Drug Raids Go Hollywood, Obama Admin Break Promise

Submitted by: hookskat 5 years ago

As the Feds raid LA pot dispensaries yesterday, Obama breaks another promise. C"mon, Barry!
There are 85 comments:
Male 2,868
@nubblins- as head of the executive branch, he is responsible for the actions of the federal agents involved in the case. And if he DOESN`T support their actions, he has every right to condemn what they did, and ask Holder to drop the Federal charges.
0
Reply
Male 110
seriously? people are crying because they dont get their weed? im pretty sure there are more important things going on in the world...

yea like the government using the confiscated weed to sell back to the dispenserys to give them more power and to lie to us
0
Reply
Male 10,845
@comrade b

Oh I`m a very patient man...
0
Reply
Male 295
the armchair political pundits that we are, do you sincerely believe that pot is going to be legalized, like EVER? It`s not, so lets stop bitching, and carry on.
0
Reply
Male 218
pigs dont want to admit they lost, so they keep doing junk like this

0
Reply
Male 484
I`m not pro-pot. I don`t smoke it and never have. But I have been on percoset for 6 months after botched operation. It sucks. Yeah, it relieves the pain, but functioning on opiates is difficult.

If I ever end up with cancer (likely), or lose a limb, I would be very interested in trying out marijuana as a substitute, based on the testimonies I`ve read and heard from people who are in that position, and what I know about how debilitating the stuff I`ve been on before is.

I just don`t understand how we have drated up pot`s rep so bad that it can`t be considered as a legit painkiller. Between both the fears of the anti-pot people and the outright misrepresentation spread by the pro-pot people, we may never have an honest representation of the drug`s real uses and drawbacks.
0
Reply
Male 34
seriously? people are crying because they dont get their weed? im pretty sure there are more important things going on in the world...
0
Reply
Male 3,631
Interesting point Altaru - even if you`re totally wrong, we need more skepticism like that out there. Didn`t even occur to me because it`s so par for the course these days.
0
Reply
Male 37,897
Cajun247 - [quote]"Perhaps that`s because there is a changing opinion on the matter. They didn`t have Netflix or for that matter Blockbuster back in the 20s, " [/quote]
They also didn`t have any alcohol thanks to federal laws banning it.

To me, it doesn`t look like we learned very much since then.
0
Reply
Male 3,482
Look, I don`t like the man either, but have you ever stopped to consider that sometimes, just sometimes, human beings are to blame rather than the government?

The entire government system is f*cked up, yes, and broken promises from the assh*le-in-chief galore, but there is the rare occasion when they AREN`T the ones in the wrong.

And unless you have the facts, ALL OF THEM, you can`t make that judgement.
0
Reply
Male 3,482
[quote]Keep spinning tho, you`ll fall over soon enough.[/quote]
And how am I spinning anything?

If ANYONE is spinning here, it`s the person who made the video.

He presented no details of the case, he`s not able to see the warrants as they are under seal at this time...

But of course, because he wanted to outrage you easily swayed idiots, he presented the story as a Federal raid on a perfectly State-legal business.

He presents no proof to back it up, because he has none. I`d say that`s spin.

Just another piece of the puzzle in the decline of journalistic integrity that is running rampant.

Of course, you probably watch Fox "news," the only "news" station that`s gone to court for their right to lie to their viewers, so you`re so used to it you don`t even notice it anymore, huh?
0
Reply
Male 10,845
[quote]Every other video is on marijuana and ending the drug war[/quote]

Perhaps that`s because there is a changing opinion on the matter. They didn`t have Netflix or for that matter Blockbuster back in the 20s,
0
Reply
Male 3,482
[quote]Then why, @Altaru, did it require a FEDERAL warrent? Couldn`t local cops get a warrent for a crack den?[/quote]
Unless you can point out where you`ve read multiple other accounts of what transpired, including what the warrants were signed for, what charges are being presented against the arrested party, etc., my point is that you`re going on THIS VIDEO.

