PETA: Maybe They`re Not So Bad Afterall [Pic]

Submitted by: sfhrock 6 years ago in Misc

We could live with PETA is there was more of this and less of the throwing of the red paint all over the place.
There are 219 comments:
Female 208
Yep. Many people will have so little will power as to slit even her throat for tastebuds. They know they shouldn`t, but she tastes good.
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Female 535
MMMMmmmmmm. Meatsteaks.
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Male 2
If she ate meat, she might be able to grow some boobs.
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Female 1,264
Somewhere, someone, would not mind eating her either.
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Male 2,419
@MattPrince
Last I checked vegetarians eat soy products
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Male 6,693
I wouldn`t mind eating on her.
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Female 5
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Male 2,220
"vegetarians : my food poos on your food"

Gr8 sound bite - but - vege`s don`t eat grass, Cows eat grass, so "my food eats its own poo" would be more apt.
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Male 177

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Female 2,525
Not so bad? This is exactly why I hate PETA.
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Male 151
I`ll have the Tramp Stamp please
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Male 417
Hello PETA? I`d like to place an order to-go please ...
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Male 2,220
Me too, totally vagetarian.
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Male 47
ill have some rump and brest please
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Male 28
I`d go vegetarian for her. Well...I`d lie to her about being a vegetarian, at least.
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Male 39,920
According to Dictionary.com

Vegetarian [vej-i-tair-ee-uhn]

adjective
1. Native American word for "Bad Hunter".
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Female 38
id totally do that.. go veg!
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Male 21
This is a waste of taxpayer money!
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Male 604
We`re meant to be omnivores. It`s that simple. Don`t drating care how much greenhouse gas cows are releasing, nor how much rainforest soy farmers are cutting down to keep up with demand. You`re all hurting the environment in your own way. get over it. Omnivores.
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Male 163

gladiators were also morons who entertained with violence...so...yippee.


hmmm so i guess the fact that they were prisoner of wars make them dumb, i guess the fact that they were slaves made into gladiator made them moron.
If you don`t know about something don`t speak up and talk absolute crap.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Calcium is a bad point to make, there was a time we didn`t have yogurt, milk, or cheese.[/quote]

I`m not sure it`s a *bad* point. The idea that calcium intake is an issue for vegetarians (not lacto-ovo vegetarians, just vegetarians) is true, unlike many of the statements made about vegetarianism in this thread. So that makes it a better point than many.

However, calcium is trivially easy to obtain and a person only needs about 1g of it per day. If a vegetarian doesn`t want to have to factor it into their diet, they can just take a vegetarian calcium supplement.
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Male 170
PETA.

inadvertently endorsing cannibalism. yum yum
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Male 12,365
[quote]Extremism is bad for you. You can`t eat only meat nor only vegies.[/quote]

You might be able to get by on only meat, but you`d need to eat parts of the body that we wouldn`t usually call meat.

Depending on what you meant by `vegies`:

No-one is arguing that you can survive on only vegetables.

or

The only thing always missing from a diet of only plants is vitamin B12. Everything else can be got quite easily with the variety of food available in a relatively rich country. You have to get B12 from meat, dairy, eggs, the dung of some animals or a lab/factory (it`s a waste product of some bacteria, so it can be made without animals).
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Male 12,365
[quote]Well, you get odd balls in any group, dontcha.[/quote]

i) Athletes are odd amongst omnivores too.
ii) The existence of athletes who eat only plant matter proves that it is possible to be strong and fit on plants alone, which was the point.

I was countering an absolute assertion. Even one counter-example would have been enough.

[quote]It`s called `Vegan`.[/quote]

By people who don`t know the difference.

[quote]Yes, theoreticall, it`s possible, but way complicated to find the calcium and protiens in plants.[/quote]

No, it isn`t. You just need to educate yourself a little. Unless you live somewhere with limited food supplies, of course. Then it would be difficult, maybe impossible.
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Male 12,365
[quote]gladiators were also morons who entertained with violence...so...yippee.[/quote]

Can I borrow the time machine you used to ascertain the level of intelligence of gladiators?

What? You`re don`t have one and you`re just making stuff up?

What a shame. For a minute I thought I could go back in time and get answers to all sorts of questions.

Could you tell me why you think the fact that you dislike the violence of ancient Roman gladiators "proves" that they were weak and frail?
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Male 2,419
@Gerry101
Calcium is a bad point to make, there was a time we didn`t have yogurt, milk, or cheese.
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Male 39,920
"There are vegetarian athletes."

Well, you get odd balls in any group, dontcha.

"Full-on vegetarian, i.e. no food or drink from any animal source even if it doesn`t directly kill the animal."

It`s called `Vegan`.

Yes, theoreticall, it`s possible, but way complicated to find the calcium and protiens in plants. Most Veg-heads eat till their full, like us meaty types do, and don`t get those key things which is why they all look imaciated.

Bottom line

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Extremism is bad for you. You can`t eat only meat nor only vegies.

