My Spirituality As An Atheist

Submitted by: WeaponWizard 6 years ago in

This guy is an atheist, but he"s spiritual. Here"s how he justifies his thinking. Do you agree with him? Disagree?
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Female 129
I agree with him and I hope to visit beautiful places like that and cry and laugh with friends.
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Female 192
Atheist just means you don`t believe in a god or gods. Right?
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Male 12
I don`t always drink beer, but when I do, I choose Dos Equis
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Male 1,598
Blah blah blah... more pretentious atheist bull crap.
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Male 3,076
I cant even imagine how it`s like to be religious...
I`m thank full for internet and TV for saving me from a life of bullpoo, unfairness and praising a imaginary psychopath.
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Male 346
I actually find religion to be depressing and a motivation killer. I am the result of millions of years of work and progress of not only man-kind but of physical laws. The universe is set up in such a way that not only is my life possible, but the very atoms that make up everything work towards it.

That is more empowering than any religion, or at least to me.
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Male 1,815
His nasally voice ruined it. Couldn`t watch it all.
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Male 2,419
"When God touches him he will be convinced and it will be all over."

Nice to know you realize religion will bring about our destruction.
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Male 3,619
[quote] This guy is a Christian waiting to happen. When God touches him he will be convinced and it will be all over. Just like all of you. you sit there high and mighty and full of pride thinking about how smart you are.That would be all over as soon as God touched you. Don`t think you don`t believe because you are smart. the truth is, you do not believe because God has not touched you (hopefully) Yet. [/quote]

*siiiiiigh* ... well that`s one way to ruin the name of any outgoing atheist.

i will regard you as a crazy person and leave you to natural selection. a slow and steady process that takes thousands of years. modern man has just been around for a few houndred, so unfortunatly i can`t expect it any soon.
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Male 5,413
I`d say I`m not spiritual too but I have those moments in place too. But I don`t think it`s spiritual, I think it`s just loving life, looking at beauty and appreciating what you have. I think about this often but it`s what I would call spiritual
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Male 2,868
Beautifully expressed.
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Male 2,855
get off my atheism
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Male 1,547
"Spiritual" is a useless word. It can means absolutely anything you want it to from devout fundamentalism to hippie New Age bullsh*t to nihilism. The point of a word is to convey information, when a word is as ambiguous as "spiritual" it doesn`t convey anything.

I agree with most of what he said, but he really needs to develop a more concise vocabulary to describe his existential beliefs.
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Male 1,610
"This guy is a Christian waiting to happen. When God touches him he will be convinced and it will be all over. Just like all of you. you sit there high and mighty and full of pride thinking about how smart you are.That would be all over as soon as God touched you. Don`t think you don`t believe because you are smart. the truth is, you do not believe because God has not touched you (hopefully) Yet."

The last thing this world needs is an omnipotent being going around touching people. It goes against the idea of free will. I mean, I imagine in your concept of paradise none of us have a choice in whether God touches us or not, and your heaven is, in fact slavery. The notion that it is ok to just go around touching people is what is what`s constantly getting the Catholic Church into trouble.

BTW, I`m being serious. The way you think about God and his/her/it`s relationship with the rest of the world is not healthy.
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Male 1,360
we need to build a church to pass on his message to the rest of the world!
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Male 94
Oh great, another flame war over religion. Keep your thoughts to yourselves dumbpoos.
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Female 12
dude seriously you think that its a probability that we are the only things in the universe that can feel appreciation? no offense, but sounds extremely unlikely. possible yes, probable, no. i mean holy poo, instead of thinking of ourselves as the totality of emotional bliss or absolute intellect, shouldnt we see ourselves as what we most likely are, which is but a mere shade in the vast universe?
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Male 245
@aikiman and davymid
What a pill, am I right?

That`s basically the stance I have on life. Appreciation. I love interesting things.
Also, Atheism and Agnosticism aren`t mutually exclusive. I just usually assume agnosticism due to the nature of belief. I don`t believe in a god, but I suppose it`s possible one exists. Similar to how I don`t believe those emails from "Nigerian royalty" asking for an investment. I don`t know for a fact that they`re lying, but in all my sense as the person I am, I would never give them a cent. I don`t look down on the religious for not having the same mindset as myself. Honestly, as far as I`m concerned, it`s whatever gets you off, you know?
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Male 182
Can people stop saying that he`s agnostic? I feel exactly the same as this and I am thoroughly atheist. You are getting confused by the terms "spirituality" and "something greater than me"

He doesn`t mean God, he said it himself. In that example he meant plate tectonics. Understanding the thing that is "greater" than you doesn`t make it any less wondrous.

