Girlfriend Gets Good Sound Advice [Pic]

Submitted by: madest 6 years ago in Funny

Girl has a boyfriend with car trouble. Looks to the web for help.
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Female 36
Troll.
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Male 559
I have a girl that will do all that and more.

Life is sweet.
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Male 22
Jeep nerds are just as bad as any nerd, apparently. A woman shows up and the whole damn baggage train derails.
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Female 21
1. Good luck finding a girl who will do all that.
2. Option 3 (what I would do) don`t bitch about it, let him do what he wants. No need to help though. Yeah, I`ll make him lunch, dinner, drinks, etc. Bath with him and "screw his ears off", but guess what? I`ve got better poo to do than stand around and watch while you repair your Jeep.
There are couples who can support each other while still having their own lives. And no need to turn your wife/gf into your own personal assistant/concubine!
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Female 27
I treated my husband like that poster said. I treated him like he was made of gold. I even spent $5000 of my money on a tricked out lap top of his dreams that he had wanted for Christmas. And do you know what I got in return? He got another girl pregnant and married her before our divorce was even final. So you know what? There are non-nice individuals and dream killers on both sides.
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Male 604
A bit objectifying of women, but otherwise spot on.
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Male 868
Amen brother!
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Male 64
This man speaks truth.

While I may not entirely agree with the post, I agree with the majority of it. I know acutely what it is like to be chained to a DreamKiller, I know the silent misery as she busts my chops for any infraction... real or imagined.

Believe me, there are days where I`d gladly eat a gun... and this fellow angryman/troll has made this weary soul smile just a little bit for calling her out on her meddling.
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Female 5,222
nice
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Female 228
That guy totally speaks from experience. He wishes his girl does those things to him.

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Male 271
@moefreak no no he does not but if you have encountered a woman such as this you would have the same feeling

and you do not seem to have a clear grasp on how the male ego works we chip a nail bang a knuckle cut our self chip a tooth scrape a few layers of skin off we grit our teeth and don`t burden or rely on others ALSO unless you encounter a nihilist every man would rather have a woman who says never say never honey im so proud of you not quit now before i leave and dont give you enough time to get away from the fan which will soon have s hit hitting it

walk one day in the life of a male living in this double standardistic society where women can set a man on fire literally with a torch and the man just has to stand there pretending it never happened and if he lays so much as a single finger on said torch-er in anger while he is ablaze he is condemned by the public

so on that note NEGATIVE WOMEN F U C K Y O U I AGREE WITH THE GUY IN THE POST!. . . tha
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Male 25,416
win
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Male 12,365
[quote]Also the aftermath of WWI was a clusterf*ck, The treaty of Versailles was a huge mistake.[/quote]

That I agree with wholeheartedly. They couldn`t have done much more to lay the foundations for another world war if they tried.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Angilion: Actually it was more than just money, The US sent a lot of equipment, supplies, material, and manpower. Yes, America did profit from it, a little...[/quote]

More than a little. The direct cash profit was minimal, but the technology and political power had huge value.

I don`t blame the USA government for it - they acted in the best interests of the USA, which is what they were meant to be doing. Although defrauding Frederick George Miles was a very low thing to do.

I don`t blame them for not doing more earlier, either. Their hands were tied by huge popular support for isolationism and the checks and balances in the USA political system. Even selling stuff to the UK on the terms they used before the USA entered WW2 was pushing the limits of what they were allowed to do. Good thing they did - Britain might have gone down without it.

What bugs me is the idea that the USA was the glorious noble hero who, from pure altruism, rescued e
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Female 3
Wait. So a girl goes online, says, Hey my boyfriend is trying to rebuild his car and it`s getting to the point that it`s maxing past what he paid for it.
Is it worth it?
And then she gets called a DreamKiller and told to act like a good little slave.
Just because they are not married doesn`t mean she`s not allowed to have an opinion.
She is wondering if it`s worth keeping or selling, probably to inform said boyfriend.
Why the hell this guy decided to insult her and tell her to become completely submissive to her boyfriend makes no sense.
Sure, if she jumps in and helps him out that`s awesome. But she`s not his slave, she`s his partner.
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Female 1,963
This guy... this guy is not someone I want to meet. He really does not seem to have a high opinion of women.
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Female 1,101
I think he assumes a little too much....

How does he know that it is only the boyfriends money that is invested in this little project?
Men can be tools - fortunatley I can spot them- but I`ve also seen them in action. Like my brother who blew crap loads of money on motorcycle parts when he had no steady job and then had to beg his fiance for cigarette money for six months until she dumped his butt.
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Male 17,511
Angilion: Actually it was more than just money, The US sent a lot of equipment, supplies, material, and manpower. Yes, America did profit from it, a little... Very low interest loans were given because we didn`t want to be thought of as azzholes by our friends.

Also the aftermath of WWI was a clusterf*ck, The treaty of Versailles was a huge mistake.

This is why when America goes to war with some country and blow it to bits, we have contractors go there, after hostilities have ended, and rebuild the place better than it was before.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Last I checked the Anglican Church IS the official religion of England. Members of the Monarchy have to be a member.[/quote]

True, but irrelevant.

You are arguing that those things mean that England is ruled by the Anglican church and that courts here are Anglican courts with Anglican preachers as judges.

You are completely wrong. In practice, we have complete seperation of church and state. The church never ruled here and hasn`t had serious power for quite some time.
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Male 12,365
[quote]In most muslim countries you`d be stoned to death


That would be: Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Nigeria, Iraq and Iran.

Then there`s:
Turkey, Indonesia, Syria, Nigeria, Morocco, Libya, Palestine, Albania, Algeria, Djibouti. All of which don`t.[/quote]

You`ve included the same country in both lists and you`ve included at least one secular country in the list of Muslim countries that don`t torture people to death for trivial things.

So my main question is this: Are *any* of those "Muslim" countries that don`t torture people to death actually Muslim countries, i.e. theocracies? I wouldn`t be surprised if none of them are.

Turkey, for example, has an explicitly constitutional seperation of church and state. Islamic groups are, of course, constantly campaigning to overthrow the constitution so they can have unrestricted power. Then they could torture people to death if they wanted to, but they can`t now b
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Female 212
God. I mean, really, I get it`s just an eloquent troll, but F*CK! Sounds like he hates his wife and kids. I get this is supposed to be funny and not all men think this way, but I think I`ll just go drowned my kids and shoot myself anyway. Wouldn`t want any unhappy men out there.
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Male 12,365
[quote]We also helped rebuilt half of Germany, France, and Great Britain.[/quote]

The USA lent some money to the UK. The UK repaid the loan with interest, handed over political power to the USA in many areas, gave the USA a massive leg-up in technology (e.g. jet engine, radar, electronic programmable computer, flyable supersonic plane) and suppressed that technology in the UK so that the USA had a free run at profiting from it.

The UK bought that help and paid a very high price for it. It was not the USA being nice out of the goodness of its heart.
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Male 12,365
[quote]I know it`s probably said 1 skillion times before but, I think that:
1. No one should kill anyone`s dreams in ANY relationship. If it doesn`t affect you, why do you care?
2. If she doesn`t want to help, she shouldn`t have to. She could get her own damned hobby (and she SHOULD). I HATE couples who think they need to do/like/be interested in alllll the same things... it`s unrealistic and just a set up for disaster.[/quote]

It`s been said a few times, but got swamped by arguing.

I think they`re both wrong:

She`s already decided that her boyfriend should sell the car he`s working on. She`s just asking how to sell it to get the most money.

The reply was overboard - there`s supporting your partner and there`s serving them. Which is fine if that`s what you both want, but not for relationships in general.

Unless the money was a real issue, I`d buy him a detailed technical manual for that specific model to show my support and leave h
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Female 146
Okay, as a woman who helps her husband pick out vehicles to rebuild, and loves to hear how happy it makes him to do it, I also know when to sell a lemon... He needs to not be such a complete and total ass, and STFU. She needs to put it up for sale! Late 90`s Cherokee`s are CRAP! It`s the early 90`s you go for!
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Female 72
Hmmmm so many things I could say to this, but then again i rebuilt my own motor by myself, soooooo
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Male 384
@sweetpeadlp: yes, really.

every female in the goddamn world should read this.
and quite a few males, as well.
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Male 24
> sweedpeadlp - she didn`t ask for advice on a car. She asked for advice on a boyfriend.
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Male 5,194
She won`t even read past "You want my opinion?"
Because she doesn`t.
She just wants to complain.
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Male 5,413
That is awesome! Take a hint stereotypical ladies
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Female 49
Really? Geez..all she did was ask for advice on a car. The dude went a little overboard. And he`ll be crying himself to sleep tonight, alone, with a box of soiled kleenex.
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Male 1,627
i love this man. a bible will be writen of him
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Female 386
And yet he will still whine and complain about every single drating thing she does...
Love double standards...
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Female 182
haha bet most guys think like this
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Female 6
I will be taking this man`s advise to heart! My bf needs more love less whining!
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Male 6,693
Hungry or Horney. Thats really all there is to it. Its not that hard. We are just dudes. 1/2 the time we arent even thinking about anything. The other 1/2 is bewbies and what to eat. Oh. and beer. Guys like beer.
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Male 2,850
@JDplaysFF

"Then get ready to go to the mall! Read up on EVERY fashion magazine, go to all those clothing stores, and get ready to giggle and agree with EVERYTHING! Then, afterwards, go home, rub your girlfriend`s feet and do the dishes and be ready to do it all again tomorrow!!!"

Why do you make it sound as if those things are chores?

Spending time with your loved one and sharing in their pleasures is part of the whole reason of being together...it`s part of the reason to be alive.

Were I straight, I would DELIGHT in doing all those things you list. Shame on anyone who wouldn`t.
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Male 128
Epic win
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Male 39,885
According to Dr. Laura Schlessinger, here are the 3 things ladies need to do to make a man happy, and turn him into the perfect man. AND I AGREE WITH HER.

The 3 `A`s.

Apetite - Attention - Affection

{I call the the 3 `F`s}

Feed him - Feminist or not, men really DO want someone to make the damn sandwich for them. Regularly!

Flatter him - Women joke how fagile our ego`s are then bust our balls. Well we DO want someone who will build us up, not put us down. You think he`ll respect your feelings if you bitch at him enough?

F*ck him - Mens minds are simple. Hungry or Horney, that`s all we got. Put Out Regularly or his Cave-man instinct will kick in and he`ll find some willing wench elsewhere.

