Fetus To Testify For Anti-Abortion Bill

Submitted by: WalkinAftr12 6 years ago in
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/01/ohio-abortion-bill_n_829893.html

::Facepalm:: How does that work?
There are 92 comments:
Male 106
@furryblob
No, he`s actually right. It`s not like anyone thinks that Planned Parenthood is still a front for eugenics, but Margaret Sanger lived back when eugenics were the popular thing.
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Female 3,598
oh my god... this is where i live... please ohio, don`t be stupid and let religitards ruin many many lives...
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Male 946
@ admisaok
You`re too young to remember but they weren`t always called Pro Choice. They used to be called Pro Abortion. They changed it to choice to make it sound better. They started calling abortion clinics "Planned Parenthood" for the same reason.
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Male 946
Actually should have called them "Un-planned Parenthood".
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Male 946
@ svampevob
Both Adolph Hitler & Leonardo daVinci were almost aborted by their single mothers. How different would our world be without either of them. You have to take the good with the bad.
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Male 2,384
retarded just retarded
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Male 1,625
Dog and pony show by the republicans.
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Male 573
@CrakrJak Utter rubbish, a total lie.
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Male 598
DJDouble. We really should look at why we still need abortions as an option and i believe it is directly corelated to the abstenence-only political/religous movement across the world. No one wants to kill something or go thru the process of having a fetus taken from their who-ha, but America in particular has done a horrible thing, in that we have spent all of our time spreading the message of abstenance only and not put enough emphasis on contraceptives and PLANNING PARENTHOOD. Im speaking domestically and internationally.
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Male 382
@danky: No Kidding, Right? I mean, in today`s society, can you believe we still have people trying to use abortion as a contraception? Then think it is ok to pump killing chemicals and needles with vacuums to stop it from happening, because they are "not ready"? I can`t believe people still have to stand up and try to protect the child`s right to life. Seems like a bad sci-fi movie, huh?
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Male 946
@ svampevob
Both Adolph Hitler & Leonardo daVinci were almost aborted by their single mothers. How different would our world be without either of them. You have to take the good with the bad.
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Male 17,511
Trypno: Planned Parenthood`s main goal, when it was founded by Margaret Sanger, was a method by which to fulfill the goals of eugenics by not only aborting children but also sterilizing `imbeciles`. Imbeciles, by their definition meant blacks, the poor, and the retarded.
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Male 842
For once, I was hoping that this really was an Onion post. *facepalm*
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Male 3,076
unwanted children often become unstable so:
children growing up to be murders could have been prevented by abortion.
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Male 946
@ Trypno
It`s only about planning parenthood as an afterthought. They`ve always been abortion clinics first and foremost...and there are so many because it`s a booming business.
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Male 559
is this real life?
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Male 474
Planned Parenthood isn`t only about abortions people, it`s also about, among other things, PLANNING PARENTHOOD! wow what a concept
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Female 13
@ elkingo: Well said.
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Female 146
18 days it may have a heart beat, doesn`t have the cromosones to make it A HUMAN! Babies are often aborted NATURALLY by the second month because it wasn`t formed correctly, therefore it is incomplete. This is just semantics, the guy is still talking out his backside.
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Male 626
It`s not a human until it can think and live outside the womb. It`s as simple as that. They need yo just make a cut off date for abortions.
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Female 33
@i-am-ninja

would you crush/break/destroy and egg of any bird that has a chick growing inside it? probably not. this is the same thing

No it`s not. If im the one to voluntarily kill another thing I am murdering... if I were the bird in the case, wanting to kill my own eggs I would be making a sacrifice.
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Male 946
Actually should have called them "Un-planned Parenthood".
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Male 946
@ admisaok
You`re too young to remember but they weren`t always called Pro Choice. They used to be called Pro Abortion. They changed it to choice to make it sound better. They started calling abortion clinics "Planned Parenthood" for the same reason.
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Male 4,290
This isn`t even close to testimony. It`s just a bit of cheap courtroom theatre, one giant appeal to emotion logical fallacy.
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Male 10,338
@admisaok:

Exactly. Pro Choice does not mean pro baby killers.
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Male 516
How does somebody being pro choice define them as someone who would get an abortion? I personally wouldn`t choose that option if I had an unborn child, but that`s what it is: a choice. Just because I wouldn`t choose it doesn`t mean I have to force everyone else to as well.
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Male 39,913
BrimstoneOne - [quote]"When women lose their rights, everyone loses." [/quote]

Losing the right to kill her baby.