In the long run all you theists feel mostly the same as this video, it`s just that atheists don`t feel the need to anthropomorphise the natural processes of the universe and call them God. I doubt that I will ever understand the need to cheapen this astonishing place that we live in by explaining it away with fairy tales. The more we discover, the more amazing it becomes.

Fantastic video. This sort of thing gives me chills.
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Male 255
Au contraire fattpill, we all hope that the scales fall from your eyes and you free yourself from the shackles of oppressive dogma. Come, throw away your religious crutch, open your eyes and follow us into the light, wonder and awe of reality.
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Female 500
davymid, is that a movie line? I agree entirely, by the way. Religious people should not try to convert or hope to convert atheists. It just won`t happen.
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Male 12,138
[quote]This guy is a Christian waiting to happen. When God touches him he will be convinced and it will be all over. Just like all of you. you sit there high and mighty and full of pride thinking about how smart you are.That would be all over as soon as God touched you. Don`t think you don`t believe because you are smart. the truth is, you do not believe because God has not touched you (hopefully) Yet.
Good luck[/quote]
Oh, shut up, you insufferable twat.
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Male 39,909
[quote]To see beauty, to feel the wonder, and to be in awe...."[/quote]

Dudes been lookin` in my windows!
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Male 6
@fattpill
"When God touches him he will be convinced and it will be all over. Just like all of you. "

I was touched by a priest, is that good enough?
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Male 313
Being an atheist is the cool thing to be.
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Male 341
Spirituality is just another word for success. Have a success and we feel happy and hopeful and want to share it with others. Who cares where we came from, who`s running the show and where do we go when we die. Have a great time while you are alive and make an effort to help others have a fun trip. Check out the Woody Allen character in "Hannah and Her Sisters"
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Male 96
@fattpill
Are there any other religions you respect? What about the billions of people touched by gods slightly different than(or suspiciously similar) yours? Are they just up poo creek or something?
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Male 96
@Dragonlord
I feel like you`re conflating Atheism with Positivism. As an Atheist, I don`t have a problem with folks calling themselves atheists if they willfully embrace a little fuzzy logic now and then. We won`t agree about everything, but if they`ve decided against belief in deities and religions` ultimate authority, I`m happy to have them in the tent.
Also, Karma, at least in a Buddhist context, is less supernaturally enforced moral codes and more an ethos of cause and effect, like "if you go around punching everyone you see, that will make your life bad in some way, eventually." It gets worked into supernatural and folklore cosmologies, but lots of types of Buddhism are actually pretty remarkable in the amount of leeway they give you to not believe in stuff, especially reified deities and folklore.
I could see a lot of Buddhist doctrine working its way into a secular and Atheist understandings of the world, in all honesty.
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Male 256
This guy is a Christian waiting to happen. When God touches him he will be convinced and it will be all over. Just like all of you. you sit there high and mighty and full of pride thinking about how smart you are.That would be all over as soon as God touched you. Don`t think you don`t believe because you are smart. the truth is, you do not believe because God has not touched you (hopefully) Yet.
Good luck
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Male 12,138
Yeah, I hear him. I`m atheist, but I consider myself to be a very spiritual person. I quite often go to the edge of the ocean to watch the majesty of whales playing in the surf. Or lie on my back for hours looking up at the Milky Way. Or sit and look at mountains for hours as the sun sets behind them. Even as an scientist who understands (at least some) of the processes that formed those vistas, it still fills me with wonder.

Actually, reading that back, I`ve just had a revelation. Maybe I`m not atheist at all, maybe I`m in fact gay.
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Male 3,060
i watched this part way through, tried to fart, and touched cotton. i got bored.
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Male 2,033
Well, green batman pretty much just summed up what i thought about this. Go read it again and pretend I said the same thing :P
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Female 728
While I disagree with the use of the word "spirituality", I more or less agree with him. I consider myself agnostic, simply because I can`t unequivocally prove that god(s) do(es) not exist, but I choose to believe that there are no deities. I am awed by the contemplation of the universe. This guy comes off as something of a sensualist, which I would not consider myself, but I do feel a sense of wonder at the thought of being a part of the larger whole of the universe.

