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70 Responses to The Origins Of The Middle Finger

  1. Profile photo of piperfawn
    piperfawn Male 30-39
    4888 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 2:46 pm
    Link: The Origins Of The Middle Finger - Where does giving someone the finger come from? This chick Rachel gives us the facts. NSFWy.
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    MrsPoods Female 18-29
    547 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    Ew, she mispronounced phallic.
  3. Profile photo of Thesphinx
    Thesphinx Male 18-29
    353 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 3:17 pm
    The Russian way of flipping people off is way better. You use both your arms and cross them.
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    penguinazul Female 18-29
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    January 4, 2011 at 3:24 pm
    My cat got pretty offended as I was making the hand gestures along with the video. She kept giving me that, "Well, I never!" look.

    ...which could also be translated as, "If you stick your hand up in the air one more time, I will pounce on it and EAT IT! OM NOM NOM!"

    =D
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 3:33 pm
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
    9311 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 3:50 pm
    The ending was really cute. She`s adorable. XD
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    micadjems Female 18-29
    49 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    She sounds like a moron.
  8. Profile photo of GParadox
    GParadox Female 18-29
    737 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 3:57 pm
    YAWN. Trying to make a video about something just so you can try to show off your non-existent cleavage is sad.
  9. Profile photo of Concetra
    Concetra Male 18-29
    2051 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    I request you show us your tits.
  10. Profile photo of Angelmassb
    Angelmassb Male 18-29
    15511 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 4:21 pm
    Ross way is better
  11. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 4:29 pm
    I can`t be bothered to watch the video, so would someone tell me what she`s claiming as the origin?

    Nobody can be sure of the origin. It`s not the sort of thing that was noted down. Either it was considered inappropriate to mention such crude gestures at all (e.g. most of British history) or it was so commonplace that it wasn`t seen as being necessary to describe what it actually was (e.g. the Roman finger gesture they called digitus impudens).
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    coffeekoneko Female 18-29
    1008 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 4:33 pm
    She sounds like a 9 year old giving a school presentation.
  13. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 4, 2011 at 4:33 pm
    Well, I watched the video. She was so annoying that I clicked ahead past the intro and stopped with a sigh of relief when I saw her confidently stating that the origin was Rome and that was over 2000 years ago.

    Nearer 3000, but that`s a minor point.

    We don`t know what the Roman gesture was.

    We don`t know if that unknown Roman gesture was started by them or if they got it from an earlier society.
  14. Profile photo of ElMustache
    ElMustache Male 18-29
    1625 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 4:39 pm
    She`s hot but also annoying. The plight of hot chicks...
  15. Profile photo of BuzzKillingt
    BuzzKillingt Male 18-29
    47 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 4:54 pm
    id just like to clarify that the urban legend about the british archers and the french applies to showing someone the back of your hand and raising both your middle and index fingers in a `V` shape, the exact reverse of the famous chirchills `V for Victory` during world war 2. although she is right in saying that it is false.
  16. Profile photo of duffytoler
    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    January 4, 2011 at 5:02 pm
    Annoying goddamn C*NT!!!
    Takes FOREVER, turns out she doesn`t even know.
    Thinks she`s being cute.
    Barf.
  17. Profile photo of piperfawn
    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    January 4, 2011 at 5:09 pm
    _|_
  18. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 4, 2011 at 5:12 pm
    To clarify some more:

    The V-sign with the back of your hand towards the person you`re targetting is much older than the reverse, whether used as a peace sign or a victory sign.

    The origin of it is unknown. Although there`s no reason to think it was a response to threats from French soldiers and it`s not likely that such threats would be made (English and Welsh archers were commoners, so they would probably have just been killed), the origin might lie with English or Welsh archers. Those two fingers would be either side of the arrow when the bow was drawn. Or it might come from something else.
  19. Profile photo of handys003
    handys003 Male 50-59
    2402 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 5:15 pm
    Someone has been reading up on their Mental Floss magazine.
  20. Profile photo of BrimstoneOne
    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
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    January 4, 2011 at 5:31 pm
    it`s suppose to represent a dick, as in `your a dick` for cussing, but with your hand instead...
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    walkrunfly Male 18-29
    117 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 6:35 pm
    wow that is the most annoying video i`ve seen in a while. she talks so slow and repeating this like it`s a third grade oral report. not educating or entertaining
  22. Profile photo of con5150
    con5150 Male 30-39
    20 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 6:48 pm
    gotta love this girl....lmao
  23. Profile photo of SlothOfDoom
    SlothOfDoom Male 30-39
    2033 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 7:00 pm
    She talks really slowly and it is annoying.


    also, she said phallic like a moron. It is \ˈfa-lik\
  24. Profile photo of alikabul
    alikabul Male 18-29
    696 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 7:08 pm
    Did you guys see Michael Jacksons ghost at 2:28? Oh, and DAYUM that girl was annoying as hell!
  25. Profile photo of tn11
    tn11 Male 18-29
    1587 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 7:16 pm
    pretty annoying, but great eye candy. nice legs. =D
    4:02 how the hell did she get in my medicine cabinet!?
  26. Profile photo of piperfawn
    piperfawn Male 30-39
    4888 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 7:24 pm
    Males of IAB don`t you find this girl incredibly erotic?
  27. Profile photo of DrProfessor
    DrProfessor Male 18-29
    3894 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 8:37 pm
    Shut up. God. Sick of you.

