Is God A Video Gamer?

Submitted by: madest 6 years ago in Science

An interesting theory of the universe.
There are 111 comments:
Male 3
@generic_man
vector graphics are also made of pixels my uneducated friend, only difference is that there`s a formula in the image that allows it to re-create cells so the picture doesn`t get f`ed up as you zoom in. It`s hard to create images though, usually it`s text and shapes. Everything you see in screens is pixels. tiny dots that the eye can`t detect from far away.

peace :)
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Male 48
Not all computers use pixels to create images. There is a type of pictures which can be zoomed in forever. Its called a vector image.

http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Vector_graphics

The very first argument is invalid.
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Male 235
if this is a game its a crap game and i would rather play viva pinata
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Male 182
@mcfudge

The difference is that the athiests will change their minds if they are shown any proof. Every theist that I have ever spoken to, without exception, is only a theist due to them clinging to their upbringing or because of a fundamental misunderstanding of science.

There is NO evidence at all to suggest the existence of an intelligent creator. If there were, I wouldn`t be an Atheist.

My point was that, if there is something that can be accurately described as "God" out there, it is definitely not going to be the one written about in any existing religious text.
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Male 4,546
Pffft. Morgan is just messing with us. We`ve seen Bruce Almighty, you can`t fool us!
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Male 131
Maybe it was a bit crass to say "Just forget it all", but still, to the majority of the population mentally ill-equipped to actually search for answers for themselves, it might be the best option.

Let`s face it. The majority of us are not Einstein or Hawking. Speculations into what could be without concrete evidence, intellectual nous, and the willingness to concede that a theory is flawed is a dangerous thing, especially when the critics are very vocal & very influential.

On the flipside, to the religious who seem to have forgotten that the Bible is just a collection of stories & archaic rules, passed down like chinese whispers, retranslated several times, abused, & misquoted over the years, take a leaf out of the book, Judge not lest ye be judged, and just let everyone else get on with their lives with whatever paths they choose.

This whole science v. religion thing is almost like than a playground fight over which WWF wrestler is bet
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Male 117
@Flying_cow_ - Bah! Never in the history of man has knowledge caused regression. The more we learn, the more questions we have. We`ll always be learning, always be asking, no matter what our fates are or what the answer to that question is.

@shappy - Punctuation, man! Punctuation!
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Female 24
So, if none of this is real, what would you do? What does it matter is this is only a simulation or if this is real. It`s real to us, and that`s good enough for me.
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Male 120
LOL, I am amused and slightly less bored, however I can`t help but think that the only thing worse than not knowing would be that knowledge itself. There`s an old saying be careful what you wish for. After all if you really want to know whats what just look around you you silly goat.
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Male 914
"The sooner people (religious & non-religious) just accept that there are things in the universe too big for us to understand, the sooner we can stop bickering about where we come from."

The stupidity of this statement is making my head hurt.
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Male 4,290
[quote]The sooner people (religious & non-religious) just accept that there are things in the universe too big for us to understand, the sooner we can stop bickering about where we come from.[/quote]

That is intellectual cowardice. It is the drive to understand that has gotten human civilisation to where it is today. The attitude of shrugging and saying "we`ll never understand it, let`s just accept it" would have us all still living in caves with a life expectancy of 40 at the outside.
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Male 756
that morgan freeman, everyone already knows hes god hes just so smart nice hes just letting us find the proof for ourselves!
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Male 131
Yes, Madest, but it`s a very wide leap to go from "Quantum particles behave differently when observed", to "Things only exist when you see them".

Science has discovered too many interesting properties with regards to quantum particles to list, but if anything, scientists have proved that quantum particles do exist even when they`re not being observed. They are still immesureable and still an enigma, but the diffuse state of the unobserved quantum particle is only one of a number of possibilities.

