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  1. Profile photo of HopeandSara
    HopeandSara Female 13-17
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:25 pm
    Link: The Difference Between Japan And America - Japan after their recent earthquake/tsunami combo and New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:30 pm
    Its all bout the free stuff I guess.
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    inb4 4chan-like, racist comments.
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    Blaklesby Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:33 pm
    Black people.
  5. Profile photo of Commentator
    Commentator Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:35 pm
    Not a fair comparison. One is a country with a civilization and culture. While the other is an Empire in decline.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:37 pm
    It must also be noted that three new patents were filed by Japanese people standing in line.

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    RAGEMONSTER Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:37 pm
    MUST.. NOT... COMMENT... WILL ... BE... LABELED... RACIST
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    xtkm1x Male 13-17
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:38 pm
    ...........I don`t wanna say what I`m thinking right now
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    GuardinGnome Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:39 pm
    There`s more black people in the one on the right.
    And a mysterious lack of white people in both of them........
    Huh......
  10. Profile photo of Lilou88
    Lilou88 Female 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:39 pm
    You don`t know the situation in the case with the people from Hurricane Katrina. There were a lot of people who lost everything because of the storm, and the fact of the matter is that includes clothes. Granted, looting is not the best thing to do, but going without clean clothes for weeks would suck.
  11. Profile photo of fivezones
    fivezones Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    Is this commenting on countries or races?
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    kingpong Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    As soon as the next major hurricane hits SC I`m getting a new entertainment room.
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    Django Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:42 pm
    I lived in Japan for 15 years. They have a deeply rooted understanding of "the greater good."
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:43 pm
    @Lilou88

    Errrm pretty sure there`s plenty of people in Japan who`ve lost everything also. They as a culture belive in this thing called honor where as the people to the right well...ahem something different.
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    D3rAnG3d Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    I could make a tasteless joke, but I`ll keep it classy.... for now.
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    juanorar Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    Cheap Demagogy
  17. Profile photo of Im_Racist
    Im_Racist Male 70 & Over
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:51 pm
    @GuardinGnome

    you cant tell if those people in the left picture are asian or white by looking at the back of their heads. there could be both
  18. Profile photo of BoredFrank
    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    One chick is holding a huge *stack* of shoe boxes, while young Skillet to her right is absconding with a variety of oversized sports jerseys.

    I suppose those were essential survival items?
  19. Profile photo of FecesinVCR
    FecesinVCR Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    No. That is the difference between Japan and South Alabama.
  20. Profile photo of pompousass7
    pompousass7 Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    it is simple..no racism needed
    civilized - uncivilized
    educated - uneducated
    fair - greedy
    about all of us - about me
    evolved - still primative in nature
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    DRSHOWERMAN Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:59 pm
    Wow considering japan is the most densely populated country in the wrold and 1/6th of all people are japan the way the reacted to the tsunami is good
  22. Profile photo of SmagBoy1
    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:12 pm
    Maybe, instead of race or country of origin, we should look at the real issue depicted here (if this ridiculous picture points out anything, and I`m not claiming it does) and that`s the HUGE economic disparity between the people shown in each picture. Walk a mile in the shoes of the people from each picture, prior to their tragic event, and see which shoes YOU`D rather be in. My guess is that there`s no comparison. But, hey, be ignorant haters. You`re not hurting anyone but yourselves.
  23. Profile photo of ragebot
    ragebot Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:12 pm
    Tell me, O righteous one, what do you do when the shop owners leave and you have two crying children, cold and hungry and without a dry place to sleep? Politely wait for the government to get it together? Wait for the shop owners to come back? No, you find some drating food, by any means. Your lack of thought sickens me.
  24. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:16 pm
    vv I guess they can eat sneakers and sports jerseys.What`s the nutritional value on those??
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    screwzlooose Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:17 pm
    no, thats the difference between new olreans and LOTS of places. we had 2 hurricanes before katrina here in florida, and people didnt loot. sure, we didnt have water up to our knees for weeks, but the police were too busy here to have stopped looting if it had happened.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:18 pm
    @SmagBoy1

    I`d say the one on the right then looks like they have alot more choices of shoes to be in.
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    edana42 Female 50-59
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:21 pm
    "Is this commenting on countries or races" neither - it`s cultural(core values)

    postscript: white trash would do the same dam* thing.

    @ ragebot...that`s not food in their hands.
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:23 pm
    @ ragebot They aren`t scavenging for food, they`re stealing trainers and baskeyball jerseys, I`m sure people wouldn`t complain about an honest hardworking person taking a few tins of food to feeed their family after a disaster, these people however are thieving scumbags who are looking to profit from the event. Massive difference.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:30 pm
    You should indeed walk a mile in someones shoes before you speak ill of them. You have the advantage then of being a mile away from someone who is barefoot.
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    srslylia Female 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:31 pm
    @ragebot, I`m sorry but I don`t see how 5 pairs of Nike`s will help them curb their hunger.
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:32 pm
    i`mma get me some shoes!
  32. Profile photo of rammo34
    rammo34 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:35 pm
    Stay classy New Orleans.
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:37 pm
    I have to admit, I would totally loot. I`d like to think I would loot wisely, but I definitley would do it.
  34. Profile photo of Rick_S
    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:45 pm
    "Tell me, O righteous one, what do you do when the shop owners leave and you have two crying children, cold and hungry and without a dry place to sleep? Politely wait for the government to get it together? Wait for the shop owners to come back? No, you find some drating food, by any means. Your lack of thought sickens me."

