N-Bomb To Be Edited From New Editions Of Huck Finn

Submitted by: fancylad 6 years ago in
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What do you think, I-A-B? Do we need our literature censored or is this a good idea in the long run?
There are 172 comments:
Male 24
One more reason to give those who hate our country and are trying to change it plane tickets to France, Russia, Cuba, China, or anywhere else they`d rather be then here. If you don`t like how we do poo in the U.S., then leave. No one here cares any more about your delicate sensibilities. The word I am a racist! refers to a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc. If this doesn’t apply to you, why get upset … it’s only a word. Again, if you don’t like our American history or what we stand for, then leave.
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Male 174
The "N-bomb" ? Is it like, you`re going to read "n!gger" and suddenly your head explodes?
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Male 176
imho, I don`t think we should hide our past, I think we should learn from it and keep it visible for future generations to see so they don`t make the same mistakes. However this is only the opinion of a white guy.
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Female 10
Why thank you ^-^
It`s also a pug, which is one of the best types of dog
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Male 1,153
Sethene i like your picture. it has a dog and a turtle in it :)
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Female 10
Dear SmilinSam, OMG LETS ALL WRITE IN CAPS!!1!

You`ve missed the point completely, it`s the principle of it that bothers `textual purists` like me. It`s also the fact that they`re trying to shelter children unnecessarily rather than teach them WHY it is a derogatory term that shouldn`t be used against people. It`s also the fact that this word ISN`T censored out of popular music.
Everybody knows what it means, but we should be teaching our children that it`s wrong, rather than trying to hide it.
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Male 391
"Fahrenheit 451."
*like*

that`s right, facebook just met iab
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Female 3,598
omg you people are retarded. THEY AREN`T CHANGING EVERY COPY THAT GETS PRINTED!!! THEY ARE CHANGING THE ONES THAT GO INTO CLASSROOMS!!!! IF YOU WANT TO READ IT IN ALL IT`S CORRECTITUDE FROM MARK TWAIN HIMSELF THEN GO TO THE LIBRARY OR BUY ONE FROM THE BOOKSTORE!! jesus.
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Female 281
What about the 1st Amendment?
There is nothing offensive, it`s just a cultural word. It`s how you use the word that counts, not the word itself.
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Female 1,095
Didn`t read the article, but I think taking it out is stupid.
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Female 98
@intothevoid6 : i agree
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Female 735
Fahrenheit 451.
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Male 792
drat you with your stupid pussification. It`s not a word. And, it shouldn`t become a word. It`s stupid.
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Male 543
one more step toward the pussification of america
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Male 11
If they take the N-word out of books then they better start taking it out of rap and hip-hop
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Male 9
I am one of those "textual purists" that are mentioned, but the professor makes a good point. It is better to offer an alternative to the "general reader" who is offended by such things than to have the book banned altogether.
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Male 7,123
Ridiculous. Twain was making a point and using language to do it. Better to burn his books than castrate them.
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Male 14,331
I hearby demand the word cracker be removed from all future publications and products because it`s racist they`ll now be called crisps unless it white people calling each other cracker that`s OK. Also Cheese Nips shall now be called Cheese-Japanese Americans or just Cheese-Crisps.
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Male 5,413
Why? If you ever watched `This is England` there`s a lot of racial words in there, but it`s words anyway....or just don`t watch it.
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Male 9,305
"Changing Uncle Tom`s name because the name is now vilified ?"

Villified? The name is so damn neutral you would bomb a horror/slasher flick if the antagonist`s name was "Tom".

"Uncle Tom" sounds like a guy in his 70`s who lives in some landlocked state in a small house who goes out every Sunday afternoon for fishing, then down to the bait shop to BS for an hour and a half with his friends. Then...goddamn I`m making a freaking character without even trying here.
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Male 748
Stupid.
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Male 2,868
Fcuking absurd.
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Male 705
It`s just words. It doesn`t really mean anything.
I THINK I-A-B SHOULD REMOVE IT`S CENSORSHIP
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Male 2,033
Gerry, you are absolutely right.


I`m going to start by editing some clothes onto those guys in baywatch, it might forcibly make children gay.

:-P
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Male 39,946
Keep Editing!

We should Shop all the pictures of Winston Churchill and remove the cigars. Wouldn`t want to start kids smoking.

In fact, Huck Finn smoked a pipe....let`s get that out of there also! Damn tobacco companies probably paid Twain for product placement anyway!

