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207 Responses to Busted: Fox News And Ron Paul`s Video Deception

  1. Profile photo of PierreJeanFR
    PierreJeanFR Male 40-49
    1360 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 10:15 am
    Link: Busted: Fox News And Ron Paul`s Video Deception - Nice try, Fox News. Did you really think you could away with it?
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    VDragonV Male 13-17
    103 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 11:09 am
    Expected from our good friends at fox.
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    nubblins Female 18-29
    1743 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 11:16 am
    Yer doing "fair and balanced" wrong, Fox News.
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    basherrr Male 18-29
    242 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 11:16 am
    I like the part where the video goes on and on without any reason to.
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    AcidJazz90 Male 18-29
    20 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 11:19 am
    Now I`m not one to back up any bullpoo media source, but it could have just been an accident and played the wrong clip? :P

    Good stuff tho that Ron Paul is getting some serious luv
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    Wundt Male 40-49
    410 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 11:27 am
    Badly made video, it could have made it point in half the time.

    And the sad truth is, they do this to democrats all the time. Out right LIE for political gain. Whether you agree with their politics or not, no one should ever believe what they hear on Fox.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 11:28 am
    Meh.
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    NottaSpy Male 40-49
    881 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 11:29 am
    That is why the people who watch Fox News are the most uninformed.
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    NottaSpy Male 40-49
    881 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 11:32 am
    @AcidJazz90, accidentally ran the wrong clip? Really? You think they accidentally ran archived footage rather than video that just came in? You think they also accidentally planned to get Ron Paul`s reaction to booing that happened the previous year? Are you really that dense?
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    Volsunga Male 18-29
    1548 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 11:37 am
    Why is Ron Paul so popular? He is the only Libertarian that doesn`t understand economics. He is also a reactionary isolationist, which while that may appeal to the far right crazies, it certainly doesn`t bode well for any capitalist business model that depends on international cooperation.
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    greenbasterd Male 18-29
    2377 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 11:41 am
    isn`t there a law against something like that? fcc code of conduct or somehting along those lines?
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25406 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 11:50 am
    things happen
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10443 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 11:55 am
    Who. F*cking. Cares.

    No one.
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    Lukgeezy Male 18-29
    606 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    so?
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 12:11 pm
    I care. How dare they denigrate Ron Pauls reception in an effort to prop up their preferred candidates? However the fact that they can be exposed as frauds and liars and remain legitimate to their viewers says more about their viewers than it does about FoxNews.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
    2842 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 12:12 pm
    My attention span is much too short to give a poo.
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
    2067 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 12:22 pm
    What happened to the days when the news was just reported? That is why I do not watch any national news program because there is BS on both sides of the spectrum.
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    EdiMesic Male 18-29
    594 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 12:27 pm
    Surely there must be some kind of law, against this? If I was that Ron Paul guy, I`d make
    quick work of this.

    They`re obviously trying to poo on his rep, or
    something.

    Then again, I don`t know squat about American
    politics. This just seems like a crime.
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    SvampeBob Male 18-29
    3076 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 12:29 pm
    WTF isn`t that illegal?
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
    5196 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 12:43 pm
    There`s a reason people call it "Faux News" - it`s fake. They just lie and make stuff up.
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    megavidiot Male 30-39
    901 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 12:45 pm
    News has always been like this, not just Fox (they suck, but IAB seems to pick on them specifically). The only difference now is the publics availablilty for info (aka: internet).
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    redser99 Male 30-39
    114 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    Nothing done in the video is illegal though. FOX has changed its stance to become a tabloid and is now 8 of top 10 news sources as a result. It works for them in our capitalistic society so that`s what counts and what news will look like in the near future because all other news broadcasters will have to follow to also succeed.

    Wouldn`t you equate this with Borders bankruptcy because they fell behind with the evolving world of ereaders?
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    fiizok Male 40-49
    591 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    Fox is the only "news" organization to have gone to court claiming they have the legal right to lie.

    Unfortunately they won.
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    ohplease Male 50-59
    567 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 1:08 pm
    It`s fox "news" what did anyone expect?
    @flizok your link left me speechless,


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    fuzzgrimly Male 13-17
    30 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 1:12 pm
    Everyone who is saying `Isn`t that illegal` has already surrendered their rights to question their government.
    Good job, guys. Play right into their hands.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 1:31 pm
    I found it so hilarious but then I realized this is not Onion news :-O
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    urbanlegend Male 18-29
    741 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 1:48 pm
    I want to punch that stupid look off that anchor`s face.
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
    3894 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 1:48 pm
    drat you Fox.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 2:07 pm
    Guys, you know I`m a lib when it comes to most politics these days, but I gotta hand it to Ron Paul.

    Ideologically, he`s not exactly on line with me, which is fine, but he`s one thing his comrades aren`t. Honest.

    No wonder Fox hates him.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36184 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 2:17 pm
    So what`s the problem?

    Ron Paul won the CPAC and they reported that he did.

    It`s just jazzed up a bit.... THAT`S SHOWBIZ!

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    EvilBigHead Male 30-39
    83 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 2:35 pm
    So this video took 6:36 to say: "Fox News used 2010 footage in 2011."

    Look, I just did it in 7 words.
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    LuckyDave Male 18-29
    675 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 2:50 pm
    HLN, Fox News, Here`s a good idea, find the most bland, boring news channel you can find, and watch them, no hype, no fuss, just boring news. At least you have a better chance of getting the truth.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
    2402 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 3:20 pm
    Freak all these US news cable stations. I watch BBC America. More in depth and informative. A little bias in some areas toward globalist attitude, but not on the par of the left and right networks here.
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    mervviscious Male 40-49
    1794 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 3:24 pm
    Fox news should be outlawed, and hunted down....
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
    2385 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    srrsly does fox news have subliminal brain washing in their programming because i just dont see how people can see past the bullpoo
  36. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 3:54 pm
    Ron Paul is a RINO, Republican in name only. He`s against Israel anad has said some rather anti-semitic remarks over the years. I for one would not want to see him run for president, He would be a disaster.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 3:58 pm
    Btw, How come no one is talking about how CBS tried to cover up the raping of one of their female reporters while she was in Egypt ? I mean they raped her in broad daylight yelling "Jew Jew Jew!" and barely any news program except Fox covered the story.
  38. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 4:01 pm
    He`s against Israel anad has said some rather anti-semitic remarks over the years.

