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118 Responses to Oral Sex Now Leading Cause Of Increased Cancer

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    MOTBO Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:02 pm
    Link: Oral Sex Now Leading Cause Of Increased Cancer - Stupid science ruining life one thing at a time.
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    Postal2aw Male 13-17
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:07 pm
    Bullpoo.
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    ShAdOwDrAg0n Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:10 pm
    This is truly a sad day for mankind.
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    Quik2TheStab Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:11 pm
    Don`t go down on people with genital warts. I could have drating told you that.
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    Quik2TheStab Male 18-29
    661 posts
    March 10, 2011 at 1:12 pm
    Actually, if we could stop drating them, entirely, that would be nice.
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    donthaveone Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:12 pm
    I`ll take my chances ;)
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    Ghostofme16 Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:13 pm
    Well that makes me few loads worst about the day I had yesterday.....
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    IceDragon77 Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:15 pm
    "The more oral-sex partners a man had, the greater his cancer risk..." Well no poo! I mean, I thought it was common sense that the more people you have sex with the higher your chances are of getting an std!
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    the_windy Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:17 pm
    Maybe this will encourage women to get their HPV shot now. It`s either that, or a lot less orgasms.
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    mytbozak Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:17 pm
    us white boys loves to go south with the mouth
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    green_btrfly Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:21 pm
    only if your partner doesn`t wrap their $h!t.

    HPV is detectable.
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    rammo34 Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:23 pm
    Lies!
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:24 pm
    Whoa, whoa, whoa - so this only applies to men performing oral sex on women, not women performing oral sex on men? I demand to know who`s behind this!
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    premierwondr Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    I see what you did there Ghostofme
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    premierwondr Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:26 pm
    And wait what? I shouldn`t be going down anymore? How drating lame.
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    ficklexikon8 Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:31 pm
    whatevs...
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:34 pm
    where`s davymid with the bullpoo sign?

    PS. Ew, oral sex... gross. They pee from there
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    SmilinSam Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:43 pm
    *Title Correction*
    Oral Sex Now Leading Cause of Increased Orgasms
    there. fixed it.
  19. Profile photo of Trypno
    Trypno Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 1:43 pm
    Men can get HPV as well, and if this only applies to going down on someone with HPV, then perhaps people should stop going down on people with HPV...or people who use those vaccines that were listed...
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    nastyn800 Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 2:06 pm
    Hm. Well, even if this is true I`m not about to stop giving my girlfriend the deed. Call me crazy, but I`m not going to start being all paranoid about one of my favorite things in life
  21. Profile photo of Student_Law
    Student_Law Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2011 at 2:11 pm
    So we started singin` "bye bye, miss American Pie.."
  22. Profile photo of Dad4Life
    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    March 10, 2011 at 2:16 pm
    I am calling BS on this one.
  23. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 2:35 pm
    Researchers found a 225% increase in oral cancer cases in the U.S. from 1974 to 2007, mainly among white men

    Hmmm I have questions about this sample.
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    Kaagan Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 2:35 pm
    wasnt there a report not too long ago saying it was good for your health?
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    ScubaFett Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 2:54 pm
    OH, so it`s not the act of Oral Sex, it`s just that you might catch a nasty disease... God I hate news with their eye-catching headlines that aren`t actually correct.
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    Matholameu Male 70 & Over
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    March 10, 2011 at 3:02 pm
    Total bullpoo. They just need an excuse to shove more drugs into people.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    March 10, 2011 at 3:14 pm
    A new study has proven that research causes cancer in libratory animals
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    ZogHD Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2011 at 3:14 pm
    NOOOOOOOOO!
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    Reignblazer Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    "I`ll take my chances ;)"

    What he said.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    March 10, 2011 at 3:17 pm
    Hmm...I would like to see the resources listed for such. I just don`t mean the two names given either. But actual where to find the data. It`s to vague. Second the say it`s high among men, but what about among lesbians? We should see a high rate of increase among that group.
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    WeePee Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 3:22 pm
    "... God I hate news with their eye-catching headlines that aren`t actually correct."

    well then you must hate like 87% of every IAB post...
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    inversegrav Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2011 at 3:28 pm
    hey;
    I looked it up. Did you know that 100%, Thats 100% all, every single one! 100% of the people born in the year 1863 that ate carrots HAS DIED!!!!!!!
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    kj36 Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 3:31 pm
    They really need to make a gaurdisil vaccine for guys, not just girls.. I think they might but it`s harder to come by or something.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 3:35 pm
    research shows that 10 out of 10 people die.
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    March 10, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    Well you could try this...



    but then...