    I have no problem with what you`re talking about, and undoubtedly, that happened on a grand scale, and I`m sure that all was forgiven.

    However, look at the picture. That`s not food they are taking. That`s shirt and shoes and hats and stuff. OK. Everything they owned got ruined, and they need new stuff. So you take one or two shirts, a pair of shoes. That`s not what`s happening here, either. They are stealing as much as they can carry, regardless of need. The picture on the right is looting at it`s worst, satisfying nothing but greed, and can not be explained away or condoned at all.
  35. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:51 pm
    You know what though, in Japan they are not a foot deep in water. People could still go to a store and buy things. We also have no idea how long after the storm this was. Maybe they wanted a GD dry pair of shoes, maybe they`re taking shoes back to other people who need them - there`s just no way to know. So I find it hard to judge.
  36. Profile photo of EdiMesic
    EdiMesic Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:56 pm
    Rick_S: Thank you for saving me the time to type all of that.

    I salute you, good sir. : ]
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    Psychodelli Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 1:57 pm
    lawlz theyre all black.
  38. Profile photo of aquaman1227
    aquaman1227 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 2:02 pm
    ..... I want to move out of this poo hole.
  39. Profile photo of bram
    bram Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 2:10 pm
    I was a cashier, at a grocery store in Houston, when Katrina hit. I had at least twenty people a day, for weeks, try to sell me their fema cards. I had people, on the streets, screaming at me, because I wouldn`t give them money. Sorry, but just because they chose to live in a giant bowl, surrounded by water, doesn`t mean that I`m not broke. I got tired of that pretty fast.
  40. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    Oh come on guys!
    I`m a racist and even I know looters after Katrina were multi-racial


  41. Profile photo of SmagBoy1
    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 2:31 pm
    @McGovern1981: okay, nice one, I`ll give ya that. :-) But my point still stands.
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    myrtheus Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2011 at 2:41 pm
    I`m thinking that the picture on the left is not taken in an ghetto. Iowa had a flood in 93 and they did not loot. One city gets hit hard by a hurricane and loots... is not a whole America.
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    davidb305 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 2:50 pm
    black people
  44. Profile photo of DrProfessor
    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 2:53 pm
    ... now, come on. That`s a pretty crappy comparison. A low-income, urban area hit by a disaster like that will result in looting. For all we know the picture from Japan was taken from a middle class area. (where, if you`ll notice, people can still walk and drive without having to make their way through knee-high water.)
  45. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2011 at 3:04 pm
    I have to admit, I would totally loot.
    I admire your honesty @Oystah!
    Ghetto = Scum, there`s just no other equasion involved. 1% are "nice poor folks" and 99% are human garbage (disregardless of race, eh?)
  46. Profile photo of ajd121
    ajd121 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 3:05 pm
    That should be the difference between Japan and New Orleans. Not Japan and America.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 3:09 pm
    just another IAB bash America post, you are being controlled you know. lol
  48. Profile photo of ajd121
    ajd121 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 3:11 pm
    @smagboy1 "and that`s the HUGE economic disparity between the people shown in each picture."

    How do you know how well off either group is?
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    ajd121 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    Wow some of these excuses posters are drudging up for the picture on the right are sickening.
  50. Profile photo of tylertooo
    tylertooo Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 3:19 pm
    Sort of an unfair comparison. Japan is a largely homogeneous nation with strong cultural tendency towards conformity. The US is A heterogeneous society that values individuality to the point of nonsense. Comparisons to disasters in the Midwest only prove this point.
    Additionally, there is a long history of economic disparity in the south, as well as outright racism. As an outsider stationed in Mississippi in the early 80`s, I was shocked at how overt the racism I witnessed was. After all, the seeds of injustice ALWAYS bear fruit.
    It`s like kicking someone in the face, and then laughing at them because they get blood on their shirt. The only thing you demonstrate is your ignorance...
  51. Profile photo of ajd121
    ajd121 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 3:20 pm
    Katrina Looters
  52. Profile photo of Wizensilver
    Wizensilver Male 13-17
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    March 14, 2011 at 3:21 pm
    I`d loot, if we didn`t have much of a choice (I.e. no food and no-one selling it)
    I may steal something nice if I thought it wouldn`t matter to the person who`s it had been, but that would be in an apocalyptic situation :P
    Otherwise, better to keep order.
  53. Profile photo of tylertooo
    tylertooo Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 3:22 pm
    But, ya gotta admit: those Japanese are some orderly mofo`s.
  54. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2011 at 3:43 pm
    "I have to admit, I would totally loot."

