Animals Are People (That We Can Eat)

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 6 years ago in Entertainment

Maddox gives his views on Vegetarianism and PETA. So whats your thoughts IAB...pro PETA or do you get your meat on?
There are 88 comments:
Female 208
I`ve been a vegetarian since I was 12 years old. Not once have I ever related them to humans, and I never will. I have much more intelligent argument than that. I mind my own business about my own diet unless someone asks me, unlike PETA.
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Male 371
I hate PETA so goddamn much I refuse to eat pita bread.
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Male 2,850
@Angilion

You got caught out being dumb, and you`re trying to back peddle to cover yourself. And in doing so, you end up looking even dumber.
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Male 12,365
@Musuko42

It`s not my fault that you don`t know enough about vegetarians or vegans. Your definitions are wrong. Why don`t you go to a vegan or vegetarian site and educate yourself rather than continuing to be wrong?

Here, I`ll help you:

Vegan: Does not use any animal product in any way. It is *not* limited to eating. For example, a vegan will not wear leather shoes.

Vegetarian: Various subsets. Some will not eat any animal products (but might still use animal products in other ways, like those leather shoes). Some will not eat animal flesh but will eat other animal products. They are often referred to as lacto-ovo vegetarians. Some vegetarians will eat fish but not land animals, which seems like an odd distinction to make.

You`re criticising me for being right because you don`t know enough about the subject to know that you`re wrong.

That makes me laugh.

At you.
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Female 673
Wow, honestly didn`t know people still cared about Maddox. I stopped caring about him in 2005.

I`m going to say what i always do on topics like this. I`m a vegetarian. I hate PETA. They`re a bunch of hypocritical, brainwashing, idiots. I think people should have the right to choose their own diets, which is why I don`t try to tell people that vegetarianism is a "superior" diet. I also hate it when people try to convince me that vegetarianism is wrong. No diet is superior to the other. Eating meats has just as many benefits as not eating meat.
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Male 2,855
i bet theres going to be an app to stop asteroids pretty soon
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Female 3,001

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Male 2,850
@Angilion

"Not all VEGETARIANS are lacto-ovo VEGETARIANS. LActo-ovo VEGETARIAN is a subset of VEGETARIAN."

Vegetarians don`t eat animal flesh.
Vegans don`t eat any animal products.

You were talking about vegans, and you know it.

You got caught out being dumb, and you`re trying to back peddle to cover yourself. And in doing so, you end up looking even dumber.

It`s pretty funny, actually.
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Male 12,365
@Musuko42:

Not all VEGETARIANS are lacto-ovo VEGETARIANS. LActo-ovo VEGETARIAN is a subset of VEGETARIAN. Since you and Mildcorma were talking about VEGETARIANS without any qualification about what kind of VEGETARIAN you were referring to, I took it as a general reference that covered all VEGETARIANS. If you only meant to refer to some VEGETARIANS, you should have said so.
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Male 2,402
Hey I like this guy. I have to tune in.
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Male 2,850
@BRKNVLTR

"You have CANINE teeth for a reason... you are supposed to eat meat"

Capable of =/= supposed to.
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Male 2,850
@Angilion

You can get B12 from dairy. So while this is a problem for vegans, it is not for vegetarians; and the statement from Mildcorma was:

"Long story short: If being a VEGETARIAN provided you with everything you needed, then supplements wouldn`t be required." (capitalisation emphasis mine).

Vegetarians don`t need suppliments for B12 if they are eating dairy, and it was vegetarians that Mildcorma and I were talking about, not vegans.
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Male 1,237
Obviously animals aren`t people, but as a meat eater who recently watched "Meat Video: What the meat industry doesn`t want you to see", I am seriously off meat for a while o.o Meat Video
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Male 12,138
[quote]P - Pathetically
E - Emaciated
T - Troublesome
A - non-nice individuals [/quote]
Last line, swear filter pwnage. Sorry about that.
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Male 307
I was debating submitting this, glad to see someone else did.

