Tides, How Do They Work?

Submitted by: madest 6 years ago in

Bill O"Reilly doesn"t understand tides and that"s proof enough to him that there is a God.
There are 201 comments:
Male 511
I`ve been to church when I was in the closet about my atheism, and I knew it was bs. I suppose Bill O`Reilly is a loon.
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Male 29
Goddamnit Poppa Bear is obnoxious. I don`t care what he`s arguing for or against, his candor with guests just makes me want to vomit in a ziplock and mail it to him.
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Male 42
There is no one question or statement that I can pose to make a theist convert to atheism, I can only hope that the things I say will cause them to seriously question their beliefs, as I did. And maybe that will allow them to see that atheism isn`t about disbelieving God, it`s about believing that one day we will understand our origin, and chances are it`s not going to be Yahweh or Allah. People put their faith in Jesus, or some similar prophet, and are blinded to the possibilities out there. I do want people to stop believing in god, but I don`t want them to agree with me. Differing opinions are what makes us human, and voicing them is what gives us humanity. If you don`t want me to talk about what I believe, stop going door to door with a Bible, stop building grand churches with towering steeples, and watch the world grow silent as everyone fears offending the people around them too much to say what they believe.
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Female 160
To Calithlin,

I live in the south of the United States of America, (South Carolina, to be exact) and I am seriously offended by your comment. Because of all of the hell I would get from all of the `Bible-Belt-Christ-Humpers` out there, because of all the ridicule, the "praying for my soul", I don`t announce to the world that I am an atheist. For you to say that my kind `force` their beliefs on other people is an insult to the effort that I have put forth since the eighth grade to conceal my true beliefs.
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Male 2,220
Ok - I believe `beliefs` is spelt this way not that
VV
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Male 40
People force their beleifs on other people regardless of religion. Take athiests for example...
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Female 14
I don`t believe there is a God but if it makes my family happy then i do.
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Female 18
I agree 100% furryblob. I have my opinions and unless necessary I do not unleash them on unsuspecting people
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Male 313
[quote]It`s when people use religion to make decisions that effect us all or try to force their beliefs on others. Then I have a problem.[/quote] Politicians do this all the time.
The religion of believing in a god, or the religion believing in a cause, does it really matter?

I think most of us apply our beliefs to the moral values that we live by each day. No matter where those beliefs come from don`t we?
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Male 242
I`ll just make this short and sweet: God isn`t real.
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Male 573
I don`t mind if religion gives people comfort. It`s when people use religion to make decisions that effect us all or try to force their beliefs on others. Then I have a problem.
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Male 358
Thor is the god of thunder. What a noob
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Male 2,220
VV and fear, hate and repression, those too.
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Male 288
Whether religion is a scam or not, it does provide comfort for hundreds of millions of people. Why can’t people just let people be happy.
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Male 2,220
:) I`m not sure I could explain it any better myself.
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Male 2,850
@MattPrince

"Also for everyone who laughs and says they know how tides work, do you really understand the double bulge effect (I`m still not sure Musuko does) What about double tides?"

I understand the double bulge effect. I`m just bad at explaining it. :P

It is very difficult to get your head around. It took a while to find an explanation that I could understand and build up from.

What`s important, though, is the effort made to understand it; you don`t know, so you go about finding out. Rather than just go "I don`t know, that means god did it with MAGIC!"
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Male 2,220
No, no, no. Explaining the why of the moons tides weakens the atheist position. The atheist does not need to prove anything. Its pointless to try and explain things to the faithful anyway (religious counter - so who put the moon up there then?)

A true atheist don`t need an imaginary friend for stuff to work. Whether they know how it works or not (yet).

Also for everyone who laughs and says they know how tides work, do you really understand the double bulge effect (I`m still not sure Musuko does) What about double tides?
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Male 132
Yes calling something a scam is insulting.

Atheist have just as much right to put up billboards as churches do and I have seen church billboards.

Bill o`Reilly is an idiot.

Tides are proof the moon has a gravitational pull on the Earth.

The other guy is an idiot for not using that last argument.
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Male 2,850
And the reason we assume "no god" until "god" is proved, in the same way we assume "no guilt" until "guilt" is proved?

Well, because that is the default rational position to occupy; nothing exists until proven otherwise.
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Male 2,850
I`m not explaining it very well, but that`s vaguely the essence of the Null Hypothesis:

A good explanation is this: in the courts, you are innocent until proven guilty. You can also be proven innocent (alibi, etc), but the innocence is presumed until proven either way, innocence being "absence of guilt".

So "absence of god" is assumed until proof of "god".
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Male 2,850
@eskimo9

And atheists are not saying that there is proof of no god. We are saying that there is no proof that there IS god.

It`s like being in an empty room, unable to see the outside world. Logically, you would say that there is no proof that ducks exist, because there is no duck in the room. You are not saying that ducks DO NOT exist somewhere.

But you ARE saying that there is currently no proof to lead you to believe that ducks DO exist.

So until someone brings a duck into the room, it is logical to not believe that ducks exist.

Not believing something exists /= believing something does not exist.

Very important distinction. But for everyday conversation, it`s easier to say "does not exist" than "there is no proof that it does exist".
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Male 703
I like the way the caption reads: "Bill O`Reilly doesn`t understand tides and that`s proof enough to him that there is a God," rather than, say, "Head of the atheist movement attacks heads of religion with defamatory signs." Wonder which way IAB staffers swing?

