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103 Responses to Jessie Jackson Junior: Fixing Unemployment

  1. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 7, 2011 at 2:14 pm
    Link: Jessie Jackson Junior: Fixing Unemployment - It`s EASY! Just watch and see! This is his son from his wife, eh? Not the one from the mistress.
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    todayistodie Male 18-29
    80 posts
    March 7, 2011 at 2:33 pm
    let the political flame war commence!
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    mitha Male 18-29
    269 posts
    March 7, 2011 at 2:35 pm
    Oh this will be fun. Or not. Depending how much political bs you can endure.
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    toastertown6 Male 13-17
    57 posts
    March 7, 2011 at 2:37 pm
    Wow, he`s dumb.
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    toastertown6 Male 13-17
    57 posts
    March 7, 2011 at 2:38 pm
    Not as good as the man thinking Guam will sink though
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    March 7, 2011 at 2:38 pm
    Why should anyone have the RIGHT to something they didn`t earn?

    One has the RIGHT to life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness. They don`t have the right to be happy.
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    cloud7zero Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 2:39 pm
    raise taxes so people in the ghetto can have i pods. sounds good to me.
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    IMBudduggly Male 70 & Over
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    March 7, 2011 at 2:40 pm
    And he was elected to Congress?! What a stupid, ignoramous.
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    sickboyoao Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 2:42 pm
    and how many more taxes will each citizen have to pay to support these rights?
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    DesertWolf Male 30-39
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    March 7, 2011 at 2:47 pm
    I like the idea (or maybe ideal) of providing the "right" to everyone to have a home, healthcare and an education. But then I have to ask, what kind of house? Does each kid get there own room? Does the home require a tv (with cable paid) and/or internet for the laptop? Let`s say you have "right" to house with one bedroom for every two kids. So if you have two kids and a two bedroom house, do you get a new house when you have another child? Is there an age limit on the houses? If my house is 5 years old and my friend has a 75 year old house, is that equal?
    So, like I said, the idea sounds wonderful; however reality isn`t ideal :-? That`s my 2 cents.
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    HalfSandwich Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 2:56 pm
    well while were giving stuff away, i want free skittles saturdays, starburst wednesdays, and nude fridays for everyone who can be considered a 7+, i assume proper number delegation would be determined by the secretary of health and human services and done like ever 5 years. that`s all, thanks jessie.
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    tsiemens Male 30-39
    515 posts
    March 7, 2011 at 3:04 pm
    oh good idea, triple the national debt instantly
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    DesertWolf Male 30-39
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:04 pm
    \/ Yes i know I used "there" when it should have been "their" and missed a few "a"... but at least I caught it first? :) (I don`t see an Edit Post button anymore...)
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:06 pm
    He was elected because he`s a race-huckster in a gerrymanded district.
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:07 pm
    Add the constitutional right for all Americans to have at least $1,000,000. Then we will all be millionaires! Genius.
    While we`re at it, add the constitutional right to not have cancer, cancer cured. Nobel Peace Prize to me.
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    Buck176 Male 30-39
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:07 pm
    Wow, he is almost as ignorant as his old man. While we`re at it, lets add the right of every American to get a paycheck (not unemployment) every month whether they work or not forever. And the right for everybody to have a credit card, and the right to own a car, and the right to a three week vacation in the Bahamas, and the right to a private jet.
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    MCMXCIII Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:15 pm
    All men are born equal... or not, due to the accident of birth. Or to rephrase it, some men are more equal than others.
    So this brings us to the issue here. Should we create a level, universal platform and bring everyone up (or down) such platform, to create forced equality? Or should we just simply let nature take its course, eliminating the weak and reinforce the strong? Or perhaps, should we make a compromise between the two extremes, allowing inequality its existence, at the same time doing whatever we can to create a makeshift, unstable equality?
    However, I still fear that reality is much more than that, and solving inequality is much more than picking A B or C. The ruling class will not forgo its privileges, the ruled class will not tolerate inequalities. But without the people below, who will the ruling class rule? And without the people above, who will guide the bewildered masses into the right direction?
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:24 pm
    what a meathead
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:25 pm
    okay, did he provide a means of adding them?
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:29 pm
    Wow. What a complete fûcking moron.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:30 pm
    The United States Congress seem very busy lately. America, the forefathers dream is for every American to own an Ipod and a laptop
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    Volsunga Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:33 pm
    Don`t worry, we`ll just take all the money to pay for it from the rich. But it`s OK because they`re a minority and don`t have the representation to vote this down.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:34 pm
    How many brains cells has Jesse Jr. lost due to that gaping hole in his head called a mouth ?