    Oystah, I admire your honesty but there`s no way I`d leave you alone with the food stamps.
  55. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 3:47 pm
    "Yeeee nigga - you tink I have enough pairs of shoes?"

    "I`m not sure that`s your size - better give `em to me."

    ___

    "These basketball Jerseys should keep me save from teh rain."

    "Yo Dawg, we heard you like Basketball Jerseys.."
  56. Profile photo of Fatninja01
    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2011 at 4:14 pm
    Japan falls in line
  57. Profile photo of patticakes
    patticakes Female 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 4:52 pm
    Culture is what is left when you`ve lost everything.
  58. Profile photo of Zlek117
    Zlek117 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 4:58 pm
    Thats not merka!! thats aferka!!!
  59. Profile photo of RyanHake
    RyanHake Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 5:07 pm
    New Orleans hardly counts as "America".
  60. Profile photo of human_exile
    human_exile Male 13-17
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    March 14, 2011 at 5:09 pm
    no thats the difference between Japanese and blacks
  61. Profile photo of IRockYeah
    IRockYeah Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 5:20 pm
    Im not insinuating that whenever a riot or natural disaster occurs, black people will go looting but.........
    Ah what the heck.
  62. Profile photo of zombieland
    zombieland Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 5:25 pm
    @ human exile

    F*cking rights eh!
  63. Profile photo of jamilworm
    jamilworm Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 5:31 pm
    Not a very good comparison. Not to condone anything, but obviously the New Orleans situation was more drastic, considering the people in the photo are knee deep in water.
  64. Profile photo of handys003
    handys003 Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2011 at 5:41 pm
    @jamilworm

    Your comparing apples to oranges. The situation in Japan is just as dire straits. We are talking an area way more widened on the coastline than the gulf.

    The fact remains they are more civil in Japan than in the USA. Most would rather die than lose face by taking what is not theirs.
  65. Profile photo of handys003
    handys003 Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2011 at 5:46 pm
    @jamilworm

    BTW the victims of New Orleans had ample time to get out. Japans EQ doesn`t give you a notice. Also neither does a tsunami after such a huge EQ. Plus these people are homeless and there is no power and are living exposed to freezing temperatures. Stop being an idiot.
  66. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 5:51 pm
    FecesinVCR-"No. That is the difference between Japan and South Alabama."

    No, that is the difference between Japan and New Orleans (LA`s great socialist experiment...it failed).

    We did not have much, if any, looting in South Alabama, even though we had just as much damage.

    What we DID have was a bunch of hard working, self-reliant, hardy individuals (what you would call `Rednecks`) who also happened to be armed. Looting in these parts is a pretty dangerous endeavor.
  67. Profile photo of nikkuchan
    nikkuchan Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 5:53 pm
    I was in one of those lines for the convenience stores. Because of the black outs they were only letting 2 people in at a time, and they had an employee following them around like a personal shopper.
    The reason things are like this is that there is not a general "me first" attitude among people. People are taught to have restraint and endurance during tough times so that people can get through a crisis together.
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    omg209 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 5:56 pm
    knee deep.. knee grow?
  69. Profile photo of obhwfgirl
    obhwfgirl Female 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 5:57 pm
    Please. We all know that black people aren`t real Americans.
  70. Profile photo of jamilworm
    jamilworm Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 6:08 pm
    @handys003 I am not being an idiot. All I was saying is that these 2 pictures are not a good comparison. I said I wasn`t condoning anything (if you don`t know what that means it means I wasn`t saying it was ok). My only point was that the people in the Japanese picture aren`t in as bad a situation as the people in the New Orleans picture.

    I have no idea how Japanese and Americans in the same situation react. Neither do you, you aren`t in Japan and show me a picture of Japanese knee deep in water patiently waiting in line.
  71. Profile photo of SilverThread
    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2011 at 6:30 pm
    We need to clarify this, New Orleans is a Third World City in a First World Country. It`s a perfect example of why racism still exists in the United States. It`s not "The Media" It`s not a "Stereo Type".
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    Negativitron Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 6:34 pm
    Are you black and from New Orleans?
    If not, are you Japanese?
    no to both?
    Then shut your lily white mouth.
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    SmokeErrday Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 6:34 pm
    Wow america, we suck
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 6:41 pm
    DERP
  75. Profile photo of handys003
    handys003 Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2011 at 6:43 pm
    @jamilworm
    Ah but I`m married to a Sansei Japanese American who has relatives there. Also yes there are some in knee deep 40 degree waters. They are also without food and clean water and heat for warmth. Already my wife has spoken to relatives. The local Hongwanjis are organizing money and supplies for warmth food and water. If you don`t understand the concept of losing "face` by Japanese standards. Then you have no clue.
  76. Profile photo of SilverThread
    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2011 at 6:44 pm
    Are you black and from New Orleans?
    If not, are you Japanese?
    no to both?
    Then shut your lily white mouth.