Ladies, do these things and your man will put you on a pedestal and do ANYTHING to keep such a wonderful woman. Don`t do them and get used to watching Sex in the City with your single friends.
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Male 47
WIN!
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Male 39,885
@ Lauryn - [quote]if she does all that and becomes the perfect woman... what reward does she get [/quote]

She gets a man who will bend over backwards for her and do anything to make and keep her happy.

@ CoyoteKing - [quote]Gerry, I`m not gay but you can help me work on my Jeep anytime lol[/quote]

Well I am gay so I don`t work on cars. But I`ll rearrange your furniture for you.

@ slut_etta - [quote]gerry, you`re right, [/quote]

Naturally. I always am.

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Male 22
@TokioKoos

You do realise that part of caring about someone is that you`re willing to help them out without expecting something immediate in return right?

I bet if your boyfriend bought you some flowers you wouldn`t immediately go out and buy him something
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Male 2,855
misogyny? how is supporting your boyfriend misogyny?
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Female 412
Finally a man who`s not afraid to say to a woman "Shut up and help." I AM the chick outside helping my husband with the car/truck. Then I go inside and make him dinner -- INSTEAD of bitching about the cost of fixing the damn thing. I totally agree with the responder.


And what does your husband do for YOU? Sure, I`d help my boyfriend too, as long as I was getting something in return, something that was important to me.
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Male 2,372
Heh heh...I bet she didn`t expect THAT response.

...and gimmie a break with the whole "misogyny" thing. I can only imagine the conversations this gal has when she`s with the girls about her boyfriend and men in general..
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Male 14,331
Let him go play with his jeep I`ll play with his girlfriend.
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Male 684
and they say Misogyny is dead...sounds like someone has issues.
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Female 14
Finally a man who`s not afraid to say to a woman "Shut up and help." I AM the chick outside helping my husband with the car/truck. Then I go inside and make him dinner -- INSTEAD of bitching about the cost of fixing the damn thing. I totally agree with the responder.
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Female 2,525
Ah, good old fashioned misogyny is alive and well. I can sleep at night.
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Male 707
@Wonderwmn
i would marry you just from reading that sentence.
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Male 383
Yay, I got my sandwich!
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Female 164
Lol sounds like me except... I prefer staying at home while he`s fixing his car, baking cookies and making dinner for when he`s ready!
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Female 91
Good gosh dang.
That`s EXACTLY how it`s done!
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Male 20
I wish it was that easy guy we all do but we don`t have the technology to form the perfect girlfriend yet a girl that were attracted to because she has the same interests as us no not like "ZOMG U LIKE FOOD SO DO I!!!!!" unless you find that one born every decade born at the stroke of midnight in an eclipse of the full moon after a ritual of goat`s blood and link two souls together in an immortal bond for all eternity but you can`t just replicate that man! Why must we be limited to the binds of limited compatibility and bitches WHHHHHHHHHY
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Male 238
...and effing hilarious.
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Male 238
That is www.jeep-forum.com
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Male 186
JDplaysFF-- right on.
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Male 625
Really guy?

Then get ready to go to the mall! Read up on EVERY fashion magazine, go to all those clothing stores, and get ready to giggle and agree with EVERYTHING! Then, afterwards, go home, rub your girlfriend`s feet and do the dishes and be ready to do it all again tomorrow!!!

This isn`t a partnership you`re describing.

Tool.
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Female 437
@xxFloydexx

TY! I wasnt sure if what i said actually made any sense!
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Male 271
GENIUS
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Female 47
@Lauryn. !!

Wow! I was just about to comment on this. Then I read your post and i decided I didn`t need to. You said it all. This kind of guy is only looking for a slave, not a partner. This kind of woman is a sad, used woman. The guy who does this to his girl is a Dreamkiller.
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Male 1,834
well said
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Female 188
you people are sick!sick I say!you ruined a funny post
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Male 338
>*reads amusing post about a jeep*
>*looks down to see argument about sharia law*
>*goes to different website*
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Female 437
@ liquidglass, I dont think you really understood what i meant..

I understand your point, and i do agree with you that in a relationship all should be 50/50 ect,

But my point was about the guy that wrote this.. he was telling this chick she should go out an become the `perfect woman` ie, go and help him with his hobby fix his drinks, his meals, bath him, & fulfill his desires in bed..., Yet at the end of those days where she has done everything he could have wished for! What is it that she gets in return?

Your answer was pretty much well she gets loved and cared for.

Just doesnt seem 50/50 to me.

Im sure the guy that wrote this wouldn`t do the same for his woman, lets say she wants to sew some dresses... My guess is that he isnt going to say to a man, Hand her pins, be the manequin, serve her drinks, cook for her, then bath her, and fulfill her desires in bed.

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Male 480
@chrismunich: I have your sandwich, but it`s here in the US. it would probably go bad by the time it made it in the mail to you, so I`m just gonna go ahead and eat it for you.
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Female 437
Hands ChrisMunich a sammich.... XD, see i can be a good woman :P
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Male 10,855
[quote]Sharia law is present in most all muslim nations[/quote]

47 Muslim nations 23 of which do not have a form of Sharia Law. So that`s barely true. Bare in mind most of them only have it at a family level and all vary widely on the interpretation.

[quote]That is not `a small slice of (the) muslim world.`[/quote]

In terms of the population, it`s a far cry from a majority I guarantee you that much.

See you later.
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Male 17,511
Cajun247: Sharia law is present in most all muslim nations, and it is not at all like western law. That is not `a small slice of (the) muslim world.`

muslims are even attempting to substitute sharia law in countries like Great Britain and France.

I`m done now.
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Male 383
So many dull comments, can someone make me a sandwich already? I don`t care if it`s a man or a woman, I just want my sandwich :(
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Male 10,855
If you don`t make any more points on the matter, then we gladly will.
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Male 10,855
[quote]To claim that`s all the fault of Christians is facetious[/quote]

Not my point at all.

[quote]Christians do not have theocracies nor have religious courts with preachers as judges, as islam does.[/quote]

Last I checked the Anglican Church IS the official religion of England. Members of the Monarchy have to be a member. Furthermore the Holy See officially IS a theocracy, and does have tribunals. That however is a small slice of the Christian world, and the countries you referred to are only a small slice of Muslim World.
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Male 17,511
Now can we please drop the religious debate ?
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Male 17,511
Volsunga: Salem witch trials were over 200 years ago, Sudan is half muslim, Huckabee saying that Asange should be tried for treason is not a religious edict, and the Crusades are ancient history.
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Male 17,511
Cajun247: An individual country`s laws and punishments for breaking those vary wildly across the globe, To claim that`s all the fault of Christians is facetious. Christians do not have theocracies nor have religious courts with preachers as judges, as islam does.
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Female 8,045
Mmm- well, those who can sustain a relationship may be better equpped to give advice about one. But also- having worked on the car he discovered the work was not enough, more money needed to be spent. Her question was actually simple, is he correct in thinking he will recoup his outlay after another 700, or is it better to quit now and minimise the loss? You have all assumed that he is happy to lay out more time and money, but he may not be, he may just want a working car or the money to buy another. Some men like tinkering, others can do it- and will, but only do it to achieve an end. She is helping- by finding out what his best course of action should be- then armed with good info, he can decide.
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Male 17,511
Volsunga: I don`t know what you did with that link, but would you delete it and try again, it`s a total jumble.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Christians aren`t repressing their women, performing female genital mutilation, issuing fatwas, using stoning as a capital punishment, or committing genocide in the name of God.[/quote]

But they are repressing homosexuals by giving them life sentences (Botswana, Lesotho, Namibia).

Now if you`re also gonna say they`re not true Christians, then niether are Osama bin Laden, Hamas, Hezbollah etc.
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Male 1,547
@crackrjak
A "no true scotsman" fallacy applies to everything, not just religion. It`s just that religions are the ones who tend to make that logical error most often. Christians actually are very much guilty of oppressing their women, performing female genital mutilation, issuing fatwas, and committing
Male 17,511
Lolboy: I tried to let it go, But these guys keep pulling me back in.
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Male 798
Oh hey, a Christianity debate on a completely unrelated post. Lol IAB.
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Male 2,988
@madduck: you bring up a good point. marriage. is this girl married? NO. so why the hell is she telling him what to do with HIS money? if he wants to fix up an old vehicle, let him. she shouldn`t be telling him what he should do, like give up, and how to spend his money.

also, what feedback does she expect going into a Jeep forum fan site and insulting both her boyfriend (via her actions) and the members of the forum?

and to answer your question about how long a poster has been married? i`d say since its a boyfriend and not husband then 0 years. so it doesn`t matter.
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Male 1,010
Meh..i don`t think wgirvine has enough info here, mainly he is just guessing. Secondly - and most important: her boyfriend just went and bought a piece of sh*t car for $3000, which was stupid in the first place. Then he decides to spend most of his time fixing it, and he doesent seem to let it go either. So he is a dumb ass, and the chick is rightfully beginning to dbout his sense of judgement. Maybe it is the idiocracy of his actions, more than him spending time fixing the car that bothers her you know.

And the angry responder? Hint: girvine=virgin(e)
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Male 17,511
Heureux: I have no idea what Timothy McVeigh`s religion was, and that had nothing to do with the reason he bombed the Murrah building.

I am no terrorist or homophobe (another misused term), and you trying to use that libel against me shows the content of your character.

Also, I don`t have to know Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, or Latin to read and understand the Bible, It`s not necessary to know Arabic read the koran either. If you try to make the claim that it`s been `mistranslated`, then I`ll remind you that in islam any cleric that mistranslates the koran can be sentenced to death. Every koran I`ve seen has the cleric or imams name that did the translation in it`s first few pages.

Care to argue it further ?
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Male 17,511
Volsunga: Christians aren`t repressing their women, performing female genital mutilation, issuing fatwas, using stoning as a capital punishment, or committing genocide in the name of God.

So please do not equate Christianity with islam.
as for your "no true scotsman" baloney, that`s a misused atheists argument against all religion.
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Female 8,045
Wow- how many of you misogynists have been married for , well, a whole marriage? I am quite sure the guy was taking the piss. If not, then he needs a firm slap upside the head. I suggest that those giving advice on this should state cleary how long they have been married FOR before they speak.
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Male 1,054
By the way, the advice is good for any one in a relationship, male or female, gay or straight, romantic, sexual or just friends.

It was put harshly and with a great deal of sexism, but

the best way to strengthen your relationship with someone is to get involved in the things that are important to the other person. Learn about the hobby their are passionate about, help them when they ask, spoil them every now and then, etc.

Works with friends, spouses and lovers, kids and parents, - the more you invest in someone else`s passion, they more they will treasure you.

