Condoleezza Rice Can`t Escape Activists

Submitted by: madest 5 years ago

Wouldn"t she know that law students don"t appreciate lectures from war criminals?
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Male 12,138
[quote]"One million people died in Iraq, Crakr." WHEN?! I hope you aren`t talking about US caused civilian fatalities. That`s like, 100k? War is hell.[/quote]
Only 100,000 civilian casualties? Sorry, that`s not so bad then.

[quote]SOOOOOOOOOOOO no. Iraq was legal, and approved by the UN.[/quote]
The invasion of Iraq was entirely illegal under international law, and you`re a f*cking liar for saying otherwise AJ.

[quote]davymid: I`m NOT condoning water boarding, I`m being comparative and subjective. No one has died from being water boarded in Gitmo, Nor have any of them been left with scars[/quote]
No, they`re entirely healthy after their ordeal.

Dude, you missed your calling. You should have worked for MI5 in Northern Ireland, where I grew up. You would have been in your element.
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Female 2,525
I am horrified by the way everyone immediately reacted by shouting "shut up!" and "get out of here!". Heaven forbid someone should stand up for what`s right in this godforsaken country.
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Male 997
Want to protest go for it... outside the building, scream shout picket go nuts. But she was invited for a speech, was inside giving a lecture to people and should be given courtesy to give the speech.
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Male 17,512
davymid: I`m NOT condoning water boarding, I`m being comparative and subjective. No one has died from being water boarded in Gitmo, Nor have any of them been left with scars, or damaged physically at all. Once again, insurgents/terrorists do NOT have Geneva convention protections under international law.

Student_Law: Wikipedia states that only 22,313– 23,826 insurgents are dead due to US military action. You failed to mention that the million deaths, that you quoted, have came from suicide bombings and insurgents killing civilians, NOT coalition forces.
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Male 10,339
"Nobody really has any good answers as to why Iraq was attaced."

The beginning of the war was based on bad British Intelligence, which at the time had the locations, and types, of WMD. When this info was found to be erroneous (and we were already at full power at the time), the focus of the war shifted to finding Saddam at the behest of the Iraqi people (yes they asked us to stay and find him) so he could be put on trial for the murder of the Kurds.

SOOOOOOOOOOOO no. Iraq was legal, and approved by the UN.
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Male 10,339
"One million people died in Iraq, Crakr."

WHEN?!

I hope you aren`t talking about US caused civilian fatalities. That`s like, 100k? War is hell.
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Male 1,010
"Calling `water boarding` torture is spurious at best, Compared to what John McCain endured in Vietnam it`s a cakewalk. "

Ok. International law calls waterboarding torture. USA, after having their own soldiers waterboarded by the Japanese military sentenced the Japanese to death by hanging, for torture by waterboarding. One got 15 years of hard labour.
As i recall, some of what Obama said when he ran for office, was to "end torture on Guantanamo". In conclution, most Americans probably consider waterboarding torture.

Waterboarding is pouring water into a persons respiratory system. This will cause a person to drown. It is EXTREMELY painful. It causes damage to the lungs. Some people don`t survive torture. People have been tortured to death in Guantanamo. And not just adults.
Kids too.
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Male 1,010
@CrakrJak:
One million people died in Iraq, Crakr. Now, people have died in other places too. Somalia. And yes, Libya and so on. I agree that these are dodgy schemes that both Clinton and Obama (alongside with European governments) have pulled off. We have troops in Afghanistan as well. The civilian population is suffering more than ever, and we are no saints. But you can`t let that distort your perspective on the Iraq war, not to speak of Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib. They are/were concentration camps. People are still locked in there. No trial. No jury. No future.

