Last Night`s State of the Union Address

Submitted by: fancylad 6 years ago in

Just in case you missed it. What do you think, I-A-B? Comments? Questions? Hopes? Fears?
There are 89 comments:
Female 465
This was a campaign speech. We`ve had 2 years to see what he`s all about. He`s proved that he can talk a good game, but when push comes to shove he`s only voting present.
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Female 3,598
i will vote for him again, to see if he can keep his promises. i hope he can.
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Male 2,384
i dont care about politics anymore, just no. obama needs to grow a pair and show republicans whos the president (yes pun intended)
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Male 6,693
So I guess in the U.S. science and technology sector every one is just at home screwing off eating P.B.&Js and popcorn watching old sci fi tv shows all day. Then all of a sudden the president comes out and says " Its time for new science and technology." and they are all "Dang." "So much for that.". Looks like its back to work for the science and technology sector.
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Male 985
skip to 7 mins to skip clapping, sweet jesus

22:54 lol lag
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Male 254
thought it was a great state of the union... less about bragging about the so-called "accomplishments" of his administration thusfar, and instead more of an outline of what he wants or envisions the future of this country to be. drat Fox News, and god bless Obama.
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Male 2,388
the clapping is sort of tantric
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Male 41,079
Gee @madest, your chart doesn`t mention who controls Congress. You know, the ones who ACTUALLY propose the budget? Or how many wars were underway. Typical leftist propoganda fail.
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Male 41,079
More smoke and mirrors from the empty suit!
Ooo, buzz-words and grapics! THAT`s gotta be good policy, it has graphics! More promises, oh wait, some of them were from his pre-election campaign, and he broke them. Oh well, he`ll keep those promises NOW! Suuuure he will.
vv @zombieland, he didn`t shake
this guy`s hand! (16 second video! idk who that guy is)
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Female 500
kinda makes me want to become a citizen.
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Male 418
HOLY TAP DANCING JESUS. after every one clapped for 5 minutes while he shaked every hand in that f*cking room, twice. i couldn`t watch anymore. every body shut the f*ck up. and Obama, stop patronizing get up their and do ur drating job. talk to ur friends later.
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Male 7,378
It was not off the books...it was off budget.

That means that Congress passed supplemental spending bills to fund the war. It was reflected in each years total National Debt count, but not as a budget deficit.
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Male 3,667
I Wonder why they staggered the congress people as they did...

Oh yeah, it`s to add gaps in the seating so it looks like more people are supporting Obama than who really do.
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Male 2,988
@madest. your chart seems to be missing the past 2 years. i feel something is trying to be hidden.
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Male 301
Meh...more of the same: catchy verbiage, vague/contradictory messages, and unrealistic grandiose promises. Seems awfully familiar somehow...let`s see...where did I hear all this before? Oh, right. His campaign speeches two years ago. I guess he`s banking on few people actually learning from history. Fun. I wonder how many Oscars he`s going to win this year (he might as well since their giving Nobel prizes away in cereal boxes these days).
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Male 292
The united states GDP is $14 trillion. it`s weird because that`s out debt too.
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Male 10,338
Cold War was some scary poo. I`m glad Reagan spent his ass off. Carter was an ass for not doing so.
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Female 1,893
That post @ auburn junky.
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Female 1,893
uhh i was born in ukraine my family directly affected by it... but yea i was too young to remeber. and im asking about the war in iraq.. AND afghanistan even tho he didnt mention that one.
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Male 868
Yeah CLinton saved money by cutting defense spending, undermin ing national security leaving us an easy target for terrorist attack. When you think 911 think thanks Bill- go bang another intern..
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Male 590
haha @ "put all the things on the books that bush concealed".... bush didn`t "hide spending", they just mislabeled it to make justifying it easier... all of Bush`s spending was still "on the books", it was just in different places... God you`re a gullible kool-aid drinking moron...
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Male 590
boooooriiiiiiiing
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Male 10,855
[quote]Like I said, I just want all this to be over.[/quote]


As do I my friend.
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Male 10,338
Touche Cajun.

Like I said, I just want all this to be over.