Also glad Maddox finally has posted a video after -what- half a year?
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Male 734
People
Eating
Tasty
Animals
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Male 1,010
If animals are people, and people are animals, and most my physical features tell me i`m carnivore it means i can eat people too :-)
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Male 377
P - Pathetically
E - Emaciated
T - Troublesome
A - non-nice individuals
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Male 377
Eating animals is just dumb and wrong... unless done with A-1 Steak Sauce! Ha! Dummies.. You have CANINE teeth for a reason... you are supposed to eat meat. I ain`t never seen anyone with freaking horse teeth. Also, the Son of God ate meat so I think if if critters are good enough for God`s boy to eat... pass me some lamb chops! NOM! NOM! NOM! AMEN...
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Male 2,868
This was funny as fcuk. But a serious point- animals might not be people, but there`s no reason to believe that they don`t suffer pain the same as people. I`m not against eating meat, but the animals we eat do deserve to be treated humanely.
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Male 437
"Who have fought more wars than probably any country on Earth and won most of them. Can you find any example of the French surrendering other than WW2?"

The last time the French won a war was in the 18th century... and that is only because their enemy was also French. Just sayin.
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Male 356
PETA is just a company trying to sell its products, which I won`t buy.
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Female 1
OK, wait, if animals are people, too, then how come we can`t drat em? Crude, but valid?
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Male 12,365
[quote]Apply the mind telling us we`re in danger, and we started to run from things, and got really good at running for a long time. This evolved into the french.[/quote]

Who have fought more wars than probably any country on Earth and won most of them. Can you find any example of the French surrendering other than WW2? That was down to a political failure, not a military one. Many French soldiers who could make the journey retreated to Britain and joined the British military to carry on fighting. Large numbers of French people worked for the resistance, either undercover (and under constant threat of torture and death) or openly where geography made it possible (the Maquis).
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Male 12,365
[quote]Suppliments AREN`T required, if you eat right.[/quote]

No matter how well you eat, you need either animal products or supplements. At the very least, you need them for B12. Which is essential for life.

You can get it from the dung of some animals in some circumstances, which I guess is probably an acceptable animal product for a vegetarian, but personally I`d prefer supplements.

B12 supplements are made by bacteria in factory labs, so even a vegan should be able to accept that.

Someone is bound to say that B12 is in brewer`s yeast. Sure it is - when the manufacturers put it there.

The rest, yes, you can get from even a vegan diet if you know what you`re doing and you take enough care (though calcium in particular will be a problem), but there are no vegetable sources of B12 usable to humans. Unless a cow has pooped on them.
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Male 61
This guy is hilarious
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Male 1,193
I`m no animal rights activists, but what about the 99% of people who are just as dumb as animals and wouldn`t be able to do poo if an asteroid shows up. They get to do whatever the hell they want?
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Male 406
Darn it, i got cut off...
but yes anyways

(S)He`s so self righteous that they don`t even eat! Take that you dirty vegans and vegetarians!"
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Male 406
@Mukuso42

""Also, a fun fact is that our incisors are really awesomely good for insects and other critters with exoskeletons."

Wouldn`t it be canines that do that? Incisors are best for cutting, not peircing. "

False sir. Canines are good for the grip, rip, and tear. Incisors help with this but if you ever look at them you notice that they have a flat, narrow, long surface on which they meet if you teeth are properly aligned. This is seen is many animals that mainly eat insects. It appears that it is quite useful to separate a tough shell by being able to apply force concentratedly on the weak spots or joints.

"Why not just starve?"

That`s somewhat in poor taste, considering how many people in the world are doing exactly that."

They`re sticking it to the man. People look at a starving ethiopian and thing "awe that`s tragic!". I look at a starving ethiopian and think "Holy hell! (S
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Male 2,850
@schecter5

"Secondly, the fact that we have molars which are good for grinding down bits of plants makes it an option, not a requirement, right?"

Correct. You can live entirely on meat and/or other animal-sourced foods if you so desired. Some cultures do exactly that.

"Also, a fun fact is that our incisors are really awesomely good for insects and other critters with exoskeletons."

Wouldn`t it be canines that do that? Incisors are best for cutting, not peircing.

"Why not just starve?"

