Bahrain`s Army Deliberately Kills Peaceful Protest

Submitted by: fancylad 6 years ago in

Bahrain"s army deliberately kills peaceful protesters with live rounds. Totally NSFW.
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Male 56
I may not be the most religious guy here, but any god who hears, save these people.
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Female 870
This is so aweful, sad, terrible, horrific, just no words for this. Imagine if guns were virtually unavailable to you. No gun rights... at all. And the government decided it didn`t like what you were doing, so just mowed you down with live fire.
My husband`s Iranian and I`m very familiar with this culture. These people are in a hopeless situation. God help them and us all through these obviously trying times in the world, and peace to everyone!
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Male 1,299
"I chastised you and everyone else `cause I have a gut feeling you won`t avert your eyes here, but in real life. When it matters."

You have no idea who any of us are, nor what we are capable of. Frankly, I resent the assumption that any of us are weak or in anyway inferior to anyone else. The freedoms allowing us to express ourselves un-oppressed are exactly what these heroes are seeking, either in full or in part, yet you attempt to retard our expression of said freedoms? On what grounds? Because you find it offensive? Because you think we`re disrespectful? You`re being naive.

Your indignation is pointless here; You clearly seem fired up- Go do something, go make a difference, go make a change; but don`t sit here and pretend that you know us, pretend like you know how or what we think, act, or feel. Don`t sit here and chastise us like you know what`s best. Because you`re not better than us: we`re all seeking answers on our own paths- you go do the same.
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Male 1,299
@SoundlesHero

"The kid got shot in the face for an ideal. Not even something tangible and you want to use this thread and this opportunity, to what? Talk about a war from 70 years ago? Talk about your cat? Your newest meme?"

Clearly you have no idea what is being discussed; and none of this detracts from the fact that this is not a memorials service- this is a place FOR DISCUSSION. Nobody is saying that what these people are going through is not heroic, or in any way diminishing the impact of their actions; and if you think that is the case- you are mistaken.

"I don`t think you understand what it truly takes to be in those people`s shoes. In fact, based on your comment, I know you don`t. I do. I`ve been there."

Your false assumptions fall on deaf ears. Your righteous anger has nothing to do with us, and is misdirected by complaining about the spirited debate here.
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Female 400
We`re an evil race.
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Male 62
DickenMcHunt:

The kid got shot in the face for an ideal. Not even something tangible and you want to use this thread and this opportunity, to what? Talk about a war from 70 years ago? Talk about your cat? Your newest meme?

I don`t think you understand what it truly takes to be in those people`s shoes. In fact, based on your comment, I know you don`t. I do. I`ve been there.

I chastised you and everyone else `cause I have a gut feeling you won`t avert your eyes here, but in real life. When it matters.

That is all.
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Male 1,299
@SoundlesHero

This isn`t a memorial service, and this is not a monument. This is a forum where discourse is encouraged.

The content posted started the conversation and it has naturally evolved- if you have a problem with what we are saying- you can avert your eyes; similarly to: if you have a problem with the video, you can avert your eyes.

Nobody is forcing you to participate in the discussion but chastising us for having one is childish. If you want to be contextual to the video, go ahead; if you want to be contextual to the conversation thread, go ahead. If you want to complain about either? Move along- because nobody cares.
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Male 550
@ SoundlesHero

Bottom line, ANY form of government will never work and will ALWAYS be corrupt. drat their gov. drat USA`s gov. It`s all a bunch of bullpoo. In my opinion what happened in Egypt needs to happen everywhere.
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Female 126
Heartbreaking. Just heartbreaking.
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Male 62
Man, only at IAB...Watching young people die for trying to gain freedoms that 90% of you already have and will NEVER have to lay down your lives for...and yet you still guys still manage to overtake the thread by arguing about politics. That`s pretty sad, man.

You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.
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Male 112
HOLY poo
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Male 12,365
Regarding the military basis, here`s what the USA government first asked for as PART of the payment from the UK for lend lease:

The Bahamas, Barbados, British Guiana, British Honduras, Jamaica (with its dependencies the Turks and Caicos Islands and the Cayman Islands), Trinidad and Tobago, the Windward Islands and the Leeward Islands.

It was haggled down to military bases and the surrounding areas in Newfoundland, Bermuda and the West Indies.

In addition to the cash, resources and massively valuable newly developed technology and the copyrights to it.
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Male 12,365
He knew the USA would have to fight sooner or later and it was much better for the USA to fight with allies in someone else`s country than alone in the USA. His hands were tied by the USA political system and widespread support for neutrality in the USA.

[quote]We had pilots going over to fly for the RAF before Pearl Harbor.[/quote]

A few dozen USA civilians chose to come here and sign up for the UK military. That wasn`t the USA being involved - that was individual bravery.

[quote]lend lease[/quote]

There you have a good point. The UK would have been even deeper in the poo without resources from the USA under the lend lease agreement, which was about as far as Roosevelt could push against neutrality before the USA was attacked.

But the USA charged a lot for it. A hell of a lot. The technological advances and associated copyrights alone were worth hundreds of billions.
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Male 12,365
[quote]tell me exactly how we made money from WW2[/quote]

USA involvement was bought by the UK with cash, resources and massive payments in technological advancements made in the UK that were hugely profitable post-war (RADAR, jet engine, programmable electronic computer, flyable supersonic plane, antibiotics, nuclear power, etc, with all copyrights signed over to the USA) and direct transfer of key military bases from the UK to the USA. Indirectly, by the UK economy being broken by the war (immediately before the war, UK GDP was half that of USA, i.e. a competitor, but after the war it was a sixth, i.e. not a competitor).