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Male 10,855
But Clinton vetoed A LOT of republican spending bills.
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Male 10,338
@Cajun:

He expanded the CRA though.
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Male 10,338
@mountain: Cold war is over, yes. Are you old enough to REALLY remember it?
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Male 10,855
@auburnjunky


Maybe it was Reaganomics but I still don`t believe "Clinton destroyed it" as a matter of fact both Bush Sr. and Clinton made an effort to tackle the deficit (albeit if it meant raising taxes). I look at those charts and swear if Clinton had a third term the debt would`ve actually shrunk. Hell he could`ve even had the chance to completely reverse the CRA decision.
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Female 1,893
so the war is rly over??? lol REALLLLY??
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Male 25,416
Cool!
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Male 10,338
LOL Cajun.

I just want it to be like it was when Clinton was in office. That`s when I was finally old enough to actually KNOW how living in the real world felt. Ever since then, it`s been downhill.

Sucks.
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Male 7,378
I`ll quit "worrying about Bush" when he`s jailed for war crimes.

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Male 10,855
[quote]Then Clinton said "Looky! A surplus!" and went spend crazy.[/quote]

I thought you said we had surplus immediately after Bush left office. Never mind.
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Male 10,855
[quote]No, I hate him for that reason EXACTLY.[/quote]



Okay then, one more thing: almost all congressional republicans approved the measure (4 senators and 35 reps 25 of which GOP voted nay another 16 abstain).
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Male 25
@madest Do you know who creates the budget. The president is only one of the signatures on the budget. Quit worrying about Bush. He`s gone, lets curtail the current government spending of our money.
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Male 25
@Bubbarider66

Its called the CBO (Congressional Budget Office). Thats OK, you`ve probably never heard of it. What do you mean conservative fiscal policies don`t work very long. Europe and Australia are moving towards fiscal conservatism because their liberal spending has ruined their economies. Liberals like to point out the deficit under Bush and then ignore the current deficit. Why can`t we agree that Government is never going to be as efficient as the private sector and try to minimize it as much as possible.
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Male 10,338
@Cajun: No, I hate him for that reason EXACTLY.
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Male 10,338
"The latter didn`t happen."

Yes it did! We had a BUDGET surplus several years under Clinton. Do you really remember this personally, or are you looking at graphs?
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Male 842
@IceDragon-The odds of a President (ANY President) doing something that the majority of people will like are next to nothing. No matter what a leader does, there`s always going to be at least half the country against it.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Okay you really want this done? Okay, sign here. Don`t read the last few pages. That`s the spending plan. Just focus on what you want.[/quote]





You hate Bush Jr. but you won`t hate him for NOT reading the fine print?
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Male 7,378
[quote]@madest Here are some facts for you to consider. I will refrain from giving any opinion on these numbers.[/quote]
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Wow that`s some list. That jump from 2008-2009 is staggering. Do you wonder at all why that is? It`s because Obama put all the things on the books that Bush concealed during his presidency. Isn`t it nice to have a President who isn`t afraid to show you the spending you suddenly seem to care so much about?

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Male 10,855
[quote]Then, Bush raised taxes, and the the economic boom slowed, but we still achieved surplus.[/quote]

The latter didn`t happen.
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Male 10,338
@cajun:

Forced meaning, "Okay you really want this done? Okay, sign here. Don`t read the last few pages. That`s the spending plan. Just focus on what you want."
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Male 10,338
@Cajun: We were also at war.

After the cold war ended, the Reagan economic policy started to take effect, because we got to cut some of the programs were were engaged in.

Then, Bush raised taxes, and the the economic boom slowed, but we still achieved surplus.

Then Clinton said "Looky! A surplus!" and went spend crazy. Did a bunch of popular stuff in public (Rebate), and more unpopular, expensive things behind the scenes (Almost a trillion in NEW spending, that was delayed until he left office. Kinda like health care, which doesn`t hit until 2016, Obama`s last year.) See the strategy?

"Oh look at that Republican! His policy is costing too much money! HIS health care spending is destroying us!"