Balance is the key.
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Female 177
gladiators were also morons who entertained with violence...so...yippee.
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Female 14
Meh, misa wants them girls big :(
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Male 3,631
Mmm.. delicious, Delicious Cannibalism.
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Male 74
tramp stamp!!!
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Male 12,365
An odd historical take on this:

Analysis of bones from Roman gladiators implies that they didn`t eat meat, or at least ate very little meat. These were people whose lives depended on strength and speed. It wasn`t that they were deprived of meat even if they were still slaves - gladiators were expensive big business and if they were slaves then their owners weren`t going to waste the money they`d spent on training. Successful gladiators got the best of everything. There were entire schools of experts devoted to training gladiators - dieticians, personal fitness trainers, martial artists, the works - and huge amounts of money rode on fights. If gladiators were vegetarian, as it seems they were, it was because a vegetarian diet was considered the best for strength and speed and supported by the rather clear measure of whether or not your gladiators were still alive.
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Male 12,365
It`s not that hard if you get into the habit. Humans tend to prefer a variety of food anyway and our bodies have short-term amino acid storage facilities, so you don`t need to get all the essential amino acids in each meal. Roughly over each day will do.

You could usually do it well enough with just "some of each kind" - some nuts, some legumes, some grains. Cornflakes for breakfast, a handful of nuts for elevenses, vegetarian chilli on rice for lunch...that sort of thing. Just vary the mix - but most people don`t want to eat the same thing every day anyway.
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Male 12,365
[quote]miarty... No protein?[/quote]

Protein isn`t necessarily a problem. I`ll go into a bit more detail:

Humans don`t use protein directly. We use the amino acids that protein is made from. Some we can make ourselves, but some we can only get from food.

We need all of those in roughly the right proportions. Meat, eggs and dairy provide that straight off, especially meat.

No plant source does (a handful are quite close) but different plant sources provide the essential amino acids in different quantities. So you can get the right amounts of all the essential amino acids from eating different plant food.

A simplified example: grains are crap for lysine but legumes are good for it and legumes are crap for tryptophan but grains are good for it. So beans on toast does the job for both those amino acids (and some others). Mix and match knowledgeably over each day and you`re fine for "protein" (i.e. amino acids).
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Male 26
I`ll have the brest rump and inner thigh.
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Male 12,365
[quote]tell me abstinence from eating meat and ONLY fruit and veggies is good after doing a 10 page research paper on `fruit land`. you will be lying.[/quote]

Actually, I`ll be knowledgable. Assuming you`re counting nuts, legumes, etc, as "fruit and veggies". They`re definitely vegetarian.

It`s more complicated than a good omnivorous diet, but it`s possible as long as you eat the right kind of dung or lab-made B12 supplements.

There are vegetarian athletes. Full-on vegetarian, i.e. no food or drink from any animal source even if it doesn`t directly kill the animal.

It`s much simpler if you include eggs and dairy.
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Male 12,365
[quote]In fact, if you do away with all meat-based proteins and fats, you will not like the results in any way. We, in point of fact, require it to survive.[/quote]

In point of fact, you are wrong.

Humans are highly adaptable omnivores. The only necessary nutrient humans can`t get from a pure herbivore diet is B12 and we can, like many other animals, get that from eating very small amounts of dung with our food or water. Nowadays, we can also get it as a supplement made in a lab/factory.

Even some animals classed as carnivores can surbive well on an artificial herbivorous diet with supplements. Dogs, for example.

There are many animals that do genuinely need meat to survive. Cats, for example, will die a very bad death without meat. But not humans, not if they have access to a wide enough range of plant food. Our ancestors couldn`t have done it, but the modern transportation of food makes getting enough variety possible.
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Male 586
AnImbroglio - UM NO PROTIEN? You can get plenty of protein without having to eat meat. You can eat nothing but veggies, fruits and legumes and be perfectly healthy. Don`t let McDonalds tell you different junior

btw i do eat meat because it tastes so good
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Male 660
Great soup bones ;)
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Male 44
Haha, it`s funny because PETA wants attention.
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Male 97
tell me abstinence from eating meat and ONLY fruit and veggies is good after doing a 10 page research paper on `fruit land`. you will be lying.
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Male 838
miarty... No protein? No dietary supplements? No ANYTHING other than veggies? Then I`m gonna have to refer you to the standard definition of "healthy".
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Male 1,351
She can take my chicken wings away, but only if she takes my ranch dressing too. ;-)
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Male 113
I hope vegetables feel pain
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Female 394
I`d eat that...
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Male 243
mmmmmmmeat
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Female 32
@AnImbroglio

Whilst i agree that yes, the human body has evolved so that we are meant to be omnivores, we don`t need it to survive nowadays. I was brought up a vegetarian until i decided to eat meat at age 15, and i am, and always have been, perfectly healthy.
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Male 1,815
She makes me feel liking eating out.




GET IT??
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Male 586
my meat doesn`t usually come with a tramp stamp
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Male 838
"you can not argue that the human body was meant to be an omnivore"

I would like to add that the simple fact that we can digest meat indicates that we are omnivores. In fact, if you do away with all meat-based proteins and fats, you will not like the results in any way. We, in point of fact, require it to survive.
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Male 39,920
thank God for PETA!!

they make the lines shorter at McDonalds
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Male 12,365
[quote]Despite some arguments against it our bodies are designed for hunting, being bipedal with forward facing eyes and (considering a healthy person) strong, lithe bodies which are adapt for reaching speed while also being able to climb, crouch etc.[/quote]

The biggest argument in favour of it is the remarkable efficiency of humans for sustained moderate running speed. We can dump heat better than almost any other animal and we can maintain a moderate run with less effort than almost any other animal. Even the bone structure of our feet is adpated to efficient moderate speed.

