Bill O`Reilly Gets Called Out On His Waves Comment

Submitted by: Rested 6 years ago in Games

A fan asks Bill what he means when he says "the tides come in, the tides go out" as an argument for the existence of God
There are 208 comments:
Male 5
it is just a matter of opinion really, but sometimes bill wants me to become ahiest, because I am a christian, and even I am not that stupid, I believe in god, but I also believe in the laws of science, I am not ignorant, but at the same time I believe there is a bigger force out there that controls everything
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Male 434
Religion can`t prove the existence of God, or that God created life, but believe it anyway. This is faith.
Science can`t prove that life formed spontaneously from a primordial soup and evolved into what we are now, but believe it anyway. This is also faith.

This is a battle between opposing faiths, and as history has shown, nothing good can come of it.

Mr. O`Reilly and his group seem to be trying to bring the two together. Not a bad cause it seems. It will be exceptionally tough as people are generally very closed minded. Still I wish them luck, just as I wish science luck in finding their own Holy Grail.

Religion has been wrong before, and will be again, just as Science (the other faith) has been wrong before and will again.
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Male 1,595
Wow, David from Beverly Hills should know not to question Papa Bear, there is just no winning against him.
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Male 90
What he just said was; that it is much easier to just believe in "god", than actually read the hundreds of scientific studies made on the subject. This guy should be shot in face with a javelin gun, jeez.
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Male 29
This man, more than anything on this Earth with the possible exception of Palin, makes me want to do unspeakably evil things. I`m a relatively normal human being, with a functional moral compass, but listening to Bill O`Reilly`s smug bullpooery, and knowing that there are others out there saying "Right on! You tell em`!" makes me want to kill everything and start over with Earth.
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Male 2,552
>dielaughing
They see me trolling...

In other news, as a Christian, I simply feel that he is quite embarrassing.
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Female 129
See, what really makes me mad is when people go around preaching against God or against evolution when they really don`t understand the subject in the first place.
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Male 29
This man, more than anything on this Earth with the possible exception of Palin, makes me want to do unspeakably evil things. I`m a relatively normal human being, with a functional moral compass, but listening to Bill O`Reilly`s smug bullpooery, and knowing that there are others out there saying "Right on! You tell em`!" makes me want to kill everything and start over with Earth.
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Male 52
This pinhead Oreally just keeps digging a hole. "Why do we have a moon, the other planets dont have that..." actually bill, Jupiter and Saturn have moons moron.
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Male 25,417
Silly people
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Male 51
This man is SUCH a fail.
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Male 338
Why does stone?
Who is banana?
When is grammar?

C`mon, you pinheads are just desperate.
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Male 241
magnets; how do they work?
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Male 10,855
@Angillion



BEHOLD OUR NEW GOD!!!
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Male 12,365
[quote]Cajun: I`ll use Angilion`s quote for you. If Mr. Peet is right ...one would be enough.[/quote]

Yes, it would.

But "my bizarre religious sect says this is true, therefore it must be" is not proof of being right.

If I were to claim that the universe was created last tuesday by Wibblefish Splartifaculum the Pink Porcupine of Bognor Regis, would you assume that it would be true if I also had a PhD?

If not, why not?
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Male 12,365
[quote]Also, how come Earth is the only planet with a moon? I don`t know of any planet with a moon, not Mars, not Venus, none. In fact, Mars and Venus are the only two planets I know of, and I just know their name from that Spice Girls song.[/quote]

Mars has two moons. Deimos and Phobos if I recall correctly. Some other planets also have moons. The gas giants have loads of moons, dozens of them.

There are even sub-planetary objects that have moons.

Moons are all over the place.
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Male 70
So, let me get this straight. When asked the question "how did it get there?", it takes MORE FAITH to simply say "I don`t know" than it does to believe a wizard put it there for some reason inconceivable by man? (I`m assuming just for sh*ts `n giggles.)
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Female 379
exploring origins and Szostakweb Research shows what we know so far about the start of life on earth. I believe these are the same people who are showing that RNA can be created in early earth history though the heating and cooling through day and night. I learned about it by watching "through the wormhole" cause anything narrated by Morgan Freeman is teh awesome.
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Male 113
Now I know what "fundlementalism" means
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Male 10,855
Fine and that is more honest than saying "God did it" and which is what Mr. Peet was trying to prove. The Milley-Urey experiment nonetheless proved a possibility.
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Male 17,512
Cajun: I think not, These hurdles have been in place for decades. If they had been surmounted it would`ve made the headlines.

As a result science still does not know what was the origin of life on earth, which is why there are people like Dawkins that believe that panspermia is more likely.
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Male 2,988
Bill O`Reilly: "I see this stuff as desperate"

I was thinking the same about your arguements, both for this as well as the original interview.
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Male 37
There must have been some species of ape out there that was like the village idiot always creating trouble for everyone else. I`m convinced people like Bill O`Reilly and Glenn Beck evolved from him.
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Male 10,855
@Crakr


To further explain the context of Angillion`s statement, they were all eventually proven WRONG!


Oh by the way it doesn`t mean that abiogenesis is false if amino acids don`t form proteins in water. It means there was another mechanism present, we need to find that mechanism.
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Male 17,512
almightybob1: What is not mentioned in that truncated article is the fact that amino acids do not form proteins in water, So her experiment is moot. Water by it`s very nature is a solvent, Duh!
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Male 17,512
Cajun: I`ll use Angilion`s quote for you. If Mr. Peet is right [quote]...one would be enough.[/quote]
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Male 876
I would like to drop Bill O`Reilly and Glenn Beck off on the moon, and leave their asses there.
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Male 23
Answering questions with questions. Goddamn thats so immature. My drating girlfriend in high school pulled that same poo on me.
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Male 1,215
No Bill, it wasn`t luck. But that doesn`t mean a disembodied space wizard did it, either.
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Female 22
Wow, this guy is dumb. Every single one of his counter-arguments can be explained through science...
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Male 47
@chewiegooey

Exactly. You can explain the existance of the moon, or why other planets don`t have them or how life evolved through scientific research and physical proof.(and then trying to disporve the theory you come up with). But all that`s irrelivent.

