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43 Responses to Fight The Government`s War On Cameras!

  1. Profile photo of hookskat
    hookskat Female 18-29
    7 posts
    May 26, 2011 at 11:09 am
    Link: Fight The Government`s War On Cameras! - Police crackdowns on citizens videotaping cops need to stop. If you own a camera, you should really check this out.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 10:20 am
    Interesting. I agree with the video. That`s all there is to it.

    If you`re in a public place, you have the right to record video. It`s as simple as that.

    Should the police officer`s consent be necessary? If in a public place, no, of course not.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10441 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 10:21 am
    Also, looks like we`ve had a handful of half-decent posts recently. Keep that up and you won`t suck so much IAB.
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 10:27 am
    we hear comments from legislators that if you have nothing to fear why are you worried about cctv but then the reverse is true if a police officer is doing their job properly why should they fear scrutiny from the public?
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    tanyacobain Female 18-29
    67 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 10:42 am
    fight the new world order :)
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    Norsak Male 18-29
    161 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 11:06 am
    Laws regarding photography are pretty interesting. There`s actually no "right to privacy" in the Constitution, and you can film anyone or anything (with a few exceptions) if you`re in the public eye.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32813 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 11:06 am
    Excellent! Educate yourself and don`t get pushed around by some Nazi in a uniform!
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    DesertWolf Male 30-39
    63 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 11:13 am
    OK, I`m of two minds on this one...
    I would like to believe that officers should have no fear of being video taped, if they are doing their job correctly and by the law. However, how would you react to someone filming your every move while you performed your job? Would you be worried about the possibility that the person filming you (taking for granted they are hostile to you or your profession) would take sections of the film out of context?
    I do agree that people should be able to film in public areas, but on federal property, it gets dicey for me...
    There was a spot in the video where a "journalist" (I use " " because I have no idea who was shotting the video) was filming what appeared to be an accident scene. I wonder how you would feel knowing that someone (whose intentions you were not aware of) was filming yourself or someone you love while they were injured, in great pain or possibly dieing...
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    May 28, 2011 at 11:14 am
    Where`s CuteThingsExploding when you need them?
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    May 28, 2011 at 11:14 am
    Oops, wrong thread. OTOH, maybe not...
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2011 at 11:27 am
    These days, when anybody can publish a blog, and anybody can post a YouTube video, we need to extend freedom of the press to EVERYBODY. Cops should NOT have a right to privacy when they`re doing their job in public. If they`re doing their job correctly, they shouldn`t be worried about people filming them.
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
    2868 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 11:34 am
    However, how would you react to someone filming your every move while you performed your job?

    Security cameras are EVERYWHERE. Traffic lights and speed traps film drivers. If you work retail, you`re probably being filmed by your employer. But that`s all in the name of security, right? But when private citizens film the police, that`s interfering with their job? There is clearly a pervasive problem in the states with police abusing authority and violating citizens rights. I can think of no better way of preventing this than declaring the rights of all citizens to film encounters with the police.
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
    3447 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 11:58 am
    Everybody but pigs can be video recorded. F-U-I won`t do what you tell me!!!
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    Cartunze Male 60-69
    841 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 12:07 pm
    This video told me nothing beyond `cops don`t like to be filmed`, which I already knew.
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    8jdb28jdb2 Male 30-39
    83 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 12:19 pm
    These laws were all covered in the 1930s which allow for photographs to be taken and published of celebrities. The fact that officers are involved gives them no legal standing to disallow an unbiased collection of evidence.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36668 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    this problem`s been around for years.
    twisting wire-tapping laws designed to protect us & twisting them to prosecute us.
    Too many police officers were caught mistreating people, so rather than correct the police, they`ve outlawed the evidence.

    No politicians are representing their peeps and drafting new legislation.
    THEY can video/audio recrod you. You cannot do the same to them.

    only in Amerika
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    PUDDING1961 Female 40-49
    446 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 12:41 pm
    Here in Canada, police do not like soapy bubbles. And thats that!