And this whole hypothesis is not science, it`s not even a theory. It`s a philosophy, and an old one at that, first hypothesized by George Berkeley, given a new cyber-twist for the new millenium, then dressed up & strung out to make a TV show.
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Male 131
Interesting theory, but badly presented, and too many "If"->"Therefore" moments.

Also, redefined quantum mechanics into something it`s not, and took an obscure experiment to base a hypothesis of "If you observe it, it`s there, if you can`t it`s not" - I`m aware of the double slit & Shroedingers Cat experiments, but they dealt with quantum waveforms, and scientists are still puzzling to this day about why light behaves as waves AND particles. Taking a theory and forcing a logical hypothesis is not much better than..well..saying that some guy with a beard said "let there be light!"

The sooner people (religious & non-religious) just accept that there are things in the universe too big for us to understand, the sooner we can stop bickering about where we come from.
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Male 1,451
Unfortunately no one can be told what the matrix is, you have to see it for yourself.

PS: Anyone else think that god (read: Morgan Freeman) is just f-cking with us now? I mean, we know who he is, and he keeps trying to say he`s not god.
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Male 150
SOMEone has watched the matrix one too many times...
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Male 25,416
Lets settle the arguement, if there is no god, how could i be gods gift to woman :-P
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Male 537
Haha... look at all you guys, arguing on IAB about whether or not there is a god. Instead of making yourselves look like idiots on the internet, try to support of refute his theory. Seriously, take a step back and look at yourselves... I`m sure each of you will see nothing but a close minded idiot.
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Male 4,745
@EntrE,

Well, I suppose the big bang could still be called a "starting point". But simply a starting point for the universe in it`s current state (within the confines of my theory, of course.)

I like to look at the dimensions in a more tangible way. More as a measurable portion of existence. We can quantify the limitations of this dimension in it`s speed, temperature (which is technically a speed limitation) and size limitations. I believe that the fastest speed possible here (the speed of light) is the slowest speed in a higher dimension. This explains the "time stops at the speed of light" phenomenon that the math and practical data point to. It seems to stop because you`ve reached, the slowest speed in the higher dimension.

We have measurable confines, at either end of the scale, that define our dimension and decide it`s physics and laws.
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Male 4,745
@deeplick,

No, you`re right. The inconsistencies in science prove there is a God.
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Male 792
[quote]big band theory[/quote]

)-| I knew Glenn Miller was up to no good.
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Male 593
@Deeplick - I doubt Richard Dawkins would have said that it was DEFINITELY aliens with space rocks that created us... I`m sure it was a hypothetical theory. The theory in the video makes some sense, and it`s been thought up before. For example, as jsatan said, The Truman show. There are countless theories, this is another one that is attempting to make sense of why we exist. Who knows which one is correct (if any). I do quite like the sound of patchouly`s thory... it`s definitely plausible.
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Male 535
@patchouly
I had the same idea, but when I read into the big band theory it really doesn`t contradict that theory. It actually explains how an infinite past can still be infinite and have a starting point at the same time :)
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Male 234
@Lobotomy exactly. They took the god theory and replaced it with nothing, then called it the big bang theory and called us nut jobs.

Oh want to know what I find most insulting? I watched a show that showed a interview of Clinton Richard Dawkins who claimed that beings from another planet came to earth with space rocks and placed the rocks on earth and from those came the first cells. So in that mind set we all evolved from rocks brought here by aliens. Righto atheist and you call us god believers whack jobs, when you can`t even agree on how evolution works! What a mockery of not only yourselves but science as a whole.
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Male 4,745
...written by guys who`s existence seems to have come from no where.

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Male 15,510
This must be the most boring videogame eveeeeer
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Male 4,745
@Lobotomy,

I have a "crackpot theory" of my own. I believe that this dimension exists because of a break down of a higher dimension. Possible this one is more stable and has been able to flourish.

Where did the previous dimensions come from you ask? Simple they were always there. Our lives are finite. The matter around us is finite. But the existence of reality is infinite. Regardless of what form it takes on, it will always exist.