"How did God (or any omnipotent creator) get there?" completely rips apart his argument.

Also, How did rapists and murderers get there? Oh he made them too, Bill?? Wow, what a swell guy your god is. I can see why you follow and worship him.
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Male 53
But how did God or whomever get there?
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Male 200
i didn`t know he could be this stupid... it`s frankly mind-boggling.
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Male 139
This guy is so, so stupid.
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Male 1,256
Bill O`Reilly, you`re an idiot.
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Male 7,378
v As are yours. v
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Male 1,220
madest, your argument skills are lacking.
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Male 546
Belief in God is not logical, it is faith.
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Male 7,378
[quote]If in all the universes all things are possible...then it`s possible the IS a God.[/quote]
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Not really. God would have to live outside the 4 forces of the universe. He would have had to survive the big bang. Then that begs the question: Is he alone? Hard to imagine an individual popping into existence alone and
self teaching himself everything. Belief in God isn`t logical.
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Female 2,120
Also...
That`s no moon.
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Female 2,120
Herp.
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Male 2,229
O_o what F was that? I can easily counter what this conman had blathered on about, but that would be "feeding the trolls".

Also Jesus is not a god. So why do so many Christian fundamentalists worship him as if he/it is? And is there another source other than the bible that could confirm the existence of the figure referred to as Jesus? And why is it the "myths" that came before Jesus where used in the creation of Jesus?

I have my position on these questions, where`s yours?
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Male 730
WHO PUT THAT MOON THERE?!- God
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Male 39,619
If in all the universes all things are possible...then it`s possible the IS a God.

The problem is that there are so many gods to choose from. All of the followers think their god is the right one...but how`s a fellow to know? It`s not like they go on a game show and have to answer questions or prove their ID.

Saying it`s "Magic" kinda covers all bases and you don`t have to learn hard stuff like you do in science.
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Male 798
Believing in God!= Young earth creationism.
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Female 84
What a moron.... What.. A... Moron.
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Male 4,290
OK CJ, you asked for other scientists refuting that guy`s science.

Here you go - scientists from University College London demonstrating that mixtures of L and D amino acids will not be racemized to a 50:50 ratio over time, like your guy claims. In fact, any discrepancy in the initial ratio will be amplified until one type hugely dominates.

As published in the immensely respected peer-reviewed scientific journal Nature (volume 441), and reported here by New Scientist.
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Male 99
"the only science you will ever read atheist sourced and agenda approved."

bingo.. this message goes out to 65% of the children in the world. its quite odd the elite want to force feed such belief.. or perhaps they await the arrival to help their cause .. either way it causes confusion and differences amongst the masses.. the devils happy as long as your away from god ..
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Female 2,289
I`m not feeling as much hate as most of you are with bill right now.

Everyone has an opinion. Agree to disagree. Move on.

(Moving on is fun)
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Male 99
it doesnt take more faith to dis-believe it just a matter of arrogance over -powering the part of you that sees truth.. hence why the prophets of old were often accused of sorcery in light of clear cut evidence . i.e miracles..
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Female 412
Yeah, all luck, Bill... Just our LUCK to have someone like YOU here. ><
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Male 559
What an ignorant wretch. A waste of a human being. A pimple on the ass of humanity. A king of fools. A monkey who gets paid to entertain us.
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Male 234
What is this, I dont even...
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Male 1,108
Well, that explained everything.
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Male 3,076
this is just sad, poor ignorant bastard.
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Male 141
...wow. And he put that tie on all by himself.
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Male 1,360
yes, he`s trying to please the tea partiers so he`s pretending a mental regression.
IAB`s; do not enter in debates with Crackjakass it`s useless and the worse part is that he isn`t trolling...
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Female 1,070
... wut.

Is he serious?

He`s pulling so much stuff out of his ass i don`t even...

It`s like he`s actually trying to sound stupid or something.
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Male 2,841
There is no way Bill really is this stupid.
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Male 697
Pretty sure Mars has 2 moons and would have tides if it had oceans or the moons were big enough. Also if you explained to him how the moon and sun got there, he would say "but how did that happen" until you got all the way back to the Big Bang.

Also it`s not luck, it`s chance. Eventually there would be a planet orbiting the right distance from a star and be just the right size, and life will exist. I believe there`s lots more like it considering the number of galaxies out there.
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Male 174
Also, how come Earth is the only planet with a moon? I don`t know of any planet with a moon, not Mars, not Venus, none. In fact, Mars and Venus are the only two planets I know of, and I just know their name from that Spice Girls song.
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Male 174
I was skeptical at first but thinking about it... yeah, where does that Moon come from? I mean, it was there last Thursday, I remember it was there last year too. Was it always there? Who put it there? I don`t know. Probably God I guess? It`s like that air freshner behind my toilets, I didn`t put it there. Must be a miracle.
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Male 10,855
As to Mr. Peet`s science, Serpentchick made some comments a while back.
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Male 10,855
See Crakr Mr. Peet`s integrity on the matter is in question here. He is helping the Discovery Institute have a very credible topic removed from public discourse. This way people can be willfully ignorant of science. Now IF he wasn`t affiliated with previously mentioned groups we wouldn`t question his integrity. We don`t know but we want future scientists to find the answers in a scientific process. We will eventually find the answer without invoking God.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Angilion: Where is he deceitful ? Show me.[/quote]

He`s deceitful when he pretends his religious sect is science.

