Egypt: A Nation Forced Offline (Jan. 25th, 2011)

Submitted by: RarLoco 6 years ago in

Egypt protests and their government literally shut off their internet access. They have no means of communication.
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Male 69
That [email protected]#T is Bananas
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Female 192
There are still videos on youtube though... even if they`re offline, people can still see what`s been going on, and also thanks to news networks.
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Female 4,039
Thankfully, the soup cans and string were working just fine.
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Female 152
I haven`t read the whole thread, but I would like to say one thing: just because one option is not working quickly/well/at all, does not mean that other options automatically will - ie, just because protesters in a country have not managed to change it from the inside doesn`t mean a foreign intervention would work better.

I`m just saying, there are situations with no good solution.
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Male 10,855
Hehe.

I actually heard that most Arabs would prefer a dictator who rose to power on his own efforts rather than one put in place by us.
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Male 10,338
No I agree Cajun. I hate the US policy of installing puppet dictators.

I wish we would just let them be, and if they develops nukes, or saber rattle Israel, drop a couple bombs on `em and tell them to chill.

Trying to change the Middle East from the inside is obviously not working.
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Male 10,855
[quote](from a US point of view) began under the Carter Administration.[/quote]


Okay then but, Reagan still chose carry out the policy.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Carter did nothing to really stop the snowball from growing.[/quote]


I don`t think such an intervention would`ve been appropriate anyway.
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Male 10,338
@Cajun:

You`re right, but the unrest began in `77, and Carter did nothing to really stop the snowball from growing.

I guess, technically, Reagan was in office when Mubarak took power, but the policy that led to his rise (from a US point of view) began under the Carter Administration.
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Male 10,855
@auburnjunky


I thought Jimmy Peanut-farmer was out of office before Anwar Sadat was assassinated?

Also the Iranian Revolution was an ultimate response to a 1953 coup backed by US and UK, so don`t blame someone for providing motive.
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Male 88
Because the storming of the Bastille or Winter Palace wouldn`t have happened without Twitter?
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Male 15,510
Just to think in all those poor souls who didnt manage to wrote "be right back" on their facebook profiles
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Male 10,338
"good thing bush and his neocons are not here to mess it up."

Jimmy Carter is responsible for Mubarak.

He is also responsible for Ayatollah Khomeini, which in turn led to Mahmoud Amadenajad.

So yeah, that comment is now a fail.
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Male 10,855
@auburnjunky

They still got Turkey.
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Male 1,360
let`s hope for the best, this part of the world needs a bit of freedom and one thing is sure the radical muslims won`t bring much.
good thing bush and his neocons are not here to mess it up.
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Male 10,338
"Don`t know about all this, I hope it`s not another `Islamic` Republic in the making. We don`t need another Iran."

I`m not worried about the fact that Egypt will likely now become less secular.

I AM worried about the fact that Mubarek was an American puppet, much like the Shah of Iran, and the people there that take power will use this to their advantage, much like when the Shah got overthrown.

Israel has only Jordan left. If they lose their secular ways, they are double screwed.
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Male 479
letter writing will be on the increase. my money is on egyptian stamps.
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Male 84
its our duty to help these unfortunate people, lets send them crates full of hearty delicious porn

lololol quackor
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Male 37
Go go Team `Merica, invade and oust the oppressive regime! Just like Iraq and Afghanistan, its a failproof plan!
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Male 1,548
@shizzamX
"what are we supposed to do about it?"

Nothing. Wait to see who comes out on top and lobby them to maintain our alliance and keep peace with Israel.
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Male 4,680
@CrakrJak- Al Jazeera?! Fair enough, I was lied to on that one.
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Male 2,855
its our duty to help these unfortunate people, lets send them crates full of hearty delicious porn
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Male 493
Well that sucks. Not much I can do about it though.
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Male 602
Egypt was still one of the most moderate Middle Eastern countries out there. With tourism being a major source of income, they are fairly tolerant of other cultures, as long as they are paying...

They also are the center of the Middle Eastern film industry. At one time they were on par with Bollywood. The press is tolerated an unusual amount of freedom for a ME dictatorship.

They are also treated like Mexican laborers in a lot of their neighboring countries. I don`t think you will see them turning more radical unless the military assumes total control. Even then, it is the middle class that is revolting. If they are sincere in their commitment, one dictator isn`t going to be different from another. They also have the potential of the old El-Baradei, who is very modern and moderate, and loved by the populace.

Depending on the Military and Police of Egypt, this could be a very good thing for the country.
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Male 573
Don`t know about all this, I hope it`s not another `Islamic` Republic in the making. We don`t need another Iran.
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Female 2,695
what exactly are we supposed to do about it?
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Male 698
So is their internet officially up yet?
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Male 39,524
It`s not our place to get their house in order.

The only times the Middle East region has known peace was when it was forced on them with a very heavy iron fist. Left to their own devices, it is just bloodshed and turmoil. Socially they are just not evolved yet.

