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  1. Profile photo of goog!
    goog! Male 13-17
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:06 am
    Link: America, This Is Why Your Kids Are Dumb #2 - The 2011 United States budget looks a little off, no?
  2. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:12 am
    Gotta keep the masses stupid so they vote republican.
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    Maxables Male 70 & Over
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:13 am
    Agreed. Though I`m not sure how I feel about cutting military spending.
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    cousinrayray Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:17 am
    can`t help but notice adding nasa and the epa to education would be an extra 50%...
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    whosliam Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:18 am
    wow
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    kribbe Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:18 am
    what does hhs stand for, i try google it but i end up at handelshögskolan (a swedish university).

    an education system cant be judged by the budget, but the fact that you spend more money on a military that ruins life for many people in foreign countries, is f*cked up
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    samenamegame Female 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:19 am
    why isn`t more money going into renewable energy and education? politics are drating stupid.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:20 am
    dumb people make better consumers
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    deadbass72 Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:21 am
    @madest
    It`s cute how you think that the parties are different... at all. They are just illusions.
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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:22 am
    @kribbe
    hhs stands for United States Department of "Health and Human Services"
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    rbt_food Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:22 am
    more funding for NASA!
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    deadbass72 Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:24 am
    and more money doesn`t always = smarter kids. good teachers, and resources makes smarter kids.
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    BRKNVLTR Male 40-49
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:29 am
    Yes, defense is the problem. Because preventing enemies of the state to possibly kill those dumb ass kids is better.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:31 am
    No mention of "intrest on the debt"? Totally bogus chart is bogus!
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    GuardinGnome Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:33 am
    Huh, It`s just a f*cking graph that someone could have pulled out of their ass..........
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    bklynusa Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:33 am
    screw NASA!!
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    magicmcrgd Female 13-17
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:34 am
    english get much more on gaming than education...especially my boyf
  18. Profile photo of shalantas
    shalantas Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:34 am
    whats the overall budget? Because there could still be8 or 9 figures for schools. defense costs a lot. schools don`t.
  19. Profile photo of comuser59
    comuser59 Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:34 am
    Here`s a better way to look at it:
    NY Times Budget Overview
    It shows what is growing or shrinking, and by how much. Slightly more informative than your standard pie graph.
  20. Profile photo of Oldfrt
    Oldfrt Male 50-59
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:36 am
    Defense is rightfully a function of the federal government. Education should stay the responsibility of state and local government. There is no mandate in the Constitution for federal funding of education. It worries me that `Mericans aren`t smart enough to understand their own Constitution well enough to realize this.
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    shadowarrior Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:37 am
    The graph has no key. This can be highly misleading. Though I still say wtf, too much funding for defense.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:37 am
    For comparison, here is the UK`s.
  23. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:38 am
    Nope. The fed`s should be spending NOTHING on education. Leave it up to the states.
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    FromPortugal Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:43 am
    kids not dumb...kids didnt learn yet...

    PARENTS ARE DUMB, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO FAIL TEACHING KIDS
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    AirborneJT Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:46 am
    I can`t trust a pie graph that has absolutely no references.
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    Hemtroll Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:54 am
    Well to be fair, when was the last time America was invaded? They`re clearly defending it pretty good!
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    soupkid Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:56 am
    "Well to be fair, when was the last time America was invaded?"

    Ten years ago this September.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 11:00 am
    "Ten years ago this September."

    Thank god our massive military came to the rescue. Oh, wait.
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    green_batman Female 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 11:02 am
    It`s sad how small NASA is on that graph. I mean, I`m all in favor of a much smaller federal government, but if it`s going to spend boatloads of money, it might as well spend a decent portion of it on science, which improves the quality of life.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 11:22 am
    "Ten years ago this September."

