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201 Responses to Tides, How Do They Work?

  1. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2011 at 6:24 am
    Link: Tides, How Do They Work? - Bill O`Reilly doesn`t understand tides and that`s proof enough to him that there is a God.
  2. Profile photo of MikeyNiv
    MikeyNiv Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:06 am
    i see a religious argument coming...
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    Toribor Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:11 am
    Lol, magic man does the tides!
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    Gentle-Tramp Male 13-17
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:20 am
    lol bill is so funny xD
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    1gr8slice Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:25 am
    Both of them are lunatics and proved it through the course of this segment.
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    KeePay Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:25 am
    This guy really dropped the ball on this one. If he didn`t go with the "invisible man in the sky" argument or actually BOTHERED to explain how the gravity of the sun and moon influence tides, he would have nailed it. Instead he was sounding about as logical as Bill in his own statements.
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    ggolbez Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:26 am
    Religion is, in fact, a man made creation. Any belief in a deity is based off of faith (the belief in something without evidence). All atheists are saying is that there is just as much evidence for a creator as there is for leprechauns. How is that so hard to understand?
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    Goldfishgal Female 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:27 am
    I cannot stand any type of extremist, be it Muslim, Catholic, Christian, Atheist, etc etc. Nobody gives a poo about what you believe in, so don`t go and blast it out for the world to see just because you have a superiority complex. I have my own personal beliefs and opinions, and so does every other person in this world. Only difference is, I could give two poos if you agree with me and won`t argue with you over something that is obviously not worth arguing over.

    Idiots.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:27 am
    Shhhh Don`t tell Bill that the Moon is God.
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    maniacalg Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:30 am
    Bill O`Reilly is a jacka$$. He`s asking questions but as soon as the guy answers, he interrupts.
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    kummi90 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:31 am
    O`Reilly is the master of all trolls
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:34 am
    Fair and balanced, America! See how they had an atheist on their show? What swell reporting.

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    twenty5 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:37 am
    ... no one knew the god of the seas make tides go in and out???!?! WHAT IS THIS. THIS. IS. MADNESS!!!
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:39 am
    Fact: The tides come in and out because of the gravitational pull of the moon on the water.

    Fact: The moon moves around the Earth at a (nearly) constant rate and direction.

    Fact: This makes the tides predictable and (nearly) constant.

    Fact: Your lack of understanding of this does not automatically mean that there is a God. If you believe that because you don`t understand something that it is proof of a God, you`re wrong.

    Fact: The Bible tells of the formation of the Earth and Moon and gives credit to God.

    Fact: We have a scientific understanding of how the Moon was formed, and how it came to be in orbit around the Earth.

    Fact: Your belief in one of these two stories nothing to dis-prove the one you don`t believe in.
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    LB2739 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:41 am
    I dont understand how this video got here... God must have put it here....
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    tn11 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:43 am
    I actually agree with Bill that it is a "statement of belief, not a statement of fact"

    and I really feel the Atheist dude really dropped the ball by not immediately explaining "tides- how to they work?" to poor dumb Bill
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    Handsompod Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:45 am
    I`d like to see Bill interview Kanye West.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:46 am
    the whole "tides" thing is a silly ridicule of Bill. He was making a point. Typical Lebretard nit-picking.

    That said, if the Chrsties can have billboards saying it IS so, the we can have buildboards saying it AIN`T so.

    `nuff said.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:51 am
    Bill was right for once.

    The tides go in, the tides go out. What causes that? The moon`s gravitational effect. Who created the moon`s gravitational effect?????????
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    DeltaForce Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:54 am
    1st amendment Billo, get over it
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    premierwondr Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:55 am
    I don`t understand women; so God can`t be a man?
  22. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:57 am
    @AJ that`s a silly point of fact. You`re making the same mistake Bill O does. Since you don`t understand it, it must be a diety.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:00 am
    @madest: Oh I understand it just fine, but it has to start somewhere.

    In the end though, this guy has 1st amendment rights the same as everyone else, so let him have it.

    Faith is not a scam though. It helps some people.
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    Goldfishgal Female 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:03 am
    @auburnjunky, Religion and faith are two completely different things. You can have faith and not have religion and vise versa.
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    EntrE Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:04 am
    @auburnjunky
    so what, you wanna hear the entire story of how the moon formed? look it up!
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    Goldfishgal Female 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:05 am
    @auburnjunky, Religion and faith are two completely different things. You can have faith and not have religion and vise versa.
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    muffalletta Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:05 am
    NOT AN INSULT IF ITS TRUE!!!!!!!!! BILL IS A MORON
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:05 am
    i paused it at 2:08 and this guy makes a funny face.
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    Pravda7 Female 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:05 am
    Wow... just wow. Bill... please stop talking.
  30. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:08 am
    "so what, you wanna hear the entire story of how the moon formed? look it up!"

    I know how the moon formed. A planet sized asteroid hit the earth and the debris from that collision got caught in the Earth`s gravitational field, and coalesced.

    What set those events in motion?
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    pnolan Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:08 am
    Bill O`Reilly is an idiot. That is obvious enough. How many statements has O`Reilly made that were clearly insults, but he just tried to pass them off as something else? (Answer: ALL of his statements.)

    I am disappointed with this atheist, too, though. First of all, if you aren`t smart enough to understand science, what is the point of being atheist? Second, OBVIOUSLY religious people DON`T think that religion is a "scam," and what explanation of the universe would you like to convince them of if you don`t even understand basic science?
  32. Profile photo of EntrE
    EntrE Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:08 am
    oh and just because religion allegedly, which i really don`t agree on, but even if it does, then it can still be a scam. some people say that scientology helps people, but almost everybody here will probably agree with me that it causes nothing but harm and that it CLEARLY is a scam. point is, it doesn`t differ from any other religion!!!
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:09 am
    tl;dw - salient part at 1:52.
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    Axejst Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:09 am
    I`d like to hear this guy. It`s a shame that Bill, when confronted with someone he doesn`t agree with, can never SHUT THE F*CK UP FOR 2 SECONDS.
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    Skabashas Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:11 am
    Good golly, listen to how Bill O`Reilly keeps repressing Dave every time he tries to say something that will either disprove his points or make Dave sound rational and sane. He doesn`t even let the guy explain himself. It`s another form of damned censorship.
  36. Profile photo of EntrE
    EntrE Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:13 am
    well auburnjunky, we can go on with this forever. you will always ask "and how did that happen? and how did that happen? and how did that happen?" like a little kid that doesn`t stop asking "why?", and THAT is what you wanna make your point with?
  37. Profile photo of KPres
    KPres Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:14 am
    I don`t accept this at face value. Whatever you think of O`Reilly, he`s not that dumb. He`s also made this same strange comment before on a youtube video. My guess what he`s really saying that science can`t explain the CONSISTENCY of tidal forces, but that isn`t much better. I`d like an explanation from the horses mouth. If he really believes that science can`t explain this stuff, then he`s an f`n idiot, which bothers me because I`m a conservative as well, and don`t want the dolt representing me or my ideas.
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:15 am
    This is a triple winner for ya. You can bash Fox, O`Reilly and religion all in one topic!