And if you are the one being cared about like that, acknowledge it, appreciate it, and reciprocate.
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Male 1,054
kw112

"if it were christians that attacked the U.S in a terrible act of terrorism "

as in the Oklahoma City bombing

There are Christian terrorists in the U.S. - including homophobes like CrakrJak.

And Crak - do you read, speak and write Arabic?

If not, then you do not know the Qur`an.
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Female 4,084
@gerry

you`re right, most young women don`t know how to treat a man because they`ve been brainwashed into thinking that being pretty and stupid is more important than being smart and supportive. not looking like barbie, i`ve always felt i had to try harder and its made me a better person. i absolutely LOVE doing things with my man like demolition and remodeling. and in the spring he`s promised to teach me how to use his backhoe and the road grader. damn, i`m looking forward to that! most women just don`t realize how much FUN stuff like that is and i really feel sorry for them.



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Male 1,547
This guy knows what he`s talking about. Women can`t be controlling bitches and expect to be respected.

@off-topic Christian vs Muslim debaters
You`re both committing a "No True Scotsman fallacy" in your arguments. Both your religions have done equally despicable things based on their holy books. You need to own up to it and give better apologetics based on fact and common morality.
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Female 6
wow. that was the most bitter response i`ve ever read. looks like he should have opened his mouth to the woman that was his "dream killer" instead of responding to a woman`s random jeep post. Or at least, look for another gf. He should go to a library, and find a girl there who is "helping herself", like he likes, (instead of doing that whining thing which he says YOU SHOULD NEVAH DO) so he won`t have to be up on the internet at night posting embittered responses.
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Male 1,111
If that girl or any girl wants to act like she is acting then they`ll get exactly what they are giving.


They`ll end up alone, used up, and lonely finally settling for a "nice guy" that has no backbone so they can walk all over him. They`ll have to be the head of the relationship because they are with a girly/man. They`ll end up utterly unhappy and end up cheating on the guy with someone more interesting.

Enjoy.
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Male 1,111
@Lauryn

"And if she does all that and becomes the perfect woman... what reward does she get at the end of the day?? "

You name it. She wants to act like his wife and keep him around, then she needs to act like a woman should. In return subconsciously he`ll want to keep her around, so she`ll get taken care of, watched after, and cared about more than ever before.

Most people out there today just don`t get it. If you give, you get, it`s a natural cycle.
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Male 2,988
This is drating awesome! Some stupid girl goes into a Jeep forum to talk to Jeep fanatics about what she should do and wants to convince her man to sell the Jeep? Like any of them will agree with that. I have have a Jeep and absolutely LOVE it. This girl can either be part of the solution and help her man out if she really cares about him and his interests, or she can be part of the problem by bitching all the time and needs to gtfo of his life.

Also Gerry, I`m not gay but you can help me work on my Jeep anytime ;-) lol
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Male 226
I got to this point with my wife many years ago. I got sick of the whining and bitching about not owning a house, and I finally snapped.

"If you want a house that bad, you`re welcome to go get one. YOU do the maintenance, YOU pay the fat, over-inflated mortgage, and YOU spend every minute of every waking hour for the next 30 dratings years working on it or for it. As for me & the kid, we`ll be on my motorcycle, checking out what`s over the next hill."

5 years later, we still live in an apartment, watched her sister get completely screwed by buying a house, and are better off for it.
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Male 1,222
Im MauserTM and i approve this message
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Female 437
And if she does all that and becomes the perfect woman... what reward does she get at the end of the day??
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Male 39,885
The responses here tell me what I have long suspected. Young women have no idea how a man need to be treated.

You`ve been lied to by the feminazi`s about everything.

If a man wanted an equal he`d marry his best friend.
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Male 3,915
i agree with this post...
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Male 17,511
kw112: I know the koran contradicts itself in many instances, but according to mohammed himself the later, and thus most recent, of his commandments take precedent over the earlier ones.

His later commandments also happen to be the most extreme and the most quoted when it comes to muslim extremists.

As you can see, I know more than enough about the contents of the koran and it`s companion books.
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Male 17,511
[quote]I still enjoy puttig him in his place.[/quote]

Spoken like an experienced "Dream Killer".
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Female 243
Crakr: read a koran. my parents and grandparents are from albania. muslim. i dont believe in a creator god but being raised by my grandmother who is relgious made me read the koran. (and later on in life i still like learning about other religions and still read religious texts) i can pretty much say
that any suicide bomber/terrorist that happens to be muslim is not a "real" muslim because it goes against the religion just as much as i would say the same for christianity or any other religion under attack. (and by read the koran i dont mean tsken out of context quotes about killing.)
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Male 17,511
green_batman: Many women have a way of doing just that, Killing Dreams. I`ve seen my buddies dreams get ran over by women that can only think of their own needs and wants. I`ve seen it happen to my father when he re-married after my mom died.

Of course that does need to be a two way street, but to be honest I`ve yet to see a guy crush his girls dreams and her not leave him.

Couples should be supportive and involved with each other. If you start griping about what he spends his money on and being a `Nag`, Then you become the problem, not the money.
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Male 819
5cats:I find it funny how other than saying that my posts are full of crap and throwing some lolz your posts lack any real content...

Though I will agree I considered writing lapcat earlier but thought it was too easy a path to take....

Goodnight....
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Male 40,728
[quote]but I still enjoy puttig him in his place...[/quote]
You put me on the top of the world? Thanks @xavroche! :smooches:

And yuppers, my `sense of humour` may not be suitable for all readers. Intelligent thinking is advised. And now - g`night!
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Male 17,511
kw112: I`m part Indian, and I`m a Christian.
Having ancestors that where beaten unless they accepted Christianity. I cannot in good conscience condone what was done to the Indians, It was a shame, but it was also over 100 years ago. My own experience with Christianity has taught me that no real Christian would repeat that mistake or do what was done on 9/11, it`s completely antithetical to our faith.
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Female 728
Got cut off. The last sentence was: If that is the case, I think there are many men out there who would object to your characterization of them, and I think that you are someone to be avoided.

Continuing:

By the way, you say that men have different needs, but different does not mean unequal. Equal does not mean same. People can have different needs in a relationship while still being equals. Equality is about treating your partner as someone whose interests matter to you as much as your own. Frankly, I don’t think you can have real love without a sense of equality.
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Female 728
“Apparently you`re a "Dream Killer" in training. Apparently you`ve bought into the brainwashing that men and women are equal in everything. Legally, Yes they are to be treated equal, but in a relationship it is far from being equal. That`s not being sexist, that`s being realistic, men have physical traits and mental needs that are different than women.”

I don’t think that men and women are exactly the same, if that is what you mean. I am perfectly aware that there are innate differences between the male and the female brain, as well as innate differences among individuals. But, considering that I said that my take on relationships involves give and take, I don’t think you can rightfully call me a “Dream Killer” unless you are implying that all men dream of having a subservient girlfriend. If that is the case, I think there are many men out there who would object to your characterization of them, and I think that you are someone to
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Male 40,728
Oh dear, not good night yet:

@plastinum & @britt566: My hope for humanity has returned! I totally agree.

[quote]Thank you 5Cats you`ve proved my point.[/quote]
You`re welcome @Cajun247 and you did indeed make an excellent point! So sorry if the "lolz" gets tiresome for you, please grow a thicker skin and hit "refresh" (lolz!)
For some real lolz, observe @xavroche`s reply! Ahahahaha!
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Male 126
two words: fkkn owned.
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Male 10,440
I agree with crackrjak. For once.

Although it is off topic and it`s hard to argue against historical facts.
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Male 819
"In most muslim countries you`d be stoned to death or beaten to a pulp and have your body hung from a lamppost the first time you decided to speak to a muslim man the way you have responded to me."

I`ve lived in a Muslim country and I`ve visited many, and as always your gross generalities are bullpoo. You`re as stupid as the idiots in Europe who say things like "all the people in Texas have guns, so if you piss someone off they`ll shoot you." Yes you can give me examples of people being stoned to death, and that idiot can give me examples of people getting shot, but to generalize those examples into everyday occurances is completely faulty logic.

"You know if his opinion is not that important why do even you bother reading/replying?"

His opinion isn`t important, but I still enjoy puttig him in his place...
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Male 10,855
[quote]Look: I just posted how someone on the internets needs to have a "thick skin" and how people take such offense about the opinions of others.[/quote]

And that`s the problem 5Cats, the language you use (here anyway) fails to get your "joke" across. Good night sir!
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Male 1,116
Well, this thread sure got off topic.
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Female 243
Crakr: good rebuttle but you never anwsered my question from before. if it were christians that attacked the U.S in a terrible act of terrorism yelling "praise jesus" you wouldnt have taken it so personally would you? would you not label them as "extremists"? or would you then at that very moment say "most christians must believe this if this relatively small group of people does" and then regard most christians as terrorists.

Feel free to repond to that but im not going to be a part of this argument anymore. because i think we can all agree that in the history of the internet there are pretty much no accounts of one side of the argument saying "you have a point there. you are right in all manners of this subject". every one of us is stubborn including myself. but hey if we`re not doing this we might be doing something productive. and we wouldnt want that now would we. :P
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Male 10,855
[quote]In most muslim countries you`d be stoned to death[/quote]

That would be: Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Nigeria, Iraq and Iran.

Then there`s:
Turkey, Indonesia, Syria, Nigeria, Morocco, Libya, Palestine, Albania, Algeria, Djibouti. All of which don`t.
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Male 1,129
I`m gonna nominate him for president
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Male 40,728
*sigh*
Since @xavroche and several others might not "get" the joke I made:
Look: I just posted how someone on the internets needs to have a "thick skin" and how people take such offense about the opinions of others. OPINIONS! got that?

So @xavroche, who DELIGHTS is juvenile name calling himself:
[quote]CrakrJak: You`re such an idiot.[/quote]
at least he uses "you`re" properly!
[quote]Crakrjak`s little conservative lapdog.[/quote]
lapCAT you speciesist!

So then I call him a "loser" GET IT? It`s satire! A guy who is so full of CRAP complaining about the content of my posts? lolz! Ugh! Good night!
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Male 819
"If you don`t LIKE my opinion, don`t POST ON IAB!
Lolz, loser!"

That actually makes no logical sense. You do not embody IAB. Me not liking your opinion has nothing to do with me posting on IAB....

Also "Lolz, loser!"

Grow up....
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Male 10,855
[quote]Lolz, loser![/quote]

The lulz, lolz, and loser also get rather annoying in a heartbeat. You know if his opinion is not that important why do even you bother reading/replying?
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Female 2,289
plastinum, your post pretty much sums up how everyone should feel in the end. I love you.
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Male 17,511
xavroche: In most muslim countries you`d be stoned to death or beaten to a pulp and have your body hung from a lamppost the first time you decided to speak to a muslim man the way you have responded to me. And don`t say it hasn`t happened, I can give you countless examples and video evidence.