That`s somewhat in poor taste, considering how many people in the world are doing exactly that.
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Male 2,850
@MildCorma

"Long story short: If being a vegetarian provided you with everything you needed, then supplements wouldn`t be required."

Suppliments AREN`T required, if you eat right.
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Female 1,203
hahahahahaha this was great. I hate PETA simply because they are way too extreme. I don`t mind at all if people chose to be vegetarians or whatever, and I LOVE animals! but PETA...come on! They are using sex now to sell their ads because so few people even pay attention to them! hahaha that is sad! I love meat, by the way...I could never be a vegetarian. but I also eat it in moderation because meat alone is not healthy. Follow the diets of the early Hunter Gatherers or indigenous tribes, they primarily eat vegetables, fruits and beans but when they do get meat OH MAN is it gooooooood ;D
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Male 2,850
@MildCorma

I couldn`t let the "yo" slip by unchallenged.

"data collected over the last few decades that conclusively prove an all-vegetarian diet cannot provide you with the sustainable nutrients you get naturally from meat"

The smartarse answer to that: then where did the herbivorous animals from which we get the meat get the nutrients?

The real answer to that: everything you get from meat you can get from other sources; just not always as efficiently (but in equal measure, often more healthily).
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Male 41,116
[quote]If animals are people to, and animals <EAT> each other... why cant we?[/quote]
fify @Tisjokar!
I didn`t see your post before I ranted about cannibals. I`m actually thinking you mean why can`t WE eat ANIMALS since animals eat each other, right?
I have a sneaking suspicion that PETA would force every predator on Earth to eat tofu...
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Male 406
@Musuko42

Firstly, if you believe in evolution.. We actually have been made to do a lot of cool things. Higher cognitive processing is one of them. Apply that to an innate hunger drive, we get hunting and farming. Apply the mind telling us we`re in danger, and we started to run from things, and got really good at running for a long time. This evolved into the french.

Now if you believe in creation... Dammit, god, why didn`t he give us manuals?

Secondly, the fact that we have molars which are good for grinding down bits of plants makes it an option, not a requirement, right? Also, a fun fact is that our incisors are really awesomely good for insects and other critters with exoskeletons. But hey, you don`t have to eat it. In fact, you sir seem to have pointed a good option out. Why not just starve? Eating is a choice! Don`t be a slave to what the "food eating evil government man" has to say. Starve yourself and be different :D

Note: this cont
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Male 496
Long story short: If being a vegetarian provided you with everything you needed, then supplements wouldn`t be required.
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Male 41,116
Humans are food too!
BUT: -cultures that allowed cannibalism generally went extinct a looooong time ago.
-there`s a few nasty-bad diseases that could be transmitted through cannibal practices, thus wiping out whole tribe of cannibals in one dinner.

So that is why few creatures commit cannibalism, and we humans avoid it.
Eating OTHER animals is fine though!
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Male 985
If animals are people to, and animals each each other... why cant we?
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Male 496
@Lazyme484

Sorry, to provide a little more explanation:

A lot of vegetarians experience deficiencies in zinc, calcium, Vitamin D, Iron, Vitamin B-12, and protein thanks to their diet, which requires supplements to be taken to ensure balanced nutrition. People that enjoy a balanced diet with meat and vegetables get these nutrients from meat. The main problem is protein as it can`t really be provided by supplement alone, which is why vegetarians are usually much thinner and leaner than people that enjoy a balanced diet. Also, carnivores digestive tracts are short whereas animals that eat grass etc have long tracts to digest the harder fibrous vegetation better. Humans have a mixture, so whilst we can digest vegetables we don`t get as much benefit as we do from eating both meat and veg.
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Male 10,440
[quote] an all-vegetarian diet cannot provide you with the sustainable nutrients you get naturally from meat [/quote]
In defense of the vegetarians, If this was true then vegetarians would be unfit or deprived in some way. I haven`t read the studies but what you say contradicts observation.
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Male 10,440
@Musuko42

You must be one of those non-crazy vegetarians. I think we can get along.

Although I think your meat-chocolate analogy is faulty. Meats do contain significant nutritional content.
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Male 496
*several studies.