Also, `[religion] is defined by FAITH, which is belief without proof, an attribute that atheism certainly does NOT share.` Really? Absence of proof is not proof of absence, so atheism does not run on pure PROOF, rather on FAITH that there is no God.

Not that I can really complain, I`m a fence-sitter who likes to stir the pot.
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Male 2,850
And that`s roughly the explanation; the Earth is falling towarsds the Moon, with the "front" being pulled ahead of the main bulk of the Earth, because it`s closer and experiencing a stronger gravitational tug, and the "rear" lagging behind the main bulk of the Earth as it`s further away and not experiencing as strong a gravitational tug.

The effect is VERY slight, but because we have fluid seas that move about freely, it is more obvious than, say, it is on the Moon (which experiences the same effect from the Earth).
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Male 2,850
By the by, for anyone who doesn`t get the tides thing (because it confused me for a LONG time; the part where you get a tide on the side AWAY from the moon too), here`s my way of explaining it:

The Earth and the Moon are actually orbiting eachother. The moon is pulled towards the Earth, and the Earth is pulled towards the moon. They are constantly falling towards eachother and missing.

The side of the Earth facing the Moon is being pulled harder towards the Moon than the middle of the Earth is, because it is closer. This explains the high tide there, because the water is being pulled up harder than the Earth beneath it.

The side facing away from the Moon is not being pulled as hard as the centre or nearside of the Earth are being pulled, as it is further away from the Moon. The high tide here is caused by the water not falling as quickly towards the Moon as the Earth beneath it is.
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Male 2
It`s caused by the moons gravitational pull dim wits.
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Male 2,850
@s8tan

And if you reject the null hypothesis, then you`re no different from nutcases that say that fairies and monsters under the bed exist, because nobody has yet proven that they don`t exist.

Rational people assume no fairies or monsters until proof that they exist turn up.

Similarly, rational people assume no god until proof that one exists turns up.

To paraphrase Mr Garrison, upon being asked by Cartman to suck his balls, if you wish to assert that gods/fairies/monsters exist, I reply only this:

"Present them."
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Male 2,850
@s8tan

"Atheism is BELIEVING that there is NO god."

Belief: "Mental acceptance of and conviction in the truth, actuality, or validity of something", then yes, it is.

Just as I also believe...as in, I mentally accept and are convicted of thet truth, actuality and validity of it...that I am living in a nitrogen-rich atmosphere.

You`re not making ANY point here. Religion isn`t defined by belief anything more than anything else; it is defined by FAITH, which is belief without proof, an attribute that atheism certainly does NOT share.

And THAT is why atheism isn`t a religion; it believes in the null hypothesis, the assumption that something does not exist until proved otherwise, rather than the other way around.
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Male 2,220
Atheism doesn`t actually require belief. It means Godless, and a newborn child is, by default, an Atheist until taught otherwise.
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Male 90
Atheism is BELIEVING that there is NO god.

Agnosticism is not not knowing if there is a god. The subject is met with scepticism.
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Male 2,850
And regarding Pascal`s wager, here is the problem with it:

If I told you that you`ll go to heaven when you die if you smack yourself hard in the balls (or ladybits) every ten seconds for the rest of your life, would you do it?

No, because you HAVE got something to lose; a life of comfort and enjoyment, free from genital smacking.

Living a life made miserable and guilt-ridden, or even just mildly constrained, by a religious dogma may not be as extreme as this, but it IS a price to pay for an unproven reward/punishment.

Giving your life to a religion is like giving your money to a Nigerian scammer; paying a price for a reward another human being (or book...written by a human being) has offered, without any proof it even exists.
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Male 2,850
@mandingo3519

"3. Atheism, regardless what you want to say, is by definition a religion of sorts"

No, it is not.

Religion involves believing in something existing for which there is no proof.

Atheism is NOT believing in anything unless there is proof.

It involves the Null Hypothesis; the assumption that something does not exist until it is proven that it does, rather than assuming something does exist until it is proven that it does not.

Think of it as an "innocent until proven guilty" kind of thing.

It is also logically useful. If I assert that ducks exist until you prove that they do not, you would have to examine the entire universe and every point within it to ensure there are no ducks anywhere.

However, if I assert that ducks do not exist until you prove that they do, all you have to do is find and present to me a single duck.
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Male 146
Two a-holes mindlessly chattering. A glimpse of the future when IAB flamewars will have video capablilty.
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Female 2,289
wow... this entire atheist/religion thing... is still... going...

Ya know how they always say "Stop feeding the troll" in order to help end the trolling ?

STOP FEEDING THE ARGUMENT, and agree to disagree.
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Male 122
Okay - I didn`t know either of the two until I watched this clip, and IMHO both behave like complete morons.

Silverman is not proposing atheism, but anti-theism. By being aggressively missionary and trying to force people into his belief-system, he is doing the very same thing that he criticises in religions. Can`t take that seriously.

O`Reilly could ask his grandchildren about the tides. The concept is taught at schools and easily picked up by fifth-graders (I hope not only on this side of the Atlantic). Can`t take him seriously, either.

Your mileage may vary.
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Male 2,220
Silverman was 100% correct not to explain the tides to O`Reilly, its not relevant that we know how the tide works. Atheists do not have to disprove religion, as religion brings nothing material to disprove.