You have equal Rights, Freedoms and Liberties here, Be thankful you do.
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Male 10,855
[quote]SO if one is working in a Daycare (like me!) one uses positive, life-affirming language. Why? Because I love my children :hearts: [/quote]

Thank you 5Cats you`ve proved my point. If you didn`t they`d probably suffer horribly. This woman who was looking for advice is not even going to pay attention because of the first paragraphs. If language wasn`t important on the interwebz then the terms "troll" and "grammar nazi" wouldn`t exist. You shouldn`t reply to every conservation starter with such scorn. If you did you`d just turn them away.
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Male 329
Ok so maybe the guy was a little too Alpha Male in his response and got a little carried away with cliche`s and stereotypes but I have to say if you love someone and they have a dream/hobby...it`s not about the money, it`s not about if it will ever be finished or come to fruition..it`s about making them feel happy and good and accomplished in pursuing those things..and yes it is a two way street and the guy WAS right in that she COULD take the route of getting involved and supporting him and yes even going as far as making him a sammich and screwin his brains out....what he neglected to mention was how her BF in return should then be compelled to do the SAME for her...it`s give and take and it`s not about the dang jeep...it`s about making each other happy and instead of him working on the jeep while she does her thing, they both actively participate in each other`s thing and in doing so become closer! the whole point of a hobby is that it costs money and rarely shows a monetary return
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Male 40,728
[quote]how little your opinion should and does matter....[/quote]
If you don`t LIKE my opinion, don`t POST ON IAB!
Lolz, loser!
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Male 11,739
wgirvine is one of biggest male chauvinist jackasses on the planet.
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Male 819
@5cats: I don`t give a f*** what you think, since you`ve always been Crakrjak`s little conservative lapdog. Both you and he show a complete lack of education past the kind of stupid rhetoric I expect from extreme North American conservatives.

Writing idiotic things such as that my posts are "full of fail" and that I`m "spreading my shame accross Europe" just goes to show how little your opinion should and does matter....
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Male 40,728
[quote]:P I`ve been called a misogynist more than once.[/quote]
Join the club @Chibi_Ichigo!
*prepares to pounce on Chibi_Ichigo`s long-tailed mouse*
I mean, the guy even says "that`s my opinion" and people slam him? If you don`t like my opinion don`t ask for it!
*pounces!*
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Male 40,728
@xavorche your posts have been so FULL of FAIL it`s shameful. Please stfu? You`re spreading your shame to all of Europe...
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Female 986
Man, I want to give wgirvine a high-five. I try to give my friends advice when they are whining, but they say I`m being a bitch when I say, "You know, he needs to see his friends too." or "Hey, he`s my DM, let him play his games." ...C`est la vie. I`ll keep most of my opinions to myself. :P I`ve been called a misogynist more than once.
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Male 40,728
Thank you @kw112 for your reply. Such well reasoned replies are kinda rare at IAB, eh?
I mentioned your age; I didn`t mean to be nasty, just that you might not have studied too much about WW2, and what you did learn most likely was tainted. There`s a big "a-bombs = bad" liberal idea amoung most teachers, which in ww2 was clearly not the case. "We" (meaning the Allied Countries) were NOT `devastated` after the a-bombs, WE were glad 6 years of war (I`m Canadian, it`s 6 years) were OVER!

@Cajun247 It`s all about context! I tell my cats they`re FAT and STUPID almost every day! Lolz! (Ack @kw112 is right! lolz, @davymid & others have already mentioned this) BUT I have NEVER EVEN ONCE called my work-kids those names even in jest!
SO if one is working in a Daycare (like me!) one uses positive, life-affirming language. Why? Because I love my children :hearts:
If one is posting on the interwebs? DRAT! your dratting dratty drat drat you!
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Male 17,511
kw112: You are forgetting a lot of history there little girl. Like the fact that America Not only rebuilt those two cities but the rest of Japan as well. We also helped rebuilt half of Germany, France, and Great Britain. We`ve learned to not use nuclear weapons and we try to keep them out of the hands of others.

By the way, No one on board the Enola Gay was yelling "Praise God" (Allah Akbar) after the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, it was not done as a religious act or because the airmen believed they`d get 72 virgins in heaven when they died.

I`m afraid your education has been warped if you believe Hiroshima and Nagasaki = 9/11.
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Male 819
CrakrJak: You`re such an idiot.

"You`re willing to forgive those that still despise our freedoms and want to conquer the world for Allah."

That doesn`t even mean anything. It`s laughable. You`re a walking stereotype with pre-packaged phrases. No one despises our freedom. Get out of fairytale land where monsters lurk under the bed and try to speak like the adult that you are...

Also, don`t call me a liar. I jokingly mentioned you not liking Muslims and YOU are the one who got all serious and started b*tching about 9/11. The question was when 9/11 was brought into the conversation. Of course it`s no surprise that mentioning muslims has you screaming about 9/11 and spewing your rhetoric... you`re so predicatable...
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Male 10,855
[quote]You`re willing to forgive those that still despise our freedoms[/quote]

That`s a lie.

[quote]Yet you hate me for warning you that threat still exists.[/quote]

There`s two.

I`ve made my point.

You called xavroche a liar, after you made three.
In other words:
Pot, meet kettle.
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Male 17,511
Cajun247: So you`re equating 9/11 to a speck of sawdust ?

Sorry, That`s the biggest bible quote fail I`ve seen in quite awhile.
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Male 10,855
[quote]You`re willing to forgive those that still despise our freedoms and want to conquer the world for Allah. Yet you hate me for warning you that threat still exists.

...You Liar[/quote]

My rebuttal:
Matthew 7:3
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Female 243
5cats
im not arguing abou the a bomb OR 9/11
im trying to make a point to Crakr because he said pretty much the reason he takes the acts of muslims as personal attacks is because of 9/11. saying something along the lines of "muslims terrorized my nation. thats why i take it personally"

my point wasnt what was wrong or right in Japan. your disecting the statement where it shouldnt be. the point was that im pretty sure no Japanese people went "its for our own good" when nagasaki and hiroshima were bombed. they were devestated. we were devestated. now the connection im making is that because most of america was and still is christian you wouldnt want the japanese thinking most christians are a-bomb dropping mass murderers. final point being Crakr`s argument about 9/11 was invalid.

p.s- please dont mention my age as a way to try and belittle my statements. im not the one that says "lolz" all the time.
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Male 17,511
xavroche: I see that European liberalism has soaked into your bones. You`re willing to forgive those that still despise our freedoms and want to conquer the world for Allah. Yet you hate me for warning you that threat still exists.

And by the way you brought the term "muslim" to the conversation, You liar.

[quote]Crakrjak you often take what muslims do as personal attacks on yourself. In other words, you internalize it. The only logical reason you would have this reaction is because a muslim man(men) touched you in your special place when you were five.[/quote]
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Female 1,441
Well said FeeFee.
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Male 39,885
dating.... she has no say in what he spends.

It is a sign of how he spends if she wants to be married so she should probably find a guy more suited to her tastes.

One with no self esteem or pride that will let her make every decision for him.

Spineless, in other words.
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Female 177
Lmfao this is great!
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Male 10,855
On the contrary 5Cats language IS very important. Would you like it if called you "a silly stupid cannuck"? I doubt that very much. Nor would like being called a "backwards-455, cousin-lovin loud-mouth, Texas honkey". Hell in your line of work I`d expect you`d have to do a lot of little things to assure the parents that their child is going to be well taken care of (part of which means saying the right things).
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Male 5
Um, Is this the part where I stand up and applause?
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Male 40,728
[quote]See, I think that attitude is not conducive for healthy relationship.[/quote]
Humm, I`m not sure, but I think you`re reading me backwards @obhwfgirl - I think that such she should `take it easy` and just go along with his hobby/obsession: provided their relationship is a care-free one. If they have a child together then the CAR < KID and she SHOULD slam her foot down hard and say `cut it out!`
Yeah I totally agree that if they DO have a serious relationship then it`s too late (realistically) to worry about such small things, they`ve likely got BIG problems!

@kw112 female, 13-17 Ah youth! Without the 2 a-bombs over 2 MILLION Japanese civilians would have died plus 200K US Soldiers, plus 1 MILLION Japanese soldiers MINIMUM!! `Operation Olympic` look it up! (wiki redirects to "Downfall" which is basically the same thing)
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Female 583
He makes a good point until he explains what she should do. Good luck getting that fantasy out of any girl. I would never expect my partner to help me, cook for me, wash me, and then screw me every single day while I work on a car. I can see it happening once every now and again...but that`s just obnoxious.
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Male 40,728
[quote]It was not at all polite or necessary at all wgirven here to use such vitriolic language[/quote]
Oh BOO-HOO-HOO! @Cajun the language used isn`t nearly as critically important as the message delivered. It`s this person`s OPINION that she`s a `dream killer` not a scientific fact. IF you`re asking for advice (and in MHO: she`s only seeking validation for her b*tching, eh?) on the interwebs, you gotta have a thicker skin than "ooo the language used is so harsh!!!" eh?

@Dr.Professor: once the "voice of reason" is given, that`s IT! You cannot continue harping on the subject after that, it`s redundant and likely counter-productive. She should assess her situation (after the VoR is given) and either pass the wrench or walk.
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Male 721
All of IAB commenters that drone on about really stupid things, did you ever stop once and think to yourself "I really talk way too much about absolutely nothing and people really don`t give a poo about what I say, but I just like to see my name and picture there so I can feel like I`m important :D"
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Female 2,674
I know it`s probably said 1 skillion times before but, I think that:
1. No one should kill anyone`s dreams in ANY relationship. If it doesn`t affect you, why do you care?
2. If she doesn`t want to help, she shouldn`t have to. She could get her own damned hobby (and she SHOULD). I HATE couples who think they need to do/like/be interested in alllll the same things... it`s unrealistic and just a set up for disaster.
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Male 2,748
God, this man is God.
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Male 592
I clicked the link, read the story on the image, scrolled down to see some `funny` comments (I don`t know why I even bothered).

Only to find some discussion about personal grudges, christians, labeling people, hate spreading, THE ATTACK ON 9/11, etc.


Grow the f*ck up, people.

If you connect the dots in some way, any two topics can be linked with each other. But going from `relationship advice` to whatever is being discussed atm is very far off. It`s really sad
how everything has to steer into a serious direction.
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Male 819
"I`m not gonna scroll through the 7 pages to find out. How the hell did this turn into a 9/11 debate??? I`m so damn tired of this bull."

