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108 Responses to Joe Rogan Takes On Noah`s Ark

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    davymid Male 30-39
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    December 16, 2010 at 9:15 pm
    Link: Joe Rogan Takes On Noah`s Ark - Since the Creation Museum is going to build a life-size Noah`s Ark, Joey has some questions. Bring your flame-shields.
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    Boredhero78 Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 9:02 am
    wow the insecurity is just screaming of Joe. typical bully is typical. pick on something you don`t understand- twist it so it sounds like a joke, and try to push those beliefs on other people so they have some sort of security. the reason I beleive in God is becasue his message has made sence for so long to so many cultures and times. Im just waiting for the next scientific therory to change what we know now, and for people to question things again. It`s only a matter of time.
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    Boredhero78 Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 9:05 am
    btw im not an idiot. I have a college degree and pay attention to the scientific world. I think it has a lot to teach us but theres more to life than what can be measured. Science is great but it`s not everything.
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2010 at 9:06 am
    I think Joe Rogan is super funny !
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    SvampeBob Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 9:53 am
    haha love it!
    I cant wait for them to finish the ark and try to fit 0,0001% the animals in the world but first they need to see what happens if a antilope get`s close to a lion...
    @Boredhero78 yeah that maybe true that we don`t know every thing and that`s what science is trying to discover!

    And dude are you not satified that before we thought that the world was flat, the sun was orbiting the earth, theory of radioactive decay. I could go on and on.
    God making sence HAHAH...oh you were serious:

    1.If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death. hmm makes perfect sence to me
    2.If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. yep I can see the logic in that
    3.For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death. oh poo!
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    Digital_Babu Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2010 at 10:05 am
    @Boredhero78

    It makes you even a bigger idiot for trying to prove you`re not an idiot by saying you have a college degree.

    You clearly do not understand science, scientific method and what it can and cannot achieve. Science and Religion are categorically different yet most of the proponents of the latter try to impose that both are of the same validity, which is unreasonable to say the least.
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2010 at 11:26 am
    Its taken me a whole year to see 1600 species of living organism in one small county in the UK. There are probably 10 times that number in the county known about, and for such a well studied country, probably a signifcant number of undescribed species yet to be scientifically named.

    On the world scale, all the published naturalists to date have named less than a million species, and its thought that there are anything from 2 to 100 times that amount yet to be described. This is despite millions of people devoting their entire lives to advancing mankinds paultry wildlife knowledge.

    Yet the 600 year old Noah managed to round up the entire worlds fauna (lets forget about the flora its not important right?) in a couple of weeks (Sundays off natch)

    Good work Noah!
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    December 17, 2010 at 11:27 am
    Wow, he`s hilarious - I thought Joe Rogan died. Really. That`s messed up.

    Second, anyone else notice that the guy trying to convince Rogan about the Ark is doing that weird thing with his mouth that people on too many Vicodins or cocaine do? Know what I mean?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2010 at 4:10 pm
    wow the insecurity is just screaming of Joe. typical bully is typical. pick on something you don`t understand- twist it so it sounds like a joke, and try to push those beliefs on other people so they have some sort of security.

    You`re describing organised religion.

    You`ve missed a key point in this case - Joe Rogan very clearly does understand the story and the context. He *understates* how much of a joke it is and he goes a long way to accomodate the story. Of course, to people who believe the story there`s no chance of compromise - either you believe their every word no matter how ridiculous it is or you`re wrong. You know, the kind of people you describe above.

    Guess what? The "boat" referred to wasn`t and the evidence he referred to was fake. No surprises there.

    Something not mentioned - a 515ft wooden boat cannot be seaworthy. It would sink in a perfectly calm enclosed pool.
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    Boredhero78 Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 8:03 pm
    @ digital and everyone else.
    wow, guys I listened to like 5 seconds of this thing and posted a blind comment. I had no idea how anal you guys are on this website but it`s apparent that you guys are a bunch of drating nerds. hahahahahah ya`ll crack me up. I got high and decided to post. Found out later how serious ya`ll take this poo. The whole college thing was just to back myself up but I didn`t think you guys would be such douches about a strangers comment. Hey, ya`ll might think im dumb but at least I have a secure foundation of beliefs and a purpose for life. I pitty you if you don`t.
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    Boredhero78 Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 8:25 pm
    @ digial
    Another thing, what do you know buddy? What makes you think I have no understanding of science? I`ve taken in account both science and religion and find religion to be a better fit. It doesnt mean I have no understand of the basic concepts. Listen, if you know everything about physics, calculus, and biology then you have room to talk but I have a feeling you just like to read up on the stuff other people figure out through their hard work and somehow this makes you discredit any religion. Do you sit down every day, work out formulas, and then come to conclusions or do you regurgitate stuff you see on Nat Geo and Scientific America? I can feel my religion, as well as see it working. That`s all I need.
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    Igmo Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 10:29 pm
    Well, I think Joe made some pretty good points, personally.
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    thedog123123 Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 10:38 pm
    @boredhero78

    You say that the majority of people regurgitate things that other people have written about and that is true to a point. There is no way you`re going to able to figure out all about physics and math by yourself in your lifetime without learning from past scientists. If you were implying more recent papers written in science than you are wrong. The whole idea behind science is to apply critical thinking. If some random scientist writes a paper do you think everyone believes him? No. Other scientist repeat their work and try to verify it.

