, but re-reading it, it was mean, so I didn`t post it. Crakr, good night, and I thank my lucky stars the world isn`t made up of people like you.

See you in Church, buddy.
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Male 17,512
davymid: Science can no more predict future climate anymore than earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, or what I`ll eat for lunch tomorrow.

Statistical probabilities maybe, but it`s still chance. I don`t see people fleeing San Francisco even though the probability of another 1906 size quake is high.

So keep on scaremongering, The more you, and others like you do, the bigger the downfall in credibility later.

Any scientific minded person should be a skeptic of fear mongering, after all it`s what you accuse religion of doing all the time.
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Male 12,138
Crakrjak, your own dude, in your own link, admits that he`s nothing more than "retired engineer with access to the Internet". Yes, he`s apparently "published", in newspapers, best I can tell that is all. Very different from peer-reviewed scientific journals. The paper that he is in turn citing (you know, the actual peer-reviewed scientific one) makes no such claims of cooling on climatological scale. Also, your retiree non-scientist layman bleats about being correct on a cold October. Please, for the love of all that is holy, go look up the difference between weather and climate.

[quote]Try going to Las Vegas and predicting what a roulette wheel will do based on it`s past results then. [/quote]
With all due respect, if that`s seriously your understanding of what science is, then I`m done holding your hand. You`re over 40 dude. You`re meant to know this sh*t by now.

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Male 17,512
madest: You are assuming that there are no conservative climatologists ?

Then I guess the peer-reviewed scientists, That produced this report, must be heretics, eh ?
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Male 7,378
It`s not about me. But I do know that no conservative is smarter than a climate scientist.
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Male 17,512
madest: Overlords ? Doing someone`s bidding ? Wow, you really are wearing a tinfoil hat aren`t you ?

I guess you can`t reconcile how a conservative can be smarter than you are can you ? I should take that as a compliment.

That said, My thoughts are my own and no one tells me what to think.

However on many occasions now I`ve been able to trace down the source(s) of your anti-conservative arguments to discover their inherent flaws and misconceptions.
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Male 7,378
It`s bullcrap CJ, You quote science on occasion like you`re part Einstein. But one of your overlords tells you what to think then it`s out the FN window and you`re on your knees doing their bidding. Impossible to have a meaningful conversation with someone who only uses facts when it fits suits their narrative.
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Male 17,512
danthew: I dispute the theory because scientists contradict themselves and have their own disputes over the theory themselves.
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Male 17,512
madest: Assume all that about me from a cartoon made by a blogger eh ?

You assume too much, From far too little information.
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Male 2,121
@CrakrJak Do you deny global warming in general, or that it is man made?
Also, about evolution, I assume that you deny evolution is responsible for the vast number of different species we see today, rather than denying the existence of evolution all together. Because ignoring fossil records and stuff, evolution can be seen happening in our lifetimes.
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Male 2,121
Weather is not climate.

It doesn`t matter if global warming is caused by humans, or even if it is real. The fact is we`re rapidly running out of oil anyway. We have to move into low-carbon technologies simply because otherwise the power goes off.

IMO climate change is real and man-made. We`ve dug up lots of carbon that was otherwise stuck deep underground. It had to go somewhere.

There are other ways that we have warmed the planet. Clouds trap heat. It was found recently that those thin wispy trails left by planes stick around for longer than we realised and actually make up a shocking proportion of cirrus clouds.

It`s is possible that most global warming is simply caused by the Earth still coming out of the most recent ice age. But the laws of thermodynamics mean that humans MUST be contributing in some way. This is an undeniable elementary truth set deep within the basic laws of physics.

Trust me, I`m a physicist.
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Male 15
Everyone saying climate change is not `man-made` is correct to an extent. However, climate change is massively accelerated by anthropological factors. Thus, we need to reduce our global carbon footprint.
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Male 7,378
Yeah Al Gore`s involved in environmentalism so therefore it must be false. I`m gonna rise above it all and mock the science I know nothing about and just believe what my party wants me to believe. They`re trustworthy smart people who aren`t owned by big oil. That`s the smart move.
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Male 17,512
symmachus: Try going to Las Vegas and predicting what a roulette wheel will do based on it`s past results then.