    Officer Bubbles
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    human_exile Male 13-17
    875 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 2:52 pm
    maybe we should completely redo the government so our police officers can actually know the laws and not just make them up to get what they want
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    jen00384 Female 18-29
    229 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 3:24 pm
    So...?
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    green_batman Female 18-29
    728 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 3:27 pm
    I live in Maryland and the hypocrisy of the law makes me angry. Wiretap laws are used to prosecute people who film police, but they aren`t applied in cases such as security cameras and dashboard cameras on police cars. If the wiretap laws are going to be used to prevent citizens filming law enforcement, the law has to be properly applied to every other instance of filming without the consent of both parties. But what should really happen is that that law should be abolished.
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
    674 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 3:36 pm
    If you find this interesting, then it might be worth checking out Steve Mann
    I watched at least one documentary on this dude and he seemed to have many run-ins with the law.
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    gothmo Female 18-29
    1324 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 4:58 pm
    2Pudding

    I saw that, that really pissed me off. They`re bubbles for crying out loud. Especially in the video when they exposed that woman in public because they were "searching" her then the police woman proceeded to call her a baby. Glad to know Canada`s police officers are a$$hats too.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 5:23 pm
    and.....
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    IceDragon77 Male 18-29
    490 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 6:50 pm
    Eh, I can understand why cops may not like being filmed, as quite a lot of the time those videos will get put up on youtube and be taken out of context. However, if youre not directly filming then, then that is different..
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
    2765 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 8:35 pm
    I was all for what was being said until the clip being filmed at an accident scene. That shouldn`t be allowed.
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    EgalM Male 30-39
    1707 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 9:05 pm
    Regarding "officer bubbles". I`m sure she was arrested for something she said or did off camera. They just give it that title to try to sell news, it`s nonsense. They were just doing their job.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB5wiB4EMsk

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    TheShgn2 Male 13-17
    626 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 11:15 pm
    I agreed completely, until the part where the person was filming an car accident scene. The police man was yelling at him for a good reason, that car looked completely destroyed, and someone probably died. It`s terribly disrespectful to film something like that.
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    mykunter Male 40-49
    2424 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 11:51 pm
    Police officers are PUBLIC servants. There should be no law prohibiting the filming of them, at any time, while on duty. If they do their job correctly then there is nothing for them to worry about.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
    4903 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 12:18 am
    I dont think you should be allowed to film someone without their consent, i dont want some random idiot posting a video of me on youtube no matter what it is im doing. Its like an invasion of privacy or something.
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4006 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 12:34 am
    Instead of being afraid of cameras, bad police officers should stop lying to themselves and quit the force. You are supposed to take control of a bad situation, a person filming you doing your job should not be a problem, unless of course you know you`re bad at your job, and clearly going beyond what you are allowed to do.

    I don`t believe there should be any laws specifically for police officers. From their right to beat up anyone, searching/pat downs, shooting to kill someone, driving fast, not being filmed... and any other law you can imagine to failitate a police officer`s job.

    Their job is not to do these things they are allowed to do. A police officer`s job is to serve and protect, not to assume and overreact. All adding laws to protect police officers will do is add to the massive problem with police: They have too much power and resisting it is pointless as they HAVE TOO MUCH POWER!
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
    2868 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 12:48 am
    However, how would you react to someone filming your every move while you performed your job?

    Security cameras are EVERYWHERE. Traffic lights and speed traps film drivers. If you work retail, you`re probably being filmed by your employer. But that`s all in the name of security, right? But when private citizens film the police, that`s interfering with their job? There is clearly a pervasive problem in the states with police abusing authority and violating citizens rights. I can think of no better way of preventing this than declaring the rights of all citizens to film encounters with the police.
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    TypicalJerk Male 18-29
    533 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 1:12 am
    I dont think you should be allowed to film someone without their consent, i dont want some random idiot posting a video of me on youtube no matter what it is im doing. Its like an invasion of privacy or something.-

    then don`t do retarded poo in PUBLIC
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    Samsquanch Male 30-39
    792 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 6:00 am
    I dont think you should be allowed to film someone without their consent, i dont want some random idiot posting a video of me on youtube no matter what it is im doing. Its like an invasion of privacy or something.