[quote]and didn`t get involved before Pearl Harbor?[/quote]

You aren`t actually thinking the USA did, are you? Have you been watching USA war films and thinking they real? e.g. U-571.

Had Roosevelt been given absolute rule, he would probably have brought the USA in earlier.
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Male 44
Is the guy at 4:11 REALLY take a cell pic of some dudes exploded head?
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Male 454
Alah Kazaam! Er, Kapow! Alah did not help you. Ha!
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Male 490
Lol, people calling for the UN? Theyre not going to do crap other than shake their finger and say "bad government!"
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Male 14,331
[quote]And the americans seem to LOVE forgetting about their arch enemies: The Russians
They had a ridiculously large army, and it was an advanced one with combat experience.[/quote]

Ummm check your facts on Russia it was not advanced or very experienced when they got involved. It was just about the opposite of thatt Stalin solved the problem by throwing people at it and in fact got rid of many leaders that could`ve helped because he saw them as a threat. One in five Russians died in WW2 not soldiers people thats what happen when you lead like Stalin.
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Male 4,546
[quote]That only makes sense if people in the ME don`t (or didn`t) actually know what free speech and democracy are.[/quote]

To know the dictionary definition of something, and to truly understand what it is, are different things.

They could always identify free speech, that`s not the issue.

P.S. Any reasons you list for lack of free speech are without merit if you fail to even mention DICTATORS with absolute control of information.

As for "association with an enemy", you`re oversimplifying.

Let`s be extremely blunt.

Terrorists shout ISLAM really loud when doing horrible things.

America shouted DEMOCRACY really loud when doing horrible things. Including supporting various forms of oppression and instigating several invasions.

In both cases, the impression is <cap`d word> makes us suffer.
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Male 14,331
Wow Europeans should practice what they preach and open a history book tell me exactly how we made money from WW2 and didn`t get involved before Pearl Harbor?? We had pilots going over to fly for the RAF before Pearl Harbor. As for lend lease we also made that before Pearl Harbor to help Russia and the UK primarily. We didn`t charge for anything before the war was over and didn`t charge for anything that was returned to the U.S.A. Those items that were kept by the UK were sold at 10% of nominal value sounds like a real money maker HUH!
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Male 4,546
"Where are the women protesters".

Further back. There`s no way they`d be put in harm`s way when shooting is a real possibility. Especially after the shooting, the first reaction would have been to take the women to safety.

They`re there though protesting too, you can see the different protests around Bahrain in the slideshow.
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Male 1,122
Not even a warning shot...
Just straight up murder.
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Male 1,268
`I hope their government burns.`

For the people who actually have experience in the middle east, this is the reality. All these claims that `white america` are a bunch of islam hating racist`s who happily seek out extremists to run ME countries for us is just ridiculous. Having worked with and killed muslim men, I/we know they`re no different than myself/us. The difference IS how childish these men`s leadership is.

Meanwhile, the notion america had anything more to do with Bahrain`s leadership than, say, France is ostentatious. Currency is the only reason these guys get away with what they do, and it comes from the whole world, not just `GW Bush`
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Male 40,764
It`s difficult for us free people to understand how much courage it takes to even try to stand up for your human rights.

These brave men ARE what typical Muslims represent. It is the extremeists and corrupt rulers who I personally have a grudge against.
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Male 397
This is whwen you bum-rush the drat out of those soldiers. Kill those murderous drats.
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Male 573
Shocking display of state murder. Don`t sell more arms to this corrupt ruling&#65279; monarchy. It takes a unique kind of bastard to fire on unarmed demonstrators.
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Male 495
I`ll argue whether this is really `Not Safe For Work`. That implies that it`s pornographic or something you don`t want to be caught watching by your boss. But this is a legitimate news event. I mean it`s explicit but not `nsfw`
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Male 3
Cool
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Male 121
Rather than bitching about who got rich from whom 60+ years ago, have any of you people who are arguing the semantics of past global conflict stopped to think that you have just seen some poor bastard getting his head shot off for the right to express his views? These people have some serious stones to go up against their rulers, and I salute them.
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Female 2,674
I can`t even fathom this kind of bravery. I hope I think of this video every time I take my freedoms for granted.
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Male 22
When will their army realise that they are shooting on there own people on a peacefull demonstration?

There`s no honor in that? Where is the UN now?
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Male 586
@Mrtwidget "I hope their government burns"

Haha what government?? It`s just a rich bully with power. He said he`ll be a martyr before he leaves... pretty sure that`ll happen but he won`t be remembered as a `martyr.`
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Male 795
I hope their government burns.
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Male 349
Can i just say to you people suggesting that the U.S. saved Europe from Hitler...The U.S. wanted to avoid getting involved in the European fronts as much as possible, the only reason they helped was not out of some moralistic duty or to help their allies but because Germany outrightly declared war on the U.S. Without that the U.S. would have sat back and done nothing. And on another note, the money spent on the war by the U.S. was made as a debt to the UK with pretty large interest rates, way to cash in on attrocities.
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Female 2,525
I quit Earth.
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Male 51
Everyone is stupid, and should shut up. Show some respect for these victims.
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Male 1,547
@notorious_
I don`t know what WWII has to do with Bahrain, but I`ll bite. The US didn`t so much save Europe from Germany as it saved it from the Soviet Union. Russia`s victory was inevitable, but remember that Stalin`s goal was to spread communism to be run from Moscow. Despite the propaganda you`ve been taught in school, Britain could not have held itself up for long. Even if it could hold off a German invasion until the fall of Berlin, there was no way they could stop Stalin from continuing across the ruins of Germany, France, Italy, and Britain. Unless you`d rather have your country look like the Baltic states, you should be grateful for US intervention. If Churchill didn`t delay the invasion of Normandy for years, maybe we could have saved more of Europe from Soviet rule and the rivalry with Russia wouldn`t be so bitter (Stalin needed us to open up that western front to ease the burden on his armies and hated us for taking so long).
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Male 255
@hypno1: Try reading a proper history book. The US became a rich country from both world wars after the previous `superpowers` destroyed each others industrial base. You came in at the end, helped finish things off then grew richer than ever.
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Male 770
all i have learned is that europe hates americans and americans hate them back.