That`s right, you won`t be able to. You might get lucky once in awhile, but the house always has the edge. Patterns can always be seen in chaos, if you don`t believe me explore the Mandelbrot set awhile. That doesn`t mean those patterns are always predictable (within a few years or decades) and it certainly doesn`t mean mankind has an ounce of influence over them on a global scale.
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Male 749
@jimbro: [quote] Its the AIR we BREATHE and the WATER we DRINK. it really is in OUR OWN BEST INTERESTS not to pollute it.[/quote]

Crimeny! Why do people assume that opponents of the climate change fad are against ALL environmental controls? I`m in favor of anti-pollution laws, but I`m not in favor of draconian measures that will kill the economy and cause untold human costs and misery. I also find it silly to consider CO2 "pollution"
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Male 17,512
LazyMe: [quote]maybe we could save time by recording the appropriate counters and storing them somewhere?[/quote]

The problem with that is, not all the scientists even agree on what `counter-argument` is best, Hell they argue and counter-argue with themselves over all the details. New evidence points one direction, other evidence points in another direction.

About the only thing they agree on consistently is they are all mostly Atheists and that want to get rid of what they believe is `superstitious` religion. Sorry, but disproving religion is not a valid job or goal of science, In fact it just make scientists look like dicks.
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Male 248
Wow, the global warming sensation is still being pushed this heavily? This has gotta be the longest running bullpoo propaganda topic ever. I would have thought it would have died out and people moved on to something new to bitch about a long time ago.

Note to global warming sensationalists: the crazy numbers and data you (and Al Gore) like to quote so often, WERE MANIPULATED, by these "Climate Scientists" that you and this video are praising.
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Male 390
Carbon in the atmosphere rises, man dies off, earth returns to normal. What`s the problem?

P.S. Die-off`s have happened many times before, this wouldn`t be the first, and the other ones had nothing to do with the alleged "man-made" climate change. The earth is cycling, it`s a natural process.
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Male 183
ok...so after 3 pages of watching you guys arguing about this please permit me to say: Its the AIR we BREATHE and the WATER we DRINK. it really is in OUR OWN BEST INTERESTS not to pollute it. it doesn`t matter what you believe about climate change. if we continue to pollute our own water supply and air supply bad things WILL happen. to us.
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Male 437
I just went back and read a few comments, and boy are some of you guys condescending. I know you all think you are right, but that isn`t an excuse to disrespect others.
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Male 437
Oh yes, this will make me take them seriously. A true hallmark of professionalism is when they make a rap about how they are "scientists", so that means they`re right. Back in the day, scientists had to back up what they said with... you know... science.
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Male 3,061
8===D~~~this video
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Male 2,552
Yes, climate change is real. Yes, it happened before humans used oil. Yes, it even happened before humans became self-aware. Wow--funny how that climate change is cyclical.
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Male 936
horrible beastie boys rip off; however, climate change IS real. it is NOT man made.
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Male 3,475
Float away mother DRATTER Fa gg ots!
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Male 7,378
@symmachus, Welcome aboard!
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Male 280
Aaaaw, look at that CrakrJak.
Isn`t he precious.
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Male 25,416
Now thats how the Aussies do it, but if we are paying them so much money to do studies, how come they have the time to do such an awesome job at making a video with this much detail and that much involvement from so many scientists.
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Male 133
For what it`s worth Symmachus, you made my day.
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Female 795
Float away Muthafudgeaaaaaaaaaaa
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Male 24
"The only thing environmental pressures do, historically, is make species extinct."

Sigh (again). I guess as an evil academic, the mere suggestion of bipedalism amongst the great apes during the change from forest to savannah due to...let`s all say it together...environmental pressures...Ah, f*** it.

Yes, CrakrJak, us trained academics are all evil super geniuses working hard to keep down the common man. Y`know, I would never argue that I knew more than a fireman when a house is burning down...Yet, here we are having this parroting `discussion`.
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Male 24
"The past can`t tell you the timing or details of the future..."

[Pulls out highchair and bib] Sit here CrakrJak. Good man. I`m going to explain this slowly. Scientists of all sorts, even including social scientists (like me) will look at thingies called `events` in the past to find common occurrences. We use these patterns to PREDICT what might occur in the future. No, it`s not reading the future, but it`s a whole lot more informed than guessing the weather for the next few days from a former striper-turned meteorologist from Guadalajara.
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Male 24
More information out in regards to polar bears:
"The evidence indicates that longer ice-free periods over the continental shelf results in lower foraging success, nutritional stress, lower reproductive success, less body mass of cubs, fewer yearlings observed per female, and even starvation and cannibalism. In years when rapid melting of sea ice combined with severe storms, polar bears were observed drowning in the southern Beaufort Sea."
Recently in the news...Cannibalism amongst polar bears have been noticed:
"However, Dr. Ian Stirling, research scientist emeritus with the Canadian Wildlife Service, said the number of cannibalism incidents among polar bears is a result of warmer global temperatures. He said all species of bears experience cannibalism, but rates among polar bears have increased due to environmental changes."
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Male 24
"Btw, Where are all those hurricanes Al Gore and other climatologists predicted since Katrina?"