And that bit where Huck dresses as a girl... Can`t have any gender-bending confusion in our classrooms.... EDIT!

need I go on?
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Male 123
Those who forget history...those who forget history
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Male 1,256
There should be no censorship period. I mean anywhere. Let all the truths be told, and leave it to the audience to decide what they want to hear or see, and likewise what the don`t. Once a little bit is ok (which it already is in many circumstances), then it becomes easier for it to be taken to the next absurd level until everything is sacred and everyone is blind and deaf.
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Male 792
drat censorship
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Male 341
I think it should be replaced with modern terms. Such as Token or Ninja.. :) There`s always got to be at least one Token black guy in a group!!
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Male 1,547
Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
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Female 2,525
Ridiculous. People are so drating sensitive these days.
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Female 2,674
I was reading Hemingway`s `The Sun Also Rises` on the bus JUST this morning... and there`s a part where the Nbombs are heavily peppered. Anyway, I`m all engrossed in this book and I eventually glance up and see a black man reading over my shoulder. My mouth drops open, and he just smiles and says "Good morning."

True motherf*cking story.

Also, betardfooser: Thank GOD for that! Twat twat twat
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Male 558
For all those concerned about the swear filter, I`m pleased to announce that "twat" still works...
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Female 579
If people are so protected from the big horrible world nowadays that they can`t hear the n-word used in a historical context for the sake of literature and understanding the book much, MUCH better then they should sit in a padded room, wrapped in bubblewrap. If someone`s saying it to you NOW then I can understand a bad reaction because it is insulting, but if you can`t handle it in a BOOK where the social-historical context is where this was a common occurence, then you should just not read old books, or books set back then, or anything with prejudice in it used as a literary device. SERIOUSLY.
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Male 14,331
Next we`ll change all the wars ever fought to pillow fights cause our children should be sheltered and live in a bubble oblivious to reality and what has happened because it`s not PC.
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Male 4,290
[quote]I-am-Bored is obviously for censorship as we cant express ourselves without a word getting changed.[/quote]
It`s pretty rare that anyone posts something here of equal literary merit to a Twain novel.
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Male 2,862
Couple of years ago the bbc edited the word [email protected] out of fairytale of new york. So many gay people complained about the editing they had to put it back in. I forsee the same kind of thing happening here.
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Male 14,331
BOOOOOO!! I guess we`ll just censor history cause a few people have a stick up their ass and can`t deal with it.
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Male 2,372
Maybe next the genders of Petruchio and Katherina will be reversed in Shakespeare`s The Taming of the Shrew lest anyone find it sexist. Then characters will be changed throughout literature to meet race and "sexual orientation" quotas, making the works more "inclusive." After that, the authorities might rewrite great books so that the "historically disadvantaged" find them easier to read.
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Male 6,693
What`s next, taking "the N word" out of Uncle Tom`s cabin ? Changing Uncle Tom`s name because the name is now vilified ? We need to learn from our mistakes. It doesn`t hurt children to read the truth. It was the common word at the time and we need to remember how men once treated their brethren.
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Male 6,693
It`s not a laughing matter. We don`t censor literature. Period. Political correctness threatens to erase history. Even putting aside the fact the Huck Finn is classic literature erasing "the N word" from the book HARMS civil rights. By ignoring or erasing past sins from our history we do in fact deny them.
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Male 5,189
LAWWWWWWWWWL! Stupid.
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Male 341
I-am-Bored is obviously for censorship as we cant express ourselves without a word getting changed.
mean persons
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Male 341
ive read a ton of books with I am a racist! in them. heart of darkness, james bond etc
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Male 4,290
Absolutely ridiculous.
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Male 527
@Sarah, censored vs. not being read? I think Twain would prefer to not be read in that case. The book might as well read like this:

Once upon a time, a boy and a runaway slave traveled up the Mississippi River, but found it unnecessary because the slave`s owner willed that he should be freed upon her death. The End.

Just as poignant and life-changing as the original, no?
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Male 239
Yeah, censorship is just wrong, I mean what do these drating mean persons think they`re doing?
;)
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Male 269
Strangely the most irritating information for me was that the book is banned at all because of one word. It`s kind of hard for me to find an adequate answer why you should do this.
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Male 155
I am ALL IN with AirborneJT on this one! (below this post by about 5.) this is the beginning of a VERY slippery slope when it comes to speech and expression. This book is a period piece, and was written in the language of the day. if we start allowing for straight-up rewriting of literature for the sake of a hot-button we begin robbing the future of said literature, the authors of their artistic expression, and we soften our own senses to the point of being unable to tolerate anything the slightest bit off-base, no matter the context.
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Male 46
Terrible idea. I say: NO CENSORING LITERATURE!
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Male 210
An adaptation is one thing. Making a movie or children`s book version of the story is acceptable, but to change the original text due to an "offensive" word? What`s next, the gonna change the theme song to the Flintstones?
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Female 535
And we`re supposed to learn from history, how?
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Male 12
You can`t do this, man. This book is offensive, perhaps a bit outdated, but you can`t just completely alter the meaning of the book by changing the most important word in the whole work. The n-word was put there on purpose, and it`s not our call to tinker with a great author`s vision, offensive as it may be
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Male 2,552
Anyone else but me come to think of 1984`s offices where they edit historybooks and others?