all is normal.
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Male 72
@hypno1

Its funny when you bring up the "US saved the world in WWII" argument

1. Your country was in business with them up until you entered war, providing them with supplies for war

2. It was a world war. Just because France`s main force had fallen doesnt mean a definite loss

All of Britains Colonies were basically on-call to help

And the americans seem to LOVE forgetting about their arch enemies: The Russians
They had a ridiculously large army, and it was an advanced one with combat experience. If the US didnt join the war, it would have been more difficult. But stop kidding yourself, the allies would have won without the US despite what propeganda your school might feed you
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Male 812
@hypno1
Mmmm, that`s very good and fine, until you realize that Europe, unlike the USA, is a continent, not a nation. We have many nations which have very little to do with one another. At the time your described atrocities happened, we were even less connected.

The problems we have now are largely caused by the US. Namely the financial crisis. Overcoming it demands a bit more than constantly bitching about the past. These people getting slaughtered are going to care even less about the brave and glorious deeds the US did half a century ago.
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Female 3,001
awww nos :(
this is awful!
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Male 6,737
@hypo1 "In addition, the US protected you from Stalinist Russia for 40 years. How much did that cost us?"

The US didn`t spend $XX billion to protect Europe, it did it to protect itself.
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Male 1,360
@interasting
The US wasn`t the only country in on that,
the most influent one.Let`s hope for change in the future.
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Male 51
Oh my god. I hate the world.
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Male 985
@hypno1

I like how you talk like you had something to do with it.
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Male 1,116
F*ck thats disturbing. This is the second time i watched this and it hit me harder this time for some reason. You seriously gotta admire those protester`s balls. Do yo thang, Bahrain.
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Male 985
Sweet jebus, cant the UN do something about this?
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Male 48
@hypno 1

While it`s certainly true that the US stepped in and saved Europes butt, please, don`t talk about it as if it was your choice. The only reason the US entered WWII was because the Japanese were retards and decided to bomb Pearl Harbour. I suggest you go read some history books.

As for supporting facist dictatorships- a nation, no matter which one, can never rest on its laurels. What you did last year to save the girl next to you in Calculus doesn`t exempt you from what you did this year when you helped the school bully give Sally a swirly and beat up John to take his lunch money.
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Male 493
Wow, excuse me while I go throw up.

@hypno1 You weren`t the only country in on that. Love: Canada

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Male 69
@Intaresting

How many fascists have come from your own continent? I know of at least two that the US had to save you from, at the cost of over 400,000 lives and almost 700,000 wounded. Maybe we should have just let Hitler and Mussolini have their way. How many more races would have been "cleansed" because they didn`t meet Hitler`s biological ideal? In addition, the US protected you from Stalinist Russia for 40 years. How much did that cost us?

Spare us your righteous indignation. When you start taking care of your own problems, then you can worry about ours.
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Male 304

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Male 812
Thank you, America. You have caused this by supporting facist dictatorship and electing tyrants as puppets.
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Male 3,076
What the fck is wrong with people!
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Male 56
@shalantas

I consider myself a fairly horrible person. But you, sir, have bested me.
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Male 69
@baglad - Before attacking my intellect, please get a dictionary and look up the spelling of the words "appalling" and "ad hominem"

Do yourself a favor and read through this thread and see @notorious vitriolic responses to others before hopping on your moral pedestal. The reason I jumped on his comments is I get tired of hearing the regurgitated drivel regarding US foreign policy. Do I agree with every foreign policy decision the US makes? Of course not. But I firmly believe US policy is based upon creating stability, not a hegemony.

Believe it or not, there are bad people in the world that would like nothing more than to subvert your way of life or kill you. Perhaps we should just bury our heads in the sand and hope the threat goes away.
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Male 490
Was it just me or were they shooting at people trying to help others get into the ambulance too?
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Male 1
Who else noticed the guy at 4:09 get his phone out to take a pic? :O
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Male 349
Haha, I love it how easy it is to get people`s backs up, I was saying that to show just how ridiculous these arguments are. I don`t see how people can be arguing over this...Innocent peaceful people are getting shot at, there`s no way to justify that and religion or political ideology or opinion over either has nothing to do with it. Like Sakamura said, no-one should ever have to face live rounds. End of.
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Male 426
Headshot!
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Male 456
I shed a few tears when the camera guy turned around to the bodies...this is sick....
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Male 56
This is absurd...there are no words that you can say to this that would mean a thing other than silence.