    Seconded.
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    bowlinguy Male 13-17
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    February 18, 2011 at 11:22 am
    "Ten years ago this september"

    that wasn`t an invasion...
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    February 18, 2011 at 11:37 am
    If we were any smarter you would all be dead.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 11:48 am
    meh...
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    EricWRN Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 11:50 am
    the government is SUPPOSED to be responsible for the military and NOT education! We`d probably be better off if that wedge was even smaller!
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    Bubbarider66 Male 70 & Over
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    February 18, 2011 at 11:55 am
    In the first place, states are responsible for educating their citizens, not the Federal Government, although they kick in a small percentage, with a lot (and I mean a lot) of conditions. Most states need all the money they can get, so they do what the Feds want to get it. What we really need, and what most other industrialized countries have, is National Standards, so that a child in the poorest district in Alabama has the same access and opportunity, and receives the same level of education as a child in the richest district of Massachusetts, something that currently doesn`t happen.
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    HtF Female 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 11:59 am
    There, I fixed it for you.
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    boNeymiZz Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 12:03 pm
    @duffytoler

    Mr. Toler.....what you`ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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    elderban99 Male 40-49
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    February 18, 2011 at 12:07 pm
    And no one seems to notice that HHS (which includes social security, welfare, unemployment and other similar programs) is bigger than defense and education combined.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    Get rid of half of HHS, Education, Labor, Energy, & EPA. The we will talk America. Until then you are doing it wrong.
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    shaboinkin Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    @elderban99

    Agreed to extent.
    We (the US) are a combination of socialism in case you haven`t noticed. I feel that they should cut back on a lot of stuff, but at the same time, that is stuff that the government has long promised for quite a few years.
  41. Profile photo of Volsunga
    Volsunga Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 12:15 pm
    Misleading graph since most of the American education system is funded on the state level. Federal education funding works like this: Congress passes a bill to make some national regulation on education (like "No Child Left Behind" for example), since education is delegated to the states, the way that regulation is enforced is by offering federal money to states that comply (it`s technically optional).

    Defense isn`t the problem, HHS is (looks like this might be an ancient graph because Social Security and Medicare are apparently still under it). Some parts of defense need to be cut, true, but the real burden on taxpayers is the entitlement programs. If all of America had a good enough education, we wouldn`t need those programs because people would be able to afford private alternatives. The problem is, now that they`re there, there are people who depend on them and you can`t just take that away without causing more problems.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    February 18, 2011 at 12:17 pm
    In the first place, states are responsible for educating their citizens, not the Federal Government
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    What country do you live in? I live in the USA. A country with national stardardized testing where no child is supposed to be left behind. Where inbred god fearing hillbillies from the south are not allowed to change the curricullum to reflect their "beliefs". These are the things that most Americans should be grateful for.
  43. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 12:21 pm
    I dare say this drastically misses AND oversimplifies the issue.
  44. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 12:21 pm
    "no child is supposed to be left behind."

    One of the biggest mistakes we ever made.

    Do we educate our kids, or do we dumb down the curriculum so everyone can pass? Hmmmmmmm.
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    HHS . Looks like the place to be.
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    February 18, 2011 at 12:25 pm
    More money and government intrusion does not equal better education. The reason they are so dumb is because they are not taught to think things out and work things through. Why teach why something works when you can just show them on a computer.
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    MCMXCIII Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 12:28 pm
    Woa woa what, get rid of HHS? Hold on a minute. Yes you`ll do alright if the economy is doing fine, but in troubled times (which are guaranteed to happen, because it`s economic) you`ll be thankful that you have those programs. Only the filthily rich need not to worry about financial crises (during the peak of the recent crisis, most billionaires on Fortune 400 list had their fortune increased), but then again they are like what? 1% of the population. It`s national security and it`s much needed.
  48. Profile photo of SvampeBob
    SvampeBob Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 12:33 pm
    @elderban99, shaboinkin and HtF are you guys saying that sosialism is negative???
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    hatface Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 12:51 pm
    I laughed so much at that. epic caption
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    shalantas Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    "ten years ago this September"

