Cancer Treatment And Cure?

Submitted by: Gerry1of1 6 years ago in Science

Cancer cure possible... but not profitable for pharmaceutical companies so you might never hear about it.
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Female 452
I like how people are so willing to believe the media`s claims about science and scientific discoveries (which are really quite often misleading). Rather than do research to dig up real scientific evidence for themselves, they put their trust in questionable sources out of intellectual laziness or because it reinforces their preconceived notions about how the world works.
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Male 60
what a f`d up world we live in
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Male 562
People with cancer sometimes have nothing to lose. When a couple of these CEO`s wind-up with a bullet in their heads, then it well be a great day.
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Male 718
When the time comes and it looks bleak for me.. im just gonna pick up a hand gun..slowly and spiritually walk into my back yard, or a wooded area and blow my head off.. id rather just...end it quickly then to have to fight and fight and fight anymore... its BEYOND drating apparent that these corporations are in charge, and care nothing at all for their fellow man.. here they are supposed to be saving us. coming up with new meds to keep us alive.. and instead they drop something cause (they cant make enough money off it) i hope if their IS a hell they burn in it forever and ever.
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Male 205
[quote]Also, how can something ever be not profitable for a drug company. If something cures a cancer then they would charge out the nose for it, regardless of what it costs to make.[/quote]

They can`t charge what they want because it`s not patentable - everybody can make it and the competition will find a prize that is reasonable.

The cost on the other hand lies not in the manufacturing but in the studies. Whoever will fund the studies wouldn`t get that money back.
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Female 130
yeah it`s not a voice over, the audio is just not in complete sync with the video. it`s slightly behind.
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Female 198
"This is stupid and false" ...nope, just you are.
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Female 58
There is no "cure for cancer" because not all cancers will have the same cure. You cant cure leukemia with the same drug you use for lung cancer.

Also, how can something ever be not profitable for a drug company. If something cures a cancer then they would charge out the nose for it, regardless of what it costs to make.
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Male 150
Wooh! CTV (Canadian).
i can verify this isn`t some bad voice over, that`s their real voices.
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Male 10
It`s like a bad porn...horrible voice overs, nothing matches up
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Female 728
"hard-earned tax dollars"

I think my brain just exploded.
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Male 87
This is stupid and false
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Male 12,365
Incidentally, the researcher shown in this video is a proper medical researcher, so he approves of the proper testing and he did not portray it as a miracle cure on the basis of his small-scale animal trials. He`s well aware that initial results on animals are just an indicator and do not automatically mean risk-free treatment for humans:

[quote]Oncology is full of examples of miracle drugs in animals that never make it because they don`t work in human beings.[/quote]
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Male 12,365
In a very brief look, I`ve found more than a dozen human trials on DCA for various forms of cancer.

So where`s the evidence for the suppression of it that some people are claiming exists?

Even if drug companies were developing it as a pro bono gesture or for advertising purposes (if you had the choice of buying over the counter medicine from a company that donated billions to develop a cheap and effective cancer treatment or the same medicine from a company that didn`t, which would you choose?) it wouldn`t make any difference.

If it`s done right, drug development is very time-consuming.

If it`s done wrong, it`s less efficient at saving lives and can be very seriously bad. Thalidomide made it through even with all the testing - imagine how bad things would be without that testing.
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Male 12,365
[quote]These stories kill me. It`s there in our reach but kept locked up because her having treatments that might not work will make them more money.[/quote]

Exactly the reaction the scaremongering media want, because that makes more profit for them. They`ll abuse your feelings for their profit...and you`ll thank them for doing it. It`s every bit as twisted as how you think the drug company conspiracy works.

DCA is *NOT PATENTED*. It can`t be "locked up" because there`s no way to do that.

Various places are doing research on it in various countries. It`s not being suppressed. It`s just that the reality of DCA as a cancer treatment is very different to how some parts of the media portrayed it as being, a few years ago.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Dude...it`s something that KILLS CANCER, who the f*ck turns that down? F*ck profits, this can save lives.[/quote]

So...you`d give people untested drugs at random doses (since the correct dose is unknown) that might or might not help and might or might not kill them, because one small study found that it appeared to shrink some kinds of tumours in rats.

Really, you`d do that? You`d throw away the opportunity of learning the best way to save lives just because you`d prefer to randomly shove drugs into people because...because why, exactly? A bit of good publicity to help your political career because most people are too ignorant to know what`s wrong about that course of action? An ignorant and callous way to make yourself feel good? An ignorant and misguided attempt to save lives?

DCA is being properly tested as a cancer treatment, which is what should happen. It`s not as media-friendly, but it`s the most efficient way to save lives.
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Male 59
@Intaresting Steve Jobs already has cancer. And will likely not be here this time next year...
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Male 2,688
[quote]If Steve Jobbs or Bill Gates gets cancer, it`d be available in a week.[/quote]

Yea... to THEM....
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Female 2,764
My Nana was just diagnosed 2 weeks ago with cancer- again. She`s my best friend. I don`t know what I`d do without her. These stories kill me. It`s there in our reach but kept locked up because her having treatments that might not work will make them more money.
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Male 395
Dichloroacetic acid is in Stage 3 trials at the moment, making this video irrelevant.
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Male 2,521
This is a perfect reason why Universal Health care is necessary.

If private pharmaceutical companies will not pay (and I understand why they wouldn`t), then that`s where our government and we as caring citizens should be willing to bite the bullet.

Unfortunately, millions of tea-baggers would scream SOCIALISM! They would rather their parents, grandparents, and children die of cancer than have our government use their hard-earned tax dollars to pay for this research.