[quote]Will you then say the PHD professors he quotes at the end are `deceitful` as well ?[/quote]

If they`re saying the same thing and he`s not just quoting them out of context or lying, yes.

[quote]How many PHDs does it take, saying the same thing, to gain credibility ?[/quote]

An irrelevant question.

The most famous example would be Einstein`s initial papers on relativity and one response to them - a pamphlet entitled "100 scientists against Einstein". His reply was that if they were right, one would be enough.

When you pass religion off as science because you can`t destroy science in open opposition, you`re being deceitful. It doesn`t matter if you have a PhD. It doesn`t matter if there are a billion other people doing the same thing.
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Male 58
hhhmmmm, so how did god get there?

Why, just because we can`t explain how it got there with our current knowledge and understanding, does that mean god put it there?

And Mars doesn`t have tides cause there`s no water on it dumb-ass.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Also, I have a feeling that even if I did cite a peer-reviewed source you would still decry it as `young earth creationism`.[/quote]

Just try us. I bet you can`t even find an article.



[quote]He believed the physics of the universe were God given[/quote]

Even he did he didn`t try (not very hard at least) proving that aspect of his science.
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Male 17,512
Cajun: Sir Isaac Newton, Did believe in God and was very interested in alchemy and `bible code` searching (But he didn`t have a computer to help him in that endeavor). He believed the physics of the universe were God given, Does that mean his science is irrelevant as well ?
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Male 17,512
Angilion: Where is he deceitful ? Show me. Will you then say the PHD professors he quotes at the end are `deceitful` as well ? How many PHDs does it take, saying the same thing, to gain credibility ?

Again, a `no-true-scotsman` false argument in the making.
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Male 17,512
davymid: Correct me if I`m wrong but only `Universities` have PHD degree programs. At least that`s the rule here in the states.

You are also still avoiding his scientific explanation, If it`s so easy to refute him, then please do so and quit tossing around the `young earth creationism` phrase just to avoid the topic.

Also, I have a feeling that even if I did cite a peer-reviewed source you would still decry it as `young earth creationism`.

That`s a `no-true-scotsman` intentional logical fallacy just waiting to happen. I`m afraid that makes the only science you will ever read atheist sourced and agenda approved.
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Male 106
What`s more disturbing? The fact that this guy honestly believes all this, or the fact that this guy has a huge voice in peoples thoughts and opinions?
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Male 6,737
This guy is really a drating idiot.
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Male 31
The stupidity is overwhelming. The moon was formed by a mars-sized body impacting the "proto-earth" causing a huge amount of debris to be flung into space which eventually formed into the moon. The sun was formed about 4.6 billion years ago due to the gravitational collapse of a hydrogen molecular cloud.Mars has 2 moons, Venus used to have a moon caused by a large impact event (just like Earth)however another impact event cause the planets spin direction to change causing the moon to spiral inwards and collide and merge with Venus. Amoebas, i dont really know biology isnt my thing but they werent the very first organisms on earth so i presume evolution from primitive single celled organisms. Other planets are not in the "habitable zone", the range from a star in which a planet can maintain liquid water. But extremophiles (bacteria able to live in harsh conditions) could survive in the underground oceans of Jupiters moon Europa. F**ck You Bill O reilly
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Male 12,365
The issue of the academic quality of Wolverhamption Polytechnic is a bit of a derailment.

It wouldn`t matter if he earned a PhD from the best uni in the world before he abandoned science in favour of using a peculiar sect of a religion to attack science by deceit.
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Female 379
There`s also the basic fact that it`s not showing exactly HOW life started on this planet, just giving credence to the possibility that it DID form. There`s even ideas that it came from other planets on a meteor and managed to survive (similar to water bear in ability to survive space) which means that the gasses and stuff mean less for the idea of spontaneous life. Without a time machine, we`ll never know exactly what happened, it`s all speculation.
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Male 10,855
Say GM is also a brilliant example of how age != quality.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Not only that, but some scientists have even been caught faking their science just to support current sacrosanct theories.[/quote]


I`ll correct you and say this is very rare. A lot of them don`t even receive Nobel awards.
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Female 379
well, I`m just a 4th year bio student, but I`ll give it a shot at the chem dude`s argument. For one thing, the fact that left handed is good and right handed is bad could very well just be because we evolved/started out just using the left ones. It could have happened the other way, it just didn`t. As for the idea of the gasses being wrong, that`s assuming life didn`t form in something like a cave/pond that had it`s own micro climate, such as the pond that has so much arsenic in it it`s amazing life makes it there. Then there`s the "“Shake it more vigorously and for longer” is not an encouraging command!". The history of the earth is pretty long. over half the time the earth existed, there was no life (as far as we can tell). there`s more, but that`s just what I could get without having to relive Ochem
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Male 10,855
Crakr MIT has more to offer than age that makes it a very capable and very reputable university.

I`ve seen Wolverhampton`s rankings and they`re horrible. On a scale of 4 they rank at 2.01.

Here`s another good example UT Austin is older than UT Arlington (my school) and has a horrible Aerospace Program compared to the latter.

Furthermore CrakrJak what the Atheist`s want to end is this notion of what Science doesn`t know can be explained by God. Sir Isaac Newton (physicist and alchemist) did NOT invoke God when he developed on the subject Gravity`s existence. Professor Peet on the other hand believes in the Young Earth Creationist crap, and has publicly said so, which calls into question his character.