Sigh... [Pulls out the Glen Beck blackboard and writes] SEVERITY OF THE STORMS.
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Male 24
"Meteorologists know more about weather trends than climatologists do."

Are you for F***ING real? Meteorologists also know a lot more about flapping their love bumps about and using the casting couch to get a cushier anchor position.
Hola calor!

Oh mah gawd! Intelligent academics actually are skilled in their area of study!
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Male 10,440
I`ve thought of a convenient solution for our little problem... if creationists and climate deniers and other wackjobs keep spouting the same useless crap over and over again, maybe we could save time by recording the appropriate counters and storing them somewhere? Then we can pull them out quickly when needed. Faster than typing them out for sure... The whole system could be automated to interpret the most common arguments and instantly post the refutation.

We wouldn`t have to do anything. ;)

Ahh. I`m thinking like an engineer again. This one will stay on the drawing board as an emergency measure...
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Male 10,440
[quote] The past can`t tell you the timing or details of the future [/quote]
I spy with my little eye a complete idiot and a moderator who`s lost his patience.

Or maybe he hasn`t?

Either way, I`m glad he`s here, otherwise I`d feel the need to address this sort of crap.

Perhaps we can start with something small...

[quote] Next time you get stopped by the police for speeding try that excuse and see how far that gets you [/quote]
I believe he was referring to two different species.
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Male 626
Climate change is natural. The earth goes through cycles, Ice Age -> Hot -> Ice Age. So there isn`t much we can do about it. Buy an air conditioner and live on a hill. Problem solved.
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Male 17,512
Davy: [quote]Both can happen, simultaneously.[/quote]

Yeah, Right. Next time you get stopped by the police for speeding try that excuse and see how far that gets you. The only thing environmental pressures do, historically, is make species extinct. It has never been seen that any animal, plant, or insect has changed species (Meaning they can`t produce viable offspring from the species they came from) since mankind has been on here on Earth. Animals have adapted, Yes. Changed species, No.
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Male 12,138
[quote]davymid: Please tell me Davy, in your opinion, does evolution happen slowly or rapidly ? Yes, This is a `gotcha` question.[/quote]
No, no it`s not. It depends on environmental pressures. Both can happen, simultaneously.

Friend, with all due respect, you have no idea what the f*ck you`re talking about when it comes to science. Come back to me when you have some education. I`m done here, time for bed.
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Male 875
loud and incredibly annoying
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Male 17,512
davymid: Please tell me Davy, in your opinion, does evolution happen slowly or rapidly ?

Yes, This is a `gotcha` question. Because there are demonstrable evidence that it supposedly has done both and in the case of some animals, like the horseshoe crab, it has not happened at all in the last 400 million years.

`The glove doesn`t fit` no matter how you answer and not you, or any other paleontologist, can satisfactorily explain that divergence from logic and reason about evolutionary theory.
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Male 17,512
davymid: Your counter-analogy fails because geologists study the past, just as climatologists do, The past can`t tell you the timing or details of the future anymore than a paleontologist can predict what human society will look like in 100 years.
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Male 12,138
Your Conservative Christian indoctrination/upbringing has convinced you that, e.g., there`s no such thing as Evolution, it`s a lie and simply doesn`t happen. A scientific lie. At risk of appearing immodest (and I know anyone can say any old sh*t on the internet, but this is actually true), I have a PhD in Earth Science, am a published author in 15 peer-reviewed scientific journals, and work as a professional scientist.

Crakr, I guess people will make up their own minds on our contradictary views. You sincerely, with a straight face, don`t even believe in demonstrable scientific facts such as Evolution. For my part, forgive me for not taking you very seriously on other matters of science.
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Male 12,138
To give a counter-analogy which I think has some value, who`s word would you believe on the age of the planet? On one hand you have geologists (like me). On the other you have soil scientists. Both are very valid sciences and have something to contribute to the conversation, but one is talking superficial, short-term, how the crops are going to turn out this year, and the other is talking billions of years of Earth History.

Look, I know how desperately you would like Climate Change to be a lie, I would too. It sucks deeply.

Dude, with respect, you have no scientific background or training, best I can tell. Also easy to tell that you have no children (correct me if I`m wrong, but it`s easy to spout when you have no skin in the game). I on the other hand have a 5-year old daughter, who I would dearly like to experience the same wonders I did as a kid.
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Male 12,138
[quote]Meteorologists know more about weather trends than climatologists do. [/quote]

That`s true. They do. For the next 5 days or so. Citing TV weathermen (sorry, Meteorologists) as having more expertise on Climate than Climatologists is absolute bunk. Clue`s kinda in the name.