May whatever god they served have mercy on them, and vengeance on the ones who murdered them.
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Male 10,440
[quote] where were the women protesters? [/quote]
That is a VERY interesting question! Someone should go ahead and answer it!
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Male 10,440
[quote] Seriously, think about it, why would the ME have a positive view of either of those concepts when the best examples are people who continuously take advantage of them. [/quote]

That only makes sense if people in the ME don`t (or didn`t) actually know what free speech and democracy are. Which is possible I guess, however the lack of free speech in the ME has several causes:
1 - lack of understanding
2 - association with foreign/enemy west
3 - religious doctrines
4 - greed
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Male 768
Bahrain`s army has some sh*tty aim. I mean I heard at least 20 shots and they hit 2 people...
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Male 1,299
@Suicism

Shariah Law has nothing to do with Arabs; it is a Muslim concept and most Muslims do not practice it.

I find the Koran no more of less extreme than the Bible.

Osama Bin Laden does not represent the Arab world, nor Arabs and as a matter of technicality: nobody knows where he is sleeping tonight, nor is the place that he sleeps indicitive of even his mentality, let alone the mentality of the Arab world.

My sinewy, bleeding heart? Quite poetic considering you have done nothing but exhibit ignorance and bigotry. I would advise you not to make assumptions about peoples, but based on the baloney gung-ho, supremecy complex you exude and the flatout racism you`ve displayed- I think that would be asking too much.

I would spit on you and anyone like you: people that waste the brains they have. At least CrakrJak is sane...
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Male 31
where were the women protesters?
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Male 12,138
Pretty horrific, but I for one was glad it was posted. Much like the farcical "election" recently in Iran, the internet is the only outlet to get this kind of event out there into the world spotlight, where it should be. In Iran it was Twitter, here it`s YouTube.

20 years ago, it would have been "our word against theirs" as to how poo went down, and the government line would generally be believed over a group of dissident protestors. This kind of thing lets people judge for themselves.

No wonder the US wants to legislate an internet kill-switch... a bit of Vox Populi is a dangerous thing indeed.
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Male 423
I can`t stand this. I feel physicaly ill. The only positive thing I see here is that the people are strong spirited and that they`re proud to fight for what they know is right. Bahrain, F*CK YEAH!
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Male 423
I can`t stand this. I feel physicaly ill.
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Male 31
@Oscola
Allah Akhbar actually means "god is the greatest", not all muslims are extremists but i wont hold it against you...thats definitely how some of the media keeps portraying it to the general public and its pretty disgusting.
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Male 3,915
wow....first post on IAB with a mature rating much?
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Male 678
You wont find much there Shane.... go on, go to sleep I`ll show you how it`s done! Or you could just say sorry. Hell I agree with your arguments anyway. But then again I don`t like insults that have no originality to them. Come on be creative or just say sorry.....
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Female 418
0:30 why is that guy in the blue wearin his shirt like that?
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Male 4,546
Isafan, you can`t link to porn here.

Please don`t do it again.

Though thank you, it`s excellent.
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Male 243
They do realize they`re fighting fire with fire right? lol.
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Male 4,546
Heh, yeah... maybe I shouldn`t promote it as much as I have been over here....

Seriously though, you can see the acclimation.

Why did they boycott Danish products? Because they didn`t understand it had nothing to do with the Danish government.

You can see it in the responses:
"Insult blacks: Racism. Insult Jews: Anti-Semitism. Insult women: Sexism. Insult Muslims: Free Speech."

The ME still sees free speech in part in that context, because that`s the only time free speech is brought up. It`s brought up in relation to the ME when it is being used as a weapon, and never as a force for good.

Until now, where freedom of speech is finally being associated with the right to protest, and the right to speak out against your government.

You know, free speech`s primary purpose.
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Male 292
This is barbaric. This is just like Tiananmen Square protest of 1989 in China. And that guy in the front that wasn`t shot was like the tank man.
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Male 3,631
"Seriously, think about it, why would the ME have a positive view of either of those concepts when the best examples are people who continuously take advantage of them."
...
"The internet gave the ME its first positive examples of free speech and democracy."

Let`s hope they have time to acclimate before stumbling upon I-A-B..

*zing*
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Male 4,546
Suicism:
I`ve always held that divergent view. The middle east pre-internet era viewed democracy by its associations not its structure.

Similarly with free speech.

In other words, think about it as someone coming to your door offering to sell you this new fangled "free speech".

"Hi, I`m selling free speech"
"Never heard of it... got any to show me?"
"Certainly sir: drat you, your family, your views, your culture"
"Erm..."
"So, interested?"
*SLAM*

Seriously, think about it, why would the ME have a positive view of either of those concepts when the best examples are people who continuously take advantage of them.

Especially when they have no other experience of those practices.

The internet gave the ME its first positive examples of free speech and democracy.
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Male 506
What is there to comment on a video like this?

Debate on the future of further protests in the Middle East?

Argue over information in terms of fallacy or fact?

Or even debate over Western intervention, in whether we should stop the violence or leave them be, just to save the global thought of `world policing`.

From switching off your computer and carrying on with your daily lives does this really even matter? Does the deaths of civilians protesting for freedoms really touch your heart?

You`ll carry on and forget these eventually. Even in the grim dark world that there is around, you will be laughing in the end.
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Male 3,631
So you do take a divergent view from the camp that used the concept of Democracy as being an "invasion" or inherently offensive construct to those in the MS, as part of their basis of opposition to the WoT. I`ve always held that Liberty is a universal value, a catalyst of sorts in its own right, so like burbl I`m excited to see this thing kinda starting to implode on itself (if that`s indeed an indication to take from what we`re seeing). I too wish we could`ve handed all those f*ckers guns and seen them go to town on their adversaries.