    To cool.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:15 am
    @EntrE: Yep lol.
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:21 am
    Both bill O`Reilly and the atheist guy come across as complete idiots in this video, not unlike a lot of the people who will comment here. If someone believes in God, then drating let them believe in God. If someone does not believe in God, then drating let them not believe in God. How hard would that be?
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    Pravda7 Female 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:21 am
    His entire argument: if you don`t understand something it means that God exists... what an idiot.
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    darkgear6 Male 70 & Over
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:22 am
    atheist: no god lol
    christian: PROVE THERES NO GOD (lolwut)
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    bushell4 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:23 am
    THE MOON IDIOTS, ITS THE MOON THAT CONTROLS THE TIDE!!!!! GRAVITY OF THE MOON!!!! gah i hate bill o`reilly
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    lololeela Female 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:26 am
    Has Bill O`Reilly never heard of a couple of things called the MOON and GRAVITY!!! I`m suprised Dave Silverman wasn`t able to give him an answer, although I`m going to guess that he was blind-sided by the question and his mind went momentarily blank.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:27 am
    You people that honestly believe that Bill doesn`t know what causes tides are stupid.

    OFCOURSE he knows! It`s a metaphor!
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:35 am
    Oh the humanity!
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:39 am
    @auburnjunky

    prove it
  48. Profile photo of Wildcats2008
    Wildcats2008 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:57 am
    This is how I see it.

    This guy asserts that it is a FACT that there is no God. To me if you assert something as fact then you have evidence to prove that it is true. In this case it is impossible for him to prove absolutely that there is no God. If he wants to put his faith in whatever he puts his faith into that`s fine but asserting something as fact that is impossible to prove is irresponsible.

    As far as insulting people. Heck yeah he insulted people who attend religious services, just not straight out. If I told you going to a psychic was a scam but you wanted to go because everyone else was, then I`m basically calling you a sheep with no backbone that is too stupid to think for themselves.

    Bottom line, you can`t prove or disprove there is a God. I`ve learned over the years that I can`t trust anything on this planet and if I didn`t have something better to believe in, I might as well die. Also, to me, there would be no reason for anything if this life is
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    sssfdg Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:58 am
    That unbelievable how the hell can both of them not know the gravitational pull of hte moon causes the tides. I mean I learned that in the 3rd grade.
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    DamienLike Male 13-17
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:02 am
    He brought a guy on his show, not because he wanted to talk to him, but because he didn`t understand his goals and ideals.
    DUMB. F*CK.

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    madest Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:04 am
    Whatever you think of O`Reilly, he`s not that dumb.
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    You`re right. He`s just a pinhead.
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    Norsak Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:07 am
    That`s no moon... that`s God!
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:12 am
    @auburnjunky
    No, he clearly said "You can`t explain that. You can`t explain it." when referring to the tide.

    @Wildcats2008
    If he can`t put up those signs then nobody can put up a sign that says we`re going to hell if we don`t attend their services to worship their invisible man. There`s way more of those across the US than their are atheist signs. Please take your double standard and shove it up your ass.
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    bigfatdynamo Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:13 am
    People who use the argument that God can only be understood by that which remains unsolved are ridiculous (especially Christians). If God ordered the cosmos, which He did according to Christian Scripture, then He should be understood through things that can be explained. The Christian God is a God of order, not chaos. Hence, the more we understand about the natural order of the universe the more we should understand the nature of God. But that makes too much friggin` sense for most religious persons to understand.

    I know you`ll all probably hate on me. 1.Because I think science gives us deeper understanding of God (sorry Atheists and Agnostics), and 2.Because I insinuated that most Christians are rather stupid (especially concerning what their own Scripture says).
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    Sheraf Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:13 am
    @scottSerious:

    YOU CAN`T DISPROVE HIS STATMENT!!!



    That`s the usual defence religious people use, don`t they?
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    antagonizer Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:15 am
    Bill O`Reilly is the perfect christian spokesman. Completely oblivious to how the world works, and tries to use that to prove god. Athiests need more morons like him fighting for christianity. lol
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:18 am
    wow, just wow. Americans watch this crappy news channel? I thought the BBC was bad at times, but this just takes the piss. Isn`t news supposed to be informative? How is inviting a guest to your show and then talking over every point they try to make informative?

    This just makes me angry. Not to mention the fact that he`s a drating idiot, `tides go in, tides go out, no one can explain it` - eerrr, yes they can, it`s called the gravitational pull of the moon.
  58. Profile photo of Wildcats2008
    Wildcats2008 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:25 am
    I-IS-BORED: Where in my statement did I say that he can`t put up those signs? No where.

    He has the right to say what he wants just like everyone else. My point is that if you assert something as fact then you have the burden of proof to show evidence in this case he cannot. If your life experiences and logic lead to you a certain view then that is what you believe.

    It goes both ways. Your belief may be a fact to you but outside of that, if you cannot show hard evidence then it cannot be proven as a universal truth.

    In this case, there is no way to prove or disprove there is no God but through my life experience and logic, I believe there is a God and that is a fact *to me*.

    Let me just assert this, believe in God and believe you are saved and you die, but there is no God, what have you gained except being a better person in this life. If you don`t believe in God and die and it turns out there is a God...well I guess you`re in a world of crap.
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    Wildcats2008 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:26 am
    (cont.)

    That isn`t to say atheists cannot be good people.
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    jbwhite Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:32 am
    Tides... I`ve never thought about that, holy poo... I think I was just made a believer.

