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94 Responses to Wikileaks Soldier Faces New Charges, Aiding Enemy

  1. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:05 am
    Link: Wikileaks Soldier Faces New Charges, Aiding Enemy - Of the 22 new charges is ``aiding the enemy`` which holds the death penalty. Hope it was worth it, Pvt. Bradley Manning.
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    donthaveone Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:13 am
    Make an example out of him :)..... where`s my rope?
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 9:14 am
    any last words?
  4. Profile photo of Laynard
    Laynard Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:15 am
    "It`s beyond ironic that leaked U.S. State Department cables have contributed to revolution and revolt in dictatorships across the Middle East and North Africa, yet an American may be executed, or at best face life in prison, for being the primary whistleblower," said Jeff Patterson of Courage to Resist.

    How does leaking our information help those people realize their own governments are crap? This guys a traitor, bottom line. It`s a volunteer army, and if he doesn`t agree with what`s happening, he shouldn`t have enlisted.

    And - what`s "beyond ironic?" Either it`s ironic or it`s not. It`s like "sorta pregnant."
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:16 am
    oops. Prolly should have thought that out a little better.
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    fiizok Male 40-49
    591 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 9:20 am
    "Hope it was worth it, Pvt. Bradley Manning."

    Why bother with a trial? Gerry1of1 says he`s guilty.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:21 am

    Steeling your gov`s secrets = Treason {in time of war in this case}

    Steeling/Receiving/Distributing other gov`s secrets = Espionage. String up Julian Assange with Manning


  8. Profile photo of Agent00Smith
    Agent00Smith Male 18-29
    2581 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 9:22 am
    Viva la resistance!
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    Handsompod Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:22 am
    And - what`s "beyond ironic?" Either it`s ironic or it`s not. It`s like "sorta pregnant."

    Or "A bit dead"
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    wake_n_bake Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:28 am
    what a tool
  11. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:30 am
    Court Marshall/firing squad. Quick and easy.
  12. Profile photo of elHadji
    elHadji Male 70 & Over
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:33 am
    So, stepping over the line to uncover the truth is punishable by death?

    Keep it classy, America.
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    belunan Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:35 am
    Give him a fair trial and wait for a conviction before you string him up. Remember Richard Jewell?
  14. Profile photo of Reignblazer
    Reignblazer Male 18-29
    2334 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 9:41 am
    Ah yes, government gets upset because someone had the guts to hang up all their dirty laundry.

    That`s right kids, honesty is punishable by death.

    What`s even more astonishing is not only do you americans apparently not care that your government keeps poo from you, you actually defend it. LOL
  15. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:41 am

    History In The Making !

    Auburnjunky and I agree on something !

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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 9:48 am
    wow elhadji, lol , glad you arent an American, we have enough morons like you here already
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 9:49 am
    that goes for you too reignblazr
  18. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:51 am
    [email protected]:

    To all those that disagree.

    Treason is punishable by death, and Soldiers do not have rights like citizens do.

    It is an all volunteer military. If they didn`t want those consequences, they wouldn`t have joined.
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    mega_luis15 Male 18-29
    388 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 9:51 am
    him and assange deserve a medal for what they did... not punishment...
  20. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:52 am
    They deserve a medal for putting American lives in danger. Riiiiiiiight.
  21. Profile photo of Laynard
    Laynard Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:55 am
    Hey Reignblazer and other Europeans - how would you feel if a terrorist crashed a plane into your precious Eiffel Tower or London Bridge? Have tea and crumpets, or try and protect your country? It`s not about the US government keeping secrets from US citizens, it`s the US keeping secrets from the rest of the world, and that`s what pisses you off. If you are unaware of US history, we have a saying, "Unite or die."
  22. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:58 am
    "stepping over the line to uncover the truth is punishable by death"

    Treason is, yes.

    But there are legal and peacefull ways to change goverment and gov-policies without resorting to treason.