As for the "heresy" remark religion should clean it`s own damn doorstep first.
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Male 12,138
Your man earned his PhD from Wolverhampton Polytechnic, long before it became a "University". As for being "one of the leading research universities in England", it`s ranked 93rd out of 132. Hardly what I`d call "leading".

Look, it`s not hard. Just cite a credible source with a respected degree published in internationally peer-reviewed scientific literature. Really, that`s all you have to do. If people like this are the best proponents you can find for your particular flavour of scientific denialism, then you`ll excuse the rest of us for not taking it very seriously.
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Male 12,138
[quote]davymid: Wolverhampton University has been around for 150 years, and is one of the leading research universities in England. But again that doesn`t count because the man happens to be a Christian. [/quote]
Nothing to do with him being a Christian, entirely to do with him being a Young Earth Creationist. It was on such a website that you found his article.

As for Wolverhampton University, a short history lesson in British institutes of education. Before the 90`s in the UK, there were Universities (Oxford, Cambridge et al) and there were Polytechnics. After that, the government (in their wisdom) decided to upgrade polytechs to Universities. They`re still way below par, and a bit of a laughing stock in the UK.

Polytechnics were kind of like advanced trade schools for vocational careers. Case in point, Wolverhampton Polytechnic had its roots in the Wolverhampton Mechanics’ Institute, providing vocational training for working men.
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Male 6
My assumption is that he HAS heard of the theories behind the formation of our solar system. It makes me curious why he instead (in a relatively abrupt fashion) rhetorically asks `Who put the moon there then - huh?!`. It doesn`t place him in a favourable light really. Science without morality would in fact be dangerous, thankfully morality is a separate entity to religion (although a lot of people turn to religion for their morality) so people can strive to maintain their morals without or without a deity. I would love this guy to enter a debate similar to that currently occurring by a couple of the more veteran posters of IAB.
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Male 17,512
Cajun247: MIT is 150 years old as well, Would you say they aren`t qualified ?
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Male 17,512
davymid: If you can`t refute it yourself, Point to some science refuting his, not ran by atheists "with an agenda".

If an atheist found any proof of "Design" he`d throw it out, Because it wouldn`t fit his worldview or he knows he`d be ostracized like the hundreds of others that have written papers on similar subjects.

The current scientific regime will not tolerate what it deems to be "heresy", even when that science is well researched and unmistakable.

Not only that, but some scientists have even been caught faking their science just to support current sacrosanct theories.
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Male 10,855
[quote]150 years[/quote]

Sorry Crakr
Time != quality
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Male 551
You pinheads...
That`s probably the most intelligent and coherent
thing that ever comes out of that old man`s mouth

GOD I hate him...
See what I did there? ;)
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Male 798
@Davy:


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Male 17,512
davymid: Wolverhampton University has been around for 150 years, and is one of the leading research universities in England. But again that doesn`t count because the man happens to be a Christian. </sarc>

I`m more apt to believe that you can`t find any flaw in his science and thus have to revert to smears.
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Female 400
Because duh. Almighty man in the sky put it there.

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Sarcasm.
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Male 12,138
[quote]The writer has a PHD in chemistry and you dismiss it like it`s nothing. [/quote]
Alright, looked into him a bit further. You`re right, he does have a PhD. From Wolverhampton Polytechnic (lol), hardly a bastion of higher learning. I note that he`s also the travelling secretary of the Biblical Creation Society.

Please provide a link from an actual international peer-reviewed science journal, not some evangelical young-earth creationist website with an agenda.
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Male 17,512
davymid: I like you you completely ignore the science in my link. Nothing in that link mentions the bible or creationism or intelligent design.

The writer has a PHD in chemistry and you dismiss it like it`s nothing. Maybe I should dismiss your PHD. next time, Just because you`re an atheist.
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Male 736
ROFL @ MrTwidget...thank you
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Male 604
No really, I could answer all of his questions when I was in the fourth grade.
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Male 2,591
LMAO @ MrTwidget
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Male 2,591
OK after this nobody can rip on 2 Dope for his famous question about magnets. This is just over the top. This is a perfect example of people just "assuming" god again, either because they don`t understand, do not wish to understand, or a combination of both. This seems to be O`Reilly`s case.
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Male 12,138
Let`s see what link Crakrjak has thrown up this time...

Aha! Interesting, if not a little predictable. Truthinscience.org is a Young Earth Creationist front group which is trying to get intelligent design taught in public schools, and is strongly affiliated with the Discovery Institute in the US. Among its Board of Directors are an Evangelical Christian and self-professed Young Earth Creationist, an Evangelical Christian publisher, and a church minister.

Once again Crakrjak, must try harder if you`re going to cite scientific sources. Religious front-groups simply won`t do.
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Male 795
I hope the moon crashes into earth and lands on Bill`s house so I can walk by and ask, "How`d that get there?"
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Male 17,512
almightybob1: Amino acids do not polymerize on their own, and no lab has ever shown that they will.

Of course artificial polymerization is possible in a lab, That is NOT what I was talking about.

Apparently you aren`t read up on your biology.
Read This
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Male 1,471
...*sigh*... please do humanity a favor and fall down a mineshaft..
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Male 2,402
How on earth can you argue with the most intelligent man on the planet!?

The result can be this for moi.

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Male 531
Im gonna kick him in the throut if its the last thing i ever freakin do...
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Male 335
After seeing this, I am confident that he`s faking it. No one is that stupid. I refuse to believe it.
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Male 423
Who the hell is that and why is he so stupid...ahh ok christianity
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Male 1,151
I just can`t drating stand this guy... ever.
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Male 798
How come we have tides? Or how come we have a moon?

drat you Bill, drat you.
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Male 2,004
i thought he was just angry and stupid, but now i can add ignorant to that list too
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Male 118
It seems Bill has found the answers he needs in life without ever doing continued research or exploring all the answers to the questions he poses. The mark of a true journalist and a cultural warrior.
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Male 2,868
I love how he sounds like he thinks that he just pwned all of the world`s scientists.