    Total socialist schnook, In dire need of a cranial colonic.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:34 pm
    @MCMXCIII "some men are more equal than others."
    You said it! This guy was born with a silver spoon up his ARSE! He has never held a real job in his life, but he`s a Congressman? Sickening. And did Jessie Jackson`s BASTARD son get a free ride like this? Not hardly.

    @xiquiripat "He was elected because he`s a race-huckster in a gerrymanded district."
    Bang on! Daddy BOUGHT him that seat, lolz! Remember Blagovich?

    @DesertWolf "But then I have to ask, what kind of house?"
    Exactly. If you don`t "earn" something, it`s meaningless to you. All people on welfare DO is complain how little they`ve got. If they got a free house and free stuff, they`d STILL complain!
    Personally, I have lived "below the poverty line" MOST of my adult life. But I live within my means and own a house, car, motorcycle and provide for my cats :-)
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:38 pm
    0:50 "Building roofs and designing classrooms"

    I nearly keeled over from laughter! O-M-G this guy is totally CLUELESS (in that bad way!) and yet he represents America! Sad, tragic even.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    We need to add to the Constitution the Right to shut
    fools like this up.



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    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:40 pm
    I don`t know much about US politics, but I`m I to understand that this "constitution" of yours is some sort of magical being, not unlike a genie in a lamp, that can create things out of thin air by simply having them written on a piece of paper?
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    bigwill6709 Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 3:57 pm
    yes Paddy. That is exactly what the constitution does.
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    SaintsFan Male 30-39
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    March 7, 2011 at 4:23 pm
    Oh my God, I`m embarrassed that he is a representative. There are plenty of jobs out there it`s just that too many people think that they are better than the jobs offered. They think that they are the next American Idol. They want it given to them and not work for it and idiots like this one want to hand it to them. Why not add that everyone has a right to a big screen TV, internet, cable, free money and free gas? What a complete and TOTAL MORON!! The only reason he got the job was because of his father. I`m sorry world that we have idiots like these in positions of power. Truly embarrassing......
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    evanbartlett Male 30-39
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    March 7, 2011 at 4:29 pm
    yes Paddy. That is exactly what the constitution does.

    THIS.
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    AngryYouth Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 4:42 pm
    We should provide every student with an IPOD and a laptop? Did he just drating say that? How would an IPOD contribute to their learning? And, if every student had a laptop they would just facebook instead of listen to their teachers. A laptop is practical for college, but even college students are constantly distracted by facebook.
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    Durrell Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    @paddy215

    they certainly believe it can, and they certainly believe it can make things just magically vanish too
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    cheerios18 Female 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 4:56 pm
    The Ipod is just an exaggeration for the trickle up effect that the law would create. All the teachers had ipads at my school, and there were three laptop booths. It`s not like a drating goody bag.
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    RETARDEDBEAR Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 5:27 pm
    Welcome to the socialist mindset.

    Here`s a good clue as to whether or not something should be included as a right under the constitution: If it costs money, it isn`t a right!

    You have the right to get a job and buy a house yourself. You do not have the right to have someone else unwillingly buy that house for you.
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    RETARDEDBEAR Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 5:35 pm
    "The Ipod is just an exaggeration for the trickle up effect that the law would create."

    There is no trickling if there is no money. Giving someone a house doesn`t cause them to suddenly produce wealth. Spending more money on schools and paying the same teachers more doesn`t make your kids smarter. Giving someone free healthcare does not make them more productive.

    On the contrary, all of these things incentivize laziness.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    March 7, 2011 at 5:49 pm
    RETARDEDBEAR-"Welcome to the socialist mindset."

    Yes, the socialist mindset, where just PROCLAIMING it so will MAKE it so. (after all, it SOUNDS so simple, so it IS so simple) These same idiots do not realize that you have to PAY for such proclamations.

    They believe all wealth originates with the government, so they can do with it what they will. Just ask Michael "The Money of the Wealthy is not `theirs` it`s `ours`" Moore. (of course, `His` wealth is well, `his`.)

    They don`t even try to hide it anymore.