    That was because someone took over a plane. A bomb or a knife may be easy to take, but they don;t have intention detectors. Sure we got Intel stating that something was about to go down, but there is only so much you can do.
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    redser99 Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 1:03 pm
    Nah, I don`t believe that for a moment that this is the reason...there are many reasons and #1 is that education is a for-profit industry in the USA unlike the leading countries of the world in education. #2 is Unions.
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    Volsunga Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 1:05 pm
    @MCMXCIII
    It wasn`t just the billionaires, it was everyone who understood the market. Think now if the general populace was educated enough to do the same, the "financial crisis" would not be such a crisis.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 1:17 pm
    We all could have guessed that without the need of a pie chart, just get online and youll see
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    February 18, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    Yep thoroughly agree.
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    urbanlegend Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 1:37 pm
    Also misleading because these don`t show numbers. Sure, it looks like a small piece of the pie, but we spend more on education than other nations. Numbers show a lot. For example, the US GDP is MUCH higher than Kuwait`s, but Per Capita they`re just about they`re not that far apart.
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    HtF Female 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 1:37 pm
    @SvampeBob - Yes. I am saying socialism has a negative impact on society.
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    gingerlad95 Male 13-17
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    February 18, 2011 at 1:59 pm
    i think we spend too much on hhs and epa. lets just cut from them and put the money from that into the education budget
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    Seaker Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 2:01 pm
    That is very misleading, as the majority of school`s budget come from STATE funds, not federal.
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    Buck176 Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 2:06 pm
    @Madest You mean gotta keep the masses stupid so they will have to rely on HHS so they will keep voting Democrat and the Dem`s can make us a totally socialist country.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 2:16 pm
    Ginger are you freaking crazy?

    Education is not the Government`s responsibility. Health & Human services isn`t either, but Definitely not education.
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    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 2:22 pm
    um....so what?

    Education is mosty funded by states, defense is all funded nationally.
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    MrHyde Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 2:25 pm
    Lol @ political arguments.

    Here`s how it goes:

    The Democrats and the Conservatives are both too conservative.

    The solution:
    Canada.
  63. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 2:27 pm
    Health & Human services isn`t either

    Well hold on now, isn`t the government supposed to "promote the general welfare"?
  64. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 2:27 pm
    The Democrats and the Conservatives are both too conservative.

    Is that your summary or assertion?
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 2:52 pm
    I`m with MrHyde on this one..
  66. Profile photo of handys003
    handys003 Male 50-59
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    February 18, 2011 at 3:11 pm
    @LandoGriffin

    No basically education is not funded by the states. It comes from federal tax revenue and distributed to the states who in turn distribute among their districts. Over half the income that states get is from the feds.
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    Byfield Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 3:23 pm
    Wait, whats wrong with this?
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 3:27 pm
    and republicans blame democratic "socialism" eh?
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    Tiredofnicks Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 3:30 pm
    MrHyde: +1.
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    The_Texican Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 3:40 pm
    Spending on defense is something people will continually whine about until the one time we don`t spend enough. I for one would always rather error on the side of caution. Teachers are constantly wanting more pay and benefits; here`s a fun fact: if you got a job during the summer neither would be an issue.
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    ryan99 Male 13-17
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    February 18, 2011 at 3:45 pm
    HHS?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 18, 2011 at 3:45 pm
    @comuser59 "Obama`s proposed budget" is bullsh*t! Dear ghod you actually believe it?
    @HtF Thank you!
    that wasn`t an invasion...
    It was an act of war, same difference, eh?
    I dare say this drastically misses AND oversimplifies the issue.
    I totally agree @Cajun! Since it leaves out debt payments, which (iirc) are larger than what is spent on the military ATM...
  73. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 18, 2011 at 3:45 pm
    Schools and universities are funded by the states and counties. NOT the federal budget.

    The Education Section of the federal budget goes
    for things like a few grants, equal access to
    schools funding school nutrition programs
    {ie feeding poor kids} etc.
  74. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 3:52 pm
    @ryan99

    Health and Human Services
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
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    February 18, 2011 at 4:00 pm
    HHS- Dept. of Health and Human Services
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
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    February 18, 2011 at 4:01 pm
    This must be Cali.
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
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    February 18, 2011 at 4:01 pm
    HHS- Dept. of Health and Human Services
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    Wtfidklol Male 13-17
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    February 18, 2011 at 4:15 pm
    You guys, we can`t focus on our children`s education.