Silverman is saying that most religions are `scams` (inflammatory, he could have chosen something less aggressive) passed down from generation to generation and perpetuated through social pressure to conform to a given cultural identity.

The distribution of religions around the world over time backs his viewpoint does it not?
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Female 225
he makes atheists look like aholes.
its a pity.
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Male 192
@ ProBo its called read WTF is wrote as i said Christians need to leave others alone too. but this just shows how people will omit everything to construe what was said to fit what he/she wanted it to be said. and as far as the person who said have fun with my one in whatever chance
1. in my mind i have a 100% chance of being right
2. book wise most religions, while names places ect are different, they most follow the same "outline" so who am i to say who is wrong
3. Atheism, regardless what you want to say, is by definition a religion of sorts (its the belief that there is no God) so you have fun with your one in a ...... just pointing it out
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Female 98
I`m not sure what I`m most disappointed in. This video, these comments, or myself for continuing to read them.
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Male 120
hahahah o`rly O`Reilly spanked that self-hating-in-denial-jew`s ass. i could tell he was really Jewish , and not an atheist, by his nose.
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Male 154
the atheist guy is a fuggin idiot. so is oreily. im an atheist , but i certainly dont believe the church is filled with em. way to make us look like dbags.
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Male 2,419
"Well, "How does not believing make you a better person?". For whatever answers are given, will apply to your question also."

Nope, not believing in God means your good deeds are genuine. Believing in God means you require a reward for everything nice you ever do (at least believing in the God we`re talking about here does).
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Male 171
It really doesn`t matter the existence of God or not, but how people carry out their beliefs. I`m agnostic but I have to agree with O`Reilly on this one.

When you start making statements of personal beliefs to be `Facts`, and start antagonizing people who don`t agree with you, and are trying to find a sense of community with like minded people, well you are a religion.

It doesn`t matter if you believe in this god or that god or no god, once you try to preach to people how right you are and how wrong everyone else is, it becomes very hypocritical on what atheists are trying to protest.

I believe your personal beliefs should be just that, personal. And if anyone is folding into familial pressure in matters of belief, well that`s your own problem for not being able to stand up for your beliefs.
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Male 10,338
Also, it`s actually one in like 4 if you are only counting major religions.

Most offshoots fall under the big ones anyway.
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Male 10,338
"Enjoy your 1 in a million chance of being in the right religion."

I will thanks.
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Male 42
@mandingo3519 Ha! I have been disrespected, yelled at, ect by many a christian. Don`t act like Christians are the victim. Just because jesus was persecuted dosn`t mean you are. You have churches every city, and not just one. So don`t act like non belivers are the only bad apples. thats just stupid.
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Male 638
I think it`s fairly obvious that O`Reilly wasn`t talking about Ocean Tides, rather he was talking about how Tide the Laundry detergent works.

When Tide goes in, it`s blue, When Tide come out, after a wash it`s gone and no blue residue left. Now that is truly an unexplainable act of God.
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Male 147
"when the end of the world does happen"
Or never happens, whichever is the case.

"and IF Christianity is wrong (which i am sure is not the case) then I am wrong WTF does it matter the end result will be whatever it is"

You would go to hindu, islam, egyptian, or (insert religion here) Hell. Enjoy your 1 in a million chance of being in the right religion.
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Male 650
One day, this will be known as Classical American Debating
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Male 44
i want to see them both sit down and have a 30 second period to talk then the other one and back and fourth. bill would get owned. people learn how the tides work in year 8 science.
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Male 456
"IF Christianity is wrong (which i am sure is not the case) then I am wrong WTF does it matter the end result will be whatever it is"

Then wouldn`t you go to some other hell?
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Female 728
@auburnjunky: Pascal`s wager seems a rather insincere way of defending a faith-based doctrine. It removes the faith from the equation. If you support belief in God through arguing that it is more personally beneficial to believe in God, you are not supporting true belief in God.

Further, in your first post in this thread, you hinted at the problem of first causes. Basically, it is the concept that each thing in turn is caused by another. Most religious people choose to stop the chain at God, but there is no logical reason to do so. Why must God be the first thing? Couldn`t there be something that caused God, by the same argument that says that God caused man? If there can`t have been something that caused God, doesn`t that open the possibility that God can`t have caused man, or anything else, for that matter?
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Male 192
Atheism is a scam lol
funny thing is i bet all the atheists out there are in an uproar about that statement turned around. But the thing is even though i am a Christian i do not talk bad about others beliefs now i was playing around with that statement but its funny how on here Christianity is always talked down about, but atheists are first to cry about their beliefs being talked about Why cant this Dave Silvermen just believe what he wants and leave the insults to someone else also i will add Christians need to leave everyone else alone too. In my opinion when the end of the world does happen i will be going to heaven, and IF Christianity is wrong (which i am sure is not the case) then I am wrong WTF does it matter the end result will be whatever it is
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Male 698
Watching them argue gave me lots of schadenfreude.
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Male 2,579
Bill O`Reilly is the epitome of TV
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Male 104
irritating that they can`t even have a debate without interrupting eachother all the damn time! they never actually got to the point
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Male 39,913
Considering the world will end on May 21st this year, you might wanna get some religion.....
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Male 476
Bill O`reilly IS a moron. He is getting older and stupider and he knows it! When you see someone acting like he just did.. He was clearly insulting his guest... it is because he losing his wits on debating! Got the F uck off Television Bill. Your done!
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Male 730
@Spider_sol Agnostic or unsure?
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Male 1,451
Wait, if 1% of the US is atheist and 80% is not... what`s the other 19%??
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Male 2,388
ummmm why didnt the athiest just say luna?????
This interview is worth endless entertainment
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Male 313
Infested asks [quote]Why would believing in a god make you a better person?[/quote]
Really? You can`t see how to some it might?