    *Googles `how tides work`* Oh wait, nvm.
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    Infested Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:34 am
    Why would believing in a god make you a better person?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:39 am
    "Thor on Mount Olympus" - lolz! It was even funnier because it slipped right past O`Reily.
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    MikeyNiv Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:43 am
    @Wildcat
    I`d like to believe that if I`m a good person and an atheist, God will still let me into heaven, rather than a person who just says they believe in God to escape hell but in reality aren`t as good a person or even that religious.
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    DiegoDeFuego Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:49 am
    Never in the bible does it ever assert that God is an old man in a robe standing in the sky who hurls down lightning bolts.

    And just because you can quote or show a video of a christian being stupid doesn`t mean Christianity is stupid.

    It`s really annoying how most arguments against Christianity are either straw men arguments or ad hominem. Just because you`re "fighting ignorance" or whatever you think you`re goals are doesn`t mean you are immune to being ignorant yourself.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:49 am
    I agree with Keepay: this guy dropped the ball. Bill`s whole tactic is to keep guests arguing about inflammatory points that never lead anywhere and end the show pre-maturely when they start making valid points.

    Silverman could have used the opportunity to debunk a however common myth some people have: that being religious means you were duped and that makes you a moron. Instead we got 5 minutes of pointless arguing where all you learned from this guy is that atheist.org`s agenda is to draw atheists out of their hiding places, which is a lame agenda of which they`re doing a piss-poor job with those billboards. If they`re honest about their agenda then do they really think they`re gonna solve anything by pointing out what their target audience already knows?
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    TxTnViolence Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:52 am
    o`really gets owned again. this guy is just a glutton for punishment.
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:52 am
    I`m pretty sure Dave Silverman knows how tides work and he did very well not answering that question - as he said, it doesn`t matter if you know how it works or not - not knowing does not require that a god did it.

    @wildcats, belief does not equate to a fact.

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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:54 am
    @DiegoDeFuego
    I know no christian who doesn`t cut the hair that grows from his temples. All of them must be going to hell but the church, which is lead by men who also get their hair cut, takes their money. If the God their book teaches you to worship exists then all these people are going to hell and the followers are being scammed out of their money. If that God doesn`t exist all these followers are being scammed out of their money.

    It`s a scam.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 10:59 am
    Yeah! And what about this "photosynthesis" poo? EXPLAIN THAT, SCIENCE!
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    Kozy Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:09 am
    I just don`t understand why atheists are so fixated about God.

    Dear atheists,
    GET. A. LIFE.
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    Wildcats2008 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:12 am
    MattPrince:

    That is EXACTLY what I said! Just because this guy believes there is no God does not make it a FACT. It might be a fact to him but without hard evidence it is simply his BELIEF not a universal truth.

    MikeyNiv:

    I`m not even going to begin to say that I know whether or not that is true simply because there is no way to know until you reach that point. In my flawed human thinking, I would think that someone would need to acknowledge the existence of someone before you go asking them for something. Kind of like a situation where no one pays attention to a kid in school but then they find out his parents are loaded so then they all want to be his friend.

    But again, that my flawed mind. It is ultimately up to God who gets into Heaven and He has His reasons.
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    Volsunga Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:13 am
    I`m going to laugh when this guy retires and admits that he was a satirist the whole time.
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    APJ311 Male 13-17
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:13 am
    Haha, Fox News is so bad. Do people really watch that?
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    MikeyNiv Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:21 am
    Wildcats - if God doesn`t work that way, well then he`s not really a God I want to be involved in. (floods, murdering, ridiculous rules aside)
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:22 am
    I`m glad I live in a forward thinking country and not some backwater like.... where is this? America? The leader of the western world? REALLY? YOU ARE pooTING ME!?
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:24 am
    meh....
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    megavidiot Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:26 am
    Wow, I`ve never actually seen any Fox news, never bothered until now. What an idiot...
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    pumba62 Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:29 am
    Hello Mr. Kettle? Mr Pot here ...you are black!!!

    Why would ANYONE even contemplate going on that show. He`s worse than Oprah ...you can`t get a word in edgewise ....." I am going to cut you off because I love the sound of my own voice la dee daa blah blah blah ....
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    madest Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:31 am
    Never in the bible does it ever assert that God is an old man in a robe standing in the sky who hurls down lightning bolts.
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    Well, it does say that God created man in his image and since the Pope is old and white, sits on a throne in a guilded palace, wears a white flowing robe and carries a staff it`s not such a stretch to assume what God looks like.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:37 am
    "it`s not such a stretch to assume what God looks like."

    It`s also not a stretch to say that God looks like Megan Fox either.
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:37 am
    Punching bag or not, this guy handled it like a pro.. I would not have been able to contain the delightfully scornful laugh i just had.
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    verinon Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:39 am
    I hope the invisible man in the sky gives Bill a heart attack soon. Then I will throw a party.
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    betardfooser Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:46 am
    Also, magnets; how the fook do they work?
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    rakoonhat Female 30-39
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:53 am
    in not really religious but that is an insult. how can you call people sheep, or dull basicaly, and not find that offensive.
    i dont want to see anyones religious billboard that includes catholic, muslim, or athiest. its the stupidest war ever concieved
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    xXKaryXx Female 13-17
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:57 am
    lmao oh god this was funny xD
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    xXKaryXx Female 13-17
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:59 am
    @madest
    not everyone who believes in god is catholic :]
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    dratin` tides, how do THEY work?

    Also... yeah, I agree. There are probably a lot of atheists in church-- or at the very least skeptics. They take part because it`s a family thing, it`s a social thing. It`s expected and it`s tradition. People take part in Christmas even though they don`t believe in Santa. It`s just tradition.
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    brittneybop Female 18-29
    23 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 12:26 pm
    Gotta love Bill O`Reilly for making up numbers and failing to understand basic physics.
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    FromPortugal Male 18-29
    304 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 12:29 pm
    tides go in... tides go out... ITS THE MOON!!! and its gravitation powers over the planet...

    come on...tides go in ... tides go out...LOL

    i was hopping he said something like the earth its the center of the universe...the sun moves arround the earth...the earth is flat...there are seamonsters and ciclops and werewolfs and vampires...