    NOT WHEN BROWN PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANET WANT TO KILL US!
    D=
  79. Profile photo of Durrell
    Durrell Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 4:38 pm
    divide that defense budget in 3 equal parts.

    keep one for defense, add one to education, and add one to NASA, and you are set with a good budget :)
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    number43 Male 70 & Over
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    February 18, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    if you believe this graph then THAT is why you`re dumb. HHS is the largest chunk, not defense. And of course the defense budget is big, think of all the people in the army alone, who do you think pays those people? It`s not like their living well either, a lot of enlisted families are on wellfare. So, yes it`s a big portion of the budget, but it also employs millions of people.
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    XaviMagi Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 4:51 pm
    You might not realize that defense spending is a US obligation to allies such as Japan, S. Korea and NATO countries who are either too small to have militaries or for other diplomatic reasons. I`d blame the culture for education failures considering education spending has been increasing ever since education performance has been decreasing.
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    notorious_ Male 13-17
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    February 18, 2011 at 5:09 pm
    @Wtfidklol

    Those brown people want to kill you for a reason
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    TheDisavowed Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 5:15 pm
    If they would abolish the Departments of HHS, Labor, Commerce, Social Security, Education, and demand that each state take it upon themselves to protect and educate their citizens (instead of everyone waiting for the liberals in Big Government to just hand them things they haven`t earned) this country would begin to move in the right direction.
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    nuklehed77 Female 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 5:42 pm
    Speaking of dumb: if you actually believe the entire (or even good portion of the) defense budget makes it into military operations / personnel costs, you`re kind of an idiot.
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    fivezones Male 40-49
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    February 18, 2011 at 5:44 pm
    So HHS is the problem?
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    TheShgn2 Male 13-17
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    February 18, 2011 at 5:47 pm
    I would rather be stupid than dead..
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    mcfudge Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 6:00 pm
    Building tanks and assembling the strongest, most technologically advanced military in the world requires a little more money than teaching kids. Besides, does this include military education? What about the millions and millions worth of donations going to colleges every year?

    /trolled.
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    fuad119 Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 6:09 pm
    Come on this post is ridiculous... defense budget is top priority in every country....
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    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 6:11 pm
    Disavowed, that is the single most dumbest thing i`ve ever heard.
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    deathbringer Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 7:01 pm
    "I would rather be stupid than dead.."
    Thats what HHS is for.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 7:07 pm
    The fallacy is that education is poor due to low spending.

    US educational spending is often ridiculously high (US$25,000 a year??? Insane). Some of the most expensive public education is also some of the worst. The problem is union power (schools run to employ teachers, not to teach children), poor teaching practices advanced by ignorant socialist education "experts" and lack of individual freedom. Where voucher schemes or similar are in place education improves even in the ordinary public schools, as they have competition for pupils and the resources that follow the pupils.
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    godthaab Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 7:22 pm
    What`s HHS?
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    comuser59 Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 7:43 pm
    @5Cats
    Do I believe it? Hell no, I just thought it gave a better view of how that chunk of spending is actually broken up.
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    vegascartman Male 30-39
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    February 18, 2011 at 7:45 pm
    Without a strong defensive budget all the other issues are completely irrelevant. The point in this graph is really quite stupid. I suppose the author is a public school graduate though so that would explain it.
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    botfly Male 50-59
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    February 18, 2011 at 7:56 pm
    @ randomxnp....coming from Europe, I am indeed impressed! I applaud you.
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    handimanner Male 60-69
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    February 18, 2011 at 8:03 pm
    Defense is so bloated with pork cuz it`s chockablock full of redundant systems. We`re at war (2 locations) and each branch (marines, navy, air force, army) demands their own weapons designs. Add to that contracting out field and security services to no-bid processes. Stop the wars, stop the insanity of belief that we can impose will on other countries by force.
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    IkeRay Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 8:15 pm
    this graph would be better translated to:
    "This is why you`re fat america"
    and point out agriculture has a higher budget than education; protip: we don`t need that much wheat and corn (ie carbohydrates) in such a sedentary country (everyone has a deskjob)

    split agriculture into this:
    1 to agriculture, 2 to NASA, 1 to education
  98. Profile photo of DFWBrysco
    DFWBrysco Male 40-49
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    February 18, 2011 at 8:31 pm
    "What`s HHS?"