    "Haha! I`m showing my middle finger on video! This is HILARIOUS!"
  28. Profile photo of ardystic
    ardystic Male 18-29
    1083 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 8:55 pm
    she picked her nose then fingered her mouth. ewwww! grossss! sicckkkkkk!
  29. Profile photo of Nebbie
    Nebbie Male 18-29
    864 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 9:08 pm
    She has a super annoying way of speaking... Also, "faylick."
  30. Profile photo of koolmole
    koolmole Male 18-29
    176 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 9:27 pm
    nice boobs, but she is hella annoying
  31. Profile photo of Fatninja01
    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25408 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 9:38 pm
    Silly not cool!
  32. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36215 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 9:48 pm
    my eyes glazed over and I quit listening
  33. Profile photo of Elriuhilu
    Elriuhilu Male 18-29
    275 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 10:07 pm
    she`s beautiful but I couldn`t really bear to watch this.
  34. Profile photo of janus_games
    janus_games Male 18-29
    294 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 10:12 pm
    did you get the impression she was reading that from a cue card?

    The... middle... finger... actually... goes... back...

    ugh.
  35. Profile photo of Slotherder
    Slotherder Male 30-39
    251 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 10:24 pm
    The urban legend is so much better. Pluck Yew, truth! Besides, everyone knows all obscenities originated in Rome.
  36. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 10:35 pm
    Hot for Nerds?
  37. Profile photo of I-IS-BORED
    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 10:57 pm
    Coulda been funny/interesting, but she sucks balls at speaking. But she`s probably better at that -^
  38. Profile photo of Ando
    Ando Male 13-17
    374 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 11:16 pm
    she soooooooooooooooooooooooo wears a vneck tanktop thing on purpose. She`s trying to be entertaining and exciting but it`s not working.
  39. Profile photo of Oldfrt
    Oldfrt Male 50-59
    747 posts
    January 4, 2011 at 11:52 pm
    Looks like someone just figured out how to use Wikipedia
  40. Profile photo of SlimPickins
    SlimPickins Male 18-29
    120 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 12:35 am
    hot for an ugly chick is what they mean.
  41. Profile photo of CallofKtulu
    CallofKtulu Male 18-29
    245 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 12:45 am
    She sounds like something I would hear on my answering machine where they pause to insert some original content into the gridded speech. I agree with I-IS-BORED, however misplaced his arrow is.
  42. Profile photo of TrustyMadman
    TrustyMadman Male 18-29
    144 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 12:46 am
    Wait... Boobalicious chickie kneeling in the living room touching her breasts with one hand and with the other sticking a (prostate) finger out vieing for my undivided attention... I`m sorry, I didn`t hear a friggin word she said.
  43. Profile photo of PoopNoodle
    PoopNoodle Male 40-49
    400 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 12:54 am
    Glorious boobage!!
  44. Profile photo of dooflotchie
    dooflotchie Female 30-39
    336 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 12:58 am
    Hehe...educational and funny!

    Now she said she does requests, so I have one:

    GET A F^#@IN` BACKGROUND FOR THAT FISH TANK!

    Thank you. That is all.
  45. Profile photo of dazza666
    dazza666 Male 18-29
    19 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 1:21 am
    The bit about the French and English is partly true, except we (English) raise two fingers (index and middle). It does indeed come from when the French used to chop off those two fingers of our longbow men.
  46. Profile photo of EdiMesic
    EdiMesic Male 18-29
    594 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 3:14 am
    Haha, she`s cute. Which probably makes this funnier
    than it really is.
  47. Profile photo of Samsquanch
    Samsquanch Male 30-39
    792 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 4:04 am
    ...um...hate to break it to you, dazza, but, no it doesn`t. Firstly, longbow men would have been worthless to the French army. There was no concept of keeping prisoners back then. Secondly, it takes three fingers to draw a bow, not two.
    There`s actually no reference to it appearing within the British culture until the 1970s.

    Citation
    And another citation
  48. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 4:56 am
    Samsqua..

    There was a strategy of taking prisoners, mostly toffs for ransom. Realising the true worth of a bunch of French toffs, Henry V ordered them all slaughtered during the battle of Agincourt.

