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  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    December 13, 2010 at 1:36 pm
    Link: Royal Engagement Photo: William & Catherine - I-A-B, what do you think? Does the UK`s royal hierarchy have a place in today`s world? Should it be kept? Banished?
  2. Profile photo of B-b-beccah
    B-b-beccah Female 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 1:43 pm
    they`re sexy enough to stay on MY money yo. damn!
  3. Profile photo of TheLemur
    TheLemur Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 1:45 pm
    I think that this picture looks shopped, I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time
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    megavidiot Male 30-39
    901 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 1:48 pm
    The world needs this stuff still, keep it!
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    chicobartend Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 1:48 pm
    Who gives a greasy cr*p? Is this the best you can do Fancy?
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 1:51 pm
    I heard that they don`t really have as much, if any, power any more. They`re mainly there for show. Am I incorrect? Any UK users want to clarify?
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    srwilde Male 30-39
    60 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 1:55 pm
    Do they have a place? Sure, in England. The rest of us don`t give a whit one way or the other about them. BTW, she`s a skinny lass.
  8. Profile photo of darkhawk
    darkhawk Male 70 & Over
    260 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 1:55 pm
    ALL hierarchies should be banished.
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    green_btrfly Female 18-29
    751 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 1:56 pm
    he`s really not that good looking. I`m sure he`s very sweet, and his personality is appealing- you know, along with the whole prince thing! lol

    But not my type.
  10. Profile photo of Selous
    Selous Male 30-39
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    December 13, 2010 at 1:59 pm
    long live the british empire!!

    personally i like harry more but both these boys will be great world leaders
  11. Profile photo of DamienLike
    DamienLike Male 13-17
    705 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 1:59 pm
    I don`t care about the Goddamn heirarchy. All I know is that Kate Middleton is HAWT
  12. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
    505 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 1:59 pm
    Nidonemo:

    I think the queen is the only one with any "power" and it`s more a formality. She has to approve all the bullpoo the goverment want put through. Although i`m fairly sure it`s just rubber stamping now.

    Other than that, i don`t believe our royalty has any real power, or really contributes anything.

  13. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 13, 2010 at 1:59 pm
    only HM`s subjects can have a say in this, really.

    The royal family is still relevant and important.

    `nuff said.
  14. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
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    December 13, 2010 at 2:02 pm
    She`s elegant and he`s princely. I say, fine couple. Good for the UK.
  15. Profile photo of TKD_Master
    TKD_Master Male 18-29
    4794 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 2:03 pm
    I think it has a place in Europe. America has nothing to do with it. It even says in our constitution that we will not recognize titles of nobility in the US. So technically, according to our constitution, the moment they step on US soil we shouldn`t really care cause they are just another person. I don`t understand why people do care though, `oh look! that person was born that way! impressive!`
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    greggpethers Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 2:03 pm
    unlike america, whose constitution is an amalgamation of the best parts of democracies in the old world, the english constitution (such as it is), evolved over many many years...

    the queen still, in theory, gives the prime minister the right to govern (the winner of the election doesnt HAVE to be afforded the position of prime minister), and is still technically above the law in Britain.

    we didnt have it as easy as just setting up a new world. we grew it. and as much as it isnt perfect, there is poetry in its nuances.

    trust me.
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    danthew Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 2:05 pm
    UK user here. They don`t really have any power, they`re mainly still there just for tradition and the tourist money they bring. However technically they are a kind of failsafe. The Queen has to give all new governments permission to form. If she feels that they are unable to govern for any reason or that the election process was unfair, she can deny they the ability to form a government. Whilst this probably wouldn`t actually change anything, the new corrupt government would probably form regardless, the Queen would become a rally point for all the protests and resistance.
  18. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
    18499 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 2:06 pm
    chicobartend, when you start submitting links, come at me. Otherwise, shut up.
  19. Profile photo of hatface
    hatface Male 18-29
    605 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 2:08 pm
    Oh keep them, makes a fortune for tourism.
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    marcus2 Male 13-17
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    December 13, 2010 at 2:09 pm
    @Nidonemo youre pretty much right. the monarchy has next to no power, its all down to the qoverment nowadays.
  21. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
    505 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 2:10 pm
    Hatface:

    Do they though? I`ve never seen figures on how much they bring and also how much they spend. Further more, how many people honestly come to the UK to visit that jug eared muppet charles?
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    Bored-er Female 18-29
    148 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 2:12 pm
    B*tch is goin down. stole my future husband
  23. Profile photo of mcfudge
    mcfudge Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 2:13 pm
    Its not like the royal family has any power any more... wouldn`t make a difference if they were banished.