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    Avalessa Female 13-17
    491 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 9:59 am
    Shut up, Reignblazer. Just because some Americans support him doesn`t mean all of us support him. Nor does it mean we like the fact that the government hides stuff from us. However, ignorance is bliss for neurotic people like me even though I want to know what the government has to hide. Also, a lot of Americans don`t choose to be in America. A lot of us are still minors, you know.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2011 at 10:05 am
    "alot of Americans dont choose to be in America, alot of us are stil minors" thats funny POO right there, i know your just a kid but thats too funny
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 10:07 am
    "alot of Americans dont choose to be in America, alot of us are stil minors"

    WOW.
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 10:09 am
    how many secret documents does a pvt 1st class really have access to? I am interested to hear also, how they traced it back to him.
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    Handsompod Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 10:17 am
    Laynard, how about you read up on the IRA. We`ve been dealing with terrorists for years. I don`t think tea and crumpets is an effective counter measure or a valid argument.
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2011 at 10:17 am
    If you are brave enough to do the right thing despite it being illegal, you should be brave enough to face the consequences of breaking the law.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 10:19 am
    HEAR HEAR RICK! It is questionable on whether or not it is the right thing though.
  30. Profile photo of elHadji
    elHadji Male 70 & Over
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    March 3, 2011 at 10:19 am
    "Hey Reignblazer and other Europeans - how would you feel if a terrorist crashed a plane into your precious Eiffel Tower or London Bridge?"

    A good start would be to invade the right country.
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    hatface Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 10:22 am
    @elHadji

    Haha, nice. ZING!
  32. Profile photo of Laynard
    Laynard Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 10:26 am
    @Handsompod- A little Ad Hominom never hurt anybody. :) Sorry about the IRA though. The truth is that terrorism sucks, and regardless of where you are, it can effect you.
    And I just want to mention that America was founded by people who left an oppressive government...in Europe.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2011 at 10:32 am
    "Hey Europeans - how would you feel if a terrorist crashed a plane into your precious Eiffel Tower or London Bridge?"

    The London Bridge is in Arizona, not europe.

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    Fuego Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2011 at 10:45 am
    vvv I think he meant Tower Bridge, but whatever.
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    tn11 Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 10:53 am
    Gerry- These people don`t know poo, do they? The Eiffel Tower is in Las Vegas, morons.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2011 at 11:06 am

    tn11 SCORES ! ha!
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    austin1 Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 11:31 am
    Kill him. Make a point
  38. Profile photo of Volsunga
    Volsunga Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 11:55 am
    He needs to be made an example of. The documents he released to Wikileaks could have put a lot of people in danger. Luckily the editors there had the good sense to censor the names of informants and spies out of most of the documents.
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    Jayno Male 18-29
    176 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 11:58 am
    "According to the Army, if Manning is convicted of all of the charges he could face life in prison, plus reduction in pay grade to the lowest enlisted pay, a dishonorable discharge and loss of all pay and allowances."

    Is is a reduction or loss of pay? Do you need to do both? Seems redundant.
  40. Profile photo of Kougaiji
    Kougaiji Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 12:05 pm
    There was not "tracing back to him". The government has pretty much no evidence but you try being in solitary confinement for 8 months without charge or trial. Most people are no longer mentally healthy after far less time, to assume he`s mentally stable enough to stand trial let alone not just confess to anything just to get out is insane. If he is charged with "Aiding The Enemy" for revealing coverups of murders of children and innocent civilians, of child prostitution for the business elites, then who the hell is "the enemy" because the good guys aren`t doing their job.
  41. Profile photo of Volsunga
    Volsunga Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    @kougaiji
    That has to be the most uninformed rant on Wikileaks I`ve seen outside of 4chan. Of course they traced it back to him. All activity is passively monitored on SIPRNet. Tracing back to him is just a matter of seeing who was logged in at the time the files were downloaded at that computer. As for the leaks themselves, have you even read any of them? I`ve been reading them every few days since they started releasing and I`ve not come across anything like you say is there. Neither, apparently, has the news media which would jump on stories like those in a heartbeat. There hasn`t been anything damning at all to the US in the whole of the leaks. The only one that comes close is Clinton`s authorization to "spy" on UN delegates (which was really just gathering enough information to make sure the delegates weren`t spies themselves).
  42. Profile photo of duffytoler
    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    Despots! This one guy has done more for transparent democracy in a few months than the entire Fox network has done in the whole of its miserable, hateful existence.
  43. Profile photo of Student_Law
    Student_Law Male 30-39
    1010 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 12:36 pm
    Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot.. they all used them... the generalization- laws that usually sounds something like "a threat to the reich" or "putting the safety of the state" at risk. The point is that no sane, constitutionally based law can be used to shut up those who reaveal the crimes of regimes. He is a little "pain in the ass" that has to be shut up by the perpetrators and this is the only way to do it.
  44. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    Soldiers do not have rights like citizens do.