THIS VIDEO has the fact that federal raids were launched. That`s it. It doesn`t state why, it doesn`t state what the charges are, etc.

But, like a moron, you`re basing everything on THIS VIDEO.

You`re just another biased, judgmental dumbass. It`s people like you I wouldn`t want to see on a jury because you`re willing to base your opinions on minimal facts and personal bias.
0
Reply
Male 10,339
"Did you sleep through your American government classes in school?"

No,he`s more right than you are. Our government is in no way supposed to "rule" us.
0
Reply
Male 759
Love it when people jump into a conversation thats already going on like they know what it`s about. To whoever said there needs to be an open discussion: have you seen netflix`s documentary section?!? Every other video is on marijuana and ending the drug war. Furthermore that list of states is a list of states that approve marijuana for medical use, NOT outright legalization, but good misinformation tactic. Im not even putting forth my own opinion here, im pointing out that none of you have made a legitamate argument for it`s legalization. If you want to repeal a law thats older than your grandmothers (and survived the 60`s) youre going to need a better reason than "jus cuz!"
0
Reply
Male 10,845
I forgot to mention Nebraska
0
Reply
Male 10,845
[quote]All have failed[/quote]
Except for:
Alaska
California
Colorado
Maine
Massuchussets
Minnesota
Mississippi
North Carolina
New York
Ohio
Oregon
0
Reply
Male 10,845
[quote">so just because there may be a majority opposed, doesnt mean it isnt justified to legalize it[/quote">

Well it`s a good thing that this majority doesn`t exist anymore nationwide.

@5Cats

I know you`re Canadian, but will you join me in supporting Ron Paul for President?
0
Reply
Male 37
Awwwwww, are the potheads unset that their illegal crutch is being taken away? Somebody call the waaaahhhmblulance, these losers are showing major withdrawl symptoms.
0
Reply
Male 2,384
drat obama, there i said it hes just a weasel spineless coward bitch, i thought he was gunna change but he just caving in to bullpoo people with money,
0
Reply
Male 36,536
[quote]For all you know, it could have been a crack den[/quote]
Then why, @Altaru, did it require a FEDERAL warrent? Couldn`t local cops get a warrent for a crack den? Keep spinning tho, you`ll fall over soon enough.

Thanks @Gerry1of1 for pointing out the obvious to those dullards: There`s areas where the Feds are in charge, and other areas where the States are. One is not supposed to tred on the other`s terf, eh?

And they don`t NEED TO go after "all the dope sellers" that wouldn`t be cost-effective. They only need to pin the rap on a couple of them, and the rest will go back underground again.
Face the Facts: even if the people vote FOR pro-dope laws, the Feds won`t allow it.

It`s also known as "tyrrany". Obamaus Tyrranus!
0
Reply
Male 591
"The Feds were never meant to rule over us, like England."

Did you sleep through your American government classes in school?
0
Reply
Male 36,536
[quote] The same effect was seen with organized crime after the repeal of prohibition.[/quote]
@Volsunga, are you high? After prohibition was repealed, the mobsters were basically out of business. Oh sure they went back to their previous crimes, but the HUGE MONEY they made from booze evaporated within a year.
Ditto for `drug lords`. Once it`s legalized, tobacco companies will POUNCE on this vast revenue source. Legal pot will be just as cheap and easy to get as booze. Oh sure, lots of folks will just grow their own, what`s the harm in that?

@Zombunny: When the Democrat house failed to pass "cap and trade" (which would GUT the American economy, eh?) Obma tried to authorize the EPA to have those same powers. Happily the courts over ruled this.
However the White House is currently ignoring a court order to open up oil rig liscences - yet Obama crows about how he`s increased oil production. He`s been smoking pot I think...
0
Reply
Male 1,107
There`s a sh*tstorm in the courts a-comin`.
0
Reply
Male 3,745
"He`s the first black man I ever heard of that don`t like a little herb"

Gerry you disappoint me...you know that he did this so that he could have it for himself..."