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    digbychicken Male 18-29
    235 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 2:14 pm
    course we should keep it without the monkey we would be fooked
  25. Profile photo of digbychicken
    digbychicken Male 18-29
    235 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 2:14 pm
    monkey wtf? money
  26. Profile photo of Skadi
    Skadi Female 18-29
    82 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 2:14 pm
    I hate you! My plan was to marry him. Bitch.
  27. Profile photo of xiquiripat
    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 2:15 pm
    Considering how much tax money the brits waste pampering the royal family who are there just for show I think it`s high time that they acknowledge reality and just get rid of the monarchy for good. But then again I`m American so I have a skewed perspective of royalty. Curse you King George!BBC article
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    slab-of-rage Male 18-29
    769 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 2:16 pm
    Our monarchy is here mainly for the tourists; they hold no real power, effect no changes, make no laws. I like having a royal family, but I really don`t get all the fuss over this engagement bollocks. The cynical part of me is worried this is all a nice little show to keep the commoners happy whilst the rest of our country goes to poo thanks to the drated up coalition government.

    What I really don`t get is why the hell this would be posted on IAB?
  29. Profile photo of steve17
    steve17 Male 13-17
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    December 13, 2010 at 2:22 pm
    i don`t give a drat
    im pretty sure a lot of British people agree with me
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    December 13, 2010 at 2:24 pm
    I think whether they remain is the decision of the citizens of the UK.

    All the best to our friends from the USA.
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    jdee89 Male 18-29
    71 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 2:31 pm
    i like having a monarchy. i really dont mind supporting them with my taxes. rationally they are a complete anachronism and on a purely sensible level i suppose im a republican, but tbh, i feel quite an affection for old queeny and the windsors.
  32. Profile photo of MildCorma
    MildCorma Male 18-29
    496 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 2:31 pm
    @Reganom

    In 2003/4 the royal family cost the taxpayer 38 million pounds. In return the crown handed over 179.3 million pounds to the treasury, and this is self generated revenue from their engagements and land income. It does not include the amount of money they generate for charitable causes, the amount of money spent by tourists at various locations (in london in particular, how far can you walk without seeing a picture of the queen or buck palace for sale?) nor the amount of business brought into the country by Prince Andrew (easily millions, maybe even billions). There is no doubt they create more money than they cost, and dam am I proud to say I have a queen, even if she is mostly just a figurehead it`s still a pretty amazing thing

    @Mcfudge sure they do, the prime minister cannot disolve parliment without the queens permission, and whilst she rarely if ever speaks about public affairs her input is usually final.
  33. Profile photo of Volsunga
    Volsunga Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 2:37 pm
    @slab-of-rage
    doesn`t the Queen have to sign things into law? I understand she doesn`t have the power of Veto, but she can pocket veto items to make a political statement.
  34. Profile photo of Durrell
    Durrell Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 2:39 pm
    i mostly agree with you on what you say but i think it should be a Commonwealth decision (include Canada and Australia)