    Irrelevant. It would make no difference if it was a civilian doing the work.

    Not entirely true either.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 12:52 pm
    Right Cajun, but that wasn`t the point.

    Someone was talking about being held without trial, and things such as that. Soldiers don`t have the right to speedy trial.

    "They are here to preserve democracy, not practice it." Geme Hackman -- Crimson Tide lol
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    HalfSandwich Male 18-29
    145 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 12:54 pm
    @duffytoler:
    "This one guy has done more for transparent democracy in a few months than the entire Fox network has done in the whole of its miserable, hateful existence."

    When attacking Fox don`t forget the racist, lying, fascist, and dangerous aspects of that evil organization.
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    Give him three to five in Leavenworth and be done with it. He committed a crime and has to pay for it, but life in prison or death is an untenable position for the government to take politically, even if it is technically within the law to do so. I thin it would create more problems than it solves for the military in the long run by turning public opinion against it (the military recently polled as the most trusted American institution) for being perceived by the people as heavy-handed. Better to get a deal than have a trial where the defense can attack that credibility and undermine the support of the people. Just my opinion, obviously.
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    knight3000 Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2011 at 12:59 pm
    elHadji "A good start would be to invade the right country."

    The US did attack the right country it is called Afghanistan. Iraq was attacked for a different reason.
  49. Profile photo of Kougaiji
    Kougaiji Male 18-29
    604 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 1:30 pm
    Volsunga, are you blind?
    Yes I have read those leaks.
    On Child Prostitution
    http://bit.ly/gt3nU6

    Full, unedited video of murder of children and reporters, followed by jokes and running over their bodies
    http://bit.ly/9MRvxS

    And "tracing them back to him" involves tracing anything wikileaks released and published to something Manning actually submitted. There are no chat logs, there is no evidence of him sharing the info, hell it doesnt even make sense as it wouldn`t have fit on a CD he allegedly used anyway. Not that that`s the point. The point is what`s in the leaks
  50. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2011 at 1:32 pm
    so this guy is just a "pain in the ass" to the "regime" huh? i wonder what the people who were working with allied forces in afghanistan, you know, the ones who`s names were released because of this traitor, i wonder if they would classify him as a pain in the ass, or i wonder if they wouldnt say anything because they are dead now.......some of the stupid poo said here is amazing. this guy got people killed for monetary gain, hes the worst kind of murderer.
  51. Profile photo of Kougaiji
    Kougaiji Male 18-29
    604 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 1:32 pm
    @auburnjunky aka redneck idiot who thinks he knows anything about soldier rights:

    When a person is held for trial by general court-martial the commanding officer shall, within eight days after the accused is ordered into arrest or confinement, if practicable, forward the charges, together with the investigation and allied papers, to the officer exercising general court martial jurisdiction.