I`m willing to take that loss.
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Male 10,338
I am pro choice, but not in the case that it is for conception.

"I got pregnant and I want to get rid of it." Not good enough.
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Male 142
@ anyone who is pro choice

would you crush/break/destroy and egg of any bird that has a chick growing inside it? probably not. this is the same thing
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Male 10,338
"it`s her ankles, her belly, her uterus, her 9 months, her breast feeding, her emotions, her eggs"

...and without his sperm, that`s all it is.
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Male 10,338
"Its not a real creature yet. And isn`t human until born."

FAIL FAIL FAIL!

It`s a human at conception, just an underdeveloped one.
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Male 2,988
Its not a real creature yet. And isn`t human until born. Its a parasite living off a host body, incapable of sustaning its own life functions. Are we letting tape worms, or other non-human beings testify in court? I don`t think a heart beat in anyway says it "wants" to be born into this world. It has no mind of its own, simply a parasite. Stupid pro-life people need to take their religion of of the laws. I`m looking at you Janet (Folger) Porter, President of the group Faith2Action. Seperation of church and state please.
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Female 109
I have a sudden urge to read A Handmaid`s Tale again...
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Male 946
@ Negativitron
I know what adoption is and the hurdles that are in the way. What I`m saying is that with some moral guidance and some discipline, we would greatly reduce those numbers and the problems associated with it. Abortion wouldn`t even be an issue at all if it weren`t for "Roe v. Wade" making it the law of the land, and illegally at that I might add. I`m not saying these problems would be solved but they might not seem so powerless to stop. Doing the right thing isn`t always easy but it doesn`t mean we don`t try.
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Male 66
@ Gary

Adoption isn`t simply just a process of dropping a kid off at a police station and then the kid finding a loving home, because there are some pretty large hurdles in front of prospective foster parents, much less adoptees. there`s a lot of suffering that happens because that kid gets given up, and a lot of suffering that could happen if an unprepared mother without the means to support the child doesn`t give it up. Also, women who want an abortion in places where it`s illegal will get illegal and unsafe abortions. What`s worse, losing one prospective life because of circumstance, or losing two because of an illicit abortion? Assuming the value of both the mother`s life and the fetus` are the same.


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Male 946
@ SPARTKITTY
If you don`t want to take the time to care for it, then put it up for adoption. That`s what the adoption process is for. If you`re worried about your child being raised by strangers, then don`t have sex and get pregnant. Look, I`m not saying all abortion should be banned, but certainly most of them. The "right to choose" should be called The "right to get rid of my immoral mistake". I`m tired of people defending the right to basically not just screw up their lives, but their kids as well.
You know, Charles Barkley was dead wrong when he said he`s not anyones role model. EVERYONE is a role model to all kids. That`s how we advance as a society.
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Male 1,222
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Male 15,510
Jesus here we go again
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Male 2,229
Why are Americans so hung up on abortion, it`s legal, it not going away. And lately these American anti-abortion groups seem to targeting women`s rights (all of them) to get their anti-abortion position sold.

When women start losing their rights, where is it going to stop? Because it hasn`t with the poor, middle class or the unions. These anti-abortion groups are in cahoots with the tea party, the republicans, the corporations, and the uber rich.

When women lose their rights, everyone loses.
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Female 249
"It is his sperm after all. "

it`s her ankles, her belly, her uterus, her 9 months, her breast feeding, her emotions, her eggs
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Male 39,913
@Avalessa

[quote] You are a man so you can only sit there and say "Yeah whatever it`s bad." But being a girl, I can tell you now that it would screw up my life if I got pregnant at this age. [/quote]

You don`t have to be a chicken to know a bad egg.
I don`t have to be able to birth a child to know it`s wrong to kill a baby.