Well, "How does not believing make you a better person?". For whatever answers are given, will apply to your question also.
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Male 118
@fattpill
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Male 2,402
Hahahahahah! What a con job. Atheist.org is a scam as well. It`s marketing to get you to view their website and to join. Way to go Bill O`Reilly to help market the cause. It`s the proverbial pot calling the kettle black scenario.
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Female 3,598
"what good does it do 2% of the population to insult and attack 80%?"
umm... so because they are minority they shouldn`t get to say what they believe?
God this guy bases all his arguments on his own misstatements!!
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Male 2,419
@fattpill
Thanks, I make a valid question and you respond with complete gibberish.
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Female 3,598
God dammit bill "it`s certainly an insult in my opinion so that`s what it is case closed no arguing... now WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO INSULT ME?" UGH this guy makes my blood boil. oh my god. and when the guy says, "the point is they are allowed to say what they want to say, we`re allowed to say what we want to say" bill just looks blankly and say "ok" like he doesn`t want to go down that path because he knows he will look like a fool. he wants everyone to have all the freedoms entitled unless they offend HIM.
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Male 78
I hate you all.
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Female 69
@fattpill I`m sorry, I can`t see your point over the lack of you making one.
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Female 131
has bill o`reilly honestly never seen a "you`re all going to hell" billboard? i`ve seen hundreds of them in my life.
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Male 255
Atheist President o_0. what that exists? why?
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Male 2,376
what an idiot the tides are controlled by the gravitation pull of the moon and the coriolis effect.

every 2nd grader knows that
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Male 102
Please note that I am NOT saying Bill is right.
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Male 102
This guy gives atheists a bad name. I`m not atheist, but still...
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Male 667
Can somebody just shoot that motherfcker please?
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Male 70
Listening to Bill O`Reilly is like listening to the sounds your butthole makes after a long night of binge-drinking and eating magma-hot Tai food. (Both are loud, pooty, flatulant non-nice individuals.)
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Male 1,625
Blah, blah, blah. Bill oriley`s an assh*le.
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Male 533
It should only be insulting if the reader of the sign knows that there is some truth to it. As an atheist, why would it insult me to be told that I`m going somewhere I don`t believe in?
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Male 16
Tides work as follows,
The Earth and the moon are constantly falling toward each other, and much like a liquid makes a tear drop shape when falling so does our planet and our moon. The moon is actually egg shaped with the heavy part facing the earth (this is why only one face of the moon ever shows). Earth because of its large bodies of water rather then deforming land into this egg shape, deforms the oceans. This is why high tide happens twice a day, once when the moon is directly over head and once again (to a slightly more dramatic degree but for a shorter time) when it is directly bellow.
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Female 98
I can`t watch these videos and read these comments without raging anymore. Also why I stopped attending atheist meet-ups. Its so completely useless, no side is going to back down. Ego`s stroking ego`s. GRRR.
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Male 256
Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field. 45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it. 47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
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Male 2,419
What kind of Omnibenevolent/potent/present/scient being could have such an inferiority complex that they would require the worship of mortal beings to feel important?
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Male 2,419
If there is a god out there that wants to damn an atheist to hell for being a good person because they WANTED to and lets a believer into heaven because they were a good person out of fear of being damned then is that really a god worth devoting yourself to?
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Male 2,419
@auburnjunky
apples and apples
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Male 533
@auburnjunky

What exactly are you talking about "If they are wrong" wrong about what? Christian mythology? Islamic Mythology? Norse Mythology? Egyptian Mythology? There are more religions on the table than just Christianity when it comes to "who is wrong." As Richard Dawkins said "What if i`m wrong, no, what if YOU`RE wrong?!?"
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Male 10,338
Apples and Oranges.
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Male 218
auburnjunky i bet you forward chain letters too cause i mean "hey if i forward this no harm no foul, but if i dont i could have relationship problems for 20 years"
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Male 2,049



I just want to snap Bill O`Reilly drat face head 720 degrees.
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Female 412
I`ll believe in god the moment Bill O`Reilly lets someone finish a damn sentence. *eyeroll*
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Male 472
good point.
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Male 10,338
But I`ll be dead. Why would I care?
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Male 472
@auburnjunky

If you are wrong then you just led a life contributing to the ignorance, hate, violence and racism that comes from religion.
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Male 10,338
If I am wrong, I have lived a good life. No harm no foul.

If Atheists are wrong, they go to hell.

Which is better?
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Male 3,332
"Let me just assert this, believe in God and believe you are saved and you die, but there is no God, what have you gained except being a better person in this life. If you don`t believe in God and die and it turns out there is a God...well I guess you`re in a world of crap."

But if you believe in God only out of fear that you won`t be saved, are you really going to be saved?

