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    Kim... Female 13-17
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    January 21, 2011 at 7:44 am
    Link: The Truth About 10 US Presidents - And I`m sure the others have tons of skeletons they don`t want let out of their closets too.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 7:48 am
    So the presidents who lie about the reasons for war get a pass?
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    hiptothemax4 Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 7:50 am
    I love America :) A nation built on strong values such as incest, drug use, adultery, homosexuality, racism, and murder!
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    Wundt Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 7:51 am
    Washington grew `hemp`, that is not the same as marijuana.

    Also, why is Clinton there for adultery, fully 1/2 of the USA presidents were known to have mistresses, including G.H.W. Bush.
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    Wundt Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 7:52 am
    Also, where is Nixon?
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 7:52 am
    Why im not surprised
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    NitroJunkie Male 70 & Over
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    January 21, 2011 at 7:58 am
    No little Bush? He`s a war criminal, for cryin` out loud!
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:01 am
    There are still some states where you can marry your first cousin (CA for example), so the accusation of incest is not really true.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:01 am
    AMERICA, F UCK YEAH!!!!
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:03 am
    My god, you Bush haters just won`t let it go.
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    dazza666 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:08 am
    The fact that Homosexualiy is comparible to the other acts on this graphic says more about the author than Abraham Lincoln.

    Also, and correct me if I`m wrong, but I thought incest was marrying your sibling, marrying a cousin is just "frowned apon".

    And I`m sure you will correct me if I`m wrong.
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    Oldfrt Male 50-59
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:08 am
    SCfan: "My god, you Bush haters just won`t let it go. "

    Remember, that was a whole lot of Kool Aid they drank, it`ll take a while to get it out of their system.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:10 am
    "My god, you Bush haters just won`t let it go."

    sure wont

    innocent people are dying :| why should we let that go...

    the people we are fighting dont even have proper weapons or ANY vehicles (helicopters, tanks, ect) so why are we still over there looking for something that cant possibly be there anymore...
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    i8mygoldfish Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:10 am
    This is stupid.
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    UrusaiBaka Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:16 am
    Washington was back when people grew marijuana ALL the time. It was a normal crop for people to grow a LOT of. They didn`t always smoke it back then, they actually used it for other things. Once people started getting high too much, they stopped growing it. History of Weed
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    madest Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:19 am
    My god, you Bush haters just won`t let it go.
    -----------
    The fact that republicans "let it go" says more about them than it does us.
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    bzzd Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:19 am
    This is lame. None of these presidents did anything wrong `cept for nixon and clinton. JFK had prescriptions, Teddy hated Cuba (like every other presdient for the last 100 years), abe wasnt gay, duels were a way of settling things in Johnson`s day, Jefferson can have sex with whoever he wants to (sorry racists), and Washington wasn`t breaking a law or going against any sort of stigma that existed by gorwing hemp... and marrying their 2nd cousins isnt even illegal in parts of USA today. The stupid NWO-implying symbol at the top gave this pic away before I even read it.
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    jib Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:19 am
    Wait did Lincoln actually have sex with his bodyguard cause the way it`s worded seems to me like Lincoln shared a bed with another guy, which probably doesn`t make you gay
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    ilurk Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:24 am
    Sleeping in the same bed with the same sex does not make you a homosexual. Plus these aren`t shocking, and some were natural for the given time period.
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    Lixa123 Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:26 am
    OH NO COUSINS

    COUSINS MARRYING.

    meh.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:29 am
    Today I`d have no qualms with anyone in the world owning a Marijuana farm.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:30 am
    Remember, that was a whole lot of Kool Aid they drank, it`ll take a while to get it out of their system.

    Well someone`s been drinking Bush`s Kool-Aid.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:32 am
    Ummm didn`t Wikileaks report that nerve gasses were indeed found in Iraq. Not a nuke but still a WMD an I think a violation of the Geneva convention.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:36 am
    Ummm didn`t Wikileaks report that nerve gasses were indeed found in Iraq.

    None that were not already documented by the UN and/or manufactured before Bush Sr.`s invasion.