    Apparently you`ve been listening to Ben Stein too much.

    He would be a disaster.

    Sarah Palin would be a disaster, not Ron Paul.
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    urbanlegend Male 18-29
    741 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 4:06 pm
    " I mean they raped her in broad daylight yelling "Jew Jew Jew!" and barely any news program except Fox covered the story."

    Actually I saw a big piece on this on Anderson Cooper last night...
  40. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 4:09 pm
    Ron Paul is a RINO, Republican in name only.

    Ron Paul is actually libertarian, he was even in THAT party before he became a Republican.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    February 18, 2011 at 4:27 pm
    He`s against Israel anad has said some rather anti-semitic remarks over the years. I for one would not want to see him run for president, He would be a disaster.
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    Ron Paul is not anti-Semitic nor is he "against Israel". He believes our tax dollars shouldn`t be used to prop up governments. Israel should be allowed to do what Israel wants to do without our interference. We already got a black eye from "Made in the USA" tear gas canisters. Our influence in favor of one group of people over another is not American. We must rethink our foreign policy, we`re broke and it screws up everything.
    And Ron Paul has run for president. If he runs again he`ll do better than last time but this time I won`t send him money.
  42. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    Ron Paul, "..by far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government." He has just introduced an amendment to end all U.S. aid to Israel. He`s also getting large political donations from known neo-nazi groups.

    None of that is welcome in the Republican party that i know.
  43. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    He has just introduced an amendment to end all U.S. aid to Israel. He`s also getting large political donations from known neo-nazi groups.

    Anti-Israel != anti-semetic. Now granted I don`t entirely agree with him such as wanting to repeal the 14th amendment. The question I`ll ask: how serious is he? I support him because he opposed the Iraq War and the War on drugs.
    As far as the $500 donation from Stormfront the leader of that movement had something to say:
    "We know that he`s not a white nationalist. He says he isn`t and we believe him, but on the issues, there`s only one choice,"-Don Black

  44. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 4:59 pm
    Saying he`s an anti-semite because of his stance with Israel and support from White Nationalist groups is nonetheless a hasty generalization.
  45. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 5:01 pm
    It`s also a question to me why Stormfront (and others alike) would fund him even though he publicly supports the Park51 project.
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    TheDisavowed Male 30-39
    24 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 5:19 pm
    Didn`t realize liberal retardation was so rampant at I-A-B.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 6:04 pm
    Right on, guys - this was just forwarded to me last night. Not only that, but their OWN tournament poll - last I heard - which showed signs of leaving only Ron Paul and one other contender as the resultants - was PULLED before the results could be presented.

    That`s right - they pulled their OWN poll (ostensibly because Ron Paul, not Sarah Palin, was winning) and refuse to display the results of the final vote. To validate the convictions of their constituents. Wonder what happened.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 6:05 pm
    Madest - that`s the only rational thing I`ve ever seen you say. Kudos.
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 6:46 pm
    "He`s also getting large political donations from known neo-nazi groups."
    Source?
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    iabrbvvbns Male 50-59
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    February 18, 2011 at 6:57 pm
    Simply Amazing. Randolph Hurst would have been proud.
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 8:22 pm
    "Everyone who is saying `Isn`t that illegal` has already surrendered their rights to question their government."
    To question their government? It`s FOX news...
  52. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 8:58 pm
    sbeelz: I`ll do one better Paul took a picture with Don Black and his son. Cajun confirmed the donation.
  53. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 9:20 pm
    @Crakr

    Your picture doesn`t prove:
    1)He`s an antisemite.
    2)He`s gets large donations from far-right groups. $500 is pocket change compared to other amounts.
  54. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:04 pm
    Ooooh, ooo, cool, we`re playing Post the Photo! I love that game. Can I play too? Pretty please?



    Now, would I claim that that photo means anything? Of course not, it was just a photo-op at that time in geopolitical history, and on top of that I`m a rational individual that lives in the real world.
  55. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12151 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 10:05 pm
    Crakr, you never cease to amaze me. You`re calling Ron Paul an anti-semite funded by neo-Nazis. In the next breath, you`re a staunch far right-wing homophobic, islamophobic, right-wing Christian Conservative. I though Ron Paul would be right up your street. Heck, you`ve preached to me in the past in how smaller government was the way to go, Socialism is tantamount to Communism, (despite socialism working quite well in Europe, thankyouverymuch), and various other weirdness.
  56. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12151 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 10:05 pm
    Crakrjak, it strikes me (and I may have gotten this wrong), that you apparently despise homosexuals, muslims, scientists, atheists, and now, apparently, libertarians. Surely these guys are as close to the Tea Party as you can get without actually using the words "Tea-Party". Heck, Libertarians were using the Tea Party manifesto long before any far-right Conservatives ever slapped a name on it and hijacked it.