Hardly any of us could do it nowadays, but a fit human can run any animal to death.

Sure, an antelope can sprint off at 40mph and leave a human far behind...but a human can track it at 10mph and catch up while it`s cooling down, and repeat that until it drops dead from heatstroke.
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Male 145
I just dropped a deer off to get cut up, can`t wait to have a steak tomorrow evening.
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Male 2,855
maybe when there is enough food for everyone on the planet we can start bitching about what others eat
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Female 277
"you can not argue that the human body was meant to be an omnivore"

Actually you can.
-Our teeth for example are adapt with both carnivorous canines and herbivorous molars.
-Our closest animal relative is the chimpanzee which is also an omnivore.
-There is a much supported theory that suggests the appendix was originally used by our ancestors to aid plant digestion (as this vestigial organ is seen in some herbivores such as koalas), the appendix is inactive nowadays which suggests our bodies are no longer adapt to eating solely plant life.
-Despite some arguments against it our bodies are designed for hunting, being bipedal with forward facing eyes and (considering a healthy person) strong, lithe bodies which are adapt for reaching speed while also being able to climb, crouch etc.
And as for vegetarians out there, I agree that the way we harvest animals is wrong and goes against our instincts, however, the eating of them is not.
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Female 17
She chooses to objectify herself... It is 100% her option to put herself out like this... Oh PETA you have no affect on me at all. Although I do enjoy your effort.
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Male 130
Makes me want to eat meat all the more.
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Male 2,419
"you can not argue that the human body was meant to be an omnivore"

go look at your teeth
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Female 9,572
@BunnyNaku, Never heard that before?
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Male 734
Goddamn Hippies!
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Male 39,920
I bet she`s one of those chicks who doesn`t like it when women are trivialized and viewed as sex objects..... and then she does this

"I`m sitting here topless but don`t look at my tits"
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Female 1,578
So we should have sex with animals instead of eating them? Okay Peta..
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Female 5,222
lol @ "People for the Eating of Tasty Animals "
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Male 163
no one notice the tramp stamp?
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Male 315
You wanna be a vegetarian that is fine with me, but don`t tell me it`s what we are SUPPOSE to be. Wether you believe in God, Evolution, or Scientology, you can not argue that the human body was meant to be an omnivore. It`s how we were built, and I have no intention of going against my body`s design.
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Male 63
@LastJuggalo: Wow, I thought people like you died out in the middle ages. Vegetarians stink? What smells more, rotting flesh or rotten vegetation? Flesh, right? It doesn`t matter whether it`s in a bin or passing through your intestine. Flesh always smell fouler.

If reincarnation is true (big if) I can`t wait for the omnivores to come back as livestock.
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Male 2,229
she`s under nourished, and humans in general don`t make good meat. Tho we do make a decent fertilizer substitute. Oh and pretty good bait for other predators.

Labour, alright, sex, excellent (given that it be the only diversion, and a dumbed down morality, humans will "replicate" like rabbits), aggression, also excellent (we`ll go to `war` on anything, including our collective best interests)

PETA is a corporate fascist`s wet dream, what better method of distraction from the lose of our rights, and freedoms with and increase of exploitation than "animal right" (but I may be mistaken, but isn`t those in the UN Declaration of Universal Rights?)
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Female 1,963
I don`t really understand why PETA`s favourite form of protest is the objectification of women. Then again, there`s nothing I understand about PETA.
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Male 1,439
@collegebound - People for the Eating of Tasty Animals
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Female 212
I love PETA chicks. They are so hot. I- what do you mean they won`t eat steak!?

"She don`t like meat, but she sure likes the bone!"

P.S. I heard vegg-heads stink. Like they actually smell really bad.
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Male 3,745
whats PETA again?
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Male 3,477
Nah, I don`t want any pig soup. She don`t eat animals but I`ll bet she eats "The Meat"! (note tramp stamp)
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Male 4,014
You usually don`t see fat PETA protesters. Just saying.
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Male 537
Shell be kicking herself in the ass in about 10 years once her kid finds this on the internet.
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Female 535
Well you wouldn`t feed many people with her. Don`t these people know anything? You need to plump them up!
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Male 302
She looks tasty.
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Male 3,076
@bigredlevy haha count me in
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Male 1,929
I`d eat that..
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Male 24
I`m a member of peta too.
People for the Eating of Tasty Animals
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Male 1,010
Mmm soup bone
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Female 133
Ugh, I`m doing an animal management course at college, and the PETA members in my class are the thickest most easily lead morons in the world. One of them refused to do an assignment because it involved talking about animal abuse. drating morons.
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Male 9
PETA for cannibalism...?
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Male 15,832
...and that`s supposed to make me NOT want to eat meat?
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Male 1,587
pansy. still wearing the bottoms. I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU, NO, BUFFALO DARE YOU TO TAKE THEM OFF!! hahaha

-enter Marty-
*bawk baaaawk*
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Male 164
mmmmm, I`d like to put that bone in my soup!....wait.
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Male 1,116
Nice, but i still hate you with a f*cking passion, PETA.
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Male 756
she makes me want to eat meat
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Male 2,592
Psychgeek "she doesn`t really believe in the stupid ideology of PETA, she just wanted an excuse to be naked in public and have men gawk at her."