Kinda gives me the same vibes.
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Female 494
It need to remain as is. How are we supposed to learn from the past and the mistakes we have made if everything gets "censored".
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Male 40,764
Testing:
I am a racist!
What comes up? lolz! Drat the IAB censor!

The article spells it out: This guy FEELS so bad about the word, but he FEELS so strongly about Twain! Poor b-tard! He FEELS he must remove the word from the Twain so people won`t FEEL badly.

I FEEL like ripping him a new one...
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Male 145
There are already versions of the book that are rewritten for younger audiences. Not only do they replace the word, but they alter the entire text to be easier and more entertaining to children. I have no problem with this.

I do, however, have a problem with the idea of reprinting the exact literature with a single change to promote political correctness. It violates the genius of Mark Twain, and I can`t support that. Even if Twain did have a problem with racism (I admit that I don`t know enough about the author to make that declaration), it is wrong to correct that for the modern audience.

I am a writer, and I would rather die a million deaths before having my words -my personal expressions- changed.

Let`s go ahead and chop the penis off of the statue of David while we`re at it. Maybe, if there`s enough time in the day, we can also change Alice in Wonderland! Maybe we can say that the Caterpillar was drinking tea instead of smoking a hookah.
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Male 2,422
So, it gets cut out of a seminal work of literature written to question the racial world-view of the age, but it`s kept alive by hack hip-hop "artists" and thuggish homeboys. What a stupid world feel-good liberalism has created.
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Male 559
Censorship of ANY KIND is completly UN-american.
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Male 120
@I-IS-BORED
I was thinking the same thing,
"So "slave" = "ni--er?""
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Male 2,441
I wish I could hear what Vonnegut would say about this.
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Male 128
Historical accuracy trumps political correctness.

Slippery slope, people. Remember 1984.
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Male 257
kittilia the only thing preventing people from reading it is the fact that they don`t sit down at a computer at order it off amazin or indigo. if by grade 9 even you don`t have the maturity to read a novel with the word I am a racist! and injun in it and understand the the context you don`t have the mental capacity to understand the book, so chaning the one word does nothing but desecrate an amazing book. by not reading the book for what it is but what you want it to be and that isn`t history. to use a more drastic and blown up example would be the nazi regime in germany. after it all ended the german government didn`t whitewash the entire history because it wasn`t politically correct they taught even more so that their children would understand. I find that people who have even the slightest fragment of education could even consider such an atrocity to try and bastardise something as beautiful as huckfin.
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Male 2,419
"This is not an effort to render Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn colorblind," said Gribben, speaking from his office at Auburn University at Montgomery, where he`s spent most of the past 20 years heading the English department. "Race matters in these books. It`s a matter of how you express that in the 21st century."


Ah, so obviously slave can only mean black.
(publishers are secretly being racist :P)
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Female 582
Those who erase history are dumbasses who deserve to repeat it.
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Male 126
i think there should be no need to change that word. if you can`t handle that word in a book then you need a reality check. ITS A WORD. get over it
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Female 500
I am actually kind-of okay with this, as long as they note it in the book. I mean, if that one word is preventing millions of people from reading it, then let it be replaced. However, I wish they could have at least used "negro" instead of "slave." I feel slave just doesn`t work in this context.
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Male 22
I not as mad that he is changing it as much as there is even the slightest need for him to change it. All of this political correctness stuff is going to be the doom of us all.

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Male 2,388
its in the dictionary
urban dictionary
I am a racist!
A word that everyone else is afraid to define except in utter seriousness, for fear of being branded a rascist, in total ignorance of the colloquial usage of the word, its characterization in popular culture, and the populations of people it is used most by.

actual dictionary
negro; - in vulgar derision or depreciation. It is usually intended and interpreted as highly insulting and vulgar.

a word that strong would be put into a book for a reason
i`ve never read it
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Male 12,138
It was the literature of the day, man. This is bullpoo.
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Male 720
This is the literary equivalent of removing the penis of Michelangelo`s David and replacing it with a burnt Polish sausage.
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Male 25,416
THe times are changin, doesnt mean its changing for the better!
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Male 456
...it`s a book. A novel. Work of fiction. It was a commonly used word back in those days..and hell, it still is.
Give me a goddamn break.
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Male 758
When history is erased or forgotten, it gets repeated. End of story.
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Male 22
Deleting history.
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Male 39,946
I`m for changing.

