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  1. Profile photo of zombunny
    zombunny Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 8:57 am
    Link: Obama`s Birth Certificate Finally Revealed - What now, birthers?
  2. Profile photo of nubblins
    nubblins Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:02 am
    You should`ve posted the Trump interview where he takes credit. I swear, if is his head were bigger, he`d float away.
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    mrpuddle Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:03 am
    Fake.
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    DJDoubleb Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:03 am
    Bout time. Next issue.
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    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:04 am
    Sooooo if this was released a long time ago the birthers would have stopped.........a long time ago!
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    fivezones Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:05 am
    So his father was 25 and and mother was 18. That means she was pregnant at 17. So that makes his father a rapist?
  7. Profile photo of nubblins
    nubblins Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:05 am
    @FeelTheRide

    It won`t stop them.
    You just don`t "stop" crazy.
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    dragonj1 Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:05 am
    photoshop`d.
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    greenbasterd Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:05 am
    obvious fake. if you look closely you can see the paper isn`t triple interweave cellulose paper that Hawaii Printed all Government certs on from 1949-1978 when they changed to doubleweave stamped hemp paper.

    NOBODY ELSE NOTICED THIS?
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    El_Chinche Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:06 am
    This won`t be enough. I guarantee the birthers will pull a reason out of their asses as to why this isn`t valid (forgery? wrong type of certificate? Hawaii isn`t really a state?). You just can`t reason with these idiots.

    ...Or they will move on to the "Obama secret muslim!" delusion.
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    markperr Male 50-59
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:06 am
    Now we need to hand it over to Donald Trump so that his investigators can make sure it`s not another forgery.
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    MikeyNiv Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:07 am
    before people ask why they only release this now, its cos they knew that tea-partiers would get all riled up about his birth country, and when they look bad the republicans look bad.
    right?
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:07 am
    @Fivezones

    You can get pregnant at 18 and give birth at 18. Babies are only in there for 9 mos, not 12. ;)
    Just sayin.
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    TheTumor Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:07 am
    But WHY did it take so long?
  15. Profile photo of collegebound
    collegebound Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:09 am
    :o thats right around where i used to live when i was in Hawaii :D
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    DeathToLems Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:12 am
    i never knew he had the same name as his dad. thats all the interesting stuff i read here. the rest i don`t care for.
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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:12 am
    It`s suspect due to the fact that it took so long to produce.

    If this is his real birth certificate, and there doesn`t seem to be anything wrong with it, what was the hold up?
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    Webz Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:12 am
    I`m sure they`ll reject this as some form of fabrication/liberal conspiracy.

    Lunatics will never be satisfied.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:13 am
    fivezones: first of all you can still be 18 and be pregnant and have your baby...it only takes 9 months...secondly that would more than likely make him a pedophile (this depends on age of consent laws and such in Hawaii) not a rapist...

    most pathetic attempt to make ANYONE look bad EVER...

    why are people still pissed that he got elected? its over and done with...if you dont want him next term now you know not to vote for him...this time we`ll let McCain and Pallin win so we can go to WW3...
  20. Profile photo of DeathToLems
    DeathToLems Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:13 am
    @ fivezone? hmm so underage sex is now called rape? are you stupid?
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    rebetikas Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:15 am
    So much fuss over something so stupid. What`s the merit of the law anyway? If the majority of people were to vote for a non-American born president, then obviously the majority of people don`t care that he wasn`t born in the U.S. Also, why did it take so long for this document to be produced?
  22. Profile photo of nubblins
    nubblins Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:16 am
    @Fancylad

    Watch the vid where Obama talks about why he finally released it. He clearly states, `I have better things to do.`

    It was confirmed before he released it, but he was annoyed that while congress was working on a budget bill, the networks were still rambling on about his "suspect" birth place. It`s all really silly and he shouldn`t have had to do it...

    At least it shut Trump up. I was really sick of seeing him embarrass himself on interviews.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:16 am

    ? Does the `Signature of Local Registrar` look like

    U K Lalee ?


  24. Profile photo of rogue_knight
    rogue_knight Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:16 am
    Hmm -so how come it took so long for them to release it? Not like any idiot with photoshop couldn`t fabricate this - right? Or maybe Alvin T. Onaka, PH.D. was holding out for top dollar as a bribe to certify that it is a "true copy"...Maybe they were just waiting for the Easter Bunny to deliver it - both must certainly be real since the media reports on both..
  25. Profile photo of DeathToLems
    DeathToLems Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:18 am
    lol at the U K laylee. XD
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    lawsonj123 Female 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:18 am
    Photoshop
  27. Profile photo of fivezones
    fivezones Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:21 am
    @ I-A-B `tards: That was a joke. It should be obviously a joke. What is wrong with you?
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    fivezones Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:23 am
    @DeathToLems: Yes, underage sex is called rape. The stupid one is you. Google the word "Statutory" It is more than one syllable but I hope you can handle it.

    AND IT WAS A JOKE YOU DUNDERHEAD!
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    614188 Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:24 am
    Top Secret
  30. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:27 am
    @nubblins

    thanks, i haven`t seen that yet. it`s been subject to controversy for 2+ years, just wondering why it wasn`t produced sooner.
  31. Profile photo of Enjin
    Enjin Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:28 am
    That sucks, I was really hoping there would be something on it that would merit trying to hide it. I mean I don`t doubt he was born in the US, just was hoping for some reason behind the nonsense.