Watch, it will happen.
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Male 10,855
[quote]"forced onto an outgoing"[/quote]



The democrats did NOT have enough seats to override a veto. Forced my 455.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Bush 1 slowed it down, and Clinton destroyed it.[/quote]


I`ve looked at the graphs so many that I don`t buy this at all. Furthermore during the Reagan administration the debt tripled from 900 billion to 2.8 trillion, and Reagan raised taxes three times.
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Male 7,839
the basics of democrats and republicans economically:

democrat: increase taxes, increase spending.
republican: decrease taxes, increase spending.

one of these doesn`t seem right?
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Male 60
Contrary to what some people think they know, Obama had always been centrist. He has not moved one iota from what he has always said about every policy position he has made public for the last 10 years. How else do you get Liberals looking for another candidate? He just seems liberal because the country has moved so far to the right. Centrist to them is liberal. However, they are wrong. Conservative policies have never worked for very long. There was a Renaissance for a reason, and it`s because conservative policies were killing Europe. You can look it up. Every single time conservatives get into office they screw it up so badly that the country has to move back to the left for twice the amount of time just to make things correct again. Oh, and to Mirage6, I don`t know where you got your numbers on the federal deficit, but they are completely wrong. Budget deficit by year 2001-5 trillion (after Bush was elected) 2002-6T, 2003-7T, 2007-9T, 2010-14T. All figures from the US Treasury.
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Male 490
Meh, lets see if he gets away from the microphone and actually does something this year (and something the majority of people will like).
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Male 10,338
To madest`s point the sharp increase in the deficit from 2008 to 2009 was spending ultimately "forced onto an outgoing" George Bush Jr. "by the Democrat congress."

Edited for accuracy.
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Male 25
Thanks auburnjunky. Some people like to over simplify things. Also, drworm, just because Bush had poor spending policies doesn`t mean Obama`s spending is good. They can both have bad spending habits.
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Male 10,855
@Mirage

To madest`s point the sharp increase in the deficit from 2008 to 2009 was spending ultimately approved by George Bush Jr.
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Male 1,011

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Male 10,338
@drworm:

Nooooo. The good years that happened under Clinton was Reaganomics at work. Bush 1 slowed it down, and Clinton destroyed it.

Clinton then expanded the CRA (Community Re-investment Act) and started the downfall. Bush 2 added to it (More accurately the Democrat congress that forced his stupid hand), and then poo REALLY hit the fan when Obama took office, and the democrat congress was left unchecked.
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Male 10,338
@mirage:

Welcome to IAB!

Secondly, fighting Madest with fact and proof doesn`t work. Do not bother.
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Male 662
@Mirage6 You are missing one thing...The good years were from Clinton. You want to know how a good a president is? Go from two years into his presidency to the years after. Try 03-10 were the Bush economic years. We are in this hole because of him. It will get better give it time.
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Male 5,194
>>I`d trade Canada`s finest moose for Sarah Palin!

DEAL! Ha! Sucker.
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Male 25
@madest Here are some facts for you to consider. I will refrain from giving any opinion on these numbers.

The US budget deficit by year

2001: $127.3 billion surplus
2002: $157.8 billion
2003: $374 billion
2004: $413 billion
2005: $319 billion
2006: $248 billion
2007: $162 billion
2008: $455 billion
2009: $1.4 trillion
2010: $1.35 trillion
2011 projected: $1.5 trillion

Average deficit 2001 - 2008 = $250 billion
Average deficit 2009-2011 = 1.42 trillion
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Male 3,667
Obama said all the right things.

Too bad his policies don`t match....
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Male 1,547
I didn`t mind most of the statements of policy, It`s good to see him moving more centrist. However If he really wants to do all those great things, he has to realize that they will all be mind-blowingly expensive, which contradicts his other claims of cutting back on spending.
I think the whole point of this speech was to hijack Republican fiscal policy so he can take credit for anything that gets done this year in the 2012 election. As long as the policy gets passed, I guess I don`t have much of a problem with that.
Also, half those deadlines are blatantly unrealistic, especially in the clean power part.