    So...when you go out to a public event, say a concert at the park, or the fair, or something, you don`t take video or pictures because it could invade the privacy of all those other individuals in attendance?
    Private investigators are unable to do their jobs of catching people who seek to defraud insurance companies, because they`re unable to go out and film or photograph people?
    The list goes on. There`s a myriad of reasons why public filming and public photography should remain legal.
    Basically, if you`re in public view, you should remember that someone might see what you are doing. If you don`t want anyone to see what you`re doing, then remove yourself from public view.
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    blounsb999 Male 40-49
    183 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 6:53 am
    I am a HUGE advocate of privacy rights, however - let`s be real folks, understand a little thing called `expectation of privacy`. Are you in a Public place? then there is zero expectation of privacy.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36668 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 7:33 am

    Batmanners " A police officer`s job is to serve and protect"
    I bet you believe in Santa, too!

    A police officer`s job is to control the population.
    "Keep the peace". They do not care if you are right or wrong. They are not interested in `justice`, that`s for the courts to sort out.

    If you are in a disturbance, their job is to stop you. Right, wrong, justice don`t come into it.

    Obviously, this bully mentality job has gotten out of hand. But since it is too difficult to correct the problem, we will ban the evidence. No evidence - No problem.

  36. Profile photo of sbeelz
    sbeelz Male 30-39
    2868 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 10:19 am
    However, how would you react to someone filming your every move while you performed your job?

    Security cameras are EVERYWHERE. Traffic lights and speed traps film drivers. If you work retail, you`re probably being filmed by your employer. But that`s all in the name of security, right? But when private citizens film the police, that`s interfering with their job? There is clearly a pervasive problem in the states with police abusing authority and violating citizens rights. I can think of no better way of preventing this than declaring the rights of all citizens to film encounters with the police.
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    IseeingI2I Male 18-29
    271 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 10:28 am
    public is called PUBLIC for a reason nothing is private in public
  38. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36668 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 11:02 am

    how would you react to someone filming your every move while you performed your job

    they`re doing that to themselves. They started this video-flame war with dash mounted cameras. How is their video/audio recording, which is done without my consent, okay, but mine is not?
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    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    They wanna videotape us at increasing opportunity, but as usual, can`t handle a taste of their own medicine. You want transparency? It starts from above.
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    idiotfilter Male 18-29
    3916 posts
    May 30, 2011 at 5:02 pm
    Asking a cop to quote the ordinance is, is easily translated through copinese to "Are you too stupid to know your own laws?" Which is, in turn, responded with "I`m going to kick your ass you punk, do i look stupid to you!"
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
    4903 posts
    May 31, 2011 at 2:16 am
    @Samsquanch- i can see your point
  42. Profile photo of 8BitHero
    8BitHero Male 18-29
    5414 posts
    May 31, 2011 at 6:00 am
    What Gerry said.
  43. Profile photo of PinkHomicide
    PinkHomicide Female 18-29
    355 posts
    June 1, 2011 at 12:27 am
    how would you react to someone filming your every move while you performed your job.

    Most people are, ever work in a bank, grocery store, or any other kind of shop, security camera`s are not just for catching a potential theft/robbery but constantly monitoring employees. IF they were doing their jobs correctly they wouldn`t be concerned about being videod just as I was never concerned about the camera`s when I worked in stores- no one`s going to put up a video of them self getting cited by an officer who doing his job correctly and offering the same respect you give, so concerns of being all over the internet are really only for a cop who is corrupt.

    And I also have to agree with Gerry.

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