    I do find it odd that his father put African as his race though. I`m probably wrong but I always assumed "African" was a nationality. I even know a guy who was from Africa and was white. That kind of thing always confuses the hell out of me. And his mother put Caucasian as race as opposed to say "Irish" or "English". When I was a little kid I used to see commercial on TV for "The United Negro College Fund". So I always believed that negro was the proper word for someone who was of the black race. So anyway, whats the deal there.
  32. Profile photo of MarkAZ
    MarkAZ Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:28 am
    @Mikey Tea-Partiers and birthers are 2 separate groups. Tea-Partiers are average everyday Americans, fed up with the Washington BS. Birthers are the same people as the 9/11 truthers, and are not truly a part of the conservative movement. So before you start lumping the 2 together, make sure you know your facts.
  33. Profile photo of rogue_knight
    rogue_knight Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:28 am
    @ nubbins "Obama has better things to do? Like what - further F up the country. Hmm how hard is it for him to tell his secretary- hey how bout u go git my birth certificate and make it public- and tell Michelle to stop eating all dem grits!
  34. Profile photo of EricWRN
    EricWRN Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:28 am
    whoa, a birth certificate! he still sucks :(
  35. Profile photo of TruTenrMan
    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:30 am
    Photoshop. "FAKE-N-GAY"
  36. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:31 am
    @nubblins

    I saw the video. Here`s the thing. If someone told me to produce my birth certificate, all I`d have to do is go to my filing cabinet, scan it and email it to whomever needed it. it would take about 30 seconds.

    Obama could have shut up his doubters so fast.

    Also, has anyone commented on how this looks like a copy of his birth certificate? Wasn`t the problem that his BC was destroyed when the hospital he was born in was flooded or something?
  37. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:35 am
    Enjin brings up some good points about the usage of Irish, Caucasian, Negro and African. That said, hospitals played it fast and loose with race back then. I`m spanish/german but my BC calls me Caucasian.
  38. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:37 am

    so how come it took so long for them to release it?

    back in the day, after an adoption birth records were automatically sealed to protect mothers who gave up children. Unfortunately, this meant that in the case of a step-father adoption a child {as in the case of Obama} his birth record was sealed and it took time to get Hawaii to release it. The "sealed birth record" was another conspiracy theory floating around for a while.

    But I predict the release of the birth record will have no impact on Americans. We don`t like to confuse issues with facts.

  39. Profile photo of HalfPintRoo
    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:38 am
    Now people are saying "Why did it take so long then?!?!"

    My God... GET OVER IT
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    faustsshadow Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:39 am
    True, most of the vocal birthers seemed a bit nutty - but for the many people who had some lingering doubts (still birthers) this isn`t a slap in the face. If I was a birther, it would mean that I had some doubts about if he was really born in the States. If this proved it, I would say - oh, ok. Moving on now.
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:39 am
    It looks like Obama`s mom was knocked up only 5 days after her 18th birthday. (if I did the math right)
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    sofaking42 Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:41 am
    Wow this changes everything! Such a milestone, revelation et cetera...Not.
  43. Profile photo of zombunny
    zombunny Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:43 am
    Fancy (and others asking why it took so long), the White House has explained the delay on their website.
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    osirisascend Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:44 am
    For those of you engaging in the "rapist" debate in this thread, the age of consent in Hawaii is 16.

    No laws broken.
  45. Profile photo of nubblins
    nubblins Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:46 am
    I had to get a second birth certificate because my original was destroyed in a house fire;
    The one the state of Iowa looks almost exactly like this only the paper says Iowa and it`s blue. It kind of does look like a copy, but hey, that`s what the state gave me.

    But, as I said, he shouldn`t HAVE to release it when people asked. The state of Hawaii had ALREADY confirmed that he was born there (several times). He just wanted to put it to rest so people can focus on real problems, not loony conspiracy theories.
    I fear there was no point though. :/ Crazies will be crazy.
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:47 am
    Natural Born Citizen was defined by some in 1866 as: Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.
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    DracObi Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:48 am
    Wow, someone finally got around to forging a fake Birth certificate after 3 years? Took long enough.

    Also, as was previously stated, the whole issue was that he claimed it was destroyed in a natural disaster that befell the hospital.....
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:49 am
    The only reason Obama finally gave it up is because he is afraid he won`t be re-elected... and he is right.

    There is no good reason why it should have taken this long and so much trouble to produce the information that we all have a right to.
  49. Profile photo of rogue_knight
    rogue_knight Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:53 am
    Obama`s grandparents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham, lived at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, not Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham.Barack Obama Sr. lived alone at an 11th Avenue address in Honolulu, closer to the university.
    Falsified doccument from the start- lairs from the start!
  50. Profile photo of rogue_knight
    rogue_knight Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:58 am
    @zom.. "The President believed the distraction over his birth certificate wasn’t good for the country." So instead of just resolving the issue immediately let it dwell on for years? Makes as much sense as dying your hair green and expecting to be taken seriously!
  51. Profile photo of collegebound
    collegebound Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:06 am
    rogue: why would people still be asking for a birth certificate after 3 years of service? he OBVIOUSLY isnt going anywhere and OBVIOUSLY nobody really cares that he isnt...we as people have the power to say "prove it or lose it" and nobody said poo. the only people to mad at at this point is yourselves... ill be the first to say that im not Obama`s biggest fan but ill also be the first to say that if you didnt want him in there that bad you should never have voted for him. next term try again, hope for McCain/Palin and pray to god that we survive WW3 with as few scrapes and bruises as possible(yeah drating right...)
  52. Profile photo of zombunny
    zombunny Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:06 am
    @rogue, the thing is, this issue was resolved by the state of Hawaii long ago. People just wouldn`t accept it, so he finally decided to step in. And I would never dye my hair green and expect to be taken seriously. I dyed it turquoise instead.
  53. Profile photo of collegebound
    collegebound Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:06 am
    to be mad at at this point* is what i meant to say
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    Burton_Ian Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:12 am
    WHY are people still wasting time with this? I honestly thought this was resolved four years ago, but atlas the stupidity of the illiterate masses never ceases to amaze me...
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:18 am
    The only reason Obama finally gave it up is because he is afraid he won`t be re-elected... and he is right.
    -----------
    Yeah the nation is going to vote for republicans who are attempting to convince Americans our budget problems are caused by grandmas medicare and Social security checks. Because Americans inherently love insurance companies and wall street.


    duh...
  56. Profile photo of DJDoubleb
    DJDoubleb Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:20 am
    Ok, so, I know he is a natural born citizen, and I am not arguing that he is or isn`t, but why are you two (zom and College) jumping all over rogue for a legitimate point. Obama said he thought this was a horrible distraction. Release this certificate and it`s over, but he wouldn`t? Why? His reasoning doesn`t make sense. "Because I shouldn`t have too". Fine, but don`t freaking complain about everyone else being distracted!
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:23 am
    I see a Certificate of Live Birth.
    Where is the Birth Certificate?