    -OR-

    They were smuggled in AFTER Bush Jr.`s invasion.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:36 am
    "Ummm didn`t Wikileaks report that nerve gasses were indeed found in Iraq. Not a nuke but still a WMD an I think a violation of the Geneva convention."

    is that because we took them there? :|
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:40 am
    Seriously if those "stockpiles" were an issue Bush Jr. could`ve instead waged an invisible war in Iraq to dispose of them, would`ve been exponentially cheaper too, and we "Bush haters" wouldn`t be. But no, he had to send in an ENTIRE ARMY.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:45 am
    Bush had a news conference where he announced to the world that Hans Blix didn`t know what he was doing...
    Where`s the news conference apologizing to Dr. Blix?
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    Fuego Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:45 am
    Why the hell is homosexuality held in a comparable light to murder, drug abuse, incest, organized crime, and drug trafficking?

    At best, this infographic is full of half-truths and popular allegations purported as facts.
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    culberto Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:46 am
    @ilurk
    "Sleeping in the same bed with the same sex does not make you a homosexual. Plus these aren`t shocking, and some were natural for the given time period."

    Interesting how morality can change so much in the space of a couple of hundred years. Who knows, maybe in 2211 we`ll all be on heroin prescriptions to help us cut back on f u c k ing the cat.
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    ViiZedek Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:47 am
    where i live there is a saying that is: `cousin is not a relative`
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    xavroche Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:50 am
    I really like how Jefferson`s fault was having sex with his SLAVES. It`s ok to own people, to whip them and force them to work themselves to death.... but having sex with them, man, that`s just crossing a line...

    Also even if the Washington thing is true, and he did have marijuana plantations (probably only for hemp) why would this even matter since marijuana wasn`t even illegal at the time..
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    Samuelsoon Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:52 am
    George Washington actually grew hemp, which is a different strain of the marijuana plant. Not smokable. Hemp was actually the largest cash crop around in the time of Washington.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:54 am
    Don`t get me wrong I`m not a Bush fan but if we had to bring the nerve gas there where did Sadam get it to use on the kurds way before his presidency? Also why did they wait to release this info till after his presidency?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:56 am
    that`s the "dark side" ? they did a lot worse.

    What andrew jackson did to the indians was mass murder.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:59 am
    @McGovern

    The Halabja Poison gas attack happened during Reagan administration. Yes Saddam had a program back then, but was rebuilding infrastructure during the Bush Jr. administration. Bush Sr. put a major halt on on Saddam`s WMD program.
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    valtes Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:00 am
    sorry Washington one is wrong at the time marijuana was not illegal so if he did anything to be on that list "drug dealing" is not it
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:01 am
    What? You have some state where marry cousin is legal????
    Now i understand lot of things.
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    Frankii Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:01 am
    Erm, you are aware that for hundreds of years marrying your cousin was absolutely fine? Just look at Mansfield Park (or don`t, I wouldn`t blame you, it`s a terrible book)
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:02 am
    "Don`t get me wrong I`m not a Bush fan but if we had to bring the nerve gas there where did Sadam get it to use on the kurds way before his presidency? Also why did they wait to release this info till after his presidency?"

    not really sure if we took it or not i was just sayin :P

    im just sayin the ONLY weapons we`ve seen are AK-47s (dont those break alot?) and themselves (till they go "pop") we have no reason to still be over there since they should all be dead by now anyway...
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    Fuego Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:04 am
    Wundt: Washington grew `hemp`, that is not the same as marijuana.

    "modern" industrial hemp (high in CBD, low in THC) and marijuana (high in THC, low in CBD) are both in the genus cannabis. The term `hemp` referred to the fibers of any plant belonging to the cannabis genus.

    Washington`s own diary mentions that he separated the male plants from the females before pollination. This was thought to increase the quality and/or quantity of resin (hashish) from the plants.

    Separating the males from the females serves no purpose if one is only interested in cultivating the fibers for rope, etc.

    Personally, I don`t have a problem with Washington growing hemp for its pharmacological applications or even if he wanted to get all of Virginia stoned out of its gourd.
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    Omphaloskept Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:05 am
    Washington did not own a marijuana farm, he grew hemp -- for industrial uses. While it was cannabis, it was not the kind that gets you high.
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    ilurk Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:18 am
    @culberto

    Well in most parts of the US some of these activities are illegal/ frowned upon NOW. So how would we go from things like this being done, to being illegal, to screwing our animals? Did you ever play "Guess the pattern" when you were little?
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    DamienLike Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:24 am
    You should add George Bush there.
    Under the heading "Illiterate".
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    Concetra Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:35 am
    LOL 3 way with Monica and a Cigar.
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    CaptainPabst Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:40 am
    "You should add George Bush there.
    Under the heading "Illiterate"."