    Right, because we shouldn`t have an opinion. The fact is, at face value, an as observer to BOTH incidents I can say there is a pretty damned obvious difference in the way the people involved responded to their situation.

    The Japanese have a lot of reasons to be proud, the thieves in the picture? Not so much.

    So why do you suppose that is? Is it because of their economic condition? Their history? Their upbringing perhaps? Yes, it`s all of these things. And all of those issues are why I come to admire some people and despise others, but my judgment is based on actions and not the arbitrary metrics used by true racists.


  77. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 6:51 pm
    jamilworm-"the people in the Japanese picture aren`t in as bad a situation as the people in the New Orleans "

    How do you figure. New Orleans was hit by a strong hurricane, of which they had days to evacuate, and less than 1500 people were killed.

    Whereas Japn had NO warning, no chance to prepare, and so far a PRELIMINARY deathtoll of 2400, with some estimations putting it over 10,000.

    Yeah, no comparison.
  78. Profile photo of nettech98
    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2011 at 6:51 pm
    Are you black and from New Orleans?
    If not, are you Japanese?
    no to both?
    Then shut your lily white mouth.

    Yup, these here shoes and shirts can feed my family until help arrives....
  79. Profile photo of Maxables
    Maxables Male 70 & Over
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    March 14, 2011 at 7:11 pm
    HURR DURR
  80. Profile photo of jamilworm
    jamilworm Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 7:28 pm
    You idiots aren`t getting what I am saying! I am not saying that the situation in Japan is not bad. It is horrendous! I can`t imagine what its like there. All I am talking about is the PICTURE! The people in the picture aren`t the worst off people in Japan. Yes the tragedy in Japan is worse than Katrina. Yes people in New Orleans had some warning. But the people in the picture of New Orleans obviously didn`t evacuate and thus were left in a horrible situation. The poeple in the Japan picture are in a seemingly unaffected area (the ground is dry, building looks undamaged, cars are parked there normally).

    Yes the worst off people in Japan are way worse off than the worst off people in New Orleans. What I was talking about are the people in the pictures.
  81. Profile photo of fartbreath
    fartbreath Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 7:34 pm
    Ahhh...thank heavens I wasn`t born a I am a racist!
  82. Profile photo of PacoP42
    PacoP42 Male 13-17
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    March 14, 2011 at 7:34 pm
    Oh god. Please don`t compare the rest of the US to New Orleans...
  83. Profile photo of Lardcarcass
    Lardcarcass Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 7:38 pm
    Whoa! Who trolled Jamilworm? Got him good, apparently.
  84. Profile photo of jamilworm
    jamilworm Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 7:47 pm
    haha yeah I was getting frustrated.
  85. Profile photo of Maromi
    Maromi Female 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 7:49 pm
    You know, I`d say something to defend the people on the right but look at what they`re stealing. NIkes, Jerseys, and completely meaningless things. True there were some people taking water, diapers, and other things they needed but I remember seeing a lot of people stealing tvs and poo. Yeah some people really couldn`t leave, but there were others who refused to leave. I don`t think you can ever compare two natural disasters and say these people have it worse, or those people deserve this. It`s all a miserable experience. New Orleans is a really poor city with a poor emergency program. Japan has its poo together.
  86. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 7:57 pm
    jamilworm-“people in the picture of New Orleans obviously didn`t evacuate and thus were left in a horrible situation.”

    Yup, so bad that they were out shopping for shoes and a dozen Saint’s uniforms.

    So, exactly what type of wine do you serve with Air Jordan’s? Red or white?

    And the fact that they didn’t evacuate was due to their own stupidity and the incompetence of Mayor “Chocolate City” Nagin. It does not take a genius to figure out if a mutha of a hurricane is coming, and you live below sea level, it’s time to get the hell out.
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    sapling Female 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 7:58 pm
    @obhwfgirl By your logic, unless you`re 100% Native American, you`re not a real American either. Stop being a racist `tard.
  88. Profile photo of SilverThread
    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2011 at 8:02 pm
    Maromi, why does Japan have it`s crap together?

    Because of the Japanese. Seems like a statement of the obvious but consider it for a moment.

    There`s a reason and it has to do with a willingness to place the well being of others before yourself for the benefit of the collective. The comparison between Katrina and the Tsunami is fair and accurate and angry rebuttals about their dissimilarity or the unfairness of the comparison are moot.

    The fact is, the People of Japan are better behaved and more civilized than the people of New Orleans. An intelligent person would consider that, look at the model of better behavior and try to assimilate that into their own culture.
  89. Profile photo of freddyferret
    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 8:17 pm
    @PacoP42 - That stuff happens all over the US, not just New Orleans. It`s happened in St. Louis when there were big floods, it`s happened in LA after quakes, it`s happened all over. So don`t try to act like it`s just New Orleans.