Please not that I said "parents, grandparents, and children. If the tea-bagger themselves get cancer, then they will then change their stance as they always do and then expect the government to help.
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Male 2,402
@Intaresting
For that matter just about any of your multi-billionaires.
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Male 812
If Steve Jobbs or Bill Gates gets cancer, it`d be available in a week.
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Male 363
"F*ck profits, this can save lives."

And I suppose you`re going to pay the billions of dollars in research costs for something that may or may not kill some forms of cancer?
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Male 1,929
Yeah, this isn`t all-that and a bag of potato chips.
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Female 129
Dude...it`s something that KILLS CANCER, who the f*ck turns that down? F*ck profits, this can save lives.
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Female 728
Dichloroacetic acid is mildly carcinogenic. That means that it isn`t free of side effects. I`m also quite skeptical of the claims of this report, given that I`m not seeing studies about the miracle qualities of DCA popping up when I do a scholarly search.
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Male 2,384
drating pharm companies only treat symptoms, not make cures, the`re in the money buisness not the helping buisness
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Male 2,402
@CrakrJak
Fact: Insurance companies are not in the business of running and funding any trials on R&D. Never have and never will. They are ibn the business of charging and providing coverage only.
it`s not hteir kuliana (business).

Research is usually funded by governmnmt grants of private donations to universities and other reseach facilities. Because this is in Canada. I suspect funding may be difficult due to budgets.
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Male 328
@Fatninja01 - Do you really even need to ask that question?

@Batmanners - Never in a million years would would a cancer charity actively try to stop the process of making a cure. The entire goal of those organizations is to find a cure. However, I could most certainly see pharmaceutical companies throwing millions of dollars at whoever could destroy the cure for cancer. Seriously, pharmaceutical companies have no souls.
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Female 446
Well, even if this drug only treats tumorous cancers by shrinking them, that`s still a way to get a hellofalot of people closer to remission. Hurry up with the testing already!
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Male 17,512
Angilion: After the lengthy reading of your listed source the conclusion seems to be that DCA may not be a `miracle cure`, but it may be a possible effective part of a comprehensive cancer treatment.

Basically more trials are needed, but it`s basic ability to change the metabolism mechanism of cancer cells certainly looks promising.
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Male 59
youtube.com/watch?v=0psJhQHk_GI
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Male 5,194
This is another "100 mpg carburetor" story. Total BS.
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Male 12,365
I had a quick look and OH MY WORD what a surprise!

Trials are ongoing on DCA. Amazingly, the almighty powers of THE CONSPIRACY have proved conspicuous by their absence. Much like the evidence that DCA cures any type of cancer in humans.

Some details here
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Male 12,365
Yeah, because a cure for all forms of cancer would do absolutely nothing for the reputation of a drug company and nobody apart from drug companies is allowed to do any research.

i) Cancer isn`t a single disease and so it`s really unlikely that there is a single cure.

ii) Conspiracy theories are bull.

Can you think of a better way for a government to get re-elected than curing cancer? Political parties would even pay for the research out of their own funds.
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Male 17,512
I would think that the insurance companies would love to fund this just to decrease the cost of care and make more profit for themselves.
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Male 528
don`t worry guys i got this, give me the ingredients and cancer will be cured .. oh wait? curing cancer is a potential offence -_-
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Male 4,004
Not profitable for Pharmaceutical Companies? You really think Pharmaceutical companies are looking to profit from the cure for cancer?

Think of the impact a CURE would have on Cancer Societies! Breast Cancer Awareness, Canadian Cancer Association, American Cancer Society, and on and on and on... Think of all the events you see around for SPECIFIC cancer research. I am sure if there were to be a cheap cure, the people who make a living from these so-called "chrities" would put a stop to it. There may be a cure, but giving money to these dumb f*cking organizations is NOT the answer to it, Not a single one of them has gotten anywhere but loaded their pockets full of cash since their inception...SHENANIGANS!
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Male 2,422
A cure for which cancer?
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Male 1,931
@AirborneJT - you obviously never have loosed someone to cancer. You make me sick.
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Male 145
There is no "blanket cure" for cancer. Considering the different natures and causes of different kinds of cancer, there is no true "cure for cancer" on the horizon.

On a related note, do we need a cure for cancer when people don`t take the risk of getting cancer seriously, anyway? Regular checks, living a healthy lifestyle, and early detection is almost a slam dunk in many cases. People just want a pill for everything, I guess.

Now if you`ll excuse me, I`m gonna go slip the morning after pill into my girlfriend`s coffee. That is, after all, the cure for pregnancy, or as I say, cancer of the life.
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Male 506
What most people don`t realise is that cancer is a group of different diseases which are all characterized with uncontrollable cell growth - this occurs from either a single gene defect or multiple genetic defects.

Due to the number types of cells/DNA chains/and different cancerous mutations it makes it very difficult to detect or indefinitely cure it. I doubt this is the end all for cancers - and probably shows by the age of this video.

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Male 25,416
Are they out to help the people or make the money
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Male 363
Yeah, this is a couple of years old and the reason it`s not being used to save the world is that it isn`t a cancer cure. It`s something that might eventually lead to some kind of cancer medicine if someone wants to spend billions of dollars on research and development without getting anything back because they can`t make money on it.

If governments around the world could tap a few billions out of their huge budgets then maybe we could get something out of this but since pharmaceutical companies aren`t charities they aren`t going to do it.
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Male 38,501

@naz2k55 - yes there are those. the point of this one is that it has no side effects and is low cost, therefore unexplored.
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Male 119
we already have cancer cures, Surgery chemotherapy and radiotherapy are treatments that provide a cure for cancer as a cure is defined as treatment eradicating a disease with no recurrence in 5 years
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Male 38,501
Link: Cancer Treatment And Cure? [Rate Link] - Cancer cure possible... but not profitable for pharmaceutical companies so you might never hear about it.
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