    Three fingers are the recommended for drawing on a yew longbow, losing two of those three would be enough to stop you firing a strong bow right? The French probably didn`t realise you needed three cos they had tiny little girlie bows, which was why they were such crap archers ;)
  49. Profile photo of Helgarin
    Helgarin Male 18-29
    506 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 6:54 am
    The video is too slow.
  50. Profile photo of zombunny
    zombunny Female 18-29
    2525 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 7:40 am
    That was actually interesting, but way too slow.
  51. Profile photo of meepmaker
    meepmaker Male 30-39
    6694 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 8:24 am
    Slow. . . .
  52. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 8:30 am
    UGLY!?!?! Some people geez picky picky the dirty librarian doing it for me plus she`s got nice legs.
  53. Profile photo of I-IS-BORED
    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 8:54 am
    @CallofKtulu
    It`s placed perfectly on my font/window size and that`s all I care about.
  54. Profile photo of datubaman198
    datubaman198 Male 18-29
    79 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 9:22 am
    I`d let her sit on my middle finger any day.
  55. Profile photo of Samsquanch
    Samsquanch Male 30-39
    792 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 9:25 am
    So, the next thing you`re going to tell me is that drat is short for fornicating under consent of king, or that poo means ship high in transit.
    Gestures, like language, doesn`t really have an origin...it just happens. Person A decides he has more culture than Person B, and Person B agrees...so Person A`s ideas are impressed on Person B.
    I could decide that flashing the pinky finger, and twirling it is offensive...if enough people worship me as an idol, they`ll agree, and it will be a cultural obscenity.
  56. Profile photo of Jofferwry
    Jofferwry Female 18-29
    162 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 9:44 am
    slow, boring, not worth watching.
  57. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 11:05 am
    @samsquanch I`m going to twirl my pinky at the next 10 people that offend me (or vice versa, as it might speed up proceedings). Will b worth if for sheer wtf value.
  58. Profile photo of 8BitHero
    8BitHero Male 18-29
    5414 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 11:34 am
    This



    was pretty boring.
  59. Profile photo of SomeShoes
    SomeShoes Male 13-17
    2056 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 11:35 am
    flatline.
  60. Profile photo of deceit
    deceit Male 18-29
    79 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 11:57 am
    1- saw it was a video, thought about closing the tab without watching;
    2- noticed it featured a cute girl, decided to watch;
    3- heard her voice, decided again to close the tab.
  61. Profile photo of LordJim
    LordJim Male 60-69
    6666 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    Boring and badly researched.
  62. Profile photo of scoomanchoo
    scoomanchoo Male 18-29
    219 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    Tits or GTFO
  63. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 3:29 pm
    The bit about the French and English is partly true, except we (English) raise two fingers (index and middle). It does indeed come from when the French used to chop off those two fingers of our longbow men.

    There is absolutely no evidence of that ever happening. Not a single piece of evidence.

    The earliest record of prisoners of war being taken on a large scale in Europe or Britain is from the early 19th century, during the Napoleonic war.

    Prior to that, prisoners of war were only taken if they were wealthy enough to ransom (or, in much earlier times, for slavery). Archers in English armies were relatively well treated, but they were still commoners who were not rich and therefore couldn`t be ransomed. It`s far more likely that they would just be killed, all the more so because English archers were every bit as unpopular in France as you`d expect during the wars. English archery was a weapon of mass destruction.
  64. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 5, 2011 at 3:49 pm
    The number of fingers wouldn`t necessarily be relevant. It does take three fingers (and a hell of a lot of strength) to draw a proper British war longbow, but it`s those two fingers that hold the arrow on a standard draw.

    What`s more relevant is that French soldiers hated them, with very good reason. They would have cut their throats, not their fingers. Even if there was a ransom to be had, which there wasn`t.

    Some longbows were preserved on the Mary Rose and copied after it was raised. The range of the strongest was 320 yards with a heavy war arrow. The historical claims of a range of 250 yards are clearly accurate. Up to 10 arrows a minute. Up to 10,000 archers. Arrows available by the million.

    They were facing up to 100,000 yard-long arrows per minute massacring their fellow solders long before they could get in range with their own weapons. It was a horror.

    If they caught the archers, they killed them.
  65. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 4:09 pm
    [quote">There`s actually no reference to it appearing within the British culture until the 1970s. [/quote">

    Yes, there is. It appeared on film in the 1901, so it was clear that the gesture was commonly understood at least as far back as 1901.

    There`s very little written about it until more recently because it was a crude, low-class gesture, but it is definitely far older than the 1970s.

    The 1901 film is now publically available:

    Workers at Parkgate steelworks, 1901.

    At 1:02, you can very clearly see a worker giving a very obvious v-sign to the camera.

    It`s no known how old the gesture is. It might be 19th century. It might be medieval. It might be Neolithic. But it was definitely well known by 1901.
  66. Profile photo of han5nah
    han5nah Female 13-17
    735 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 4:45 pm
    dratin annoying voice.
  67. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10443 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    I win this thread
  68. Profile photo of adlinbaby
    adlinbaby Female 18-29
    404 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 9:37 pm
    hot girl should stop talking like she`s talking to 3 year olds
  69. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    January 5, 2011 at 11:37 pm
    No hot girl has it pitched about right - cleavage is like pacman to a guys IQ.
  70. Profile photo of dielaughing
    dielaughing Female 13-17
    129 posts
    January 9, 2011 at 1:36 am
    Can she just get to the f*cking point of the video?

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