    We still have them on our currency, and defer to them on the highest level of law. Prosecution here is also done by a representative of the crown
  35. Profile photo of Volsunga
    Volsunga Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 2:40 pm
    Seriously? Is this what`s attractive the European women? Looks like I`m going to have to knock around a few teeth and catch down`s syndrome.
  36. Profile photo of Darkhumour
    Darkhumour Male 18-29
    257 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 2:41 pm
    mhmm i`d get all royal up in that
  37. Profile photo of Hightech90
    Hightech90 Male 18-29
    72 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 2:41 pm
    I`d hit it
  38. Profile photo of Metum
    Metum Male 13-17
    155 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 2:51 pm
    dem european gurlz woowee
  39. Profile photo of ScottSerious
    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 2:59 pm
    I. DO. NOT. CARE.
  40. Profile photo of CodeJockey
    CodeJockey Male 40-49
    5606 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 3:03 pm
    "Hey! They look like they could be cousins... Oh... Never mind..."
  41. Profile photo of neojester12
    neojester12 Male 18-29
    141 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 3:08 pm
    What`s an uk?
  42. Profile photo of Fatninja01
    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    December 13, 2010 at 3:09 pm
    Its so old fashioned but people still want it so it stays
  43. Profile photo of ledouxrt
    ledouxrt Male 30-39
    321 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 3:11 pm
    The thing that attracts European women is the same that attracts all women... money.
  44. Profile photo of skypirate
    skypirate Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 3:17 pm
    not my country, so i dont really know that much about it. but my totally uneducated opinion is, if they make money keep them, if it cost money to keep `em get rid of them.
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    evanstonian8 Male 40-49
    76 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 3:24 pm
    Are they in Lincoln`s bedroom?
  46. Profile photo of Agent00Smith
    Agent00Smith Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 3:26 pm
    I-A-B fail
  47. Profile photo of micthefish
    micthefish Male 30-39
    22 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 3:35 pm
    get rid of them and all their kind, dukes, duchess, lords, ladies and earls its the 21st century for christs sake. Those lot have been living of the backs of the working classes for a 1000 plus years, and then when we have finished with them turn buck palace into a big whore house!
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    December 13, 2010 at 3:37 pm
    Aristocracy = dividing a country into first-class citizens and second-class ass-kissers.
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    rexusdiablos Male 18-29
    63 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 3:40 pm
    Not trying to ruffle any feathers here but America never effectively won it`s independence from England. The Federal Reserve and IRS are owned by British so who do you think your paying taxes to? Isn`t that why the War of Independence was fought?
  50. Profile photo of chunkymonkie
    chunkymonkie Male 13-17
    670 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 3:47 pm
    BANISH-ED
  51. Profile photo of handys003
    handys003 Male 50-59
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    December 13, 2010 at 3:48 pm
    She is not bad looking. Still though nothing personal toward her. If I was the Prince, marriage would be far from my mind. I would wait another decade to marry.
  52. Profile photo of ruthless1990
    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 3:48 pm
    they make more money in tourism than they cost, so sure, keep them. their good for the economy

    also we get a day off for their wedding, who`s gonna argue with that?
  53. Profile photo of handys003
    handys003 Male 50-59
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    December 13, 2010 at 3:51 pm
    @rexusdiablos

    Please don`t bust our dreams of sugar plums and faeries. Besides the Chinese are going to own everyone soon including the Bank of England.
  54. Profile photo of TopperHey
    TopperHey Male 18-29
    1930 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 3:52 pm
    Lets be fair: we choose to have a royal family. So yay!, royal wedding and bank holiday! And all the men are in the army, so fair play.
  55. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 13, 2010 at 3:52 pm
    @ Hightech90 " I`d hit it "

    Really? He`s not my type.
  56. Profile photo of Joolin
    Joolin Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 3:57 pm
    You know what, i say keep em around. Sure they contribute nothing to society and are politically ineffectual, but they aren`t exactly harming anything either. they can just be a funny reminder of how things used to be. A stupid, backwards yardstick for the progress of the rest of the world.
  57. Profile photo of yoiyoi
    yoiyoi Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 3:58 pm
    I`d hit it.
  58. Profile photo of bowlinguy
    bowlinguy Male 13-17
    126 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 4:02 pm
    not bad looking?! she`s gorgeous!
  59. Profile photo of handys003
    handys003 Male 50-59
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    December 13, 2010 at 4:05 pm
    @Gerry1of1