    Believe it or not, there is a difference.
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    startech Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:23 am
    Who gives a poo, really...
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:24 am

    THANK GOD!

    Now we can move on to more imporatant issues like who will get kicked off Dancing With The Stars, who might win IDOL, and who dies on GLEE!

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    DJDoubleb Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:26 am
    No madest, we are going to vote fiscal conservative because the government`s spending combined with the printing of money is combining to devalue the dollar. This is causing inflation, unemployment, and a collapsed housing market. DO you ever look at your budget and say, "hey, I`m so far in the hole, I`ll never get my bills paid off. I`d better get a loan!"

    Well, neither should the government. And Obama comes in and spends more money than the last nut Job.

    That is what Tea bagger`s are looking for, not a republican, a fiscal conservative. And if you don`t think Obama is in trouble look at the last election for congress. That was a BIG swing in power.
  61. Profile photo of collegebound
    collegebound Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:31 am
    DJ: why keep jumping on Obama for 3 years over a piece of paper?
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:31 am
    @DJDoubleB, I`m not jumping all over anyone, thanks. I just responded with a counterpoint. Perhaps Obama, like most sensible humans, figured it would blow over by the time his next campaign started, and didn`t feel the need to do anything about it until it became evident that haters were, in fact, gon` hate.
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    davidildo123 Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:32 am
    I think it is just swell that someone who is serving the people feels he doesn`t have to prove to a large percentage of them his proof that he is legitimate to hold office.

    Of course, if I were pulled over by a cop and refused to show id, then I would be arrested.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:32 am
    Hey DJDoubleb, That kool-Aide the Koch brothers are feeding you must taste really good.
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    davidildo123 Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:41 am
    Good job Madest! I love your well thought out arguements. They really made me think. lol
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:43 am
    His mom`s name is Stanley? Hehheheee!
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    Subushie Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:49 am
    except Mr.Dildo, his Birth certificate has always been within the reach of the US government; His citizenship would have to have been proven before he was even a candidate for election. His citizenship has never been in question, anyone who believes it was; is retarded...
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    MaximumTroll Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:51 am
    LOL. drat being polite about this. You drating coservatives are dumb as poo, so caught up in defending what the TV tells you to you`ve lost touch with reality. PRESIDENT IS LEGIT. SUCK IT. drating idiots. lol
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    DJDoubleb Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:52 am
    @zom: You are right, you didn`t jump, you were just conversing, my apologies.

    @college: For a lot of us, it wasn`t an issue, we were just curious. And now I hear his excuse and that makes me curious as well. I`m not trying to have him removed, I think that would be the worse thing for our country now. Just what he said doesn`t make sense and it`s Ok for the rest of us to go, "Huh?"
    @madest: It has nothing to do with the corporate America or Oil tycoons. It`s common sense. If you bring in x amount of Money you can not spend an amount over x without borrowing. You cannot borrow every year for infinity. You HAVE to pay up sometime. You cannot sustain a positive debt yearly. And in a time when a majority of Americans are screaming to reduce spending, Obama asked to have the debt ceiling raised. The man is committing political suicide. You watch the next election, it will be a fiscal conservative because that`s what the nation wants.
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    phoneybone Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:52 am
    Why did he take the same name as his dead beat dad?
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    MaximumTroll Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:53 am
    P.S. madest actually uses logic when thinking, not blind faith in God and love for Glenn Beck.
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    DJDoubleb Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:58 am
    Maximum, there is not a single God comment or Glen Beck post in this thread. Thank you for your contribution though.
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    davidildo123 Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:00 am
    subushie - Yep, people are stupid. But stupid or not, he should have just took the 30 seconds to authorize it and move on. His citizenship was in question by idiots, but questioned just the same.

    The whole idea of him saying he has better things to do with his time is just a joke considering that he is under criticism for spending too much time campaigning, golf, and basketball. This would have took all of 30 seconds if he didn`t grandstand and give a big ol` speech behind it.
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:02 am
    [email protected]%32#1!!!1//.?!
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    davidildo123 Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:03 am
    Maximum.... Please show me where he said anything logical, or where anyone mentioned God and Glen Beck.

    Oh wait, I get it. You are a Troll, your comments don`t have to make sense.
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    BigDaddyJeff Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:03 am
    it is a fake..his father`s race is listed as African.
    African is not a race,it should have said black or (given that this was the early 1960`s) negro
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    ultimakewl Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:05 am
    i dont understand how this was ever an issue. do people think nobody checks this crap before the person is allowed to run or even after elected? do they think the elections are based on the damn honor system?

    drat NO!
    theres people that do extensive background checks on the candidates to make sure they meet the drating requirements.
    anyone that ever even slightly questioned or still questions his place of birth needs to go die in a fire
  78. Profile photo of SPrinkZ
    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:07 am
    Hey Dildo breath, McCain was born in drating Panama. Let`s call his birth into question too. Oh wait, he`s white.
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    dang007 Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:08 am
    >>theres people that do extensive background checks on the candidates to make sure they meet the drating requirements. <<<