@izzy_meow: An atheist would admit that the universe is greater than he is because he is simply a small part of the universe. Atheism is not egoism, it is simply the lack of belief in the supernatural.
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Male 1,471
Either that was some guy pouring his heart out on the internet, or a carefully crafted commercial for apple butter buiscuits..?
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Male 734
@collegebound , I disagree. Karma implies that there are set moral standards, and something supernatural controlling the world such that rewards and punishments are given out based on those moral standards.

Likewise, the "energies" you most-likely refer to are supernatural, and supernatural beliefs are outside the field of athiesm.
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Female 63
The way this guy talks makes him more of an agnostic. The fact that he says there`s something greater than him. A true athiest wouldn`t believe that, but with agnostics, there`s not religion but the possibility of a higher power or even just spirits. But straight up athiest is just nothing. There are people, no life after death, no ultimate powers or spirits of any kind.
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Male 3,745
atheism means that you dont believe in a god...says nothing about spirituality

you can be an atheist and still believe in karma and/or different energies in the universe
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Female 1,264
too long, didn`t watch.

But in pure rationalistic terms, atheists can be spritual, since spirit is the quality that gives humans thought and individuality. Check Descartes.
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Male 2,402
I`ll be the troll here. Then an atheist having a spirituality has a doctrine to live by, Therefore religious in concept. Now how would that affect the 1st amendment on establishing religion over another. Especially when an Atheist says Christian doctrine is offending their right in the court room. Yaddah yaddah.

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Male 5,194
Bleah. I don`t believe in magic voodoo either, but this vid really sucked.
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Male 257
music from american beauty !
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Male 19
Oh how I love the coincidence that his name is "A. Hughman"
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Male 329
Meh, as an "atheist" I think spirituality is probably not the best term for him to use, I`d place him more in the agnostic realm...Humanism might be a better term to use when defining the essence of human than "spirituality" as spirituality in any sense correlates with a "spirit" or something outside of the realms of reality or science, a "higher power". True we live in a universe full of things much grander, larger and magnificent than ourselves, infinite forces at work, but they are not spiritual or supernatural powers and he admits this..I don`t think spirit or spirituality as terms to describe an atheist`s experience really is needed or applicable.
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Male 6
It`s like watching the end of American Beauty on repeat for 5 minutes.
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Male 533
I think it`s absolutely amazing that we can see the universe as it is. Sentience is a wondrous evolutionary event.
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Male 255
@unmercyfuldu: It doesn`t mean just anything though, it`s all about context. That`s the beauty of words and how they can be used. By your rules, any word describing an abstract is rendered useless because diferrent people apply different definitions to it. Take the obvious example `love`, that has a tremendoudly vast number of definitions, is it useless in your world?
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Male 551
That was kinda cheesy, but also very true.
I think all atheist will agree with him generally
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Male 17,511
He`s at the very least an agnostic, possibly a `naturalist` as well.
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Female 98
Nice.
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Female 803
Great points, I totally agree as an atheist.
Side note, what is the background song at the beginning the same one in Six Feet Under?
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Male 16
Seriously, what a drating wanker. He needs to grow a pair and stop talking about feelings and emotions.
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Male 131
Yep - He`s pretty much nailed it. Even better, he`s done it in a way that shouldn`t provoke outrage from Fundies.
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Male 1,256
Man, this nailed it for me. As an atheist myself, I place a lot of my spirituality in the awe of nature, and recognize that there is beauty that is not accredited to any sort of super-being. But more importantly, I`m off to go eat some apple butter on a biscuit!
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Male 28
As much as you can agree or disagree with what this guy has to say, it`s nice that he`s put so much thought into how he see`s life. It`s certainly made me think about alot.
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Male 807
I agree s0rd3dvis1on, but they have a 1000 character limit and it was just over, I should have just linked the source but then it may have not have got read and understood as well what I was getting at:)
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Male 2,388
That was beautiful and the canusuck despite the name it was a very good speech although part of me wishes it had ended a post earlier
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Male 15,510
Booooring
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Male 57
Wait until he gets a little smarter and realizes he`s a druid, not Atheist.
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Male 762
@canusuck