    XXI century and thats what i´ve been missing on tv...

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    regediT Male 18-29
    716 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 12:30 pm
    I love how Kozy is a complete FAIL of a troll. Go back to troll school, troll nub.
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    @xXKaryXx
    it`s not only catholics that have something that says that
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    Lukgeezy Male 18-29
    606 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 12:32 pm
    ha wow arguing a never ending conflict...retarded...No God!!!
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 12:43 pm
    Silverman squirms around like a worm, Won`t answer O`Reilly`s questions, tries to dodge and weave. It`s like trying to pin jello to a wall.

    Typical liberal, they`ll punch you in the nose then tell you they didn`t. Even if you get them cornered and they admit they punched you in the nose, they`ll say you deserved it and won`t apologize.
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    ilfg Male 18-29
    336 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 12:44 pm
    is this supposed to be an interview or a monologue? i`m confused.
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    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
    798 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    This is the worst guy to represent an athiest point of view. Ever.

    Explaining how tides work could easily have shut O`Reilly down early, but this guy was just like "WELL ITS NOT A GUY ON MOUNT OLYMPUS HERP DERP."
  96. Profile photo of I-IS-BORED
    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 12:51 pm
    He`s not dodging anything Crakr, he can`t manage to get out a sentence before O`Reilly cuts him off with a new question. O`Reilly keeps redirecting before he can answer anything and he only ever `dodges` to try to get back on topic. It`s pretty clear neither of these men should be involved in television broadcasts.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 12:54 pm
    Silverman squirms around like a worm, Won`t answer O`Reilly`s questions, tries to dodge and weave.

    Oh yeah because dealing with O`Reilly`s constant interruptions is dodging.</sarcasm> O`Reilly`s also putting words into the athiest`s mouth.
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    Kozy Male 18-29
    118 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    @regediT
    "I love how Kozy is a complete FAIL of a troll. Go back to troll school, troll nub."

    If I was trolling you wouldn`t know it.

    Video
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    Keegan31 Male 18-29
    228 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    O`Reilly squirms around like a worm, Won`t answer Silverman`s questions, tries to dodge and weave. It`s like trying to pin jello to a wall.

    Typical conservative, they`ll punch you in the nose then tell you they didn`t. Even if you get them cornered and they admit they punched you in the nose, they`ll say you deserved it and won`t apologize.
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    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
    798 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    Also, Crakr, I don`t think this has anything to do with "typical liberals", since liberal ‚ athiest and conservative ‚ religious. I think this is a matter of retards.

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    XbigXmommaX Female 18-29
    474 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    wow i`m really disappointed in this guy for not being able to at least briefly explain how tides work, that`s like high school earth science :P
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    trelina Female 18-29
    249 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    why do people go on his show. that guy never lets anyone talk.
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    fiizok Male 40-49
    591 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 1:02 pm
    What did you expect? It`s the Fox Comedy Channel.
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    sawdusty Male 40-49
    491 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 1:02 pm
    Just STFU already.O`Reilly is a loud mouthed bully and a pucking moron imho.
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    KeePay Male 18-29
    494 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 1:23 pm
    I think this summarizes this atheist`s view of religion.

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    rainbowfarts Female 18-29
    798 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 1:24 pm
    They`re both idiots. O`Reilly for obvious reasons and for Silverman saying it`s a fact that we all know religion is a scam. Obviously Silverman doesn`t know the difference between fact and opinion.
  107. Profile photo of Hawcon
    Hawcon Male 18-29
    44 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 1:51 pm
    I`ll quote someone from youtube:

    "I know I`m not the smartest guy in town" and then he goes on to prove it. Good on you, Bill-O! And hey, don`t take any cruises anytime soon, you might fall off the edge and I am not sure your mystical magical man in the sky will catch you. Hey Bill, I will be very happy to meet you on the walkway of the George Washington Bridge and show you how gravity works.
  108. Profile photo of Buiadh
    Buiadh Male 30-39
    6739 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    Silverman squirms around like a worm, Won`t answer O`Reilly`s questions, tries to dodge and weave. It`s like trying to pin jello to a wall.

    Typical liberal, they`ll punch you in the nose then tell you they didn`t. Even if you get them cornered and they admit they punched you in the nose, they`ll say you deserved it and won`t apologize.

    Why do you bring politics into it continuously?

    You can be religious without being a conservative.

    God I hate American Black/White politics.
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
    3291 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 1:55 pm
    "Let me just assert this, believe in God and believe you are saved and you die, but there is no God, what have you gained except being a better person in this life. If you don`t believe in God and die and it turns out there is a God...well I guess you`re in a world of crap."

    But if you believe in God only out of fear that you won`t be saved, are you really going to be saved?

    The Christian belief is that if you believe in God, when you die, God MAY show you mercy and let you into Heaven, or He may not. Christians strive to live a good life, according to God`s rules, to gain that mercy, but it`s not guaranteed.

    On the other hand, I live a good life, according to society`s rules, because I believe in being a good person, and I respect those around me. If I`m wrong, and there is a God, I`ll be damned to Hell, but I`ll go there knowing that I lived a good life because it was the right thing to do, and I`ll thumb my nose at Christians who made it to Heav
  110. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 1:57 pm
    If I am wrong, I have lived a good life. No harm no foul.

    If Atheists are wrong, they go to hell.

    Which is better?
  111. Profile photo of DeutschDude9
    DeutschDude9 Male 18-29
    473 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 2:01 pm
    @auburnjunky

    If you are wrong then you just led a life contributing to the ignorance, hate, violence and racism that comes from religion.
  112. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 2:04 pm
    But I`ll be dead. Why would I care?
  113. Profile photo of DeutschDude9
    DeutschDude9 Male 18-29
    473 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 2:05 pm
    good point.
  114. Profile photo of TokioKoos
    TokioKoos Female 18-29
    412 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 2:10 pm
    I`ll believe in god the moment Bill O`Reilly lets someone finish a damn sentence. *eyeroll*
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    Concetra Male 18-29
    2050 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 2:13 pm