    We`re [email protected]
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    pete1061 Male 40-49
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    March 7, 2011 at 5:56 pm
    Can you say USSR? Sorry Mr Jackson, others have tried your ideas, and it failed miserably.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 6:46 pm
    Behold your future President :-D
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 7, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    He got a BS magna cum laude
    A masters degree at seminary college
    A Juris Doctor of law

    All this means he had to study long and hard to be this stupid

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    jfif33 Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 6:50 pm
    hey im completely new to this, but how can i get a post on iab`s main page? ie this link http://vimeo.com/7857584

    that is peter joseph, the director of the zeitgeist movies, and i think he`s possibly the most enlightening person on the planet at the moment

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    shappy Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 6:53 pm
    wow, reading the comments here just makes me lose hope for you. A lot of you are pulling poo out of your ass trying to defend something you have no clue about or trying to avoid helping people improve their lives. yes things cost money but you know what? that`s why you pay taxes as a citizen of the country. or, at least, you should, but judging by what you`re saying, you don`t. good luck with your angry life.
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    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    March 7, 2011 at 6:59 pm
    Someone actually voted for this guy???
  43. Profile photo of shappy
    shappy Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 6:59 pm
    Edit: just to clarify, im not saying this guy is right, im just saying that some people here are making him look smart...
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    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 6:59 pm
    i agree with what he says
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    Kodyo Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 7:11 pm
    They should add the right to not feel self entitled, how many black people would that change. Me thinks none.
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    MCMXCIII Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 7:14 pm
    If it makes me pay more taxes, then it sure is bad! Tax = bad. Tax = they take money from us! Pay for the poor who doesn`t care to find a job and just being lazy feasting on OUR money!
    /quote
    Yeah I`m sure that what`s going on inside the head of many commentators here. Well I am not going to change any of that, frankly I can`t, but there is a secret I want to tell you, whether you believe it or not: you don`t even own yourself.


    ...Yea.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    March 7, 2011 at 7:37 pm
    Well does the whole world deserve the same rights mentioned also? It all sounds good, but it`s a cartoon reality. Realistically all resources are finite. Somewhere there will be those who get crapped on. We would devour the planet even faster than we are now. Communism died even by the republic of China no longer holds to Mao`s old thinking.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 7, 2011 at 7:45 pm
    5Cats: @xiquiripat "He was elected because he`s a race-huckster in a gerrymanded district."
    Bang on! Daddy BOUGHT him that seat, lolz! Remember Blagovich?

    Did you also know his dad black mailed, not a pun, Anheuser-Busch into giving his son a distributorship in Chicago or else he was going to accuse them of racism in a full page ad in the newspaper.
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    DesertWolf Male 30-39
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    March 7, 2011 at 8:29 pm
    @shappy
    Hey buddy, glad you are happy to pay for other people`s stuff. I could use an ipod (I`ve got a zune, but it`s not the same). Let me know when I can send you my address. Thanks, in advance!
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    plastinum Male 30-39
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    March 7, 2011 at 8:33 pm
    yeah sounds good, but who pays for all of this? Aren`t the middle class, blue collar taxpayers already burdened enough? We carry the burden of providing for those less fortunate and live in fear of becoming such and dream of being the unattainable upper class who we keep in power and allow to only get richer...
  51. Profile photo of DesertWolf
    DesertWolf Male 30-39
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    March 7, 2011 at 8:33 pm
    @shappy,
    Edit: just to clarify, paying taxes would not cover the things he is talking about. Unless you are under the impression that those that pay taxes should also then pay for their own "rights"... then maybe it would balance (on the books for the first year).
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 8:36 pm
    DERP!


    No thanks mister, social security is screwed up enough. Such a program is DEFINITELY not worth my tax dollars.
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    March 7, 2011 at 8:40 pm
    Why is he wasting his and everyone else`s time with this BS instead of actually working on pragmatic solutions to these problems?
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    crystalskyz Female 30-39
    359 posts
    March 7, 2011 at 8:54 pm
    Adam Corolla says, "CUM ON THE TIT`S"! Perhaps we could afford more if we weren`t having to pay for people that have 8 drating kids like the "golden voice" non-nice individual. Or just an non-nice individual up the street that has 2 he/she can`t afford. I vote for free birth control and in some cases that it be mandatory.
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    March 7, 2011 at 9:07 pm
    On a scale of 1 - 5, how far gone is Jessie Jackson Junior?
    1. Crazy
    2. Howling Mad
    3. Barking Mad
    4. Batsh*t Insane
    5. Charlie Sheen
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    itellifyou Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 9:09 pm
    Hey Illinois, Wisconsinite here, I hang my head in shame that my representatives fled to you with this caliber of politician, but the Bears and Cubs still suck. But to be diplomatic, I am cool with the Blackhawks. I mean come on, you gave us Lincoln, now we get Obama and this dip. Just write me in next election.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 9:27 pm
    "Who pays for all this"

    ... does the government buy your guns? No, you just have a constitutional right to own them.