Nobody really has any good answers as to why Iraq was attaced. But it was in violation of international law, and it was an extremely violent attack on a civil population and it`s sovereignty. Now you can try and run away from this argument all you want by trying to disturb the debate with your constant derailment. But the fact remain the same: Bush is a war criminal.
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Male 12,138
vv Wait, did Crakrjak just condone waterboarding? Wow, I`m going to pretend I didn`t just read that.
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Male 17,512
Trojan: There is no evidence that KSM ever gave any viable intel, But others have. That is why confessions like those that lead us to Bin Laden need to be verified by different sources. Calling `water boarding` torture is spurious at best, Compared to what John McCain endured in Vietnam it`s a cakewalk.
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Male 2,988
lol, silly activists. these people so quick to criticize the bush admin and then adore a president that got a noble "peace" prize for doing nothing at the time of it being awarded, continued a war in both Iraq and Afghanistan, killed a man in cold blood to prove that we are better people than they are (bin laden), and then started sticking our noses in places they don`t belong like Libya. enjoy your new president and his new war efforts... drating ignorant hypocrites
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Male 511
Actually CrakrJak, intel gained via torture didn`t help us get bin Laden at all. In the 180 times Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was tortured, he gave pooty information every time. And even if they got something true, they certainly wouldn`t launch an extrajudicial operation in a foreign country based on it.
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Male 437
"One thing about republicans is if they can`t win fairly, they`ll cheat."

Don`t act like only Republicans do that. The way our last Congress passed legislation was pathetic. That is a silly blanket statement that applies to corrupt politicians, not an entire party.
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Male 1,293
It is pure ignorant bigotry to call Rice a war criminal. Students are such idiots so often.
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Male 17,512
AGit: The application of interrogation, not torture, got us the intelligence of Bin Laden`s couriers name, which in turn lead us to him in Pakistan.

Insurgents/Terrorists do not have the same rights as a nations soldiers during war time, That is made clear in the Geneva convention.

If Obama hadn`t been waffling the past two years on Gitmo and where and how about the prosecutions, The trials would be done and over with by now.

And I have yet to hear of a terrorist that we`ve captured executed without trial, Unless you are referring to Osama Bin Laden who threw his wife at the Seal Team, and was shot rather than face the humiliation of capture. (Most islamists like him would rather be martyred anyways)
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Female 46
Yayyyyy!
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Male 10,339
@david: While I can understand the sentiment, he was not a leader of a sovereign nation, or a diplomat, therefore Geneva rules on assassination do not apply to him.
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Male 143
>>>Ok CrakrJak, I admit that as she hasn`t been convicted, the fact that I said she was a war criminal is a personal belief and nothing more<<<

and a wrong belief at that. Where is the outrage at Obama for assasinating Bin Laden? Sounds like a criminal act to me.

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Male 10,339
i live in the United States where we protested en masse for weeks and it didn`t do anything

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It did everything. Democrats in the House of Representatives are rushing through legislation right now to limit the damage of the general election which they are about to experience. One thing about Democrats is if they can`t win fairly, they`ll cheat.

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Hey look Madest. I copied this from last year around the healthcare vote. Looks awfully similar hahahaha.
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Male 14,330
[quote]i used to have such a positive view of Europeans......[/quote]

You`re new here aren`t you WELCOME!!
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Male 995
"Oh look. All things Obama is doing right now, as we speak!"

I never said he wasn`t, did I?
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Male 10,339
"application of torture, forced reclusion without pressing charges, invasion of foreign countries and execution without trial all in the name of freedom and democracy is a very good definition of hypocrisy"

Oh look. All things Obama is doing right now, as we speak!
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Male 25,416
somebody wants attention
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Male 7,378
[quote]i live in wisconsin where we protested en masse for weeks and it didn`t do anything[/quote]
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It did everything. Republicans in Wisconsin are rushing through legislation right now to limit the damage of the recall elections which they are about to experience. One thing about republicans is if they can`t win fairly, they`ll cheat.
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Male 995
Ok CrakrJak, I admit that as she hasn`t been convicted, the fact that I said she was a war criminal is a personal belief and nothing more.
However, the fact that you defend the application of torture, forced reclusion without pressing charges, invasion of foreign countries and execution without trial all in the name of freedom and democracy is a very good definition of hypocrisy, don`t you think?
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Male 2,424
guess code pink doesnt care about the current admins war. Lets just get condi pfft hypocrits.
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Male 10,339
I figured since she is a black woman who overcame racial boundaries to become the 5th most powerful person in the United States, that liberals would love her. Alas, she is a Republican, and once you do that, you aren`t black anymore.