cool
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Female 1,798
she doesn`t really believe in the stupid ideology of PETA, she just wanted an excuse to be naked in public and have men gawk at her.
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Male 2,592
I`m not going to read through all the posts to see if someone already said it (which I`m sure they have) but, I`d eat it
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Male 506
Beef is delicious. She`s pretty hot too.
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Female 118
That`s how they suck you in. False advertising I say..
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Male 2,893
Yum.
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Female 206
PETA kills more animals then they do saving them
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Female 39
Dear PETA,
If you`re going to do a campaign like this AGAIN, please use male models as well as female models. Women are already commodified enough. It doesn`t take much to stop feminists from hating you.
Sincerely,
Some who believes in animal rights and women`s rights.

PS. one anticipatory stfu.
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Female 4,447
Let me guess...naked ladies protesting?
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Male 975
It`s not immoral but we can evaluate its moral permissibility.
Is there something I don`t understand here?
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Male 319
Mmmmmm.....soooooouuuuuuuuup....
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Male 1,629
needs more meat imo
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Male 247
Umm, if this is an attempt to make meat less appetizing, it is a HUGE fail. I`m really hungry for some tender soup bone now...
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Male 12,365
[quote]@Angilion : you get B12 in dairy products, some cereals, soya milk, eggs, etc. So unless you`re totally vegan, i don`t think there`s need for supplements...[/quote]

You only get B12 in cereals or soya if someone has added it, unless you`re eating organic crops fertilised by dung and not entirely cleaned...in which case you`re getting it from the dung.

Vegans don`t use any animal products at all in any way, not just food.

Full-on vegetarians don`t eat or drink any animal products, so they don`t eat or drink dairy products.

You`re thinking of lacto-ovo vegetarians, who will eat animals products that don`t directly kill the animal, but not all vegetarians are like that.

I maintain my point - if you`re not eating animal products and you`re not eating the right type of dung, take B12 supplements.
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Female 49
@Angilion : you get B12 in dairy products, some cereals, soya milk, eggs, etc. So unless you`re totally vegan, i don`t think there`s need for supplements...
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Male 229
I respect vegans. If I ever find myself at lunch or dinner with one and see them eating a salad I very polity order 2 orders of whatever meat they have at the restaurant. Then I take one bite out of every one and chuck the rest in the garbage. Just the look of pure joy on the the vegans face makes it all worth it.
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Female 52
@premierwondr: I never said it was immoral either. All I said was that the appeal to tradition argument doesn`t make sense. And to answer your question, the reason I`m a vegetarian is because I can get my nutrients elsewhere, and yes, I get plenty of them as the supplements I take have an incredible amount of nutrients in them and I eat a lot of soy, and because of that, I feel PERSONALLY, FOR ME, I don`t feel like I need to eat animals
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Male 975
So its immoral to eat meat, and yet eating meat doesn`t make you immoral.
Why be a vegetarian?
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Male 561
this is why you get a job....so you can pay someone else to chase down a sqirrel
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Male 191
@ Angilion

While eating meat certainly makes it less complicated, I usually laugh at all the fat, unhealthy people eating their hamburgers at McDonalds. My point was that it takes time and knowledge to make healthy choices irrespective of whether you choose to eat meat or not.
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Male 12,365
What you can`t get is B12. I`m banging on about B12 a bit because a deficiency of that will really mess you up. Slowly and nastily, over years.

So anyone who is properly vegetarian, i.e. doesn`t eat any animal products, really should eat B12 supplements. You can get vegan ones - B12 is a waste product of some bacteria and not even the most fervent vegan is going to draw the line that far over. You really do need them. There are no plant sources of B12 that humans can use. You eat B12 supplements or you eat dung or you suffer B12 deficiency and B12 deficiency will drat you up badly.
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Male 191
"@Angilion "Show me one human that can run down a squirrel, rabbit, deer, or turkey without some sort of weapon or trap."


freddyferret wrote that."
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Oh my god, what an idiot. Plenty of organisms cannot outrun their prey. Consider Venus fly traps. Or spiders. Most parasites have to wait for their hosts to eat them or make contact with them. Detritivores literally have to wait for their prey to die. Even most lions can`t outrun their prey and have to sneak in close and use the element of surprise. Do you think that if a wolf were to catch a deer by surprise, that the wolf would let the deer go because it didn`t "chase it down"? NO!
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Female 129
"Show me one human that can run down a squirrel, rabbit, deer, or turkey without some sort of weapon or trap."

My friend Luke saw a squirrel on his porch one day, so he ran outside, chased it down, and caught it with his bare hands. He`s no marathon runner, either, just a stoner who thought it`d be cool to pet a squirrel.
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Female 52
premierwondr: you can do whatever you want and I never said that meat-eaters were immoral. I only responded to two arguments against vegetarianism that I argued didn`t make sense. And no, you don`t need an argument as long as you think that insulting people-not their argument- is just as good
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Male 12,365
Gah, cut off at ~980 or so as usual:

Although you can get workably close enough with a vegetarian diet with the "different types" rule of thumb, i.e. eat some grains, some pulses, some nuts, etc.
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Male 12,365
[quote]To be fair, most people, vegetarian or not, don`t really know how to balance their diet.[/quote]

But it`s a fair bit less necessary if you`re an omnivore.