    Crakrjak, let me ask you, sincerely. Is there anyone you DON`T hate? Man, as I`ve said before dude, I`m glad I`m me and not you. Must be tough.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:13 pm
    p.s. I notice also that you haven`t commented yet on the Gay Marriage equating to Sharia Law link. A bit too close to the knuckle? I took you for someone prepared to stand up for your convictions, as you`ve very publicly opined and railed against the evils of both in these very forums.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:44 pm
    (p.p.s, fellow I-A-Bers and lurkers, sorry for the wall of spam)
  59. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 10:47 pm
    @davymid

    Your first comment made me laugh.
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    bumbleBB Female 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:51 pm
    Aww Davy. I love you. It warms my heart to know you`re still going toe to toe with crakrjak.
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    gatorade777 Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 11:16 pm
    I have political arguments over the internet. Agree with what I have to say.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2011 at 12:01 am
    @Davymid: C`mon now. Let`s try to be nice to Crakr. Remember, they can`t help it. They`re born that way.
    CrakrJak said: "Btw, How come no one is talking about how CBS tried to cover up the raping of one of their female reporters while she was in Egypt ? I mean they raped her in broad daylight yelling "Jew Jew Jew!" and barely any news program except Fox covered the story."

    Everyone covered the story. The only reason you think otherwise is because you don`t watch anything but Fox. BTW....who do you think was responsible for the attack?
  63. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3348 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 12:04 am
    @BumbleBB: Laughing at the retarded is cruel.
  64. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 12:17 am
    Davy: Interesting how you keep piling on your own misconceptions of me over and over and over. Even After I`ve clarified my positions, You keep going back to same old accusations and pile on even more.

    Homo-averse != Homophobic, that a misnomer used by the left to make conservative seem crazy. Since you seem to like homosexuals should I start calling you a homophile ? or since you seem to like muslims should I start calling you an islamophile ? Or since you seem to hate conservatives should I call you a conservaphobic ?

    Jesus Christ tells me to love all mankind, that doesn`t mean I have to love or tolerate their behavior, but I`m not their judge either.

    If I choose to support the American way of life as it is, Without all the so called `progressive` changes that others want, that is my right.

    Quit attempting to demonize me just because you`ve assumed a bunch of crap about me.
  65. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 12:20 am
    jtrebowski: CBS tried to hide the story, It only broke after Drudge and Fox covered it. The others became also-rands days later.
  66. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 12:24 am
    homophile..., islamophile

    Hehe, you might as well, because I got nothin against them. As for conservaphobia you might as well not use the term because Americans don`t what they`re talking about when they say liberal/conservative. But if I had to go by your standards then I`d say they`re pretty smart and well intentioned, just horribly misguided. I won`t hate them for that. ;-)
  67. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 12:27 am
    davymid: Back to the discussion of Ron Paul.

    What happen Davy ? Did you have a neo-nazi accusation all ready for me had I been a Ron Paul supporter ? Did I spoil it for you ?

    I mean you accuse me of everything else, why not pile that on too, right ?

    Ron Paul is not right for America, just as David Duke wasn`t. I`d have thought you would be agreeing with me on this, Instead you decided to take more potshots at my expense.
  68. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 12:31 am
    Love thy neighbor you say?


    Oh yeah!
  69. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2011 at 12:32 am
    Did you have a neo-nazi accusation all ready for me had I been a Ron Paul supporters

    Hasty generalizations much?
  70. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 12:33 am
    Ron Paul is not right for America, just as David Duke wasn`t. I`d have thought you would be agreeing with me on this

    I would if you weren`t making strawman arguments compounded with hasty generalizations.
  71. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2011 at 12:36 am
    Cajun: Hasty generalizations much?

    What`s good for the goose.....
  72. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2011 at 12:41 am
    What`s good for the goose.....

    Fair enough
  73. Profile photo of PierreJeanFR
    PierreJeanFR Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2011 at 3:37 am
    lamestream media is cheating
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    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
    3001 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 5:28 am
    fox news not trustworthy? i am appalled and shocked.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2011 at 7:08 am
    @CJ, First of all, Ron Paul was the only candidate not funded by groups. Regular everyday Americans who were anti-war and anti-spending were his base last time around. He was the only candidate that democrats, republicans and libertarians could get behind as one. He was the only candidate in either party willing to end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    For a guy who hates having the `racist` label thrown at him you sure go out of your way to label other people. Ron Paul is no more a Nazi than you are a Jew.
    I will say this, Rand Paul is no Ron Paul, anyone who thinks otherwise should have their head checked. He`s a shady character and the citizens Kentucky will some day regret their vote.
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
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    February 19, 2011 at 7:57 am
    I think Ron is a decent man...His beliefs and values are no where near mine, however, he has the ability to distinguish what he believes and what makes laws fair. I do not agree with many of his policies, because for Ron`s form of government to work people have to give a crap about each other, be compassionate, understanding and have the best interest of their fellow man at heart. If we ever come to that point, the form of government we have will be of no concern. That being said, his approach of honesty and restraint of personal beliefs makes me believe he would make a great leader somewhere at some time, maybe not here, maybe not now.
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    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2011 at 9:12 am
    crakrjak slandered a gay veteran (he accused him of being promiscuous) mostly because the veteran was gay and had an STD (note: it only takes one parter to give you an std). See crakrjak, your trademark character assassination can also be used against you. Except I have proof to back my crap up, and don`t try to delete those comments, I screenied them.
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    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2011 at 9:42 am

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    furryblob Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2011 at 10:03 am
    Ron Paul is the only conservative I can respect, the rest of them are just foxnews rightwingers.
  80. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 11:14 am
    vorpalsword: I suggest you delete that slander immediately or I will ask for the ban hammer on you.

    I am straight, Calling me a closeted gay is both extremely offensive and slanderous.
  81. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    @CrakrJak: I don`t believe you. I also take a dim view on your lack of respect for freedom of speech. Are the people who call Obama a Muslim "slanderous"?
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    whosliam Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    ron paul makes more sense than most of those dumbasses
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    BackAssward Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2011 at 1:49 pm
    "the act of making untrue statements about another which damages his/her reputation. If the defamatory statement is printed or broadcast over the media it is libel and, if only oral, it is slander."