    You mean like the way the Clinton`s raised the issue of were Obama was born during the primaries?
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:14 am
    Clearly the morons who insisted Obama show his birth certificate have never had to get a passport. No surprise to me that birthers weren`t well traveled.
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    grimlock16 Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:16 am
    Mother`s mailing address is blank.. :)
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    fiizok Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:22 am
    I`m absolutely delighted that this won`t keep teatards and other right-wing lunatics from saying incredibly stupid things about Obama`s citizenship.
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    davidildo123 Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:27 am
    SPrinkZ -Wow. Where to start.
    1st, I never questioned his citizenship.
    2nd, McCain released his birth certificate
    3rd, Michigan Law Review wrote a brief explaining why McCain "cannot be President: Eleven months and a hundred yards short of Citizenship"
    4th, McCain`s qualifications were also challnged by prof. Gabriel J Chin and a seperate lawsuit went to the federal court that contested it.
    5th, One of Obama`s advisors wrote a memorandum about McCains citizenship. (laurence H. Tribe)
  84. Profile photo of rogue_knight
    rogue_knight Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:27 am
    @flizok- apparently nothing stops you from being an idiot...
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    jib Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:39 am
    @SprinkZ
    Yes, but during that time the Panama Canal was under US control so I guess still technically American
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    fiizok Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:45 am
    rogue_knight: Y-A-W-N.
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    LordSatanPhd Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:54 am
    lol his mom`s name is Stanley.
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    Liz4187 Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:57 am
    Know what offends me the most about all of this... There are people whose sole job is to make sure that the candidates for presidency meet the qualifications for it such as being born in this country, and a bunch of pompous non-nice individuals who think they know better will completely ignore the fact and say because they weren`t there at president obama`s birth so he must not be american. I know someone in the department of defense who had to get vetted and as a result doesn`t like going to her home town because they had multiple people asking around about her to strangers she went to highschool with as well as family friends(part of the vetting process) and now she feels awkward around them all. Donald Trump is the biggest moron in the universe and has offended me not only by his racist accusations but by suggesting that the people responsible for vetting the president did not do there job. drat You Sir!
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 11:58 am
    As I expected, Nothing controversial.

    I can only guess that he spent millions of dollars hiding it to make some people look like nuts.

    Now it`s over, let`s move along and discuss his current failures as president.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:02 pm
    Obviously photoshopped.
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    MountainBord Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:04 pm
    oh wow mama was a youngin
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    Monique_D Female 18-29
    33 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 12:05 pm
    Ironically the birth certificate Obama released three years ago is recognized for all legal purposes in the USA, while the original birth certificate released today is not.
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    MaximumTroll Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:08 pm
    LOL as expected The Internet`s Largest Homo can`t stop sucking rooster long enough to sound smart.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    How about the fact that it has been altered? Now why is that? Curiouser and curiouser as Alice misspoke http://market-ticker.org/post=185094

    Monique

    However the one he released originally can be acquired for someone not born in the USA.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:15 pm
    I can only guess that he spent millions of dollars hiding it to make some people look like nuts.
    ----------------
    Yeah he spent millions keeping it in his underwear drawer so people like you would look stupid. Fact is you can`t get a passport without birth certificate. Birthers wouldn`t know that. Hawaii had it on display for all tards to see. The people who refused to believe it were racists.
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    Demynted Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:16 pm
    So how much did Trump spend for his "researchers"? What? You can do a public records search for any birth/death/marriage certificate? Our species is doomed.
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:17 pm
    fake and gay
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    Monique_D Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:20 pm
    Sorry, randomxnp, that`s not correct. Try contacting the State of Hawaii and see if they`ll issue you a birth certificate for someone not born there.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:43 pm
    madest: I never doubted that he was born in the US, so once again you`re blowing your brains out your ass when you type.

    Also Hawaii did not have his `long form` birth certificate out for all to see, that`s a lie. What Hawaii had out for people to see was a computer print out. The long form original has been hidden away in a safe for years now.

    Let`s see if he releases his college records now, I won`t be holding my breath for that.

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    bubba83 Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    I dont care if he was born here or wasent born here, he is still the worst decision that this country ever made. And now the dumb sh it people that voted him in are crying about it, I am ashamed to call myself an american......
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    In related news: Trump cannot produce his certificate.
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:50 pm
    "What now, birthers?"

    Now `he` has to get off the basketball court.
    Now `he` has to reveal his college grades.

    Donald Trump is a full-on retard. He has been drinking the water over at Charlie Sheens house and consulting with the KKK. If you support Donald, you support ignorance and greed.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    r66tramp: He should get off the golf course too, Obama`s spent more time golfing in two years than GW did in 8 years.
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    fake and gay

    Yes, we know, we have already met you. Now please shut up.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    madest: Please tell me you aren`t a Trump `birther` now, especially after all the bullcrap accusations you`ve made at others here.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    "What now birthers"

    WAS HE WEARING HIS FLAG PIN WHILE BEING BORN?!
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    In my view, Obama has been a lunch bag let down. BUT in Obama`s defence, he took the helm at the worst possible time. I feel bad for all Americans that are suffering but at the same time so many of you are stinking filthy rich. The divide is growing between classes. Could be a revolution coming your way? Something has to give sooner or later?
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 1:00 pm
    "Clearly the morons who insisted Obama show his birth certificate have never had to get a passport. No surprise to me that birthers weren`t well traveled."

    I understand what you are trying to say, but let me explain something first. In the US Military, we don`t need passports for official Government business. All I need are military orders and I have been around the world in the last 14.5 years. Two more things: (1) Obama is our Commander In Chief and (2) ANYONE of any other country can join the US Military without being a citizen. This is little known fact, but true nontheless.

    I am not saying that Obama doesn`t need a passport to travel, but to me, it seems very unlikely that he would for official purposes. I mean, if I don`t... why would he? And if the Russian native (Non US Citizen) Marine I work with doesn`t... well...
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    urbanlegend Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    CrakrJak is just as retarded as Trump. "Derr, I never doubted, which even if I did I wouldn`t admit even if I did. But herrherr let me see him do this now derr."

    Child.
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    snunicycler Male 18-29
    87 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:02 pm
    Uh... Hasn`t his birth certificate been available for a while now? Like... before the election? I`m sure it was.
    I still don`t like him though
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    urbanlegend Male 18-29
    741 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:03 pm
    splurbyburbl, when do you think he started traveling? You think he`s like Palin, who never left the country until he was in the light? You think he hasn`t left the country until he became Senator?
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:05 pm
    "Yeah the nation is going to vote for republicans who are attempting to convince Americans our budget problems are caused by grandmas medicare and Social security checks. Because Americans inherently love insurance companies and wall street.


    duh..."

    And for the record, I am independant and not a birther. I just think all the fuss and time wasted on such a simple matter is ridiculous to say the least.
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
    674 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:06 pm
    "r66tramp: He should get off the golf course too, Obama`s spent more time golfing in two years than GW did in 8 years."

    If GW was half decent at golf, where do you think he`d have been?
  114. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:07 pm
    "splurbyburbl, when do you think he started traveling? You think he`s like Palin, who never left the country until he was in the light? You think he hasn`t left the country until he became Senator?"