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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    March 10, 2011 at 3:58 pm
    Its a risk, reward thing.

    I`ll take the risk. She gets the reward


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    spacelad Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 3:59 pm
    Smoke cigarettees, not pole!
  38. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 10, 2011 at 3:59 pm
    Don`t go down on people with genital warts. I could have drating told you that.

    There are many strains of HPV, most of which don`t cause warts. The strains that can cause cancer aren`t the ones that can cause warts (and a person could be infected with one of the wart-causing strains and not have warts).

    So your advice wouldn`t help in this context.

    Men can get HPV as well, and if this only applies to going down on someone with HPV, then perhaps people should stop going down on people with HPV

    Most people with HPV have no symptoms, so how could you tell?

    That`s the bottom line - you can`t tell without a test.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 10, 2011 at 4:08 pm
    They really need to make a gaurdisil vaccine for guys, not just girls.. I think they might but it`s harder to come by or something.

    The same vaccine works for people of both sexes. It`s just a matter of paying for it - it`s not currently considered worth the cost to vaccinate male people against HPV. Almost all the research and treatment resources have been focussed solely on female people. That might not be only due to sexism - until recently people were only looking at genital and anal cancers connected with HPV and by far the most common one of those is cervical cancer.
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    malikymoo Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 4:13 pm
    fake
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    March 10, 2011 at 4:21 pm
    Here I`ll put it bluntly.

    I would rather go out with cancer knowing my wife thinks of me as a stud lover. Rather then die of old age as a retarded lousy lover.
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    mervviscious Male 40-49
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    March 10, 2011 at 4:28 pm
    Don`t care, don`t care.....
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2011 at 4:53 pm
    someone just fing shoot me know...seriously when oral sex gives you cancer there is NO POINT in living anymore.
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    D3rAnG3d Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 4:57 pm
    what doesn`t cause cancer?!
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 5:02 pm
    Lmfo, nerd, virgin, lifeless scientist must back up this research
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 10, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    I`ll risk it
  47. Profile photo of Isafan
    Isafan Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 5:27 pm
    So ... Does Gerry have HPV in the mouth yet? It`s most common in white men soo...
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    FemBot Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 5:27 pm
    Okay there`s lots of cancer nowadays, and recently people have more sex then usual... eureka! Sex must cause cancer! Now, off to prove the correlation between Nazis and liberals!
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 10, 2011 at 5:33 pm
    FemBot:

    There`s a *causal* link proven - some strains of HPV can turn some human cells cancerous. It`s not just a vague grabbing at an irrelevant correlation.
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    FemBot Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 5:39 pm
    trollers gotta troll...
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    braindamaged Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 6:04 pm
    Oral pap smears for everyone! :D

    Could you imagine a cone biopsy or LEEP in your mouth!? Jesus Christ that would hurt. Google it and I bet you won`t be saying, "hur dur I`ll take my chances."

    Hmmm... I wonder if that would become part of a standard dental visit. That would suck. As if going to the dentist wasn`t already painful enough.
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    HOBOMOE Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 6:08 pm
    where are the facts about this?
    Mennonites don`t have toasters and i haven`t heard of any of them having cancer
  53. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 6:17 pm
    This is actually true. The HPV virus which also can cause certain types of cervical cancer has been linked the throat cancer.

    BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THERE ARE VACCINES AGAINST THE VIRUS! GET YOUR VACCINES I-A-B AND ENJOY YOUR ORAL SEX SAFELY :-)
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    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 6:19 pm
    Web MD facts on HPV and its link to throat cancer: HPV & Throat Cancer
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    stagefreak Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 6:30 pm
    man, i hope the wife doesn`t get on here and read this.
  56. Profile photo of braindamaged
    braindamaged Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 6:44 pm
    If you`re sexually active then you probably already have HPV. The vaccine would be useless to you then. Vaccines stimulate an immune response to people without prior exposure. So if you`re <21 and not sexually active then get vaccinated.

    Otherwise, what`s the point? That`s like getting a flu shot after you get the flu.
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    Kougaiji Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 7:04 pm
    Correlation does not imply causation.
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 7:09 pm
    What the...
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    last1in Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 7:14 pm
    Of all the ways to get cancer, this is the best.
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    braindamaged Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 7:23 pm
    "Correlation does not imply causation."

    Although this statement is true, it has nothing to do with the link between HPV and cancer.

    The pathophysiology of this disease is clearly understood and the scientific evidence of HPV causing squamous cell dysplasia which leads to cancer is much stronger than mere correlation.

    You obviously know absolutely nothing about the subject.
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    Darkhumour Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 7:24 pm
    oh well sorry girls
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    SPARTAKITTY Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 7:55 pm
    Someone get me a pic of Darth Vader "NOOOOOO!"-ing right now.

    I need to feel better immediately.
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    DomTheDaring Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 7:57 pm
    Being as 3 of 4 Americans under the age of 49 will have contracted at least one strain of HPV at least once, chances are every single blow-job could be your last. Here`s a hint, ladies: past sexual history COUNTS. If he`s EVER admitted to NOT using a condom, you`re taking a risk. (And this is coming from a dentist. For the love of god, please get vaccinated and PLEASE practice safe sex! Thank you.)
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    IshiiDaFishy Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 8:13 pm
    `Mennonites don`t have toasters and i haven`t heard of any of them having cancer`

    No, HUTTERITES don`t have toasters, but yes, mennonites dont generally get cancer. They die of inbreeding.
    `if we break up, are we still cousins?`

    It`s true. Used to live inn a town that had a 95% menno population. Nightmare, it was.

    But, being one of the few young guys who wasnt part of the gene pool, and was `vetlich` (worldly), got me alotta pussay. It wasnt pretty though..
  65. Profile photo of HOBOMOE
    HOBOMOE Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 8:45 pm
    in a pathetic defense, I`m only commenting on the lack of info supplied by the article. It would have be nice to have some science, not 50 words about how you should avoid oral, and teach it in schools.
    With no real data you can make the "Correlation does not imply causation" arguement.
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    AngryYouth Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 9:40 pm
    What doesn`t give cancer?
  67. Profile photo of braindamaged
    braindamaged Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 10:00 pm
    It`s a good article. Even if the science were provided, the reader would be lost without a strong background in biochemistry, microbiology, and histology. It would take hours of reading to even get a basic understanding of the science. There are hundreds of relevant journal articles and textbooks written on the subject and if you`re interested in learning about it, the information is easily accessible.

    Making a statement like "correlation does not imply causation" suggests that the information in the article is false, which it clearly isn`t.
  68. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2011 at 10:05 pm
    @braindamaged

    "If you`re sexually active then you probably already have HPV. The vaccine would be useless to you then. Vaccines stimulate an immune response to people without prior exposure. So if you`re <21 and not sexually active then get vaccinated."

    NO, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE! EVEN IF YOU HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ACTIVE YOU SHOULD STILL GET VACCINATED!! While chances are good that you have been exposed to one strain of HPV that is known to cause cancer, chances are also good that you have not been exposed to all of them! Just because you are infected with one strain of cancer causing HPV does not mean you want to catch two or three! Get all three shots people, don`t be idiots, and when in doubt use protection!!!
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    vicious_liar Male 13-17
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    March 10, 2011 at 10:58 pm
    "The more oral-sex partners a man had".

    Does that mean as long as you`re with one partner there`s a one time increase in risk?
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    obhwfgirl Female 18-29
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    March 11, 2011 at 12:22 am
    So the cancer rates are higher than from tobacco? Probably because everyone realized it`s nasty to chew.