    I could say a lot about these pictures but it`s pointless. It isn`t going to get better any time soon.
  90. Profile photo of TheShgn2
    TheShgn2 Male 13-17
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    March 14, 2011 at 8:36 pm
    Japan just has a more strict culture. But the downside to that is they won`t confront people, such as when they`re getting groped on a train and won`t ask for help.
  91. Profile photo of handys003
    handys003 Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2011 at 8:39 pm
    @jamilworm said:
    Not to condone anything, but obviously the New Orleans situation was more drastic

    Later you replied:
    My only point was that the people in the Japanese picture aren`t in as bad a situation as the people in the New Orleans picture.

    Followed by:
    I have no idea how Japanese and Americans in the same situation react. Neither do you, you aren`t in Japan and show me a picture of Japanese knee deep in water patiently waiting in line.

    Finally:
    What I was talking about are the people in the pictures

    Handys003 responds:
    No your weren`t condoning but you were comparing.
    Second I am married to a Japanese have dealt with such from Japan also for 3 decades. Therefore i know that Japanese would not consider looting as it would bring shame on the family which is unthinkable. Heck even getting into bankruptcy leads to suicide than lose face.

    Third here is your pictures:



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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2011 at 8:54 pm
    Don`t tell me they are not in knee deep water. I could give you more pics. Fact is Katrina victims had ample warning to get out. You don`t get that prerogative with an earthquake nor the tsunami generated by such. It hits about 5 to 10 minutes after such quakes. Those poor bastards did not have a choice like the people of New Orleans.
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    Renaud- Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 9:06 pm
    Yeah black people looting and japanese people being calm and rational nothing out of the ordinary...
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    March 14, 2011 at 9:13 pm
    @renaud: you just got the "douchebag of the year award", but don`t worry; the GOP is still looking for conserva-bots.
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    lukeforv123 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 9:14 pm
    It should say, "The difference between I am a racist!s and everyone else."
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    lukeforv123 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 9:15 pm
    It should say, "The difference between (really bad name for a black person) and everyone else."
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    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 9:33 pm
    @handys003

    "Fact is Katrina victims had ample warning to get out."

    And where exactly did you expect them all to go? And how exactly did you expect them to get there?

    Should they just have driven away to a hotel that they couldn`t afford with a car that they didn`t own?

    How exactly did you expect them to foresee an event that had never happened before?

    If I were suck living in a foot of water, with nowhere to go, and me and my family and friends were walking around with wet feet, and there was no one at the store to sell me shoes, I would steal them too!

    I think that`s the big difference.

    Japanese people had a place to buy things, Katrina victims didn`t.

    The only person that they are hurting is the insurance companies and a good deal of those things probably could not have been sold later on anyway.

    Give me a break.

    Sure some people probably stole things that they didn`t need, but yo
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    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 9:34 pm
    you don`t know that this is the case for the people in the picture.
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    pariahnola Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 9:36 pm
    Yeah.....I can`t really argue with this one! I`m from New Orleans and I approve this pic
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2011 at 9:54 pm
    "The only person that they are hurting is the insurance companies...."

    That`s the same mentality that justifies insurance fraud, shoplifting, etc....

    It raises MY prices when I go to the store or buy insurance. I have to pay for `uninsured motorists` because they drive illegally.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2011 at 10:34 pm
    @ Silverthread. You`re a wise man. Your posts give me hope for the species.
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    FfanaticR Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 10:58 pm
    (bump)
    "Maromi, why does Japan have it`s crap together?

    Because of the Japanese. Seems like a statement of the obvious but consider it for a moment.

    There`s a reason and it has to do with a willingness to place the well being of others before yourself for the benefit of the collective. The comparison between Katrina and the Tsunami is fair and accurate and angry rebuttals about their dissimilarity or the unfairness of the comparison are moot.

    The fact is, the People of Japan are better behaved and more civilized than the people of New Orleans. An intelligent person would consider that, look at the model of better behavior and try to assimilate that into their own culture."
    -SilverThread
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    prettymaryk Female 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 10:59 pm
    There are two kinds of looters:
    1. The kind that take advantage of the situation and take all that they can (see the picture above, the woman holding all of the nikes).
    2. The kind that take what they need (food, water, clothing, medicine). There was probably much more of that during Katrina than the first kind because of the lack of supplies.
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    March 15, 2011 at 12:53 am
    @nettech98 and I am not advocating looting under normal circumstances because of that, but they were under EXTREME circumstances. Heck, you don`t know, it`s possible that they were grabbing what supplies they could and taking them back to the stadium where thousands and thousands of people were staying.

    Yea the one lady has a three or four boxes of Nikes, but she`s checking the sizes and they look like kids shoes!

    Japan = rehearsed and prepared

    Katrina victims = unrehearsed, unprepared and panicked
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    March 15, 2011 at 1:02 am
    @notthatbored
    Don`t give me that lame argument.
    People in and around New Orleans were given plenty of warning of what was coming. They had 48 hours. They also live in the Gulf where they had seen plenty of other cities, states, islands, etc... get devastated by such. Hurricane Andrew ring a bell? They have the whole mainland USA to evacuate into and don`t need an expensive hotel.. Yes you get on a bus they provided and go to a shelter. Yes you get in a car and drive 12 hours to Dallas Texas and if you have to sleep in it. It`s not like they are stuck on a tropical island.