    UCMJ Sect 833. ART.. 33. FORWARDING OF CHARGES
  52. Profile photo of Kougaiji
    Kougaiji Male 18-29
    604 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 1:34 pm
    @yusuksomuch

    There is no evidence that anyone has died from the leaks. Furthermore, names were redacted. Additionally, Wikileaks asked the government multiple times to work with them to perform necessary redactions to maintain the safety of persons. The US Government refused, making it obvious human safety is not their primary concern.
  53. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    well i "wondered" if they were dead, you say that those names were "redacted", if thats true it was after they had been fully released on the net and therefore can never really be "redacted" arguing for this guy makes you and anyone else doing it look like a ftard
  54. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    and even if no one was killed, they certainly were put at risk because of this guys greed, thats a fact.
  55. Profile photo of Kougaiji
    Kougaiji Male 18-29
    604 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    yusuksomuch

    They were redacted BEFORE they were released. There is not "uncensored" version on the net that anyone knows of. They used their journalistic integrity to maintain the safety, often redacting names they did not need to.
  56. Profile photo of Kougaiji
    Kougaiji Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 1:44 pm
    yusuksomuch

    what greed? he was exposed, he didnt appear to receive any money and he never asked for credit. he doesn`t even take any credit. All they have on him is a non-verifiable chat log that another hacker posted
  57. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    lol, yep that proves it, "journalistic integrity"
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 1:53 pm
    drat you kougaiji. Eat a dick.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    obviously this guy is a hero to you and im very happy you have someone to rub it to at night but it doesnt change the fact that he took an OATH and then he put his fellow soldiers at risk, and if you think he did it for free you are smoking crack
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 2:25 pm
    Theres way to much politics around this
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    madest Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2011 at 3:07 pm
    Republicans hate this kid, Democrats have sympathy for him. He`s in a no win situation. If you`re so inclined you can contribute to the Bradley Manning Defense Fund.
  62. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 3:24 pm
    here is a much better use of your money

    www. children of fallen soldiers relief fund. org

    its all one word but its too long for this post
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    soulsender76 Male 30-39
    182 posts
    March 3, 2011 at 3:38 pm
    Yikes! Hope the "TRUTH" was worth it for him.

    I am a O.I.F. Army Veteran and My father was born and raised in Palestine still it would not be worth it for me.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2011 at 3:55 pm
    Little dramatic. Nobody died from his actions. Greed? Wikileaks doesn`t pay. They`re merely an outlet for whistleblowers. We spent a trillion dollars on a war based upon lies that cost us 4,500 lives and the frauds responsible are celebrated with libraries and lifetime healthcare and $400k a year retirement.
    Bradley Manning will rot in jail for whistleblowing on very powerful people who deserved to be exposed. That`s a goddamn shame.
  65. Profile photo of Reignblazer
    Reignblazer Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 4:01 pm
    Look. As everyone here knows, the image of the US to the rest of the world has been tainted for a while now. Most people outside of the US view you as a bully that takes what he wants either by force or by political coercion. Now there`s 2 camps to this discussion: those who care, and those who don`t. The latter seems to be fine with it as long as the shoe doesn`t end up on the other foot someday..

    I`d say if anything there should be more transparency in US foreign policy. Sure the truth was revealed in a dangerous way, but it shouldn`t need to be in the first place if people kept their nose clean. What bothers me is that it doesn`t bother you.

    @Laynard: So what you`re saying is: The attack (which is full of suspicious facts & conveniently missing information btw) over a decade ago gives the US the right to do whatever they damn well please? As for your quote, it proves my point exactly. Do what we want you to do or get crushed under our heel. That`s not unity, th
  66. Profile photo of Reignblazer
    Reignblazer Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 4:05 pm
    @Avalessa: Do not worry, I suppose `you Americans` was a poor choice of words. I know not all of you are dumb, deaf and blind (and some willfully so!) But it falls to people like you, people of your generation, the up and comers to make America great again.

    There are a lot of patriots in this community, but I fear some of them might have exchanged their patriotism for blind obedience and zealotry.

    In any case, I have had my say. Take it as you will.
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    Listypoos Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2011 at 4:16 pm
    I`m in two minds about this... I worked in mil. intel and I hate the fact that someone trusted with classified stuff would betray that trust.

    However, this line in the report here

    "Manning was charged in July with mishandling and leaking classified information, as well as putting national security at risk in connection with the release of information about a military attack on unarmed Iraqi men. "

    hell...there`s a difference between national security and national integrity. Security wasn`t the first thing on their minds when they ordered the fact that unarmed men had been killed to be classified.... ass covering and embarrassment was.