Herman Cain for President BTW.
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Male 17,512
Musuko: [quote]It wasn`t Obama`s decision to intervene in Libya: it was NATO`s.[/quote]

Excuse me ?, Where did you get that ? What nation leads, or is supposed to lead, NATO ? Obama is supposed to be a leader, if he can`t handle that responsibility then he should resign.

AGit: Mrs. Rice is NOT a war criminal anymore than Hillary Clinton is right now, But don`t let that fact deter you from being a hypocrite.
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Male 10,339
"i live in wisconsin where we protested en masse for weeks and it didn`t do anything."

Good thing it didn`t.

Anyway, back on topic. We are still in Iraq. If she`s a war criminal, then Baraq is a war criminal. Sorry if that makes you twitch.
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Male 213
At the moment there`s about 370K U.S. troops outside of the country, just under half of which are in Iraq (50K) and Afghanistan (100K). Bombs are also being dropped in Libya, and your government is still sizing up & posturing against Iran and North Korea, and countless espionage activities (I guess)....and Guantanamo is still open for business. I`m not for or against anything mentioned above, but at what point will these protesters start focussing their attention on Obama who has been in power since Nov 2008?
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Male 1,008
OUTWEST is my hero for the day! i used to have such a positive view of Europeans...... thanks for opening my eyes IAB :)
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Male 995
@CrakrJak, the loveable right wing troll: please don`t mix up things to justify your beliefs, it`s quite sad. The issue here is regarding the actions of Condoleeza while in government, nothing to do with current administration.
The fact that the current administration isn`t doing much doesn`t mean that the previous is absolved of any actions it took.
Condoleeza is a war criminal, regardless
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Male 108
Wow, Condi was really busy according to the screamers. Condi was a torturer and she killed 1,000,000 people all the while looking fabulous with that "like it kinda funky" gap toothed smile?? Such depth, such elan, such such such make me wanna touch.....YAAAAAAA BABY!!!!!
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Male 132
What has happened to all the war protests the last couple of years? I guess the bombs that we are using now are less deadly than the ones used under Bush.
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Male 605
@buck except you guys haven`t been at war under the laws of the constitution since 1941. The senate have never formal declared war since WW2. Everything since then has been a use of the presidents powers.
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Male 217
I`m amazed they never tazed the turds outta her for speaking up.
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Male 2,850
@CrakrJak

It wasn`t Obama`s decision to intervene in Libya: it was NATO`s.

The intervention is largely driven by French interest. Probably because they have a history in the area.

Understand this, because it seems you`re being willfully ignorant when it suits you; America`s involvement in Libya is because of its obligation to NATO, regardless of what your president might want.
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Male 143
Yet Universities allow Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to lecture without shouting him down. She didnt have anything to say, she just wanted to interupt the speech. F-ing liberals.

CrakrJak - Right on. They should stop the freakin hypocricy.
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Male 1,297
"Oh Code Pink, who you so silly? There`s better ways of protesting than yelling in a room full of exactly the same people who won`t listen to you."

like a video that gets over 12K hits in two days? let`s hear some better ideas. really. i don`t know good ways to protest in america. i live in wisconsin where we protested en masse for weeks and it didn`t do anything. i`m open to some f*cking suggestions here :}
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Female 3,001
annoying shouting girl is annoying
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Male 1,540
Oh Code Pink, who you so silly? There`s better ways of protesting than yelling in a room full of exactly the same people who won`t listen to you.
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Male 3,076
Let her talk, and than you can try and give som good comback. If you succed you can proudly call her a crazy bich if not, shut the hell up and let Condoleezza defend her self.

"this is america! we are free!, oh wait not you, you are too liberal and we are afraid of communism so shut up."
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Male 17,512
Student_Law: The only crime being committed are the relentless character assassinations being repeated by idiot liberals against everyone in the former Bush administration.

But let`s take a look at Obama for a second, He`s still using Bush appointees, Like Gen. Petraeus, and still continuing Bush`s path on national security issues. If you are nutty enough to charge Bush with being a `war criminal` you can not exempt Bill Clinton or Barrack Obama either.

So, If you marched with signs saying "No blood for oil" during the Bush administration, Why aren`t you doing the same against Obama right now ?