[quote] You seem to be under the impression that all rapists wear condoms and assume women are on the pill. [/quote]

You seem to make a lot of assumptions. I never mentioned rapists.
And I did STRESS in capital letters that it was both the man and the womans job to use contraception.

[quote]Go get a sex change and tell me what your opinions are afterwards. [/quote]
Fake uterus` don`t work so I still could not birth a baby.
What`s your point?

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Male 5,620
Like I pointed out in the last abortion posting also, I think the risk of mental disturbance should also be mentioned.
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Male 5,620
I like to consider myself very conservative, in most of my personal beliefs.

However, in case of abortion I believe that when rape, disease, mental dysfunction, or danger to the mother is present, that abortion should be allowed.

I do not think that abortion should be used as a birth control method. I think that is both immoral, and evil. I think after one "accident" and an abortion is needed, the woman should be sterilized as part of the procedure. Abortion is very serious, and it should have consequences - it should not be treated as if you are treating a common cold.

I also think that in cases that are not rape, that the father should have decision making rights as well. If he wants the child, he should have the custody and rights to it. It is his sperm after all.
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Male 39,913
@ Avalessa - Yes, though statistically low, it is possible for all forms of contraception to fail. But keep in mind the actual purpose of hetero-sex is to make a baby. You know that is the risk you take when you engage in an ADULT activity. As an ADULT you can`t just kill a baby because you had your fun but then don`t want the responsability.

Sucks being an adult, doesn`t it.

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Female 33
This stupid law is just going to end up killing more women. If they cant have an abortion, what makes society think they wont take action to create their own? Thus you now killed one thing, and another thats in developement. Im prochoice.
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Female 491
@Gerry1of1 Well, good sir, if you must know: all of that stuff can fail. My boyfriend was conceived when his mother was on the pill. I was an accident. Hell, I`m sure 99%, as you like to throw that number around, of IABers were accidents due to broken condoms and failed pills as well as well as an egg remaining in the tube after it was tied. Stuff happens and you can`t stop it.
Also, mind you, you don`t own a vagina. You are a man so you can only sit there and say "Yeah whatever it`s bad." But being a girl, I can tell you now that it would screw up my life if I got pregnant at this age.
You seem to be under the impression that all rapists wear condoms and assume women are on the pill. Go get a sex change and tell me what your opinions are afterwards.
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Female 374
This is stupid. Regardless of the reason, the law shouldn`t dictate what anyone does with their body.

Abortion shouldn`t be used as a form of birth control, and I think that someone should seriously consider all options before going through with one, but seriously, if a woman wants an abortion, no one, especially the government, should stop her.
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Male 17,511
Crucible: Why don`t you ask a woman that has been scarred by abortion how their "life (is) irreversibly changed on a huge scale" ?

There are over ten thousand women that have been left sterile from having an abortion. Ask them how they wish they had had that baby instead.
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Male 1,815
CrakrJak, you`re confusing "inconvenienced" with "life irreversibly changed on a huge scale"

I`m all for abortion. And icklevamp, people like you disgust me.
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Male 153
*about to comment*
*sees paragraphs ontop of paragraphs of arguing*
*moves on *
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Male 17,511
spartakitty: [quote]Besides, I don`t think women should be forced to have a child if she will have to take the time to care for it and put her life on hold in the process...[/quote]

God forbid a woman inconvenienced for the life of an embryo, right ? </sarc>

Do you realize how self-centered, immature and egotistical that attitude is ?
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Female 2,120
So bringing an unwanted child into an already overpopulated world and dooming it to an unloving mother or a life in the foster care system is A-OK as long as you don`t kill it?

