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Date: 03/21/11 01:33 PM

67 Responses to Putting Radiation Exposure Into Perspective [Pic]

  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 1:35 pm
    Link: Putting Radiation Exposure Into Perspective - Wondering how much radiation is too much after the Japanese tsunami disaster? This chart might make you feel better.
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    Mikeado Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    So... if you stand next to one of the two broken nuclear reactors at fudgeushima, you`ll get as much radiation as you normally do in a year?
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    Mikeado Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 1:43 pm
    *F-u-k-u-s-h-i-m-a*

    Can`t the censoring thingy work out if it`s part of a normal word and, y`know, not make me look like an idiot?
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    redsy Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 1:44 pm
    But I enjoy eating bananas on cross-country flights while curled up next to a stranger.
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    Morrigann Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 1:49 pm
    Randall Munroe is the author of XKCD
    XKCD.com
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 1:51 pm
    Yeah, I saw this the other day on the XKCD blag. It`s quite interesting reading, but it would have helped if Randall had highlighted the relevant ones more clearly. For those that are struggling, it`s in the blue section - a one-day dose of 3.6 microSieverts near fudgeushima, which really is practically negligible.

    I`m also glad he included the 0 Sv phone signal part. It annoys me when people tell me my phone will give me brain cancer.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 1:57 pm
    Who cares?

    I just wanna know how many Rads it takes to grow a third arm, dammit!
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 1:58 pm
    Are you kidding me? The stupid censor also catches "fudge" (F uk) too? That`s stupid...
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    danky Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 2:16 pm
    *unless it`s a banana phone.
    i lol`d
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 2:20 pm
    This is cool, but I`ve been playing Fallout recently. Can anyone convert this into Rads per second for me?
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    Wizensilver Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2011 at 2:30 pm
    @davymid
    That would make me feel way better, too.
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    Matwix_2004 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 2:31 pm
    davymid - one dot of blue is between 1/2 a rad and 1 rad.

    One green dot is about 50 to 100 rads.

    One red dot is about 500 rads.

    One yellow dot is about 1000 rads. :3
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 2:33 pm
    vv Jesus wept. Thanks Matwix. That`s gonna take some serious Rad-X.
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    phoneybone Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 2:37 pm
    i`m disappointed they didn`t add "standing next to an active microwave oven", always wondered about that
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    EntrE Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 2:39 pm
    my banana phone is made out of plastic, so I guess I`m save!
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    zeebeedee Male 50-59
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    March 21, 2011 at 2:45 pm
    Microwaves & radiation arenot the same
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    Jasonbobdude Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 2:52 pm
    Radiation is just one of those inherently frightening words, but a lot of the news is overreaction.

    I like the bananaphone reference, though.
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    RyanHake Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 3:09 pm
    Unless it`s a bananaphone ha, win.
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    RuralNinja Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 3:10 pm
    @Phoneybone A microwave would be the same as a cell phone on the chart. It releases electromagnetic radiation, but microwave energy is non-ionizing.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 3:22 pm
    How much do you need to get super powers
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    NottaSpy Male 40-49
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    March 21, 2011 at 3:24 pm
    What? This chart would imply that the media is sensationalizing the radiation leakage story! What could possibly motivate them to spread fear and panic without providing the relevant facts?

    Seriously though, it`s a shame the damage this will do to nuclear power just as people were beginning to think logically. Lets put this in perspective, a massive earthquake and tsunami hit a 40 year old plant causing a small amount of radiation to be released. We have the technology to build far, far safer nuclear plants now and the looming danger of climate change should be enough to force us to look at the facts without the media hype.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 3:27 pm
    Banana phone is safe as long as it`s wrapped in plastic: http://bit.ly/ekmobm
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 3:34 pm
    That`s gonna take some serious Rad-X

    You mean rad away. It`s called rad away dammit!

    Also you need a high medical skill.

    I like this chart. Puts things in perspective. It`s amazing to think that someone could die from radiation in one minute (chernobyl). It`s just this invisible, intangible force that kills you. :( Good thing we`ve come so far since then.
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    paddyt07 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 3:38 pm
    Too boring to actually read. Radiation and Japan are near the bottom of my list of things to cure boredom.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 3:38 pm
    vv Nah. Rad Away removes rads, Rad-X increases rad resistance during periods of exposure. A little of both would be helpful though!
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    RuralNinja Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 3:47 pm
    @LazyMe484 Its not completely intangible. Many of the people who died from extreme radiation doses, such as firefighters at Chernobyl and scientists involved in developing nuclear weapons, described a flash of heat, a metallic taste in their mouth, and a pins and needle sensation.