And while we are at it, we should re-write Shakespear so that Romeo and Juliet just hold hands.... no pre-marrital teen sex. Bad for adolecents to see and leads to television shows like 16 And Pregnant.
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Male 1,399
It`s so ironic. Twain would burn down this publishing house rather than let them do this.

“The difference between the almost right word and the right word is really a large matter–’tis the difference between the lightning bug and the lightning.” Mark Twain
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Male 2,441
You do not edit Mark Twain.
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Male 2,121
(got cut off even though I was within character limit...)


The article talks about "its jarring effect" but this is exactly what should happen. It`s much more likely to raise the issue of racism in a classroom than "slave" is.
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Male 2,121
The whole purpose of the book is in its depiction of the culturally innate racism in those days. Even the hero is very racist at times. Huck often refers to Jim as his Aunt`s nig--r, like he was her dog or an appliance like an oven. And the n word, whilst out of place at first, becomes ingrained in the books language and style. It helps give a very real sense of how worthless blacks were in those days, not beyond a piece of machinery. One memorable conversation about an accident on a ship went something like this (paraphrasing from memory):
"Was anyone hurt?"
"No, no-one was injured. Two nig--rs were killed."

Once you start to dilute this then the book really does just become a story about a young boy running away and the adventures he has. It stops being a commentary on racism and becomes a simple children`s story.

The article talks about "its jarring effect" but this is exactly what should happen. It`s much more likely to raise
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Male 119

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Female 3,562
Hande, there`s a reason there`s like 20 versions of the Bible. It`s been censored and reinterpreted plenty of times.
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Female 3,562
While I don`t believe in censorship, ask yourself this: if the choice is to censor it OR to never read it at all, wouldn`t you prefer to at least have a censored version rather than nothing? It`s a compromise.
But still, there are worse things than using the n-word over and over. Outside of the language there`s nothing offensive about the book. I recall reading a book assigned to me in 6th grade about a first-person perspective of a little Japanese girl caught in the atrocities of WW2. That was a HELL of a lot more traumatizing to read than Huck Finn.
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Male 240
There is a lot we could edit out of the Bible, should we do that as well.
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Male 588
PTPete said: "Whitewashing the past doesn`t change it. Why would anyone think this is a good idea?"

I agree 100%. Those who choose to be ignorant of the past and ignore its lessons are wilfully blind.
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Male 226
That is retarded. That is like taking out niger in, "Their Eyes Were Watching God". That is like taking muggle out of harry potter. That is like playing baseball without bases... or a ball... or a bat!!!!!!!
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Male 40,764
Drat censorship!
Oh, dart the IAB censor, at least I can say drat here.
I can`t? Drat it! lolz!

Seriously, this is awful. The villians of Political Correctness have finally won, eh? Big Nanny State is looking out for you!
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Female 10
@Premierwondr
“Maybe our teachers should explain the words
motherdrater, blowjob, jerk, lapdance, douchebag, and mean person to the children as well so that they know how to look at the word.”

How many books did you read as part of your education have those words in?

And anyway, when I was in Secondary school (that’s high school to any Americans that don’t know) we WERE taught about swearwords and why we shouldn’t use them to hurt people.

@Mvangild

Well said

REALLY sorry about the MAHOOSIVE rant, but I find it difficult to consolidate what I want to say.
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Female 10
I saw The Fly, Jaws, Priscilla Queen of the Desert (the original) but to name a few when I was considered much too young.
I read a book about Heroine addicts and Prostitution when I was 11.
My parents accidentally swore in front of me a few times when I was little.
But I’d like to think I’m a fairly well rounded human being, I would never use a derogatory term against someone just because of their race/sexuality/religion etc. or do drugs, or go beat someone up blah blah blah, you get the picture.

@Premierwondr
“I skipped the word, and nobody was appalled by me not using the n-word.”

Does that not prove that when you were in school you had the moral maturity and foresight to consider other peoples feelings?
Could other children, the age you were then, not also possess the same traits?
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Female 10
I think that although this guy has his heart in the right place it’s not necessarily a good thing to do.

I’m not actually against books being edited to make them more suitable for younger people, for educational purposes. However, I think that taking the word out isn’t for the best, this isn’t a kids book so shouldn’t be being read to young children at school anyway. But at High School level the students should be old enough to listen when they’re taught that it’s a horrid word to use against someone.
Could it not, in fact, be used as a tool to teach them about racism? They already know what it means.

As a few people have already mentioned, we can’t delete the evidence of our mistakes because we’re still learning from them.