This is the truth, yo, and i`ll say it however I want

u mad? lol
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Male 496
@Musuko42

I was reading your post with actual conviction, then I noticed you had a dig at me for saying "yo" and I realised I must be dealing with a real intellectual superpower ^^.

I liked how you can`t let anything slip by, sorry if that offends you, let me put it another way:

Vegetarians are going against scientific studies and data collected over the last few decades that conclusively prove an all-vegetarian diet cannot provide you with the sustainable nutrients you get naturally from meat. Sure, we have a choice, but we are omnivores so have evolved to incorporate this into our society. Meat is good for you, so are vegetables, and just like a diet consisting entirely of meat is bad for you, so is a diet consisting entirely of vegetables. It`s a healthy balance that`s required, not either extreme. This is why vegetarians will never get exactly what they need naturally, and why being "antsy" has been linked to vegetarianism in serve
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Male 2,850
My statement of position:

I`m vegetarian. I happily share the dinner table with friends and family who eat meat, and I cook meat for guests. It doesn`t disgust me. It doesn`t offend me. It doesn`t upset me. I have no difficulty in eating meat whatsoever. I just choose not to do it.

Why some people get so uppity about vegetarians and vegans, I just don`t know. Do you scream and rant at people who don`t like to eat chocolate? Do you threaten to eat two chocolate bars for every bar they don`t eat? Do you scrounge for biological justification to imply that we`re "made" to eat chocolate, and how dare they express a personal choice rather than obey your idea of what they are "designed" to do?

In any case, forget the argument. It`s pointless. With the human population still rising, and food supply struggling ever more to keep up, we may find ourselves all priced out of uneconomical food sources like meat.
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Male 2,850
@MildCorma

The "we`re made to eat meat" argument isn`t valid.

Firstly, we weren`t "made" for anything. We don`t have a design specification we have to live up to.

Secondly, having the ability to do something does not mean that you must do something. The fact we have canines in our mouth means that eating meat is an option for us, not a requirement.

Thirdly, don`t say "yo". You`re not a "gangsta".
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Male 6,098
Why not:
People have hearts and dogs have hearts therefore people are dogs?
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Male 496
I actually just remembered one of my favourite things of all time...

Why do we eat cows? Because they are slow and stupid. Cheetahs could taste like chocolate cocaine, but they`re really fast :D
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Male 496
I see a lot of this Jamesboxxy guy on this thread, this video piss him off or something? Lol :D

Mate chill out, he`s not being serious but you can`t deny facts:

1. We are the dominant species on this planet
2. Humans aren`t made to only eat vegetables (teeth are all wrong yo, go check it out)
3. Animals are food because that`s the way it goes. If we had evolved to not eat meat, then we wouldn`t be having this conversation.

As he said, they taste so good! How could we not eat animals?
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Male 7,839
ikeray, i did, i believe they said we tasted like pig. this would make sense seeing as we are so physiologically similar. I guess this means, that we are delicious.
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Male 1,595
Animals have souls, and I see them as people.

Delicious delicious people.
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Male 10,440
YEAAHH! Maddox is awesome.

I pretty much agreed with every last bit of what was said, including the simcity4 thing.
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Male 768
meh, if its okay for other animals to eat meat then it is okay for me too. The only problem I have with meat eating is the way in which animals are killed and kept, eg battery hens.
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Male 311
The only things I will not eat are animals that seem to have some sort of personality, which extends to cats, dogs, and some humans. People argue for rabbits, but let`s face it, they twitch their noses and if it weren`t for bugs bunny then they`d be screwed as well. People who feel sorry for cows and chickens are nuts, and dolphins - your safe for now, but just barely...

(I will say that I don`t like yogurt and mushrooms cuz I don`t much care for eating "colonies" of stuff)
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Male 112
peta blows, I was a fuucked up fruit eater for a couple years because of a girl and i hated it.
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Female 1,101
I could hardly pay attention to this guys obvious arguments, he`s so sick and sweaty looking!