    Seriously now? You know you would. You would be so endeared into the family.
  60. Profile photo of SlimPickins
    SlimPickins Male 18-29
    120 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 4:07 pm
    ugh. i really do not care for that king Louis XIV decorating style. and i know that is probably not the right name for it, but i is too lazy to Google it and pretend like i know everything.
  61. Profile photo of TxP
    TxP Female 70 & Over
    1192 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 4:14 pm
    oh look at that ring...
    :D
  62. Profile photo of mcssls
    mcssls Female 70 & Over
    695 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 4:19 pm
    archaic throwback to a time that is no longer necessary. The royals are now nothing more than pop media fodder.
  63. Profile photo of Purrie
    Purrie Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 4:22 pm
    I feel like his hair needs to be longer...
  64. Profile photo of November_Rai
    November_Rai Male 30-39
    321 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 4:32 pm
    Who cares?!? She`s BEE-YOO-TEE-FULL!
  65. Profile photo of moonie_kat
    moonie_kat Female 18-29
    359 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 4:39 pm
    @SlimPickins

    Louis XIV was French.
  66. Profile photo of kirstoner
    kirstoner Female 18-29
    535 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 4:45 pm
    Purrie - definitely.
    can u imagine the kinky poo these two must get up to? and the drugs they could get their hands on?! i`d dratin` marry a prince, too.
  67. Profile photo of nastyn800
    nastyn800 Male 18-29
    174 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 4:48 pm
    Who cares? Who f u c king cares!? What is happening to IAB?

    What`s with all of the lameass posts lately?
  68. Profile photo of QueenZira
    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 5:07 pm
    He`s beginning to look more and more like his father....

    KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!

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    Rheaonon Male 18-29
    363 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 5:11 pm
    any children are destined to have a big nose...
  70. Profile photo of omgitsher
    omgitsher Female 18-29
    71 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 5:28 pm
    bahhh she`s a lucky bitch! i want him!! :) <3
  71. Profile photo of mal_BB
    mal_BB Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 5:31 pm
    Don`t care at all; unless we get a public holiday of course...
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    s0rd3dvis1on Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 5:36 pm
    I just want to see how many fingers their children end up with
  73. Profile photo of rammo34
    rammo34 Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 5:38 pm
    Don`t care.
  74. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 13, 2010 at 5:51 pm
    They`re an important part of our cultural heritage.

    The monarch serves the useful political and diplomatic role of a long-term apolitical head of state.

    In an extreme case, they would provide a rallying point and a legal way to overthrow a corrupt government without requiring a revolution. Revolutions are always destablising and very often result in a period of worse oppression than before (the French revolution is a good example).

    We unfairly gouge them for profit. There`s a 100% tax on a lot of their income. Last year, the state took £211M from the royal family (crown estate) and gave them £7.9M of it back (civil list)...and most of that £7.9M goes on other people`s wages anyway. It`s pure ignorance and prejudice to claim they`re spongers, blah blah blah. The truth is the opposite of that - we rip them off.

    The monarchy in general brings a lot of tourism. Tourists don`t come to see Buckingham palace et alia because they`re pret
  75. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 13, 2010 at 6:11 pm
    doesn`t the Queen have to sign things into law? I understand she doesn`t have the power of Veto, but she can pocket veto items to make a political statement.

    On paper, the monarch rules. In practice, it`s never really been that way. Even in feudal times, actual power was split between the monarch, the nobility and the church, and even then the people had legal rights, i.e. power. Nowadays, it`s purely a means of protection from the possibility of a massively corrupt or tyrannical government.

    The last time the monarch used their power unofficially was 1832, when the king forced the great reform act into law.

    The last time the monarch used their power officially was 1707, when the queen vetoed a law by refusing royal assent.
  76. Profile photo of SomeShoes
    SomeShoes Male 13-17
    2056 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 6:14 pm
    gtfo of my canada! lol
  77. Profile photo of KRAYZEEGIRL
    KRAYZEEGIRL Female 30-39
    447 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 6:20 pm
    I think they make a cute couple. Both have good large foreheads :) they can have some little genius babies lol
  78. Profile photo of Angelmassb
    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 6:24 pm
    `shopped
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    JUGGALETTEx0 Female 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 7:06 pm
    @nastyn800