    Even better, mass murderer.
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:52 am
    Abe was gay? Wow
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    connor53 Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:52 am
    Clinton was an adulterer? Who knew?
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    Inter237 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:55 am
    Knew most of these. Minus the Teddy Roosevelt and maybe JFK. Although not all of these can ever be proven.
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    EntrE Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 10:04 am
    WTF?! "Dark side of the U.S. presidency" - Homosexual??? why the F*CK is homosexuality in a list about people`s dark side! that`s just f*cking wrong!!!
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    mclovin973 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 10:24 am
    Lol Abe got murdered by an ex lover
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    kittehdee29 Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 10:28 am
    Abe had a family. Even if he was secretly gay, I wouldn`t blame him for sharing a bed with a bodyguard. Buchanan, now... He lived with an Alabama senator who was often referred to as "Miss Nancy" and was never married.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    January 21, 2011 at 10:37 am
    Lincoln had the manic-depression.

    Clinton was also a purgeror, his under-oath lies were what the impeachment was actually about.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 21, 2011 at 10:43 am
    Clinton was also a purgeror, his under-oath lies were what the impeachment was actually about.

    `Impeachment` is a trial.
    He was found Not Guilty.
    ergo.... not a purgeror

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    fuzzgrimly Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2011 at 10:49 am
    @EntrE
    Because drattards on this board think that they should give a poo what other people want to do with their genitals.
    Somehow they think its their business to criticize sexual choices. It must be because they have no sexual choices of their own.
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    addler Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2011 at 10:50 am
    "WTF?! "Dark side of the U.S. presidency" - Homosexual??? why the F*CK is homosexuality in a list about people`s dark side! that`s just f*cking wrong!!!"

    and it drating begins...
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    CoyoteKing Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 10:51 am
    Abe is a homosexual for sleeping in the same bed as his bodyguard? It doesn`t say he had sex with him. This proves nothing.
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    IseeingI2I Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 11:08 am
    now if only people understood that even COCAINE was legal up until early mid 1900s so theoretically what washington owned was a perfectly acceptable farm and i do believe it should be decriminalized because nothing bad happens from smoking weed its not a gateway drug it doesnt kill you and you dont run over little girls on tricycles pulling out of a local fast food joint
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    msieg007 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 11:29 am
    I don`t think it counts as murder if it was a duel.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 11:49 am
    Lots of falsehoods in this one.

    Washington grew Hemp, not merijuana (yes, there is a difference) and there is no evidence that he smoked or sold the buds.

    Adam`s married Abigail Smith his third cousin, That`s no where close to incest.

    In Jackson`s time duels were not considered murder, However those times did change.

    Lincoln was not a homosexual and had 3 children by his wife, all of whom died unfortunately.

    Teddy Roosevelt may have been a racist, However at that time most white men were, by today`s standards.

    Eleanor Roosevelt, Was Theodore`s niece, Franklin and Eleanor were 5th cousins, Again not incest.

    Nixon`s only `ties` to organized crime, was in an anti-drug effort, Which I might add included making Elvis Presley an honorary deputy.

    As for the remaining 3, those are true.
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 12:03 pm
    "Abe is a homosexual for sleeping in the same bed as his bodyguard? It doesn`t say he had sex with him. This proves nothing"

    Abe Lincoln, the inventor of "No homo", hetero-ish blokes of the world salute you.
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    Locke357 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 12:21 pm
    Andrew Jackson participated in 13 duels? That`s not a darker side, that`s a BADASS side!
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    culberto Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 12:22 pm
    Hi ilurk,

    I honestly have no idea what point you`re trying to make. Have a good evening anyway.

    /Andrew

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    button_guy Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 12:51 pm
    Andrew Jackson once fell into a pit of lava... he almost drowned.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    CJ, Why do you insist on keeping your eyes closed to the failings of republicans? You remember every detail of every democrat president and what you don`t know you Google.

    I suggest you pull your head out of that republican sand and type "Nixons mob ties" into Google and see what you come up with. Afterall he was one of your own and a crook.
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    betardfooser Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    herp derp, this is standard info. Where is the real dirt like "the Bush family are fourth dimensional lizard people" and the like?
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 1:05 pm
    During Lincoln`s time it was a lot more acceptable for men to share a bed.
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 1:07 pm
    USA USA
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    billzone Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 1:09 pm
    they forgot about almost all of them were indian killers
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    tvremote Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 1:12 pm
    I heard George Washington once held an opponent`s wife`s hand. In a jar of acid. At a party.
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    PringleMan Female 13-17
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    January 21, 2011 at 1:34 pm
    so sharing a bed with another guy makes you a homo!?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 1:37 pm
    madest: Why do you insist that every republican ever elected is evil ?