    I just want to snap Bill O`Reilly drat face head 720 degrees.
  116. Profile photo of Anger
    Anger Male 18-29
    218 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 2:27 pm
    auburnjunky i bet you forward chain letters too cause i mean "hey if i forward this no harm no foul, but if i dont i could have relationship problems for 20 years"
  117. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 2:30 pm
    Apples and Oranges.
  118. Profile photo of ParasyT
    ParasyT Male 13-17
    533 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 2:50 pm
    @auburnjunky

    What exactly are you talking about "If they are wrong" wrong about what? Christian mythology? Islamic Mythology? Norse Mythology? Egyptian Mythology? There are more religions on the table than just Christianity when it comes to "who is wrong." As Richard Dawkins said "What if i`m wrong, no, what if YOU`RE wrong?!?"
  119. Profile photo of I-IS-BORED
    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 2:53 pm
    @auburnjunky
    apples and apples
  120. Profile photo of I-IS-BORED
    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 2:55 pm
    If there is a god out there that wants to damn an atheist to hell for being a good person because they WANTED to and lets a believer into heaven because they were a good person out of fear of being damned then is that really a god worth devoting yourself to?
  121. Profile photo of I-IS-BORED
    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 2:58 pm
    What kind of Omnibenevolent/potent/present/scient being could have such an inferiority complex that they would require the worship of mortal beings to feel important?
  122. Profile photo of fattpill
    fattpill Male 30-39
    255 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 3:15 pm
    Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field. 45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it. 47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
  123. Profile photo of AmberCherry
    AmberCherry Female 18-29
    98 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 3:18 pm
    I can`t watch these videos and read these comments without raging anymore. Also why I stopped attending atheist meet-ups. Its so completely useless, no side is going to back down. Ego`s stroking ego`s. GRRR.
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    moulander Male 18-29
    16 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 3:27 pm
    Tides work as follows,
    The Earth and the moon are constantly falling toward each other, and much like a liquid makes a tear drop shape when falling so does our planet and our moon. The moon is actually egg shaped with the heavy part facing the earth (this is why only one face of the moon ever shows). Earth because of its large bodies of water rather then deforming land into this egg shape, deforms the oceans. This is why high tide happens twice a day, once when the moon is directly over head and once again (to a slightly more dramatic degree but for a shorter time) when it is directly bellow.
  125. Profile photo of woomanfoo
    woomanfoo Male 18-29
    534 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 3:42 pm
    It should only be insulting if the reader of the sign knows that there is some truth to it. As an atheist, why would it insult me to be told that I`m going somewhere I don`t believe in?
  126. Profile photo of ElMustache
    ElMustache Male 18-29
    1625 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 3:45 pm
    Blah, blah, blah. Bill oriley`s an assh*le.
  127. Profile photo of DomTheDaring
    DomTheDaring Male 18-29
    70 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    Listening to Bill O`Reilly is like listening to the sounds your butthole makes after a long night of binge-drinking and eating magma-hot Tai food. (Both are loud, pooty, flatulant non-nice individuals.)
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    hyeonkim0805 Male 18-29
    667 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 4:00 pm
    Can somebody just shoot that motherfcker please?
  129. Profile photo of Maximus23623
    Maximus23623 Male 18-29
    102 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 4:02 pm
    This guy gives atheists a bad name. I`m not atheist, but still...
  130. Profile photo of Maximus23623
    Maximus23623 Male 18-29
    102 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 4:04 pm
    Please note that I am NOT saying Bill is right.
  131. Profile photo of greenbasterd
    greenbasterd Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 4:11 pm
    what an idiot the tides are controlled by the gravitation pull of the moon and the coriolis effect.

    every 2nd grader knows that
  132. Profile photo of Mailbox
    Mailbox Male 18-29
    255 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 4:23 pm
    Atheist President o_0. what that exists? why?
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    samenamegame Female 18-29
    131 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 4:32 pm
    has bill o`reilly honestly never seen a "you`re all going to hell" billboard? i`ve seen hundreds of them in my life.
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    akiiryuuha Female 18-29
    69 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 5:00 pm
    @fattpill I`m sorry, I can`t see your point over the lack of you making one.
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    Wiggle1111 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 5:04 pm
    I hate you all.
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    SmilinSam Female 18-29
    3599 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 5:08 pm
    God dammit bill "it`s certainly an insult in my opinion so that`s what it is case closed no arguing... now WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO INSULT ME?" UGH this guy makes my blood boil. oh my god. and when the guy says, "the point is they are allowed to say what they want to say, we`re allowed to say what we want to say" bill just looks blankly and say "ok" like he doesn`t want to go down that path because he knows he will look like a fool. he wants everyone to have all the freedoms entitled unless they offend HIM.
  137. Profile photo of I-IS-BORED
    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 5:12 pm
    @fattpill
    Thanks, I make a valid question and you respond with complete gibberish.
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    SmilinSam Female 18-29
    3599 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 5:13 pm
    "what good does it do 2% of the population to insult and attack 80%?"
    umm... so because they are minority they shouldn`t get to say what they believe?
    God this guy bases all his arguments on his own misstatements!!
  139. Profile photo of handys003
    handys003 Male 50-59
    2402 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 5:28 pm
    Hahahahahah! What a con job. Atheist.org is a scam as well. It`s marketing to get you to view their website and to join. Way to go Bill O`Reilly to help market the cause. It`s the proverbial pot calling the kettle black scenario.
  140. Profile photo of Kozy
    Kozy Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 5:50 pm
    @fattpill
  141. Profile photo of tridirk
    tridirk Male 50-59
    313 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 5:52 pm
    Infested asks Why would believing in a god make you a better person?
    Really? You can`t see how to some it might?