    Guess what, boys. You don`t wanna give? You don`t receive. I can catch a lot worse from your spunk than you can from my hooch. THAT is a fact.
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    3002-3038 Female 18-29
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    March 11, 2011 at 12:36 am
    everything causes cancer?
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    pyrrhios Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2011 at 12:38 am
    it`s not the sex, it`s the virus. get vaccinated. drat the women only feminazis.
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    Klivel Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2011 at 12:41 am
    Awesome... like women needed another reason. I`ll miss the days when I could say "hey, it`s protein. good for you, right?"...

    ...right?

    ...drating cancer.
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    Thetas Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2011 at 1:35 am
    While this is ambiguous, thankfully it`s just men giving women oral. Men can rest easy knowing they`re not shooting loads of cancer in to the mouths of women everywhere. Last I remember drinking semen was healthy for women if I`m not mistaken.
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    Agent00Smith Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2011 at 2:25 am
    So... This means I can feel good about being a horribly lonely sexless internet geek?
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    Pennybored Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2011 at 5:22 am
    Might as well just say, being alive causes cancer. There done, no need for any more medical studies as living is responsible for all cancer. Best solution is death. Sorted.
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    Kougaiji Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2011 at 8:05 am
    "Making a statement like "correlation does not imply causation" suggests that the information in the article is false, which it clearly isn`t."

    The conclusion in the article is false. This is more like "coming into contact with HPV, even if not via sexual intercourse, can cause cancer". Also, correlation between people getting more blowjobs over the last 30 years and cancer rates going up doesn`t mean that one causes the other.

    Furthermore, I`ve read plenty of scientific research, being in a research university and all, and just because they`re "difficult to read" does not mean that they`re necessarily correct. Plenty of false research comes out all the time, that`s why we have peer-review and multiple studies. That`s why we need to know exactly how this was tested.

    The findings that you can contract HPV from oral is true. The conclusion that oral causes cancer is false. HPV causes cancer, not oral.
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2011 at 9:28 am
    This is another example of how reporters/writers use part of the truth to create an overall misleading picture. Used to be integrity had a place in the world, but greed and vanity have made it obsolete.
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    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
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    March 11, 2011 at 1:34 pm
    i got the vaccine for this cancer in school :D
  80. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2011 at 3:37 pm
    If you`re sexually active then you probably already have HPV. The vaccine would be useless to you then. Vaccines stimulate an immune response to people without prior exposure. So if you`re <21 and not sexually active then get vaccinated.

    Otherwise, what`s the point? That`s like getting a flu shot after you get the flu.

    There are over 100 different strains of HPV. Even if you probably have one or more of them, that doesn`t mean you probably have all of the strains that can cause cancer.

    Besides, "probably" isn`t "definitely", so it would still be worth it anyway.
  81. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2011 at 3:42 pm
    Guess what, boys. You don`t wanna give? You don`t receive.

    Guess what, girl? Trading sex is not appealing. Maybe you should be an honest prostitute and take cash instead of favours.

    I can catch a lot worse from your spunk than you can from my hooch. THAT is a fact.

    I wouldn`t bet on it.
  82. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2011 at 4:00 pm
    While this is ambiguous, thankfully it`s just men giving women oral.

    No, it isn`t. The article is misleading about that too.

    There may well be less risk of HPV infection going down on a man than on a woman, but that isn`t known for sure and in any case less risk isn`t no risk.

    Also, quite a few people who go down on a woman are not men. Women who do so are just as likely to get infected as men who do so - HPV doesn`t care what sex you are.

    HPV infection can go the other way too - from mouth to genitals.

    Having said that, it`s still a very small risk. The type of throat (not really oral - the article is misleading there as well) cancer caused by a few strains of HPV is rare but oral sex is very common.
  83. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
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    March 11, 2011 at 5:51 pm
    @Angilion STFU. First off obhwfgirl never said she wanted to "trade sex", you did. She said that she expected a partner to reciprocate, not that she expected him to reciprocate immediately. Even if she did insist on immediate reciprocation it is none of your business because the last time I check she wasn`t asking you to have sex with her. I honestly doubt many people do.

