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115 Responses to Knut The Polar Bear Dies

  1. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:08 pm
    Link: Knut The Polar Bear Dies - Amateur footage (with a nasty watermark) captures the last few seconds of Knut`s life. Very sad.
  2. Profile photo of Zuki
    Zuki Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:16 pm
    Who is this bear and why do I care?
  3. Profile photo of EntrE
    EntrE Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    :(
  4. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    Was it a fun trip to the zoo, Kids ?

    What`d ya see?

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    Listypoos Male 40-49
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    yeah but didn`t he die minutes after having a threesome?

    if so he was only a bottle of JD and a packet of smokes away from the perfect end game.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:19 pm
    whoa
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    motorpsycho Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:21 pm
    hes got no tigerblood
  8. Profile photo of Oblivia
    Oblivia Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:25 pm
    Reminded me of how my rabbit died...
    Rest in peace Bonbon and Knut!
  9. Profile photo of sgibson12
    sgibson12 Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:25 pm
    that`s terrible!
  10. Profile photo of ggolbez
    ggolbez Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:26 pm
    Why would I want to see this? I mean, yea, it`s a drating bear. But no one wants to watch this. I would ask IAB to take this down. Not to censor it, but this is an entertainment site. Anyone who finds entertainment in this is sick.
  11. Profile photo of SarahofBorg
    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:28 pm
    Never heard of him. Figured this was a joke, but nope it`s really a video of a polar bear acting weird and then keeling over. Whatever.
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    malikymoo Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:30 pm
    ive seen a llama keel over and die at a zoo, scarred. for. life.
  13. Profile photo of Helgarin
    Helgarin Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:31 pm
    You spin me right round baby right round
  14. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:32 pm
    That was left.
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    Zieveraar Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:33 pm
    Knut, the polar bear, got famous because his mother rejected him after birth and he was raised by a human. Nothing special but there was a rather odd uproar of some animal right extremists calling for his death as they said it was completely unnatural and Knut would never be a true polar bear.

    This video is indeed of no entertainment value whatsoever, although there`s been more of those on this site. It`s just sad really, but that`s just me.
  16. Profile photo of MechBFP
    MechBFP Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:35 pm
    "but this is an entertainment site."
    Actually its a site about being bored, hence the name "i-am-bored".
    Idiot.
  17. Profile photo of ED-209
    ED-209 Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:40 pm
    "I guess life was a little to much...(puts on sunglasses)...for him to bear." YEEEEEEAAAAAHHHH!!!
  18. Profile photo of Zieveraar
    Zieveraar Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:42 pm
    "I guess life was a little to much...(puts on sunglasses)...for him to bear." YEEEEEEAAAAAHHHH!!!



    Suddenly it`s all a little less sad! Nice one.
  19. Profile photo of noxert323
    noxert323 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:43 pm
    I agree, but boredom shouldn`t be quenched by death.
  20. Profile photo of FemBot
    FemBot Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:47 pm
    Looks like he had a heart-attack.
  21. Profile photo of DasUberPoop
    DasUberPoop Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:47 pm
    Worst thing ever. Hate it.
  22. Profile photo of TheGrinder
    TheGrinder Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:47 pm
    that sucks ):
  23. Profile photo of conniep
    conniep Female 50-59
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:47 pm
    it appears he had a seizure and drown
  24. Profile photo of RuralNinja
    RuralNinja Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:52 pm
    And Ed-209 suddenly turns something sad into `make me choke on mtn dew` funny.
  25. Profile photo of Sonic2001
    Sonic2001 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    Either taken down or needs an adult rating or warning
  26. Profile photo of SaintsFan
    SaintsFan Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:56 pm
    "This video is indeed of no entertainment value whatsoever, although there`s been more of those on this site. It`s just sad really, but that`s just me."

    I couldn`t agree more. It`s disturbing to watch and it is sad to see him suffer. Anyone who finds humor in this needs to re-evaluate their priorities and value system. Suffering of any animal is sick and twisted.
  27. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 4:57 pm
    Holy crap. Madest is a red now?

    I am perma banned now I guess. So is 5cats and Crakr.
  28. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 5:02 pm
    Holy crap. Madest is a red now? I am perma banned now I guess. So is 5cats and Crakr.
    Oh, stop whining. As much as you would like to have people believe that Madest is a power-hungry lout, I`m sorry to tell you that he`s an adult and is quite capable of being impartial. Heck, he even approves many of 5Cats` Über-conservative far-right wing links, complete with original submitted inflammatory descriptions.