    Yet this occurs. There`s no proof of causation, but the guy`s argument might not be entirely without merit despite what Cat (the one in the forum, not the one that murdered 10`000 people in India) might suggest.
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    fivezones Male 40-49
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    March 7, 2011 at 9:36 pm
    This country has jumped the shark. How did such an idiot get elected?
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 9:42 pm
    "Did you also know his dad black mailed, not a pun, Anheuser-Busch"

    Did you also know blackmail is a single word? You don`t need to segregate black despite any natural tendencies you might have to that effect.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 9:54 pm
    @Baalthazag

    I hope you`re not ensinuating that people are entitled to property. They aren`t, they have to earn it. It sounds like Jessie Jackson wants to do the same thing which would provide incentive for laziness. If they can`t earn it then they have to rely on charity.
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 10:02 pm
    Oh, you silly americans.... I live in denmark.. Here, we already have all those rights.. Free healthcare, free college education, the right to a home (if you can`t afford one, the government helps out).. And it ROCKS !.. I cannot fathom why these things seem like such horrible concepts to you people.. If you haven`t heard, Denmark has claimed 1st prize in several studies concerning the happiness of its citizens.. WHYYYY is it so terrible ???
  62. Profile photo of duffytoler
    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    March 7, 2011 at 10:24 pm
    >>I live in denmark.. Here, we already have all those rights

    Everybody gets an iPod? It says right in our constitution that everyone is suppose to get an iPod. I misspoke, what I meant is that it doesn`t say in our constitution that everyone is suppose to get an iPod.
  63. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 10:31 pm
    @Kain

    Yeah must be really great considering that the income tax in your country ranges between 43-62%.
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    RETARDEDBEAR Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 10:31 pm
    "does the government buy your guns? No, you just have a constitutional right to own them."

    Right. Everyone has the right to OWN a gun, but they do not have the right to have a gun BOUGHT for them. This man is saying that everyone has the right to have a home, healthcare, and education PAID for them, without them doing anything to earn it.
  65. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 10:34 pm
    I`m insinuating that phrased in the exact same way as the right to own firearms, there shouldn`t be a problem *at all* even for Conservatives.

    Look at the link I posted. The US has more guns than anyone by a long long long shot. I`m pretty sure that has a hell of a lot to do with the right to own one being so ingrained in the US mindset.

    You apply that same mindset to housing and education, and it would be beneficial, even without the government paying a single penny for it.
  66. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 10:48 pm
    even without the government paying a single penny for it

    ...and how does that work?
  67. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 10:48 pm
    Would anyone actually like to attack my claim that America is gun nutty because it`s in the constitution, despite no active involvement from the government?
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    Ajikan Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 10:58 pm
    Just bail out of the sinking ship and get the venus project rolling.
  69. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 11:00 pm
    @Baalthazaq

    We already have the right to own housing but we`re not entitled to it. Likewise we have the right to own guns but we`re not entitled to them.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    March 7, 2011 at 11:20 pm
    @Baal
    Nope we are gun nutty. Yes I like my Remington 12 gauge shotgun and my .338 Winchester Magnum rifle. I also enjoy my brand new 2010 Bowtech Admiral FLX that I took pig hunting up Mauna Kea and Loa. You want to start with spearguns also?
    No one and I mean no one will take these away from my living fingers. When they try they will have to kill my wife also. She`s a better marksman than myself.

    Here is a kicker for you to dwell on. Try regulating these in Hawaii. Half the local Polynesians alone carry hunting weapons in their homes. Consider that fact when Hawaii is considered one of the most left liberal minded states in the Union. Since we are on the front line in the Pacific it will never happen. They make you register and do background checks and have you go to classes for training. However they don`t ban such. The last politician who tried such lost his seat in the capital.
  71. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 11:20 pm
    It is legal in many countries.
    None of which have the right to own guns in the constitution.
    None of which have a rate of ownership double the nearest competitor.

    Gun ownership in the US is at 88% compared to Yemen`s 54%. They`re second. The world average (median) is 6.2%.