    @godthaab - I would assume it is the Department of Health and Human Services... HHS oversees things like Social Security, Medicare, Welfare, Disability, Child Protective Services, etc. etc. etc.
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 8:48 pm
    @IkeRay
    So cut funding to actual farms and increase the dependence on fast food? Ya, that will make people thinner.
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:29 pm
    Yeah that`s a big problem. There`s too much money going to education. Schools should be treated more like a business. If schools aren`t doing their jobs properly, the students may transfer out. This will encourage teachers to be more on their toes, or they`ll be out of a job; like any job where you don`t do your job properly.
    /rant
  101. Profile photo of Keegan31
    Keegan31 Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 10:53 pm
    Yeah that`s a big problem. There`s too much money going to defense. The Military should be treated more like a business. If the Military isn`t doing their jobs efficiently, the shouldn`t be rewarded with more money to squander. This will encourage the Military to spend their money with more wisdom and prudence, or they`ll lack funding; like any job where you don`t do your job properly.
    /rant
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    IkeRay Male 18-29
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    February 18, 2011 at 11:16 pm
    @IisBored

    no, the problem is the government tells everyone to eat lots of grain because they`re pouring out money to the farmers. the fast food industry would suffer just as much from the lack of wheat and corn.



    35% to corn for production of ethanol, feed, and sadly HFCS; and wheat should not be the 3rd highest, just behind cotton...notice fruits/veggies don`t get any (little) subsidies
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    IkeRay Male 18-29
    2704 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 11:26 pm
    just realized that graph doesn`t show current percents....

    current percents:
    Corn 35%
    Cotton 17%
    Wheat 14%
    rice <14% (don`t feel like looking it up again)
    soybean <14% (don`t feel like looking it up again)
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
    3564 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 11:35 pm
    Well, to be fair, having the best goddamn educated people in the world doesn`t mean poo if you don`t have a military to defend it.
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4006 posts
    February 18, 2011 at 11:46 pm
    Bitchin` about education. The entire concept of sending kids to school is a weird brainwash. There is a way to teach, but sending kids to school for 12 years and have them do 10% learning, 40% absolutely useless projects and 50% nothing (WASTE OF TIME) is not the best way to educate ANYBODY. Everybody learns differently...okay. I grasped additions and subtractions in grade 1. Grade 3, multiplications and divisions. Grade 8 begun algebra, which went through to grade 12 (all math derives somehow from algebra after grade 8). Somehow I believe that I could have learned all this stuff much faster had it been taught without the requirement for bullcrap in between. Bullcrap like Phys. Ed, Social Studies, History...many many many more. In elementary I didn`t need those classes, they taught nothing useful.

    Teach faster, get these kids smart, then give them 2 years off, send them to college at 15yo, have them working at age 20... It`s possible and actually useful.
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    Wowummwow Male 18-29
    265 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 12:19 am
    "Yeah that`s a big problem. There`s too much money going to education. Schools should be treated more like a business. If schools aren`t doing their jobs properly, the students may transfer out. This will encourage teachers to be more on their toes, or they`ll be out of a job; like any job where you don`t do your job properly.
    /rant"

    Ok, give me 5 classes of algebra students who are not learning English for the first time nor are they dealing on the street-corner after school and we have a deal. Also, for the record nothing keeps you "on your toes" like random kids pulling knives in the classroom (guns are too expensive for many of these kids).
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    Kiwigirl2 Female 30-39
    1048 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 1:19 am
    Goodness - what a mixed up world we live in!
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    neosophist Male 18-29
    138 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 6:37 am
    Eh. Everyones reading the chart wrong, its really a big zero. And the defense budget is worth more of nothing than education.
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    taylor_stone Male 30-39
    2688 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 7:25 am
    @neosophist

    You, sir, win the whole damn Internet.....


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    JediGoalie30 Male 30-39
    4 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 7:31 am
    Education is a state and local matter, to be funded by state and local budgets. Providing for the common defense, on the other hand, is in fact one of the primary roles of the federal government, as stated in the Constitution.
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    2L82Pray Female 30-39
    70 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 7:55 am
    What/Who is the source of this graph?

    Every power not Specifically granted to the Federal government is the domain of the individual state--including Education. By offering funding for education based on performance (No Child Left Behind) or withholding federal funds for lack of performance, the Fed is outside the Constitution and should be prosecuted for breach of Constitutional Law.

    Cause we all know THAT`ll Happen when no one cares to read the Constitution or learn what it says...they just take the word of total strangers who post pie graphs to push their own agenda using statistics that could have come from anywhere. But then, that`s why America is so dumb...
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
    685 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 8:02 am
    @jedigoalie-I do not think you understand the correlation between technology and education. The money we spend on defense is mostly for super sophisticated hardware created by, you guessed it, highly educated people. Also, ignorance has caused the current economic catastrophe, and should be considered the enemy within...in a sense education is defense! But technically i do concede that you are indeed correct sir:)
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    dave32891 Male 18-29
    542 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 10:43 am
    more like thats why no one attacks us.
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    popsiclemyk Male 13-17
    531 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 1:48 pm
    nice
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4006 posts
    February 19, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    "more like thats why no one attacks us."