    Take your pick.
  84. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2011 at 1:53 pm
    jtrebowski: Obama was born to a muslim father and his muslim step-father enrolled him as a muslim in school, His family in Kenya still believes that he is muslim.

    He says he`s Christian now, but has since called other muslims `brothers` and bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia upon meeting him.

    Also, He is a political figure and all politicians get slandered, unfortunately that`s how the game is played nowadays. It`s no different than the people that were calling GW Bush a Nazi, It`s likely untrue but the case of Flynt vs Falwell opened up that can of worms for all famous people.

    Vorpal`s slander is not in the same category and it`s done with malice and intent to injure.
  85. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2011 at 1:57 pm
    BackAssward: Since IAB is not the news media, I chose to use the word slander. It`s a fine line, but both words mean virtually the same thing `a defamatory statement which damages his/her reputation`.
  86. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2011 at 2:31 pm
    @CrakrJak: It would seem that his bowing to the King proves that he`s not a Muslim, since Muslims only bow to God, and the slander against Obama was also done with malice and intent to injure. Vorpals statement was not, because if you are gay, no one gives a crap.
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    SmilinSam Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    I`m really not surprised. i don`t really trust any news media, any of them not fox, not cbs, not msnbc. they are all run by corruption whichever way they spin things.
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    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2011 at 5:40 pm
    maybe crakr is being facetious, but if not, his reaction to my pic makes travolta look subtle
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2011 at 6:37 pm
    vorpalsword: I can only guess that a banana rammer like yourself would know all about hiding in the closet.

    Too bad your aim at me is way off target.
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    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2011 at 6:49 pm
    wow, stay classy crakr
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    February 19, 2011 at 6:51 pm
    vorpalsword: You delete your slander, and I`ll delete mine.
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    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2011 at 7:11 pm
    ...meh, im straight enough to not be affected by your comments.
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    February 19, 2011 at 7:43 pm
    CrakrJak said: "vorpalsword: I can only guess that a banana rammer like yourself would know all about hiding in the closet.

    Too bad your aim at me is way off target."


    Sorry Crakr...but there`s more evidence to suggest that people who think homosexuality is such a huge deal are closet cases themselves. (and yes..I can name SEVERAL cases to back my point up.) Vorpolsword did not slander you. He made a reasonble observation thaty you were probably a closet gay. While sad that you can`t be yourself, it`s not insulting, therefor, it`s not slander. You, on the other hand, just suggested that he likes to stick fruit up his sphincter. (graphic details for your benefit). That could be construed as being insulting, so, you`re the bad guy in this whole deal. Let me give you a word of advice, skippy. If people want to live their own lives and be happy, and it doesn`t affect you, lay off the insults, MYOFB, and be nice. It works, you know. :)
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2011 at 9:05 pm
    jtrebowski: there`s more evidence to suggest that people who think homosexuality is such a huge deal are closet cases themselves.

    Said just like a liberal that likes to cloak their slanders in bullcrap psycho babble.

    I`m straight, I love women, period. But you two keep on with your infantile invectives, It demonstrates how far moronic trash like you will go to defame those whom YOU fear.
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    February 19, 2011 at 9:13 pm
    [quote">moronic trash[/quote">

    No no no this is moronic trash. You yourself can`t make good arguments and have lost your civility to trolling.
  96. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2011 at 9:14 pm
    Said just like a liberal that likes to cloak their slanders in bullcrap psycho babble.

    that was less of a sentence and more of string of ad hominems
  97. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2011 at 11:22 pm
    Cajun: Why be civil to those that defame and defile you ?

    I tried to be civil and gave vorpal the chance to be honorable and withdraw his slander, He didn`t take it. Then jtrebowski decided to join with him.

    This thread didn`t even have a damn thing to do with homosexuality. So just exactly what am I to argue against other than their shameful detritus ?

    Why don`t you chide the REAL trolls here Cajun ?
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2011 at 11:54 pm
    Why don`t you chide the REAL trolls here Cajun ?



    Well I`ll give you that much. If Vorpal`s post was just a joke then it certainly was in bad taste. While there are indeed anti-gay activists who turned out to be MSMs (men who have sex with men) they`re few and far between. Nonetheless rather than go swingin the banhammer around I say you could`ve used a LOT more wit in your rebuttal.
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    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:05 am
    Vorp you`re a film buff

    Tom Hanks had AIDS in Philadelphia.
    Philadelphia = City of Brotherly Love

    Jak is onto something.
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    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:07 am
    I wasn`t necessarily joking, I made the pic to make a point that crakr helped prove extremely well by his conduct after I posted the pic.
  101. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:08 am
    Mike Gravel > Ron Paul

    No one remembers that wily old Alaskan Senator who knows how to grow, but doesn`t always flaunt, his wicked sweet stache`.
  102. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:13 am
    and I felt crakr needed to be called out on his use of character assassination and recycled talking points he uses so often
  103. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:13 am
    I would like it to be known that the first NARTH article under `Born that way` theory makes the claim that there is no gay gene.
    Even if there isn`t a `gay gene` how about a more recent study?
    Like maybe one produced after the entire mapping of the human Genome. You`d think there`d be important info there, no?
  104. Profile photo of trp712
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:16 am
    Just on the gene side of homosexuality: This.
  105. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:17 am
    And @Crakr,

    For someone you attacks an entire group of people, you really should watch yourself when complaining about vorp`s attempts to injure you with his tiny midget words.
  106. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:20 am
    vorpal: You`ve proven nothing but the fact that you are a slandering troll. Hope you`re proud of it.
  107. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:20 am
    and plus anyone who uses NARTH (the national association for the research and treatment of homosexuality) to back up their overly judgmental theories and stereotypes is the real troll.
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    trp712 Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:21 am
    Craker, can you explain one thing to me?