This is censorship madness, and it fills me with dread to think
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Female 1,236
Whitewashing the past doesn`t change it. Why would anyone think this is a good idea? How about going down to your local museum & painting outfits on all the nudes? I don`t use racial slurs & don`t think much of those who do. By the same token, I oppose censorship & don`t think much of those who embrace it. Just sayin`.
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Male 527
@houtex, Belgium?
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Male 120

What happens if somebody gets offended by the term "Slave" being used in or out of the context of this rewriting?
Rather then censor, wouldn`t it be better to educate? Rather then be ashamed and hide a word that was used to describe a race, teach and show the contexts in which the word was used.
Mark Twain wasn`t a racist,His characters Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn were not racist either, and in that context his use of the word was at heart not racist either. Sure the times have changed and now that word is considered among the most racists, especially if spoken by a white man. To bring modern ideals on to anything literary of the past is really losing touch of the time of the piece.
Instead apparently brushing it under the carpet and hiding it is the only choice people are comfortable to make.
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Male 74
Who the drat is offended by The Adventures of Huck Finn?
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Male 2,033
Are they going to call him SlaveJim? That sounds a lot like SlimJom and you know...now I want to snap into one.
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Male 2
That`s fine to change it. Just take Twain`s name off of it because it will no longer be his work.
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Male 61
Soon to be erased from other books at some point (which will include any derivatives):
drat, poo, piss, rooster, slut, whore, ass, pussy, damn, hell, Belgium, frack, felgercarb, frell, jerk, hooter, funbag, bishop, dung, dang, geez, black, indian, turtlehead, heck, those people, that kind, them, reds, commies, shoot, shucks, tit, and many many others, but I`m tired now. :p
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Female 325
That`s ridiculous. I hate that particular word more than any other word in the English language but, at the same time, we`re totally diminishing the historical accuracy of the books by removing it. I`m not a racist but I -am- a purist.
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Male 1,399
So now instead of Nig.ger Jim, he`ll be doubleplusgood Jim.
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Female 224
that may actually be the worst idea ever. people need to experience hate in order to know how to love
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Female 355
Slotherder I was more so being sarcastic because it`s basically what is being done. I`m a little annoyed that it`s totally not racist to have all black colleges, scholarships, basketball teams, and organizations. But A Classic novel that`s been unchanged for almost 200 years suddenly is offensive and is going to be rewritten. we`re coddling and conditioning generations to find everything offensive and to eliminate it entirely. Soon books will be blank, Tv`s will only receive static, and music will be silenced.
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Male 527
@premier, "Who cares if it is being edited out of children`s books. "

Last time I checked, Twain didn`t write children`s books. The books he wrote were intended for mature minds. The way he makes his points in this book is far too subtle for children, but like a hammer on a thumb for adults. By changing that one word, you completely destroy the point that he`s making: that racism is ugly. If you change it to slave, that makes no sense because the racist intonation is now gone. Those that would change literature to make it more "palatable" are just as bad as those who would burn books. They both seek to destroy history and replace it with one of their own choosing.
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Male 1,195
I`m going to go to libraries and bookstores and "edit" it back in.
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Male 33
Everybody should just grow-the-f u c k-up and stop being so horrendously offended by mere words, no matter how odious they might be - especially when those words are used in an historical context!
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Female 614
wow, just don`t let immature little f><ckwads read it that aren`t grown up enough to not be rude to each other about it. don`t change twain. that`s... ughhh i really hate my country`s reasoning behind things....
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Male 7,378
And there-in lies the problem. Difficult enough to teach kids not to use a word jokingly or pejoratively when the word is in a book they must read.
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Male 1,583
but... i had to read books with the "n-word" in them in elementary school. now even high school kids can`t? times have changes. and i only graduated in `09
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Male 958
F U C K NO. That is a complete outright dickslap of overcencorship. People come the drat on its a word! You all take no offence to it I sure as poo hear it at my school once or dratin 300 time... Also its a classic you picky drats.
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Male 251
Maybe we should just let people read "Cliff`s Notes" and be done with it instead. (yeah, I know, there are some dolts who only do that, anyway)
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Male 848
Well that`s a stupid idea.
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Male 251
SmilinSam, I`d prefer the works of Shakespeare to be presented in full as well. If that means only exposing those of that class to one full work, then talking about certain aspects of others, then that is better than exposing them to multiple condensed versions.
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Male 88
SmilinSam is onto something. I dont think anyone will care the first time they read it. I can see you stubborn people going "ey! its a word godamnit", but its not like the new editions will do any negative, so why complain.
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Male 1,399
Talk about missing the point of Huck Finn.