    The people along the coast in Japan didn`t have a luxury time to get out of the way. I know about Tsunamis and EQ`s. I live in a tropic island that`s isolated from all conveniences. The people here when Hurricane Iniki struck Kauai didn`t act like a jack ass and loot when everything was wiped out. We are warned and buy to prepare ahead of time and not wait until last second.
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    March 15, 2011 at 1:04 am
    This is not a shock to me in any way.

    Justify as much as you please; the pics say it all.
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    March 15, 2011 at 1:07 am
    I`ve been to New Orleans also. They are good people but basically are arrogant and it`s because they won`t listen they got caught in the storm. They coulda, shoulda, woulda but didn`t get out of the way. They didn`t even take precautions to follow Civil Defense on preparing for such such as waterproof packing and storage of food and water. Basically the ones that stayed screwed up by not preparing.
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    March 15, 2011 at 1:37 am
    @Handy yes the gulf had seen other hurricanes, I don`t think anyone here would dispute that, but the fact is that Katrina was a natural disaster on a scale that the Gulf had not seen before in recent times. Not to mention that it`s original trajectory was not headed for New Orleans.

    "They have the whole mainland USA to evacuate into and don`t need an expensive hotel.. Yes you get on a bus they provided and go to a shelter. Yes you get in a car and drive 12 hours to Dallas Texas and if you have to sleep in it."

    What total and lack of understanding for the whole situation you must have.

    Do you really think that there were just empty buses waiting around to evacuate people? No there weren`t, even after the storm hit people had to wait ridiculously long times to be evacuated. Read about Bus Evacuat
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    March 15, 2011 at 1:39 am
    "The people here when Hurricane Iniki struck Kauai didn`t act like a jack ass and loot when everything was wiped out. We are warned and buy to prepare ahead of time and not wait until last second."

    Thank you for reiterating my point that other countries prepare for these sort of events better than the U.S.
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    March 15, 2011 at 1:57 am
    @Silverthread....you nailed it man...truer words have never been spoken
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    March 15, 2011 at 2:23 am
    "The fact is, the People of Japan are better behaved and more civilized than the people of New Orleans."

    Yes, I often look to Japan and wondered why don`t we hunt and kill more endangered species? I mean I`d love to go out an kill a couple of whales then come home and wank off to some Japanese rape fetish porn. Then after that maybe I`d join the Yakuza because they are a good and moral people!

    Come on, people are people. Japan may be more "civilized" in some aspects but they fall short in others. Just like everyone else. They`re no better or worse.
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    Schr0dinger Male 50-59
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    March 15, 2011 at 2:24 am
    Jesus NotTHATbored, please STFU!

    Again, the pictures speak for themselves.

    ...christ...
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    March 15, 2011 at 3:02 am
    @ NotTHATbored replied:
    What total and lack of understanding for the whole situation you must have.

    handys003: Yep sure don`t. Just grew up in Dallas. Us dumb island people are so ignorant.

    @NotTHATbored:
    Thank you for reiterating my point that other countries prepare for these sort of events better than the U.S.

    handys003 replied:
    Hmm... I must have missed the news. Hawaii`s not a US state anymore. We finally restored the sovereign kingdom. Damn I must have been surfing that day.
    Alaska and Hawaii are very educated for Civil Defense disasters. I`m sure Louisiana has given plenty of info to prepare.

    Your just making excuses for slothfulness.


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    March 15, 2011 at 3:10 am
    @NotTHATbored

    Fact is the people in New Orleans had 48 hours to get out. They could do it if they wanted to . Your just making excuses again.

    Here is a fact;
    Louisiana was hit by 49 of the 273 hurricanes that made landfall on the American Atlantic Coast between 1851 and 2004. In addition, eighteen of the ninety-two major hurricanes with Saffir-Simpson ratings of category 3 or above have struck the state (U.S. mainland hurricane strikes by state, 1851-2004). On average, one major storm crosses within 100 nautical miles of New Orleans every decade.

    The fact is common knowledge. In fact besides Hurricane Andrew that was recent in 1992. Hurricane Camile which was a Cat 5 along with Andrew in 1969 came right up the Mississippi river.

    They were lazy or too stubborn to get out. If you live in any area that has EQ`s, Hurricanes, Tsunami`s, Tornado`s you should have your emergency kit. No excuses.
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    March 15, 2011 at 3:49 am
    oh yea this totally proves japan had it easy.....how simple minded
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    March 15, 2011 at 5:29 am
    @Handy just because you grew up in Texas doesn`t mean that you know anything about Louisiana`s evacuation procedures or how they played out in Hurricane Katrina.

    The people who where left in New Orleans where the poorest of the poor. Over 120,000 individuals in the city where without their own form of transportation according to census data and Louisiana`s government failed to have a plan for them all to be able to be evacuated in case of emergency. Louisiana did not even use the school buses that they had at their disposal.