    A great example is Einstein. Back around the late 1800s physicists were stuck behind a thing ideas. Are maxwell`s equations true? If so than why do they fail with Galilean relativity? Mabye maxwell`s equations are true but we do not live in a relative universe? etc... So he postulated a couple things and derived what is now known as special relativity. (not going into the steps). That is science.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2010 at 10:58 pm
    the reason I beleive in God is becasue his message has made sence for so long... Im just waiting for the next scientific therory... btw im not an idiot. I have a college degree.
    I really hate to cheapify your underlying point and be an asshat, but for someone with a claimed college degree and understanding of science, the words "believe", "because", "sense" and "theory" are not big words to master.

    Please forgive my personal stereotype which forms in my mind from reading your posts, of the kind of person you are. You say Religion > Science. I`ll stay well over here, thank you.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2010 at 10:58 pm
    It wasn`t the whole world. It was a typhoon in the Mediterranean (Basically the known world). It wasn`t 2 of every animal, it was 2 of every local livestock.

    The Old Testament if filled with parables designed to teach lessons. How much you scrutinize each story is up to you, but if you miss the point of the story, you may as well not dwell on it.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2010 at 10:59 pm
    Oh, and whoever said Religion > Science is a moron.

    Two totally different things.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    December 17, 2010 at 11:33 pm
    vv @Angilion has is spot-on: Joe KNOWS his material. He`s not just `winging it` he`s based his routine on research and much thought.
    He`s making lite of just how impossible this particular story is. To take it verbatum (as SOME not all Christians do) is just... retarded! lolz!
    HEY how about this point: God creats the world in Genesis 1, kicks humans out of Eden by chapter 3, and by Chapter 6 he`s so P.O`d he`s gonna destroy the whole thing? Wow talk about a short fuse!

    @Davymid: Be sure to watch the World Junior Hockey comming up just after Christmas: REAL GOOD HOCKEY! (off topic I know)

    @AJ It`s worse than that: seven pairs of all `clean` animals (Gen 7:2) and 14 of each bird too.
    Going to read the comments now...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    December 17, 2010 at 11:44 pm
    Genesis 7:20 the waters prevailed above the mountains, covering them fifteen cubits (about 40 feet) deep.
    Um, just WHO measured that little factoid? LMAO!

    Noah: Hey Japheth! What`s that down there under the water? Is that Mount Everest?
    Japheth: yeah dad, it`s at least 15 cubits down, how much does the arc draft?
    Noah: What? How am I supposed to know that? I only built the thing...
    (& etc)

    Genesis 8:6 & onward: you know, in the Aztec stories, Quetzaloatl checks if the earth is ready for humans to awaken by sending a Raven, Owl and Eagle...
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    hyeonkim0805 Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 11:45 pm
    This is not about whether the story of Noah`s Ark is true. It`s about the people who believe in the story down to every single letter. Making good points to debunk religious stories are easy. What`s not easy is convincing those people who believe in those stories otherwise. Didn`t you just see this guy bring up the boat again after Joe made all those points? I have argued with religious people over the years and the only thing I learned is don`t waste your breath. These people have been mind raped by religion so thoroughly since childhood, there is nothing you can say or do to make them see the truth. That stories are just stories.
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 12:46 am
    I heard this story before. From the Babylonians.
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    mkh515 Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 1:00 am
    To the people that believe the "Noah`s Ark" story, or any part of the Bible, or any organized religion for that matter, good for you. If what you believe gets you through the day, and helps you sleep at night, more power to you. But just because someone else doesn`t believe like you, that doesn`t give you the right to attack them. But it`s a two-way street. If you don`t believe this stuff, why attack someone who does believe it? You know you`re not going to change their minds. Live and let live, I say. If the rest of the world lived by that, there would be a lot less problems in the world.

    On topic: Joe made some very good points. You can tell he`s not just denying it without reason. He`s applying logic, and he knows what he`s talking about.
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    Inter237 Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 1:06 am
    I think I`ll sit this one out.
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    DomTheDaring Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 1:08 am
    Hahaha! Religion. It`s so cute.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 18, 2010 at 1:10 am
    I`m a Christian, but I agree that to take the story of Noah literally is just not logical.