The Christian belief is that if you believe in God, when you die, God MAY show you mercy and let you into Heaven, or He may not. Christians strive to live a good life, according to God`s rules, to gain that mercy, but it`s not guaranteed.

On the other hand, I live a good life, according to society`s rules, because I believe in being a good person, and I respect those around me. If I`m wrong, and there is a God, I`ll be damned to Hell, but I`ll go there knowing that I lived a good life because it was the right thing to do, and I`ll thumb my nose at Christians who made it to Heav
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Male 6,737
[I]Silverman squirms around like a worm, Won`t answer O`Reilly`s questions, tries to dodge and weave. It`s like trying to pin jello to a wall.

Typical liberal, they`ll punch you in the nose then tell you they didn`t. Even if you get them cornered and they admit they punched you in the nose, they`ll say you deserved it and won`t apologize.[/I]

Why do you bring politics into it continuously?

You can be religious without being a conservative.

God I hate American Black/White politics.
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Male 44
I`ll quote someone from youtube:

"I know I`m not the smartest guy in town" and then he goes on to prove it. Good on you, Bill-O! And hey, don`t take any cruises anytime soon, you might fall off the edge and I am not sure your mystical magical man in the sky will catch you. Hey Bill, I will be very happy to meet you on the walkway of the George Washington Bridge and show you how gravity works.
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Female 798
They`re both idiots. O`Reilly for obvious reasons and for Silverman saying it`s a fact that we all know religion is a scam. Obviously Silverman doesn`t know the difference between fact and opinion.
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Male 493
I think this summarizes this atheist`s view of religion.

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Male 491
Just STFU already.O`Reilly is a loud mouthed bully and a pucking moron imho.
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Male 591
What did you expect? It`s the Fox Comedy Channel.
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Female 249
why do people go on his show. that guy never lets anyone talk.
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Female 474
wow i`m really disappointed in this guy for not being able to at least briefly explain how tides work, that`s like high school earth science :P
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Male 798
Also, Crakr, I don`t think this has anything to do with "typical liberals", since liberal ‚ athiest and conservative ‚ religious. I think this is a matter of retards.

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Male 228
O`Reilly squirms around like a worm, Won`t answer Silverman`s questions, tries to dodge and weave. It`s like trying to pin jello to a wall.

Typical conservative, they`ll punch you in the nose then tell you they didn`t. Even if you get them cornered and they admit they punched you in the nose, they`ll say you deserved it and won`t apologize.
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Male 118
@regediT
"I love how Kozy is a complete FAIL of a troll. Go back to troll school, troll nub."

If I was trolling you wouldn`t know it.

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Male 10,855
[quote]Silverman squirms around like a worm, Won`t answer O`Reilly`s questions, tries to dodge and weave.[/quote]

Oh yeah because dealing with O`Reilly`s constant interruptions is dodging.</sarcasm> O`Reilly`s also putting words into the athiest`s mouth.
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Male 2,419
He`s not dodging anything Crakr, he can`t manage to get out a sentence before O`Reilly cuts him off with a new question. O`Reilly keeps redirecting before he can answer anything and he only ever `dodges` to try to get back on topic. It`s pretty clear neither of these men should be involved in television broadcasts.
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Male 798
This is the worst guy to represent an athiest point of view. Ever.

Explaining how tides work could easily have shut O`Reilly down early, but this guy was just like "WELL ITS NOT A GUY ON MOUNT OLYMPUS HERP DERP."
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Male 336
is this supposed to be an interview or a monologue? i`m confused.
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Male 17,511
Silverman squirms around like a worm, Won`t answer O`Reilly`s questions, tries to dodge and weave. It`s like trying to pin jello to a wall.

Typical liberal, they`ll punch you in the nose then tell you they didn`t. Even if you get them cornered and they admit they punched you in the nose, they`ll say you deserved it and won`t apologize.
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Male 605
ha wow arguing a never ending conflict...retarded...No God!!!
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Male 2,419
@xXKaryXx
it`s not only catholics that have something that says that
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Male 716
I love how Kozy is a complete FAIL of a troll. Go back to troll school, troll nub.
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Male 304
tides go in... tides go out... ITS THE MOON!!! and its gravitation powers over the planet...

come on...tides go in ... tides go out...LOL

i was hopping he said something like the earth its the center of the universe...the sun moves arround the earth...the earth is flat...there are seamonsters and ciclops and werewolfs and vampires...

XXI century and thats what i´ve been missing on tv...

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Female 23
Gotta love Bill O`Reilly for making up numbers and failing to understand basic physics.
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Male 3,894
dratin` tides, how do THEY work?

Also... yeah, I agree. There are probably a lot of atheists in church-- or at the very least skeptics. They take part because it`s a family thing, it`s a social thing. It`s expected and it`s tradition. People take part in Christmas even though they don`t believe in Santa. It`s just tradition.
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Female 635
@madest
not everyone who believes in god is catholic :]
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Female 635
lmao oh god this was funny xD
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Female 654
in not really religious but that is an insult. how can you call people sheep, or dull basicaly, and not find that offensive.
i dont want to see anyones religious billboard that includes catholic, muslim, or athiest. its the stupidest war ever concieved
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Male 558
Also, magnets; how the fook do they work?
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Male 335
I hope the invisible man in the sky gives Bill a heart attack soon. Then I will throw a party.
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Male 1,471
Punching bag or not, this guy handled it like a pro.. I would not have been able to contain the delightfully scornful laugh i just had.
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Male 10,338
"it`s not such a stretch to assume what God looks like."