Mea culpa for tipping over that can of worms...
I will blame CrakrJak for originally opening it though....
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Female 582
@Logan

Except for a few posts, there really hasn`t been much talk of 9/11. It cooled off before it got to that point.

If you`ve got the patience, we`ve been having a pretty interesting conversation. Most of the time we end up debating religion or politics. This one is more on gender equality and relationships.
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Male 94
I`m not gonna scroll through the 7 pages to find out. How the hell did this turn into a 9/11 debate??? I`m so damn tired of this bull.
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Male 3,482
[quote]not only is it getting old, but its the ONLY female insult you guys can think of. amuse me and think of something else.[/quote]
I wouldn`t even comment on this if my first thought hadn`t made me chuckle.

*Cough* Okay, here goes:

Stop talking woman. No, no, I didn`t say shut your mouth, I said stop talking. Your mouth needs to be open for my... You know how it`s gonna end from there.

How`s that? I`m no chauvinist, but I had to let it out. Heh, "let it out." Gotta love Freudian slips.
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Female 3,598
you can`t expect a woman to perform the dual function of being your best mate and your mother
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Male 819

The way that you and many others appropriate 9/11 and twist what happened that day into a tool to spread your hate is more hurtful to me than what a handful of lunatic terrorists could ever do. It`s a complete disrespect to the pain that people like me feel after 9/11, and in my humble opinion it`s a complete disrespect for many people who lost their lives that day.
Crakjar, you epitomize pretty much the sole reason why I don`t look forward to moving back to America in the next couple of years.
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Male 819
"kw112: single acts of murder does not equal terrorist mass murder, billions in damages, and a whole country`s social conscience scared for life."

I`m sick of it. You`re a broken record! If 9/11 has affected you that much then you really need to get therapy. And you know what, there is nothing wrong with that. 9/11 was a horrible and traumatic act. I wasn`t personally affected by what happened that day(no one close to me was killed), but as an American, it hurt, a lot. I don`t know how affected you were, but you know what, there are countless other horrible acts that have happened in recent history, and if everyone affected by those acts reacted the way you did, by using them to spread hate, our world would be doomed.
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Female 1,203
@Addler, all the logic you are using to point out Tharnambular`s stupidity is only an attempt at saving face after xavroche owned you with that well deserved comment on your age and your own stupidity. Even if you were joking by telling her to STFU and get you a beer, it only exacerbates the problem.
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Female 243
Crakr:
I`m a citizen of Nagasaki in 1945. Christians blew up my city. Sorry if i took it personally.

Better example? Theres no real way to justify what you said becuase when it comes down to it your taking ONE trait of one group of people that did a very bad thing and now you have a reason to take what that specific gruop of people does as personal attacks?

What if they had YOUR faith. You wouldn`t have picked THAT trait to generalize them would you? You wouldn`t say "the Christians on 9/11" you would most likely be saying something along the lines of "the middle-easterners on 9/11".
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Male 527
if you had a question about how much something was worth, wouldn`t you want to go on a site that had people that were knowledgeable on the subject? she wanted to know if it was WORTH it to keep working on it, or what it would be WORTH to sell as is, or if parting it out would be WORTH more... how is that trolling again?

I said I`d almost label her a troll. You see, she could have gone to Kelly Blue Book (like I did) to find out the worth of the vehicle instead of going into a pro-Jeep forum and just automatically being negative about the vehicle. Second, she has her mind set that it`s going to get sold, whether it`s whole or in pieces. It is that antagonistic attitude that is in her note that makes me think that she`s a troll.
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Male 588
It`s his hobby, and sure maybe she should be concerned if she sees it becoming self destructive, but unless we know what % of his income he spends on this hobby, we really aren`t in a position to judge anyone.
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Female 3,598
Crakr, whatever man. i think you`re absolutely silly and i wasn`t cornering you at all. just calling you out on your bullsh*t.
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Female 582
"but really unless there`s a child involved she should pass him a wrench and smile, not be a total b*tch..."

See, I think that attitude is not conducive for healthy relationship. I think so many people are getting divorced today because their building their metaphorical castles on sand. People build habits and coping strategies together. Dealing with problems by simply shutting up and appeasing the other person is not a long-term solution. Fighting every battle like a war isn`t the answer either, but if you want to give a relationship a fighting chance, you have to communicate and make compromises right from the start. If you wait until marriage and children, then it`s too late.
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Male 17,511
kw112: single acts of murder does not equal terrorist mass murder, billions in damages, and a whole country`s social conscience scared for life.
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Female 3,598
if you had a question about how much something was worth, wouldn`t you want to go on a site that had people that were knowledgeable on the subject? she wanted to know if it was WORTH it to keep working on it, or what it would be WORTH to sell as is, or if parting it out would be WORTH more... how is that trolling again?
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Male 17,511
SmilinSam: I never cornered anyone, You did the `cornering` here. You tried to frame a box around me. "Call `em how i see `em", "keepin` it real", Whatever you want to call it, Has resulted in many a busted jaw, broken nose, and long nights in jail.

I hope you don`t make that a habit in public, No one needs drama based on jumping to a conclusion.
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Female 1,203
Wow, I have never read anything more insulting. Ok, so what if they aren`t married and are still just bf/gf, if they are in a serious relationship then they should be able to make choices on important things like these. Also, if he is putting in so much money on a piece of crap like this-hobby or otherwise-and it isn`t rewarding him then I think she has a legitimate reason to ask for advice. Especially if he isn`t financially well off. I totally believe that couples need to support each other, but giving hard love and advice is part of that. This is such a stereotypically insulting response from a guy-especially telling her to wear low cut shirts while asking for help (if she is "cute" that is because apparently guys don`t like to help ugly women) and screw his ears off. This guy just made himself look like a pig.
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Male 527
You know, she deserved a verbal smackdown. She posted this article about how the Jeep was a bad investment in a Jeep forum. I`d almost label her a troll, because you`d have to be pretty stupid to show that much disrespect in that kind of forum. And if you don`t know anything about Jeep owners, know this: we are rabid supporters of our vehicles. We do not take too kindly to those who would say that someone paid "too much" for a Jeep, especially when she didn`t do her homework and found that the Kelly Bluebook value for a `96 Cherokee SE is, in fact, between $3,000-$3,500. (The guy should have at least gotten the Sport with the I6 engine, but that`s just me.) Jeeps are special vehicles, and you won`t find the kind of loyalty with Explorers or Yukons as you will with a Jeep.
That being said, the responder totally went overboard. I`m with Angillion, he should have just told her to get the guy a manual and just shut up about it.
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Female 3,598
say what you will Crakr, but i call `em how i see `em and what you said about sarah is trying to corner her and put her into a box. Very similar to a Salem Witch Hunter.
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Male 3,894
Well, I think it`s how you look at the initial situation. When I see a man who bought an older car, and decides to dig in and rebuild it himself, I see a hobbyist. If you`re just looking for something to get you from point A to point B, then it just doesn`t seem worth the time or effort.

However, if he`s just making a series of bad transactions, and trying to cover up his mistakes-- then yeah, he probably needs a voice of reason to get him back out.
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Female 3,598
ok so if he really is dumping money into something that will never be worth what he is putting into it how is that not self destructive? We are actually in agreement here DrProffesor, i think that she is genuinly trying to come up with a solution hence why she asks on a post how much people (that are probably more knowledgeable than she is on this particular subject) think he could get for the car, and how much if he parted it out? and if it is his hobby is she all of the sudden not allowed to have an opinion or give him advice? when you said [quote] If they don`t take that advice then you walk away. You don`t "have" to drive them anywhere. If it`s a burden and you don`t think you ought to be taking care of them to the extent that you do, then you should leave the relationship. [/quote] i couldn`t agree more, which is why i think that this girl is trying to make things work for both of them. because they ARE in a relationship.

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@5Cats

It was not at all polite or necessary at all wgirven here to use such vitriolic language i.e. "dream killer". All she wanted to do was help her husband, maybe give her husband/boyfriend better ideas. She asked for advice, not wgirven`s caustic and belittling nonsense.
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Male 40,728
vv @SmilinSam you`re just delving into speculation now! HER "problem" is he`s spending too much money on his car (in HER opinion). There`s nothing else here to suggest she `depends on him` for anything, eh? Or that their relationship is anything other than casual for that matter...
This does seem like a large sum of money for an older car, but not outrageously so. It`s unclear if they`re live-togethers or just dating, that might make some difference, but really unless there`s a child involved she should pass him a wrench and smile, not be a total b*tch...
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Female 243
"Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:57:45 PM
xavroche: Excuse me but ALL OF AMERICA was attacked on 9/11 by muslims. So excuse me if I took that act of terrorism personally, As most all of my compatriots did."

A Christian murdered my grandparents last week, sorry if i took it personally.

Lamest argument ever.
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@SmilinSam

There`s a big difference between rebuilding a car and gambling. Gambling can be a hobby and can be "safe" if managed properly. I personally wouldn`t gamble because I know how terrible the odds are.

If you notice your partner is ruining their life, with drugs, or other things of a self destructive nature, it`s your job to try and steer them on the correct path. If they don`t take that advice then you walk away. You don`t "have" to drive them anywhere. If it`s a burden and you don`t think you ought to be taking care of them to the extent that you do, then you should leave the relationship.

However, in terms of a hobby... if it`s his money, and he really wants to do it, then support him. Let him chase his dreams. If he gets caught in a rut then he`ll have to handle that himself.
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Male 17,511
SmilinSam: I wasn`t trying to discredit sarah, I was reacting to her sharp tone in her response to the post. You presumed that I was trying to discredit her and then you tried to discredit me.

I never said she wasn`t entitled to her opinion, Nor did I put her on any `Salem Witch Trail`.

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Female 3,598
ok crakr, i ASSUMED all those things about you in the first place, and looked at your profile which confirmed all my assumptions. it`s just the way i do.
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Male 292
My fuel pump went out on my Jeep today, maybe when I fix it my girlfriend can hand me tools, or hold the light or fetch me a bucket of blow jobs.
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Male 17,511
SmilinSam: You missed the word `seems/seemed` in my sentenced. Of course I may be wrong, I rarely say my opinions are `carved-in-stone` truth.