    Links by nastyn800
    (nastyn800 has not added any links)

    so stfu and quit bitching until you contribute. I think fancy does a mighty fine job and I`m sure the majority of people would agree.
  80. Profile photo of AtomicTamale
    AtomicTamale Male 18-29
    74 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 7:23 pm
    I guess only royalty can afford good picture quality nowadays:|
  81. Profile photo of panth753
    panth753 Female 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 7:40 pm
    As an American, I say, "Who outside of England really cares?"
  82. Profile photo of SlothOfDoom
    SlothOfDoom Male 30-39
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    December 13, 2010 at 7:59 pm
    William is one creepy lookin dude. just sayin.
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
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    December 13, 2010 at 8:27 pm
    people like that who get married are like hippies or crazy cat lady who marry their pets because they think the pets are in love and are meant to be together. it has no meaning.
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    December 13, 2010 at 8:29 pm
    Even if they serve no useful purpose, they don`t do any harm. Let them do their thing. People choose to follow them and make them important.
  85. Profile photo of Armauld
    Armauld Female 30-39
    107 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 8:35 pm
    @Panth753
    There is a group of 54 nations called the commonwealth of Nations who consider Queen Elizabeth their head of state. Canada is one such country, so the state of the Monarchy does affect us.
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    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
    1299 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 9:06 pm
    Is it just me or does Williams head look Photoshopped in some way? There`s just an eerie feel about it...

    Also- Is he prematurely aging? He`s not even 30 yet, unless I`m mistaken, and he looks like he`s approaching 40.
  87. Profile photo of razbitom
    razbitom Male 40-49
    911 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 9:09 pm
    as an american expat and australian citizen i care. personally i think the queen is one great girl.
  88. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    December 13, 2010 at 9:17 pm
    Aren`t the Royals just overpaid costume characters in a tourist attraction?
  89. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 13, 2010 at 10:41 pm
    Aren`t the Royals just overpaid costume characters in a tourist attraction?

    Just in case you are completely ignorant rather than trolling:

    No.

    Simple answer to a simple question.

    Do you really think that paying over £200M a year makes someone an overpaid costume character?

    And yes, that is how much the royal family pays to be the royal family. Plus whatever tax they pay on their own incomes. Plus the wages of the people they employ.

    Even if you ignore that £200+ million a year the state takes from them, they`re still badly paid or not paid at all.
  90. Profile photo of DrProfessor
    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 11:23 pm
    C`mon IAB. What`s with the tabloid-y pictures. First Justin Bieber`s new hair, now the royal family.

    Let`s keep to the amusement.
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    Emozin Female 13-17
    24 posts
    December 13, 2010 at 11:34 pm
    @DickenMcHunt, to me, looking near his ear, it looks like he has a mask on.
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    SvampeBob Male 18-29
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    December 13, 2010 at 11:46 pm
    :-| couldn`t care less
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    JUGGALETTEx0 Female 18-29
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    December 14, 2010 at 1:00 am
    C`mon IAB. What`s with the non-contributers bitchin and moaning? First nastyn800, now dr.professor.

    Let`s not bitch if we contribute absoutley nothing.
  94. Profile photo of Vanadil
    Vanadil Male 18-29
    151 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 3:24 am
    With a face like that he`s done quite well.
  95. Profile photo of GinnyRenee
    GinnyRenee Female 18-29
    129 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 3:57 am
    Wasn`t he the cute prince once? WTF happened?
  96. Profile photo of Mr_Pedo_Bear
    Mr_Pedo_Bear Male 70 & Over
    997 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 4:23 am
    Queen and royal family receive 36pence from every tax payer in the land. But compare that to the amount of money they generate its insignificant. As for a lot of the Heritage she pays for repair work to her buildings herself out of her own funds as her funding is not enough to run all the royal households etc because the government take the revenue from the tours etc.

    The queen has royal prerogative and a lot of advisory powers. For instance when Tony Blair wanted to call an election during the foot and mouth crisis it was the queen and her advisor`s who talked him out of it for the good of the people and not spreading the disease around.

    Queen also played a part advising everyone on the coalition proceedings between the main parties discussions.