    Have you been bent so far to the left that you have nothing good to say about any republican ?

    I swear if you were any more narrow-minded you`d be as transparent as cellophane.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    I voted for Reagan smart guy. These were your words: Nixon`s only `ties` to organized crime, was in an anti-drug effort, Which I might add included making Elvis Presley an honorary deputy. Turns out once again you shooting your mouth off authoritatively when in fact you have no clue.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    madest: Yeah sure, That`s why he signed the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970. Because he was sooooo linked to organized crime.

    That false rumor was started because Nixon used Murray Chotiner as a campaign adviser. Might I add many of Obama`s advisers have even shadier connections. So if you`re going with `Guilt by association` then it should be a two-way street.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    January 21, 2011 at 2:19 pm
    Silly Australian little wahine!

    First - You left out the genocide of the Cherokees and his other slaughters of SE Native Americans during his illustrious career as an Indian Fighter.

    Second - The Cubans are not a race.

    Now let`s see you do an expose on all those saintly PM`s of Australia!
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2011 at 2:28 pm
    This is just dumb, disrespect to the previous greats
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    January 21, 2011 at 2:36 pm
    BTW that post was on Andrew Jackson
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    sawdusty Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 2:49 pm
    What, no child molesters, wife beaters or all `round asshats.
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    trashidea Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 3:00 pm
    andrew jackson also ordered genocide on all the indians in the land immediately west of the united states, but yeah he did also kill one white guy
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    Trypno Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 3:00 pm
    George Washington was a hemp farmer in general, meaning he grew hemp for all purposes from clothing, to rope, to paper, to food, to medicine etc. It wasn`t any big secret, Hemp was America`s largest cash crop at one time
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    kw112 Female 13-17
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    January 21, 2011 at 3:09 pm
    we`ve discussed all of these in history class. Abraham Lincoln COULD HAVE been homosexual. he wasnt very good with women BUT he was in bed with a man that was dead i believe. i think i remember it was a soldier or something and they were supposed to lie next to the person....it was a long time ago we talked about this but i think thats the gist of it.
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    His love making killed him. Respect.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    January 21, 2011 at 4:45 pm
    `Impeachment` is a trial.
    He was found Not Guilty.
    ergo.... not a purgeror
    100% WRONG @Bun-Master!
    Impeachment is a process to charge an elected official with misconduct while in office, OR for holding office invalidly.
    Mr Clinton admitted he`d purgored, and was granted blanket immunity for ALL further legal actions, AFTER he left office.
    He did it, was guilty, should have been removed from office but wasn`t. Period. Sour grapes now to wish for justice, eh?
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    Anger Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 4:47 pm
    Trypno you`ll be happy to know marijuana is still one of america`s largest cash crops despite it being illegal.
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    Nerd_Rage Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 5:27 pm
    This slander is so lame. whoever came up with this better NOT be American. Washington grew HEMP; marijuana is a BYPRODUCT of hemp. In the times of Andrew Jackson; Duels where the way to let GOD decide the outcome, both people with one shot/one sword/ whatever, The person that wins the duel was obviously chosen by GOD to do so. I-A-B get some facts right. JEEZ
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 5:37 pm
    haha Bill Clinton`s 3 way with a woman and a cigar, I do NOT want to know the participation of the cigar
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    Sinclair Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2011 at 7:21 pm
    Where`s Bush? He and his buddies created a war just to have the army defend their oil occupations in Iraq, and that`s just a small part of what he did.
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    dreaco Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:08 pm
    jendrian - it`s pretty much exactly what you think.
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    PaintedNInja Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:23 pm
    @ nerd rage

    Marijuana is not a byproduct of hemp. Paper, clothes, and other textiles are though. Marijuana and hemp both come from the Cannabis genus but they are very different plants. It`s ok most American don`t know that, that`s why it`s illegal to grow hemp. Also I`m not really from Africa I`m from Michigan just in case you`re wondering.
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    PaintedNInja Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:27 pm
    here I`ll dumb it down a little bit for you: that`s like saying house cats are a byproduct of lions. Sounds kinda stupid doesn`t it? Not trying to be a dick, just help you out and educate you a little bit.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:49 pm
    I`m down with drug-dealing and incest, but Cuban genocide? Really? You couldn`t have just gone with Puerto-Rico?