Of course, I was also wondering (as they moved the barricade on their way in) was this some sort of officially, if temporarily, militarized zone? I`m sure there`s some research out there on it by now, but was just curious if you knew anything or noticed that too. I know if you march onto a U.S. Military base without authorization, things can get ugly real fast as well.
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Female 26
Oscala,
really.
really.
it seems you`ve done a little research, perhaps you should consider doing some more. Despite what they were yelling, that was a peaceful protest and even if it had been violent, there are several alternatives to firing on a crowd of innocent people to contain them. Also, not ALL muslims are extreme, Islam is actually a very peaceful religion.
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Male 667
I hope all those yellings meant "MEDIC!!!"
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Male 4,546
Suicism: Glad you like it. :) I`m planning on changing it again soon, was only supposed to be up for November.

Aaanyway. Yes, I`m suggesting that religious extremism will not grow significantly as a result of democracy.

The reason for "thus far" is just because I`m still watching the situation, and don`t have full info on all countries. Only the ones I`ve looked at, but the risk of any of them turning into a Saudi-esque state is minimal.

So what we`re looking at here is an expansion of democracy, and the picture is overall positive assuming success.

I`ve not had a good look at some of them (Yemen/Morocco/Bahrain).

To be honest, the one thing that has surprised me thus far was Bahrain. Didn`t expect it to be next at all. Something seems off there. Like Angillion, I`m getting conflicting info.
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Male 237
Am a supposedly unsensitized gamer ... and although I don`t puke my guts out, I am still near tears for such a lack of intelligence by that mercenary army. I don`t have a side from that story, but no one should ever face live ammo for protests. Even G8/20 protests are impressive, but tame in comparison. Way to do martyrs, army.
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Male 349
Well....Personally...I think that all the muslims deserve to get shot by their armies because of being so extreme and wanting to bomb the west. Plus Americans can`t be trusted because they only want the oil, so I guess that`s something important I should say. Also, they SAY it`s a peaceful protest, but they are all shouting Allah Akbar, which I read in a magazine of good repute, means "Death to infidels". So personally I don`t know what you`re all complaining about........3....2.....
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Male 3,631
Wipe that salty varnish off your cheek - we`d like to see that too.
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Male 2,796
"@splurbyburbl

Shutup you american sheep, you have no idea of how things work in the world so keeps swallowing your governments propeganda. The middle east has a caveman mentality?

You obviously do, you`re too simple minded to understand the complexity of the situation created by developed countries"

LOL, don`t be mad bro. Why don`t you go to Alexandria and try to return it to its former scientific and philisophical glory? You would have a hard time, but you sound much more smart than little old me. I am sure you can find a way.
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Male 3,631
Since you sound like you need someone to talk to Baalth, I`m going to ask where you were going with your evaluation of the religious extremist element in any of the Middle East "thus far." It sounded like you were talking about its potential for further expansion based upon what was said next - not sure where it fit in.

Optimistic on your predictions regarding the MB though; glad to hear that.

I was tickled to see your Avatar update btw.
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Male 1,547
@baglad
Obvious troll`s obvious attempt to disguise himself by calling other trolls trolls is obvious.


lrn2internets, newfag.
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Male 349
All men are created equal. No-one chooses where they are born and whether they are in a democracy or a dictatorship. It`s quite easy to denounce an entire civilisation from the comfort of your 4 bedroomed suburban abode. People are just people, they don`t necessarily represent the political ideologies of their country of origin and Islam (despite recent videos posted on here) is not the ultimate evil but a scapegoat, waggled in front of you by the media and the very people that should be answering the questions on liberty and equality.
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Male 3,631
The only think your argument called out was "Help!"
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Male 4,546
So... what`s that now, 5 worthwhile comments by page 4? Excellent.

The only one who seems to have even given any actual information (that is fact, and not opinion) is Handi, who correctly points out that the military in Bahrain is made up of effectively foreign mercenaries.

As for the religious extremist element in any of the ME thus far: Hugely unlikely.

The Muslim Brotherhood *will* fail in Egypt, and they`ll fail horrifically if they actually run anyone in the elections. They won`t get 10%. (Current polling suggests around 1%).

They`re not running anyone because they know that if they do, they`ll have no way of saying they "represent the people". By not running anyone, they can at least still go on TV and make statements.

If they run, they`ll be a national joke.
Same across most of the ME.
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Male 490
goddamm...
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Male 29
Guys I already called out your terrible attempt to troll. Maybe stop pissing on yourself now before you look any more foolish?
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Male 616
sorry, I`m in a bad mood
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Male 3,631
You missed "rediculous" - yet he somehow managed "abhorent?" Looks like we got SOMEONE`S tie-dye panties into a bunch!
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Male 616
sensible debate with an illiterate?
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Male 616
wait...puposefully???
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Male 616
Oh and *affront. `sorry, I had to`
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Male 616
*you`re
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@Suicism
When a post on i-a-b that could spark a well rounded intellectual debate is sullied by people so blinded by their own opinion into believing that anyone with slightly liberal views must be a tie-dye wearing pot smoker starts wildly insulting people then I take afront to it. While notorious may not be an amazing debater I think that the rediculous list of insults hypno1 decided to call an argument was childish and not needed. In any debate or civil argument ad-homenin attacks are abhorent and should have no response but that of disgust.
The conclusions that I drew (that hypno1 neither knew what an inferiority complex was nor could spot one in a room full of fighting siblings) seem to be well reasoned and justifiable. And commenting that his childish and puposefully offensive self is not welcome in any kind of sensible debate is entirely true.
And its not makeup, its a face mask.
By any means, I think your a troll (a bad one at that) your argument barely made an
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Male 616
@hypno1...respect for Canada? Now I know you`re a troll!
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Male 3,631
Damon - at 5 posts, I can already tell we`re going to be good friends. Welcome.
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Male 9
@baglad
I really like the part where you mock "The speed at which you fell to personal attacks" then ALMOST right away throw in a personal attack. I`m not going to try to mince words, you are an idiot.
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Male 3,631
That`s some pretty big talk two-poster - do you only target ad-hominem attacks made by your nemeses? If you knew anything of what you speak, you`d know that your type of inconsistency is not welcome here either - any more than your makeup artist.
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@hypno1
It also appears that you don`t know what a troll is and you also have no idea of the symptoms of an inferiority complex are.
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Male 109
I worked with the Bahrain in Afghanistan and I hope none of them good men I worked with there were on that street.
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Male 3,631
DickheadMcHunt:

"Backwards Philosophies:" Shariah Law

Do we really need to elaborate?

"Extremist religious stance:" The Koran is extreme enough just on its own two feet - nevermind any `fanatical` applications. Read it sometime. Aside from that (or perhaps as extension from it), rampant and flagrant violations of Human rights, including and especially those on the part of women and homosexuals - two groups whom I`m sure your bleeding heart raps in its sinewy embrace most tenderly.

"Theocratic Nonsense:" Theocracy is nonsense.

"Overall Caveman Mentality:" Where`s Osama sleeping tonight?

Wisdom:

"...the Government gives the people money. If that is true then it is a no wonder that life can be treated so cavalier. "

ala Gerald Ford:

"A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take away everything you have."
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@hypno1
The speed at which you fell to personal attacks against notorious just shows how appauling you are at arguing over any point. Please never attempt to enter a debate that requires a vague ammount of intellect becuase your kind is not welcome here.
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Male 1,268
Bahrain`s gnp per capita nearly exceeds that of Canada`s, notorious. Third world indeed.

The UAE leaders are just as backwards as Iran`s. There are plenty of UN/US service members and vacationing western europeans who can share that knowledge first hand with you.
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@notorious

You are a troll. It`s obvious you have a inferiority complex when it comes to the US. The US sets up half the puppet governments around the world? State your sources. And don`t quote your high school buddy`s dope smoking liberal dad because he read it on some left wing-blog.

And before you get your tie-dyed panties in a wad, I actually have respect for Canada. They`ve stepped up and done what`s right when it needed it to be done. But you ragging on all these other countries about their "Kings" is pretty funny coming from someone who lives under a constitutional monarchy with the Queen of England at it`s head.
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Female 2,761
My God... nightmares tonight
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Male 27
I`m all for peaceful protests, but, as Thomas Jefferson once said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." This, in my opinion, is one of those times.

Give each one of the protesters a weapon and they`d have their government expelled in a week, possibly with a lower level of bloodshed than without weapons. If a majority rises against a minority of equal strength but smaller numbers, if the minority knows what`s good for them, they`ll back down without putting up too much of a fight for fear of being absolutely annihilated by a pissed off majority.
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Male 72
@TAMYCRON

They dont have guns to fight back with, and look at these guys. 2 lying wounded, one dead in the street and at least 4 others KEPT MARCHING

Thats bordering stupidity, but its also bravery. What does it say about how much they believe in their cause and how bad the government is when they keep marching open arms after the people around them got shot?

In the US the street would be empty after a single shot in the air
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Male 1,116
Sh*t`s gettin` real.
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Male 4,004
You can kill the people, you can kill individuals, but an idea is forever. An idea had power much stronger than killing ever could. What these people were protesting is still alive, and possibly even stronger now.

V for Vendetta is most definitely my favorite message in any movie. And all I could see in this video was the scene where all of London is wearing the masks, then a police guy shoots a little girl and then the mob goes wild on him.

Nothing sickens me than a government abusing it`s power over it`s people. One thing is right in this video: The government is definitely afraid of its people, and not the other way around.
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Male 787
Just sent this to my history professor..I wonder if that`s the right thing to do?
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Male 1,590
So, is the Formula 1 race still on for March 13th?
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@Oldfrt

In fairness he never stated that the U.S. installed any government in Bahrain- his statement that the U.S. has colluded to or directly helped initiate/install new governments in countries across the world is far from inaccurate.

George Washington warned, in his farewell address, about the dangers of trying to influence foreign matters- for years America has disregarded this advice. It is time to lead by example again.

We DID have a hand in installing Mubarak, as well as many other global dictators and governments- most recently in Iraq and Afghanistan. Implying otherwise, as you appears to do, is foolish and would reveal your ignorance of history.


@Notorious- America gets more Oil from Canada than virtually all of Arabia combined. While it may have helped individuals achieve power, it would be ridiculous to assume we could somehow magically achieve or maintain total control anyone, let alone any government.
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Female 695
What better way to control your citizens than to gun them down in the streets for having taken no action other than to stand up for themselves.
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Male 787
Holy poo this is happening in modern day times?! This is the kind of drated up stuff you read about in textbooks. I couldn`t even watch it...
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Female 269
Rounds fired at 3:45 and 4:45. Do the people who ordered the soldiers to do this really think they`re doing anything but making enemies and martyrs?
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Male 174
This is how you piss already pissed off people more. This is the kind of stuff that turns peaceful protests into violent ones.
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Male 136
holy drat.