    Well, "How does not believing make you a better person?". For whatever answers are given, will apply to your question also.
  142. Profile photo of s0rd3dvis1on
    s0rd3dvis1on Male 18-29
    2388 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 5:57 pm
    ummmm why didnt the athiest just say luna?????
    This interview is worth endless entertainment
  143. Profile photo of Spider_sol
    Spider_sol Male 18-29
    1452 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 6:41 pm
    Wait, if 1% of the US is atheist and 80% is not... what`s the other 19%??
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    SebastianLam Male 13-17
    730 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 6:54 pm
    @Spider_sol Agnostic or unsure?
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    yagovaggo Male 30-39
    476 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 7:18 pm
    Bill O`reilly IS a moron. He is getting older and stupider and he knows it! When you see someone acting like he just did.. He was clearly insulting his guest... it is because he losing his wits on debating! Got the F uck off Television Bill. Your done!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 6, 2011 at 7:26 pm
    Considering the world will end on May 21st this year, you might wanna get some religion.....
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    perviggo Male 18-29
    104 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 7:43 pm
    irritating that they can`t even have a debate without interrupting eachother all the damn time! they never actually got to the point
  148. Profile photo of Agent00Smith
    Agent00Smith Male 18-29
    2581 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 7:50 pm
    Bill O`Reilly is the epitome of TV
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    bigbangbilly Male 13-17
    698 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 8:00 pm
    Watching them argue gave me lots of schadenfreude.
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    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
    192 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 8:34 pm
    Atheism is a scam lol
    funny thing is i bet all the atheists out there are in an uproar about that statement turned around. But the thing is even though i am a Christian i do not talk bad about others beliefs now i was playing around with that statement but its funny how on here Christianity is always talked down about, but atheists are first to cry about their beliefs being talked about Why cant this Dave Silvermen just believe what he wants and leave the insults to someone else also i will add Christians need to leave everyone else alone too. In my opinion when the end of the world does happen i will be going to heaven, and IF Christianity is wrong (which i am sure is not the case) then I am wrong WTF does it matter the end result will be whatever it is
  151. Profile photo of green_batman
    green_batman Female 18-29
    728 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 8:36 pm
    @auburnjunky: Pascal`s wager seems a rather insincere way of defending a faith-based doctrine. It removes the faith from the equation. If you support belief in God through arguing that it is more personally beneficial to believe in God, you are not supporting true belief in God.

    Further, in your first post in this thread, you hinted at the problem of first causes. Basically, it is the concept that each thing in turn is caused by another. Most religious people choose to stop the chain at God, but there is no logical reason to do so. Why must God be the first thing? Couldn`t there be something that caused God, by the same argument that says that God caused man? If there can`t have been something that caused God, doesn`t that open the possibility that God can`t have caused man, or anything else, for that matter?
  152. Profile photo of shaboinkin
    shaboinkin Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:53 pm
    "IF Christianity is wrong (which i am sure is not the case) then I am wrong WTF does it matter the end result will be whatever it is"

    Then wouldn`t you go to some other hell?
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    bakeybake Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2011 at 8:58 pm
    i want to see them both sit down and have a 30 second period to talk then the other one and back and fourth. bill would get owned. people learn how the tides work in year 8 science.
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    teph2112 Male 13-17
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    January 6, 2011 at 9:03 pm
    One day, this will be known as Classical American Debating
  155. Profile photo of Animecha
    Animecha Male 18-29
    147 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 9:14 pm
    "when the end of the world does happen"
    Or never happens, whichever is the case.

    "and IF Christianity is wrong (which i am sure is not the case) then I am wrong WTF does it matter the end result will be whatever it is"

    You would go to hindu, islam, egyptian, or (insert religion here) Hell. Enjoy your 1 in a million chance of being in the right religion.
  156. Profile photo of ajd121
    ajd121 Male 18-29
    625 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 9:24 pm
    I think it`s fairly obvious that O`Reilly wasn`t talking about Ocean Tides, rather he was talking about how Tide the Laundry detergent works.

    When Tide goes in, it`s blue, When Tide come out, after a wash it`s gone and no blue residue left. Now that is truly an unexplainable act of God.
  157. Profile photo of ProBo
    ProBo Male 18-29
    42 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 9:58 pm
    @mandingo3519 Ha! I have been disrespected, yelled at, ect by many a christian. Don`t act like Christians are the victim. Just because jesus was persecuted dosn`t mean you are. You have churches every city, and not just one. So don`t act like non belivers are the only bad apples. thats just stupid.
  158. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 10:03 pm
    "Enjoy your 1 in a million chance of being in the right religion."

    I will thanks.
  159. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 10:04 pm
    Also, it`s actually one in like 4 if you are only counting major religions.

    Most offshoots fall under the big ones anyway.
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    saaytin Male 18-29
    171 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 10:18 pm
    It really doesn`t matter the existence of God or not, but how people carry out their beliefs. I`m agnostic but I have to agree with O`Reilly on this one.

    When you start making statements of personal beliefs to be `Facts`, and start antagonizing people who don`t agree with you, and are trying to find a sense of community with like minded people, well you are a religion.

    It doesn`t matter if you believe in this god or that god or no god, once you try to preach to people how right you are and how wrong everyone else is, it becomes very hypocritical on what atheists are trying to protest.

    I believe your personal beliefs should be just that, personal. And if anyone is folding into familial pressure in matters of belief, well that`s your own problem for not being able to stand up for your beliefs.
  161. Profile photo of I-IS-BORED
    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 10:47 pm
    "Well, "How does not believing make you a better person?". For whatever answers are given, will apply to your question also."

    Nope, not believing in God means your good deeds are genuine. Believing in God means you require a reward for everything nice you ever do (at least believing in the God we`re talking about here does).
  162. Profile photo of jak22
    jak22 Male 18-29
    154 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 10:48 pm
    the atheist guy is a fuggin idiot. so is oreily. im an atheist , but i certainly dont believe the church is filled with em. way to make us look like dbags.
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    SlimPickins Male 18-29
    120 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 11:05 pm
    hahahah o`rly O`Reilly spanked that self-hating-in-denial-jew`s ass. i could tell he was really Jewish , and not an atheist, by his nose.
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    AmberCherry Female 18-29
    98 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 11:26 pm
    I`m not sure what I`m most disappointed in. This video, these comments, or myself for continuing to read them.
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    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
    192 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 11:29 pm
    @ ProBo its called read WTF is wrote as i said Christians need to leave others alone too. but this just shows how people will omit everything to construe what was said to fit what he/she wanted it to be said. and as far as the person who said have fun with my one in whatever chance
    1. in my mind i have a 100% chance of being right
    2. book wise most religions, while names places ect are different, they most follow the same "outline" so who am i to say who is wrong
    3. Atheism, regardless what you want to say, is by definition a religion of sorts (its the belief that there is no God) so you have fun with your one in a ...... just pointing it out
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    meganmakeart Female 18-29
    225 posts
    January 6, 2011 at 11:32 pm
    he makes atheists look like aholes.
    its a pity.
  167. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2011 at 11:56 pm
    Silverman was 100% correct not to explain the tides to O`Reilly, its not relevant that we know how the tide works. Atheists do not have to disprove religion, as religion brings nothing material to disprove.