    On second thought, I see where he was going - if Teddy had succeeded, he would have prevented Bill from making the list. Speak softly and carry a big stick indeed!
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    bayoubengal Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    Lincoln wants to take you to a gay bar.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:17 pm
    Impeachment is a process to charge an elected official with misconduct while in office, OR for holding office invalidly.
    Mr Clinton admitted he`d purgored, and was granted blanket immunity for ALL further legal actions, AFTER he left office.
    He did it, was guilty, should have been removed from office but wasn`t. Period.
    Woah there cowboy. What was Clinton`s crime? He got an extra-marital blowjob off an intern. Wrong, but hardly a capital offence. Bush on the other hand led the western world into an illegal, unjustified and unwinnable war against a non-threat, had decided to do so long before he came to office, and fuelled the fire of the global jihadist movement against the west. For most of the civilised world, 9-11 was a tragedy. For Bush, it was an excuse.

    And let`s not even go into the economic wisdom of Clinton vs Bush.

    Now seriously, which one should have been removed from office?
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    tainteddeity Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:27 pm
    Yup. Being homosexual is on a par with murder, rape and organised crime.
    Ahuh.
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    Lobotomy Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2011 at 9:59 pm
    They act like Weed and having relations with black people is a bad thing.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 10:03 pm
    davymid: Perhaps you`ve forgotten, but I haven`t, Clinton ordered tomahawk missiles be fired at suspected al-qaeda camps in Afghanistan. He did so to take attention away from the Lewinsky scandal, aka `Wagging the dog`. Osama mentioned those missile attacks as impetus for al-qaeda planning further attacks on America including 9/11.

    It was Clinton`s actions that `fueled (now tell me that it`s spelled `fuelled` in Britain or Canada or wherever) the fire of the global jihadist movement`.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2011 at 10:40 pm
    Crakr, I guess we`ll have to agree to disagree. I`m of the opinion that a few missiles fired in the general direction of the enemy is of lesser magnitude than a massive intercontinental invasion for WMDs which didn`t exist.

    A word from the wise if I may, from someone who grew up in terrorist-ridden Northern Ireland. After the Bloody Sunday slaughter (to save multiple links, it was when British paratroopers shot a bunch of catholic civilians on a civil rights march), the head of the IRA was asked how they had gotten so many new recruits following the incident.

    The response? To paraphrase: "After Bloody Sunday, we didn`t have to actively recruit any more. Young men showed up in droves, willing to die for their cause".

    Now, you tell me. Which was the thing that drove millions of insurgents to fight against the west? Some missiles fired at bunkers, or a mass illegal invasion of a country on nothing but pretence?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2011 at 11:03 pm
    davymid: It`s what drove Osama and Khalid Sheik Mohammed to plan 9/11 and other attacks that was of principle concern. Since then we`ve gutted most of the al-qaeda leadership, and Obama declared victory in Iraq.

    As for the Afghanis, most of them have never even heard of 9/11 and when told about it don`t believe it even happened (According to a recent poll). I believe a lot of our problems there stem from elements within Pakistan.

    Btw, comparing US troops to the `Bloody Sunday` incident is really in bad taste. Our troops do a lot of good for the civilians there, and you just basically equated them mass murderers.
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    slayer50515 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 11:13 pm
    "Richard Nixon: Gang Member. Known Ties to organized crime."
    WOW THEY HAD ENOUGH EXPERTISE TO GOOGLE "Watergate"!!!! THEY MUST BE GENIUSES!

    Also:
    8 presidents down, 36 to go.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 11:24 pm
    Our troops do a lot of good for the civilians there, and you just basically equated them mass murderers.


    Oh yeah, because it`s a lot of good that the Iraqis can no longer walk the streets at night with any sense of security. Plus all of their institutions, culture, and history were blown apart in a matter of months.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 11:31 pm
    [quote">Btw, comparing US troops to the `Bloody Sunday` incident is really in bad taste.[/quote">




    No one`s blaming the troops, it`s the politicians. Unfortunately by Nuremberg standards the former are no less guilty.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2011 at 11:41 pm
    It was Clinton`s actions that `fueled (now tell me that it`s spelled `fuelled` in Britain or Canada or wherever) the fire of the global jihadist movement`.


    You can`t blame someone for providing motive for a crime.
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    January 22, 2011 at 1:21 am
    ha. you`re all dumb.
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    January 22, 2011 at 1:39 am
    @davymid replied:
    Woah there cowboy. What was Clinton`s crime? He got an extra-marital blowjob off an intern.