I don`t go looking up people`s profile to decide how I respond to them, that`s what makes me different than yourself.
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Male 40,728
Good advice, IF she actually loves her BF and wished to keep him. Most people (I said people! not males OR females, I mean all 7 genders!) just use others and discard them. This has been going on since caveman times, eh?
True but sad.
Anyhow, that first bit of advice is probably 95% correct! All she wants is her way, it`ll only get worse as she gets what she wants...
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Female 3,598
[quote]All the guy is saying is that a girlfriend should support their boyfriend 100% in their hobbies and passions. [/quote]
what if his hobby was gambling? what if he couldn`t stop and spent all his money on it and then she had to pay all the bills and drive him around because he lost his car in a bet? things that are detrimental to your life/ your partner`s life have an impact on BOTH people
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Male 602
I doubt any of you read Napoleon Hill but there is a great story about a man and his wife in his book TGR. The woman has everything set just so for the man to feel like he is the man and in charge, a big picture of him in the dining room, a huge ornate study, but in reality it is her supplying this myth that made him a great man, and she just smiles quietly knowing the truth.

The saying used to be `behind every great man is a great woman`, even if she was considered demure. Regardless of the relationship between two people it takes a spirit of harmony and positive mental will to make it work.

In my own relationship (going on 5.5 years, I`ve never been in a short termer...what can I say, with these blue eyes and sharp wit, I`m a keeper.) I can tell you all with all honesty that equality doesn`t necessarily mean everything is the same. 2+3+4 = 3+1+5 Like Gorg said, you give some and take some here and there.
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Female 449
Did anyone else notice the guys username rearranged is: "WeVirgin"
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Female 3,598
Basically what you were trying to do Crakr, was discredit sarah (ya know, what started all this) by claiming that she had a bad experience or relationship, when she is perfectly entitled to her opinion REGARDLESS if she did or did NOT ok? It sets it up so that any girl that said anything contradictory was automatically a nutcase for some underlying reason. It`s always like the SALEM WITCH TRIALS with you. If you say you`re a witch then you will be spared but if you say you AREN`T a witch then you will be burned at the stake.
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Female 423
handys, I have no problem telling people to f*ck off, I just don`t do it often (enough).
But yeah, we good :)
You`re a troll and and I`m pretentious, but it`s ok.
kiss and make up people
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Female 3,598
@ Crakr- what exactly am i supposing? OK so i said "fragile male ego" but ya know, females have fragile egos too. EVERYBODY does. sorry for the contradictory blip in my comment. BUT that does not mean that i made ANY generalizations about you OR suppositions in any way. in fact i was trying to point out that all people are different and that each case should be looked at objectively and with more background information before you decide on your absolute opinion. it says all those things about you right there in your profile. -> Sexual Preference: Straight
Religion: Christian
Politics: Conservative
Favorite Movie: Pulp Fiction
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
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Female 582
@Owanie

I will never understand why people post arguments saying that arguing on the internet is stupid.

If arguing on the internet is like two retards arguing and you`re arguing to end arguments, what does that make you?



Well, drat.

If I`m arguing to end the arguments that argue to end arguing on the internet -- then what does that make me?
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Male 109
TL;DR
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Male 240
Crakrjak

Give us one good reason why we should all read the hopelessly redundant bullsh*t that`s being commented here. If everyone here has the pretention to think his/her views are so enlightening, so truth-approximating, then I say everyone should write a book. And not just any book. Write something no one has ever written down before. So "enlightening", that the very essence of your words would cast the whole I-A-B forums here into a new state of civilisation; devoid of debacles and stupid conundrums no one, at least not on here, will ever give an appropriate answer to; one that is not centered about who can look up the most words in a thesaurus or who can directly quote the most phrases dictated by one of your favorite (human) asshh0les. I`m emphasizing on that word there, human. To indicate how f*cking flawed all of this stupid sh*t, really, in essence, is. Especially yours.

Bye.
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Male 3,894
Look. This isn`t sexist.

All the guy is saying is that a girlfriend should support their boyfriend 100% in their hobbies and passions.

I can`t speak for the guy, but being someone who agreed with him, I would fully expect and advise the boyfriend in this situation to do the EXACT same amount of supporting if his girlfriend decided that she wanted to start up a project of some sort.
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Male 12,365
SmilinSam:

Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:30:58 PM

[quote]why are all you guys attacking sarah? [..] fragile male ego[/quote]

Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:34:42 PM

[quote]stupid stereotypes be damned men/women left/right black/white WHATEVER[/quote]

Do you see the problem there?
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Male 756
10 bucks says hes her boyfriend... lol
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Female 582
@SmilinSam

Absolutely perfect!

I find it disappointing that so many PEOPLE out there want this ideal of a partner who`s sole purpose is to please without having to make any sacrifices in return.

As a women, does the life of a rich, trophy wife sound appealing? For a moment, but then I remember that life is an unrealistic, juvenile farce. Truly meaningful, healthy, long-lasting relationships require sacrifice and growth from both sides.

As an aside, I recently had a male friend from work ask me if I wanted to get drinks. Knowing that he had some marital discontent, I asked him if it was okay with his wife. He said she couldn`t know, even if it was innocent, because she would be jealous. I asked to bring his wife along. He refused so I told him that I wouldn`t spend time with him unless he was honest with his wife about it.

You know what he said? "Ashley, you just don`t get how marriage works."
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Male 17,511
SmilinSam: So my observations from many women, like yourself, are invalid generalizations ?

How are your suppositions any better than mine ?

Oh that`s right, I`m just a conservative christian right wing republican straight white American male, My opinion is not to be trusted.
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Female 798
ugh. dumb. That guy did pay way too much.
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Male 2,402
@tincel1372 replied:

handys... are you laughing at me because I use the word "rude"?
I agree it doesn`t have as much impact as "fking idiotic, plain bullsh*t, etc.", but I use it because I simply don`t understand the need for others to be rude. I think it shows weakness of mind and an inability to hold an argument like a grown-up.
But here, even though I usually enoy reading your comments: f*ck off.

handys003 responds:
ROFL! Now that`s my kind of gal! "F*ck off" that`s what my wife says to me and I admire her for it. It shows some testicular fortitude to stand up to a man.

For the record I wasn`t laughing at "rude", but the alluding toward trying to get us to stop bashing the other two. Telling men that only encourages the troll with in us. So saying "f*ck off" to men like myself is more effective sorry to say.

We maika`i (good) now? Aloha
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Male 2,619
This guy clearly is single.
And has MAJOR issues
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Female 3,598
@ Crakr- are you not a conservative christian right wing republican straight white american male? how was anything that i said a generalization? merely observations from many many posts of yours that i have seen in the past
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Male 17,511
xavroche: No you didn`t just use "usual rhetoric", You decided to take it to the level of absurdity to insult me.

Had I insulted you in such a manner, I don`t believe your response would`ve been as constrained as mine was.
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Male 2,388
a little chauvinistic really but otherwise good advise
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Male 819
@Crakjak:I`m not going to get into a muslim debate with you. I know your opinions on that subject and you are too entrenched in them for aything I say to matter.

Your reaction is completely over the top based on what I wrote...

Clearly I don`t think that you got molested by a muslim. I was just showing you how stupid your argument was and using your usual rhetoric against you. It`s completely unfair of you to assume that either girls have had bad relationships based on what they wrote. Yes our opinions are based on life experiences. However there are a plethora of reasons why a person might form certain opinions and for you to assume a specific reason (especially saying that they must have had bad relationships to think what they do) is ludicrous and out of line.
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Male 17,511
SmilinSam: Excuse me, But you were the first to make "broad sweeping generalizations" about me based on my profile.

Pot meet Kettle.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Apparently you`re a "Dream Killer" in training.[/quote]


Will you do IAB a favor and stop typing this crap already?
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Female 423
handys... are you laughing at me because I use the word ``rude``?
I agree it doesn`t have as much impact as ``fking idiotic, plain bullsh*t, etc.``, but I use it because I simply don`t understand the need for others to be rude. I think it shows weakness of mind and an inability to hold an argument like a grown-up.
But here, even though I usually enoy reading your comments: f*ck off.
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Male 17,511
green_batman: [quote]I`ve never been in a relationship before. He said that she was a "Dream Killer"[/quote]

Apparently you`re a "Dream Killer" in training. Apparently you`ve bought into the brainwashing that men and women are equal in everything. Legally, Yes they are to be treated equal, but in a relationship it is far from being equal. That`s not being sexist, that`s being realistic, men have physical traits and mental needs that are different than women.

It`s likely you will have to learn this the hard way, because I doubt you will listen to half of what is written here
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Male 290
FFS, enough already!
`wgirvine` probably gave a tongue-in-cheek response and got a little too happy with his creativity.
But enough with this exchange of stereotypes.
Men and women are equal under law (in most civilized places at least). Everything else is a matter of preference.

At the end of the day, we are equal, but different.

And we don`t all want the same things in our partners.

One woman`s man`s man is another woman`s chauvinist pig.
And another woman`s understanding sensitive man is another woman`s guy who should grow a pair.

I fail to see anything constructive in these exchanges.

Oh, some will think I`m right, some will think I`m wrong, some will think I`m being a know-it-all jackass and some will think I`m a `care bear`. C`est la vie.
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Male 602
It doesn`t say that they don`t have the money to fix it, or that they are under financial stress anywhere in her post. All she says is that she believes he has spent too much money on it for her liking, without qualifying her reasons for thinking so. (such as he is broke, it is shared money, or she just thinks he is being stupid)

Regardless, she is going around and asking these things from other people knowing already her boyfriend`s feelings.

Why would he sink more money into a car than it is worth? The value of the car to him may not be the same as it is to us. Perhaps the priority for him is finishing his project. Maybe he is using this opportunity to learn more about mechanics. Maybe it`s the car he has wanted since he was twelve, and he has dreamed of getting it back in working order, no matter the cost.

Without knowing more information I would say most of you are pulling at strands with your theories.
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Male 10,855
And Crakr I`m with Sarah and SmilinSam on this one. I really hope he was just trolling, if it really was his genuine opinion then this guy is a huge jerk. For that matter I really hope your first comment on this thread was sarcasm.
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Male 10,855
[quote]You trying to twist that into something sexual shows just what kind of sick mind you have. [/quote]



Cuz you really had me going there. Where`d you get that idea?
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Female 3,598
@xavroche- thank you. couldn`t have said it better myself. :-)
@ Crakr- the POST insults me because it is degrading and offensive toward women in general, but especially to the girl who had a pretty innocent question. YOU insult me however, because of your constantly faulty logic which you use to boast your opinions and your broad sweeping generalizations of any "group" of people (muslims, black people, women, different religious groups) and the fact that you think you can tell ANYTHING about a person by a COMMENT on stupid thread. you`re just a simple minded bigot and i dislike you.
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Male 1,116
Is this seriously turning into a debate about Muslims? Come on now.
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Male 17,511
xavroche: Excuse me but ALL OF AMERICA was attacked on 9/11 by muslims. So excuse me if I took that act of terrorism personally, As most all of my compatriots did.