Especially when Gaddafi poses no threat to his neighbors and very publicly gave up his WMD programs.

If you say, "Humanitarian reasons" then why hasn`t Obama intervened in Syria and other countries ?
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Male 802
Freedom of speech is an awesome thing, but there`s no need to make an Ó“ss of yourself.
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Male 379
Every one keeps saying crimes. What crimes? Because the US went to war with out the permission of the UN? Last time I checked, we get our authority to go to war from the Constitution, not the UN. Yes in some countries there are papers to arrest GWB if he visits, but they are not official. Bush went to France (one of the countries where there is a warrant for him) and came back just fine.
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Male 2,332
"I applaud the audience for trying to shut this bitch up."

Yes. God forbid someone voices an unpopular opinion, the nerve of some people!

>.>
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Male 546
Sure... Sure.... Republicans are war mongers and criminals. Democrats are kind caring and wonderful. Those from other countries have all the unbiased information from their news sources.

We know the drill.

I`ll bet she is racist too, and wants to starve babies, and deprive old people of their health care! Don`t you?

and... for the responder that claimed the US Government is a puppet of Big Corporations, does that include Big Unions also?
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Male 2,737
What was done with Nazi war criminals back in the day, should still be done today. No MONEY powers should get away with it.CRIMES were committed on a massive scale. People should be punished to the limit. I`m willing to give up all my luxuries, for freedom and fairness. The United States Government is just puppets for big corporations. We sit about watching the puppets, as the Master of Puppets destroy us all.
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Male 1,010
She is probably a war criminal. George W Bush is allready busy dodging visits abroad, to avvoid arrest for his crimes agains humanity, and Donald Rumsfeldt and Dick Cheney may well have their warrants issued as well. Lawyers in several countries have the documents ready in case GWB plans to visit.

That the people who went against the UN, and attacked Iraq - which later has been proven to be a wrong and unjust war have commited crimes agains humanity, is not a matter of political wiew point. It`s a matter of law and fact.

And you may think it is inpolite to ruin Rices little speech here - but considering the crimes that have been committed and the amount of suffering these people have caused i can`t see how i am supposed to care. It could be Radco Mladic or Slobodan Milosevic up there, instead of Condi and i guess some people who think this was wrong, would say different.
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Male 10,440
[quote] Give Condoleeza a break here. [/quote]
I thought you guys were talking about the protester.
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Male 12,138
Anyways, I think we can agree here on this, despite our differing political views (which is good and healthy, and what democratic societies are based on).

Kidding aside, I think the shouter was a first-class dick. Condoleeza Rice (I assume) was invited to give a talk about her political experiences, and it was very gracious of her to take time out of her schedule to do so. For some random activist muppet to sabotage that event to make some political point (I don`t care which political point, it was still an ass move) was rude and ignorant.

If Al Gore, or Bill Clinton, or George W Bush, or whoever for that matter, gave some of their time to share some of their experiences from their time at the forefront of global geopolitics, I for one would have my mouth shut, and my ears open. Because I might just learn something. It`s about respect. This bint was just being rude and disrepectful, after Rice accepting a speaking invitation.

Anyway, that`s just my take on
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Male 17,512
davymid: I didn`t say that I`d pray to God "that He (would) remove this woman`s biological ability to procreate and ever have a family". And I definitely didn`t mean Condoleeza Rice, either (har har).

I`m praying that she`s moonbatty enough that she believes in the overpopulation of the planet and is self-celibate, Or that perhaps no man on this earth would procreate with such a wench.

It`s not like I`m wishing a curse on her. I`m praying for mercy that whatever children she would`ve had find their way to another woman`s womb, other than hers, For their sake.
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Male 10,339
Hahahaah Davy wins.
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Male 12,138
[quote]What a freaking moonbat, I pray she never has children.[/quote]
Woah there cowboy. You`re not just going to *hope* that she never has children, but you actually *PRAY* to your God that He will remove this woman`s biological ability to procreate and ever have a family? Jeez man, isn`t that a bit harsh?

Give Condoleeza a break here. ;-)
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Male 73
Same old liberal BS. Nothing to see here, move along...
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Male 17,512
AJ: You`re likely correct on that assumption sir.
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Male 10,339
@crakr: Don`t worry. If she does, they will be undisciplined vegans who grow up thinking they are better than everyone else, then end up homeless and call themselves "starving artists".