    Handys003 responded:
    His crime was he lied during the Kenneth Star investigation which was originally the White water probe. Then he lied under oath to a Federal Grand jury on the Paula Jones and Monica Lewinsky investigation. Lying under oath to a Grand Jury can bring you up on charges of perjury. He was then found not guilty by a Senate. The Senate can only weigh evidence to bring trial of the President in front of the House of Reps. That is what he was impeached for both perjuring and obstruction of Justice to a Federal investigation.
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    rammo34 Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2011 at 1:49 am
    So Lincoln`s gay because he slept with his bodyguard? Maybe he just wanted to feel safer while he slept.
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    SvampeBob Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2011 at 5:19 am
    haha Lincoln could say:
    hey, you want to have safe sex? I`ve got two bodyguard in my bed XD
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    DGbME Male 40-49
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    January 22, 2011 at 5:56 am
    ummmm, this are widely known things. Washington called it a `hemp` farm though. smart man that he was.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    January 22, 2011 at 6:24 am
    Cajun247: You can`t blame someone for providing motive for a crime.

    Why not ? That`s the standards liberals use to blame GW Bush.

    their institutions, culture, and history were blown apart in a matter of months.

    Actually we avoided bombing libraries, museums and such. In the chaos after Saddam fled there was widespread looting, arson, and vandalism by the Iraqis themselves.
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    mikeacello Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2011 at 7:22 am
    eh... homosexuality isn`t a dark side. And Andrew Jackson is a badass murderer.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    January 22, 2011 at 7:47 am
    @davymid:
    #1 Purgery: while under investigation for a pre-PotUS accusation, he swore UNDER OATH that he did NOT have sex with Lewinski. He did admit to the Flowers mistress thing tho.
    Purgery is a felony, a convicted felon cannot hold the Office of President (OotPotUS), m-kay?

    #2 Using the Presidential Powers inappropriately: If one were to use the OotPotUS to, say, cover up a crime (purgery) THAT would clearly be grounds for impeachment & removal. Example: Nixon. Clinton used Federal workers and govermnet agents to cover up his affair, which he`d lied about.

    Slam dunk, except they didn`t have the votes.
    It was NEVER about "sex" @davymid, it was always about his lies.
    There is no doubt he committed purgery, he even admitted it! Under oath! He just covered it up long enough to make it through the second term...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    January 22, 2011 at 7:53 am
    @crackr I don`t think @davymid`s comparing US troops to killers, he`s saying the results are the same.


    I agree that jihad started BEFORE 9/11 obviously, and it`s hard to blame BushII for that, but the left still does it! lolz! (not you @davymid, the MSM and left in general, eh?)

    Since the jihad attacked the towers in 1993, I`d say the actions of the West have little to do with Muslim Extremism`s origins. They hate us, pure & simple.
  111. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2011 at 7:54 am
    Why not ? That`s the standards liberals use to blame GW Bush.

    Not my standards, and I say absolutely ridiculous. You might as well blame the rapist for the destruction of his own house after he raped the arsonist`s daughter.


    In the chaos after Saddam fled there was widespread looting, arson, and vandalism by the Iraqis themselves.

    That`s usually what happens when there`s an invading army involved. Furthermore, there were Iraqis who made pleas to our forces to secure the various museums and libraries. All of which got ignored. A lot of their culture and history has been erased because of it.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2011 at 9:52 am
    5 Cats.

    You know US involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan happened before 9/11 right? I guess therefore that they had nothing to do with Muslims.

    Americans just hate us. Plain and simple.

    Is there a case yet where your arguments are not far greater indictments of yourself than those you seek to indict with them?

    Maybe spend a little less time bringing up Muslims in a thread about Presidents, and more in that other thread about how Republicans aren`t prejudiced.

    I`m just saying, you need more of the latter.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2011 at 10:07 am
    I actually genuinely don`t see how Crakr is not being dishonest in pretending the point of Davy`s comment was comparing US troops.

    I think you want people to think Davy is accusing heroes of something, when he wasn`t, because it lessens his point, which is 100% correct.

    After Iraq and Afghanistan, terror up over 700%.
    For you to be right, it requires Arabs or Muslims to be "invented" around circa 2003.
    If he`s right, it already makes perfect sense.