If it`s possible for the time line to stretch on for infinity, forward, then it is also possible for it to stretch for infinity into the past.

Everything always was and always will be. in what ever form it may be in. IMO, the big bang wasn`t "the start of it all", but just another natural occurrence in the universe in which we live.

As crazy a theory as that is, I believe it holds way more water then the magical sky wizard, aliens or computer programs that somehow were written by guy
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Male 495
"@ patchouly, This theory is a million times more plausible than a supreme being that popped into existence from nowhere and created everything from nothing. Or is it?"

Isn`t that what the Big Bang theory is? Except you replace the `supreme being` with... nothing.
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Male 4,745
@Madest.

I`m an Atheist. By no means am I suggesting that the ridiculousness of this theory makes religion more plausible. The "giant, invisible sky wizard" theory still has them beat as "the most ridiculous of them all", in my books.
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Male 2,579
Hmmmm
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Male 7,378
@ patchouly, This theory is a million times more plausible than a supreme being that popped into existence from nowhere and created everything from nothing. Or is it?
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Female 115
If our future created us, who created the people from before the computer era? Did they even really exist?
Ahhh, this is making me question what`s real and what`s not. D:
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Male 515
Brings a new meaning to `god is dead`.
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Male 5,189
Morgan is this shiznet!!!
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Male 4,745
@LithiumOne

No, you`re right. Anyone that thinks we aren`t in a computer is a know it all.

Let me put it to you this way LithiumOne; Any idiot can have a theory. That doesn`t mean the rest of us have to consider it beyond it`s face value. When it falls apart or really has no quantifiable evidence beyond "I can see the pixels", it doesn`t warrant much acknowledgment from the scientific community. It`s more in-line with the "science" that was used when coming up with the "Big Foot, Bermuda Triangle and 2012" stuff.
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Male 153
@patchouly

So is the word of patchouly, all-knowing patriarch of the universe! Jackass...
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Male 4,745
This theory is ridiculous. It can sit on the "shelf of ridiculous theories" along side of the "Chariots of the Gods" theory.

Yes, our universe has boundaries. But those boundaries are the limitations of the dimension that we exist within. The basis of this guy`s theory is akin to saying: "it`s cold outside. Therefore we must be living in an ice cream cone".
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Male 2,388
@madest that is a simplistic view. How aware are you of the cells in your bloodstream. The computer would have to calculate every last one of them. Nope the computing power required to generate the universe would require orbably all the energy in the universe.
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Male 256
It could be true, it doesn`t even need to be a simulation. Truman show?
Anyone who just simple dismisses this isn`t really thinking "outside the box", imaging you take some bacterium and place them in a growing medium to observer what they do. Do you think they know you are there and that it`s all a big setup? No due to limitation on their intelligence, same for us, if something out there is smarter they can trick us just the same as mice in a very large maze. In the Truman show Truman doesn`t leave the island as he`s scared of water, others leave fine... outer space is the water for everyone if you really want to compare. If this were a simulation we would never know or be able to know, the simulators or the beings that control the simulation will always be in control and do as they wish. Reminds me of the film "tron" in many ways..... But to dismiss this is just ignorance at it`s best.... One final though, what if all of this is a simulation apart from you who
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Male 230
the deities that exist are our future selves?
PRISONER OF AZKABAN, ANYONE?
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Male 680
I`ve thought of this before, could be true, I suppose.

Another interesting theory I thought up recently;
Memory fades over time, yes? I don`t remember something I did yesterday as easily as I remember something I did five minutes ago. So who`s to say that life itself - what we see and feel - isn`t just a very recent memory? We are conscious of what we do at the time. I`m conscious that I`m typing this message at the moment, but how do I know that I`m not just remembering, in perfect memory, something that `I` (in the immediate future) did seconds ago? Perhaps we don`t really observe, rather we create memories and we, as people, just experience very recent memories.