Climatologists study global climate, Meteorologists tell us whether or not it`s going to rain on saturday. First off, go look up the difference between "weather" and "climate". I assure you, they are very different things.
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Male 17,512
madest: So called `Extreme weather` happens occasionally, It has nothing to do with `global warming`, Seriously madest your beginning to sound as alarmist as Mr. Camping.


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Male 61
True Greatness, this.
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Male 17,512
PBSG Link to the same 20,000 - 25,000 estimate It`s in the next to last paragraph. Of course they do try to spin it to say the polar bear is at risk, but they contradict themselves and state that it`s still safe for the population for Native Inuit people to hunt them. The 20,000 - 25,000 population number is the same as they predicted 4 years ago and that is a fact.
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Male 14,832
I`m a climate agnostic. I have no idea whether it`ll blow over or we`re heading for an inevitable TEOTWAWKI. In other words, I still drive my car but built my house on a hill.
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Male 181
CrakrJak: "Climatologists get funded by the governement, so if there was no problem there would be no funding (aka no paycheck for the climatologists)."

Not only are you denying climate change, you are denying wasteful research grants in Washington. Are you sure you want to take that position? As a conservative, you seem to have argued yourself into a corner...
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Male 198
Oh shiiiit. Madest laid the smack down on CJ!
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Male 7,378
You`re wrong CJ. Universities offer courses in Climate science not the government. Where do you live? Take a look at the exteme weather the midwest has seen the last couple weeks. Look at the record flooding that happened in Tennessee, That`s not enough for you? OK. You`re a denier with no proof other than ludicrous analogies. By your logic a guy that works as an Air Traffic Controller should know how to fly a plane. Feel free to take that ride.
You even quoted the respected Polar Bear Specialist Group? Too bad you got their facts wrong too. Their most recent survey results. Do you think you owe me an apology?
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Male 11,740
That`s 2 minutes I`ll never get back. Fail.
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Female 4,359
years of boredom has driven them to this.
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Male 147
Why is it that whenever nutjobs deny science they need a conspiracy theory to go with it?
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Male 683
@madest

Depends on the school. I`m majoring in meteorology and just took a climatology class this last semester. :p
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Male 17,512
madest: Meteorologists know more about weather trends than climatologists do.

Climatologists get funded by the governement, so if there was no problem there would be no funding (aka no paycheck for the climatologists).

Meteorologists get paid by private companies, such as TV news, and their pay is tied to performance not theorizing a problem.

Btw, Where are all those hurricanes Al Gore and other climatologists predicted since Katrina ?
Also the polar bear population is just fine. The Polar Bear Specialist Group has recently said, “The total number of polar bears is still thought to be between 20,000 and 25,000”, Which the same number they reported 4 years ago.
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Male 56
I think that the worst thing for the climate change movement is having Al Gore as their unofficial leader. To get the message out, they need someone who isn`t polarizing or political. This isn`t an "us against them" argument that they`ve turned it into. It`s an "Us" issue. This is dead serious and it shouldn`t be politicized.
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Male 4,807

Meh.. Throw around some carbon credits, that should fix the "problem".....

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Male 1,540
@CrakrJak
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPNWRti8CfY
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Male 7,378
CJ, Meteorologists are not required to take a course in climate change, this is not part of the NOAA/NWS [National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration/National Weather Service] certification requirements, so university programs don’t require the course. So as this video points out, the point you`re trying to make with Davy`s apology is moot. Argue with logic not talking points. A dog catcher knows as much about climate change as a meteorologist does.
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Female 474
yes!! as an aspiring Paleoclimatologist, this is my new anthem! :DDD
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Male 17,512
Btw, Davy you never apologized to me for proving that 50% of meteorologists do not believe in global warming.
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Male 38,479

"float away mother dratuuuuuuuuuuh!"

lol
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Male 1,440
A little bit repetitive, but if these people were scientists maybe they should have hired people to direct/write a better video/lyrics.


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Male 37,774
ZZZZzzzzz GUZ! nup-nup-nup...
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Male 12,138
In b4 flame war...
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Male 2,121
Ergh. So blatantly pandering to try and get a climate change vid to go viral. I hate "viral marketing".
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Male 1,587
haha this is awesome!
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Male 59
Link: I`m a Climate Scientist (NSFW) [Rate Link] - Beastie boys style!
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