    How is calling someone gay slander? It`s akin to saying someone has black hair or brown hair. If they don`t, why does it matter so much?
  109. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:26 am
    Calling someone something they aren`t IS slander.
    But it`s definitely not as offensive as hating an entire group of people because they`re different.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:27 am
    Poefan: I didn`t `attack` any group of people, vorpal decided to take my comments out of the context of the conversation they were in to build his slipshod slander.
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:28 am
    According to googling "define slander", the definition is "words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another."

    That`s my point, how does it damage his reputation? I mean c`mon, this is 2011. I`m asking him why he cares if people on the internet call him something that isn`t actually offensive.
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:29 am
    I guess the underlying question is: Why is being gay a bad thing?
  113. Profile photo of CrakrJak
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:32 am
    trp712: IF someone called you a `bitch`, even though you aren`t a woman (and it would still be offensive even if you were) wouldn`t you be offended ? He didn`t just call me gay, he called me a `closeted gay`.
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:34 am
    That`s different. B*tch has entirely negative connotations, to all members of the population. I`m asking you why you think being gay is a bad thing.
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:35 am
    Also, i`d probably just shrug it off, since i`m not a b*tch in any sense of the word. If you`re not gay, why do you care so much that Vorpal is saying you are?
  116. Profile photo of Poefan101
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:39 am
    Being a man who loves swallowing large quantities of warm semen, I can say that I am no b*tch.
  117. Profile photo of CrakrJak
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:41 am
    trp712: If he just said I was `Gay` I`d have laughed it off as the moronic statement it was.

    He made the specific accusation that I was a `closeted gay`. There is a big difference and it is defamatory.
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:42 am
    How is it defamatory? I honestly don`t understand it. Why is being a closeted gay a bad thing? Explain it to me like i`m 5.
  119. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:42 am
    ...my bigger point is that crakr the true troll for making hateful comments like that and using equally hateful websites to back it up.
  120. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:47 am
    You can`t use the argument `I love them, I don`t have to tolerate them` because when Jesus said things like `Love your neighbor` he was using `Love` because it`s the strongest word possible and you`re supposed to love them a lot.
    He said `Love` so he didn`t have to say `Tolerate, respect, like, care about, etc. etc.`. He said `Love` because you`re supposed to love the homogays, not discriminate.
  121. Profile photo of CrakrJak
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:48 am
    vorpal: If you had read the comment I made regarding that the original study came from a `Gay` magazine. But they had deleted all of their old articles from issues previous to 2008.

    People were asking for a source to my claim, I gave them one. NARTH is not a `hate` site and their own mission statement says that they respect the right of anyone to choose their own destiny.
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:50 am
    Not sure if you`re doing it on purpose or not Crakr, but you`re ignoring my question. Why is it bad to be gay?
  123. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:52 am
    crakr if you want to defend your character answer terp`s questions.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:53 am
    Poefan: Love in that context does not mean sexual love, but the love of a fellow human being. Also, the bible clearly states to love the sinner, not the sin.
  125. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:54 am
    I never said it was `bad to be gay`. I stated it was bad to state that someone is a `closeted gay` when they are in fact straight.

    IF you can`t recognize that difference then you are being intentionally obtuse.
  126. Profile photo of trp712
    trp712 Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:55 am
    Why is it bad to be a closeted gay?
  127. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:56 am
    thanks for the "love the sinner not the sin" quote because you`re still saying that homosexuality is sin.

    Again answer terp`s questions if you want to clean your reputation.
  128. Profile photo of Poefan101
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:58 am
    He`s not being obtuse Crakr.

    As a jissm taster I think trp is rather acute.
  129. Profile photo of Artichoke
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:58 am
    Trp, it is obviously bad to be a closeted gay because that`s the worse type of gay. I would much rather be a dresser gay, or even a bookshelf gay.
  130. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:00 am
    vorpal: I don`t need to prove anything to you.

    trp712: I`ve already stated my case, quit repeating why why why why. that`s the sort of brainwashing crap scientologists use. If you don`t understand how that is defamatory toward me by now then you never will.
  131. Profile photo of trp712
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:00 am
    You make a very good point, Ms. Artichoke. Totally makes sense now.
  132. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:00 am
    Arti you`re totally a closet gay.

    We all know how much you love clothes, and storing things inside of yourself.
  133. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:01 am
    Scientology is as valid a religion as any other.

    You bigot.
  134. Profile photo of trp712
    trp712 Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:01 am
    Lol, that`s a copout, Crakr. I`ll rephrase. Is it offensive to you because of your religious beliefs? Because of what it says in the bible?
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:03 am
    Inb4 Tom Cruise gets the aliens to smite Crakr.
  136. Profile photo of Artichoke
    Artichoke Female 18-29
    198 posts
    February 20, 2011 at 1:03 am
    Well Poe, you`re a fridge gay. You`re cold and full of booze and nothing else. Especially not love. :`( THAT`S ALL I WANT OF YOU POE. ONLY YOUR FREAKIN LOVE.
  137. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:06 am
    I am SO GLAD you mentioned scientologists, because scientologists have an issue with homosexuals. You are much more closer to them than any of us crakr.
  138. Profile photo of outdoorMINER
    outdoorMINER Female 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:07 am
    @ Crakr:
    "defamation (of character) n. the act of making untrue statements about another which damages his/her reputation"

    Last time I checked, your reputation here was the site`s Town Bigot. So, by definition, we`re damaging that reputation - which then entails that we are making you look good. So...you should be thanking us.
  139. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:08 am
    Arti I can`t love you.

    You`re in the closet.
  140. Profile photo of bumbleBB
    bumbleBB Female 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:09 am
    WHOA What started as blissful reminiscing about the days of yor when Davy and I flamed against the likes of crakr, has erupted in a delightful coming of all my favourite IAB regulars. SEXUAL.
  141. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:09 am
    and I can back that up too http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/02/14/110214fa_fact_wright
  142. Profile photo of Artichoke
    Artichoke Female 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:09 am
    And you`re in the fridge. Our parents will never allow it. The closets and fridges are mortal enemies. We could never be together. :`(
  143. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:11 am
    So if I`m in the fridge, and you`re in the closet.