You might argue immediate infliction, for example if I stabbed myself now, I would feel pain. But perhaps I am simply remembering, in perfect detail, the feeling of pain that I (my body) already experienced. People often remember specific smells or sounds or feelings much more easily when they`re recent
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Male 7,378
Right now the brain has about 100,000X more computing power than your standard computer. But when that ratio hits 1:1 or better then everything this man said is theoretically plausible. Just build a program where the 4 forces in nature exist and let everything run it course. We could be nothing more than Gods screen saver.
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Male 2,388
also if we are in a computer then its obviously an adventure game and god would have left clues to solving it. Everyone look under their pillows and beds for strange pieces of puzzle that have no obvious connection to anything else
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Male 2,388
it bored me. the premise is dumb. Also how the helll did he go from looking at pixels on a computer screen to firing lasers through a decahedron it seems well made argument but in reality its bullpoo.
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Male 405
Morgan Freeman = God
Done :P
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Female 5,222
i wanna watch the whole program >.<!!
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Male 551
Also, we can look at atoms, which we know are NOT a "unit" and they certainly don`t have a specific shape even if they look like that. We know the electrons have an orbit that makes the "size" of the atom, for the lack on another word, and it does it very very fast. Now, my question is, out of all the electrons that the lazer touches, combined with the velocity they travel at and the velocity of the lazer itself, how do we know that those dots aren`t just the reflection of certain places where the lazer reaches the electrons and these reflect the lazer to a certain point?

If I`m wrong about this, please let me know... But for what I`ve read, this is basically how the atom behaves. A nucleus with electrons around a certain orbit (That I also think we have never even seen, but we just predict that there are electrons given the existence of protons and an electromagnetic field, which would be the orbit they make) and not just "a unit"
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Male 551
I don`t know, it seems plausible at times, but I would ask those guys some questions... Like...

When you delete something in a computer or do something in a game, you can always go back and undo what you`ve done, which we can`t do. Or if you delete something for good it just simply banishes (Some people will say that you can rescue archives with certain programs, but sometimes archives do get deleted for ever) and we can`t simply "delete" anything, we know it just changes it`s form.

And, simply predicting some responses some people might have. If god is super powerful and can do this things, why doesn`t he just creates real worlds and people instead of having just a "video game"? Or why does he have to play it himself? Many video games can be left alone and would do even a better job than ourselves, couldn`t he just do that too?... Anyway...
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Male 257
our future selves creating the heritage for their own selves is a paradox the guy being interviewed is a drating retard
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Female 876
and i`ve always thought my player is a child. because he just doesn`t care what i do and sometimes enjoy seeing me suffer.

btw this idea was suggested also by one of the episodes of the twilight zone
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Female 876
i haven`t watch the video yet but that`s not an interesting and original thought.

everyone who has ever played the sims, thought about it
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Male 5,194
Rich Terrile is a TERRIBLE guy to interview for this! The "universe as computer" theory has been around for a while and it`s a very interesting one - the pixels in the universe could be the planc scale and the clock cycle period planc time - but, of course, Rich doesn`t mention any of this. Instead he`s babbling something about being fifty years away from "manufacturing god" and some pointless, useless BS about the odds of him "living on the other side" of that. WTF? Tell us about the parallels to information theory or the possibility that an algorithmically simulated universe could contain apparent non-algorithmic computation!
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Male 182
@auburnjunkie It would be there. You are "observing" it by touching it.
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Male 2,419
@belunan
and when you run a simulation that doesn`t allow for that kind of intervention? your entire comment is the only "bullsh*t" here
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Female 282
@belunan yes but when you play videogames, sometimes you do die, sometimes you find characters that you just want to kill.
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Male 1,505
When I play a video game, my goal is to keep my characters alive.