    Also Yankee`s who said they could ignore her on US soil the Monarch is the head of state, be equivalent of a country ignoring Obama your current head of state,, You can`t ignore her. This means she not PM is the seat
  97. Profile photo of Mr_Pedo_Bear
    Mr_Pedo_Bear Male 70 & Over
    997 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 4:25 am
    continued The seat filler at funerals, or greater of foreign envoys.
  98. Profile photo of ChrisMunich
    ChrisMunich Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2010 at 5:17 am
    There is a certain value to a monarchy, especially for many European states: They have vast diplomatic potential, able to woo numerous heads of state and in many cases serve as apolitical representatives. They have a national function that is related to the functioning of government (in some cases, such as the UK). They also embody an enormous cultural heritage and history.

    Furthermore, as to those who seem to think outside of the UK nobody cares: The queen is the head of the commonwealth, representing almost 1/3 of the world population.

    All arguments that in my view support keeping the monarchy, and that is without even mentioning the amount of money the earn for the people.
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    ForSquirel Male 30-39
    2047 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 5:27 am
    needs more bokeh
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
    4683 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 6:36 am
    "I heard that they don`t really have as much, if any, power any more. They`re mainly there for show. Am I incorrect? Any UK users want to clarify?"

    You are 95% correct.

    The other 5%... I`m pretty sure they have some sort of power somewhere. It`s mostly just ceremonial now however.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 6:46 am
    A monarchy is outdated all of you saying they generate tourist revenue I can tell you personally I don`t care about them. As for their donations that make them so fantastic where did they get that money to begin with? They don`t cost you anything according to who the government that supports them I find that hard to belive. Tell you what I was born King s**t of the cacka tribe how bout you build and staff a palace for me with your taxes and I`ll sit on my ass and act holier than thou.
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
    5196 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 7:08 am
    No matter how much they pretend "It doesn`t matter" there`s always going to be a difference. They will always see their royals as special, their children as special - and the rest as ordinary, their children as ordinary.
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    greggpethers Male 18-29
    271 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 7:21 am
    McGovern1981

    the fact that "you dont care" about the monarchy, and therefore wont see them as a tourist attraction is devastating news.

    i must inform the queen, so we can adjust our budget accordingly.

    tell me this sir, does it also mean you wont be watching the english premier league on saturday? if so, we may as well cancel the whole thing.
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    xKiesix Female 18-29
    448 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 7:47 am
    If I can marry his brother, I am extremely okay with the monarchy. :D
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 8:01 am
    @greggpethers

    As your new king s**t of the cacka tribe yes make it so! Also because I was born beter than you I demand serfs to build a statue of me being beter than you made from nothing less than platinum and the worlds biggest gemstones as my nuts.
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    greggpethers Male 18-29
    271 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 8:15 am
    as opposed to america where 60 years ago if you were born black you couldnt ride a bus with white folk?

    i will explain this to you, because as an american, you dont have much of an understanding of an EVOLUTION of a constitution (indeed, you still have the right to bear arms, despite the fact we now have guns that can fire thousands of rounds a minute, as opposed to the simple rifles of the time).

    We didnt just sit around and decide who would be king, and that was that. it happened over CENTURIES (again, not the forte of the average american), the royal families changed, we had civil wars, bills passed, parliament grew, civil liberties were encouraged and blossomed, and over time, the monarchies role has waned in REAL terms.

    thats why, when the Queen visits ground zero she gets a motorcade. and when Prince Wills gets married, it makes IAB. and when king s**t of kaka talks about politics, he sounds ignorant and poorly informed!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 9:17 am
    @greggpethers