    I already posted about this, you lost that debate. You`re arguing via repetition of refuted points you either must know are wrong at this stage.

    It has been a year, I`ve been forced to school you repeatedly on every topic. Feel free to point to a topic you feel you`ve won.

    I maintain an open challenge to a formal debate you previously ran from if you feel otherwise.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2011 at 10:21 am
    Americans just hate us.

    Sweeping generalizations much?


    I don`t. I didn`t like the war anymore than you did Baalthazaaq, it was grand waste of money, lives, and talent. If you ask me it`s Crakr who has the worst notions of Muslims and de-closeted homosexuals (a different topic) I`ve ever heard.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    January 22, 2011 at 11:00 am
    Oh @Baalth! So FULL of FAIL!
    Muslim Extremism`s origins. They hate us, pure & simple.
    THEY in my post = Muslim Extremists. Are you suggesting they love the USA? Since in NO WAY did I suggest `all muslims` hate the USA:
    I actually genuinely don`t see how @Baalth is not being dishonest in pretending the point of @5Cats` comment was to accuse `all muslims` of hate
    Get that? good.
    You know US involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan happened before 9/11 right?
    Lets see, you`d be refering to the Soviet Union`s invasion of Afghanistan? Or perhaps the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait? Oh OBVIOUSLY the USA was behind both actions (in your delusions).

    I already posted about this, you lost that debate.
    You must be speaking to @crackr here, @Baalth because I continue to PWN you 3/4 of the time, see THIS POST for absolute proof of that.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31799 posts
    January 22, 2011 at 11:04 am
    Oh @Baalth? Insults =/= intelligent arguements.

    Is there a case yet where your arguments are not far greater indictments of yourself than those you seek to indict with them?

    Oh, the IRONY!

    (I`ll explain it for poor @Baalth`s sake, since he`ll doubtlessly not figure it out: He`s taking me to task for something HE MISUNDERSTANDS then accuses me of `indicting myself` for HIS misunderstanding of a perfectly obvious statement by me: Muslim Extremists hate the West)
  117. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    January 22, 2011 at 11:06 am
    Baalthazaq: After your willful ignorance of Moes marriage to a 6 year old, and after showing you seven sources written by different muslim scholars about it, and you still denying it. I don`t think you have much credibility left.

    I pointed out nearly a year ago how the muslim hate of Jews and Christians began, with grand mufti al Husseini. He was Hitler`s lapdog in the East during WWII. He also incited anti-Jewish riots by claiming the Jews were plotting to destroy the Al Asqa mosque in 1920. After the fall of Nazi Germany, Al Husseini fled to Cairo, Egypt in 1946 rather than face war crime charges for his actions in Yugoslavia. But he continued his operations. From there he helped form the Ba`ath party in Syria and Iraq, and the PLO.

    Under the muslim Nahmanides, there were 700 years of peaceful coexistence between Jews and muslims, until al Husseini came along.
  118. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    I pointed out nearly a year ago how the muslim hate of Jews and Christians began, with grand mufti al Husseini.


    That was just was one guy. Furthermore the Jews in Turkey, since the Ottoman Empire, have never been oppressed. Turkey even during WWII served as a means for Jews to escape Europe.
  119. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2011 at 12:25 pm
    different muslim scholars about it,


    As I recall it was different Muslim scholars who were quoting one source. So you should stop judging credibility.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    January 22, 2011 at 12:34 pm
    Cajun247: If by one source you mean the book written by Aisha herself, Yes that is from whom it originated. The sources I quoted were written by the scholars themselves at different times, with their own interpretations of it. The fact that they all agreed is rather significant.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2011 at 12:35 pm
    Here`s a link demonstrating Baal`s point
  122. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2011 at 12:41 pm
    If by one source you mean the book written by Aisha herself

    Source?
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
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    January 22, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    why are people arguing the truth in fiction?
    YOU ARE ALL CYLONS!
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    screwzlooose Male 30-39
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    January 22, 2011 at 1:00 pm
    "Americans just hate us. Plain and simple. "

    dude, im american, and i wouldn`t waste my time hating you if i was paid for it.

    now, some americans DO hate you and your whole race, but here`s a newsflash: we have a population near 300 million people, and for you to say "all 300 million of you do this" is almost the most retarded thing to come out of your mouth yet.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    January 22, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    Cajun247: Please look it up for yourself, You may believe it more if you do.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2011 at 1:09 pm
    Please look it up for yourself, You may believe it more if you do.