    Secondly stop ripping off my posts you misogynist f-ck tard.
  84. Profile photo of braindamaged
    braindamaged Male 18-29
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    March 12, 2011 at 6:46 am
    You`re right NotTHATbored, it was inappropriate of me to make such a flippant statement about a serious topic. Having one strain certainly wouldn`t protect you from another, so getting vaccinated is smart, but there are so many strains out there. The vaccine only covers for strains 6, 11, 16, and 18 though. Two of which cause cancer and two that don`t, so getting vaccinated doesn`t provide complete protection.

    And Kouhaiji, it`s obvious that the virus causes cancer and not oral sex itself. I didn`t get the impression that the article was saying that. I think your reading comprehension skills are poor if that`s what you got out of the article.
  85. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 12, 2011 at 7:57 pm
    @Angilion STFU. First off obhwfgirl never said she wanted to "trade sex", you did.

    She was making sex contigent on something else - that is trading sex.

    Make up whatever you like - that`s what it is.

    Even if she did insist on immediate reciprocation it is none of your business

    It`s a public forum. It`s anyone`s business.

    Secondly stop ripping off my posts you misogynist f-ck tard.

    I am genuinely interested in what deranged leaps of nonsense led you to believe that was a reasonable comment. Do you really believe there`s any truth in it or do you just like slandering people on a whim? Or maybe you have no idea what any of the words mean?

    It`s a genuine question. You spew defamatory nonsense at me for no apparent reason and pretend it has anything to do with anything I`ve written. I`d really like to know why.
  86. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
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    March 13, 2011 at 9:16 pm
    @Angilion

    You`re an idiot and a misogynist if you think that a women doesn`t deserve to be equally sexually satisfied (orally) in a relationship.

    You`re an idiot and a misogynist if you think that men shouldn`t have to give back when they receive in a relationship, sexually or emotionally.

    People who fulfill the needs of others, deserve to have their needs met as well.

    Relationships should be equal.

    All take and no give makes Jack a sh-tty person.

    There, I hope I`ve cleared that up for you.

    All I can say is that OBVIOUSLY, a women who wants to be sexually satisfied threatens you. I think we both know what that implies, maybe you should think about it.

    Anyway I`ve said my piece.

    Have a good life consecutively over posting on I-A-B and ripping off other people`s posts to try and pass off as your own.

  87. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
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    March 13, 2011 at 9:17 pm
    @Braindamaged No worries, I don`t think anyone on I-A-B would have got vaccinated anyway. Unfortunately, for the most part there is an astonishing lack of intelligence on these boards ;-)
  88. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2011 at 12:23 am
    She was making sex contigent on something else - that is trading sex.

    Sorry Angillion but no. She was requiring oral sex by women (at least her anyway) on men (not sex in general) be contigent specifically on men giving it to women. Not money, not anal, not anything else.

    You`re an idiot and a misogynist if you think that a women doesn`t deserve to be equally sexually satisfied (orally) in a relationship.
    You`re an idiot and a misogynist if you think that men shouldn`t have to give back when they receive in a relationship, sexually or emotionally.

    On the other hand that right there is a hasty generalization and ad hominem rolled into one.
  89. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2011 at 2:19 am
    NotTHATbored:

    Now I see the problem. You`re a liar and a bigot who likes to spew out the sex card because you have nothing else.

    I`m not going to charge anyone I`m having sex with in any way or try to coerce them into doing any sexual activity they don`t want to do. I`ve no interest in doing the former and I think the latter is morally wrong.

    You can call that misogynist if you like, but that only shows what a lowlife you are.

    Do you treat women the same way? Or are you a misandrist who`s spewing out false accusations of misogyny to try to cover up her own bigotry?

    Do you require the power trip of coercing a man into sex in order to be satisfied? I assure you that isn`t normal. Many women are sexually satisfied without that, with sexual activity their partners want to do.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 2:27 am
    Sorry Angillion but no. She was requiring oral sex by women (at least her anyway) on men (not sex in general) be contigent specifically on men giving it to women. Not money, not anal, not anything else.