    I don`t know... do you? I am just providing information. I mean... did you know military people don`t need a passport for official travel? Do you know if Obama ever had to leave the country for other than official business? I am simply asking questions.
  115. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 1:09 pm
    Crakr:

    Your entire debate methodology seems to be based around the premise that the average ass has more padding than the average foot.

    You already lost the debate on who has taken the most vacation. It was Bush.

    Seriously, debate over. So you`ve retreated, as you always do, to bizarre comparatives.

    AHA! But what percentage of that time off was spent specifically GOLFING?!

    Really? You`re gonna pretend you`re a free-thinking human being with free will and a non ass-to-mouth surgical attachment to Republican talking points when you`re regurgitating this poo?

    No sane human being independently picks that as a metric. None.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 1:15 pm
    @splurbyburbl, Clearly Obama had a passport at an early age or else he wouldn`t have been able to attend that madrassa in Indonesia where he trained to become a muslim sleeper cell terrorist...
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    dang007 Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 1:21 pm
    >>>BUT in Obama`s defence, he took the helm at the worst possible time. <<<


    this seems to be an odd way of defending someone....


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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:21 pm
    Baal: GW did spend a lot of time at his Crawford, TX ranch, It was nicknamed the `Western White House` for a reason, That`s because he also did a lot of work there. So what you are erroneously referring to as `vacation time` for GW was actually time spent at his ranch NOT on vacation.

    And BTW, Are you going to propose to know more about US politics, then I, when you live halfway around the world ? Sir, you are slurping up and regurgitating the regurgitation of liberal talking points yourself and doing it badly I might add.
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    davidildo123 Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 1:26 pm
    >>>BUT in Obama`s defence, he took the helm at the worst possible time. <<<

    And in Bush`s defence, he took the helm at the worst possible time also.

    ...and they both dropped the ball horribly.
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
    674 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:27 pm
    dang007, if you were declared captain of a sinking ship, what you do to save it? Would the crew blame you if it sank? Would the crew look back at the previous captain(s) that sailed her? Who sailed that ship into its peril?
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
    15511 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:27 pm
    America will pass to the history books as the one democratic country that elected a president not for their own country...
  122. Profile photo of r66tramp
    r66tramp Male 40-49
    674 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:31 pm
    davidxxx123...Bush cashed in on the peril of 911. It got him a famous flag raising speech in NY. Without 911 I think the Texan would not have made it to term 2. 911 gave Bush the power to spend tremendous amounts of tax payer money. He gave Americans a gigantic debt. Am I making this up?
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 1:35 pm
    Monique

    That is the point. It was not a birth certificate. It was a certificate of live birth.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:37 pm
    win
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    davidildo123 Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 1:38 pm
    r66tramp You make some good points, but there was more than just 9/11 that caused the deficit. Bush inherited a country that was facing some pretty large financial problems with the dot com bubble bursting. More money was spent and lost in those few years than in the history of America. We should have plunged into a huge recession after that.
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 1:38 pm
    BTW as an odd note; The `new` Canadian birth certs here look like highly encoded currency.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    davidildo123

    yes, indeed. Too many people forget that actual, genuine, small-government right wingers (conservative and libertarian) despair of GWB almost as much as Obama. Both had far too much faith in government solutions.
  128. Profile photo of r66tramp
    r66tramp Male 40-49
    674 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:41 pm
    "We should have plunged into a huge recession after that."

    You did! Your still in it now and in a worse way.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10441 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:46 pm
    I can only guess that he spent millions of dollars hiding it to make some people look like nuts.
    You mean like you? Hahaha!

    ... ahhh. I can`t do anything but laugh at this travesty of a post. Some of you are completely stupid.

    Not only does it not matter at all that we`ve seen this "birth certificate", it also does not matter one damn bit where he was born, what his religion is or what he does in his spare time so long as those things don`t interfere with his work.

    If he starts unfurling a prayer mat at staff meetings, THAT is when you step in. Not that you can, as your system highly ineffective at ousting corrupt officials.

    I fear for the future of your country.
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    davidildo123 Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 1:48 pm
    We did go into a recession that lasted less than a year, then climbed out of it for six years and fell back into one in 2007. The GDP declined less than .5% after the Dot Bomb. In 2007 it dropped over 4%.

    Less than 1 year after the collapse of the largest decade in history is pretty impressive. I do not give Bush any credit for the fact that it was small. As I said, he dropped the ball by trying to milk the economy for what he could instead of killing off the housing bubble when it started.
  131. Profile photo of cryingrose
    cryingrose Female 18-29
    57 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:48 pm
    which one is this the real one or the one the got made later
  132. Profile photo of Monique_D
    Monique_D Female 18-29
    33 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:49 pm
    randomxnp, it was and still is a real birth certificate.
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    davidildo123 Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 1:50 pm
    Whoops
    Less than 1 year after the collapse of the largest decade OF GROWTH in history
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    terracottus Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 1:51 pm
    Finally, although I can`t believe it was not planned to release it now and not 3 years ago
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
    2385 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:51 pm
    drat obama, drat the last guy drat the guy whos next. ive given up in politics its all just drated
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    Nlupu Male 18-29
    229 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:56 pm
    its a fake
  137. Profile photo of r66tramp
    r66tramp Male 40-49
    674 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 1:59 pm
    "housing bubble" Yeah I remember that one too, very well! Your corrupt Bush Gov gave banks new lending powers that never should have been.