    Also, it can kill you in much less than a minute. Louis Slotin, a researcher at Los Alamos, received a dose of 21Sv in a fraction of a second (and died 9 days later) when a core of plutonium they were researching accidentally reached critical mass in an experiment.
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    Boredered Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 3:50 pm
    Can`t have no banana phones up in here
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    krisley Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:04 pm
    Not surprised at all that Randall Munroe had something to do with this. I`ve been reading in lots of places that the leakage isn`t AS BAD (it`s still bad) as some would have you believe, but seeing his name makes it easier to believe somehow. Is it dangerous to put too much blind faith in the creator of a webcomic? Nah
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    Listypoos Male 40-49
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:11 pm
    "@LazyMe484 Its not completely intangible. Many of the people who died from extreme radiation doses, such as firefighters at Chernobyl and scientists involved in developing nuclear weapons, described a flash of heat, a metallic taste in their mouth, and a pins and needle sensation. "

    You get the metalic taste in your mouth if you have radiotherapy in that region too.... and like a prickly heat feeling on your skin sometimes.

    I`ve had quite a lot of radiotherapy and CT scans in my chest...... still waiting to be transformed into a superhero mutant though.
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    Milo_Pretzel Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:30 pm
    Tl;dr

    I hope it`s not too early for this, but maybe we`ll have ghouls earlier than expected? :D Eh, eh?
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    FemBot Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    Hey, I saw this on Slashdot yesterday...
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    March 21, 2011 at 5:08 pm
    Now multiply x7 above normal. That`s the readings in Japan.
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    TadnJess Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 5:38 pm
    I wonder how much Sv exposure the bombs we dropped on Hiroshima exposed people to... Hmmm
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    That_dude Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 6:03 pm
    wonder how much a full body scanner that the tsa uses puts out??
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 6:03 pm
    Woah
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    DShephard Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 6:48 pm
    "*Unless it`s a bananaphone."

    &*%^$# I just upgraded to one, too!
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    fabbatruffs Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 7:06 pm
    that`s a lot of bananas
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 7:08 pm


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    CoyoteKing Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 7:11 pm
    in other words. nothing to worry about.
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    RuralNinja Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 7:31 pm
    @That_Dude The TSA scanners use radio waves in the EHF (Extremely High Frequency band. The EHF band is non-ionizing, and can only cause damage through heating of tissue at high power levels, levels beyond the capabilities of the scanner.

    In other words, the TSA scanners put out 0.00 µSv of radiation.
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    ADRUNKHOBO Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 7:42 pm
    Moral of the story, no more bananas for me.
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    March 21, 2011 at 8:19 pm
    What if you slept beside someone who just ate a Banana after flying from New York to LA?
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    Imikulate Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2011 at 8:29 pm
    @a1butcher

    Mutant super-powered genitalia!
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    Kougaiji Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 10:51 pm
    anyone else think it`s wrong that I-A-B makes ad money off of other sites` creations without even giving any sort of credit anywhere? For those curious, this is from xkcd. one of the most awesome webcomics around.
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    Captn Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 11:42 pm
    that`s a lot of bananas
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 21, 2011 at 11:57 pm
    anyone else think it`s wrong that I-A-B makes ad money off of other sites` creations without even giving any sort of credit anywhere?

    Yes. Unfortunately, IAB knows that their business model is based on stealing other people`s work and doesn`t care as long as they get ad revenue. So nothing will be done about it.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2011 at 12:13 am
    wonder how much a full body scanner that the tsa uses puts out??

    That depends on what they set it to (the higher the setting, the better the quality of the image but the greater the exposure) and whether or not it`s working properly.

    But it should be tiny, less than you`d get from the flight.

    Should be.

    No way of knowing, since they don`t allow independent monitoring and don`t monitor exposure of their own employees let alone anyone else.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2011 at 12:14 am
    @That_Dude The TSA scanners use radio waves in the EHF (Extremely High Frequency band. The EHF band is non-ionizing, and can only cause damage through heating of tissue at high power levels, levels beyond the capabilities of the scanner.

    In other words, the TSA scanners put out 0.00 µSv of radiation.

    When did they throw away all the backscatter X-ray scanners?
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 2:54 am
    anyone else think it`s wrong that I-A-B makes ad money off of other sites` creations without even giving any sort of credit anywhere? For those curious, this is from xkcd. one of the most awesome webcomics around.

    Yes. Unfortunately, IAB knows that their business model is based on stealing other people`s work and doesn`t care as long as they get ad revenue. So nothing will be done about it.