    I think you`ll be safe enough, AJ.
  29. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 5:08 pm
    K thanks.
  30. Profile photo of zekumi
    zekumi Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 5:09 pm
    @MechBFP: Ehm, maybe I`m missing something here, but isn`t the cure for boredom entertainment? :P

    Unless your post was intended to be sarcastic.
  31. Profile photo of EntrE
    EntrE Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 5:20 pm
    you know entertainment doesn`t necessarily have to make you laugh. otherwise horror movies would not be called entertainment, but clearly they are.
  32. Profile photo of Ani187
    Ani187 Female 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 5:28 pm
    oh my god...what happened to him?
  33. Profile photo of NottaSpy
    NottaSpy Male 40-49
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    March 21, 2011 at 5:30 pm
    I knew he died, but watching the video I was kind of hoping that someone would be able to help him in time.
  34. Profile photo of cobrakiller
    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    why the hell did i watch this. that was terrifyingly depressing.
  35. Profile photo of blckhawk1234
    blckhawk1234 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 5:45 pm
    OMG!! POLAR BEARS DIE!!!??? EVEN IN CAPTIVITY?!??!?!?!?
  36. Profile photo of DShephard
    DShephard Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 5:46 pm
    If polar bears spin around they have seizures?
    I don`t know the story of this guy but.. Well now I feel sad.
  37. Profile photo of ruthless1990
    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 5:58 pm
    :`(
  38. Profile photo of deadbass72
    deadbass72 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 6:00 pm
    global warming. nuff said
  39. Profile photo of c0sm0aut
    c0sm0aut Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 6:05 pm
    Hahahahaha that was the best Awwww, of the day ever!
  40. Profile photo of Angelmassb
    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 6:06 pm
    Is always sad when a polar bear dies
  41. Profile photo of Boredered
    Boredered Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 6:13 pm
    HOW THE HELL!?
  42. Profile photo of dshieh
    dshieh Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 6:26 pm
    It`s great to see millions saddened over the death of this polar bear whos no difference from the thousands of polar animals being slaughtered every year.. so cry me a drating river because your hypocrisy is sickening
  43. Profile photo of SilverThread
    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 6:27 pm
    Trapped in a Goddamned cage, surrounded by screaming, foul smelling creatures that harass and antagonize you, and stuck in a climate you were not engineered for.

    Yeah, death would seem like a good deal to me too.
  44. Profile photo of Ripper398
    Ripper398 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 6:38 pm
    momma always said not to spin in a circle too many times.. wait.. too soon, isn`t it? You`re not going to fire me from my voiceover as a toilet turd are you?
  45. Profile photo of yellowsquare
    yellowsquare Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 6:46 pm
    Dshieh, you might want to think about your statement for a second. People now see what it looks like when a captive polar bear dies and can apply that image to the wild polar bears dying. Maybe now global warming has a real image for some people.

    In any case, I echo SilverThread`s comment. I always walk into a zoo excited to see the animals, and I always leave feeling terrible and guilty. I don`t think zoos are healthy for animals, and Knut was unfortunately probably an example. :(
  46. Profile photo of techgeek07
    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 6:55 pm
    That was horrible
  47. Profile photo of WorldOfJames
    WorldOfJames Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 6:56 pm
    i reckon he just got dizzy and fell over
  48. Profile photo of IceDragon77
    IceDragon77 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 7:14 pm
    Looks like a seizure, he was foaming from the mouth (You can see it dripping if you look closely). So sad.
  49. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 21, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    I wanna be a moderator. How much does it pay?

    are their fringe benefits? For instance, could I torment Auburnjunky?
  50. Profile photo of Llamaz
    Llamaz Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2011 at 7:28 pm
    "Derp, zoos is the worst ever their jailz liek four bad people but they no deserve it!!!"