It is exactly like Einstein using "God" and "spirituality" to describe his amazement in the universe. And to this day a great many people think Einstein was a theist. Not only that, people go one stop further to claim him as one of the greatest theist thinkers in history as to lend credibility to their beliefs in God. He went through great lengths to explain how he is defining the terms, just as the guy in this video does, and after all that it is still misunderstood due to the amorphous nature of those words.
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Male 807
mind a mere image of the lofty structure of all that there is."
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Male 807
Einstein`s speech to the German League of Human Rights "Our situation on this earth seems strange. Every one of us appears here involuntary and uninvited for a short stay, without knowing the whys and the wherefore. In our daily lives we only feel that man is here for the sake of others, for those whom we love and for many other beings whose fate is connected with our own." ... "The most beautiful and deepest experience a man can have is the sense of the mysterious. It is the underlying principle of religion as well as all serious endeavour in art and science. He who never had this experience seems to me, if not dead, then at least blind. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is a something that our mind cannot grasp and whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly and as a feeble reflection, this is religiousness. In this sense I am religious. To me it suffices to wonder at these secrets and to attempt humbly to grasp with my mind a mere i
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Male 807
@unmercyfuldu

I see what you are saying, but it is in a way the same way Einstein/Hawking use the word "God", his "spirituality" is his own way of interpreting things and it is inspiring and well thought out
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Female 8,051
Um- I am an atheist- I believe in no god, or indeed a higher power. I cannot prove there is no god, and as an agnostic I would acknowledge the fact that with out proof I was unsure. But I AM sure- so, I am an atheist. But how to define the sum of electrical impulses inside my head that make me self aware enough to have a `me`, well- perhaps the word `spirit` works? I am aware, I think, I do not merely exist. The essence of me is my soul- I am spiritual, but my soul cannot exist if you liquidise my brain- it is my brain!
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Male 25,416
wow, religion on IAB? never expected that
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Male 5,164
This guy is agnostic not atheist.
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Female 595
@ DixXyRarr: Absolutely :)
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Male 1,610
"Atheism is starting to piss me off like any other religion. Can we just live our lives and stop being lil whiny attention whores about everything??


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Male 667
Atheism is starting to piss me off like any other religion. Can we just live our lives and stop being lil whiny attention whores about everything??
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Male 694
I agree with what he is saying, but I bet this guy is a total d-bag.
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Female 1,148
"He can put apple butter on my biscuit any day. "


YEAHHHHHH
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Male 55
Life is amazing. The world is amazing. The Universe is amazing. Get over it.
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Male 540
I totally agree with unmercyfuldu.

Etymologically, the word "spirit" may be somewhat appropriate for the definition as proposed in the video, but popular usage makes it difficult to ascribe any specific meaning to it which would be free of religious associations.

It`s also curious that people here are suggesting that he shouldn`t get "hung up on a word", since the entire purpose of the video is for the author to illustrate the full meaning of his concept of the word.

I think "awe" is useful, but, conversely, doesn`t have enough of an emotive impact to fully encapsulate what is essentially a universal-reverence.
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Male 762
@aikiman

It isn`t my "narrow" definition that is the problem, it is the tremendously vast definitions people apply to the word that make it useless. Something that means anything can`t mean anything at all.

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Male 762
I think it is funny how you have all read what you wanted from my comments rather than what I actually said. I stated that I enjoy what he had to say and I agree with it. It is beautiful. And yes, he defined how he used "spirituality" very well. But the only way to get people to accept that definition is with a five minute monologue explaining how you are defining it, which just shows how dysfunctional the word is in practical use. Don`t mistake this as my plight, anyone involved in a larger conversation about atheism and the equivocation fallacies surrounding words like belief, faith, soul and spirit will understand how everyday use (as in without five minute monologues defining words)detracts from what the user is trying to explain.

In this context he goes through great lengths to define "spiritual." Don`t think it will convey such meaning in general conversation.
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Male 255
@unmercyfuldu: Just because it doesn`t fit your narrow definition doesn`t make it useless. Spirit is the word he uses and we all understand what he means. Haven`t you ever read poetry or listened to song lyrics? You`ll find that people use the `wrong` words all the time. How often have you used the word `gay` to mean happy?
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Female 2,674
He can put apple butter on my biscuit any day.