"I know you were trying to be funny, Gerry1of1, but your comment comes across as being somewhat racist."

you must be new...
0
Reply
Male 1,451
Oh no!!! Now where will all the potheads get weed??
0
Reply
Male 37,897
[quote]"federal law takes precedent over state law" [/quote]

True. The question is does the Federal Gov`ment have the right to make such a law. States Rights and all that.

States are supposed to rule themselves. The Feds were never meant to rule over us, like England.
0
Reply
Male 25,416
meh
0
Reply
Male 559
Obama looked a little dopey
0
Reply
Male 598
Number43, just because marijuana hasnt followed the same path as alcohol, doesnt mean it doesnt warrant legalization. Politicians are just now slowly able to have a discussion on the drug because for so long it has been politically such a risky thing to stand up for.
There has not been a open dialogue that helps educate the public to make truly informed decisions or opinions on the matter. The arguement against its legalization is full of misperceptions and very weak when compared with alcohol for example or tobacco even. so just because there may be a majority opposed, doesnt mean it isnt justified to legalize it. we need to decriminalize it for innumerable reasons.
0
Reply
Male 2,422
Did it here in Montana too.
0
Reply
Male 469
The horror...the horror.
0
Reply
Male 1,008
bail outs? all right it was stupid but all right, govt run health care? seems like a bad idea to me but ok ok. sneaking in the socialist agenda? i hate it but as long as you dont try to take away personal property i will live. TAKE AWAY THE WEED? THATS IT I HATE THIS GUY!!!...... JK BARRY IS A PIMP (he`s no Clinton but he`s still a pimp)........ seriously tho leave the weed alone
0
Reply
Female 33
"Obama disregards the constitution, rule of law, judges orders, why should mere `state laws` apply to HIM?"

5Cats, federal law takes precedent over state law. And the rest of your comment is just absurd.
0
Reply
Male 759
@zombunny,
Again...
FACT: Prohibition in the United States lasted 14 years before being overturned
FACT: Marijuana has been illegal in all U.S. States since 1927 (just shy of 90 years, 7x longer than prohibition).
FACT: Literally hundreds of attempts to decriminalize marijuana and outright legalize marijuana have been made, most notably the recent California Prop 19. All have failed.
LOGICAL CONCLUSION: The American people and government view marijuana as a more serious threat to public safety than alcohol.
STATEMENT OF OPINION: The prohibition of alcohol in America is not similar, nor has it followed the same path as the criminalization of marijuana possession/production.
FURTHERMORE: If your argument lies on the fact the the MINORITY of people want marijuana legalized, then by the same logic you should support lowering the age of consent for statutory rape, or legalizing DUI.
0
Reply
Female 33
I know you were trying to be funny, Gerry1of1, but your comment comes across as being somewhat racist.
0
Reply
Male 749
@fiizok: "A few days ago conservatives were terribly upset with the Obama administration for not upholding the law. Today they`re upset with the Obama administration for upholding the law."

I don`t think it`s conservatives that are upset that the raid happened. But more to the point, why does everyone insist on having every event directly tied to the "evil motives of those other guys" regardless of which side you`re on? Seems to me that in this case, law enforcement did their jobs, now the courts will do theirs, and hopefully the outcome will be fair and within the law. After all, aren`t all Americans in favor of The Rule of Law??
0
Reply
Male 591
A few days ago conservatives were terribly upset with the Obama administration for not upholding the law. Today they`re upset with the Obama administration for upholding the law.

Conservatives don`t actually care what`s happening as long as it gives them an excuse to throw a hissy fit.
0
Reply
Male 37,897

He`s the first black man I ever heard of that don`t like a little herb
0
Reply
Female 2,525
@number43,
Back your argument up with facts and then maybe I`ll give a crap.
0
Reply
Male 3,482
[quote]Now to listen to the leftiests SPIN SPIN SPIN for Obama`s goons![/quote]
Now watch the conservatives all go off half-cocked without any background or facts.