    And?

    Different people trade for different things, depending on what they want.

    I`ve no problem with honestly charging for sex acts.

    I`ve no problem with people consensually acting out fantasies of it.

    I`ve no problem with people consensually choosing to "have" to do a sex act someone else tells them to do or with people consensually choosing other dom/sub activities within a relationship.

    I do have a problem with it being patronisingly advocated as the ideal in relationships for real, not as a consensual sex game.

    I`d be appalled if my partner thought they had to do something sexual they didn`t want to do in order to get something from me.

    I`m also saddened that there are people like NotTHAT
  91. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 2:30 am
    Cut off as usual:

    I`m also saddened that there are people like NotTHATbored who think that`s sexual equality. Although presumably only when it`s women imposing it on men.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 3:53 am
    Also, if it`s such a wonderful idea why only apply it to one thing?

    How about "if you want to cuddle, you have to drink my pee."

    Or "if you want me to show you any affection, you have to turn tricks for me"?

    Or "if you want that promotion, you have to get under the desk and give me oral"?

    It`s just reciprocation, right? Anyone who doesn`t approve of it must hate women, right?

    No. It`s not right at all. It`s abuse.
  93. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
    1101 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 8:14 am
    @Angilion are your thoughts really so disorganized and incoherent that you have to spew them across four consecutive posts? Really, please do think before you start typing.

    "I`d be appalled if my partner thought they had to do something sexual they didn`t want to do in order to get something from me."

    I`d be appalled if your partner expected for you to preform oral sex on them but never was willing to give it. Once again, Obhwfgirl was not saying that she expected her partner to reciprocate immediately, only that she expected him to reciprocate in general. (Or eventually).

    If you are not willing to do something for your partner you can hardy expect for them to be willing to do it to you. If you are not willing to sexually satisfy your partner then why should they have any interest in sexually satisfying you?

  94. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
    1101 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 8:20 am
    Also your examples are all completely irrelevant since in my example you are exchanging sexual satisfaction for sexual satisfaction (orally).

    So it would be more like:
    I`ll drink your pee, if you drink mine
    etc. etc.

    I hope you see the difference now, though I remain doubtful since it is clear your intelligence is somewhat lacking.

  95. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
    1101 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 8:22 am
    Truthfully I do not know why I am bothering to try and reason with a semi-retarded misogynist f-ck tard like yourself.

    (Shall I post another? Nah.)
  96. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
    1101 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 8:32 am
    Oh wait- Yes I shall! Watch me try to overwhelm this message board with utter bull poo! Wow, I must be smart if I have so much to say!

    P.S.

    You`re an idiot and a misogynist if you think that a women doesn`t deserve to be equally sexually satisfied (orally) in a relationship.

    Your an even BIGGER idiot if you think that only one person should have their sexual needs met in a relationship. Unless- your a misogynist f-ck tard like you who is threatened by a woman who wants to be sexually satisfied, calls them derogatory terms to make himself feel better, and only has a relationship with his hand.
  97. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
    1101 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 8:41 am
    Again!

    Your an idiot who does not understand the phrase I`ll scratch your back if you scratch mine. There is a fundamental understanding by scientists that in all human relationships partners weigh the cost/benefit ratio. If one puts in more and receives less then they have a negative cost/benefit ratio and are unlikely to stay in that relationship (for obvious reasons). Hence if your sexual cost/benefit ratio is negative you are unlikely to stay in that relationship or to continue fulfilling your partners needs.

    Sex is a fundamental part of romantic human relationships. If one partner is not sexually satisfied then from an evolutionary perspective they have less of a reason to maintain that relationship then the person who is sexually satisfied.

    What you are advocating is that unbalanced human relationships are okay, and scientifically speaking we know that this is just not true.
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    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
    1101 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 8:42 am
    Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah ...
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    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
    1101 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 8:45 am
    *You`re* not "your"
  100. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
    1101 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 8:46 am
    Yes you do hate women if you expect for them to be willing to give you oral sex without being willing to return the favor, that is correct.
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    HumboldtPie Male 18-29
    311 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 5:26 pm
    (who is she talking to?) O.o
  102. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 5:29 pm
    Thank you for once again proving that you are a hypocrite as well as a bigot and a liar.