Besides, I don`t think women should be forced to have a child if she will have to take the time to care for it and put her life on hold in the process, or live knowing her child is out being raised by someone else.
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Male 946
@ SPARTAKITTY
No, that`s not what I said. Let me clarify. If you`re already morally bereft, then sleeping with everyone is already no big deal and therefore, when you get pregnant by these actions you also have no problem aborting it.
However, if you`re in a relationship and end up pregnant, that was a risk you took and the decision to abort then does weigh heavilly on a woman with some moral fiber. That is the crux of the issue. All you women fighting for the "right to choose" wouldn`t fight for it at all if it wasn`t for the skanks doing it left and right and abusing the hell out of it. Abortion should be legal in certain cases only, rape being one of them. If more people taught their kids moral responsibility, this wouldn`t even be an issue.
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Female 375
"Ok. You want to know why abortion is wrong? Here it is in a nutshell. You`re not having a cyst removed. It`s a life for crying out loud. If your having an abortion just for the sake of convenience, then it`s wrong. Too lazy to use birth control? Then it`s wrong. I`m not against it for any bullsh*t religious reason. Everyone`s heard that before. It boils down to moral responsibility, which is what we should be teaching our kids anyway. Quit making excuses for wanting to f*ck everyone "because it feels good" without accepting the consequences. Do everyone a favor and take the next step and sterilize yourselves instead. You know, Maury Povich can`t have everyone on his show."

I love this. This reflects my view 100%.

"So if I`m raped and he isn`t courteous enough to use protection, I have to have my rapist`s child?"

It`s not the kids fault if it`s the product of rape. If you don`t want it then give it up, but don`t kill the kid caus
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Male 25,416
right e o
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Male 17,511
madest: Many of those people you are calling `kooks` are women that were victims of abortions that went wrong themselves.

Using abortion as a birth control method is like using a drill paint mixer to scramble your morning breakfast eggs.
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Female 2,120
@gary8162

So if I`m raped and he isn`t courteous enough to use protection, I have to have my rapist`s child?
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Male 768
Here we ago again.. *FACEPALM!!
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Male 946
Ok. You want to know why abortion is wrong? Here it is in a nutshell. You`re not having a cyst removed. It`s a life for crying out loud. If your having an abortion just for the sake of convenience, then it`s wrong. Too lazy to use birth control? Then it`s wrong. I`m not against it for any bullsh*t religious reason. Everyone`s heard that before. It boils down to moral responsibility, which is what we should be teaching our kids anyway. Quit making excuses for wanting to f*ck everyone "because it feels good" without accepting the consequences. Do everyone a favor and take the next step and sterilize yourselves instead. You know, Maury Povich can`t have everyone on his show.
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Male 490
Sounds good to me.
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Female 8,052
And what ifs make a difference. They do change things, life is not and never has been black and white.
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Male 10,440
[quote] Is it a good idea to kill a baby. [/quote]
But it`s not a baby. It`s a fetus or blastocyst or fertilized ovum or whatever stage it happens to be at.
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Male 7,378
Abortion is legal in America. Knock yourself out. Those kooks you see at the clinic don`t care about you or your baby. They`re just rabble rousers.
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Male 39,913

You can make all the excuses you want. You can cloud the issue up into a vast grey area, but the bottom line remains the same. Is it a good idea to kill a baby.

Throw some more "what if" scenario`s out there. It doesn`t change the question at the heart of the matter.
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Male 182
Is it just me or has America gone balls to the wall bat poo crazy the past few years.
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Female 8,052
Abortion is not a first line method of birth control- antis always make it sound as though every woman who has one is engaged in unprotected sex all day every day with the intention of getting an abortion if she falls pregnant. Abortions are needed if contraception fails ( which it can do) - I am 47, if I fell pregnant it would be terribly dangerous for both me and the child. To say nothing of the fact no 16 year old wants a mother in her 60s. Am I to forgo sex in case contraception fails?
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Female 80
Yea make abortion illegal. That way we have way more dumpster babies. Makes perfect sense to me.
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Male 10,440
[quote] Or, knowing abortion isn`t an option... [/quote]
Why is it not an option again?
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Male 10,440
[quote] Abortion is NOT a moral birth control meathod. [/quote] That is only your opinion gerry.
Saying something is moral or immoral doesn`t hold much weight in my books.