I`m not saying Westerners are superior, only more developed socially. Europe went through the same thing...centuries ago. {except Germans. don`t turn your back on those guys!}

So I say leave the Middle East alone and let them kill each other. Whoever comes out on top will need to sell oil and the US is the largest buyer so they`ll sell to us.

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Female 430
they shut internet access and mobile services...i don`t know if they still shut but that was two or three days ago...
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Male 218
yea i know its all epic and stuff but cmon they didnt need to add the part about "for the first time in history" the internet has only been around for 25years or so. it doesnt have much history..
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Female 3,001
F`ck me that`s bad...
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Male 10,855
[quote]same time he`s trying to get this exact same power for himself.[/quote]

That bill`s been put on the back burner for a while now, (it does frighten me nonetheless). Last I checked Obama isn`t very keen on bringing it up.
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Male 2,593
To clarify, from what I`ve heard, they`ve shut down the BGP services at 3 of the 4 ISP`s. The last one hasn`t followed the order
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Male 2,593
yea, there are several ISP`s in surrounding countries and outside proxy services in and around the area that people are using
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Male 25,417
wow
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Male 423
The worst is yet to come, poo really gonna start hitting the fan pretty soon
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Male 1,164
Wait, they can DO THAT?

So, my dream of seeing a period of time where I can cut the internet from all the WoW users just to see if they revolt isn`t so far-fetched after all.
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Male 2,384
some day soon enough people will be fed up and start revolting and the police wont be able to do anything about it
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Male 1,744
i heard france set up a dial-up access for anyone in egypt who has a modem and can call france...pretty nice of them really. Think it`s free too, less the long distance charges of course (i`m guessing)
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Male 15,832
It`s funny to hear Obama criticize Mubarak for killing the Internet while at the same time he`s trying to get this exact same power for himself. Well, this is exactly why we should never give it to him or any other president.
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Male 10,855
[quote]I think this has more to do with the government then the religion... just sayin...[/quote]

That was my point actually. He has his unsubstantiated assertions, I have mine.
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Male 2,033
Man, that is 81 million less people to complain about reposts and bad links on IAB. Such a shame.
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Male 17,512
gorgack2000: It`s not propaganda, Aljazeera shown pictures of the inside of the Cairo Museum this evening. Showcases smashed, Items damaged or destroyed, The whole place is a mess of broken glass. They interviewed Dr. Zahi Hawass and he confirmed two mummies where damaged.
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Male 838
"Those that would make a peaceful revolution impossible will make a violent revolution inevitable." -John F. Kennedy...

No truer words...
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Male 296
Rogers anywhere stick lets you take the internet here...and here...and here.
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Male 3,147
The government have denied it....... but I think they`re just in de Nile.
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Male 531
i heard about this on attack of the show
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Male 3,076
NO PORN!!! Oo WTF!!! at least I`m prepared for such horrible crime 4TB 8-) enough for a weekend. seriously those poor people need help no governemet has the right to turn off the internet, that`s just drated up.
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Male 12,365
[quote]@Cajun247 and LazyMe, I think this has more to do with the government then the religion... just sayin...[/quote]

What makes you think it`s possible to seperate the two?
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Male 4,680
@CrakrJak- Apparently that`s Government propaganda so don`t worry too much about it.
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Male 47
I`m sending all my old Playboys to Egypt immediately to help those poor souls.
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Male 1,116
TAKE AWAY MY PORN AND I WILL START A F*CKING REVOLUTION TOO
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Male 546
Men and women have always fought to be free, while men and women fight to have power over others.

All people should guard against the oppression of those from within their own population.

No country or people are immune from this oppression.



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Male 67
so i wonder when this will happen in the US? Probably wont happen due to the fact that the only people who are angry at the government are the old people who fear `communism`(its now socialism dont correct me). the only thing they can do is brain wash (`teach` being the excuse about government) the younger generation to fight for them since they cant do that.

Granted, I dont want to live in a controlling `nanny-state` country, I just wish i didnt have the government constantly looking over my shoulder or taxes directed towards pork projects and environmentally friendly programs...
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Male 39,524
Egypt/Isreal. Carter`s greatest accomplishment is the 30+ year lasting peace treaty. Shame to see them slipping back into barbaric ways, but what else can we expect of "those people".

Yeah, I said "those people". I`m exercising my constitutionally protected right to be a racist. Or in this case a religionist as I don`t have anything against arab athiests. Of course, I never met one. Very superstitious people, the arabs.
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Male 17,512
The museum in central Cairo, which has the world`s biggest collection of Pharaonic antiquities, is adjacent to the headquarters of the ruling National Democratic Party that protesters had earlier set ablaze. Flames were seen still pouring out of the party headquarters early Saturday.

"I felt deeply sorry today when I came this morning to the Egyptian Museum and found that some had tried to raid the museum by force last night," Zahi Hawass, chairman of the Supreme Council of Antiquities, said Saturday.