    The banks in Canada were pulling on the same ropes too BUT the Canadian Gov(Chretien)said, "NO WAY MAN" and guess what? Our housing economy did not fold. Now we`re dangling on a thread and our biggest trading partner (USA) can`t even do good biz with us anymore. How long will Canada last before US economy pulls us under?
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    Dick_Head Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 1:59 pm
    Who the drat cares?
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
    3447 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 2:07 pm
    Oh, so he`s a Leo too? How nice.
  140. Profile photo of r66tramp
    r66tramp Male 40-49
    674 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 2:08 pm
    You people need to read The Shock Doctrine. All of you. It is a read that will bring you up to speed quickly. It is about the big bucks, who gets them and why. It has a nice little history recap in it. Give it a try at least.
  141. Profile photo of davidildo123
    davidildo123 Male 40-49
    143 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 2:10 pm
    >>>"housing bubble" Yeah I remember that one too, very well! Your corrupt Bush Gov gave banks new lending powers that never should have been<<<<

    IN 1997 Clinton lowered the amount people had to put down to get a house. It then became a "safe" investement
    In 1999 Clinton repealed the Glass Steagall act that split investment banking from Commercial banks. Whoops.
    Clinton also passed Gramm–Leach–Bliley act, which allowed commercial banks to mege with investment banks. This put all of the banks eggs in one basket. THis stuff was banned after the Great Depression for a reason.

    Bush didn`t shut it down when he had a chance, but it was started under Clinton.
  142. Profile photo of r66tramp
    r66tramp Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 2:41 pm
    davidildo123...From 2001 to 2006 interest rates lowered to compensate for the dot com bubble only to create the housing bubble. The Bush Gov should have prevented this and endured the economic slump longer.
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    deathbringer Male 18-29
    398 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 2:45 pm
    I stopped giving a drat after I learned McCain was born in Panama.
    Oh, wait. I never gave a drat.
  144. Profile photo of SuperOnion
    SuperOnion Male 18-29
    151 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 2:48 pm
    Just watch as the birthers begin to question "the validity" of it. It`s just a bunch of cranky old people looking for any reason to dislike Obama.
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    DShephard Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 2:53 pm
    That may have been the first time I`ve read Gynecological.

    And now that I have, I feel richer for the experience.
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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 2:57 pm
    its idiotic, who cares where he was born, he is black.
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    rogue_knight Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 3:03 pm
    It`s all a plot- this sets the premise of electing a foreign born president thus carving the way for Schwarzenegger. They even eluded to it the movie “The Expendables”- Sly tells Bruce Willis that Arnie wants to be president!
  148. Profile photo of OutWest
    OutWest Male 50-59
    546 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 3:10 pm
    lol.... Now what Birthers? Funny who gets blamed for this. As I remember it was the Clinton campaign that first broached this topic?

    I signed my grandson for little league this year, and I had to bring a copy of his birth certificate with me so they could make sure he was the right age and eligible. So why did it take so long for this be made clear? It cost me $15.00 and I took the certificate with me.

    We can now change punked to Trumped!

    Stupid Birthers.....LOL
  149. Profile photo of msieg007
    msieg007 Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 3:32 pm
    Oh sure, wait until you start campaigning for reelection to bring this out... Sitting at your mom`s house the whole time, right?
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    gingerlad95 Male 13-17
    67 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 4:10 pm
    good for you. you found his certificate of LIVE BIRTH. a certificate of live birth is not the same thing as a birth certificate. it just means that he`s human and not a robot or a clone. but then again i watch fox news and nascar and do what ever mr glenn beck tells me to do because the government is bad and wants to take away all my guns
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 27, 2011 at 4:20 pm
    They used the words "Caucasian" and "African" in 1961?
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    lyonartime Male 18-29
    260 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 4:23 pm
    shopped
  153. Profile photo of Monique_D
    Monique_D Female 18-29
    33 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 4:30 pm
    "They used the words "Caucasian" and "African" in 1961?"

    Of course not! Everyone knows those words didn`t exist until 1978! CONSPIRACY!!
  154. Profile photo of AngryYouth
    AngryYouth Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    Obama was born in Hawaii, Bush didn`t know about 9/11 before it happened, and we did land on the moon.
  155. Profile photo of moefreak
    moefreak Female 18-29
    1963 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 4:41 pm
    This is still a thing?
  156. Profile photo of Yap71
    Yap71 Male 30-39
    150 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 5:16 pm
    Whats with presidents with fathers of the same name? NOTE TO SELF: NAME FIRST CHILD "GAYLORD CRAPFACE" TO ENSURE SUCCESS.
  157. Profile photo of gothmo
    gothmo Female 18-29
    1324 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 5:41 pm
    @Yap

    .......a lot of males like to name their sons the same thing or after a family member if there`s a kind of "legacy" thing going on. I wouldn`t be surprised if there were more men in the family with the same names.
  158. Profile photo of frEbAsnSuga
    frEbAsnSuga Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 7:18 pm
    I most likely sound very dumb, but I thought he was born with a different name (can`t quite place it, Barry something...) and I also didn`t know that his father carried the same name he has now.
  159. Profile photo of Boredered
    Boredered Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2011 at 7:31 pm
    You don`t think the president can fake a birth certificate?
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    gegodfrey Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 8:40 pm
    pretty sure if the government fake a moon landing they can fake a birth certificate
  161. Profile photo of MCMXCIII
    MCMXCIII Male 18-29
    356 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 9:08 pm
    Well, people only believe what they choose to believe, regardless of evidence.
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:11 pm
    @frEbAsnSuga- No, he`s always said he was named after his father.

    Birthers- Yeah, of course the president "could" fake a birth certificate. But if you`re going around accusing Obama of not being a US citizen without any evidence whatsoever besides the supposed lack of a US birth certificate, and you`re then unwilling to accept the legitimacy of the birth certificate when it`s produced, then you`re either a total moron or a troll, which pretty much classifies you as a total moron anyway.
  163. Profile photo of sbeelz
    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 9:14 pm
    @5Cats- The word Caucasian has been around for a long time. When I was growing up, we had a textbook from the 19th century that used that term to refer to white people. And I`m pretty sure the word "African" has ALWAYS been used to refer to people born in Africa.
  164. Profile photo of Student_Law
    Student_Law Male 30-39
    1010 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 9:53 pm
    Obama must have been upset when the whole birthing thing started. It`s clearly racist, and i bet he has been very reluctant to giving in to racism and "releasing" his BC. Hence the long wait. It`s a valid argument for not releasing it. But in the end they had to give up. Not giving into racism is one thing. But when all the important messages drown, and you have an upcoming election, it must be more important to just end the debate.
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    gilmourw Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:18 pm
    He put up. Now shut up.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:36 pm
    Now your medical and education records please.
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    BRKNVLTR Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:38 pm
    @ sbeelz - I`m unwilling to accept the legitimacy of Obama as President... much less add value to a birth certificate that should have been produced "years" ago.
  168. Profile photo of sbeelz
    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:42 pm
    For what reason are you unwilling to accept his legitimacy as president? So far, I haven`t seen a shred of evidence that he was born in Kenya- just a bunch of wild speculation.
  169. Profile photo of sbeelz
    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2011 at 10:43 pm
    Holy sh*t you can tell it`s finals time- I`m posting way too much in far too many threads.
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    xbx214 Male 18-29
    958 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 10:44 pm
    Dude his mom was 18 when she was with his dad at 25... the drat?
  171. Profile photo of number43
    number43 Male 70 & Over
    759 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 10:52 pm
    How is it racist? It`s racist to assume that every time someone has a problem with Obama it`s because of his race. You`re the one bringing race into it.

