Putting Radiation Exposure Into Perspective [Pic]

Submitted by: fancylad 6 years ago in Science

Wondering how much radiation is too much after the Japanese tsunami disaster? This chart might make you feel better.
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Female 582
@Angilion

All you need to say is you`d die from hyperkalemia from ingesting too many bananas before ever dying from radiation poisoning.
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Male 2,788
Why not just give the scientists space suits? Surely +40 Rad resistance should give them more time
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Male 302
Hey this was done by xkcd guy!
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Male 12,365
[quote">Oh god.
I`ve just eaten fifty thousand bananas.

Time to put my affairs in order.[/quote">

I think you might pull through. According to this page you`d need to eat about 50 million bananas in one sitting to suffer radiation sickness.

Being the kind of person I am, I decided to see if I could find out how many banana-equivalents of radioactive potassium a person carries around with them in their body:

i) A banana contains about 420mg of Potassium.

ii) Humans are about 0.2% Potassium.

iii) The proportion of isotopes is the same in Potassium in humans as it is in Potassium in bananas.

So a 70Kg person contains 140g of Potassium, or 333 banana-equivalents.

Forget metric - let`s switch over to the banana units system!
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Male 12,365
Ah, it`s r66tramp, my own personal pet troll! Isn`t he cute? He loyally follows me around everywhere. It`s quite touching. I shall feed him cookies.
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Male 12,365
I`m curious about bananas. Why specifically bananas? So I looked it up. It`s because bananas have a relatively high amount of potassium, including a radioactive isotope of potassium (which occurs naturally along with the much more common non-radioactive potassium).
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Male 12,365
[quote]But as soon as Randall waived his copyright and published this into the public domain, Angilion became wrong. And I know he puts a lot of store in being accurate, so I`m letting him know that IAB can`t steal from the public domain, since by definition everyone owns everything in the public domain.[/quote]

I think my statement is reasonably accurate, since it was a general case and not only this one image.

Although nowadays IAB gives due credit to at least some things, which is a big improvement over the old days when it went as far as taking other people`s work and putting an IAB
logo on it.
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Female 2,120
Oh god.
I`ve just eaten fifty thousand bananas.

Time to put my affairs in order.
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Female 269
>meepmaker
>A banana ? Really ?

We`ve all underestimated the dangers of bananas. They are the true killers. :)
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Male 40,772
Radiation just isn`t THAT BAD, there`s lots of other stuff that`s worse, eh?
But it scares people: a) because it`s `unknown` to them and b) because the MSM shrieks about it at every opportunity.

This chart is excellent!
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Male 6,693
A banana ? Really ?
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Male 4,242
@handys003
>>Now multiply x7 above normal. That`s the readings in Japan.

yes, that what the cart shows: normal. 0.3uSv now its 3.5 uSv. yep about 7x. still no big deal
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Male 4,242
i live in Colorado and i eat bannas. that means i`m likey to die in the 40-50 yaers. OMG!
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Male 573
Interesting, I want to see more posts like this.
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Male 4,290
He can be as on-board or off-board as he likes. Supporting the site is not a prerequisite of membership.
But as soon as Randall waived his copyright and published this into the public domain, Angilion became wrong. And I know he puts a lot of store in being accurate, so I`m letting him know that IAB can`t steal from the public domain, since by definition everyone owns everything in the public domain.

And thank you minigeko :)
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Male 674
Angilion writes ” IAB knows that their business model is based on stealing other people`s work and doesn`t care”

Why the hell would you post over 5,500 posts to IAB and not get on-side ? You need to get your head to the hospital...STAT.
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Male 3,076
OOOhhh NOOOO drat poor them, first "somebody" << ) ( >> drops two N-bombs... and then nuclear meltdown |-(
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Male 149
almightybob1 i respect the hell out of you lol
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Male 4,290
[quote]anyone else think it`s wrong that I-A-B makes ad money off of other sites` creations without even giving any sort of credit anywhere? For those curious, this is from xkcd. one of the most awesome webcomics around.