"How`d the moon get there, how`d the sun get there? hurr durr"
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Male 236
@skullgrin
I hate to break it to you bro but... there are no saturnians.
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Male 339
A 1:44 exercise in completely skirting the question/relevant issue. Well done.
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Male 12,138
Made me think of that Richard Feynman video - long, but I found it very interesting. The central point of which was, "just because you don`t understand the science behind it, doesn`t mean that others don`t".

http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=54217

Trivia: Feynman was not only one of the greatest physicists of all time, but also played the bongo drums at his local lap-dancing bar. You GOTTA respect that!
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Male 2,033
Mars and Venus: Now with no sun!

In related news, Phobos and Deimos cease to exist.
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Male 684
so rational people have more faith?
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Male 342
after all of his "no, i KNOW the moon is there (duh) - but HOW did it get there?" crap, he then runs and hides behind the most moronic statement ever: "it takes more faith to not believe..."
I suppose no one told him about gravity and mass and all that jazz?
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Male 936
i really like o`reilly when it comes to his political views, but this was just stupid.

who put the moon there? no one put it there, it happened the same way any other planet gets a moon lmao

I wonder if he thinks saturn is special because it has a ring around it. I`m sure saturnians are asking if everything was by chance then how come they have a ring and earth doesnt
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Female 16
His questions remind me of a 5 year old.

You can answer them, but then all you get is more "why" and "how" questions. You can answer all of his questions in depth and in detail, but all he will respond with is "why" because he doesn`t understand that Earth is not the centre of the universe.
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Male 223
If he hears it so much, why doesn`t he study or even look up how it got there? There`s a logical reason for the formation of our moon... This man is just aggravating =/
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Male 220
By saying "Who" put it there, he is presupposing an argument. It should be "Who" or "what" or "How did it get there" in order to get a proper answer.
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Male 476
GOD BILL IS SUCH A F U C K ING MORON!!!!!!!
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Male 161
"Okay, how`d the moon get there? Can you explain that to me?"

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Male 2,516
I`m 25 and I`m an actual scientist ... yes degree, publishing and everything
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Male 505
[quote]Ha ha ha I love all the 18 to 29 year olds that fancy themselves scientists. [/quote]

A Scientist is either;

a)An individual who follows the scientific method
b)An individual who engages in systematic activity to aqquire knowledge.

Seeing as my 3 year old cousin can fit definition B, and my 11 year old sister can fit definition A, i`d say age does not limit a person from being a scientist.
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Male 10,855
It`s just rather unfortunate that some 40+ yr olds choose to challenge science with laughable arguments.
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Male 56
"F*cking magnets!"
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Male 10,855
[quote]Ha ha ha I love all the 18 to 29 year olds that fancy themselves scientists.[/quote]


Don`t forget we 18-29 yr olds have been taught by 40+ yr olds.
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Male 140
It`s like a puddle being glad that the hole is just the right shape for it. :)
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Male 7,817
the moon is thought to have been a part of the earth until it was struck by a giant meteor and a piece got knocked off. there is also the possibility that it was just a mass from space that just got caught in our orbit. The tide is caused by the gravitational pull from outside of our planet (i.e. the moon). As for life outside of our planet, we dont know whether or not there is.
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Female 379
From the morality standpoint - science and evolution, along with rationality, can give us morals just as good as "thou shalt not kill" pretty easily, we`re not the only social animals you know.

Also for how life got here, they`re showing that RNA can be made by the day/night heating and cooling of the gasses and chemicals that were most likely around way back when. So far I believe they`ve made 2 of the 4 bases, but they may have made more since I first learned of it. since RNA is thought to be the precursor to DNA, it shows how life as we know it could happen. And without any random lightning strikes to a pool of goo :P
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Female 3,001
oh just let the old man have his views! really, i mean what difference does it make to you?
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Male 167
If these 18-29 year olds are involved with graduate research at a university, or even undergrad, then I would say their knowledge and feedback are a lot more relevant and substantial than anything you could provide
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Male 508
"mars doesn`t have them" lolz Lets hope this guy doesn`t stop fighting for christianity. Best example of stupid EVER.
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Male 186
Ha ha ha I love all the 18 to 29 year olds that fancy themselves scientists.
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Female 240
I WANT TO SHOOT HIM AND THEN MYSELF
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Male 7,378
[quote]Millions of years of photosynthesis is probably the main reason we have so much oxygen now.[/quote]
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I know you know this but there`s less oxygen now than when the earth was younger. Dinosaurs had huge cardiopulmonary systems which require immensely more oxygen than exists on Earth today.
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Male 4,290
[quote]and if polymerization `is so simple` then why hasn`t it been demonstrated in laboratory testing ?[/quote]

... it has. Countless times. Both in the lab, and in nature.
PVC, nylon, teflon. All synthetic polymers, built in labs.
Natural rubber, amber, keratin. All natural polymers, built by nature.
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Male 147
@crakrjak - Oxygen is a highly reactive substance, the only way for a planet to have an oxygen atmosphere is if there`s life constantly creating it otherwise it loses it through oxidization. That is why Earth is the only planet in our solar system with oxygen in its atmosphere. Early earth had no oxygen whatsoever until plant life evolved to metabolize the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere through photosynthesis.
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Female 1,515
@Crakr "Science is outpacing our ethics and our laws." Written by someone who has obviously never had to deal with an ethics committee to get approval for an experiment.
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Male 493
That didn`t even answer the question.
Bill O`Reilly is a bloody retard. He doesn`t even report the news. Just shoots off his half-baked opinions about different subjects and calls it the news.
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Male 4,290
[quote]The presence of oxygen would preclude any amino acids from forming and nitrogen would not only dilute the mix but form other compounds.[/quote]
I can`t find anything saying oxygen would preclude the formation of amino acids. Source please.
Further experiments were carried out which included nitrogen, and yes, other compounds were formed - in addition to amino acids. Not instead of them.