    I had to give my birth cert to HR when I got my job. And I think a job where it clearly states you must be US born, should require some proof of that. It`s an issue because the guys father was from Kenya and he spent some of his childhood in Indonesia. And it`s come up again, because it`s almost election time.

    I, for one, believe he`s US born. But I also think it`s entirely legitimate to require proof of US birth. BTW the layered pdf doesn`t really help quell the issue either.
  172. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    April 27, 2011 at 11:31 pm
    davidildo: Bush administration auditors tried to shut it down in 2005, there are several videos on youtube detailing the vitriol democrats shown toward them, saying that there was nothing wrong with Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.

    Quite simply the auditors warnings were not heeded because the democrats were getting large campaign donations from the likes of Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, JP Morgan Chase, UBS, Morgan Stanley and others who benefited later from the bank bailouts.
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    OutWest Male 50-59
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    April 28, 2011 at 2:57 am
    Does Europe only get MSNBC?
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    Student_Law Male 30-39
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    April 28, 2011 at 4:14 am

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    Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:13:22 AM
    @number43:

    It`s not racist to demand a birth certificate from anyone wanting to become President.

    But when the man has repeatedely proven - and not just by him self, but by independent sources and officials from Hawaii, when people have even witnessed him as an infant in Hawaii, when he has been able to go through what must be a considerate process to even become a presidential candidate within the Democratic party, when in conclution there has been proven beyond all reasonable doubt that the man is legally American born - to still abuse the public with the foolish notion that a man who is born in a country consistent of immigrants` parents children still somehow is "unamerican"... THEN there would be nothing but pure ignorance to assume that it has nothing to do with the mans African heritage.
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    number43 Male 70 & Over
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    April 28, 2011 at 6:03 am
    @Student Law
    Again...I do believe he is a natural citizen.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 28, 2011 at 6:18 am
    Here`s the issue.

    Did he relinquish his US citizenship when he became a citizen of Indonesia? Did he get a scholarship to Occidental based on his Indonesian citizenship?

    We need medical and educational records as well. ALL elected officials are required to submit this, but due to oversight, he did not.
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    Student_Law Male 30-39
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    April 28, 2011 at 6:46 am
    @number43: I wasn`t adressing your conclution to the case. I was adressing your thoughts on racism.

    Except from the argument that people who speak up about it are the real "racists", by obvious reasons.

    But i have a feeling you knew that :p
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 28, 2011 at 6:58 am
    Just because people question/ed his citizenship, does not make them racist. The senate held hearings to confirm John McCain`s citizenship. Does that make then racist against Whites?
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    rogue_knight Male 40-49
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    April 28, 2011 at 7:59 am
    Thanks Obama now we can elect Arnold as president!
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 28, 2011 at 7:59 am
    @Rogue: That would be epic.
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    fivezones Male 40-49
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    April 28, 2011 at 8:07 am
    His mom is named Stanley. hehe
  182. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    April 28, 2011 at 9:53 am
    Just because people question/ed his citizenship, does not make them racist.
    No, it didn`t. But ignoring all the evidence that was previously provided and positing a conspiracy, just because he`s black, IS racist.

    How many white presidents have had their citizenship continually questioned for 3 years after their election?

    Normally, it gets checked as procedure and ignored. Because Obama is black, he had to make his short form birth certificate public and numerous doctors and nurses had to come out and say "yes I was there", and that STILL wasn`t enough.

    And, surprise surprise, the long form STILL isn`t enough for some people! He should have produced it earlier! Suspicious, eh? There don`t seem to be any flaws with it... which only proves he spent all this time perfecting the forgery!!


    Spare me.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 28, 2011 at 10:10 am
    almightybob: I think you are forgetting the fact that Obama`s Keyan grandmother said on camera that he was born in Kenya and was a muslim.

    So unless you`re willing to call his African grandmother racist, your point is moot.

    The same controversy would`ve sprang up against McCain for the fact that he was born in the Panama Canal Zone. Liberals, like madest, are already doubting Donald Trump`s BC.

    It had nothing to do with race, it had to do with eligibility.

    And once again I`ll state, I never believed that Obama was not born in Hawaii, but I do think it would be more informative, about his character, to see his college records released to the public.
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    Kougaiji Male 18-29
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    April 28, 2011 at 10:27 am
    "And once again I`ll state, I never believed that Obama was not born in Hawaii, but I do think it would be more informative, about his character, to see his college records released to the public. "

    Hahahahaha the levels of low that republitards will go to for a black president.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 28, 2011 at 12:59 pm
    Liberals throw out racism when they have no argument.
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    josebrwn Male 40-49
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    April 28, 2011 at 1:41 pm
    teabaggers generalize about liberals when they have no argument.
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    rikakitty Female 18-29
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    April 28, 2011 at 2:16 pm
    Not being a douche here, but out of serious curiosity, what exactly is it about Obama that makes his education less credible than say, George Bush, who, at times, struggled to form a legible sentence?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 28, 2011 at 2:42 pm
    Kougaiji: Obama promised to be to have, "The most transparent presidency ever". So far it`s been the most secret and dishonest of them all, Even Nixon wasn`t this bad.
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    boogalo Male 30-39
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    April 28, 2011 at 3:11 pm
    they will want to see the placenta and after birth.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    April 28, 2011 at 3:25 pm
    So unless you`re willing to call his African grandmother racist, your point is moot.
    No, but I`ll call her wrong.