It`s also not a stretch to say that God looks like Megan Fox either.
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Male 7,378
[quote]Never in the bible does it ever assert that God is an old man in a robe standing in the sky who hurls down lightning bolts.[/quote]
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Well, it does say that God created man in his image and since the Pope is old and white, sits on a throne in a guilded palace, wears a white flowing robe and carries a staff it`s not such a stretch to assume what God looks like.
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Male 1,016
Hello Mr. Kettle? Mr Pot here ...you are black!!!

Why would ANYONE even contemplate going on that show. He`s worse than Oprah ...you can`t get a word in edgewise ....." I am going to cut you off because I love the sound of my own voice la dee daa blah blah blah ....
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Male 900
Wow, I`ve never actually seen any Fox news, never bothered until now. What an idiot...
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Male 25,416
meh....
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Male 6,737
I`m glad I live in a forward thinking country and not some backwater like.... where is this? America? The leader of the western world? REALLY? YOU ARE pooTING ME!?
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Male 697
Wildcats - if God doesn`t work that way, well then he`s not really a God I want to be involved in. (floods, murdering, ridiculous rules aside)
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Male 748
Haha, Fox News is so bad. Do people really watch that?
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Male 1,547
I`m going to laugh when this guy retires and admits that he was a satirist the whole time.
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Male 237
MattPrince:

That is EXACTLY what I said! Just because this guy believes there is no God does not make it a FACT. It might be a fact to him but without hard evidence it is simply his BELIEF not a universal truth.

MikeyNiv:

I`m not even going to begin to say that I know whether or not that is true simply because there is no way to know until you reach that point. In my flawed human thinking, I would think that someone would need to acknowledge the existence of someone before you go asking them for something. Kind of like a situation where no one pays attention to a kid in school but then they find out his parents are loaded so then they all want to be his friend.

But again, that my flawed mind. It is ultimately up to God who gets into Heaven and He has His reasons.
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Male 118
I just don`t understand why atheists are so fixated about God.

Dear atheists,
GET. A. LIFE.
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Female 2,525
Yeah! And what about this "photosynthesis" poo? EXPLAIN THAT, SCIENCE!
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Male 2,419
@DiegoDeFuego
I know no christian who doesn`t cut the hair that grows from his temples. All of them must be going to hell but the church, which is lead by men who also get their hair cut, takes their money. If the God their book teaches you to worship exists then all these people are going to hell and the followers are being scammed out of their money. If that God doesn`t exist all these followers are being scammed out of their money.

It`s a scam.
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Male 2,220
I`m pretty sure Dave Silverman knows how tides work and he did very well not answering that question - as he said, it doesn`t matter if you know how it works or not - not knowing does not require that a god did it.

@wildcats, belief does not equate to a fact.

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Male 197
o`really gets owned again. this guy is just a glutton for punishment.
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Male 1,610
I agree with Keepay: this guy dropped the ball. Bill`s whole tactic is to keep guests arguing about inflammatory points that never lead anywhere and end the show pre-maturely when they start making valid points.

Silverman could have used the opportunity to debunk a however common myth some people have: that being religious means you were duped and that makes you a moron. Instead we got 5 minutes of pointless arguing where all you learned from this guy is that atheist.org`s agenda is to draw atheists out of their hiding places, which is a lame agenda of which they`re doing a piss-poor job with those billboards. If they`re honest about their agenda then do they really think they`re gonna solve anything by pointing out what their target audience already knows?
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Male 239
Never in the bible does it ever assert that God is an old man in a robe standing in the sky who hurls down lightning bolts.

And just because you can quote or show a video of a christian being stupid doesn`t mean Christianity is stupid.

It`s really annoying how most arguments against Christianity are either straw men arguments or ad hominem. Just because you`re "fighting ignorance" or whatever you think you`re goals are doesn`t mean you are immune to being ignorant yourself.
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Male 697
@Wildcat
I`d like to believe that if I`m a good person and an atheist, God will still let me into heaven, rather than a person who just says they believe in God to escape hell but in reality aren`t as good a person or even that religious.
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Male 40,751
"Thor on Mount Olympus" - lolz! It was even funnier because it slipped right past O`Reily.
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Male 2
Why would believing in a god make you a better person?
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Male 1,292
Tides... I`ve never thought about that, holy poo... I think I was just made a believer.

*Googles `how tides work`* Oh wait, nvm.
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Male 237
(cont.)

That isn`t to say atheists cannot be good people.
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Male 237
I-IS-BORED: Where in my statement did I say that he can`t put up those signs? No where.

He has the right to say what he wants just like everyone else. My point is that if you assert something as fact then you have the burden of proof to show evidence in this case he cannot. If your life experiences and logic lead to you a certain view then that is what you believe.

It goes both ways. Your belief may be a fact to you but outside of that, if you cannot show hard evidence then it cannot be proven as a universal truth.

In this case, there is no way to prove or disprove there is no God but through my life experience and logic, I believe there is a God and that is a fact *to me*.