[quote]Nitrogen and oxygen are the two main elements of our atmosphere, they certainly did exist in earth`s early history. [/quote]
Again, they are the main elements NOW. Not necessarily billions of years ago. Millions of years of photosynthesis is probably the main reason we have so much oxygen now.

[quote]Life on earth only uses the left-handed amino acids, with right-handed ones mixed in, that complication makes them incapable of forming life on their own.[/quote]
Again, source that having L and D amino acids prevents proteins forming.
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Male 7,378
@ Angilion, I like that, "worshiping ignorance". That is indeed what O`Reilly and his supporters do. "I don`t know, therefore there is a God".
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Male 12,365
[quote]Perhaps that is because you can`t see where any of those scientific developments could go horribly wrong and end up killing people. Science is outpacing our ethics and our laws. Without moral guidance and a lot of careful testing, science can do evils that may never be undone.[/quote]

All well and good as long as we don`t get that moral guidance from religion, which has done far more harm than science has and far less good than science has and has no actual moral guidance in it anyway because it`s about obedience rather than ethics.

This quote sums it up:

[quote]I believe in morality, which is doing what is right regardless of what I am told...not in religion, which is doing what I am told regardless of what is right.[/quote]

No idea who said it, but that`s it in a nutshell.
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Male 12,365
[quote]The "How`d it get there?" argument is no doubt the most compelling argument for god ever created. There is simply no rebuttal which cannot be refuted with a simple, "Yeah, well how`d it get there?"[/quote]

Do you realise that means that you are defining your god as ignorance?

That argument is "If I don`t know something, it is god".

You are literally worshipping ignorance.

You`re also overlooking the obvious fact that your argument applies equally well to your god - how did your god get there? Any answer you make to that question applies just as well to the universe in general.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Evolution only talks about what happens to life that exists already, but not how life starts from no life. I don`t think, and I could be wrong, that science has an answer for that.[/quote]

Science has a few possible answers, but (i) they`re all hypotheses with uncertain supporting evidence and (ii) at most it might be possible to prove that at least one of them could create life and that`s not the same as proving that it was how life was created. No scientist would claim to have the answer to that question.

If you want more details, search for abiogenesis.

There`s also the odd idea that life has existed as long as the universe has, thus making abiogenesis unnecessary.
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Male 505
[quote]An atheist would disregard a proof resulting in the existence of a deity[/quote]

If someone had valid proof of a God then i would not disregard it. Granted the proof would have to be more than "the tide, come on!".
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Male 10,855
[quote]if polymerization `is so simple` then why hasn`t it been demonstrated in laboratory testing ?[/quote]



And producing PVC isn`t polymerization?
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Male 12,365
[quote]Other planets DO have moons. The moon got here the same way the earth got here.[/quote]

That`s generally thought unlikely due to the relative masses of the moon and Earth. Current understanding implies that it`s unlikely that a moon with that much mass would form orbiting Earth. The two main hypotheses are that either the moon was formed by a collision during the formation of the Earth, before it properly solidified, i.e. that the moon is a smashed-off piece of the Earth, or that the moon formed elsewhere and was later captured by the Earth. There are issues with both hypotheses.

[quote]I`m also pretty convinced that there is other life out there.[/quote]

It would be very weird if it wasn`t. The collection of requirements seems to be extremely unlikely to happen, but (as you point out) there are so many stars that even extremely unlikely things would happen repeatedly.
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Male 7,378
[quote]An atheist would disregard a proof resulting in the existence of a deity just as quickly as believers disregard the proof that some aspects of their religion are either incorrect or fanciful.[/quote]
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That`s a jump. Provide scientific proof of a God and I`ll become a Christian. So called "miracles" are not proof of God nor is a 2000 year old book. The fact that we`re here is not proof either. God is man made not vice versa.
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Male 670
jesus drat, dont give this prick any more attention. OK?!?!?!
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Male 364
There is no sense in arguing with a pig. It only frustrates you and irritates the pig.

Whomever you believe the "pig" is in these arguments, the results are the same - people believe what they WANT to believe, not what can be "proven". An atheist would disregard a proof resulting in the existence of a deity just as quickly as believers disregard the proof that some aspects of their religion are either incorrect or fanciful.
I personally don`t understand why either side invests so much time and energy in trying to convince the other side they are wrong...
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Male 17,512
almightybob1: The presence of oxygen would preclude any amino acids from forming and nitrogen would not only dilute the mix but form other compounds. Nitrogen and oxygen are the two main elements of our atmosphere, they certainly did exist in earth`s early history.

Life on earth only uses the left-handed amino acids, with right-handed ones mixed in, that complication makes them incapable of forming life on their own.

and if polymerization `is so simple` then why hasn`t it been demonstrated in laboratory testing ?
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Male 8
So many questions, let me simplify it for you:
"How did...?" = Not Magic.
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Male 384
@duffy- you beat me to it.
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Male 88
And yet he`ll be the first one to rely on science to keep him alive as long as Mr. Burns.
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Male 757
lol he removed the comments section
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Male 39,619
"How did the moon get there?"