You trying to twist that into something sexual shows just what kind of sick mind you have.

Opinions, especially strong ones, Are usually formed from trial, error, trauma, and grief. That`s not psychobabble, that`s fact.

I didn`t belittle their opinion, I tried to explain their seemingly `knee-jerk` reactions both to the guy that replied in the topic and to me.

Sorry, If I offended your girly-man sensibilities.
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Female 728
@CrakrJak: Your argument is baseless. Someone can be offended by something without having any prior personal experiences with it. I found the man`s post to be self-centered, misogynistic fantasy, and yes, a little offensive, but I`ve never been in a relationship before. He said that she was a "Dream Killer", but he failed to take into account that she might have dreams as well. That, paired with his portrayal of the ideal woman as lacking any characteristics beyond being willing to please, is offensive. Were I in a relationship, I would certainly want to make my SO happy, but I would want my SO to look out for my interests as well. SmilinSam and SarahofBorg were highlighting the inequality of this idealized representation of a relationship.
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Female 582
@cobrakiller

I almost completely agree. Maybe she hadn`t been in a relationship long enough to have her opinion respected or maybe she is a leech. And if it is his money entirely, then he has every right to spend it the way he pleases.

However, they are in a relationship. She does sound genuinely concerned with him wasting his time and money on the project. Even if she isn`t financially invested, emotionally she is.

Plus, this guy doesn`t sound like he really has much experience with cars. So how is pumping $6,200 into a piece of poo car not completely stupid? I know women who have a hobby of making candles, soaps, etc. If she spent $6,200 of her own $$ into buying supplies despite her relative inexperience or financial limitations, a BF would be praised for point out how drating stupid she is.

From half the comments on here, he`s just being a man pursuing his man things and she`s just a stupid bitch getting in his way.
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Male 602
Lol in the thread there is a comment that beats all of these.

"Who says that mkpopcorn is a she?"
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Male 10,855
@wgirvine



Cuz she didn`t ask for vitriolic "non-advice" you d1p5h17 troll!.
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Female 305
@mr_c_bowler the first joke was funny. the fourth joke is kinda funny but black people are worse drivers than women. and the rest still involve the typical "kitchen" cliche. try again.
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Male 819
"Sarah and You have apparently taken what this guy wrote as a personal attack on yourselves, In other words you internalized it. The only logical reason you or her would have this reaction is because of a bad relationship(s) you`ve had."

Crakrjak you often take what muslims do as personal attacks on yourself. In other words, you internalize it. The only logical reason you would have this reaction is because a muslim man(men) touched you in your special place when you were five.

Sorry... but your logic was so flawed I just had to throw it back in your face... Stop trying to apply some form of broken psychoanalytical logic to people`s opinions to assume things about their past. Some people just have certain opinions. You of all people (I say this because you have opinions that often seem extreme to most people of IAB) should accept that and not try to belittle their opinion by assuming a root cause in their life...
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Female 3
Xavroche, I may just love you. Thank you for being sane in a group of people being insane. You seem to be one of the few people here that has ever had/will ever have a relationship that`s actually worth having.

For the record, the girl who asked this question was well in her rights, in my opinion. My boyfriend`s been looking at buying a new car, and while I would never tell him to not get a car, of course I`m going to express concern if he`s spending money unnecessarily. He pays half the bills too!

That being said, I`ll gladly get out and help my boyfriend on a project (though I`d be more likely to take a project car than he is), but heck no to serving him some hot coco and than screwing his ears off after! (Unless of course he spends all day helping me with a project, serves me curry, and then performs sexual favors the day before/after).
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Female 243
i think we can all agree the "STFU go make me a sandwich" by (some of) the guys isnt helping the argument. being that predictable sucks. lemme guess...someones gonna say "STFU and go get me (insert item here)" :| oh the intelligence....
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Male 7,830
obhwfgirl, it all depends on the relationship. if it is his money, strictly his money, than she has no say in whats going on. now if they are in a long term relationship and pool money, then she may say something if she feels strongly about it. but seeing as shes going on the internet to ask people about this, i doubt they are in a long term mature relationship. therefore she should just let him do what he wants with his jeep and his money.
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Male 309
"OR she could just leave his worthless filthy ass and go date someone that has a NICE car that WORKS. her even being with the guy and being genuinly concerned about his/her financial status means that she is willing to work things out with the guy, which is more than most women do, a lot like to cut and run."

You`re assuming she`s got big enough tits and a tight enough ass to sell to a guy with a nicer car.
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Male 17,511
SmilinSam: Apparently this hit a nerve with you as well. I never said "because a woman has an opinion she`s in the wrong somehow." Those are your words.

Sarah and You have apparently taken what this guy wrote as a personal attack on yourselves, In other words you internalized it. The only logical reason you or her would have this reaction is because of a bad relationship(s) you`ve had.

I never said her `feelings` were wrong, neither did I dismiss them. I merely said that "...it`s hitting to close to home for you."

I`m guessing you read that as something entirely different from what was meant, that`s not unusual for women.
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Male 299
>>wuts with the "make me a sandwich", "get back in the kitchen" jokes? not only is it getting old, but its the ONLY female insult you guys can think of. amuse me and think of something else.

want to hear a funny joke? womens rights.
why did god make women? you think he`s going to wash the dishes?
why do women get married in white? so they can get a new dress for the funeral
why couldn`t Helen Keller drive? because she was a woman
why did the woman cross the road? wait, better question, why is she out of the kitchen?
how many women does it take to screw in a lightbulb? none, she can cook in the dark

thank you, thank you. i`ll be here all week.

let the war ensue
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Male 819
"haha, get your boyfriend`s tampon out of your ass, faggot."

Dear sir,
Pardon me, Dear boy,
First of all, show a little more respect for your elders.
Second, calling me a "faggot" because I respect women is rather infantile, but then again what should I expect.
I realize that you think your comment was very clever and funny but let me assure you that it wasn`t. It`s the kind of comment that`s been posted a million times on the internet, that I used to post when I was young and an idiot and you were still pooting your diapers, and that is usually posted by people who can`t think of anythig clever to say. If you want to insult me, a bit of wit would be a plus.
I know you are way too young to understand this or to have even been near a woman`s vagina other than at the time of your birth, but respecting women is the best way to actually date an attractive and intelligent woman. Hence I would say it is in the interest of most straight m
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Female 290
Wow... clearly this dude has some issues... and bad experiences.
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Male 2,402
@obhwfgirl replied:

Okay, guys. You want a woman to be the super encouraging SO who supports your dreams? Go back to the 50`s, where you have to be the kind of man that is capable of supporting a family that is completely dependent upon you. All the responsibility and risk is on you.

handys003 responds:
Always have.

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Female 3,598
haha ok guys. you got me, silly trolls...

[quote] Completely misinterpret his post and jump to insults. You showed him."-discobuscuit [/quote]
it amuses me to no end that you called what i said an insult, it is nothing but truth for Crakr, he would be glad to admit any one of those qualities. i was merely pointing out that he frequently presents his opinions as fact and that what he says goes regardless of evidence to counter that (sarah`s words were not "touchy" just well thought out. if it were a man saying those things crakr would not have said anything at all)
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Female 582
Sorry! Got cut off.

But this non-nice individual doesn`t see it that way. He likes being "The Man." He doesn`t want a PARTNER, he wants a mommy-girlfriend to make him lunch while he plays.


I will say though that I like how this non-nice individual reminds us to pick our battles. People are also stubborn and stupid (myself included) and sometimes you have to just let them make their own mistakes.

So the GF encouraging her BF to be responsible with his endeavors? Awesome. Beating a dead horse? Not so awesome.
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Female 582
Okay, guys. You want a woman to be the super encouraging SO who supports your dreams? Go back to the 50`s, where you have to be the kind of man that is capable of supporting a family that is completely dependent upon you. All the responsibility and risk is on you.

If that sounds like a poo deal to you, then accept a smart, responsible woman who wants to have a voice in the relationship. The best relationships I see are when the women want equal responsibility and the men are COMFORTABLE ENOUGH IN THEIR MASCULINITY to let them. It isn`t about being a man or a woman. It`s about being a drating adult.

So I ask you, in this modern context, is it really supportive of a SO to enable poor decisions? I want you to succeed in your endeavors, and you have a better chance of doing that by doing it right.

But this non-nice individual doesn`t see it that way. He likes being "The Man." He doesn`t want a PARTNER, he wants a mommy-girlfriend to make him lunch while
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Male 2,402
@tincel1372

Your right (Sniff... sniff) I`m sorry! Now can you clean those fish and bring me a beer.
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Male 299
@tincel1372

...she asked for his opinion, thats what he gave her
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Male 776
the impossibility here.

good luck getting your GED, Tharnambular... you are going to need it...
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Male 776
"Jackasses like him need have their dick ripped off slowly with a dull cheese grader before having his testicles hard boiled over an open flame."

Idiots like you need a thorough evaluation of their stupidity.

First of all, a "dull cheese grader" is simply an improper tool for slowly ripping off a dick. You need to understand that this dim-witted person is only reasonably talented at evaluating cheese, that is hardly the type of person you want inflicting any sort of harm.

additionally, if you meant cheese grater then you are again in the wrong because that is a device designed to grate (To reduce to fragments, shreds, or powder by rubbing against an abrasive surface.) something. Grating somebody`s penis would be painful however the end product would hardly resemble a ripped dick.

Finally, saying "testicles hard boiled over an open flame" also doesn`t make sense. Boiling typically involves liquid, so hopefully you see t
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Female 423
Oh and guys, bashing Sarah`s and SmilinSam`s opinions and insulting them is rude and makes you look terribly childish and unattractive.
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Male 196
@xavroche

haha, get your boyfriend`s tampon out of your ass, faggot.
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Male 7,830
DreamKiller; that evil, dirty, nemesis of mine.
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Male 2,402
@SmilinSam
Becuase men like to be trolls by nature. Now STFU and make me a sandwich. Bring a beer also.
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Female 423
This guy is trying to make a point, but makes an ass of himself in the process.
I`m all for the ``get involved with your partner`s hobbies``, but it`s not for everyone. She could just try to understand what working on his car means to him if she doesn`t want to help him, but making him to drink and ``f*cking his brains off`` is too much - if it doesn`t come from you, don`t do it only to please. That`s not how a healthy relationship works.
And mocking her througout his post for being concerned with the way her man spends his money and advicing him about it just makes this guy look angry and limited - probably needs to get laid.
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Male 819
Last but not least, special shout out to Addler:
Your comment was completely out of line... at your age you have no idea what a serious relationship is, so get off of sarah`s back and keep your stupid comments for the posts on subjects from high school or Justin Bieber....