    I guess Crakr`s in the pantry.
  144. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:11 am
    trp712: I saw through your line questioning a half-hour ago, No matter how I answer you`ll either say vorpal`s slander either wasn`t offensive or you`ll say that my beliefs are.

    You phrased the question with a false premise to begin with, That falsehood being that I believe `gays are bad`.

    So keep on asking till your fingers fall off, I don`t care. You know that lying about someone`s sexual orientation is defamatory and you are attempting to absolve him of it through subterfuge.
  145. Profile photo of Artichoke
    Artichoke Female 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:12 am
    Because he`s full of arguments that don`t really have much taste to them?
  146. Profile photo of bumbleBB
    bumbleBB Female 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:12 am
    What the drat is going on here? Why are my panties moist?
  147. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:13 am
    Crakr Im going to assume you supported prop 8, as did the church of Scientology. You should consider converting...

    seriously I don`t see how terp asking you to clarify your point is "brain washing"
  148. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:14 am
    No because Crakr`s go in the pantry.


  149. Profile photo of trp712
    trp712 Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:15 am
    Also, the bible clearly states to love the sinner, not the sin.
    You`re saying that homosexuality is a sin. Sin is a bad thing. Therefore, homosexuality is bad. Therefore, BEING homosexuality must be bad, since by your reasoning it`s a bad thing to do.

    Hmmm.
  150. Profile photo of Artichoke
    Artichoke Female 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:15 am
    Artichokes don`t go in the closet though!
  151. Profile photo of trp712
    trp712 Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:16 am
    Also, I don`t see how him giving his opinion about your sexuality, based on evidence, is slander.
  152. Profile photo of trp712
    trp712 Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:16 am
    Sorry, **BEING homosexual.
  153. Profile photo of outdoorMINER
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:16 am
    I`ll have to keep "subterfuge" in mind when I Scrabble tomorrow.

    Also, I hate to bring up the Buzz Word of the morning again, but the whole "defamatory" remark is getting old. That`s your only defense. What`s really lying underneath all of those hair plugs and that NASCAR hat (Jeff Gordon of course, given your recent preferences)?
  154. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:18 am
    That`s why being in the closet is so unnatural Arti.

    You`re finally starting to get it.
  155. Profile photo of Artichoke
    Artichoke Female 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:19 am
    It all makes sense now.

    CrakrJak...I`m on your side. I`m gonna go join to Westboro Baptist Church now.
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    bumbleBB Female 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:20 am
    You know what was a hot movie. That one where Burt Reynolds got it up the bum. Deliverance. yeah...
  157. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:20 am
    trp712: He has no evidence at all. Assumptions are not evidence.
  158. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:20 am
    You can`t go anywhere Arti, not until you and my other 5 wives finish the laundry.
  159. Profile photo of bumbleBB
    bumbleBB Female 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:21 am
    And Omissions are not admissions! YA CRAKR I love Proverb games!
  160. Profile photo of Artichoke
    Artichoke Female 18-29
    198 posts
    February 20, 2011 at 1:21 am
    It`s not my turn! It`s wife #3`s turn!
  161. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:22 am
    im going out on a limb and say that crakr is ignoring certain posts....

    i did prove that scientologists have very similar views to crakr on homosexuality and prop 8
  162. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:22 am
    Scientology is just as valid a religion as any other.

    Share the love yo`.

    L. Ron Hubbard was a living torso.
  163. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:22 am
    vorpal: so what, you want a medal ?
  164. Profile photo of outdoorMINER
    outdoorMINER Female 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:26 am
    "trp712: He has no evidence at all. Assumptions are not evidence."

    Exactly. So why are you getting so butt hurt over it? An assumption is technically hypothetical, which is technically not yet true or false. It`s just a statement of thought. A belief, if you will. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, based on your own words. ;)
  165. Profile photo of trp712
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:27 am
    I love you Miner. That was an epic bit of logic.
  166. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:28 am
    no just your real views on homosexuality so we can have proof of your bigotry so we can stop trying to take you seriously and we can move on with our lives.

    and maybe a medal or two
  167. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:28 am
    I like to think that when Crakr said being a closeted gay is bad he was saying that being gay should be celebrated.

    Let`s throw a parade.
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    bumbleBB Female 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:29 am
    Odd. It seems my left breast is more juicy than the right.
  169. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:29 am
    Forget it, Troll away. As I expected IAB would never punish anyone that slanders a Christian conservative.

    It`s a sport here, to troll like that.
    So go ahead and troll away, I refuse to be the can you kick around.
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    outdoorMINER Female 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:30 am
    Poe, I think that`s a great idea. Maybe Crakr can give us some ideas for finger foods and dress code?
  171. Profile photo of bumbleBB
    bumbleBB Female 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:31 am
    Troll a Christian conservative? Can you troll a troll?
  172. Profile photo of trp712
    trp712 Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:32 am
    Can anyone say martyr? It`s still not slander. If someone tells me I have brown hair when I have black hair, I don`t get offended and cry slander. That would just be silly.