Glen Beck put it there!
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Male 505
[quote]Perhaps that is because you can`t see where any of those scientific developments could go horribly wrong and end up killing people. Science is outpacing our ethics and our laws. Without moral guidance and a lot of careful testing, science can do evils that may never be undone. [/quote]

Without moral guidance an ordinary human can do great evil. You seem to be forgetting all the good science (and curiosity) has brought us. Without it we`d still be attributing sickness to miasma, humors and the will of God. Without science you wouldn`t be typing on the computer. You probably would be well past your life expectancy if curiosity wasn`t around.
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Male 7,378
The eagerness of life to exist caused life. Billions of years of molecules colliding created amino acids (which are the building blocks of proteins) and thus the building blocks of life. Science figured that out, not me.

And Mars has 2 moons Phobos and Deimos.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Human Cloning[/quote]

Oh come on there are a LOT of diseases which can be cured by this. Furthermore, we`re not cloning entire humans just organs.

[quote]Bio-engineered Food ?[/quote]

HAH, that`s been going for at least 5,000 years! It`s called <drum roll please>
[spoiler]Selective Breeding[/spoiler]
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Male 5,194
More profound question: Why does anybody care what Bill O`Reilly thinks?
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Male 4,290
- In what way were they `wrong`? The Earth`s atmosphere contains plenty of oxygen and nitrogen NOW, but it was in all probability very different several billion years ago. Besides, even if the conditions were not the same on prehistoric Earth, it still demonstrates that life can form from non-life under SOME conditions, without God entering the equation at all.

- BOTH L and R amino acids were produced. Not the wrong ones.

- Polymerisation is very simple. It may not have occurred specifically in the Miller-Urey experiment, but they weren`t testing for that. Probably because it`s so basic. Quick refresher on how to get polypeptides from amino acids.
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Male 282
yep, I agree. Bill lives in willful ignorance. his typical answering questions with questions rhetoric is just silly. And to think this guy gets paid mega money to spew toxicity on TV should show one the sad state of affairs.
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Male 977
HOW DID THE MOON GET THERE?! GOD THIS MAN IS A dratING MORON
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Male 7,378
OK when I saw this video I knew it had to be posted here but I couldn`t his leave his youtube page without leaving a comment of my own. Overall the comments were harsh, people calling him a moron, idiot, stupid and even pinhead. I jumped in to remind people that Bill O paid Andrea Macris $10,000,000.00 to STFU about the lufa and the dildo and within 5mins of posting that comment I was banned from commenting on any of Bills videos.
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Male 17,512
almightybob1: There are myriad of problems with The Miller-Urey experiments. First off the atmospheric conditions that they assumed to exist were wrong (No oxygen or nitrogen present), The experiment produced the wrong kinds of amino acids to produce life (left handed vs. right handed), and beyond that you`d need the amino acids to join together (polymerise) to form proteins (which hasn`t been done).
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Male 38
his ignorance is mind numbing. it must be nice to know without a doubt that there is no life anywhere else in the universe.
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Male 639
Crakr, I see where they can go wrong, but I can also see where they can go awesomely right. And we`ve been eating bioengineered food for thousands of years, and genmod for quite a while.
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Male 639
Mars has two moons, he never said the number of moons was the measure of a planets greatness, the way I interpreted the message was that we live in an incredibly ordered universe and the result is that with these laws of nature we get to live on Earth. If you believe in this God, it would seem that part of His intentions was life on Earth. For the record, he did not say that a planets measure of value is in its possession of satellites, and for everyone else who thinks Mars has no moons, it actually has two, Phobos and Deimos.
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Male 17,512
kingpong: Perhaps that is because you can`t see where any of those scientific developments could go horribly wrong and end up killing people. Science is outpacing our ethics and our laws. Without moral guidance and a lot of careful testing, science can do evils that may never be undone.
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Male 4,290
Rick_S: You`re right in that we don`t know exactly how abiogenesis occurred on Earth, but we DO know that life CAN form from non-life under certain conditions. The Miller-Urey experiments in the `50s created 20+ amino acids from inorganic compounds, proving that, under certain atmospheric conditions, abiogenesis IS possible.
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Male 2,384
no bill, desperate is believing in fairy tales about how somebody lived inside a whale or a man who healed the blind
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Male 4,290
[quote]I disagree with his politics 90% of the time, but that doesn`t make him an idiot.[/quote]
No, it doesn`t. But thinking that Earth is somehow `better` since it has a moon whereas Venus or Mars do not - THAT makes him an idiot.
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Male 694
"All the God talk on this site is getting pretty old."

Be my best friend please.
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Male 639
CrakrJak, all of those things you listed as bad, I`m looking forward to.
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Male 881
Pat Bill on the head, give him a cookie, and let him go with his cameras while the adults work on solving the real mysteries.
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Male 4,290
If you want, Bill, I`ll go get my 10-year-old cousin, and he can sit you down and explain the answers to those incredibly basic questions you just asked. Not that you`d listen.

Jupiter has 63 moons. Therefore according to O`Reilly-logic, it is 63 times more God-designed than our humble one-moon Earth. Since, you know, the number of moons determines how much effort God put into a planet.
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Male 639
@Reganom, watch him off his show, he` a really smart guy. His show-argument style isn`t necessarily what I`d use, but he`s not the only one doing it, KO is just as guilty as Bill. I disagree with his politics but I still respect his opinion. Compared to everything else on Fox (which I know doesn`t mean much) he is Rainman-smart with Kennedy-charisma. He caters to a specific audience and on his show he has a role to play. There`s a reason Colbert pays homage to him. Look for him when he`s not playing that role and he`s a rational intelligent person. I disagree with his politics 90% of the time, but that doesn`t make him an idiot.
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Male 505
[quote]Mankind became `curious` about the atom and look where that got us into, nuclear weapons. [/quote]

Curiosity also brought you a longer life expectancy, computer, medical advancements. To say that curiosity brings naught but evil is wrong.
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Male 505
[quote]but not how life starts from no life. I don`t think, and I could be wrong, that science has an answer for that[/quote]

Correct, science hasn`t found an answer to the how life started. We may never have one, but we keep searching.
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Male 17,512
Reganom: Curiosity to what end ? Mankind became `curious` about the atom and look where that got us into, nuclear weapons.