There is no god that cares if we live or die; therefore a god with such a compulsion does not exist. I call bullsh*t on this entire concept.
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Male 10,338
So if I were to reach behind me, and try to touch something, it wouldn`t be there?
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Male 3,014
I tried to get into this show. Not even the dulcet tones of Morgan Freeman`s narration could make it seem like anything more than another science show pandering to the average-intellect base.
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Male 4,290
Hmm. Possible, but I doubt it. Computer games don`t render things you aren`t looking at in order to save processing power. I highly doubt any computer technologically advanced enough to simulate an entire universe would need to save on processing.

It does raise some interesting questions though. Since there`s no way to prove we`re not part of some computer program, what happens if/when WE develop the technology to run a similar program ourselves? If we create truly intelligent, Turing-complete AI, should we give the simulated beings the same rights as a human? Would we be morally obliged to ensure that the computer keeping the simulations alive is never turned off, since it would effectively be genocide?
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Male 2,619
So what the fuc* is this getting at? We aren`t living in a Matrix or a Sim universe.
Yeah if you zoom in on stuff you cant see it properly because our eyes arent equipped to see it zoomed in.
This is life people, get used to it. We arent in a movie. Dont expect to wake up in the mornin to be a better person. You are you. And always will be
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Male 182
I sort of resent this video. It does contain some glimmers of really fascinating stuff. The notion that our infinitely complex and chaotic universe is, at it`s simplest level, uniform and predictable is a truly amazing thought.

However, it`s one thing to say that it could, theoretically, be simulated and another thing entirely to leap to the conclusion that it IS simulated. By God or... us from the future?! What?

Why can`t people just be astonished by the incredible things that are actually there? There is so much to see in this world, more than any one person can ever see in his or her life time; and there is not one single thing among them that is not entirely fascinating and truly, truly wonderful.
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Male 182
@MOTBO

I was sort of with you up until "The only way to have true free will is to have a situation where there exists the possibility of a creator."

Why? Free will does not require the permission of a higher being. If a higher being has the option of allowing us our free will or not, then surely it isn`t "true" free will.

The requirement for free will is self awareness and the ability to make your own decisions. We don`t need God for that.

On the rest of your post, I think that we agree; but not for the same reasons. There is no way to know for sure that there is no God (there is also no way to know that there is one). The reason that I do not believe in God is because there is simply no reason, other than fear, to believe in him at all.

There is even less reason to believe that any living human being would have special "inside information" that would enable them to write a book about him.
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Male 1,108
[quote]ha, god prefers PS, take that X-bitches[/quote]

It`s not enough to have something you enjoy is it? You have to say something someone else enjoys is rubbish.
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Male 3,301
Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fghtan!
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Male 10,855

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Male 4,680
Something that hit me a few weeks ago:

If we`re living in a simulation of Earth`s history, then we have to follow what our "real life" counterparts did in the past.

So all our actions are pre-planned. Free will is an illusion.

*starts self-harming and listening to screamo music*
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Male 1,523
Reminds me of the G.E.C.K. from Fallout 3.

We must find the failsafe everyone!
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Male 909
I, too, am going with XKCD.
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Male 39,904
God is a gamer? Probably attends ComiCon, too.
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Male 1,744
ha, god prefers PS, take that X-bitches
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Male 115
What a load of bollocks!
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Male 1,744
they`re wrong, it`s all this guy
http://xkcd.com/505/
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Male 168
Rich Turrel thinks we live in the Matrix.
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Male 160
Computers are quantized because reality is quantized. The science channel is a troll.

"Quantum mechanics means its possible everything we see could really be produced by lines of code in a computer"

WOW. just drating wow.
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Male 3,745
"Great, tell people we are living in a video game. Next thing you know, people will be betraying for snipers, kicking chickens, and attempting to cast spells on pigs and scorpions."

too late...
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Male 35
Well aren`t we just dicks.....creating beings with free will, and then creating this world full of pain and suffering for us to live in. Then since this is all fake, it is all for nothing. We are just dicks for doing this in the future.