You know, like they always do.

For all you know, it could have been a crack den in a bad neighborhood, using the "medical marijuana" as a cover-up. I mean, it`s not like this video actually "reported" anything, it just threw out bias and half-truths meant to sway people.

But, of course, the devil is in the details you never like to check, huh?
0
Reply
Male 759
@zombunny,
Restating the initial (and still invalid) argument, does not suddenly make it right.
0
Reply
Male 684
maybe they were selling to people without prescriptions...that is still illegal. This article lacked any good information other than pointing out that the government didn`t keep its promise, however if they were selling to people without prescriptions, the government is still keeping its promise. I hate the modern age of sensationalist misleading journalism... shame on you
0
Reply
Male 60
they do this poo weekly idk why they`re making a big deal out of this one.

TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT `12
0
Reply
Male 552
Willing to bet this is a one time deal, tho. ONE person arrested? Smart money says he was doing something terribly illegal. Maybe he was tied to drug cartels and was doing more than selling hippies and cancer patients good herbs.
0
Reply
Male 88
What a complete and utter pity. Lying is essentially illegal, but it`s politician`s bread and effing butter.
0
Reply
Male 181
That last part succinctly summarizes the relationship between the People of the United States and our government: "Can we talk to somebody?" "NO."
0
Reply
Male 7,353
sbeelz-"if he DOESN`T support their actions, he has every right to condemn what they did, and ask Holder to drop the Federal charges."

Obama can`t make a decision on that (or anything else) that until he determines the race of those being charge. If they are white, the charges will stand. If they are black, the police acted stupidly.
0
Reply
Male 694
Boo flippin` hoo. Federal law > State law. If you care so much, start a civil war.
0
Reply
Female 1,894
wtf though?!?
0
Reply
Male 22
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
0
Reply
Male 1,548
Since they didn`t go after every medical marijuana dispensary, I`ll assume that they were dealing more than marijuana or dealing without prescriptions. Due to federal involvement, it is probably the former. If that is the case, then it is evidence that marijuana legalization would not lead to less crime and less dealing in more harmful drugs, it would just give those who do deal in those areas a good cover operation. The same effect was seen with organized crime after the repeal of prohibition.
0
Reply
Male 734
Obama broke a promise? WOW...big shocker there. Just chalk it up on the list with all his other BS.
0
Reply
Male 17,512
How do you guys like Barry now ?
0
Reply
Male 6,694
Obama was prolly just playing golf or something else that has nothing to do with anything.
0
Reply
Male 1,931
@megavidiot Let`s say that `clinic` was doing other illegal activity such as cocaine, meth, etc. It still shouldn`t be the federal governments place to impose that justice. It should be state.
0
Reply
Male 228
What? People are actually shocked that a politician did not keep a promise?
0
Reply
Male 901
Biased video, leaving too much open. I`m betting they were doing something beyond basic medical marijauna.
0
Reply
Male 14,330

0
Reply
Male 3,745
wtb more information so that i can judge the situation properly...ill also take some of that "Kings Kush" please. That is all.
0
Reply
Male 1,122
meh
0
Reply
Female 1,743
@cobrakiller

This video doesn`t prove or disprove that theory.
0
Reply
Male 645
yep, winning that drug war.
0
Reply
Male 7,585
they probably werent following all the correct legal channels. not getting the weed legally, selling to non card-holders, etc.
0
Reply
Female 2,525
@5Cats,
Apparently you`re an expert on what happened. How about filling the rest of us in?
0
Reply
Male 7,378
No this is a direct contradiction to his policy. They`re doing the same thing in Montana. Obama seems to be doing everything in his power to lose the his last bit of support. This action is shameful.
0
Reply
Male 36,536
No surprise here. Obama disregards the constitution, rule of law, judges orders, why should mere `state laws` apply to HIM?