Animals may not be people. They`re obviously not, but we should treat them respectfully. They can feel pain and they DO have feelings. Which is why I eat humanely raised meat and dairy. I don`t want to eat a chicken that spent its whole life sitting in it`s own feces because it`s too crowded for it to stand, so it just sits there being chronically overfed. That bird is stressed out and nowhere near as tasty as a humanely raised bird.
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Male 233
animals =/= people
but
animal =/= object either.
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Female 4,489
also, tigers, bears, lions, polar bears, wolves and other large predetors would not hesitate to find us very delicious indeed!
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Female 4,489
animals are not people, animals are animals. people are people. people, however, are animals.
but he has a good point about animals not doing s hit to save the planet.
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Male 233
@startech
use your brain.Animals can feel pain and joy.why does we have pets?would you kill your pet and be at ease because he is not people.
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Male 235
@jamesboxy:
animals =/= people
jamesboxy = idiot
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Male 233
@wheresmyskul
well actually i feel sorry for you if you think that was absolute truth.
the reasons given in video are full of flawed logic and lack of any serious thinking.
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Male 233
lets kill all the endangers species cause they are not building sh*t.
Also when you see some stranger dying on road , just ignore it and move on because he is not providing you any sh*t
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Male 247
@ madduck:

You cannot even begin to understand what a load of absolute truth this is. You may be a vegetarian, but at least put forward sensible reasons for it.
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Male 63
@drips
Actually it is our development of agriculture that enabled the development of large populations, which lead to culture, which lead to where we are today.

In fact Neanderthals, evolved with larger brains,and only ate meat, they became extinct and we survived.

But who cares? I love tasty animals, and I like many vegetarians. Do we really need to be so sensitive that we hate each other because of our diets?
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Male 25,416
That was stupid
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Male 233
So in future just because we can save this planet from asteroid,we can treat or kill animals in any way.Also should parents be allowed to abuse or kill their children because in future they are going to save and feed him and because of them he will survive.
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Male 69
LOVE IT
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2,888
i thought he was funny when i was in high school, im kinda over the whole thing now.
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Male 247
Meh. Animals are not "people too". Animals are animals. People are people. Most people eat animals, because they are delicious, and provide nutrition. PETA can do what they want, vegetarians and vegans can do what they want...AS LONG AS THEY DON`T PUSH THEIR MISGUIDED BS ON ME!!! Whew! There!
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Male 233
It`s not all about utility, it`s about compassion.
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Male 328
@madduck

We don`t have to. Stop giving a f***
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Female 8,118
I cannot even begin to explain what a load of specious crap this is. You may not be a vegetarian, but at least put forward sensible reasons for it.
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Male 2,422
If any PETA member wants to switch places with my steak I`m sure we can come to an arrangement.
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Male 2,703
@cobrakiller:

you didn`t watch the video with Piers Gibbon did you?
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Male 2,703
"Maddox"

what is this, 2001?

"asteroid wiped out the dinosaurs"

great job public education
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Male 7,839
honestly, i bet people are delicious too.
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Male 40,247

I`ve never met a conservative PETA person.
Is it mandatory to be oober-liral to be that dumb?
They wouldn`t dare harm an animal but abort babies left and right.... makes no sense at all.
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Male 153
Personally I don`t see why we can`t eat babies as well. They can`t do math or build poo. MMMMM baby soup!
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Male 17,511
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Male 116
This guy is hilarious. And totally right.
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Male 59
If animals are people too and that is why we shouldn`t eat them, then why are those "people" allowed to eat other "people"? Why is a lion allowed to chase down a gazelle and rip to to shreds with its teeth? Why is a cat allowed to catch a mouse, snap its spine, and proceed to play with it like a toy? I just don`t understand the "logic".
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Female 4,039
That would be so cool if cats saved the world from an astroid.
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Female 2,525
People still care about what Maddox says?
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Male 552
*slow clap*
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Male 6,693
I love to eat baby cows, chicken and fish. Oh. and BACON. I love me some BACON !
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Male 163
lmao maddox!!
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Male 904
All I can say is that humans wouldn`t be where we are as a species if our ancestors weren`t meat eaters.
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Female 8,043
Link: Animals Are People (That We Can Eat) [Rate Link] - Maddox gives his views on Vegetarianism and PETA. So whats your thoughts IAB...pro PETA or do you get your meat on?
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