[quote] forbid abortions in any case in which the fetus had a detectable heartbeat[/quote]
If you want to compromise on this abortion issue then make the point of no return when the fetus first has mental activity, not a heartbeat. The heart is a replaceable organ, the brain isn`t.
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Female 8,052
Gerry- what about condom failure, no contraceptive is 100% safe. What about rape, or a child conceived while on the pill? I have misgivings about a termination at 20 weeks except in cases of non viability but up to 12 weeks would be reasonable.
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Male 405
@videogamer
WIN
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Female 3,001
so right now 20 weeks in pregnancy is when it goes from the mother`s right to have an abortion to the child`s right to live...

good to know
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Male 7,123
Gerry,

99%? Random number much?
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Male 39,913
lacishay - [quote] If a woman wants an abortion she`s either going to go to a clean, safe facility where she has a better chance of not getting an infection or something going wrong, or she`s going to go to a skeevy, dirty, dark place where it could kill her.[/quote]

Or, knowing abortion isn`t an option, she`s going to make damn sure that son-of-a-bitch uses a condom.
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Male 3,014

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Female 120
Why is it that the mother, her body, her life and her well being is always pushed aside in these cases? Why can`t anyone just let sleeping dogs lie and accept the fact that people are going to make their own choices regardless of the hazards. If a woman wants an abortion she`s either going to go to a clean, safe facility where she has a better chance of not getting an infection or something going wrong, or she`s going to go to a skeevy, dirty, dark place where it could kill her. Abortion should never be used as birth control, but it should be used as a last resort if necessary.
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Male 1,929
I can make a frog`s leg twitch. Can I abort that?
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Male 39,913
Avalessa - [quote] "Abortion isn`t wrong because it`s our only voluntary method of population control " [/quote]

"ONLY" ? Have you ever heard of contraceptives?
Rubbers? The Pill ? Contraceptive jelly?

Any of that ring a bell?

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Male 39,913
Rick S - [quote] "Who gets to say that the mother`s life isn`t as valuable as the fetus` life, and that the fetus` gets to live, and the mother has to die? " [/quote]

That is a rare occurance. 99% of abortions are for convenience because the woman AND man were too stupid to use contraceptives.

Abortion is NOT a moral birth control meathod.

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Male 605
Wait, this isn`t from the onion?
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Male 3,332
"But every baby`s situation is the same. If it`s aborted it dies."

Who gets to say that the mother`s life isn`t as valuable as the fetus` life, and that the fetus` gets to live, and the mother has to die? Of course, this is ONLY in the case of a mother`s life being at risk if she were to continue the pregnancy, but it`s a valid exception to this.
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Male 773
`Your honour, I`d like to bring my next witness to the stand, this nine week old fetus.`

`It`s dead..`

`I rest my case.`
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Male 2,850
@Gerry1of1

"But every baby`s situation is the same. If it`s aborted it dies."

Except for baby Chuck Norris.
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Female 491
Abortion isn`t wrong because it`s our only voluntary method of population control as opposed to HIV and cancer.
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Male 156
Here`s some video footage of the testimony. I`ve gotta admit, the fetus made a very compelling case.
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Male 39,913
"The politicians behind this bill refuse to acknowledge what Ohioans understand: Every woman`s situation is different"

But every baby`s situation is the same. If it`s aborted it dies.

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Female 1,435
no.
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Female 65
I myself can`t fathom ever electing to have an abortion, but I also can`t fathom denying others the right to make that choice on their own. Just because it isn`t right for me doesn`t mean it isn`t right for anyone else. I get that people wanting to ban abortion believe that life begins at conception, hey, I share that belief, but I don`t think it`s right to cram YOUR beliefs down other people`s throats. ~I`m just sayin~
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Female 803
I`m incredibly disappointed that this isn`t an Onion parody.
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Female 9,572
Ohio, really?
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Male 848
I think it amounts to "Look! We did an ultrasound and the fetus looks like a baby! Don`t abort because Awwwwww"
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Female 169
Link: Fetus To Testify For Anti-Abortion Bill [Rate Link] - ::Facepalm:: How does that work?
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