    Most zoo animals have an easy, carefree life. They are well-fed, they don`t have to hunt or search for food, and they are usually very well taken care of. The zoo environment had nothing to do with the probable seizure this bear had. Not all zoos are the incarnate of evil that people seem to see them as. Of course there are some that don`t have good conditions or keep the animals entertained, but those are only a small fraction of all zoos.
  51. Profile photo of grapehead
    grapehead Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 7:35 pm
    :((((((((((((((((((((((
  52. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 7:35 pm
    Ugh, now depressed. I can watch a million people getting slaughtered and not blink, but this stuff sucks for me.
  53. Profile photo of techgeek07
    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 7:35 pm
    a few more facts about zoo raised polar bears and of course knut who was given up by his mother as a cub my knuts
  54. Profile photo of SilverThread
    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 7:46 pm
    Llamaz,

    Wild animals are not lazy, infantile creatures content with the banality of a life of ease. They are designed and engineered to endure and even prosper under rigorous hardship imposed by a world that has exacting demands and a supreme penalty for failure.

    Do not make the mistake of believing that a polar bear, who`s natural range is measured in hundreds of miles and consists of some of the harshest environments on earth, will be happy in an enclosure.

    Imagine if an alien creature were to pluck you from where you are right now, place you in a synthetic setting approximating your natural habitat the size of your room, and do little more than tend to your well being while leaving you alone, essentially bereft of any real contact.

    It is not a life worth living, and any creature with a degree of self awareness is going to realize that it is trapped, against it`s will. It`s not a state of mind that is conductive to healthy living.
  55. Profile photo of videogamer
    videogamer Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 7:50 pm
    Aw, and he was worth 1/29th of a Sickle, too.
  56. Profile photo of collegebound
    collegebound Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 8:05 pm
    grungy...
  57. Profile photo of IshiiDaFishy
    IshiiDaFishy Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 8:18 pm
    `Ugh, now depressed. I can watch a million people getting slaughtered and not blink, but this stuff sucks for me.`

    Same here, man.
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    nimrod1991 Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 8:50 pm
    awe :(
  59. Profile photo of jessly424
    jessly424 Female 13-17
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    March 21, 2011 at 9:21 pm
    o god =(
    this wouldn`t be as sad if Knut had been living a content/free life in its own natural habitat. R.I.P.
  60. Profile photo of Lolboy
    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
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    March 21, 2011 at 9:45 pm
    T_____T
  61. Profile photo of goaliejerry
    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 10:04 pm
    This is horrific. He`s suffering and in pain, drooling and disoriented. Why the f*ck did you show this to me? I thought there was an angle, a trick, no, it was just a suffering animal dying in pain. Way to f*cking go.

    Boo. Boo I say. For shame.
  62. Profile photo of TokenBabe
    TokenBabe Female 30-39
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    March 21, 2011 at 10:24 pm
    I will not watch this. It is too sad and a little cruel to post this. Poor Knut.
  63. Profile photo of test-user564
    test-user564 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 10:25 pm
    the best cause i got was that he just heard Rebecca Blacks "Friday"
  64. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 10:35 pm
    o god =(
    this wouldn`t be as sad if Knut had been living a content/free life in its own natural habitat. R.I.P.

    where his chances of dying younger would of skyrocketed
  65. Profile photo of leesah
    leesah Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 10:38 pm
    This is honest to god one of the most disturbing things I`ve ever seen, that is seriously effed up.
  66. Profile photo of lee-schizo
    lee-schizo Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 10:51 pm
    that makes me wanna cry so badly.
  67. Profile photo of GreyYes
    GreyYes Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 10:58 pm
    saw this on the news today, he had a seizure and drowned :-( poor thing was pretty young
  68. Profile photo of Cygna
    Cygna Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2011 at 11:47 pm
    I`m not gonna watch it either...
    When I read it I was so SAD - Japan just shocked me, but Knut really hit it :(

    Hear he died of a broken heart after his keeper died and after they took his mate away and he had to live with three old female bears (imagine living with your old ma, your nana and your mother-in-law after your spouse went away!)