Now to listen to the leftiests SPIN SPIN SPIN for Obama`s goons!

vv good call @sbeelz! A cat would make a fine president! >^..^<
0
Reply
Female 1,743
sbeelz

And when we find out why they singled out these guys, you`ll know why he didn`t condemn them. As others already pointed out, seeing as the vid doesn`t explain why they were in trouble, we can`t draw conclusions that no federal laws were broken.
0
Reply
Male 230
This video is incredibly stupid drawing absolutely no conclusion. I think I`ll reserve judgement pending valid information. That is all.
0
Reply
Male 1,011
lol @ at the fact people think obama isn`t just another scummy politician
0
Reply
Female 2,525
@sbeelz, depending on exactly what happened, there could be plenty of reason for the feds to get involved.
0
Reply
Male 27
Lets not get our panties in a bunch until we find out why this dispensary was singled out.
0
Reply
Male 2,868
@nubblins- as head of the executive branch, he is responsible for the actions of the federal agents involved in the case. And if he DOESN`T support their actions, he has every right to condemn what they did, and ask Holder to drop the Federal charges.
0
Reply
Male 2,868
@Rick_S- then the state and local police alone could have handled it. There was NO reason for the Feds to get involved.

It`s looking less and less likely that I`ll be voting for Obama in 2012. If there isn`t a halfway decent third party candidate, I`ll be writing in my cat.
0
Reply
Female 2,525
@number43, actually that is a completely valid argument. Anyone with a brain can see that marijuana prohibition is not only ineffective, but it`s a waste of time, money and resources, and it breeds crime.
0
Reply
Male 759
incubus inc,
Prohibition lasted 14 years. Marijuana has been illegal since 1927. Your argument is invalid.

Wonder what these guys did to get raided. As Aadya said, it seems unlikely that they would raid just two of the places in all of cali.
0
Reply
Male 3,314
So, just because you don`t know why they are being raided, you assume that Obama lied, and is directly behind this? Is it possible that these two places were dealing more than medical, and that`s why they were targeted? i think it is.
0
Reply
Female 2,525
Like others said, I doubt this was about the fact that they were selling marijuana. The news source seems pretty biased.
0
Reply
Male 3,894
Look. The video didn`t touch on WHY the place was raided. Maybe they were selling to people without a license. Maybe they weren`t paying taxes.

They could very well have broken local laws, and the DEA was brought in to help enforce those laws. We don`t know that the feds were "circumventing local laws."

So, please. Think and question before you get angry.
0
Reply
Male 977
Hey government... do you remember when you tried to prohibit alcohol, and the people wouldn`t have it?

Yeah... don`t we think it`s about time to stop playing these little tedious games...?
0
Reply
Male 324
Hmmm... So the promise was not to use federal resources to CIRCUMVENT STATE LAW. There were sheriff`s department officials there as well. It is unknown why they were raided.
Hypothesis: These places were breaking state law and the locals worked with the feds to shut them down. Just because medical marijuana is legal and can be taxed doesn`t mean that these places were operating in a legal manner.
There is so little detail given here. Nothing at all is clear - least of all that the Obama administration broke this particular promise. Plenty of others, but the jury is still out here.
0
Reply
Female 55
I think something else was going on there. I mean they only targeted TWO places. Out of how many??? I doubt it was for the Medical Pot they were dealing with. Cause if that was the case - they would have had quite a few more raids just to avoid people closing up shop and running.
0
Reply
Male 37,897

Had to happen sometime. I`m looking forward to seeing this go to the Supreme Court.
0
Reply
Female 1,743
Yes, I`m sure Obama personally sent those agents. Because he has nothing better to do.
0
Reply
Female 7
Link: Drug Raids Go Hollywood, Obama Admin Break Promise [Rate Link] - As the Feds raid LA pot dispensaries yesterday, Obama breaks another promise. C`mon, Barry!
0
Reply