If you edit Twain`s work without Twain`s permission, then it isn`t Twain`s work. It`s that simple.
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Male 251
region of genetic origin*
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Male 251
@ PinkHomicide _ Funny you mention that. I actually prefer being called white rather than caucasian. If someone is going to insist on grouping me into some vague category, I`d prefer it to at least be one of outwardly obvious characteristics, instead of one referring to some genetic region of origin which I have absolutely no tactile or spiritual connection to.
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Female 3,598
in school, we had these big books in english class that had many many stories including several plays from Shakespeare they were edited down to be shorter, and more catching to the young readers. there was never a huge debate about those books, even though they *gasp* EDITED them. but ya know what? the original plays were still available to ANYONE who wanted to read them (kids don`t) as will the original books by mark twain... you guys know how dumb and ignorant kids are (and don`t tell me "oh we will teach them the right ways", wishful thinking) in this society children will take that word in that book and RUN with it any way they can. claim that they are just repeating what they heard teacher say or any other way they can use it as an excuse... kids are mean spirited little jerks. always have been and always will be.
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Male 101
Next in line, they are going to edit 1984 because it`s becoming too true, albeit a few decades later.

No, the book should stay as it was written.
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Male 222
Complete bull. Stupid idea.
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Female 355
In that case I want the word white removed from all books when referring to a person of my color. It offends me. The correct term is Caucasian.
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Female 1,963
Terrible idea. Are we pretending, now, that the word was not in use at the time? It`s not a children`s book, in any case.
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Male 27
Being white, what appales me the most is that someone thinks being called the n word is worse than being addressed as a slave.

For me, being deprived of freedom would be worse than anything anyone could ever call me regarding my origins or my appeareance.
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Female 293
fnck this i want a new version of the book written by /b/
then some one will have something to complain about.
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Male 192
People need to leave things alone. It was written this way for a reason, why change it now.
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Female 728
To those speaking of kid-friendliness: If you`re going to change the meaning of the book to make it more palatable to your young child, why even give the book to your child in the first place? If you can`t sit down and explain the relevance and context of the work to your children, why even bother trying to teach them about it? If you claim to be a teacher, teach. Don’t give them the watered-down meaningless version and completely avoid the point of the book simply because it isn’t PC. If you want to teach the kids that slavery and racism are wrong, you have to actually confront the issue.
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Female 728
*headdesk*

The problem with censorship is that it prevents people from learning the reason why something is considered unacceptable. Huck Finn is not a racist book. It is the opposite. It makes fun of the ignorant and inhuman treatment that blacks in this country once endured. The "n word" is a pivotal part of this biting criticism. It is a common tactic in social commentary: use the accepted language and ideas that you wish to combat. Present them as the norm. Then show why they are wrong. In removing the word, you remove an essential part of the book and one of the reasons why it had so much impact that it is considered a classic.
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Male 251
Since when is "Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" a children`s book? Watering down period pieces to expose them to people who aren`t ready for them doesn`t seem to be a good solution to me. How about making sure the people are ready for the subject matter instead of changing the subject matter so it is ready for the people, especially when changing the subject matter means pulling its teeth out, even if it`s only one tooth at a time? Education is about developing sense and understanding, not reducing the subjects which we ultimately want people to understand.
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Male 575
I think books should be left as they were written. The End.
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Male 17,511
As much as I hate the N-word, Censoring books is not the way to go. It shouldn`t be banned either. Clemens used the common language of the day, The use of the N-word was not offensive in his day. Our society has changed, That is why it seems offensive today. Clemens shown a light on the bigotry and racism of the day and made it a compelling and exciting novel.

They should just choose another book, instead of trying to neuter a classic.
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Male 544
Just sayin`, but Huck Finn isn`t exactly a children`s book. I had to read it my junior year in high school.
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Male 193
Sounds like a good idea to me! Instead of teaching our children about the meaning of the word, and why they should not use it, we just ignore the issue altogether, assigning it even more power!

Genius!
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Male 3,745
"If you were a black kid and it`s mandatory to read Huck Finn in English how would you feel?"

it WAS mandatory for our curriculum when i was in school and its just a book :| its not like the book was talking to me and actually being rasist and from what i remember Finn himself wasnt being racist either. it was a word he came up with and he used it...dont teach your kids any better and they will do the same thing
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Male 2,229
the guy doing the re-edit of the book is admirable, but, in my opinion, misguided. Language is of context, change the words and you change the meaning. The story has it`s place along with with the historical context from which it was written. Ignoring one and changing the other is a disservice to students and the people.
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Male 7,378
If you were a black kid and it`s mandatory to read Huck Finn in English how would you feel?
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Male 3,745
"A teacher teaching a class about the n-word.
Nidonemo are you serious?
That classroom discussion would be exactly the type of thing we would see and laugh about on i-a-b.
Maybe our teachers should explain the words
motherdrater, blowjob, jerk, lapdance, douchebag, and mean person to the children as well so that they know how to look at the word."