    Poor Knut T^T
  69. Profile photo of Naitsirhc88
    Naitsirhc88 Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 12:02 am
    Looks like Knut had a stroke, or some thing . My 20 year old dog was doing the same thing. Tragic
  70. Profile photo of Kleidermotte
    Kleidermotte Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 12:20 am
    This is not sad at all! It is an animal! Animals die in quite young ages! (Except turtles, if not eaten) I really do not shed a tear at all. It is in fact just an white, thick, (dead) animal! Don`t get me wrong, I don`t want animals to die, but I don`t care. I care about humans. I shed a tear now and then when I read the newspaper. But not over the death of... well. You get me.
  71. Profile photo of KillerCactus
    KillerCactus Female 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 12:23 am
    D:
  72. Profile photo of Buiadh
    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2011 at 12:46 am
    Didn`t really want to see that tbh
  73. Profile photo of Halfacookie
    Halfacookie Male 13-17
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    March 22, 2011 at 1:05 am
    @Kleidermotte, Humans are just animals... And i personally would care less about my humans dieing (we`ve got about 4 billion to many of them) then some other animal that is on the verge of extinction. Yes, i wouldnt care about dieing myself. And yes, i would be sad when somebody i know dies. And no, i dont actively try to achieve their deaths. But in context its less of a big deal.
  74. Profile photo of DeathToLems
    DeathToLems Female 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 1:55 am
    i had to re read that because i thought it said Kunt. sorry, I`m british.
  75. Profile photo of Intaresting
    Intaresting Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 2:18 am
    Sorry, my empathy stops at billions of people who are sad over the death of one polar bear while thousands of people are dying somewhere else. FTW
  76. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 2:42 am
    "o god =(
    this wouldn`t be as sad if Knut had been living a content/free life in its own natural habitat. R.I.P.

    where his chances of dying younger would of skyrocketed"

    If I offered you a chance to double your lifespan, but you would have to live every day of the rest of your life in a prison cell, would you accept my offer?

    Freedom is worth more than life...you`re a f**king American; you of all people should know that. You founded your frigging country on it.
  77. Profile photo of Fleaman1797
    Fleaman1797 Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 3:24 am
    Well. i had no drating idea clicking this i was actually going to SEE a real creature drating die. this day just got off to a WONDERFUL start! i mean I-A-B posts (cat shot with hand gun) and we ALL know its something drating cute, i come to this video and i get to watch a polar bear have a fit and F-U-C-KING DIE! thanks!!!
  78. Profile photo of Fleaman1797
    Fleaman1797 Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 3:28 am
    Btw, whoever POSTED this video, thanks a bunch. you could have had (SAD WARNING) or something added to the drating title, you really just bummed out like thousands of people. you should be REALLY happy with yourself. the video should have said (Kunt Posts Knut the polar Bear having a fit and Dying) that would have been WAY more Accurate.
  79. Profile photo of SvampeBob
    SvampeBob Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 3:30 am
    knut who?
    just like Intaresting said I can`t really feel sad for a drating bear when there are child, women and men dieng every day over food and water.
    no mater what you beliv in we are a big family
    humans > animals
  80. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2011 at 3:42 am
    Your anger at this warms my PETA loving heart. Thanx.
  81. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2011 at 4:18 am
    @Gerry: You can`t torment me man. I love you.
  82. Profile photo of TR-Wolf
    TR-Wolf Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 4:24 am
    Jesus, I didn`t think it was going to be the actual footage of it dying.

    Tragic :(
  83. Profile photo of GodDamnDevil
    GodDamnDevil Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2011 at 5:15 am
    Ring around the rosies,
    pocket full of of posies,
    ashes,ashes,we all fall down






  84. Profile photo of DJDoubleb
    DJDoubleb Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2011 at 5:48 am
    Jeeze, ya douchebags, is it not possible to be sad for humans and a polar bear at the same time? You have a limit on the amount of emotions you fell?
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2011 at 6:04 am
    I hope that isnt real
  86. Profile photo of Oystah
    Oystah Female 40-49
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    March 22, 2011 at 6:10 am
    Ooooohhh - why why why why did I watch that? :`(
  87. Profile photo of GHudston
    GHudston Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 6:36 am
    @Musuko42

    I think that, given all the details, most humans would choose captivity.

    The prison cell that you`re describing is actually a simulated environment with everything that you`d need to survive available to you at all times, including food and medical care. It`s not perfect, but it`s hardly a "prison cell" by any stretch of the imagination.

    The alternative is living in the wild. Sure, you are "free" but you have to fend for yourself. You`ll need to either hunt, scavenge or steal the food that you eat, which doesn`t come along all that often, the odds of you dying of starvation are significant and if you get sick or injured you`re as good as dead.

    The more that I think about it, life as a wild animal must be absolutely miserable nearly all of the time.
  88. Profile photo of Thorgrimmer
    Thorgrimmer Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 6:38 am
    "Sorry, my empathy stops at billions of people who are sad over the death of one polar bear while thousands of people are dying somewhere else. FTW"

    That is exactly the kind of anthropocentric thinking that allows such terrible things as zoos to exist.