    Remember 9/11? Just a little example off the top o my head.
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    phoneybone Male 18-29
    1744 posts
    February 20, 2011 at 2:28 am
    see, why don`t you people understand that there`s PEOPLE in the military not just tanks, planes, and machines in the military. A large (dunno how much, but a fair chunk) of that Defense budget is these poeple`s WAGES!!!!! not just more money for aircraft...although that too is budgeted. People think large defense budget just means more war, no!!! it means the young folks (I used to be one) working hard every day in our military get`s a PAY RAISE!!!! And who doesn`t like a pay raise? And before you bitch and yell, we`re not talking a biggie, we`re talking the lowest of the low (E-1, enlisted rank 1, i.e. Private) go from $1350/month to $1400/month. SO SHUT THE FCUK UP YOU STUPID FAGGOT LIBERALS WHO DON`T RESEARCH WHERE THE MONEY GOES!!!!
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    betardfooser Male 30-39
    558 posts
    February 20, 2011 at 5:47 am
    @Batmanners: You think we were attacked by an outside entity, you`re so cute....
    @phoneybone: I don`t care where it goes, it`s a piss-away either way. DISMANTLE THE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    February 20, 2011 at 7:28 am
    Betardfooser... You`re an idiot. Yea, lets dismantle our military. I wonder what would happen if the world caught wind that we were doing away with our military hmmm.... Yea you`re probably right.. Nothing. <<Sarcasm
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    February 20, 2011 at 7:34 am
    Public schools need help anyway. I went through my entire high school career just worrying about the party on Friday, what to do after school, and my job. Got kicked out of the house at 17 so I dropped out of high school to work full time then a few years later went back to discover I only had 2 credits remaining and they agreed to just give me a test to obtain my diploma. Glad I didn`t piss away an entire senior year when all it took was a test.

    The military just crammed the French language into my head in 4 months and I can speak it fluently now... I have friends who took 4 years of it in high school and they can`t speak nearly as well as I can.
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    TIMESWORDSMN Male 13-17
    304 posts
    February 20, 2011 at 11:43 pm
    Reducing Defense to a Quarter of the budget, While only giving a little bit more room, Would be a significant boon to Education, Energy and Commerce, Three of America`s biggest current deficits.
    Then again, I don`t pretend to think it`s that simple, Removing money from defense would put a number of people out of work, and leave the country under-defended in a precarious political time. With all of our troops and utilities spread across the world, we are somewhat naked in our own domain.
    Back to the the first hand, if w e increased Education and Commerce, we wouldn`t have nearly so many enemy`s, and creating a steady energy alternative would bring in funds from neighboring and friendly country`s.
    Well, this is certainly a deep hole we`ve dug ourselves into. But, If I know anything about people and time, We`ll find something more pressing to worry about in the next decade or so, and it will all pass quietly into memory.
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    morannon Male 30-39
    6 posts
    February 21, 2011 at 2:42 pm
    Let me see if I`ve got this right. We can`t reduce defense spending because there are people fighting those wars and we don`t want to cut their jobs. Aside from the frightening point that this also means we can`t ever stop fighting because the war sustains our need for the military jobs, it`s still a stupid ass argument.

    You honestly don`t think we might be able to come up with a use for trained military personnel in a non-military fashion? Perhaps instead of blowing poo-tons of money blowing crap up in foreign lands, we can actually start reducing defense spending by re-assigning those personnel to domestic programs re-building our crumbling infrastructure.

    Instead of turning federal dollars into bombs and bullets, how about turning them into roads and bridges?
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    tuapui Male 18-29
    94 posts
    February 22, 2011 at 9:56 am
    the funny thing about calling it defense when you aren`t actually defending anything. Sure, you make up stuff to actually defend, but not after some very aggressive offense. epic USA is epic. maybe after increasing the education budget the next generation might actually start calling it `military operations`

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