they way kids come up now they SHOULD explain those words :|
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Male 975
A teacher teaching a class about the n-word.
Nidonemo are you serious?
That classroom discussion would be exactly the type of thing we would see and laugh about on i-a-b.
Maybe our teachers should explain the words
motherdrater, blowjob, jerk, lapdance, douchebag, and mean person to the children as well so that they know how to look at the word.
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Male 3,745
"Disney takes Aladdin and takes out all the blood and fighting and death and makes it into a movie that is age-appropriate"

btw rewatch all of those Disney cartoon movies...some of those jokes are NOT meant for children...at all...the candle stick from "Beauty and the Beast" has herpies and one of the guys in "Pinnochio" is a pedophile...need i go on?
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Male 975
Who cares if it is being edited out of children`s books.
I can`t believe so many people here are vehemently supporting your children reading the n-word.
I read this talk about looking at the bigger picture but this book is being read by middle school and high school students. How many people here really paid attention in English class?
If the children are actually playing close attention to the reading, they`ll get the message with our without using the n-word.

I still remember a time when I had to read a page of Beloved out loud and the n-word was there and there was 4 black kids in the class, I had to pause and weight my options.
I skipped the word, and nobody was appalled by me not using the n-word.
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Male 9,305
"@Nidonemo: "If you`re so weak..." But remember the purpose of it is so it can be read by young children in schools, I dont think it is meant for grown adults who are capable of decisions like that."

Then by all means teach the CHILDREN how to look at the word! What the word means and why we don`t use it anymore!

Here, say this: "The word means (definition), but we don`t use it like they used to anymore, because we feel it`s inappropriate and incredibly mean-spirited to call someone that."

Is it so hard to teach children truth? Why? Why is it so hard for people to teach the truth? The world is nasty yes, but we don`t have to be! Teach them how to be decent, fair people!
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Male 3,745
coming from a black guy...shouldn`t need to be censored...but it also shouldn`t be a reason for random white kids to suddenly want to read the book out loud in class and snicker because they got to say the "N" word...

you wouldn`t censor God or Jesus from Christianity so don`t censor a word from a book that is also apart of someones history whether it be your history or not. also Pluto is a planet not a drating asteroid or meteoroid or w/e the drat you want to call it...
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Female 509
This is disgusting...
like book burnings.

I hate society.
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Male 631
Instead of editing it out, teachers could use it as a teaching experience.
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Male 3,431
WTF!?!?!? That`s NOT how it was WRITTEN!!!!

Jesus this is Effing STUPID!

It is NO LONGER Huck Finn at that point. The Content and writing style are unique and exclusive to that story. Who is the Son of a Bitch that came up with such a Goddamn Pussified drating Idea!?
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Male 4,014
Well, its censored here........

You all realize that, right?

I am a racist! (Hehe, thats what typing it produces).
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Female 515
LoL @ AXEJST
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Female 515
So are they going to start editing history books because some students or their parents may be offended by History?
Politically correct ninnies!
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Male 130
Bet only white people care.
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Male 164
Goddammit,Really?
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Male 1,197
i can see why thye are changing the work, to get it into schools and get kids reading the works ... but to change someones words in a classic novel like these ones, isnt right!!
you should start looking at a school system that has the power to ban books based on a minority held belief
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Male 505
"Disney takes Aladdin and takes out all the blood and fighting and death and makes it into a movie that is age-appropriate"

They made it into a damn awesome movie though, so it`s all good!

OT:

No it shouldn`t be edited. Even for school children. There are plenty of other books out there that are appropriate without being censored.
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Male 633
Whats next are they going to edit the bible for racism;
"Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African`s color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks."
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Male 527
Aww, COME ON! This is so f`ing idiotic. People see the word, but they don`t look at the context. Someone who actually read the book would know what Twain was going for: irony. The book is rife with irony. There are many instances where Twain shows that judgement based on a label or appearances is wrong. And he uses that word in order to show the attitudes of people then, and how wrong they were to assume that black people or Native Americans were only stupid or hostile or whatever.