[quote]Maintaining a balanced vegetarian diet isn`t really any more difficult than maintaining a non-vegetarian diet in today`s fast food driven society.[/quote]

I disagree.

If you want to get the right amounts of all the necessary amino acids, you need to know what plant material provides which amino acids in what quantities. I just need to eat some meat. All I need to look at is the quantity of protein - I know it`s made up of all the essential amino acids in the right proportions.

[quote]i.e. Eating meat doesn`t make you healthy.[/quote]

True, but I wasn`t saying it did. I am saying that eating meat makes it easier to have a healthy diet.

Although you can get workably close enough with a vegetarian diet with the "different types" rule of thumb,
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Male 12,365
[quote]@Angilion "Show me one human that can run down a squirrel, rabbit, deer, or turkey without some sort of weapon or trap."[/quote]

freddyferret wrote that.

I was arguing against it, not for it.

I could easily show freddyferret tens of thousands of people who could run down a rabbit, deer, etc, without any weapon or trap. I`d just need to point at any large marathon event.

Many animals can run faster than humans in good physical shape, but only modern horses (which were engineered by humans) can maintain a higher average speed over distance. Even that`s not completely certain - a world class marathon runner could run down any horse.
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Male 916
you can be a vegetarian, i wanna be an humanitarian.
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Male 191
@Angilion

To be fair, most people, vegetarian or not, don`t really know how to balance their diet. Maintaining a balanced vegetarian diet isn`t really any more difficult than maintaining a non-vegetarian diet in today`s fast food driven society.

i.e. Eating meat doesn`t make you healthy.
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Male 2,419
"I could give you all sort of evidence to support that fact that the human body was not designed to eat meat. But you just keep on eating it."

do realize how important animal fat is to the proper development of the brain?

"we aren`t even omnivores. We cook our food."
do you understand what omnivore means? it doesn`t require food to be raw
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Male 28
i eat her...
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Male 12,365
[quote]Not to add to the flame war, but a lot of the arguments about vegetarians being unhealthy are based on stereotypes, not reality.[/quote]

They`re also based on the reality that a genuinely vegetarian diet (none of this "I`m a vegetarian but I eat fish...and chicken" stuff) requires a lot more knowledge, care and attention than an omnivorous diet and a fairly large number of vegetarians don`t have the knowledge, care and/or attention. In other words, they`re doing it wrong.

I bet most vegetarians don`t even know what the essential amino acids are, let alone which combinations of plant material they need to ensure they get them all in sufficient quantity. That`s even including the vegetarians who pay attention to their protein intake...which is only enough if you`re eating meat because meat contains all the amino acids in the right proportions.
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Male 293
I`ve never had an animal tell me not to eat it, so until that happens I will keep eating meat.
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Male 975
I don`t really need an argument, especially since Angilion has it all covered.
In my eyes, someone saying that meat-eaters are immoral is baseless.
Is it drated up that animals are herded into pooty situations and slaughtered in such a way?
Yes, of course that sucks but I`m not about to abandon my life, live rurally and hunt for my own food to avoid that.
I`m also not going to cut meat out of my diet because supplying my diet happens to be a business.
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Male 12,365
[quote]yup too damn skinny to be a meat eater[/quote]

There are vegan bodybuilders. Massive guys with leg-sized arms and all that. As long as you pay careful attention to nutrition (which a bodybuilder would be doing anyway) and get some B12 in a form humans can use (there are no plant sources of that at all, but vegan B12 supplements are made in labs) you can do it. Humans are very adaptable.
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Male 552
vegetarianism is pretty rediculous. But trying to protest the consumption of meat by humans, is even more rediculous. I wonder if these people try to stop lions from eating gazelles. or snakes from eating mice. Humans are another animal. The difference is we`re intelligent enough to industrialize. Besides. being a vegetarian saves 0 animals.
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Male 12,365
[quote]yea strict vegetarians cannot get all of their vitamins from food, but my madre take vitamins for that.[/quote]

The only essential nutrient that`s impossible to get from a truly vegetarian diet *in a modern, industrialised society* is B12. You can get that from dung, but most people would prefer to get it from a lab. It`s a waste product of some bacteria.

A modern, industrialised society is needed because you need a wider variety of plant food than you could get without widespread transportation of food.

Vegetarianism is viable nowadays, if you know what you`re doing. Humans are biologically suited to being omnivores, but we can use our minds and tool-using abilities to live as herbivores if we want to. What winds me up is ignorant burblers who deny reality to say that we`re naturally herbivores.
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Male 301
To add to what Angilion was saying, we are in fact omnivores, which means we are designed/evolved/created to eat both meat and plants. The fact that we use tools doesn`t make us horrible for eating meat (what a strange rational). There are several creatures in nature that also use tools to eat their prey.

Personally I eat meat because I like the taste, and I enjoy the protein that I get from it.

On a side note, is it weird that the pic made me hungry??? ;-)
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Male 72
@Angilion "Show me one human that can run down a squirrel, rabbit, deer, or turkey without some sort of weapon or trap."