    All life is precious, not just human life. Because as far as we know, it is rare.
  89. Profile photo of andynaylor
    andynaylor Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 7:05 am
    If polar bears are dying out in the wild and the responsibility does land on human industrial development causing climate change is it not also our responsibility to preserve the wildlife we may have endangered in the process. Placing animals, birds, reptiles etc into simulated environments allows us to study how they react under certain conditions. Not only giving the opportunity to breed, but also to perfect the conditions needed so that when the technology exists we can create a man made natural environments for them to be reintegrated into the wild. Regardless of your opinion of climate change or the reasoning behind endangered species, this is still very very sad footage.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 7:46 am
    Looks like the poor guy had a seizure. :(
  91. Profile photo of jackbutlers
    jackbutlers Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 7:59 am
    I thought he was just dizzy to start with.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 22, 2011 at 8:25 am

    It reminds me of the Fainting Kitties... except they kept getting up and doing it again and the bear stayed down.
  93. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 8:27 am
    All life is precious, not just human life. Because as far as we know, it is rare.
    All life is precious, yes. But not equally precious. I value human life over non-human life. This is still a sad video, because I don`t like seeing an animal suffer, but I still would save one human life over any number of animals.
  94. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2011 at 8:34 am
    @andynaylor: Who knows. Maybe animals becoming extinct is the natural order of things, and humans stepping in a stopping it is what`s drating everything up.
  95. Profile photo of ED-209
    ED-209 Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2011 at 9:13 am
    :All life is precious, not just human life. Because as far as we know, it is rare."

    I never understood that sentiment. How exactly is life precious? And if you do follow that, whar makes us any better then the millions of other species of life on the planet?

  96. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2011 at 9:21 am
    "whar makes us any better then the millions of other species of life on the planet?"

    Oh I dunno. Maybe the fact that we are the top of the food chain? Maybe the we are the top of the everything chain on this planet. We are the dominant species. We can eradicate any species we choose, but none can do the same to us.

    Those are just some of the ways that we are better.
  97. Profile photo of GHudston
    GHudston Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 9:27 am
    I consider human beings to be better than all other life on the planet simply because I am one. That is the only reason for anyone to say such a thing.
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    hammerdrop Male 13-17
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    March 22, 2011 at 9:29 am
    This has no place on this website.
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    panth753 Female 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 9:36 am
    Now that I`m depressed...
  100. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 9:41 am
    I never understood that sentiment. How exactly is life precious?
    Anything rare is precious, and this is the only planet we know of which has life. Rarity confers value.

    And if you do follow that, whar makes us any better then the millions of other species of life on the planet?
    I didn`t say we were better than the other species. I said I value human life more, simply because I am human. Every species has the instinct to preserve its own kind and ensure the survival of the species.

    Conversely, if Thorgrimmer genuinely believes all life is equally precious, then is his eyes I am a murderer, since I swatted a fly the other week.
    But then he is also a murderer, if his immune system has ever killed off attacking bacteria.

    When I put it like that, it`s clear that nobody considers all life equal. Therefore it`s down to where we draw the line. I draw it at homo sapiens because that makes the most sense to me.
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    Xpekt Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 10:36 am
    im with hammerdrop.
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    NottaSpy Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2011 at 11:31 am
    @auburnjunky, ahh the might makes right argument. We are better because we can kill all of them?

    1st, you are wrong. We can`t even keep bed bugs from our hotels, much less eradicate anything we want. Let`s hear it, you have the full resources of the human race at your command, how would you eradicate bed bugs? BTW, wouldn`t bed bugs be the top of the food chain?

    2nd, there are organisms that aren`t in the food chain. A good argument could be made that they are better than us since we depend on fragile ecosystems to survive. I could even make the argument that we are the worst of life since we have the unique ability to eradicate ourselves.

    When we get a superiority complex and think that we are separate, or above, the animals is when we make the most progress in destroying the very food chain that we need to live. If we eradicate life then we will soon follow, but if we disappear life will go on without us.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2011 at 11:39 am
    @nottaspy:

    True about bedbugs, but can they eradicate us?

    There is not a single creature on the planet, that we could not at least "defend" ourselves from, while killing untold numbers of them.

    Say for instance, bedbugs. If they over-ran the earth, we could sanitize an area, isolate that area, and poison the rest of the planet. Sure, that would be bad, but we have the technology to go on in that scenario. They do not.