Let me just assert this, believe in God and believe you are saved and you die, but there is no God, what have you gained except being a better person in this life. If you don`t believe in God and die and it turns out there is a God...well I guess you`re in a world of crap.
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Male 1,178
wow, just wow. Americans watch this crappy news channel? I thought the BBC was bad at times, but this just takes the piss. Isn`t news supposed to be informative? How is inviting a guest to your show and then talking over every point they try to make informative?

This just makes me angry. Not to mention the fact that he`s a drating idiot, `tides go in, tides go out, no one can explain it` - eerrr, yes they can, it`s called the gravitational pull of the moon.
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Male 508
Bill O`Reilly is the perfect christian spokesman. Completely oblivious to how the world works, and tries to use that to prove god. Athiests need more morons like him fighting for christianity. lol
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Male 78
@scottSerious:

YOU CAN`T DISPROVE HIS STATMENT!!!



That`s the usual defence religious people use, don`t they?
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Male 259
People who use the argument that God can only be understood by that which remains unsolved are ridiculous (especially Christians). If God ordered the cosmos, which He did according to Christian Scripture, then He should be understood through things that can be explained. The Christian God is a God of order, not chaos. Hence, the more we understand about the natural order of the universe the more we should understand the nature of God. But that makes too much friggin` sense for most religious persons to understand.

I know you`ll all probably hate on me. 1.Because I think science gives us deeper understanding of God (sorry Atheists and Agnostics), and 2.Because I insinuated that most Christians are rather stupid (especially concerning what their own Scripture says).
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Male 2,419
@auburnjunky
No, he clearly said "You can`t explain that. You can`t explain it." when referring to the tide.

@Wildcats2008
If he can`t put up those signs then nobody can put up a sign that says we`re going to hell if we don`t attend their services to worship their invisible man. There`s way more of those across the US than their are atheist signs. Please take your double standard and shove it up your ass.
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Male 161
That`s no moon... that`s God!
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Male 7,378
[quote]Whatever you think of O`Reilly, he`s not that dumb.[/quote]
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You`re right. He`s just a pinhead.
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Male 705
He brought a guy on his show, not because he wanted to talk to him, but because he didn`t understand his goals and ideals.
DUMB. F*CK.

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Male 190
That unbelievable how the hell can both of them not know the gravitational pull of hte moon causes the tides. I mean I learned that in the 3rd grade.
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Male 237
This is how I see it.

This guy asserts that it is a FACT that there is no God. To me if you assert something as fact then you have evidence to prove that it is true. In this case it is impossible for him to prove absolutely that there is no God. If he wants to put his faith in whatever he puts his faith into that`s fine but asserting something as fact that is impossible to prove is irresponsible.

As far as insulting people. Heck yeah he insulted people who attend religious services, just not straight out. If I told you going to a psychic was a scam but you wanted to go because everyone else was, then I`m basically calling you a sheep with no backbone that is too stupid to think for themselves.

Bottom line, you can`t prove or disprove there is a God. I`ve learned over the years that I can`t trust anything on this planet and if I didn`t have something better to believe in, I might as well die. Also, to me, there would be no reason for anything if this life is
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Male 5,314
@auburnjunky

prove it
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Male 15,510
Oh the humanity!
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Male 10,338
You people that honestly believe that Bill doesn`t know what causes tides are stupid.

OFCOURSE he knows! It`s a metaphor!
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Female 327
Has Bill O`Reilly never heard of a couple of things called the MOON and GRAVITY!!! I`m suprised Dave Silverman wasn`t able to give him an answer, although I`m going to guess that he was blind-sided by the question and his mind went momentarily blank.
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Male 4
THE MOON IDIOTS, ITS THE MOON THAT CONTROLS THE TIDE!!!!! GRAVITY OF THE MOON!!!! gah i hate bill o`reilly
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Male 1,378
atheist: no god lol
christian: PROVE THERES NO GOD (lolwut)
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Female 290
His entire argument: if you don`t understand something it means that God exists... what an idiot.
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Male 1,678
Both bill O`Reilly and the atheist guy come across as complete idiots in this video, not unlike a lot of the people who will comment here. If someone believes in God, then drating let them believe in God. If someone does not believe in God, then drating let them not believe in God. How hard would that be?
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Male 10,338
@EntrE: Yep lol.
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Male 313
This is a triple winner for ya. You can bash Fox, O`Reilly and religion all in one topic!

To cool.
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Male 309
I don`t accept this at face value. Whatever you think of O`Reilly, he`s not that dumb. He`s also made this same strange comment before on a youtube video. My guess what he`s really saying that science can`t explain the CONSISTENCY of tidal forces, but that isn`t much better. I`d like an explanation from the horses mouth. If he really believes that science can`t explain this stuff, then he`s an f`n idiot, which bothers me because I`m a conservative as well, and don`t want the dolt representing me or my ideas.
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Male 535
well auburnjunky, we can go on with this forever. you will always ask "and how did that happen? and how did that happen? and how did that happen?" like a little kid that doesn`t stop asking "why?", and THAT is what you wanna make your point with?
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Male 1,256
Good golly, listen to how Bill O`Reilly keeps repressing Dave every time he tries to say something that will either disprove his points or make Dave sound rational and sane. He doesn`t even let the guy explain himself. It`s another form of damned censorship.
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Male 130
I`d like to hear this guy. It`s a shame that Bill, when confronted with someone he doesn`t agree with, can never SHUT THE F*CK UP FOR 2 SECONDS.
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Male 5,194
tl;dw - salient part at 1:52.
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Male 535
oh and just because religion allegedly, which i really don`t agree on, but even if it does, then it can still be a scam. some people say that scientology helps people, but almost everybody here will probably agree with me that it causes nothing but harm and that it CLEARLY is a scam. point is, it doesn`t differ from any other religion!!!
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Male 64
Bill O`Reilly is an idiot. That is obvious enough. How many statements has O`Reilly made that were clearly insults, but he just tried to pass them off as something else? (Answer: ALL of his statements.)