Usaine Bolt or any other top black male athletes on the Olympic track or NFL teams...

jk, jk
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Female 112
I don`t eat meat.I think its fine if you eat meat I really don`t care.I`d acually be mad if there was a non carnivourous law.
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Male 1,231
"Also, carnivorous predators are able to catch their prey (meat) without help. They don`t use guns, traps, or farms. They run after it, grab it, and tear it up. Show me one human that can run down a squirrel, rabbit, deer, or turkey without some sort of weapon or trap" Lol @ argument fail.
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Male 12,365
[quote]@freddyferret There`s an interesting theory floating around that early humans, when hunting, ran down their prey in a contest of endurance, as opposed to speed. In an interesting article over at Seed Magazine, there`s some neat speculation on exactly how a human could "run down a squirrel, rabbit, deer, or turkey without some sort of weapon or trap", to use your own words.[/quote]

It isn`t speculation. It`s called persistence hunting. Some humans still live that way, most famously the !Kung, and there are some pretty clear physical adaptations that humans have which make them ideally suited to doing it.

The only animal that a human can`t run down is one that was engineered by humans - the modern horse.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Actually if you compare our teeth to wild animals, they are more like the teeth of herbivores than carnivores.[/quote]

No they aren`t. They`re the teeth of omnivores, because that`s what humans are physically adapted to be.

[quote]Also, carnivorous predators are able to catch their prey (meat) without help. They don`t use guns, traps, or farms. They run after it, grab it, and tear it up. Show me one human that can run down a squirrel, rabbit, deer, or turkey without some sort of weapon or trap.[/quote]

That is a lamest "ignore biology, humans are meant to be vegetarian" argument I have ever seen. The fact that humans are also physiologically adapted to using tools says nothing about what else they`re physiologically adapted to, like being omnivores.

In any case, many carnivores are predominantly scavengers rather than predators. So your argument is just plain wrong all round.
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Female 1,134
*finish eating a hamburger*..... so what are we guys talking about again?
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Male 1,231
Doesn`t look like there`s much meat in the breast...
It`s good that she`s passionate about what she believes in, and kudos to her for having the, ahh, balls, so to speak, to get naked for her cause. I don`t agree with her, or PETA, but I respect their decision not to eat meat, and to be passionate about their ideologies.
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Male 12,365
[quote]You just proved yourself to be the moron auburnjunky.[quote]

Certainly not for the reasons you give. It is absolutely and unequivocally true that humans are physiologically adapted to eating meat.

[quote]Even herbivores have incisors. Having them doesn`t mean you are supposed to eat meat.[/quote]

Herbivores don`t have canines, though, and those that have incisors have different shaped ones adapted for tough plant material such as bark...which humans don`t have. Humans do have canines.

Who cares about "supposed to"? That`s not the argument.
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Male 225
i have serious beef with this. why is it only rated a two.

also: to each his own, but being meat is doucheich
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Male 12,365
Nude women don`t make PETA any less morally reprehensible.
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Female 52
@KannaLilly: I didn`t mean that women can`t be gay and I didn`t mean to offend anyone but I can see that I have so I`m sorry
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Male 272
i`d eat her... in a non-lethal way.
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Female 52
@premierwndr: fine whatever, you said nothing about my argument, but you thought the words were stupid, ok. why don`t you respond when you want to make an argument against it and tell me why mine is stupid?
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Male 975
And Kanna brings up a good point.

morally permissible to eat meat

^
That statement right there was 100 times more lesbian then blah blah blah...
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Male 975
Yes it does.
But if you`d like me to switch it around a bit then here goes...


morally permissible to eat meat

^
That statement right there was 100 times more puss y than anything ive ever heard of
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Female 635
@emrsncptv
I`m a gay woman. I don`t want to get involved with your vegan/meat-lovers argument, because I don`t really care about it, but just... yeah. Shut up. Lesbians exist and are gay. Deal.
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Female 635
I don`t necessarily disagree with PeTA on issues - on some rare occasions, they raise good points - but I hate PeTA as a whole. I wasn`t really impressed with this campaign - it doesn`t raise the morality of eating meat, really, just makes you remember pooty canibal horror flicks.
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Female 52
@ premierwndr: i`m a girl f uckwad so your use of the word gay doesn`t really apply does it?
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Male 31
Their message gets lost when they use sex, people wont be thinking about what her sign says
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Male 271
she can protest on my meat! Ba-dum tsss!
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Male 683
p.s out of 10.... I`d give her 1
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Male 683
FFS i dont mind these animal group that try to stop intensive livestock farming where the animals are kept in terrible conditions but a tiny minority of people trying to tell the rest of the world something as retarded as "dont eat any meat" is starting to piss me off now. Go f yourselves PETA then when you are done go F your mothers then dig up your great grandmothers and F them..... retards
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Male 975
morally permissible to eat meat

^
That statement right there was even gayer than your profile picture.