"Egyptian citizens tried to prevent them and were joined by the tourism police, but some (looters) managed to enter from above and they destroyed two of the mummies," he said.

Dozens of would-be thieves started entering the grounds surrounding the museum, climbing over the metal fence or jumping inside from trees lining the sidewalk outside.

This is truly Saddening. :-(
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Male 1,587
@Evil_Eye, kingpong- I KNOW Arab isn`t a religion, I never said so. But cajun was treating it as such, I was just responding to the fact that this isn`t a religious upheaval, ok? I`m not a simpleton.
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Male 4,793
US presidents have this power. Should they ever use it then I will not feel bad when some enraged person does something... awful, to them. I`d love to be more precise, but this country lacks freedom of speech.
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Male 1,442
1) Cajun247 + tn11 + kingpong, Arab is not a religion or a region. It is a cultural and linguistic term (aka, a race of people who speak Arabic as a first langerage and whos family have originated from Arabia).

2) Gerry1of1, four out of five of the major muslim nations have had a female leader, beating your own country (but please don`t vote for Sarah Palin reguardless of what I just said).

3) This was a storm coming and I wish the people good luck in their fight. Really hope the whole middle east doesn`t all kick-off with the middle man Egypt (that normaly keeps peace between the nations) being down.
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Male 322
Hosni Mubarak is a dictator who`s stayed in power for decades and has made his government a laughing stock, along with his country as well. This uprising has been welling up for all this time, and finally it`s exploded. Long live the youth who don`t stay silent.
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Male 322
Gerry: Egypt, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Malaysia, Pakistan (yes, Pakistan, I live there, so I would know), majority of the women there wear makeup WITHOUT covering themselves up, wear jeans, tshirts and all the rest.
Just because the BBC keeps showing us images of the burqa clad women in certain suburbs everytime the word arab or muslim is mentioned doesn`t make it the mainstream reality. Those realities are in Yemen, Oman, Saudi Arabia and Iran.
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Male 2,229
The United States government is waiting and planning to do the same in a "just in case" scenario. Certain Corporations would love it, cause it would allow THEM to gain a legal monopoly over what is delivered to `the people`, and with how the US government is operating, they`d get to keep too. And the American people (the majority) will allow it to happen, is the sad part.
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Male 39,524
Egypt has had a long run of prosperous economic times and technical/social advancements. One of the few muslim nations where women are educated and can {gasp!} wear make up.

But now Hesbolah has them stirred up and it`ll revert to a 3rd world, middle-ages mentality. Another Afganastan in the making.

Another example of . . . i`ll let you draw your own conclusion
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Male 639
@tn11, Arab doesn`t have to do with religion, it has to do with a region.
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Male 10,338
Agreed. This is not a religious debate.

They didn`t turn off the internet because Allah or God said so. They turned it off out of fear of losing power.

Total and complete corruption.
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Male 240
This is the power that Obama want`s
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Male 546
The Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs has approved a cybersecurity bill, Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act (PCNAA), that would give the president far-reaching authority over the Internet in the case of emergency.
Huffington Post | Bianca Bosker First Posted: 06-25-10 02:46 PM | Updated: 08-25-10 05:12 AM
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Male 1,587
@Cajun247 and LazyMe, I think this has more to do with the government then the religion... just sayin...
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Male 10,855
@LazyMe

Silly christian countries wallowing in misery and corruption.
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Male 2,841
Turning off the internet is the first step towards the apocalypse.
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Male 1,587
remember this when you vote for public offices. WE have the power to choose WHO we elect. It is OUR responsibility in a democratic nation to vote and KNOW WHO WE ARE VOTING FOR. We elect the people who make these decisions. So, who`s fault is it this Internet kill switch is even being discussed? I know none of us may not have known this would be brought up, and so could not vote about it, but do you think that the bill could go through before the next election? I don`t think so. So don`t re-elect the people who make decisions you don`t like. Please. It hurts the rest of us out there who give a damn and vote.
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Female 7,981
I love some of the phone interviews with tourists, some of them find it quite amusing if a tad nerve-wracking.
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Male 10,440
Silly arab countries... wallowing in corruption and misery.
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Male 506
NO PORN?

LIBERTY CALLS.
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Male 10,855
interesting
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Male 54
WTF!? They can`t block the Internets!!!!

Srs, if this would happen over here... I would go drating postal on the streets.
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Male 263
That sucks, makes you think if that can happen in Egypt, then it could happen anywhere. And our government wanted to introduce a bill for an Internet kill switch the president could flip. Stand up for your rights!!!
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Female 7,981
Frightening for them, but it is amazing when a country decides it has had enough.
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Female 53
Link: Egypt: A Nation Forced Offline (Jan. 25th, 2011) [Rate Link] - Egypt protests and their government literally shut off their internet access. They have no means of communication.
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