"stfu mulan182, go get me a beer!"

Too bad you`re not old enough to have one...
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Male 71
Jackasses like him need have their dick ripped off slowly with a dull cheese grader before having his testicles hard boiled over an open flame.
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Male 819
At all you idiots attacking sarahofborg:
Welcome to the 21st century. Let me explain why you can`t find a decent girl that will sleep with you. You`re all mysoginistic idiots who think that a woman who is intelligent or opionionated must be a lesbian. Your idea of a "modern/ideal" woman is one that will rub your back while you fix a car, run to get you a beer and then be dying to screw you immediately afterwards? Pathetic... Everything sarah said made perfect sense. the logic that they aren`t married so it`s none of her business is retarded. They can be not married and living together or with finances in common.

If someone I had finances in common with or who I was planning on settling down with threw their money out the window I would be concerned. The fact that this seems so wrong to everyone is probably the reason most households end up seperated and most marriages end in divorce.

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Female 23
I am a wife, been married for ten years now. I agree with the man who replied. I would do the same things that he suggested that the OP do for her boyfriend. Men deserve love, respect, compassion, and to be able to live their dreams!
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Male 542
"ok so because a woman has an opinion she`s in the wrong somehow. oh but i forgot you`re a conservative christian right wing republican straight white american male. you can do no wrong and your opinions mean more than anyone elses. forgive me."

Completely misinterpret his post and jump to insults. You showed him.
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Male 776
stfu mulan182, go get me a beer!
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Female 305
wuts with the "make me a sandwich", "get back in the kitchen" jokes? not only is it getting old, but its the ONLY female insult you guys can think of. amuse me and think of something else.
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Male 1,744
to be fair he did pay too much for that jeep

and Sarahofborg, what the hell is wrong with motorcycles? get back in the kitchen
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Female 3,598
i`m not being sarcastic in any way. i`m a reasonable and rational PERSON. (stupid stereotypes be damned men/women left/right black/white WHATEVER) i don`t believe in putting people in boxes and every situation needs to be looked at objectively. all you people on this thread screaming one way or the other have no background on this story therefor are making assumptions based on a stupid post. and you`re insulting more than half of the world`s population while doing so, congratulations.
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Male 589
smilin sam; there needs to be more women like you...unless you are being sarcastic. Eat kitty litter if you are being sarcastic.
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Female 3,598
why are all you guys attacking sarah? her responses were reasonable, unlike yours or the guy`s in this post. fragile male ego... i`m not gonna tell YOU to STFU because that is RUDE.
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Male 12,365
[quote]This is the most misogynistic crap I`ve ever read.[/quote]

If you want people to pay any attention, that`s a bad way to start.

The word `misogyny` has been so badly abused for so long that it puts anyone other than feminists off reading whatever else the person using it might have to say. The primary meaning of `misogyny` nowadays is `I am an annoying git and a sexist hypocrite`. It`s counter-productive to use it if you`re neither.
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Male 2,402
@SarahofBorg

Let me put it clearer words for all the males out there.

STFU! You do not understand the male period. Go find a girlfriend to bitch with and leave us men alone.
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Female 3,598
OR she could just leave his worthless filthy ass and go date someone that has a NICE car that WORKS. her even being with the guy and being genuinly concerned about his/her financial status means that she is willing to work things out with the guy, which is more than most women do, a lot like to cut and run.
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Female 3,598
CrakrJak:"SarahofBorg: You seem extremely touchy about this subject, I have a feeling it`s hitting to close to home for you."
ok so because a woman has an opinion she`s in the wrong somehow. oh but i forgot you`re a conservative christian right wing republican straight white american male. you can do no wrong and your opinions mean more than anyone elses. forgive me.
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Male 2,441
Says the man who has never experienced vagina
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Male 196
@sarahofborg

go fix me a hot lunch, woman.
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Male 2,332
TLDR: Make me a sammich woman!
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Female 243
as for the her telling him where to spend his money stuff, the guy that replied is right. they`re not married, he can do what he wants with his money if they have seperate finances...and hell, helping him repair the engine isnt such a bad idea either. but as for bathing him, and serving him and screwing "his ears off" and using her body to get the attention of OTHER MEN...i have a sense this guy is a total douchebag and cant keep a girlfriend with more than half a brain.
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Male 2,592
Sarahofborg,
It sounds like you fall into the category of the first two paragraphs.
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Male 282
and boob jobs and plastic lips are rational ideas?

so phuckin lame and egotistical.
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Female 3,598
wow that is asinine. what a great "do whatever your husband/boyfriend says" kind of attitude. why doesn`t he just tell her to get back in the kitchen unless she`s having a baby. F*CK that guy.
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Male 286
"Oh and yes, it`s fine if a guy wants to spend a little extra money on something stupid if it makes him happy, but there`s a point where it`s extremely irrational. I would understand if he managed to get this poobox car for a really cheap price to begin with and he makes it more valuable by putting in the effort, but he`s literally throwing his money away. Plus, if she thinks this is a bad idea, he really needs to consider her opinion as an equal. I don`t care if she knows nothing of cars, this has more to do with finances. If she encourages this stupidity it won`t be long before he starts spending money on motorcycles instead of food or rent. There`s only so much stupidity that is tolerable. "


It`s his money. I think it`s equally stupid when women buy clothes for as much as they do.
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Male 282
LOL
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Male 17,511
SarahofBorg: You seem extremely touchy about this subject, I have a feeling it`s hitting to close to home for you.
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Female 448
Someone is recently divorced...
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Male 83
hey some positive inter-relationship advice that actually works!

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Male 776
"There`s only so much stupidity that is tolerable."

the same goes for annoying posters on IAB, so please unplug your keyboard, smash it and whatever you do, DON`T buy a new one
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Female 3,562
Oh and yes, it`s fine if a guy wants to spend a little extra money on something stupid if it makes him happy, but there`s a point where it`s extremely irrational. I would understand if he managed to get this poobox car for a really cheap price to begin with and he makes it more valuable by putting in the effort, but he`s literally throwing his money away. Plus, if she thinks this is a bad idea, he really needs to consider her opinion as an equal. I don`t care if she knows nothing of cars, this has more to do with finances. If she encourages this stupidity it won`t be long before he starts spending money on motorcycles instead of food or rent. There`s only so much stupidity that is tolerable.
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Male 1,587
Man... a guy can dream you know?
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Male 10
I want to buy this man a drink...
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Female 3,562
This is the most misogynistic crap I`ve ever read. She`s supposed to let him throw away all his money and time on a worthless project for a crappy worthless car, AND help him with it, AND serve him coffee and hot chocolate AND screw his brains out. Because the relationship is ALL about doing what HE wants and serving him. Plus, all she has to do to get help from other guys is show off some cleavage. Heck, maybe all she needs to do is sleep with other men who can help, then maybe she should marry them because they`re not so goddamn stupid as her boyfriend.
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Male 12,138
Ouch, someone just got told.
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Male 926
That was an o v e r r e a c t i o n
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Female 152
Well that was a lovely pile of tripe. I am all for taking care of your significant other, and putting effort into it, and sharing their interests with them. But it goes both ways. They way he wrote this, he thinks a girl devote herself completely to the happiness and pursuits of a man without any kind of reciprocation going on. What the hell?

Not to mention his pile of outdated cliches about her wanting to shop or expecting her to have the kind of manicure where you can break a nail. Either this man has only interacted with walking stereotypes or he learned his social skills from old sitcom reruns.
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Male 17,511
That`s right, Amen brother!
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Female 682
a little mean.....but kind of true-ish....bitchy people don`t help at all and jeeps are fun. :D
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Male 12,365
Too much the other way, in my opinion.

If they`re together, then what one spends money on affects the other. No need for a joint bank account, but it does matter. Key questions would be how much she spends on non-essentials, how much they each earn and how easily he can afford to spend the extra money. The extra money he`s spending on the car is a non-essential - the main point is working on the car, not getting the best ratio of car to money.

Taking a supporting role might be a good thing, or it might not. Maybe this is something he wants to do by himself. Maybe it would be best to just buy him a detailed manual for that model of car - a show of support without intruding.

But I`d say that what he`s suggesting is subsuming herself to him more than is healthy. If she likes to mess with cars and they both want to rebuild one together, fine. If not, also fine. If they do it together, then they should be bringing each other drinks, etc.
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Male 39,885
I seriously doubt that girl is smart enough to take the advice and run with it.

if she treated her man that well, he would be more than willing to go out and slay dragons for her.

but as I said, I doubt she smart enough .
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Male 776
"Oh and I pity the poor sods clapping for this guy. Obviously you are all victims of your own poor choice in women."

more words of wisdom coming from a guy who decided "Digital_Babu" was a great idea for a name. You, my good sir have nothing to contribute in a discussion regarding choice or taste in anything.

additionally, champbronc3, could you please educate me as to what a shovenist is?
looking at the word makes me think of somebody who really likes shoving people. And, whatever rudeness may have been evident in the response, there seemed to be very little evidence that the guy is into shoving people. I would like to know what details in his writing made you come to the conclusion that this man is a "shovenist".
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Male 743
*Joins in on progressively faster clap*
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Male 77
@samidoll

I think it`s kind of presumptuous (proper term?) to assume she is out of line. We don`t know anything about their relation, what responsibilities they have towards each other financially. Besides, even if it was his own money, even if it was his own decision to go all out on his hobby/dreams/whatever.

As his girlfriend, she also should be free to have an opinion about it.

Yet everyone clapping is assuming she`s a stereotypical girl with a stereotypical boy. And she should shut the f up, because she`s a girl and girls don`t understand boy stuff.

It`s sexist, it`s chauvinistic, it`s laughable.
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Male 880
Someone give that man a medal.

*Joins slow clap, adds fast herpes*
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Male 2,592
Amen
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Female 614
oh, and digitalbabu, you don`t have to have drank spoiled milk to recognize how it looks in the carton. you feel me? we`re not projecting by agreeing that this girl was out of line.
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Male 716
Too long, did not read.
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Female 839
what a dratface
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Male 15,510
He is trying to save a brothers life
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Female 614
AH!! my boyfriend was one of the first guys to post on this forum after this happened! i agree with the guy, she has no right to say anything about it. i`ve been dating my guy for 5 years, and i don`t pretend to have any say over what he does with his money. thats just not fair.
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Female 1,077
*begins WOOOOO-ing as we all clap*
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Male 112
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Female 513
As a woman, I actually really like his advice. Helping a man rebuild something, cheering him on, pushing him into the shower, all that- is incredibly sexy to me.
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