Its not morally permissible for you to intake energy which is killing our planet either is it?
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Male 40,752
Mmmm white meat! Yummy!
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Male 588
I really don`t see how showing me boobs for eating meat is going to stop me from eating it. I really don`t see how anything can stop me from eating meat, really. Except, maybe, all the tasty animals in the world suddenly disappearing.
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Male 2,441
I am going to avoid this flame war. Nice picture.
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Male 25,416
Yay for PETA! they can protest in my house if they want to do this :)
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Female 52
@ Quck2TheStab: I wasn`t comparing eating meat to slavery. I was saying that the argument- saying that because our ancestors did something, it`s okay- isn`t really valid
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Male 9,305
Quick balance:

- Undercover investigations: Good.
- No pets: Extreme.
- Complete veganism: Extreme.
- Gory posters and red paint on fur: Extreme.
- Intent to help animals: Good.
- Practices to help animals: Extreme.
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Female 13
There are many dietary needs that we don`t fully understand, that any person should be willing to acknowledge. But daily vitamins can supply the necessary zinc, calcium, vitamin D, iron, and B vitamins. Even without taking vitamins every day, I`m much healthier in terms of nutrition than my omnivorous peers. It comes down to personal choice really. I don`t care what anyone else eats, I just don`t like being told that I`m unhealthy when every medical test I`ve gone through says otherwise.
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Male 1,625
I would eat her in a heartbeat.
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Male 658
Comparing eating meat to slavery is retarded.

Cows are not people. As long as we don`t eat apes, simians, cetaceans, or house pets, I say fry `em up.

Also, PETA are still terrorists. Giving signs to naked women just makes them seem more retarded.
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Female 13
Not to add to the flame war, but a lot of the arguments about vegetarians being unhealthy are based on stereotypes, not reality. I`m not a vegan, so I couldn`t tell you about that, but I am a vegetarian and my iron, calcium, and the various B vitamin levels are well above what`s necessary.
It`s important to realize that not every person who eats meat eats well rounded, "healthy" meat. I`m a college student, so most of my peers that eat meat live off fast food burgers, ramen noodles, etc. These sources of meat actually contain far fewer nutrients than the meat substitutes I buy
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Male 1
Why argue over stupid poo. All of us may not like PETA, but some of there work is very beautiful. Like this photo for instance.
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Female 52
@ Isobar: That is no longer the case though and, because we now have the ability to store food, we can afford to evaluate whether or not it is morally permissible to eat meat. Also, just because our ancestors did something a certain way doesn`t mean it`s okay. Are we going to bring back slavery just because our ancestors did it?
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Male 1,834
yup too damn skinny to be a meat eater
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Male 2,034
There are still aboriginal tribes in Northern Australia that literally run down their food. They don`t run and catch it, they just run behind it until the animal get tired. Then kill it and eat it.
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Male 39,920
Vegetarians have weak bones and Vegans are positively brittle. Google it if you don`t belive me.

THEORETICALLY being vegetarian is healthy.
The reality is it`s not. It`s too complicated to figure out which plants gives which mineral when you could just have a good steak.
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Male 633
I`m calling dibbs!
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Male 498
o.O
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Male 22
@freddyferret If you wont waste your time debating this, why bother wasting your time telling us that you supposedly COULD?
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Male 4,680
"I`m not going to waste my time debating this. I could give you all sort of evidence to support that fact that the human body was not designed to eat meat. But you just keep on eating it."

I`m a vegetarian and even I think this argument is bullsh*t.
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Male 293
So... for all those people claiming that vegetarian is the only way to live.

You do realize mankind would be extinct if that were the case? Ya know that back in the day when you couldn`t store food the only way to eat was to go out and get your own food, and come winter time when all the plants die, guess what people had to eat?

Yeah... all your ancestors ate meat, you can protest all you want about the ethical treatment of animals, but in the end you have meat in your blood. Deal with it.
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Male 1,011
terrorists are still terrorists :P
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Male 792
I`d eat that.
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Male 17,511
I`ll take a piece of breast meat please.

No cannibalism meant.
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Male 2,309
we aren`t even omnivores. We cook our food. When was the last time you tore the leg off of a cow and ate it raw, or pulled something out of the ground and devoured it?

We cook our food. That`s more special than picking plant or meat.
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Male 322
yea strict vegetarians cannot get all of their vitamins from food, but my madre take vitamins for that. idk if theyre all made from non-animal products, but eh. who gives a willy
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Male 975
Please, let`s see the evidence I`d love to know.
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Male 975
Freddy I`m no expert on ancient history, but I do know that humans have been eating meat since at least the Ice Age.
Humans would trap and drive deer, caribou, etc over cliffs.
Humans would make tools to kill animals.

Just as a cheetah uses it`s crazy speed to kill an antelope, we humans use our well developed brains to think of a way to catch our prey.

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Female 1,148
"I`m not going to waste my time debating this. I could give you all sort of evidence to support that fact that the human body was not designed to eat meat. But you just keep on eating it."

Same.
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Male 138
I wonder if she has label for pink taco.
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Female 52
@ auburnjunky: a lot of vegetarians take dietary supplements and also get a lot of protein from soy products
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Male 657
The pigment in black tattoo ink is made from buring animal bones down to charcoal. Hypocrite. PS I know the words are not tattoos. I mean the tramp stamp.
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Male 976
>>That`s one vegetarian I wouldn`t mind eating.<<

You, sir, win at life! Well played!
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Male 10,338
Thanks guys lol.

Omnivores UNITE!

A strict vegetarian diet causes health problems.

Only a few of the dietary necessities that vegetarians typically fail to fulfill:

* Zinc, which is an important element needed for healthy skin and a healthy immune system.