    But hey, to each their own.
  173. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:33 am
    As I was saying,


    The pope looks like a tortoise.
  174. Profile photo of bumbleBB
    bumbleBB Female 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:35 am
    Look under the belly button. NO, look UNDER the belly button. I said under goddammit.
  175. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:37 am
    Way to go crakr, pointing out hypocracy that doesn`t exist. IAB has actually banned liberals/anarchists and the like for stuff like that so your accusations are BS.

    and stop it with the MASSIVE victim complex, you haven`t been banned or punished at all. in fact you should thank the mods for still allowing you to post on the site and putting up with your crap
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:48 am
    Sorry, James. I like to disappoint you.
  177. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:57 am
    Like I said before crakr, ask the mods about people like stardagger, a guy who was as liberal as liberal can be and was objectively banned.

    you haven`t ever been punished or banned (unless you count this onslaught of logic and reason that has destroyed your arguments as punishment, if so you have a serious "WHY ME" complex) so stop crying.
  178. Profile photo of Cajun247
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    February 20, 2011 at 1:59 am
    ask the mods about people like stardagger

    Care to share the story?
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    phoneybone Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 2:21 am
    this could easily be solved if the guy announcing the winners simply said "and `s winner of the straw poll is..."
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    phoneybone Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 2:24 am
    and to be fair, i didn`t see a date anywhere in fox`s broadcast. only place i saw a date was added in by the video maker, so how do i know (as a viewer who doesn`t watch the news all the time) that this really was today`s new broadcast with false information?
  181. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 2:37 am
    vorpal: You didn`t destroy anything but any credibility you ever had. Being uncivil by slandering someone, is a sure sign of mental weakness.

    You couldn`t even keep to the topic, You had to resort to a personal attack. That`s the sort of crap children do.

    You`re nothing more than a mental midget and always will be. So remain being proud of that, one day it will come back to haunt you.
  182. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 2:45 am
    you didn`t address the fact that you`re victimizing yourself for something that has never happened to you

  183. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 3:14 am
    sorry crakr, im just defending the site against your baseless accusations
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    February 20, 2011 at 3:17 am
    Ignoring that he states he is a Christian and that his Mother is a Christian. You, In identical fashion to Vorpal, have IMPLIED that he is a muslim- using hearsay and circumstantial evidence. Either Calling Obama a Muslim IS IN FACT Libel and people should be sued (including those on Fox News, CNN, MSNBC and etc. that continue to imply such) or it is not, and therefore, neither were Vorpals implications.

    Meanwhile you have explicitly and continually made direct allegation that Vorpal (and others) are gay, liberal, and a host of other relatively defamatory statement- with no evidence. This, without question, IS slander. Simply put, your argument wouldn`t hold up in any court, nor is it holding up to the mods now, and all you do is whine. Grow up.

    P.S. Telling you to grow up is not libel as you`ve demonstrated a tendency to act in a nature which could be communally determined as "childish."
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    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 3:18 am
    On top of that- you have also made graphic accusations of Vorpal engaging in anal-sexual stimulation with fruits. So, you have explicitly made two defamatory comments, while Vorpal implied one.

    Vorpal is a 20-something nobody with no track record of "trolling" or hate speak; you`re 40+ years and often accused of "trolling" and have a vast record of speech that can be construed as "hateful."

    You also tried to defend calling President Obama a Muslim, because his father and step-father were Muslim and parts of his family which has has had virtually no contact with for the majority of his life believe he is Muslim
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    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 3:18 am
    For the record- Vorpal has demonstrated right wing- libertarian tendencies with his only "liberal" ideals being social issues. By your logic, calling him a "liberal" is equally as slanderous as calling you a "closeted gay," which he also DID NOT do, he simply IMPLIED. Neither being liberal nor being gay are inherently bad- per your speech you are not gay, neither is Vorpal a "liberal." Applying this logic means that you have slandered Vorpal equally.
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    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 3:25 am
    The issue here is that YOU are failing to elaborate on WHY you find being called a "closeted gay" offensive, using weasel phrasing, ignoring the questions and providing answers to questions that were not asked- all the while claiming that you`ve sufficiently answered the initial question,

    What TRP was getting at is that either you believe being gay is BAD, which is your OPINION and hold no basis in objective reality and therefore cannot be judged as slanderous- OR you don`t find it offensive at ALL and are trying to be a drama queen.

    In either event- the solution would be for both parties to stop talking to each other, and/or "man-up."
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    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 3:26 am
    TRP asked you a specific question:
    How is it that being called a "closeted gay" is offensive. YOU skirted around the issue by saying, that being called gay isn`t bad but being a CLOSETED gay is- which does not answer the question of why it offends you. The reality is that people with responses similar to your own typically feel that homosexuality is disgusting, physically repulsive, wrong, evil, vile, etc. Which of course is completely subjective and holds no basis in reality. You have implied that homosexuals are more promiscuous than heterosexuals, which has been debunked time and time again- which provides further evidence to your opinions.
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    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 3:28 am
    @Crakr

    "I saw through your line questioning a half-hour ago, No matter how I answer you`ll either say vorpal`s slander either wasn`t offensive or you`ll say that my beliefs are.

    You phrased the question with a false premise to begin with, That falsehood being that I believe `gays are bad`. "


    Ohhhh Boy... Where do I start?

    Crakr complains that someone else is trying to get him to be concise and to elaborate on an issue... then when he gets calle dout for failing to do so, gets butt-hurt about it...

    Correct me if I cross a line (everyone that has ever had an argument with him) but is this not the same tactic he uses? Imply that because you cannot articulate an opinion well enough to his standards that you`re wrong and he`s right?

    Yeah, I`m fairly sure that tactic is "Crakr 101."

    (Continued Below)
  190. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 4:41 am
    DickenMcHunt: you have ... made direct allegation that Vorpal.. (is) gay (a) ..relatively defamatory statement

    How is it that being called a "closeted gay" is offensive.

    Contradict yourself much ?

    Crakr complains that someone else is trying to get him to be concise and to elaborate on an issue

    The question was not asked `for clarity` it was a leading question with a false premise.

    you have also made graphic accusations of Vorpal engaging in anal-sexual stimulation with fruits.

    Actually I never specified any location, on his body or otherwise, to where he rams a banana. For all I know he rams bananas in police car tailpipes in his spare time, so just how would that be `offensive` ?
  191. Profile photo of DickenMcHunt
    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 5:03 am
    Me "you have ... made direct allegation that Vorpal.. (is) gay (a) ..relatively defamatory statement
    How is it that being called a "closeted gay" is offensive."
    Crakr: "Contradict yourself much ?"