I am disappointed with this atheist, too, though. First of all, if you aren`t smart enough to understand science, what is the point of being atheist? Second, OBVIOUSLY religious people DON`T think that religion is a "scam," and what explanation of the universe would you like to convince them of if you don`t even understand basic science?
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Male 10,338
"so what, you wanna hear the entire story of how the moon formed? look it up!"

I know how the moon formed. A planet sized asteroid hit the earth and the debris from that collision got caught in the Earth`s gravitational field, and coalesced.

What set those events in motion?
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Female 290
Wow... just wow. Bill... please stop talking.
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Male 3,060
i paused it at 2:08 and this guy makes a funny face.
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Male 543
NOT AN INSULT IF ITS TRUE!!!!!!!!! BILL IS A MORON
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Female 426
@auburnjunky, Religion and faith are two completely different things. You can have faith and not have religion and vise versa.
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Male 535
@auburnjunky
so what, you wanna hear the entire story of how the moon formed? look it up!
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Female 426
@auburnjunky, Religion and faith are two completely different things. You can have faith and not have religion and vise versa.
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Male 10,338
@madest: Oh I understand it just fine, but it has to start somewhere.

In the end though, this guy has 1st amendment rights the same as everyone else, so let him have it.

Faith is not a scam though. It helps some people.
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Male 7,378
@AJ that`s a silly point of fact. You`re making the same mistake Bill O does. Since you don`t understand it, it must be a diety.
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Male 975
I don`t understand women; so God can`t be a man?
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Male 32
1st amendment Billo, get over it
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Male 10,338
Bill was right for once.

The tides go in, the tides go out. What causes that? The moon`s gravitational effect. Who created the moon`s gravitational effect?????????
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Male 39,913
the whole "tides" thing is a silly ridicule of Bill. He was making a point. Typical Lebretard nit-picking.

That said, if the Chrsties can have billboards saying it IS so, the we can have buildboards saying it AIN`T so.

`nuff said.
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Male 1,108
I`d like to see Bill interview Kanye West.
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Male 1,587
I actually agree with Bill that it is a "statement of belief, not a statement of fact"

and I really feel the Atheist dude really dropped the ball by not immediately explaining "tides- how to they work?" to poor dumb Bill
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Male 14
I dont understand how this video got here... God must have put it here....
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Male 3,332
Fact: The tides come in and out because of the gravitational pull of the moon on the water.

Fact: The moon moves around the Earth at a (nearly) constant rate and direction.

Fact: This makes the tides predictable and (nearly) constant.

Fact: Your lack of understanding of this does not automatically mean that there is a God. If you believe that because you don`t understand something that it is proof of a God, you`re wrong.

Fact: The Bible tells of the formation of the Earth and Moon and gives credit to God.

Fact: We have a scientific understanding of how the Moon was formed, and how it came to be in orbit around the Earth.

Fact: Your belief in one of these two stories nothing to dis-prove the one you don`t believe in.
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Male 167
... no one knew the god of the seas make tides go in and out???!?! WHAT IS THIS. THIS. IS. MADNESS!!!
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Male 762
Fair and balanced, America! See how they had an atheist on their show? What swell reporting.

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Male 541
O`Reilly is the master of all trolls
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Male 92
Bill O`Reilly is a jacka$$. He`s asking questions but as soon as the guy answers, he interrupts.
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Male 7,378
Shhhh Don`t tell Bill that the Moon is God.
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Female 426
I cannot stand any type of extremist, be it Muslim, Catholic, Christian, Atheist, etc etc. Nobody gives a poo about what you believe in, so don`t go and blast it out for the world to see just because you have a superiority complex. I have my own personal beliefs and opinions, and so does every other person in this world. Only difference is, I could give two poos if you agree with me and won`t argue with you over something that is obviously not worth arguing over.

Idiots.
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Male 1,931
Religion is, in fact, a man made creation. Any belief in a deity is based off of faith (the belief in something without evidence). All atheists are saying is that there is just as much evidence for a creator as there is for leprechauns. How is that so hard to understand?
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Male 493
This guy really dropped the ball on this one. If he didn`t go with the "invisible man in the sky" argument or actually BOTHERED to explain how the gravity of the sun and moon influence tides, he would have nailed it. Instead he was sounding about as logical as Bill in his own statements.
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Male 364
Both of them are lunatics and proved it through the course of this segment.
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Male 498
lol bill is so funny xD
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Male 133
Lol, magic man does the tides!
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Male 697
i see a religious argument coming...
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Male 7,378
Link: Tides, How Do They Work? [Rate Link] - Bill O`Reilly doesn`t understand tides and that`s proof enough to him that there is a God.
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