The Republican response was trying too hard to oppose Obama when he basically conceded to Republican policy. I didn`t bother watching the Tea Party because I hate Michelle Bachmann with a passion as a Minnesotan.
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Male 214
I`d trade Stephen Harper for Bama any day!
and
I`d trade Canada`s finest moose for Sarah Palin!
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Male 10,338
And here`s Madest to let us all know his "correct" opinion.
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Male 7,378
Obama was good but damn the republicans are a fractured mess. Both republican counter speeches weren`t honest. Until they can admit to themselves that Bush was a disasterous president they`ll have no credibility with intelligent voters. We remember how bad things were under Bush. The cries about Obama`s spending are hypocritical. They need to prove they can be fiscally responsible before criticising anyones spending.
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Male 288
Liar liar pants on fire.
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Male 240
Only thing I want to hear out of his mouth is "I Quit"
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Male 14,331
I think if they didn`t clap this would`ve been abut 15 minutes STOP FRIGGEN CLAPPING AT EVERYTHING!!
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Female 47
He`s a good speaker. A very good speaker. But actions speak louder than words. If, by 2015, they really do have more electric vehicles on the roads? Then, good for him, I`ll believe him then. Until he stops talking and starts doing, I`m not interested.

As the one true King once said.... "A little less conversation, a little more action, baby."
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Male 1,010
USA is under a heavy attack by liberty and freedom of speech. I mean putting only one journalist in jail isn`t gonna help much... Did he mention that?
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Male 359
"POLITIGASM"

Wow. Did you invent that? If so, fine work sir.
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Male 1,399
I don`t listen to what politicians say; they`re professional speakers.

I only watch what they do.
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Male 100
Gerry hit it on the head. I watched the entire address and have come to the conclusion that politicians are great liars. All I saw was a ton of promises made to fix everything ... but at who`s expense ?.

Obama is a great orator , he doesn`t have the full backing of any party... but he isn`t to blame for our recession.
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Male 2
Difficult to top the Tucson speech.
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Male 137
He could`ve held the mic. to his ass and farted, and it would`ve been about the same to me.
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Male 10,338
"Lower taxes and cut spending and jobs will result."

YES! YES! YES! OMG! POLITIGASM!!!!1.....

Okay. Anybody got a tissue?
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Male 359
Like him or not, the man gives a good speech. A lot of this seemed to be sort of recycled from the SOTU address last year. The word "Spending" has been replaces with "Invest" I see. The thing that worries me (from him and politicians on both sides) is this "we need to create jobs" stuff. It is NOT the governments responsibility or place to create jobs. Lower taxes and cut spending and jobs will result.
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Male 3,076
DGASDW
(Don`t give a poo, didn`t watch)
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Male 40,216
Let me sum it up for you.

First he was applauded for showing up.
Then after a couple of half truths he was applauded again.
Applause resumed after a few misdirections.
An empty call for bipartisanship was met with applause.
Damn lies got a standing ovation.
Next came lofty goals with no effort to achieve them. Thunderous Applause.
Lies through statistics are always met favorably.

In short, it was the same as every other SOTU speach ever given.

GLEE was good though.
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Male 10,338
ts;dc

(too stupid; don`t care)
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Male 397
Too long, did not watch.
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Male 1,455
Best part: 1:56.
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Male 47
It was aight.
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Male 5,314
tl;dw
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Male 193
You know whenever they replay football games the week after, how they cut out the huddle and any clock wasting. Can someone do that to this video?(with the clapping and standing parts)
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Male 7,839
goldfishgal, sadly true.
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Male 7,839
angelmassb, we can only hope.
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Female 426
I thought it was a well delivered, well thought out speech with good points and ideal plans. However, most of them are and never follow through so...bleh.
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Male 57
The speech made me want to rub out a family of feral cats using an aerosol can and a torch.
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Male 15,510
This is just the NWO Reptilian Illuminati agenda to bring back the ancient Sumerian Gods hidden deep inside our hollow earth waiting for Niburu to appear from the hidden side of the moon
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Male 21,000
Link: Last Night`s State of the Union Address [Rate Link] - Just in case you missed it. What do you think, I-A-B? Comments? Questions? Hopes? Fears?
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