    You also fail take into account that the average citizen had no way of knowing that the levees protecting the city had not been maintained properly and would fail.

    It`s easy to blame people for not getting out but in reality no one would have chosen to stay there had they had known that they would be inhabiting a place filled with chemicals, raw sewage, and bloated corpses.

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    March 15, 2011 at 6:19 am
    Japan was better prepared and if you don`t think that then your a fool, which is not to say anything bad about Japan. I think that their government has handled this awesomely. The people too, but it`s unfair to criticize the Hurricane Katrina survivors and say that they are less "civilized" because there was some looting at least partially out of necessity.
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    March 15, 2011 at 6:39 am
    You know what? Call me horrible, but I don`t feel as though something is a tragedy when people intentionally live somewhere that is prone to a specific disaster. Examples:

    People who live near the fault line in CA are prone to earthquakes. So why would one show them sympathy when their home is destroyed. You accept that possibility when you choose to live there.

    Japan is a nation made up of islands that sits right above an undersea fault line... DUH no kidding there is gonna be earthquakes and tsunamis... You accept that when you live in those kind of areas.

    I`m almost positive that you won`t see Massachusetts on the news in Japan when we get one of our northeasters dumping 4 ft of snow overnight... Why? Because we`re PRONE to them, and the whole world knows it. We`re prepared in those emergencies, and those that live here accept that they happen.
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    March 15, 2011 at 6:40 am
    NotTHATbored-"Do you really think that there were just empty buses waiting around to evacuate people?"

    Yes, there were. These:



    THIS is the New Orleans School Bus Depot. THESE buses are the ones that, according to the New Orleans Hurricane Emergency Plan, were SUPPOSED to be used to evacuate those who could not evacuate themselves.

    You remember that plan? The one Mayor `Chocolate City` Nagin DID NOT implement?

    And, quite frankly, New Orleans is not that difficult to get out of. I-10 East and West, I-55 and Lake Pontchartrain Causeway North. And you don`t have to go that far, just enough to get ABOVE SEA-LEVEL.

    Please do not comment on that which you have no knowledge. Those of us that experienced Hurricane Katrina know exactly how stupid the people and the mayor of New Orleans was.
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    March 15, 2011 at 6:47 am
    vv Yes NotTHATbored sports jerseys and sneaker are soooo vital in around 2 feet of water. If they were looking for something to keep their feet dry why wouldn`t you steal galoshes?
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    March 15, 2011 at 6:54 am
    "You know what? Call me horrible, but I don`t feel as though something is a tragedy when people intentionally live somewhere that is prone to a specific disaster. "

    you are a douche bag... I lived in St. Bernard Parish (suburb of New Orleans which was hit way harder then New Orleans) I was BORN there and I was 18 when it hit. I apologize from being BORN somewhere and not OLD enough to have left yet. JACK ASS... I use to counsel troubled middle school aged girls from the ninth ward. MOST OF THEM DIED because they were too poor and young to leave, and their drug addict parents didn`t give a drat enough to get out. Most parents didn`t even care enough to teach these kids how to swim. How about you not talk about things you don`t know poo about?
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    March 15, 2011 at 7:07 am
    I do have to agree that New Orleans wasn`t prepared and the government did a TERRIBLE job with the entire Katrina situation. This coming from someone who lived through it (yes I did evacuate) A lot of older and poorer people were promised to be picked up and evacuated out but NO BUSES CAME. The children who stayed OBVIOUSLY had no decision in the matter. Lot`s of people were just TOO POOR to go anywhere and no one cared about them. Japan was MUCH more prepared and the people are a lot more calm because they were taught how to handle themselves in these types of situations. NO ONE EVER talked about what would happen if a hurricane hit us. NEVER was I taught in school or by my parents. People were literally IGNORANT to what could happen.
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    March 15, 2011 at 7:12 am
    taylor_stone-"I don`t feel as though something is a tragedy when people intentionally live somewhere that is prone to a specific disaster"

    No matter where you live, there is a specific desaster that is always possible. The Gulf Coast has hurricanes. The Mid-West has tornadoes. California has earthquakes and Lindsay Lohan.

    EVERY Spot on this Earth sufferes from SOME type of natural disaster.

    YOU live in Massachusetts, which has historically suffered from Floods, fires, a hurricane and yes, even an EARTHQUAKE! (1884)

    So, move.
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    March 15, 2011 at 7:25 am
    @imlaramarie

    Before you go name calling, keep in mind that in my statement I refer to adults and those capable of making the decision to leave if they are born to those conditions... I`m near 30... I`ve watched my town DEVASTATED by massive snowstorms and hurricanes... (Never nearly as bad as Katrina, mind you) I`ve even had family die in the last few major storms. I choose to stay because no matter how much damage is done, we rebuild quickly and come together as a community. Want to call me a douche for my opinion, thats fine, but don`t act like I don`t live it too. We all have disasters that each of our areas are prone to. Southeast US gets tropical hurricanes, we (Northeast US) get snowstorms that are essentially ARCTIC hurricanes, CA gets earthquakes, Pacific Asian countries and Pacific US get tsunamis caused by undersea earthquakes... Its up to us in our respective community to be prepared for these disasters when they happen.
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    March 15, 2011 at 7:30 am
    @MeGrendel

    You only further made the same point I made. When you live somewhere, you live there accepting what comes with living there... I grew up here and am prepared for those disasters that come with living here. And what preparations I can`t make, the community can provide...