I fully support these people in their protests, and their bravery is VERY admirable, but the way their governments are dealing with this is just disgusting.
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@Splurbyburbl

Your words are possibly the more moronic, drivel I have ever read. I regret my naive assumption that wisdom can be extrapolated from virtually every persons words- you have proven that this is clearly not the case, which I suppose in someway is wisdom in its own way.
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Male 93
Some poor guy got hit with an anti aircraft missile in the head. Needless to say he died.
Also, in Libya, Gadaffi ordered snipers to take out protestors. Not cool.
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Male 626
And since there is dead people, shouldn`t this be on like /b/?
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Male 626
It looks like it would be nice there when all hell isn`t breaking loose.
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Male 1,383
Luckily Bahrain has backed off pretty much now, being half-Bahraini I have been very concerned about my family but luckily the killings have stopped. It`s much worse in Libya though, I mean machine guns, c`mon?! That`s about as bad as the Aiport Level on Call of Duty...
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Male 678
Maybe Armageddon will come on the 21st of May. not in the form of a manifested terror but maybe that`s when whatever is watching over us just gives up and say [email protected] ya!! i know i would after taking a look at our history.
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Male 3,060
BOOM! Headshot!
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Male 4,242
support the troops
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Male 146
Silly Arabs and their dictatorships.
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@spoon024
so... because you ignored the title, NSFW warnings, and comments, that means that THEY should suppress important news just because it`s graphic? Youtube is the only outlet some of these people have to tell the world what is happening to them.

People like you should not be allowed to breed.
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@spoon024

See the part in the title where it says they kill people? That would be a hint that they kill people.

Not that the video actually shows anyone die. You hear gunfire, then it cuts back to some wounded people laying in the street.
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Male 2,033
Huh, I was in Bahrain last year and it seemed like a nice enough place. The people seemed like, well, normal folks just going about their daily stuff.

I guess this kind of surprises me.

Of course, I have no idea what the people in the video were marching for, what happened previous to the shooting or anything else about the history of this `peaceful protest`
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Female 15
Well...just one more IAB post that has caused me mental trauma. I don`t think you should be able to post videos of peoples deaths on youtube :/
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Male 244
those are some brave people
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Male 174
Wow
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Male 341
Im in no way saying this is right. But what did they expect? Especially with Bahrain`s army.
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Male 10,338
The US didn`t set up Bahrain`s government. They are relatives of the King of Saudi Arabia.

The only reason we are nice with Saudi Arabia, and Bahrain, is because of Oil. They hate us, but they want to make money just like anyone else, so they deal with us.
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@Oldfrt

The US government supports these governments behind the scenes to keep their own prices down like oil costs. Its better to have a brutal government in charge for them, so if they ever need to send some military down there then they just have to deal with the government and not worry about the actual country

And Im not really a huge fan of Che. I think the original cuban revolution was good, but I also know che was responsible for massaccres. I just needed an image for my avatar
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Male 953
I`ll go with troll... because only a idiot walks screaming headlong toward a guy holding a F`n Machine Gun.... Is what I am saying. :P
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Male 4,680
@notorious_- You have a very appropriate avatar.
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Male 749
@notorius: "THE US IS THE ONE HELPING SET UP HALF OF THESE PUPPET GOVERNMENTS IN THE 3RD WORLD"

Seeing that you seem to be a fan of Che, I`ll be understanding of your ignorance of history. In the case of Bahrain, the U.S. had nothing to do with it. In general, there is a big difference between "setting up" and dealing with. Sometimes you have to deal with the lesser of two evils.
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Male 2,150
Bahrain`s army and police are foreign mercenaries (Pakistani, Jordanian, Syrian) who have no vested interest in nationalism and no tribal ties, unlike Egypt where the army serves the people. The army in Bahrain are hired thugs.
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Male 10,338
This is why gas prices are going up.

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Female 1,682
Words can`t express how disgusted I am with what I just saw. What the f*ck is wrong with people.
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Male 10,440
[quote] Whining about lack of "social justice" in the USA really seems quite petty compared to what`s going on elsewhere. [/quote]

Depends on the perspective. I`m usually one to bash the US on every small thing it`s terrible at but it`s clear that the US is still a better place to live than Bahrain or that sh*thole Egypt.

It`s also not petty to bash the US despite what`s going on elsewhere. Bahrain has a thimble-full of influence in world affairs whereas the US is *still* running the show in many things.

Don`t think that you`re beyond criticism just because you`re better off than a monarchy.
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Male 15,510
W...T...F O_O
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Male 12,365
[quote]The world needs to know whats going on in the middle-east[/quote]

Yes, because it`s going to blight us as well as them.

As a general rule, when violent revolution leaves a power vacuum it is filled by those who want power most and are most willing to take it by whatever means necessary. In the middle east nowadays, that means extremist Muslim fundamentalists. Whose first targets after (and during) taking power will be within their own country.
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@splurbyburbl

Shutup you american sheep, you have no idea of how things work in the world so keeps swallowing your governments propeganda. The middle east has a caveman mentality?

You obviously do, you`re too simple minded to understand the complexity of the situation created by developed countries
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@notorious
[quote] The monarchy of ANY country isnt appointed by god.[/quote]
Then how is it appointed? How does one justify ruling over everyone else? What gives him the right if not god? It doesn`t look like you know what a monarchy is.

Also...
Bahrain is not 3rd world.
The US is not establishing monarchies, if anything it`s establishing shaky, rudimentary democracies.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Civilians cant fight the army with peace

Ghandi did.[/quote]

Peaceful revolt only works if you have a massive numerical superiority and the people you`re revolting against won`t immediately reply with crushing force.