I think I would rather believe in God.
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Male 39
thing is there are so many theories to it just follow what you beleave it could be
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Male 199
There are just to many paradoxic to make this work but this in theory will only play out in time.
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Male 3,147
@GasMaskKid.... that made me chuckle. :)
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Male 270
God is a Gamer, I know she is, I can tell by the pixels!!!
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Male 2,344
Great, tell people we are living in a video game. Next thing you know, people will be betraying for snipers, kicking chickens, and attempting to cast spells on pigs and scorpions.
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Male 426
im guessing the Bermuda triangle is the server. I must get there and access the terminal so i get an access the console and make tweaks to my life.
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Male 15,510
Great, suddenly we are all The Sims
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Female 129
And it`s all so much cooler that Morgan Freeman is narrating this.
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Male 20
Thank you, SteelAtlas. you saved me the trouble of saying that.
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Male 1,054
logical flaw involved here: both computing itself, and specifically pixels as a technique, were invented by people aware of the natural world - in other words, the test for `is nature a computer program` relies on an approach to computing that is based on nature.

What they are seeing is the influence of the natural world on computing.
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Male 294
Perhaps magic was just an early point in time where the operating system wasn`t locked down and we could gain higher privileges...

Sudo magic missle (of course, I`d cast it at the darkness)

or not...
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Male 694
I just wrote /noclip on a piece of paper.
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Male 47
EntrE

"how does that channel have the right to be called "science channel" when there`s really nothing scientific about this?!"

Because science is very much a collection of ever changing theories and "facts." What we knew even as little as 20 years ago has changed radically just as what we know now will probably also be radically altered as science makes progress. Science isnt a field of "definitive answers" but rather as close as we can get within our current means and understanding.

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Male 2,402
Hmm...Either he`s a Mormon or he should read up on such. Especially Joseph Smiths King Follet Discourse.
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Male 270
God has aimbot!
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Male 2,033
"whoa"
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Male 3,147
I think god should have concentrated more on the gameplay.


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Male 533
Is it a coincidence that Morgan Freeman, God Himself, is narrating this?

Lol. Jk. I just hope they programmed a Matrix-style heaven. I don`t want to be decomposing for eternity XD
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Male 40,739
IS THIS JUST FANTASY??
(lolz @saltynuggets!)
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Male 40,739
"our future selves have become `gods`" - MEH!
Nice try Mr.Egocentric! But being a God or even a `god` is FAR away from what we currently have, or are ever likely to learn.
Besides you cannot change the past, only the future.
8:15 "We finite beings can never understand God" well that makes sense! lolz!
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Male 535
how does that channel have the right to be called "science channel" when there`s really nothing scientific about this?!
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Male 38
IS THIS REAL LIFE?!
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Male 108
I saw this when it aired originally on tv. Pretty good series
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Male 2,049
Photoshoped. I can tell by the tiny little pixels.
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Male 5,413
Morgan Freeman is such a tease. We all know he is god. I saw it in a film once.... or twice.
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Male 153
All those who say that creator existing is impossible needs to humble themselves and their view of mankind.
For me it is not that hard to imagine a multi-dimensional being running a grand science experiment.

If man kind progresses far enough(10,000+ years from now) then we will one day do a similar experiment on free will. The only way to have true free will is to have a situation where there exist the possibility of a creator. I am not so arrogant to think that man-kind is the pinnacle of intelligence.
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Male 2,690
How has Morgan Freeman gone down in the world? He was paid money to stand there and narrate because his voice is appealing.
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Male 335
I wonder if this guy has ever played Spore?
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Male 103
I dislike how they are mentioning a creator on the science channel now.
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Male 101
This is drating freaky
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Male 1,108
Didn`t Douglas Adams come up with this theory 30 years ago?
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Male 2,121
Morgan Freeman has gone down in the world...
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Male 37
Of course he isn`t he using a drating dell. what gamers use a dell?
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Male 5,314
yeah, what if we`re actually the sims?
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Male 7,378
Link: Is God A Video Gamer? [Rate Link] - An interesting theory of the universe.
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