Some people are judging this book solely on the number of times the n-word is used, and that makes them just as bigoted and idiotic as racists.
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Female 3,598
what is the big deal of taking a story and making it more kid friendly? it`s not like they are erasing every other copy of the book out there, they are simply trying to get around the already ridiculous book-ban in schools. Nobody gets all crazy when Disney takes Aladdin and takes out all the blood and fighting and death and makes it into a movie that is age-appropriate. it`s not like college kids are only going to be able to read the "baby" version of huck finn... the original will still exist, this one is just more school friendly.
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Male 2,436
Are you F*CKING KIDDING ME! Do not censor that man`s literature, or any man`s.
N*gger is a word. It exists. It has contextual and historical relevance. Sorry if this hurts your feelings... wait, no I`m not.
And no, I don`t go around using the word n*gger. I shouldn`t have to say that, but I do out of fear of being labeled a racist. Which lately I am finding myself offended by the word "racist" because it is becoming synonimos with white conservative males.
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Male 310
face.......palm. Coon?
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lil wayne would be so happy!
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Male 1,625
No censorship. Surprised much conservatives? =P
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Male 1,931
AAAAAAAAAAAARGGGHHHHHHHH

This is how people talked at the time. Was it right? Was it politically correct? No. It`s how people drating talked. It`s not about racism today, it`s about racism back then. If you even read the drating book that`s the message being put across! GAH!!!! SO ANGRY!
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Female 1,006
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*facepalm*

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Male 96
I say take it out.
I was lucky to get to read it in school, and I see how it can be extremely offensive to people; and shouldnt be used in schools.
Keep in mind, they arent taking the words out of every edition here forward, they are just making one edition where the words are replaced by words that are essentially the same, just more child appropriate. I think this is a great idea, because it was a good book and now more kids will be reading it in school.

@Nidonemo: "If you`re so weak..." But remember the purpose of it is so it can be read by young children in schools, I dont think it is meant for grown adults who are capable of decisions like that.
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Male 33
As long as they`re editing the book why not change the main characters names to Richie, Fonzie, and Potsie. To edit this book would be an American shame.
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Male 3,332
If we forget where we came from, we are doomed to go back. If we don`t look back on times when saying these words was not only acceptable, but commonplace, and see the follies of our ways, we will start to use them again. We must embrace the past that haunts us to move beyond it and better ourselves.
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Male 605
Semi-retarded. The word, while racist in the context today, shouldn`t be removed from a literary classic that has an understandable usage for the time. Its a fair representation of it`s time. On the other hand, this is, for all things, a kids book and kids are impressionable. But the amount of times its on the f*cking TV and lyrics of songs, and for that matter hundreds f other books makes it a stupid reason to censor this book in particular. We can`t try to wipe this word of the face of the earth, we should just accept its past usage and make sure its not repeated outside the context of the book.
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Male 5
Ray Bradbury is rolling in his grave.
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Male 8,300
The whole drating point of the drating novel is to drating show peoples drating attitudes to blacks at the time. Censor out the things that don`t drating agree with modern drating attitudes and PCness and you`re left with a drating novel about drating nothing. drating tards.
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Male 329
YEAH! I`m all for this! And while we are at it let`s edit any other books that do not appeal to the sensibilities of the current status quo! I`m sure we can find all kinds of stuff in the Bible that isn`t PC by today`s current social mores and such...let`s cut that all out too!
You know when you start taking liberties with editing classic works of fiction, where do you draw the line to what is offensive? The reason they are classics and still read is because they call to a time in our past, and yes some of these times and occurances and actions from the past are ugly and not PC, but they stand as a reminder of where we have been and how far we have come along...to erase those words and instances and such only ensures them to be forgotten and to forget them surely means the lesson is lost and we are doomed to repeat our mistakes again.
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Male 2,389
sure, why not. and lets just ban everything else that`s possibly offensive to a socio/economic/racial/religious group.
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Male 9,305
Don`t remove it. It`s supposed to be in there.

You know why I don`t watch imported anime by American studios? Because they take the original product, something that artists and writers worked very hard to produce, they change it for "American audiences" and censorship purposes.

If you`re so weak that you need a separate person to decide what you should and shouldn`t see, hear, and say, then why don`t you just crawl back into the womb now and sit there for a while?

Don`t like it? Then don`t watch it. But don`t prevent someone else from possibly enjoying it because you have a problem with it. That`s incredibly self-centered.
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Male 20,917
Hey Angelmassb, I agree with you. Unfortunately, there are way too many kids that visit the site that can`t control themselves.
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Male 2,548
Haha! They better revise To Kill a Mockingbird as well.

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Male 1,231
Great literature should be left the way it was written. Words and concepts we now see as racist are still part of the literature itself, and therefore should be kept within context.
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Male 15,510
We need this site uncensored
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Male 20,917
Link: N-Bomb To Be Edited From New Editions Of Huck Finn [Rate Link] - What do you think, I-A-B? Do we need our literature censored or is this a good idea in the long run?
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