    You really are a bottom-feeding lowlife.

    I realise that I should just leave you to crawl back under your rock, but I have another question for you:

    You think it is hatred of women to think that it is wrong for a woman to abuse a man`s emotional ties to him as a tool to coerce him into sexual activities he doesn`t want to do. You have said so repeatedly and vehemently, so you clearly mean it.

    Do you think it is hatred of men to think that it is wrong for a man to abuse a woman`s emotional ties to him as a tool to coerce her into sexual activities she doesn`t want to do?

    In other words, do you add more sexist hypocrisy to your rather unpleasant ideas of what constitutes an ideal relationship?

    I`m betting that you do.
  103. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 5:31 pm
    (who is she talking to?) O.o

    A person who she has made up and is pretending is me for the purposes of defaming me.

    I think it`s wrong to use another person`s feelings as a lever to coerce them into sexual activity they don`t want to do because that would get you off.

    She`s claiming that means I hate women.

    Obviously, she`s a deeply unpleasant person.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25408 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 6:07 pm
    you gotta do what you gotta do
  105. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
    1101 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 9:05 pm
    @Angilion

    "I realize that I should just leave you to crawl back under your rock."

    "You really are a bottom-feeding lowlife."

    Ha ha really p-ssed you off didn`t I?

    Good, that`s what I was aiming for. :-)

    Look Angilion- it all comes down to this. I really don`t care if you eat the dried out poon tang that you occasionally manage to get at your age, but a man who asks for oral sex without being willing to give it is a prude and a bad lover. A man who thinks that a woman who asks for oral sex, pleasure, in return for giving it is a "prostitute" CLEARLY has some underlying issues with women and some very misogynist ideas. I would say that you are threatened by a women who expects sexual satisfaction. So really it is what it is- and most normal human beings would agree.

    If you are so righteous though and you don`t believe in "coercing sexual favors" then why would think that a partner was wrong fo
  106. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
    1101 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 9:12 pm
    If you are so righteous though and you don`t believe in "coercing sexual favors" then why would think that a woman is wrong for not wanting to do give oral sex when they can never expect to receive it back?

    Do you just say to your partner "Hey you`re a prostitute"? Because your mad that they won`t scratch your back all the time without having their back scratched? Now that is coercion.

    Sounds like your a pretty selfish person too.

    Anywho- I`m younger than you, I`m smarter than you, my sex life is safer than yours, my sex life is better than yours, my partner is better than any you could manage, and I am willing to bet that I get a whole lot more oral. So in the end your misogynist a-- loses in the game of life Angilion.

    :-)
  107. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
    1101 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 9:18 pm
    Give and ya shall receive. It`s a good principal for life. If you don`t give you can`t just expect to keep receiving.

    I expect you have learned this the hard way.

    Ob girl threatens you because she knows what she wants out of a relationship, sexually, and if she doesn`t get it then she`s not willing to stick around and put effort (oral) into someone else`s pleasure.

    Maybe it makes you feel insecure because you don`t have that certainty? Maybe you don`t like a woman having sexual power because you don`t have much sex or power.

    Who knows...???

  108. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 10:46 pm
    Ha ha really p-ssed you off didn`t I?

    Good, that`s what I was aiming for.

    So you`re just trolling.

    Well done. You`ve realised that sexism and abuse offend and anger me. Whoopie-do for you. Have a cookie.

    Well, at least it`s better than you really being the foul bigot you`ve been pretending to be.

    You are pretending, right?
  109. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 10:51 pm
    If you aren`t just trolling and you really do require coercing your partner into things they don`t want to do in order for you to get off, then your claims of superiority are clearly delusional.

    If you aren`t just trolling and you really do think that it`s hatred of women to consider it wrong to coerce people into sexual activity they don`t want to do, then your claims of superiority are clearly delusional.

    You`re also obsessed with oral sex for some reason, but that`s a far more minor thing than the above two.