    Sounds like you`ve got something going for prince Wills. I wasn`t in existence 60 yrs ago but your wrong black people were forced to ride in the back of the bus and it was mainly in the south from laws called Jim Crow laws an after effect from the civil war and people who still wanted slavery. As for EVOLUTION of a constitution so has ours see the enacting and repealing of the prohibition for example.Now for the right to bear arms that’s what you call security from a government abusing its power notice it says arms meaning what is used for fighting. Also when the constitution was made it wasn`t simple rifles being used it was muskets. How about you let people who know something about guns make gun laws? People can`t posses an automatic weapon only semi auto unless you pay lots of money and get a class 3 license which was a requirement added also a sort of evolution. As for sitting around and deciding who would be king of course not you let bloodlines do tha
  108. Profile photo of QueenZira
    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 9:23 am
    Boys, boys... Is this really necessary? Our two countries are like this *crosses fingers*
    Bosom buddies, (despite that whole Revolution thing) WW2 anyone? Our neighbors across the pond have a special relationship w/ us, we just click ya know?
  109. Profile photo of AfroAussie
    AfroAussie Male 18-29
    73 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 9:24 am
    if your askinf would it work in america? the answer is obviously no. But asking should it be kept in britain? of course it should, its nothing to do with power or them being royal its just a tradition, and traditions are forever. That question is like saying, Hey lets bannish christmas because it offends the muslims. The only reason america doesnt have a royal family is because your country is only 400 odd years old. Most of the ancient countrys have royal familys dumb ass, stop thinking about yourselfs all the time and consider the differences that the world has.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 9:24 am
    *that

    it happened over CENTURIES (again, not the forte of the average american)

    Ya cause we`re all fat undereducated people who sterotype peoples intellegnce levels based on nationality.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 9:30 am
    But maybe *because* we`re so close, sometimes we scrap like an elder and younger brother... Just spitballing here.
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    APJ311 Male 13-17
    749 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 10:08 am
    I don`t like the royal family and they cost us money, we should get rid of them. I do however, like Buckingham Palace, it just looks so awesome (I like the room in that picture too). :D
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    70challenger Female 18-29
    171 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 10:20 am
    Her smile looks a tad forced. It doesn`t reach her eyes either, I think this is a great example of pretending to be happy.
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    greggpethers Male 18-29
    271 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 10:22 am
    McGovern1981

    i didnt say you were all "fat undereducated people who sterotype peoples intellegnce levels based on nationality"... that`s your own complex mate.

    i live in NYC and i love this country, and city.

    but when you start to talk about the royal family, like it rose up out of the ground one day, and we all just started obeying it, it makes you sound dumb. and that isnt because you ARE dumb, its because you dont understand that before america, the land of the free, democracy, guns, industrialism and all the things that make this country great, there was serfdom, agrarian economies and no real concept of the rule of law.

    and england, probably more so than any other country has a system based on the common law, and on precedents. that`s why we dont have codified constitution!

    i`m not trying to offend you, i`m just stating that your opinion is formed on a weak and shortsighted understanding of the history of the english governmen
  115. Profile photo of Waikika
    Waikika Male 30-39
    12 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 10:29 am
    Isn`t her name Kate?
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    Oystah Female 40-49
    4033 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 11:06 am
    Let me know when the sex tape gets leaked.
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    SoberGuy Male 18-29
    347 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 11:41 am
    so.. IAB WANTS us to start a flame war? i... i feel used...
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 11:55 am
    @greggpethers

    When did I say they magically appeared? Yes I realize it was a form of government created in medieval really even before then but they did something then. Now its obsolete but you keep them around for tradition I guess and give them your money to do jack squat.
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    deathbringer Male 18-29
    398 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 11:57 am
    Props to Greg`s reasonable rebuttal.
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    greggpethers Male 18-29
    271 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 12:23 pm
    we dont keep them around to do nothing. they serve a subtle balancing role, filling in the gaps that appear within the elected executive.

    we could remove them, but then we would have to replace them. this would cost us huge resources, cause political turmoil, and destroy an institution that generates huge amounts of money through tourism. making england a republic? codifying the constitution? selling all the royal land and estates to the highest bidder? reworking the entire legal system so we have something to derive legal power from?

    i fail to see how this makes things easier.

    if it aint broke, dont fix it.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 1:22 pm
    Ahhh is that how Prince Charles got all those medals...