Damn hippies.
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Male 17,512
What a freaking moonbat, I pray she never has children.
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Male 10,339
@tisjokar: Nah. She isn`t SOS anymore. I don`t think cabinet members get lifetime Secret Service. The only thing she has is a personal security force, if that.

Once she left office, she became a regular citizen again.
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Male 985
Gotta admit, thats courage.
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Male 10,339
LOL ooooh Davy. Why must you hit 5cats below the belt like that hahahaha.
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Male 377
What a dumb fWcking bitch!
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Male 12,138
[quote]Condoleezza Rice Can`t Escape Activists. Wouldn`t she know that law students don`t appreciate lectures from war criminals? [/quote]
Sorry Brother Madest, but just as I can predict which posts were submitted by 5Cats based purely on the description, I made a little bet with myself that this was one of yours before I clicked. And sure enough.

Just saying.
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Male 196
World Can`t Wait is a communist front group. Bunch of spoiled brat liberal college douchebag kids that have never had to do anything for themselves since mom pooped them out.
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Male 773
Hipsters. That is all.
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Male 2,422
@DeanoBoz: Nice Larson reference. Also not a war criminal considering most Iraqis were killed by other Iraqis and Iraq is a sovereign nation. So there`s that. Here
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Male 10,339
If Rice is a war criminal, then I am the drating king of IAB and you should all bow to me...

Then go jump off a drating bridge. Madest first.

Partisan bullpoo.
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Male 10,339
Oh drat you with that war criminal bullpoo.

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Male 71
why was everyone so scared to remove her? i woulda thrown her over my shoulder like a bag of potatoes and carried her out.. problem solved.
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Male 493
This is probably one of the most rampant displays of jackassery I`ve ever seen. Although you may not agree with the actions a politician has taken, there`s still having some common courtesy to let someone give a lecture instead of interrupting and screaming bouts of insanity. I applaud the audience for trying to shut this bitch up.

Also why did you give the "GO TO HELL" screen instead of actual footage? I wouldn`t trust this kind of video to keep the facts straight.
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Male 757
"get the hell outta here!" "shaddup!" sounds like my dad in an argument lol
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Male 490
Rude. There is a time and place to protest, that was not one of them. All that did was make her look like an ass. Course I dont agree with what the Bush administration did (though I wouldnt call them war criminals either), but I have enough common sense to protest elsewhere and not make myself look like an arse for doing so. Besides, they probably paid for the time to get up there and talk, and if you do not want to hear it why dont you just walk out.
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Male 142
I would have stood there and let that lady make a fool of herself with one eyebrow raised the whole time as if to say, "Well, isn`t that interesting?"
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Male 10,440
Can someone explain why Rice is a war criminal? I`m missing something here and my initial reaction may be wrong.
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Male 1,182
war criminal...
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Male 10,440
Not much to discuss here. Woman makes ass of herself at lecture, followed by an old man who also probably makes an ass of himself...

I guess we could talk about this code pink.

If I remember correctly from Penn and Teller, they were an anti-war organization made of dumb, old, American zealots with nothing better to do but obstruct politics through disorganized protest with the intent of ending wars. Also they had very limited success.

Overall goal is good, approach is wrong.

War between developed nations is obsolete. War between underdeveloped nations still happens on account of various disputes. War between developed and underdeveloped can be boiled down to either ousting a tyrant, removing a physical threat or securing a threatened financial resource. All 3 are valid and usually more than one applies.
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Male 987
If you want to give a lecture, you book a lecture hall. If she intentionally interferes in the presentation these people paid to attend, she is a thief.
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Female 39
Technically, America is already a country that used lynching and torture when dealing with criminals in general, so she is in many ways ignorant in her comments regarding Mrs. Rice.
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Male 37,888

Funny!

You really CAN stand up, tell the truth,
and sound like a complete Nutter who no one will listen to.

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Male 286
that is indeed an awkward situation
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Male 2,402
@idiotfilter

Why do people boo her? i would have liked to hear what she had to say....