    Bottom line:

    Either you`re trolling or you`re an extremely unpleasant person who gets off on coercing people into sex and who likes making false accusations.
  110. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    March 14, 2011 at 10:57 pm
    Also, don`t think I haven`t noticed that you`ve refused to clarify your position on how much sexism you add to your opinion on coercing people into sexual acts they don`t want to do.

    It`s because your sexism is total, isn`t it? You think it`s so great when a woman does it to a man that it`s hatred of women to object to it. You think completely differently about a man doing it to a woman, don`t you?
  111. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
    1101 posts
    March 15, 2011 at 1:21 am
    @Angilion

    I am half trolling.

    While it really is hilarious to make you angry and watch you post all kinds of bogus examples and unintelligible garb in an attempt to defend your view point, I also know I`m right.

    Anyway sex therapists agree, a relationship where both partners take turns satisfying each others sexual needs (oral or otherwise) is a healthy relationship.

    A relationship where one partner withholds sexual pleasure from the other and then expects to be sexually satisfied themselves is an unhealthy relationship.

    Thus it is unhealthy for a person to be expected
    to sexually satisfy their partner without being sexually satisfied themselves. It creates the sense that one`s needs are not equal.

    Besides there is really no reason why a man should not want to perform oral sex on his partner when he is fine with the practice on himself.

    Ask any sexual therapist. I am right. The End.

  112. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    March 15, 2011 at 1:59 am
    @Angillion and NotTHATBored

    Com`on you two


    "I earned my mustache, I`d like it back please."
  113. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    March 15, 2011 at 2:26 am
    A relationship where one partner withholds sexual pleasure from the other and then expects to be sexually satisfied themselves is an unhealthy relationship.

    But you`re the only person who`s made any mention of such a relationship. So who are you arguing with?
  114. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    March 15, 2011 at 2:31 am
    Besides there is really no reason why a man should not want to perform oral sex on his partner when he is fine with the practice on himself.

    Yes there is, just as there are reasons why a woman might not want to perform oral sex on a man when she`s fine with him going down on her, or the same with two men or with two women, or the same for any other sexual activity.

    The reason is a simple one - people should not be coerced into any sexual activity they don`t like.

    At least, I think they shouldn`t. You clearly see no problem with coercing men into sex they don`t like.
  115. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    March 15, 2011 at 2:41 am
    Also, what about BDSM? Granted, some BDSMers switch, but not all do. By your argument, every BDSMer must switch 50/50 *even if neither person wants to*. You really think that`s healthy?

    I spent some years in a relationship with a woman who didn`t like fellatio. Some people don`t, that`s just how it is. Do you think I should have refused cunnilingus even though we both liked it? Why? What purpose would that have served? Should I ring her up now and tell her she owes me maybe a couple of hundred blowjobs whether she likes it or not?

    I regard your position as abuse, simple as that.
  116. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
    1101 posts
    March 15, 2011 at 10:18 am
    @Angilion Blah, blah, blah.

    Look- I personally don`t care what you did (or say that you did) behind closed doors with your so called girlfriend.

    But, you certainly would not have been a "prostitute" if you had told her that you did not want to give her oral sex because you felt that it was unfair for it to be a one way deal.

    If you liked it and wanted to do it then more power to you, but if you only felt lukewarm about doing it then perhaps you would have said I do not want to put in the effort without any return.

    Or if you absolutely wanted oral sex sometimes in your relationship it may have been a deal breaker.

    Just because you settled for a relationship where you did not receive oral sex does not mean that everyone wants to do that.

    People are entitled to walk away from relationships for any reason, or decline to preform sexual favors for any reason they so deem worthy. It does not make them "prostitutes".
  117. Profile photo of NotTHATbored
    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
    1101 posts
    March 15, 2011 at 10:21 am
    P.S. You`re still a misogynist f-ck tard that`s intimidated by a woman who demands equal sexual satisfaction. You can whine about what you did for your girlfriend all you want, no normal person would say that Obgirl was being unreasonable or that she should preform oral sex regardless of whether she wanted to or not without return.

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