    No- I don`t You selective edit me, much:
    Actual quote- "Meanwhile you have explicitly and continually made direct allegation that Vorpal (and others) are gay, liberal, and a host of other relatively defamatory statement- with no evidence."

    I never said that being gay is defamatory, I said that you called people gay and liberal and also other comments that can be construed as defamatory; to make the point that you`re not innocent- you`re equally as guilty. Which you have again proven.
  192. Profile photo of DickenMcHunt
    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 5:03 am
    Me: "Crakr complains that someone else is trying to get him to be concise and to elaborate on an issue"
    Crakr: "The question was not asked `for clarity` it was a leading question with a false premise."

    You`re right- it wasn`t asked for clarity it was asked to make a point, which was articulated in the following segment:

    "What TRP was getting at is that either you believe being gay is BAD, which is your OPINION and hold no basis in objective reality and therefore cannot be judged as slanderous- OR you don`t find it offensive at ALL and are trying to be a drama queen. "
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    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 5:03 am
    Me: "you have also made graphic accusations of Vorpal engaging in anal-sexual stimulation with fruits."
    Crakr: "Actually I never specified any location, on his body or otherwise, to where he rams a banana. For all I know he rams bananas in police car tailpipes in his spare time, so just how would that be `offensive` ?"

    You got me there! In fact it wouldn`t be offensive- which simply drives home the fact that subject statements can be argued to either side; after all Vorpal never called you a homosexual, he impled that you were a closeted gay. Nobody here will judge you if you like to compartmentalize your emotions, sometimes keeping your happiness in the proverbial closet can be a good thing.
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    vorpalsword Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 6:09 am
    Dick is not the one making the contradiction, you accused me of being gay too (except i accused you of being closeted while you just made a lousy joke). The difference between my accusation and yours is that I just shrugged it off, im straight enough to not give a damn.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 7:28 am
    CrakrJak said: "....It demonstrates how far moronic trash like you will go to defame those whom YOU fear."
    LOL!! You`re hardly fear-worthy. It`s more like loathing. Not because of your personal beliefs, but because people who share those beliefs actively try to deny others equality for no good reason. How, as an American, can you even defend that type of behavior? If I look to the recent past, it could be because you follow the good word of George "rentboy" Rekers. Or not. You tell us.
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    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 10:16 am
    Me: "you have also made graphic accusations of Vorpal engaging in anal-sexual stimulation with fruits."
    Crakr: "Actually I never specified any location, on his body or otherwise, to where he rams a banana. For all I know he rams bananas in police car tailpipes in his spare time, so just how would that be `offensive` ?"

    You got me there! In fact it wouldn`t be offensive- which simply drives home the fact that subject statements can be argued to either side; after all Vorpal never called you a homosexual, he impled that you were a closeted gay. Nobody here will judge you if you like to compartmentalize your emotions, sometimes keeping your happiness in the proverbial closet can be a good thing.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 10:41 am
    vorpal: I never accused you of being gay. Your own mind invented the context in which you took the term `banana rammer`.

    In other words your own filthy mind got the better of you, another example of halitosis of the intellect.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 10:47 am
    jtrebowski: Had no earthly idea who that was, and therefore looked up that name.

    So no, I can`t `follow` anyone I had no clue about.

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    trp712 Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    vorpalsword: I can only guess that a banana rammer like yourself would know all about hiding in the closet.
    vorpal: I never accused you of being gay. Your own mind invented the context in which you took the term `banana rammer`.
    C`mon Crakr, now you`re just being silly. the conversation is about homosexuality, and you call him a banana rammer ansd then talk about him being closeted. That`s an obvious allusion. You even go on to say vorpalsword: You delete your slander, and I`ll delete mine.. If you weren`t alluding to him being gay, then it wouldn`t be slander, and in which case you certainly wouldn`t say that.
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    trp712 Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 12:26 pm
    In other words your own filthy mind got the better of you, another example of halitosis of the intellect.
    I really don`t think he has a filthy mind for figuring out the correct context of a phrase, do you?
  201. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 2:28 pm
    trp712: According to your own definition calling someone `gay` isn`t a slander. So you are contradicting yourself from earlier.

    As for the context issue, I didn`t bring up the subject of homosexuality here, Vorpal did. He invented the context.

    I never specified a location of said `ramming`, even DickenMcHunt recognizes that fact.
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    trp712 Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 3:05 pm
    This is just getting silly. You`re twisting words, hiding behind obtuse phrasings, and refusing to admit things you obviously meant. Unless you literally mean someone hiding in a closet ramming bananas into something, then the obvious connotation is a homosexual one. If you`re gonna say something, at least stick to it. Don`t attempt to verbally twist and turn your way out of it.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2011 at 4:57 pm
    @Crakr, trp, vorpal

    Semantic argument is semantic.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 20, 2011 at 5:19 pm
    trp712: If you`re gonna say something, at least stick to it. Don`t attempt to verbally twist and turn your way out of it.

    Take your own advice first, You tried to twist and turn Vorpal`s slander as well. My banana comment was far less derogatory, But you`ve tried to make it sound worse. When that failed you tried to equate the two.

    If you are going to make the argument that being called `gay` is not bad and slanderous, at least stick to that assertion.
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    TIMESWORDSMN Male 13-17
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    February 20, 2011 at 11:24 pm
    HOLY poo THE SKY IS BLUE!!!
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    Izaq Male 30-39
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    February 20, 2011 at 11:38 pm
    American news filling the masses with bullpoo. Same poo - different day.
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    obeydarklord Male 18-29
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    February 23, 2011 at 2:04 pm
    i dont understand why fox news would go through the trouble of doin this... i mean he IS a republican...

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