How much more trouble will blind stumbling `curiosity` get us into ? Human Cloning ?, Bio-engineered Food ?, Jurassic Park ?
Unfettered curiosity can bring as much evil as it can good, and there is already too much evil in the world.
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Male 3,327
One other thing, Bill. My ignorance of your religion does not decrease it`s validity. Your ignorance of science does not decrease it`s validity. You need to seek out an education on this material before you dismiss it with a simple "How`d it get there?"
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Male 3,327
Science can answer every question he has asked with the exception of how life got started. Evolution only talks about what happens to life that exists already, but not how life starts from no life. I don`t think, and I could be wrong, that science has an answer for that. As for how the moon got there, and why we have one and Venus and Mars dont...A big meteor collided with the Earth and the remnants of that collision formed the Moon. Mars and Venus don`t have one because they haven`t been hit, yet.
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Male 4,745
I had no idea how much of an idiot he is.
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Male 505
[quote]Bill is the one Fox guy I actually have some respect for[/quote]

Based on the videos i`ve seen, his interview with those he disagree`s with is to shout louder than them, create strawmen arguments, ad hominem attacks, appeals to ridicule and a variety of other logical fallacies and attacks. Not something i respect in a person :S
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Male 359
All the God talk on this site is getting pretty old.
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Male 2,670
Sheesh, what a freaking idiot! I had no idea the man was that stupid...
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Male 639
I generally disagree with Bill, this is not an exception. However, I see what he`s trying to get at, he just does a poor job of articulating. To me, it sounds like he`s referring to the Watchmaker God, the one Einstein and Newton believed in. To him (as I interpret it), God put the rules and regulations in place that would lead to what we have now. I am not saying he is correct, but his statement doesn`t make him an idiot, inarticulate maybe, but not an idiot. Bill is the one Fox guy I actually have some respect for. I don`t see why God and science have to be mutually exclusive, I personally don`t believe in a god, but there is no reason that a god couldn`t have put these rules in place.
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Male 310
I like how he doesn`t give anyone a way to respond to him in the youtube comments or on his page...
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Male 505
Wow, how can you go through life without bothering to learn anything about the world you live in, and just sit back and say "God did it". Is there no curiosity in those kinds of people?
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Male 106
The "How`d it get there?" argument is no doubt the most compelling argument for god ever created. There is simply no rebuttal which cannot be refuted with a simple, "Yeah, well how`d it get there?"
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Male 1,292
Bill: "...did it just happen..."

why yes, as a simple way of saying it, yes it did.
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Male 964
0:17

He`s about as intricate as a bowl of jelly :| !
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Male 605
The moon was formed some 30–50 million years after the origin of the Solar System. It`s thought a mars-sized object collided with the newly formed earth and splintered off fragments which formed the moon.
The sun formed from a giant cloud of dust. The dust consisted mainly of hydrogen and helium, but a fair amount of other stuff as well, which was left over from the explosion of an older star. The dust pulled itself together by its own gravity until it was a giant ball. At the centre of the ball, gravity was so strong that it pressed the hydrogen atoms together so close that a nuclear reaction started. The sun is a giant hydrogen bomb.
`Who` put them there is anybodies guess.
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Female 243
Wow. Ive never been more convinced that Bill O Reily is a complete idiot. Other planets DO have moons. The moon got here the same way the earth got here. I`m also pretty convinced that there is other life out there. What with the trillions of stars just like the sun and galaxies out there. Look theres no use in arguing how did the moon get there, how did EVERYTHING get here? Yhe universe is so vast we cant comprehend. Its wonderful to think about the wonders and mystery but an anwser isnt anywhere near our time.
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Male 15,510
This makes me feel physically ill
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Male 1,057
Yup. Takes a lot more faith to believe in a deity...
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Male 1,178
*Facepalm*, yes.... your inability to comprehend life on earth proves the existence of God...
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Male 121
@Jats
I see what you did there. ha ha
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Male 295
O`Reilly is a drating moron. I thought we all knew that.
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Male 49
lol... moon got here because a mars size body hit earth... and life doesn`t exist on other planets in this solar system because the conditions cannot support it... frickin idiot
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Male 112
The big bang, ok, who made the big bang?
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Male 304
this man is a completly, absolutely, fuc***ing, ignorant retard...

this is ignorance at the most highest level...these people dont go to school? how come do they get a job on television and earn thousans of dolars a year???

this is unfair for all those people who go to school, spend 12 to 18 years studying, investing in their education, and end up unemployed.
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Male 17
Somehow, he found a way to follow up a horrible argument with an even worse response. Hilarious.
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Male 493
A ha ha ha. Argument from ignorance, or argument from incredulity, or God of gaps - your choice. In any case, Bill: you are a moron. There may indeed be a God, but you are a moron.
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Male 788
He looks like he needs a fist in his face. Ha
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Male 663
So because we can not fully explain everything back to the root cause God must exist. This shows a complete lack of critical thinking.
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Male 242
His idiocy is astronomical.
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Male 570
Link: Bill O`Reilly Gets Called Out On His Waves Comment [Rate Link] - A fan asks Bill what he means when he says `the tides come in, the tides go out` as an argument for the existence of God
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