Because they are like the inconsiderate ass that talks behind you during the entire movie. it`s called manners to which this stupid wahine doesn`t get. If it were a court she would get the slap down as well.
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Male 734
@handys003 I`m equally perplexed by the PRC Flag.
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Male 3,915
Why do people boo her? i would have liked to hear what she had to say....
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Male 2,841
There are better ways to make an ass of yourself.
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Female 295
Where do people find time to do this poo? Especially in law school.
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Male 244
protesters are such idiots. Whatever their message, they always go about it wrong and they end up looking like crazed zealots. This lady accomplished zippo to help her cause. Plus, torture is necessary sometimes.
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Male 2,402
What I want to know is why the Peoples Republic of China flag was posted up at Stanford university? Were these not Chinese-Americans or Communist-Chinese. Where does their loyalty belong?
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Male 125
There`s a reason the US doesn`t recognize the International Criminal Court. If US administrations had to be accountable for their actions... well, let`s just say it would cramp their style.
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Male 1,231
@iceblack

aahhh I thought he was referring to the lady protesting! Completely agree- the fact she was ushered out of the room because she criticized rice and the government is disgusting.
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Male 2,050
the bush administration... a c-unt, a dick, a pussy, and an a-hole.
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Male 2,345
Rice, Bush, Powell, Cheney, Rummsfield, all of them started a war with NO REAL EVIDENCE.

you can spin that any damn way you want but the bottom line is there were no WMD`s and no just cause for war.

that constitutes a war crime.
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Male 5,001
DeanoBoz WTF your avatar is disgusting!!! Shame on you, this is Mussolini.
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Female 1,008
I was really surprised by the audience`s reaction.
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Male 551
@mal_BB

Emmm... He said Rice should be arrested, not that lady I
wish was my mother. Good for her!

It`s the only way people can ever have a voice in front
of politicians. If only more people had the guts to do so...
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Male 1,231
I`m surprised there weren`t at least a few people who agreed with that woman, and that one guy even said she should be arrested!
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Male 562
Excuse me, Mame. This lecture is about law and international market, the lecture on harboring war criminals is next week. I think it`s Michael Moore or someone like that. Hahahaha
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Male 1,378
They don`t let her talk for sht, ignorants
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Male 161
God I hate law students, and I was one. I became a Chef because I wanted to make people happy, law students these days all have some sort of agenda, and now I am getting back into it just to f with them. Well I also want to effect some change in this country. So many of the people that go into this field are so myopic that they will be contradicting themselves in the future to the determent of us all.
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Male 562
Hell, I`d vote for the Umbrella Corp. it it were real, sorry hippies. Rice`s clan are war criminals, but oh well. Would you bring back-up if you`re going to protest a lecture?
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Male 1,122
Well, that certainly was something.
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Male 4,431
@2L82Pray, you think Rice is going to intelligently debate or even answer questions about her criminal activity?
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Male 4,431
I`m ashamed of the audience`s reaction. :-( She *is* a war criminal!
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Male 535
oh come on 2L82Pray! you need to man up here and stop being all flowers and bees!
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Male 840
The whole lot of them should be in jail right now. I am talking about Rice, Rove, Rumsfield, Cheney, and the Bush whacker himself.
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Male 535
that woman should get a medal
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Male 195
One whale said to the other, "I dunno, how many college students do you think YOU could eat in one bite?"
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Male 478
Isn`t self-righteousness awesome?

And when did she say "Go to hell"? I didn`t hear that anywhere in the clip.
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Female 70
I have no opinion on her opinion about Rice. This is about Her BEHAVIOR. This girl was Rude beyond belief. She was strident, insulting, lacks any social grace, and apparently incapable of intelligent debate or she wouldn`t have stood up and screamed at people without giving any chance of rebuttal. When (God help us) she becomes a lawyer, if she behaves that way in a courtroom, I hope the judge slaps her with contempt and throws her in jail. In the Real World (not College) people who act this way aren`t respected and their opinions are dismissed as the ravings of fanatics
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Male 1,793
She is a war criminal.....
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Male 7,378
Link: Condoleezza Rice Can`t Escape Activists [Rate Link] - Wouldn`t she know that law students don`t appreciate lectures from war criminals?
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