    Silverman is saying that most religions are `scams` (inflammatory, he could have chosen something less aggressive) passed down from generation to generation and perpetuated through social pressure to conform to a given cultural identity.

    The distribution of religions around the world over time backs his viewpoint does it not?
  168. Profile photo of k-two
    k-two Male 40-49
    122 posts
    January 7, 2011 at 12:21 am
    Okay - I didn`t know either of the two until I watched this clip, and IMHO both behave like complete morons.

    Silverman is not proposing atheism, but anti-theism. By being aggressively missionary and trying to force people into his belief-system, he is doing the very same thing that he criticises in religions. Can`t take that seriously.

    O`Reilly could ask his grandchildren about the tides. The concept is taught at schools and easily picked up by fifth-graders (I hope not only on this side of the Atlantic). Can`t take him seriously, either.

    Your mileage may vary.
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    britt566 Female 18-29
    2290 posts
    January 7, 2011 at 12:37 am
    wow... this entire atheist/religion thing... is still... going...

    Ya know how they always say "Stop feeding the troll" in order to help end the trolling ?

    STOP FEEDING THE ARGUMENT, and agree to disagree.
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    BoredIAm Male 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 3:32 am
    Two a-holes mindlessly chattering. A glimpse of the future when IAB flamewars will have video capablilty.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 3:39 am
    @mandingo3519

    "3. Atheism, regardless what you want to say, is by definition a religion of sorts"

    No, it is not.

    Religion involves believing in something existing for which there is no proof.

    Atheism is NOT believing in anything unless there is proof.

    It involves the Null Hypothesis; the assumption that something does not exist until it is proven that it does, rather than assuming something does exist until it is proven that it does not.

    Think of it as an "innocent until proven guilty" kind of thing.

    It is also logically useful. If I assert that ducks exist until you prove that they do not, you would have to examine the entire universe and every point within it to ensure there are no ducks anywhere.

    However, if I assert that ducks do not exist until you prove that they do, all you have to do is find and present to me a single duck.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 3:44 am
    And regarding Pascal`s wager, here is the problem with it:

    If I told you that you`ll go to heaven when you die if you smack yourself hard in the balls (or ladybits) every ten seconds for the rest of your life, would you do it?

    No, because you HAVE got something to lose; a life of comfort and enjoyment, free from genital smacking.

    Living a life made miserable and guilt-ridden, or even just mildly constrained, by a religious dogma may not be as extreme as this, but it IS a price to pay for an unproven reward/punishment.

    Giving your life to a religion is like giving your money to a Nigerian scammer; paying a price for a reward another human being (or book...written by a human being) has offered, without any proof it even exists.
  173. Profile photo of s8tan
    s8tan Male 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 4:14 am
    Atheism is BELIEVING that there is NO god.

    Agnosticism is not not knowing if there is a god. The subject is met with scepticism.
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    January 7, 2011 at 4:54 am
    Atheism doesn`t actually require belief. It means Godless, and a newborn child is, by default, an Atheist until taught otherwise.
  175. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 4:57 am
    @s8tan

    "Atheism is BELIEVING that there is NO god."

    Belief: "Mental acceptance of and conviction in the truth, actuality, or validity of something", then yes, it is.

    Just as I also believe...as in, I mentally accept and are convicted of thet truth, actuality and validity of it...that I am living in a nitrogen-rich atmosphere.

    You`re not making ANY point here. Religion isn`t defined by belief anything more than anything else; it is defined by FAITH, which is belief without proof, an attribute that atheism certainly does NOT share.

    And THAT is why atheism isn`t a religion; it believes in the null hypothesis, the assumption that something does not exist until proved otherwise, rather than the other way around.
  176. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 5:00 am
    @s8tan

    And if you reject the null hypothesis, then you`re no different from nutcases that say that fairies and monsters under the bed exist, because nobody has yet proven that they don`t exist.

    Rational people assume no fairies or monsters until proof that they exist turn up.

    Similarly, rational people assume no god until proof that one exists turns up.

    To paraphrase Mr Garrison, upon being asked by Cartman to suck his balls, if you wish to assert that gods/fairies/monsters exist, I reply only this:

    "Present them."
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    Knifedyoubro Male 13-17
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    January 7, 2011 at 5:26 am
    It`s caused by the moons gravitational pull dim wits.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 5:36 am
    By the by, for anyone who doesn`t get the tides thing (because it confused me for a LONG time; the part where you get a tide on the side AWAY from the moon too), here`s my way of explaining it:

    The Earth and the Moon are actually orbiting eachother. The moon is pulled towards the Earth, and the Earth is pulled towards the moon. They are constantly falling towards eachother and missing.

    The side of the Earth facing the Moon is being pulled harder towards the Moon than the middle of the Earth is, because it is closer. This explains the high tide there, because the water is being pulled up harder than the Earth beneath it.

    The side facing away from the Moon is not being pulled as hard as the centre or nearside of the Earth are being pulled, as it is further away from the Moon. The high tide here is caused by the water not falling as quickly towards the Moon as the Earth beneath it is.
  179. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 5:40 am
    And that`s roughly the explanation; the Earth is falling towarsds the Moon, with the "front" being pulled ahead of the main bulk of the Earth, because it`s closer and experiencing a stronger gravitational tug, and the "rear" lagging behind the main bulk of the Earth as it`s further away and not experiencing as strong a gravitational tug.

    The effect is VERY slight, but because we have fluid seas that move about freely, it is more obvious than, say, it is on the Moon (which experiences the same effect from the Earth).
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    eskimo9 Male 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 5:43 am
    I like the way the caption reads: "Bill O`Reilly doesn`t understand tides and that`s proof enough to him that there is a God," rather than, say, "Head of the atheist movement attacks heads of religion with defamatory signs." Wonder which way IAB staffers swing?

    Also, ` is defined by FAITH, which is belief without proof, an attribute that atheism certainly does NOT share.` Really? Absence of proof is not proof of absence, so atheism does not run on pure PROOF, rather on FAITH that there is no God.