    My point is, we have the intelligence to use tools and technology to maintain an upper hand.
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    artillery Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    Seeing something die is not entertaining, I agree, but it did spark my interest. I had never herd of Knut before this and was interested in the reason why it had made it onto any website. Normally things like this only make it onto "Gore Gallery" or whatever it`s like is nowadays. So why?

    This animal was famous because it was abandoned by it`s mother shortly after birth and was raised entirely by humans.

    He lived a short 4 years after a life expectancy of 30+ years for polar bears in captivity.

    This really sparked my interest. Does anyone think that the mother knew something was wrong with it early on and that was the reason she abandoned Knut (and his unnamed brother which died mere weeks after it was born) in the first place?

    There is some precedent for animals being able to tell that there is something significantly wrong with their offspring earlier than medical science even can. What does IAB think?
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    valleybronco Female 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 1:26 pm
    :( poor thing, this is so sad.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2011 at 1:31 pm
    "What does IAB think?"

    I think it`s weird that it is naturally acceptable for parents of offspring that have something wrong with them to abandon them. What would happen if a human did this?
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    artillery Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 1:45 pm
    I think most would say it is inhumane to abandon children. Which is why humans who do this, and there are those monsters out there who have abandoned a child before, are considered monsters, or less than human in some way.

    Nature can be a cruel thing, and animals understand that. If an animals offspring doesn`t have the capacity to hunt and survive, then why "waste" the resources to raise it when it will only end up dying in the end?

    I do agree, it is inhumane, but I also believe that nature is about the furthest thing away from "Humane" as possible. Indeed, the wild is in most cases seen as evil in some way, thus why "pagan" nature worshipers were hunted in the darker parts of human history.
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    NottaSpy Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2011 at 1:57 pm
    @auburnjunky, and that is exactly what I was talking about. If you sanitize and area and poison the rest of the planet, you have problems depending on scale. If you simply try to poison the bed bugs, you will create poison resistant bed bugs and the collateral damage would permanently change ecosystems beyond their ability to adjust. The food chain would begin to collapse. If you opted for the scorched earth approach outside of your area, you would now depend on one incredibly fragile ecosystem that would probably be undone by a simple virus. Either option, your plan has killed every living human.

    My point is that nature should be respected or it will kick our ass. Nature laughs at our bombs and poisons. Until technology gets to a point where we can manufacture our own food, control the climate, and purify the air and water, we had better understand that we are apart of nature and not above it.
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    yoimmylene Female 13-17
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    March 22, 2011 at 3:01 pm
    ... ;-;
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    SapphireHart Female 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 5:02 pm
    Perhaps the reason for his mother`s rejection when he was a cub was that there has always been some underlying health problem with him? But then one would have thought the vets might have picked up on a major health problem sooner... It`s very sad though what happened.

    @auburnjuinky Nature`s primary aim is to create the strongest and fittest offspring for survival of the species, weaklings and disabled young will usually be left behind or abandoned in the animal kingdom because they will not become the strongest and best for reproduction. Harsh but natural. What would happen if a human did this? In many poorer Countries not a lot, children with something wrong with them are often seen as curses on the family and will therefore be mistreated and/or abandoned, and I have seen this first hand. However because we humans reason and think in terms of the welfare of all we have created ways to keep such offspring alive and in many cases their lives are fairly enjoyable.
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    SapphireHart Female 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 5:06 pm
    "That is exactly the kind of anthropocentric thinking that allows such terrible things as zoos to exist. "

    FAIL of the largest kind. Whilst zoos used to be primarily for human benefit, zoological parks are now primarily used for the conservation of many endangered species through breeding programs using log books to keep the gene pool as diverse as possible with wild types bred in in order to prevent loss of traits, reintroduction programs back in to the wild and are huge educational resources for learning about how to look after our planet and what is in it.
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    gyro231995 Male 13-17
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    March 22, 2011 at 5:20 pm
    LOL.
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    gyro231995 Male 13-17
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    March 22, 2011 at 5:23 pm
    LOL.
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    skyblue_15 Female 18-29
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    March 22, 2011 at 6:16 pm
    Apparently the autopsy found that he had brain problems... The mother probably knew from the moment he was born that something was wrong with him.
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    WeinerD0g Female 18-29
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    March 23, 2011 at 5:04 am
    I should NOT be laughing but I can`t help it...did it have an aneurysm? It appeared to be going around and round in circles until it seized :(
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