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Male 684
@ unmercyfuldu
if you get caught up in words that trigger your own prejudice, and let it detract from your experience, you are only cheating yourself. self aware consciousness is so utterly complex its hard to name. What would you call the experience of wonder when you witness something awesome? Now what part of your biological mechanics provides that ability. Science has a decent understanding of it, right down to the chemical processes involved, but we don`t have a common word for it.This guy used the word spirit to refer to what we cannot clearly and easily define, yet you allowed your negative associations with religion to take away from the feeling he was trying to share with you. I think this is a wonderful alternative to all the militant atheist propaganda out there as some people need a kick in the mush, and other require only a whisper.
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Male 2,419
@unmercyfuldu
Spirituality does not require belief in God or creationism. His use of the word is correct, your ignorance is your own.
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Male 114
His premise for using "spirituality" is simply the mind being in awe of beauty and the magnificent universe. He did not reference a Creator. I think this video is simply redefining the saturated meaning of "spirituality" is all.
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Male 114
Very eliquently done and the message equates nicely to my own feelings. I do like his final thought that with regards to beauty that we may well be the only things that can appreciate it (so far as we know).
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Female 66
I just clicked on the youtube link and apparently this video has been flagged as inappropriate?! Seriously?!
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Male 881
I think there would be a lot more atheists if theists realized that they don`t have to lose the things they like about religion, just the dogma and ignorance.
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Male 762
"Can Atheists have spirituality? Wouldn`t that be Agnosticism?"

This is EXACTLY why I point out the misleading and useless nature of the word "spirituality."
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Female 8,051
Yeah- don`t get hung up on a word. I agree with him, I also find myself thinking how that it is, that those who believe in an afterlife spend so much time and energy thinking about it. They must miss so much of this one tiny chance we get just to exist. I am so lucky to be alive- in a long line of lucky ones- what gets me is that every one of my ancestors ( and yours if you can read this) has been able to live long enough to reproduce. All the way back to the very first cell on this planet!
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Male 762
@madest

We just simply don`t use words that are void of meaning. That is like asking how an atheist find functional use for "fatwa" in their daily language.

When it comes to a word that expresses the awesomeness described in this video we can either try to claim "spirit" as the definition (which will never happen and only cause more headache) or develop new language.
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Female 2,525
"Can Atheists have spirituality? Wouldn`t that be Agnosticism?"

Agnoticism acknowledges the possibility of a higher power, so no.
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Female 595
Can Atheists have spirituality? Wouldn`t that be Agnosticism? Anyway, I want to find this guy and have his babies. :)
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Female 2,525
But then you miss out on the opportunity to use the word "narwhality".
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Male 7,378
@unmercyfuldu, I agree with you for the most part. Many terms that athiests need to deal with were derived from religion. How is an athiest supposed to respond to the word "sin", "prayer" or "blessing"? All loaded bull-S words and phrases that mean nothing unless you believe in an invisible man in the sky.
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Male 762
@zombunny

Those words would be equally as useless. What he says here is beautiful and amazing and I don`t wish to detract from that. But he uses the word "spirit" which from the atheist standpoint and narrative has caused a lot of headache.

So as I stated I share his feelings but the word "spirit" sacrifices, with its confusing nature, the awesomeness of these realizations.
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Male 2,220
..and here`s mine..

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Female 2,525
"While he has defined "spirit" in a way that I agree with I still think the word is almost useless. It means something different to every person and therefore has no practical function. I am sure this thread will be filled with people arguing that his use of "spirit" is actually their own and he actually senses the supernatural even though he so explicitly defines how he uses the word. It is a loaded, useless and misleading word that spoils whatever it is you wish to describe."

Getting hung up on a word would be missing the point of this. It`s silly. He only uses it for lack of a better word to explain how he feels. If it makes you feel better, replace it with a different word. Narwhal, for instance, or perhaps donut.
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Male 762
While he has defined "spirit" in a way that I agree with I still think the word is almost useless. It means something different to every person and therefore has no practical function. I am sure this thread will be filled with people arguing that his use of "spirit" is actually their own and he actually senses the supernatural even though he so explicitly defines how he uses the word. It is a loaded, useless and misleading word that spoils whatever it is you wish to describe.
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Female 2,525
I imagine most atheists feel this way, no? I certainly do. I didn`t think it was anything new.
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Male 1,016
This is beautiful !
This video captures, both in images and words, what religion has seem to have forgotten through the years. That spirituality is about celebrating life in all it`s glory and wonder, and taking the time to sit and be totally captivated by your own personal "apple butter and biscuits"
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Male 1,587
The man`s a poet. I love this, and how it goes along with the pictures by the astronaut earlier.
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Male 605
Its not that I agree or disagree, it`s just that I don`t f*cking care.
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Male 74
Link: My Spirituality As An Atheist [Rate Link] - This guy is an atheist, but he`s spiritual. Here`s how he justifies his thinking. Do you agree with him? Disagree?
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