    Randall Munroe published this in the public domain under the Creative Commons license. It is free for anyone to use for any purpose, even for-profit, or even to modify without ramifications. So I could quite easily go and remove the "created by Randall Munroe" bit at the bottom and repost it here saying "created by IAB" completely legally. Or sell posters of it online.

    It is accredited. It says right there who made it. We`ve done more than we had to.
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    minigeko Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 4:21 am
    almightybob1 i respect the hell out of you lol
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    SvampeBob Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 4:47 am
    OOOhhh NOOOO drat poor them, first "somebody" << ) ( >> drops two N-bombs... and then nuclear meltdown |-(
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2011 at 5:48 am
    Angilion writes ” IAB knows that their business model is based on stealing other people`s work and doesn`t care”

    Why the hell would you post over 5,500 posts to IAB and not get on-side ? You need to get your head to the hospital...STAT.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 6:18 am
    He can be as on-board or off-board as he likes. Supporting the site is not a prerequisite of membership.
    But as soon as Randall waived his copyright and published this into the public domain, Angilion became wrong. And I know he puts a lot of store in being accurate, so I`m letting him know that IAB can`t steal from the public domain, since by definition everyone owns everything in the public domain.

    And thank you minigeko :)
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    furryblob Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 8:22 am
    Interesting, I want to see more posts like this.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2011 at 8:46 am
    i live in Colorado and i eat bannas. that means i`m likey to die in the 40-50 yaers. OMG!
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2011 at 8:56 am
    @handys003
    >>Now multiply x7 above normal. That`s the readings in Japan.

    yes, that what the cart shows: normal. 0.3uSv now its 3.5 uSv. yep about 7x. still no big deal
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2011 at 9:06 am
    A banana ? Really ?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 22, 2011 at 10:43 am
    Radiation just isn`t THAT BAD, there`s lots of other stuff that`s worse, eh?
    But it scares people: a) because it`s `unknown` to them and b) because the MSM shrieks about it at every opportunity.

    This chart is excellent!
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    Lillim Female 30-39
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    March 22, 2011 at 12:41 pm
    >meepmaker
    >A banana ? Really ?

    We`ve all underestimated the dangers of bananas. They are the true killers. :)
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    SPARTAKITTY Female 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 3:14 pm
    Oh god.
    I`ve just eaten fifty thousand bananas.

    Time to put my affairs in order.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2011 at 4:46 pm
    But as soon as Randall waived his copyright and published this into the public domain, Angilion became wrong. And I know he puts a lot of store in being accurate, so I`m letting him know that IAB can`t steal from the public domain, since by definition everyone owns everything in the public domain.

    I think my statement is reasonably accurate, since it was a general case and not only this one image.

    Although nowadays IAB gives due credit to at least some things, which is a big improvement over the old days when it went as far as taking other people`s work and putting an IAB
    logo on it.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2011 at 4:50 pm
    I`m curious about bananas. Why specifically bananas? So I looked it up. It`s because bananas have a relatively high amount of potassium, including a radioactive isotope of potassium (which occurs naturally along with the much more common non-radioactive potassium).
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2011 at 4:53 pm
    Ah, it`s r66tramp, my own personal pet troll! Isn`t he cute? He loyally follows me around everywhere. It`s quite touching. I shall feed him cookies.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2011 at 5:07 pm
    [quote">Oh god.
    I`ve just eaten fifty thousand bananas.

    Time to put my affairs in order.[/quote">

    I think you might pull through. According to this page you`d need to eat about 50 million bananas in one sitting to suffer radiation sickness.

    Being the kind of person I am, I decided to see if I could find out how many banana-equivalents of radioactive potassium a person carries around with them in their body:

    i) A banana contains about 420mg of Potassium.

    ii) Humans are about 0.2% Potassium.

    iii) The proportion of isotopes is the same in Potassium in humans as it is in Potassium in bananas.

    So a 70Kg person contains 140g of Potassium, or 333 banana-equivalents.

    Forget metric - let`s switch over to the banana units system!
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    Molehouse Male 13-17
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    March 23, 2011 at 1:08 pm
    Hey this was done by xkcd guy!
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    deathxtra Male 13-17
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    March 27, 2011 at 11:51 am
    Why not just give the scientists space suits? Surely +40 Rad resistance should give them more time
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    obhwfgirl Female 18-29
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    March 28, 2011 at 11:14 pm
    @Angilion

    All you need to say is you`d die from hyperkalemia from ingesting too many bananas before ever dying from radiation poisoning.
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