    I`m arguing that the inclusion in the constitution is part of the reason for the high levels of gun ownership (feel free to make alternative arguments).

    My argument further is that similar inclusion might be an easy way to promote interest in (mainly) education, but hopefully other things as well.
  72. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 11:24 pm
    Then perhaps handy, you shouldn`t be so insecure about it that as soon as I mention guns you don`t grab them and hide under your bed.

    The entire content of the last 5 posts from me have been "we should add more stuff to the constitution", not "we should take stuff away".

    Put the gun down, and tell the wife to step away from the window. You`re overreacting.
  73. Profile photo of handys003
    handys003 Male 50-59
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    March 7, 2011 at 11:30 pm
    @Baal then why are you obssesed with gun ownership in the USA?
  74. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 11:36 pm
    I`m with handys on this one Baal, what does this have to do with housing?
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 11:36 pm
    Incidentally:
    Communism has a meaning.
    Socialism has a meaning.

    By accusing every policy of being socialist or communist, you are making communism (which is bad), look good.

    By terming policies that work all around the world communist, especially when they are actually integral to some of the happiest nations on earth (Iceland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, etc), and even more specifically nations happier than you are, you`re making this communism look like some sort of Utopia.

    You need another argument beyond false labeling and guilt by association.
  76. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 11:41 pm
    I thought it was clear from my first post what the argument was.

    Gun ownership is in the constitution.
    It encourages higher gun ownership despite no government purchases of private weapons.

    Ergo, if education/home ownership/etc was put in the constitution >>in the same way<<, it may encourage similar booms in those areas.

    Ergo, good idea, even without government spending increases.
  77. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 11:46 pm
    Ergo, good idea, even without government spending increases.



    Interesting point actually (now that I get it), but trying to implement it now would actually be quite a farce.
  78. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 7, 2011 at 11:55 pm
    One of the reasons for the second amendment is, get this, to deter an undemocratic government. Just take a look at before the beginning of the United Government, it took an insurrection (which should have failed by many reasons) to drive out the British. Interestingly enough it was rather useful in this little conflict.
  79. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 8, 2011 at 12:37 am
    The point of the second amendment back then was to reassure people that their weapons weren`t going to be taken away.
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    Kaleotera Female 18-29
    472 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 1:18 am
    Here I was thinking JJ Jr. would be making a ridiculous statement on how to fix unemployment...but he actually made a really good point.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
    2402 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 1:34 am
    @Baal
    I`m not talking about your argument in your first post. I asked a simple question. Why are you obsessed over gun ownership in the USA?
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    catzypoo Female 18-29
    49 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 5:31 am
    the right?? No no no. In Ireland and Britian this mentality has people on social welfare and living in houses out of tax payers money. If you have a child the state will give you a house so teenage girls are getting pregnet all over the shop to get out of their homes. Education yes. In ireland we have a free college system (€2000 a year for a registaration fee but, it is afforable) and a free health care system. Health and Education improve society and I think they are important. I also belive they should be right as, for houses and material bullpoo take some responsiblity and get a job. I wish there was a cut off as I think most of the people in Ireland on it are either a)lazy b)drug addicts in a cycle.
    Good points bad points. And as a teacher, kids do not need laptops or ipods to learn.
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    DJDoubleb Male 30-39
    382 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 6:18 am
    Kaleotera, really?!?!? Government housing and giving kids free ipods and laptops are the answer?


    Please don`t vote!
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 6:51 am
    Baalthazaq: You are confusing the "right to bear arms". The operative word there is `Bear`, meaning to own, not to be bought for them.

    We have a right to `Pursue` happiness, not have it handed to us by the government. Also, What happens when one day your government can`t pay for those entitlements anymore ? You get the riots that are happening in Greece, The strikes happening in Spain, Massive protests in Italy and Ireland.

    A state sets itself up for failure when it enshrines `cradle to grave` entitlements in it`s constitution.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 7:35 am
    The operative word there is `Bear`


    Baal wasn`t advocating people be entitled to a house, rather a reminder in the constitution that says you have a right to own one (and no it doesn`t say you`re entitled to it). Though I suppose that in of itself would have problems.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 7:37 am
    Ya let just take away all motivation to work for things we should all live off handout it`s been working so well with the current welfare system. Oh they should put in the consitution something to get me a harem of sexy horny asian women I have a right to be happy.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 7:54 am
    Cajun: The constitution is not to be used in such a manner, It was written to protect our citizens from the government, not to say what the government must do for it`s citizens.