Yes. Unfortunately, IAB knows that their business model is based on stealing other people`s work and doesn`t care as long as they get ad revenue. So nothing will be done about it.
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Randall Munroe published this in the public domain under the Creative Commons license. It is free for anyone to use for any purpose, even for-profit, or even to modify without ramifications. So I could quite easily go and remove the "created by Randall Munroe" bit at the bottom and repost it here saying "created by IAB" completely legally. Or sell posters of it online.

It is accredited. It says right there who made it. We`ve done more than we had to.
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Male 12,365
[quote]@That_Dude The TSA scanners use radio waves in the EHF (Extremely High Frequency band. The EHF band is non-ionizing, and can only cause damage through heating of tissue at high power levels, levels beyond the capabilities of the scanner.

In other words, the TSA scanners put out 0.00 µSv of radiation.[/quote]

When did they throw away all the backscatter X-ray scanners?
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Male 12,365
[quote]wonder how much a full body scanner that the tsa uses puts out??[/quote]

That depends on what they set it to (the higher the setting, the better the quality of the image but the greater the exposure) and whether or not it`s working properly.

But it should be tiny, less than you`d get from the flight.

Should be.

No way of knowing, since they don`t allow independent monitoring and don`t monitor exposure of their own employees let alone anyone else.
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Male 12,365
[quote]anyone else think it`s wrong that I-A-B makes ad money off of other sites` creations without even giving any sort of credit anywhere?[/quote]

Yes. Unfortunately, IAB knows that their business model is based on stealing other people`s work and doesn`t care as long as they get ad revenue. So nothing will be done about it.
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Male 31
that`s a lot of bananas
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Male 604
anyone else think it`s wrong that I-A-B makes ad money off of other sites` creations without even giving any sort of credit anywhere? For those curious, this is from xkcd. one of the most awesome webcomics around.
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Male 12
@a1butcher

Mutant super-powered genitalia!
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Male 4,807
What if you slept beside someone who just ate a Banana after flying from New York to LA?
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Male 295
Moral of the story, no more bananas for me.
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Male 519
@That_Dude The TSA scanners use radio waves in the EHF (Extremely High Frequency band. The EHF band is non-ionizing, and can only cause damage through heating of tissue at high power levels, levels beyond the capabilities of the scanner.

In other words, the TSA scanners put out 0.00 µSv of radiation.
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Male 2,988
in other words. nothing to worry about.
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Male 3,431


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Male 111
that`s a lot of bananas
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Male 1,595
"*Unless it`s a bananaphone."

&*%^$# I just upgraded to one, too!
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Male 15,510
Woah
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Male 120
wonder how much a full body scanner that the tsa uses puts out??
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Male 147
I wonder how much Sv exposure the bombs we dropped on Hiroshima exposed people to... Hmmm
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Male 2,402
Now multiply x7 above normal. That`s the readings in Japan.
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Female 262
Hey, I saw this on Slashdot yesterday...
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Female 180
Tl;dr

I hope it`s not too early for this, but maybe we`ll have ghouls earlier than expected? :D Eh, eh?
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Male 3,147
"@LazyMe484 Its not completely intangible. Many of the people who died from extreme radiation doses, such as firefighters at Chernobyl and scientists involved in developing nuclear weapons, described a flash of heat, a metallic taste in their mouth, and a pins and needle sensation. "

You get the metalic taste in your mouth if you have radiotherapy in that region too.... and like a prickly heat feeling on your skin sometimes.

I`ve had quite a lot of radiotherapy and CT scans in my chest...... still waiting to be transformed into a superhero mutant though.
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Male 526
Not surprised at all that Randall Munroe had something to do with this. I`ve been reading in lots of places that the leakage isn`t AS BAD (it`s still bad) as some would have you believe, but seeing his name makes it easier to believe somehow. Is it dangerous to put too much blind faith in the creator of a webcomic? Nah
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Male 2,506
Can`t have no banana phones up in here
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Male 519
@LazyMe484 Its not completely intangible. Many of the people who died from extreme radiation doses, such as firefighters at Chernobyl and scientists involved in developing nuclear weapons, described a flash of heat, a metallic taste in their mouth, and a pins and needle sensation.