*Calcium, which of course is not only needed to keep our bones strong but it is also needed for functioning of the nerves and muscles, as well as helping our blood to clot properly.

* Vitamin D, which is essential for the absorption of calcium and phosphorous.

* Iron, a deficiency of which leads to anemia.

* Vitamin B-12, needed for blood formation and cell division within the body. A deficiency in this vitamin can cause severe and irreversible nerve damage.

* And of course, plain old protein is needed for the body to grow and repair itself.
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Male 541
Dang, she`s hot
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Male 2,440
[quote]I`m not going to waste my time debating this. I could give you all sort of evidence to support that fact that the human body was not designed to eat meat. But you just keep on eating it.[/quote]
freddyferret, you are such a goddamn retard. Go jerk off to PETA protests and Ghost Hunters.
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Female 52
just because we CAN do something, doesn`t mean we should. i could strangle someone to death, doesn`t mean it`s moral
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Male 953
That`s one vegetarian I wouldn`t mind eating.
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Male 506
The body wasn`t designed in the first place, It adapted to changes.
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Female 688
her boobs look a pretty strange shape. also, she looks about 15...
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Male 552
This makes me want to eat meat even more!
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Female 1,329
No matter the era that we humans live in, food of any kind is food. It doesn`t matter if it`s animal or plant, if your hungry enough you will eat what you can obtain.

When people are trapped for days on the sea in a tiny lifeboat with no provisions other than your "fellow" shipmates, they after a while start to look appealing. There have been many examples of this throughout history. Some humans have even resorted to eating the leather that they are wearing.

I`m of the mind that you can whatever you want, just don`t go around pushing YOUR ideals on to me.
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Female 1,515
@freddyferret and I`m sure every arguement you present here can be shot down with science. And common sense.
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Male 11,739
I`m not going to waste my time debating this. I could give you all sort of evidence to support that fact that the human body was not designed to eat meat. But you just keep on eating it.
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Male 15
We are not herbivores, we also are not carnivores, humans are omnivores. Therefore, we are going to have certain characteristics from both sides. Our make up is not simply one or the other, we are designed to live off of both. . . comparing a human to a carnivore as an argument base is just stupid.
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Female 2,120
This picture makes me want to eat an entire cow.
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Male 1,081
Now this is some protesting I can get behind.
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Male 1,378
hypocrites
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Male 769
yeah, freddyferret, I was right there with you until that "Show me one human that can run down a squirrel, rabbit, deer, or turkey without some sort of weapon or trap." line. I can catch rabbits, chickens and fish without tools - plus I`m pretty sure our ancestors were eating wild animals before they started using tools.
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Male 14,331
@freddyferret

That`s why we have minds capable of thinking up and using tools which we did for hunting. Also the ability to digest meat.
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Male 20
@freddyferret There`s an interesting theory floating around that early humans, when hunting, ran down their prey in a contest of endurance, as opposed to speed. In an interesting article over at Seed Magazine, there`s some neat speculation on exactly how a human could "run down a squirrel, rabbit, deer, or turkey without some sort of weapon or trap", to use your own words.
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Male 469
Demean yourself for animals. Join PETA.
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Male 506
What about the enzymes and acids and particular functions that the human body has to consume meat products? I don`t want to get into this debate - I like meat and will carry on eating it.

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Male 2,796
I`d hit it. Then bleed it, skin it, cook it and eat it.
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Male 11,739
Oh, and Chuck Norris doesn`t count.
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Male 11,739
[quote]Why do we have incisors, morons?

FOR TEARING FLESH!![/quote]

You just proved yourself to be the moron auburnjunky. Even herbivores have incisors. Having them doesn`t mean you are supposed to eat meat. Actually if you compare our teeth to wild animals, they are more like the teeth of herbivores than carnivores. Also, carnivorous predators are able to catch their prey (meat) without help. They don`t use guns, traps, or farms. They run after it, grab it, and tear it up. Show me one human that can run down a squirrel, rabbit, deer, or turkey without some sort of weapon or trap.
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Female 1,148
PETA gives vegetarians a bad name.. -sigh-
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Male 1,587
hmmm delicious. Actually this made me want to grill a steak.
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Male 298
This is counter-productive as all the male 13-17s on here are now choking the chicken
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Male 11,739
There is a lot of that if you know where to look. I have a friend who does PETA demonstrations like that all the time. She is HOT too.
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Female 66
Uhm, I`m pretty sure this does not make anyone not want to eat her.
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Male 1,451
Rump stamp.
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Male 769
meh, too scrawny. Not enough meat on her - for both kinds of eating.
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Male 271
MINE
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Male 10,338
It`s still fraking stupid.

Why do we have incisors, morons?

FOR TEARING FLESH!!
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Male 4,680
In before "eating out" jok- oh too late.
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Male 2,085
She may look hot, but guaranteed, she is a whack job.
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Male 165
Not hot enough to balance out the crazy.
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Male 1,610
"Shoulder"

WOW, I learned something today!
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Male 1,129
i would eat every cut of meat off her
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Female 259
Link: PETA: Maybe They`re Not So Bad Afterall [Pic] [Rate Link] - We could live with PETA is there was more of this and less of the throwing of the red paint all over the place.
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