    I just did no where does it say that she wrote anything. The only mention of it is the Sahih al-Bukhari which by the way was compiled after generations of oral repetition. Not hard to imagine how details got skewed. Furthermore what exactly does this say about the character of Muslims worldwide (if that is the point)?
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    scienceguy47 Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2011 at 2:26 pm
    OMG I LOVE AMERICA.
    WOOWOOO GO USA USA USA!!!!!!!!!
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    panth753 Female 18-29
    9186 posts
    January 22, 2011 at 3:13 pm
    Who didn`t know about Bill?
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    SwayzeCrazy4 Male 13-17
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    January 22, 2011 at 5:49 pm
    Lincoln wasn`t gay. He didn`t hump the bodyguard, did he?
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    January 22, 2011 at 6:01 pm
    @Ball replied:
    Americans just hate us. Plain and simple.

    handys003 responds;
    That`s not true of all. Your just generalizing now.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2011 at 6:05 pm
    @5Cats

    You know US involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan happened before 9/11 right?



    Actually we`re the ones (Central Intelligence Agency) who put Saddam Hussein in power, and openly supported him.
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    SmilinSam Female 18-29
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    January 22, 2011 at 6:22 pm
    AMERICA! F*CK YEAH!
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    eggsnham Male 13-17
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    January 22, 2011 at 6:26 pm
    The worst thing on there was the Teddy Roosevelt thing. The other things were pretty tame, if true.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    January 22, 2011 at 8:47 pm
    @eggsnham

    How do you wipe out a fictional race? Think about it brah.
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    TheShgn2 Male 13-17
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    January 22, 2011 at 10:08 pm
    What`s wrong with Abraham Lincoln being homosexual?

    Also, how the hell does sleeping in the same bed as your bodyguard make you gay?
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    YoungOola Male 13-17
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    January 22, 2011 at 11:10 pm
    I like half of these.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    January 23, 2011 at 1:05 am
    Cajun247: The CIA did not put Saddam in power, He put himself into power by killing off everyone he didn`t like or suspected didn`t like him. He rose through the ranks of the Ba`athist party by killing people, pure and simple.
  138. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 23, 2011 at 2:03 am
    @CrakrJak

    So you`re telling me that the US did not help Saddam overthrow the Abd al-Karim Qasim in 1958 and 1963? Nor did we support the Iraqis in 1980 (Iran-Iraq war)?
  139. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 23, 2011 at 2:05 am
    Wow that`s news to me.
  140. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    January 23, 2011 at 10:47 am
    Cajun247: We did sell some arms to him during the iraq-iran war (but that did not put Saddam in power).

    As for Qasim`s coup of the royal family and the overthrow of his own subsequent communist linked government, the CIA was not involved.

    (Yes, there were rumors of CIA backing of Qasims overthrow since he was leaning communist but that`s hearsay, not proof.)

    You`d have been better off making the accusation of the US helping islamic jihad in Afghanistan (When Russia invavded them), At least there would`ve been proof of that.

    During the cold war, One side`s `terrorist` was the other side`s `freedom fighter`, but times have changed and so has the criteria we use to choose whom to help or hinder.
  141. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 23, 2011 at 3:24 pm
    As for Qasim`s coup of the royal family and the overthrow of his own subsequent communist linked government, the CIA was not involved.


    First you ignore my earlier assertions and now you`re just lying. Yes they were involved CrakrJak, the CIA gave them financial support. You`re such a poor judge of credibility you shouldn`t even bother.

    I`m done here.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2011 at 6:20 pm
    "so has the criteria we use to choose whom to help or hinder."

    So this is the real problem....who the hell have ask you to use YOUR OWN criteria to control the rest of the world? Can`t you just look inside your country and use your criteria inside your borders pls?
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    January 24, 2011 at 7:36 am
    Good ole Bill.
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    doopliss75 Male 13-17
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    January 24, 2011 at 7:39 pm
    not all of these are as bad as they sound-
    Marijauna was used to make ropes back then and for John Adams it wasn`t all that uncommon to marry your cousin back then
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    clazosmonkey Female 18-29
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    January 29, 2011 at 9:12 pm
    He wasn`t a president, but since we`re on the subject of "dark sides" of famous influential people: Martin Luther King sure had a pretty bad dark side too. snopes.com
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
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    January 31, 2011 at 2:09 pm
    why are people arguing the truth in fiction?
    YOU ARE ALL CYLONS!

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