For example, if the Axis powers had won WW2 then Gandhi wouldn`t even be a footnote in the history books. He`d just be one of the corpses in mass graves where the Nazis killed all the protestors.
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Male 683
@3:44 poo goes down
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Male 267
Now I feel ashamed that I submitted another dong-shaped weather map.
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Male 1,547
@Angillion
I don`t know how many Libyans would be flying a Bahrain flag.
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Male 2,796
I was in Bahrain in 2002, seemed like a harmless country. I was told back then that, like in Kuwait, the Government gives the people money. If that is true then it is a no wonder that life can be treated so cavalier.

At any rate, I think it is great to see the Arab world implode like this. It is indicative of their backwards philosophies, extremist religious stance, theocratic nonsense and overall caveman mentality.
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Male 12,365
I`ve been reading conflicting reports from people who actually live in Bahrain. Many are saying:

i) Apart from a few bad areas, life is going on as normal.

ii) Bahrain is much freer than most of the countries in that area and democratic reform was already ongoing.

iii) The revolt is not organised, started or in any way controlled by pro-democracy campaigners. It`s entirely controlled by religious extremists who want to seize power and are using "freedom" as a tool for manipulating foreign media coverage, creating a revolution and seizing power.

So...is this video actually filmed in Bahrain and not Libya?
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Male 592
``People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.``
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Male 72
@Gerry1of1

That came to mind. Being Indian, It had to :P

You`re right, that protest did get the British to leave. But what most of the world doesnt see was the freedom fighters like Bhagat Singh etc who sabatoged the army and generals through assasination and violence. Ghandi`s revolution played a huge part, but it wouldn`t have worked without help from the unsung "violent" heroes

Also, thousands were massacred during protests during religious gatherings as any gathering had been banned under fear of revolt

On a side note.... I`ve posted like 5 times now. Thats fine right?
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Male 2,384
the world is watching
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Male 39,948
[quote]Civilians cant fight the army with peace [/quote]
Ghandi did.
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Male 72
@LazyMe484

People like you deserve to get shot instead of the protesters. The monarchy of ANY country isnt appointed by god. We dont live in the stone-age, despite how you may want to believe the middle east does. Just like everyone figured out in Europe, they know that god hasnt appointed any king.

Silly arabs? Silly white man thinks hes educated by reading wikipedia
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@Oldfrt

"I hope the "America Sucks" crowd is paying attention. Whining about lack of "social justice" in the USA really seems quite petty compared to what`s going on elsewhere."

THE US IS THE ONE HELPING SET UP HALF OF THESE PUPPET GOVERNMENTS IN THE 3RD WORLD

I... honestly, theres no point trying to explain it to some people. They want to live in their own little world, and take a tragedy like this as an excuse to flame their pride that they live like sheep in the US
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Male 10,440
Whoa. That`s new. Glad I don`t live there... silly arabs...

Whenever I hear "Allah ackbar" or whatever it is I immediately dismiss the purpose of whoever is saying it. I think I`m right in this case:

From wiki: [quote] Bahrain is an absolute monarchy headed by the King, Shaikh Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa[/quote] A king huh? As in, an absolute ruler appointed by god... Allah in this case?... and they are protesting what? The establishment it seems, which is what? The monarchy, which is appointed by Allah, and yet they chant "god is great". Give me a break.

I have no sympathy for your cause because I have either misunderstood it or it makes no sense.

Why not "we want a proper democracy"? Or is that going to far from your ineffective values/traditions?
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Male 72
Thats when peaceful protest falls apart. The egyptian protests succeded because the military was on their side. Civilians cant fight the army with peace, and as much as a peaceful protest being succesful would be great, times have come that the civilians need to pick up their weapons and fight instead of losing lives marching into bullets

Keep this link up IAB, please

The world needs to know whats going on in the middle-east

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Male 749
I hope the "America Sucks" crowd is paying attention. Whining about lack of "social justice" in the USA really seems quite petty compared to what`s going on elsewhere.
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Male 1,547
@Duffytoler
He is only a Prime Minister by name, Bahrain is a monarchy.
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Male 39,948
I bet Fox News will report
"Rioters storm Peace Keeping Forces!"



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Male 3,477
"Taxation without representation!" Or some BS like that that the commoners can get behind to put into power another bunch of thieves.
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Male 5,194
Bahrain`s PM: Prince Khalifa is the longest-serving unelected prime minister in the world.
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Male 25,416
This was very full on.
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Male 6,737
poo is dratED up.
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Male 3,477
Too long, too long...
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Male 1,587
donthaveone- you really are an idiot or a troll. They would have all been slaughtered.
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Male 1,587
I think I`m dyslexic lol, for some reason I read the title as "Britain`s Army..."

And as tragic as this is, it is expected. They saw what happened in Egypt, and can down hard and fast here. When France revolted, Britain came down HARD on any suspected gathering of "dissidents". I`m sure there are tons of other examples, I`m just to sick and tired to look them up.
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Male 1,547
Would you believe that Libya has it worse? They have mercenary death squads hunting down people in the streets. It`s really disturbing how relative the violence is depending on the country.
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Male 953
Apparently they never heard the old saying... don`t bring a flag to a gun fight. Least it`s something along those lines. :)
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Male 4,014
The revolution will be televised.

History in the making all over the middle east. Remarkable.
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Male 110
A bit full on isn`t it fancylad?
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Male 20,917
Link: Bahrain`s Army Deliberately Kills Peaceful Protest [Rate Link] - Bahrain`s army deliberately kills peaceful protesters with live rounds. Totally NSFW.
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