Also, it can kill you in much less than a minute. Louis Slotin, a researcher at Los Alamos, received a dose of 21Sv in a fraction of a second (and died 9 days later) when a core of plutonium they were researching accidentally reached critical mass in an experiment.
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Male 12,138
vv Nah. Rad Away removes rads, Rad-X increases rad resistance during periods of exposure. A little of both would be helpful though!
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Male 1,067
Too boring to actually read. Radiation and Japan are near the bottom of my list of things to cure boredom.
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Male 10,440
[quote] That`s gonna take some serious Rad-X [/quote]

You mean rad away. It`s called rad away dammit!

Also you need a high medical skill.

I like this chart. Puts things in perspective. It`s amazing to think that someone could die from radiation in one minute (chernobyl). It`s just this invisible, intangible force that kills you. :( Good thing we`ve come so far since then.
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Male 1,059
Banana phone is safe as long as it`s wrapped in plastic: http://bit.ly/ekmobm
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Male 881
What? This chart would imply that the media is sensationalizing the radiation leakage story! What could possibly motivate them to spread fear and panic without providing the relevant facts?

Seriously though, it`s a shame the damage this will do to nuclear power just as people were beginning to think logically. Lets put this in perspective, a massive earthquake and tsunami hit a 40 year old plant causing a small amount of radiation to be released. We have the technology to build far, far safer nuclear plants now and the looming danger of climate change should be enough to force us to look at the facts without the media hype.
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Male 25,416
How much do you need to get super powers
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Male 519
@Phoneybone A microwave would be the same as a cell phone on the chart. It releases electromagnetic radiation, but microwave energy is non-ionizing.
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Male 2,690
Unless it`s a bananaphone ha, win.
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Male 1,598
Radiation is just one of those inherently frightening words, but a lot of the news is overreaction.

I like the bananaphone reference, though.
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Male 613
Microwaves & radiation arenot the same
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Male 535
my banana phone is made out of plastic, so I guess I`m save!
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Male 1,744
i`m disappointed they didn`t add "standing next to an active microwave oven", always wondered about that
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Male 12,138
vv Jesus wept. Thanks Matwix. That`s gonna take some serious Rad-X.
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Male 2,551
davymid - one dot of blue is between 1/2 a rad and 1 rad.

One green dot is about 50 to 100 rads.

One red dot is about 500 rads.

One yellow dot is about 1000 rads. :3
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Male 405
@davymid
That would make me feel way better, too.
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Male 12,138
This is cool, but I`ve been playing Fallout recently. Can anyone convert this into Rads per second for me?
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Male 559
*unless it`s a banana phone.
i lol`d
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Male 3,482
Are you kidding me? The stupid censor also catches "fudge" (F uk) too? That`s stupid...
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Male 3,482
Who cares?

I just wanna know how many Rads it takes to grow a third arm, dammit!
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Male 4,290
Yeah, I saw this the other day on the XKCD blag. It`s quite interesting reading, but it would have helped if Randall had highlighted the relevant ones more clearly. For those that are struggling, it`s in the blue section - a one-day dose of 3.6 microSieverts near fudgeushima, which really is practically negligible.

I`m also glad he included the 0 Sv phone signal part. It annoys me when people tell me my phone will give me brain cancer.
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Male 480
Randall Munroe is the author of XKCD
XKCD.com
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Female 94
But I enjoy eating bananas on cross-country flights while curled up next to a stranger.
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Male 2,159
*F-u-k-u-s-h-i-m-a*

Can`t the censoring thingy work out if it`s part of a normal word and, y`know, not make me look like an idiot?
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Male 2,159
So... if you stand next to one of the two broken nuclear reactors at fudgeushima, you`ll get as much radiation as you normally do in a year?
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Male 20,920
Link: Putting Radiation Exposure Into Perspective [Pic] [Rate Link] - Wondering how much radiation is too much after the Japanese tsunami disaster? This chart might make you feel better.
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