    There is nothing in our constitution or laws preventing citizens from owning property, In fact the 5th amendment already protects that right.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 7:59 am
    The constitution is not to be used in such a manner

    Which is why I said earlier that it would be such farce to even try implementing it.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36693 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 8:02 am
    Baal "Would anyone actually like to attack my claim that America is gun nutty because it`s in the constitution, despite no active involvement from the government?"

    We`re gun crazy because it`s in our culture. The Wild West... and rural towns where hunting is common. Dirty Harry and John Wayne alwyas had guns.

    The constitution just gives guarantees the right to own them. "Theoretically". There`s much debate about the actual meaning of the Second Ammendment as it may have been intended to allow for civilian malitia, not personal ownership.

    But the Supreme Court went back to a traditional stance in District of Colombia vs Heller in 2008 saying the 2nd Ammendment gives individuals the right own guns not related to militia.

    But personally, I think the only real guarantee against a tyranical goverment is a well armed popoulation.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
    1610 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 8:04 am
    "Would anyone actually like to attack my claim that America is gun nutty because it`s in the constitution, despite no active involvement from the government?"

    I do believe it`s being a part of the constitution has something to do with how much Americans love guns. However, I would argue that it has a hell of a lot more to do with our history and culture of hunting and warfare. Most initial colonists here in the new world did not know anything about agriculture or farming and had to rely on hunting, or the hospitality of the natives, in order to survive. The French who inhabited the Louisiana territory relied primarily on trading animal skins for survival. Those who came west to claim land had to rely on hunting to make ends meet and feed their families. For a solid 300 years guns were considered necessary for both sustenance and protection. The second amendment facilitated that culture, but it did not cause it.
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    DJDoubleb Male 30-39
    382 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 8:25 am
    Gerry1of1 with a gun... did the hair on the back of anyone else`s neck just stand up or just mine? :)

    Seriously though, Gerry nailed it. The 2nd amendment was put in place so that the government would fear the people. We are gun crazy because of our past. Not our constitution.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36693 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Why do I need a gun?

    HELLO! Have you seen my neighbors!


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    HumboldtPie Male 18-29
    311 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 11:22 am
    ...MONEY IS NO OBJECT, DECREASE THE BUDGET AND INCREASE SPENDING RAWRAWRAWR
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    Trypno Male 18-29
    474 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 1:24 pm
    Only problem is, if everybody is able to access schooling to become doctors or astronauts or politicians, you won`t have anybody to build the schools and do the most basic menial labor required to keep a country running
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 2:29 pm
    Canabalism will solve unemployment, lets face it, people quit because of their bosses, what you do is eat the boss and get their job! then you can hire someone to fill your position. SOLVED
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    machtig Male 30-39
    9 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 4:13 pm
    Wow. I`ll never feel dumb again. Really, if people want to live like that they can all move to Denmark.
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    hellrazor236 Male 18-29
    58 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 5:38 pm
    iPods and Macbooks for everyone!! Then we can really be bankrupt out of our asses!
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    Schr0dinger Male 50-59
    359 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 8:44 pm
    There is no way to cover all the flaws in what he said.

    Wow..just wow man. I didnt know anyone was that stupid in real life.
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    DFWBrysco Male 40-49
    307 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 8:46 pm
    It seems like every few years, the ideas originally proposed by FDR in his "Second Bill of Rights" speech is trotted out. As usual, the Republicans attack and foam at the mouth over them and yet...

    What is actually wrong with them? Where would America be if back in 1944, Congress embraced the Second Bill of Rights and passed them through. Where would we be today?
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    Schr0dinger Male 50-59
    359 posts
    March 8, 2011 at 8:46 pm
    DJDoubleb "Gerry1of1 with a gun... did the hair on the back of anyone else`s neck just stand up or just mine?"

    Um...I for one would rather have Gerry walking around with a gun than most cops I know.

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    8BitHero Male 18-29
    5414 posts
    March 9, 2011 at 12:54 pm
    iPod ewww
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    realguitar Male 40-49
    18 posts
    March 11, 2011 at 12:48 am
    Our B-1 cost about 1.1 billion we got about 20- not worthless but not very useful in the current theater, and yea for the cost of just that fleet- every child in the US could have 2 iPods
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 8, 2014 at 10:35 am
    Working Link! Live Leak the Rescue!

    100+ comments = Hooray!

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