    Not that I can really complain, I`m a fence-sitter who likes to stir the pot.
  181. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 5:57 am
    @eskimo9

    And atheists are not saying that there is proof of no god. We are saying that there is no proof that there IS god.

    It`s like being in an empty room, unable to see the outside world. Logically, you would say that there is no proof that ducks exist, because there is no duck in the room. You are not saying that ducks DO NOT exist somewhere.

    But you ARE saying that there is currently no proof to lead you to believe that ducks DO exist.

    So until someone brings a duck into the room, it is logical to not believe that ducks exist.

    Not believing something exists /= believing something does not exist.

    Very important distinction. But for everyday conversation, it`s easier to say "does not exist" than "there is no proof that it does exist".
  182. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 6:01 am
    I`m not explaining it very well, but that`s vaguely the essence of the Null Hypothesis:

    A good explanation is this: in the courts, you are innocent until proven guilty. You can also be proven innocent (alibi, etc), but the innocence is presumed until proven either way, innocence being "absence of guilt".

    So "absence of god" is assumed until proof of "god".
  183. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 6:06 am
    And the reason we assume "no god" until "god" is proved, in the same way we assume "no guilt" until "guilt" is proved?

    Well, because that is the default rational position to occupy; nothing exists until proven otherwise.
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    BDT1981 Male 18-29
    132 posts
    January 7, 2011 at 8:01 am
    Yes calling something a scam is insulting.

    Atheist have just as much right to put up billboards as churches do and I have seen church billboards.

    Bill o`Reilly is an idiot.

    Tides are proof the moon has a gravitational pull on the Earth.

    The other guy is an idiot for not using that last argument.
  185. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    January 7, 2011 at 8:56 am
    No, no, no. Explaining the why of the moons tides weakens the atheist position. The atheist does not need to prove anything. Its pointless to try and explain things to the faithful anyway (religious counter - so who put the moon up there then?)

    A true atheist don`t need an imaginary friend for stuff to work. Whether they know how it works or not (yet).

    Also for everyone who laughs and says they know how tides work, do you really understand the double bulge effect (I`m still not sure Musuko does) What about double tides?
  186. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 9:11 am
    @MattPrince

    "Also for everyone who laughs and says they know how tides work, do you really understand the double bulge effect (I`m still not sure Musuko does) What about double tides?"

    I understand the double bulge effect. I`m just bad at explaining it. :P

    It is very difficult to get your head around. It took a while to find an explanation that I could understand and build up from.

    What`s important, though, is the effort made to understand it; you don`t know, so you go about finding out. Rather than just go "I don`t know, that means god did it with MAGIC!"
  187. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    January 7, 2011 at 9:25 am
    :) I`m not sure I could explain it any better myself.
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    austin1 Male 30-39
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    January 7, 2011 at 9:35 am
    Whether religion is a scam or not, it does provide comfort for hundreds of millions of people. Why can’t people just let people be happy.
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    January 7, 2011 at 11:31 am
    VV and fear, hate and repression, those too.
  190. Profile photo of Blatto
    Blatto Male 18-29
    358 posts
    January 7, 2011 at 11:54 am
    Thor is the god of thunder. What a noob
  191. Profile photo of furryblob
    furryblob Male 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 1:18 pm
    I don`t mind if religion gives people comfort. It`s when people use religion to make decisions that effect us all or try to force their beliefs on others. Then I have a problem.
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    Jats Male 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 1:29 pm
    I`ll just make this short and sweet: God isn`t real.
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    tridirk Male 50-59
    313 posts
    January 7, 2011 at 2:03 pm
    It`s when people use religion to make decisions that effect us all or try to force their beliefs on others. Then I have a problem. Politicians do this all the time.
    The religion of believing in a god, or the religion believing in a cause, does it really matter?

    I think most of us apply our beliefs to the moral values that we live by each day. No matter where those beliefs come from don`t we?
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    lilwitch Female 18-29
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    January 7, 2011 at 3:17 pm
    I agree 100% furryblob. I have my opinions and unless necessary I do not unleash them on unsuspecting people
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    InfatuateMe Female 13-17
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    January 7, 2011 at 9:42 pm
    I don`t believe there is a God but if it makes my family happy then i do.
  196. Profile photo of Calithlin
    Calithlin Male 18-29
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    January 8, 2011 at 5:43 am
    People force their beleifs on other people regardless of religion. Take athiests for example...
  197. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    January 8, 2011 at 3:02 pm
    Ok - I believe `beliefs` is spelt this way not that
    VV
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    beccajdavis Female 18-29
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    January 8, 2011 at 11:41 pm
    To Calithlin,

    I live in the south of the United States of America, (South Carolina, to be exact) and I am seriously offended by your comment. Because of all of the hell I would get from all of the `Bible-Belt-Christ-Humpers` out there, because of all the ridicule, the "praying for my soul", I don`t announce to the world that I am an atheist. For you to say that my kind `force` their beliefs on other people is an insult to the effort that I have put forth since the eighth grade to conceal my true beliefs.
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    BadFiend Male 18-29
    42 posts
    January 9, 2011 at 4:59 pm
    There is no one question or statement that I can pose to make a theist convert to atheism, I can only hope that the things I say will cause them to seriously question their beliefs, as I did. And maybe that will allow them to see that atheism isn`t about disbelieving God, it`s about believing that one day we will understand our origin, and chances are it`s not going to be Yahweh or Allah. People put their faith in Jesus, or some similar prophet, and are blinded to the possibilities out there. I do want people to stop believing in god, but I don`t want them to agree with me. Differing opinions are what makes us human, and voicing them is what gives us humanity. If you don`t want me to talk about what I believe, stop going door to door with a Bible, stop building grand churches with towering steeples, and watch the world grow silent as everyone fears offending the people around them too much to say what they believe.
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    DotCommunism Male 18-29
    29 posts
    January 10, 2011 at 4:53 pm
    Goddamnit Poppa Bear is obnoxious. I don`t care what he`s arguing for or against, his candor with guests just makes me want to vomit in a ziplock and mail it to him.
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    Trojan Male 18-29
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    January 12, 2011 at 6:59 pm
    I`ve been to church when I was in the closet about my atheism, and I knew it was bs. I suppose Bill O`Reilly is a loon.

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