    and I thought he just got mumzey to give them to him.
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    liklepip Female 18-29
    136 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 1:39 pm
    ohh please.. get rid of the monarchy... lets just throw culture in the bin.
    oh yes and that wedding such a bad thing getting a bank holiday, Mondays are a bit poo personally and i think a day off college sounds fine too me.
    oh yes and that 36pence tax; i meen it hurts so much when the royals hand out about 200million a year. poo me i feel robbed.
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    dreadqueen00 Female 18-29
    331 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 3:23 pm
    I think the monarchy is part of Britain`s culture and should be preserved...though, not being from there I can`t speak for them. Also, the princess-to-be is just lovely! I hope they are both very happy. :)
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    miarty Female 18-29
    32 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 3:55 pm
    I like the ring.
    Don`t really care either way about the monarchy though.
  125. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 4:35 pm
    As for their donations that make them so fantastic where did they get that money to begin with?

    They inherited it.

    Their ancestors took gained the land that created the wealth by conquering it.

    If you`re arguing that the descendents of people who took land by conquest should not be allowed to own that land, I suggest you pay some attention to your own country`s history.

    If you`re arguing that the state should own all land, property, etc, then I suggest you pay some attention to how badly communism works in the real world.

    Also...who pays the costs of the state buildings in the USA and the wages of the staff for them? The President pays for them out of his own pocket? No? Guess you`re paying for them with your taxes.
  126. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 4:46 pm
    I don`t like the royal family and they cost us money, we should get rid of them.

    You`re wrong. Simple as that. We make a huge profit off the royal family.

    If you think the country should piss that money away because you don`t like the royal family, fine. That is an honest position. Your current position is either dishonesty or ignorance and lack of thought.

    I do however, like Buckingham Palace, it just looks so awesome

    And it looks a lot more awesome to tourists because the queen lives there. So that`s yet more profit from the royal family, on top of the £>200M a year we make from the almost 100% tax imposed on them (crown estate).

    Getting rid of the royal family would cost the UK at least £500M a year in lost revenue from the crown estate and tourism, and that`s a very low estimate. Do you dislike them *that* much?

    That`s ignoring the politicial and diplomatic usefulness of the monar
  127. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 4:51 pm
    Isn`t her name Kate?

    Which is a shortened form of `Katherine`, which is usually spelt with a `C` in English. So, Catherine.

    Queen Kate doesn`t fit as well as Queen Catherine.
  128. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 5:01 pm
    Ahhh is that how Prince Charles got all those medals...

    and I thought he just got mumzey to give them to him.

    You could try learning something about an issue before talking about it. It`s not like it`s a state secret - most of them are to indicate that he`s the ceremonial head of various things.

    You do realise that it`s only certain medals that are awarded for valour, right?
  129. Profile photo of HOBOMOE
    HOBOMOE Male 18-29
    515 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 9:54 pm
    @ angilion
    It`s not that i doubt you, I`m just curious about your source. It`s hard to find reliable data
  130. Profile photo of inaria
    inaria Female 18-29
    1515 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 10:15 pm
    Harry`s so much hotter.
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    keyrow Female 18-29
    18 posts
    December 15, 2010 at 10:56 am
    I found it quite odd when visited England, back in 2005, that people kept asking me if I thought they should "get rid" of the royal family and the parliamentary monarchy system. It was awkward to me because of the impressive number of people that defend the creation of monarchies in republic countries in order to save a huge part of the taxes money. Here in Brazil, to give an example of these efforts, there are two families claiming to be the royal one and, because of that, are able to receive some landing duties that should actually be paid to the Republic (and that`s completely legal here, despite our rejection to the monarchism back in the late `80s).
  132. Profile photo of 8BitHero
    8BitHero Male 18-29
    5414 posts
    December 15, 2010 at 1:40 pm
    She`s good looking. (Y)
    Dammit William you`re lucky. Great quality picture too. Oh @ Keyrow, I think they should stay.
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    lastapplepie Male 13-17
    49 posts
    December 16, 2010 at 1:38 am
    to me it looks like she has a herpe in her mouth
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    Aseliel Male 30-39
    37 posts
    December 16, 2010 at 11:40 am
    Give praise to your soon to be KING! The masters are very pleased as well as the Queen. Huzar!

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