    Oh yea, I forgot about the Lohans.... DAMN CA has problems....
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    March 15, 2011 at 9:54 am
    @MeGrendel ... ???

    I don`t think you read all of my postings. Like I said, there were buses that they did not use to evacuate people. (See three posts before your bus post).
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    March 15, 2011 at 10:26 am
    imlaramarie- your statement about Japanese people being more calm than those in New Orleans doesn`t address the looting that goes on in most countries and cities when disaster strikes. The Japanese people live this way everyday, with politeness and a strong sense of national identity and community. I have experienced it first hand in Japan. It is amazing. They are calm and waiting in line in this picture not just because of "being prepared" (which, honestly no one can prepare for something like this no matter how used to earthquakes, Tsunamis, or anything else you are) they are this calm because they understand that everyone is in the same boat and they have immense respect for each other and for all of Japan. They call it Ishidaishin-a connection between all Japanese people. The U.S. isn`t exactly the most respectful of nations...or the most cohesive as a community or as people. That is the difference in my opinion, not being connected to each other.
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    March 15, 2011 at 10:51 am
    NotTHATbored-"I don`t think you read all of my postings."

    Sorry, missed that one.

    NotTHATbored-"Louisiana`s government failed to have a plan for them all to be able to be evacuated."

    Actually, that is incorrect. The New Orleans Parish`s Hurricane Preparedness Plan called for use of school buses to evacuate those who had no transportation. "Chocolate City" Nagin never implemented that portion of it, even though he ordered a mandatory evacuation (it also called for ambulances to evacuate hospitals and nursing homes..that was not done, either).

    The good majority of people left in New Orleans had the ability to leave, they chose not to. The Mayor failed in his duties to protect those that could not, or even organize those that could. The Governor of Louisiana was incompetent as well.

    What do all of these have in common? Democrat voting, socialist leaning and a major dependence on Momma Guv’mint. They`ve
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    March 15, 2011 at 11:53 am
    I just love seeing a picture then looking at the paragraphs or arguments below me.
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    premierwondr Male 18-29
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    March 15, 2011 at 12:02 pm
    Taylorstone are you equating a snowstorm with a tsunami? or an earthquake? or a hurricane?

    I`m from WNY I know all about snowstorms and no storm I`ve ever experiences could compare to the devastation caused in NO or Japan.
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    March 15, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    @Hiromi,
    Ditto. This kind of divisiveness and finger wagging is part of the problem.
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    rogue_knight Male 40-49
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    March 15, 2011 at 12:21 pm
    bet they don`t shoot at the helicopters bringing them medical supplies and food - nor do they loot everythig in sight!
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    Satkela Female 18-29
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    March 15, 2011 at 4:28 pm
    this is apples and oranges. I`m sure that not all of the Katrina survivors resorted to looting...this is a bs comparison
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    March 15, 2011 at 6:19 pm
    atkela
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    this is apples and oranges. I`m sure that not all of the Katrina survivors resorted to looting...this is a bs comparison.

    No it isn`t as there are NO, I repeat, NO reports of looting in Japan.

    I am ashamed of it but you are wrong.
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    March 15, 2011 at 7:12 pm
    Look at the robot outside family mart keeping everyone orderly.
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    imlaramarie Female 18-29
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    March 15, 2011 at 8:05 pm
    also notice that the Japanese people are at a place that looks completely unaffected by the quake/tsunami... the people in New Orleans are literally STILL WALKING IN WATER...
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    March 16, 2011 at 12:38 am
    Yes and we all know New Orleans has had the worst. Too bad they didn`t have to contend with a set of reactors that are now gone from level 4 to level 6 on a scale of 1 to 7. One step away from a whole region screwed.

    http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/78374.html
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    March 16, 2011 at 12:40 am
    BTW if the Mods had posted the before and after scenes I submitted. Then perhaps some of you would STFU about New Orleans. The way it`s going they won`t be able to dig out for decades and rebuild in fudgeushima.
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    adlinbaby Female 18-29
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    March 16, 2011 at 12:54 am
    ridiculous. thats it I`m moving to japan. after things get better of course.
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    alx-ndr Male 18-29
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    March 17, 2011 at 10:01 pm
    Looting in any situation is immoral...
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    idolmonkey Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    Japanese people are disciplined.
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    March 21, 2011 at 7:37 am
    *Sighs* Oh America, we`ve got a lot to learn.
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