  68. Profile photo of Volsunga
    Volsunga Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 4:21 pm
    @Kougaiji
    The wire from Kabul is referring to a local politician that accused the US of covering up child prostitution. It is a report on the political atmosphere of the region. There is nothing in that report to suggest that it was actually happening.

    As for "Collateral Murder", The Reuters Journalists were embedded with insurgents and were fired upon when one of the insurgents they were with pointed a rocket propelled grenade at the helicopter. As for the "jokes", people have to cope with war somehow.

    What makes you think he couldn`t fit everything on a minimum 700MB disc? It`s all text. The full archives for both Iraq and Afghan war diaries and the state dept cables so far total about 180 MB (and that`s including all the web formatting). There are no chat logs, but having data downloaded illegally by Manning and that exact same data turning up being published by Wikileaks is more than enough evidence to prove that the information was shared.
  69. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2011 at 5:13 pm
    benedict arnold was a hero to some europeans too so i guess i shouldnt be surprised to hear you praise him, just remember for every kid in the USA here only because they are "still a minor" (lmao thats still so funny), there are 10 who are proud of this country and believe in it and will fight for it long after my generation is gone. keep your smug little view it doesnt matter anyway
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    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 5:43 pm
    Considering he`s only a suspect, being held as if he is criminal, is not surprise. What is a surprise is that he still alive, consider the United States pro position on torture of detainees (this includes domestic detainees as well).
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2011 at 5:52 pm
    canada, the other europe
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    CoyoteKing Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 7:18 pm
    sucks to be him
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    procker14 Female 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 8:16 pm
    Ugh...
    That link explanation was pretty one sided.

    Sometimes it seems this website just creates links to start flamewars.
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    RETARDEDBEAR Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:14 pm
    "Little dramatic. Nobody died from his actions. Greed? Wikileaks doesn`t pay. They`re merely an outlet for whistleblowers. We spent a trillion dollars on a war based upon lies that cost us 4,500 lives and the frauds responsible are celebrated with libraries and lifetime healthcare and $400k a year retirement.
    Bradley Manning will rot in jail for whistleblowing on very powerful people who deserved to be exposed. That`s a goddamn shame."

    No. Bradley Manning will rot in jail because he broke the law. He did not "expose" anything shocking. "Wars based upon lies," as you so affectionately call them, have nothing to do with it, and the people who you believe are responsible for said "lies" are not even in power anymore.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2011 at 9:50 pm
    Salute to a man who exposes dishonest behavior no matter the country. He`s basically f*cked though.
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    Matholameu Male 70 & Over
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    March 3, 2011 at 10:34 pm
    @handys003 -No, he`s totally drated. 100%
    Poor guy.
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    Student_Law Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2011 at 11:11 pm
    @yousucsomuch: Yeah, you know who "Afghan agents" are? Well... actually, nobody does. Yup, thats right. This argument, for one, is invalid because there are no incidents of "afghan agents" being put in danger because they have had their names released. The only Afghan agent i have heard of being "outed" by wikileaks, is Hamid Karzai`s brother, who was caught carrying a suitcase full of drug money. Karzai, the man we (USA and Norway together) support militarily is corrupt and is under suspicion for cheating the elections. He has passed laws that opress women, and he is suspected to be involved in drug trafficing.

    There you have your "Afghan agents" who have been "outed" by wikileaks... (well, the ones we know of anyway, and as far as i know they are still alive and doing very, very well...)
  78. Profile photo of phoneybone
    phoneybone Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2011 at 11:27 pm
    to anyone who`s saying "oh, poor little pvt bradley", the dude gave away classified military documents, and that`s a biiig thing they say "DON`T DO" when you`re in the military. So yeah, he`s an idiot and deserves whatever he gets.
  79. Profile photo of cheezcake117
    cheezcake117 Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2011 at 2:25 am
    @Phoneybone

    Matters like this aren`t as clearcut as that, he exposed some pretty disgusting military corruption. Pretty hypocritical of a country that fights for democracy, freedom and human rights in other countries but then covers up things like the murder of unarmed iraqi civilians and reporters.