    How many people stated on camera or in testimony that he was born in Hawaii? How many hospital staff confirmed it? How many officials say they had seen all the documentation they needed as proof? How many more are employed to do exactly that kind of legal checking task during any change in administration?

    How many 50-year-old newspaper microfilm archives have the birth announcement in them?


    Liberals throw out racism when they have no argument.
    I provided my argument as to why repeatedly ignoring overwhelming evidence for a black man`s citizenship while accepting without question a white man`s citizenship is racist. You can read it below.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    April 28, 2011 at 3:28 pm
    Liberals, like madest, are already doubting Donald Trump`s BC.
    Don`t you think they should? If it takes the publication of the long-form birth certificate to convince people that Obama is a US citizen, surely the public shouldn`t accept anything less from future candidates?

    Because to set the standard of proof at "long-form birth certificate" for the black guy, and then lower it for a white guy, is racist. Plain and simple.
  192. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 28, 2011 at 6:41 pm
    @5Cats- The word Caucasian has been around for a long time.
    I`m aware of that @sbeelz! It`s just that, on an "official" document they use offically approved words. Back in the day they said "white" and "negro" without any hint of prejudice. Using two `pc` terms in 1961 seems... odd? Out of place?

    vv @xbx214 not only that, but BHO Senior already had a wife back in Kenya.

    vv @StudentLaw you`re just telling lies now. There is NOT ONE person alive who witnessed BHO`s birth. That`s not conspiracy, it`s just plain fact. I doubt there`s anyone alive who witnessed MY birth either! (Mom was unconsious at the time, eh?)

    How many white presidents...
    @almightbob1, you`re so full of fail! ALL previous presidential candidates produced the required documents, ALL of them. NOT BHO! Thus, it must be RACE that seperates them!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 28, 2011 at 6:45 pm
    what exactly is it about Obama that makes his education less credible than say, George Bush
    @rikakitty: GWB released ALL his student stuff: SAT (1206 iirc) transcripts, thesis papers, the works!
    BHO used his lawyers to BLOCK all access to ANY of his records. NO SAT, no transcripts, no tehsis papers (even though they are supposed to be `public record` eh?)

    That`s the difference. Not `race` but `what`s he hiding` - the most transparent PotUS evah!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 28, 2011 at 6:51 pm
    How many hospital staff confirmed it? A: zero
    How many officials say they had seen all the documentation they needed as proof? A: zero

    How many 50-year-old newspaper microfilm archives have the birth announcement in them?
    -because it`s IMPOSSIBLE for Grandma, or even Mom herself, to have placed that notice 4 days after he was born, disregardless of where he was born, it`s simply IMPOSSIBLE!

    while accepting without question a white man`s citizenship is racist.
    EXCEPT: you FAILED to actually provide any `white men` who recieved the free ride BHO got: to whit: you`ve proven the OPPOSITE of racism. ALL other PotUS candidates were vetted, ALL of them. The freaking SENATE held an investigation into MacCain`s eligibility.

    You`re delusional to think `race` has anything to do with it, or that you`ve "provided evidence" of anything.
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    pyrrhios Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2011 at 12:12 am
    Wow. 5Cats is nuts.
  196. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    April 29, 2011 at 2:45 am
    How many hospital staff confirmed it? A: zero
    How many officials say they had seen all the documentation they needed as proof? A: zero

    Unsurprisingly, you`re wrong 5Cats. The Hawaii State Health Director, Chiyome fudgeino, said back in 2008 that she had personally seen and verified Obama`s birth certificate.

    -because it`s IMPOSSIBLE for Grandma, or even Mom herself, to have placed that notice 4 days after he was born, disregardless of where he was born, it`s simply IMPOSSIBLE!
    1. Disregardless isn`t a word.
    2. Pretty lucky that they thought "I know, we`ll post a birth notification in the paper saying he was born in Hawaii, JUST IN CASE he later runs for president." Come on man, that`s a pathetic argument.
  197. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    April 29, 2011 at 2:47 am
    you FAILED to actually provide any `white men` who recieved the free ride BHO got
    You`re right, my apologies. Here they are:

    Every other president who proved his citizenship to the government legal minds as part of the necessary red tape before becoming president, and was never forced to produce his birth certificate.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 29, 2011 at 6:18 am
    "Every other president who proved his citizenship to the government legal minds as part of the necessary red tape before becoming president, and was never forced to produce his birth certificate."

    The problem is, every other president has had to. Technically, the first 15 or 20 probably didn`t, but since then they must release their medical records, birth records, and educational transcripts. Barry did none of this. He still has not released his medical, or educational.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 29, 2011 at 7:35 pm
    @Almightybob1 Every person who ran for Prez OR Vice-Prez in the 20TH century provided all the documents. Period. Find one who didn`t.

    BHO didn`t, it`s a fact, not a `racist opinion`. Even if he produces it now it`s STILL a fact.

    MacCain did
    Bush did
    Clinton did
    Al Gore did
    & etc.

    If that health director person saw it in 2008, why couldn`t the Governer of Hawaii find any trace of it in 2011? Riddle me that!
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    PierreJeanFR Male 40-49
    1360 posts
    April 30, 2011 at 5:39 am
    are you all still here, voaw you need to get laid...
    Auburnjunk and 5cats by a big black guy.
    And i want a mental health certificate for donald Trump.
  201. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33070 posts
    April 30, 2011 at 6:42 am
    OH? Just me and AJ? What about almightybob? What about pyrrhois? Don`t they need gay sex too?

    Also: YOU`re still here JeanPierre, here`s $5 go rent yourself a big black guy and have a nice little rape-roleplay yourself! (ps: isn`t that just a tad racists? and homophobic? are all black guys `big`? Do all black guys like raping whites? Sounds mightily racist to me...)

    (and disregardless is too a word: I just used it!)

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