    The USA is on pretty shaky ground atm in the rest of the worlds view, you guys have good ideals but the true reasons behind which you try and obtain them for other countries is questionable (oil etc.)
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    ledgehead Male 40-49
    633 posts
    March 4, 2011 at 3:42 am
    It`s about time! And there should be repercussions for the people that report on a story under the guise of anonymity. As in, the President will be touring today in "any place" but don`t use my name because I`m not supposed to tell anyone, WTF. Isn`t this endangering the life of your President?
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    thefatkid77 Male 18-29
    112 posts
    March 4, 2011 at 3:44 am
    As a member of the military, that doesn`t even have much access to classified material, I know how many times this ass must have been warned about keeping info under wraps. He probably deserves whatever he gets. Also, he`s probably an idiot. And, the government will probably make an example out of him.
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    SvampeBob Male 18-29
    3076 posts
    March 4, 2011 at 4:01 am
    I got more respect for a person who disobey his duty to show the world the corruption, than some loyal persons who covers up and kills the "traitor".
    no he doesn`t deserve the death penalty the damn ass holes who commit war crimes and kills innocent civilians deserve to be put in jail
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    LionHeart-72 Male 18-29
    521 posts
    March 4, 2011 at 6:00 am
    Wow, that article had no idea what it was talking about. The documents leaked had no part in the recent uprisings in the Middle East. It was the sudden snap in Egypt that gave these folks the courage (hard to explain- Egypt has a HUGE influence on the region and when they were able to kick out their autocrat, many others believe they had a chance to change things in their country too).

    Manning leaked documents that were relatively benign. No leaked government corruptions like the media would love you to think (makes the story juicier). It`s more the fact that he willing distributed classified that pissed us off so much. The enemy loves to use ambushes and any info they can use to plan those better can get a lot of people killed. He`ll just be in prison for a long, long time.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    March 4, 2011 at 6:10 am
    Now we`re torturing him.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36838 posts
    March 4, 2011 at 7:02 am
    Seriously Madest?... "torture" ? ha!

    No, if he was humiliated by being naked,that`s God`s fault for making him look funny.

    I don`t think the whole strip naked thing was a good idea, but it`s no where near "torture".

    And I think we should wait to see if he`s convicted before punishing him. If he is, then it should be harsh.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    March 4, 2011 at 7:23 am
    It was called torture at Abu Gharib. Why would it be considered something else at Quantico?
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    esmifra Male 18-29
    34 posts
    March 4, 2011 at 7:45 am
    AMERICA! Getting closer to a dictatorship every day since Bush...
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    skypirate Male 18-29
    2422 posts
    March 4, 2011 at 8:13 am
    if Manning is convicted of all of the charges he could face life in prison, plus reduction in pay grade to the lowest enlisted pay

    anyone else find this combination of charges strange?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    March 4, 2011 at 8:23 am
    "Getting closer to a dictatorship every day since Bush..."

    Funny how you said AFTER Bush. Quite telling.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36838 posts
    March 4, 2011 at 9:07 am
    @Madest

    they also piled them naked on top of each other in homoerotic poses and too photos. That`s a bit differant.

    And I wouldn`t classify the naked stuff at Abu Grade as "torture". Wrongheaded, sure. Stupid, yes.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    March 4, 2011 at 10:08 am
    They lifted DADT so nobody would think anything odd about forcing prisoners to share their junk with their American captors.
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    imnakdjumpme Male 18-29
    598 posts
    March 4, 2011 at 11:38 am
    most whistle-blowers get praise, honors and money for their courage to defy the rules of the institution they work under for a greater cause
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    terracottus Male 30-39
    280 posts
    March 4, 2011 at 1:18 pm
    Sorry dude, but thats the game.
    Having the death penalty is a disgrace though, shame on you america.
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    tedweird Male 18-29
    298 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 8:38 am
    i fully understand prosecuting him for leaking information, but how does wikileaks count as `the enemy?` or was that referring to the unarmed Iraqis the military was apparently intending on attacking?

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