    The old testament is NOT to be taken at face value. That`s just my opinion.
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    DomTheDaring Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 1:15 am
    Also, Boredhero78 needs to learn how to spell. Grammar matters, my dear sir. Please take the time to spell check. (Retard.)
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    DomTheDaring Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 1:21 am
    Furthermore, Boredhero78: the "scientific world" that you claim to pay attention to consists of more than just the Zoo Books you used to get as a kid. Just saying.
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    Crucible Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 1:23 am
    The story of a global flood is actually a pretty common story in lots of cultures across the world, from the Americas to The Middle East and Far East and everywhere in between. It`s a peculiar phenomenon
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    marcus2 Male 13-17
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    December 18, 2010 at 2:18 am
    that wasnt funny.
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    Tisjokar Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 2:43 am
    That comedian is pretty smart is you listen to what he said at the end
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    Zagger Male 30-39
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    December 18, 2010 at 2:46 am
    Does anyone actually believe that Noah`s Ark was real? I`m not religious, but I can, to some degree, understand that stupid people believe that god exists. But Noah`s Ark. Come on!!! That`s just too stupid.
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    sgibson12 Male 30-39
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    December 18, 2010 at 3:54 am
    So he doesn`t want to see what they found in the mountains of Ararat. Sounds closed minded to me.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2010 at 4:04 am
    If there was a world wide flood all the water that we drink would be brackish.
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    PierreJeanFR Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2010 at 4:05 am
    no debate is posible with fanatics like saying to a zombie that there`s other food than brains.
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    lumie Female 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 4:12 am
    Hmm, while he makes some interesting arguments, he asks the creationist dude loads of questions but never actually waits for an answer and cuts out any times the guy gets a chance to speak. Talk about rude, not to mention biased.
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    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 5:16 am
    "Hmm, while he makes some interesting arguments, he asks the creationist dude loads of questions but never actually waits for an answer and cuts out any times the guy gets a chance to speak. Talk about rude, not to mention biased."

    When someone comes to me, takes up MY time and tries to convince me that there is evidence that supports an obviously impossible scenario: I also get like that.

    This was not a discussion between two friends; this guy came up to Rogan in a bar after a show and tried to convince Joe that he had empirical evidence that suggested validity to the Noah`s Arc parable. Then he backed away from claiming there was any direct correlation. Joe sensing weakness went on the attack:

    Much of Christianity is hijacked from religions that came before it. The boat could not have been sea worthy, nor have the capacity claimed. Etc. Etc.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    December 18, 2010 at 5:26 am
    "If there was a world wide flood all the water that we drink would be brackish."

    You drink water? Like, from the toilet??


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    ryanroehrig9 Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 7:08 am
    This guy is what we call uneducated. If he knew the actual story of the ark he would know that God did not specify that he took all animals only the ones God told him to put. SO to say that millions were on it is silly. We may have heard that if he let the man talk but we would never know.
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    Samsquanch Male 30-39
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    December 18, 2010 at 7:13 am
    There was an ancient Sumerian story that was identical to the story of Noe. It`s likely that there may have been a localized flood along the Euphrates, which the Sumerians brought to mythology, and when the Hebrews settled in the area, they believed the tablets were a message from God, and they incorporated it into their own mythology.
    There was a great flood along the Euphrates in about 2900BC, which did kill many people, and did wipe out many settlements.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 18, 2010 at 7:21 am

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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2010 at 7:24 am
    There are two types of religious people. Those who are smart but have been brainwashed since the day they were born. These folks know, somewhere way in the back of their minds, that the whole thing is BS. But the brain washing tells them that if they question it, they will go to Hell. they aren`t dumb people, just scared. These are the people we try to save.

    Then you have the religious nut jobs who believe it. Folks who, in their tiny little pea brains, can some how pull of the math involved to fit hundreds of millions of species onto a single boat. These people are so lost that they will argue the stupidest point.

    In the video, Joe buries every single point. The guy`s response is to talk about the evidence of the boat. He`s just to dumb to wrap his brain around the argument that it`s not possible and clings onto the fact that they found a boat on a mountain.

    For folks like this...there is no hope.
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    Boredhero78 Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 7:42 am
    @Dom. Really man? Your going to take the time out of your evening to call me on my grammer on a bullpoo website in an argument between two strangers.I could honeslty care less about spelling on here. This comment section isn`t a term paper. The internet is the wrong place for you to be son if this kinda thing bothers you. I thought I was dorky for embellishing these arguments but you sir take the cake. Listen, you guys look at (we`ll say the Bible) like it`s supposed to read like a high school science text book for it to matter. I sugguest actually reading it and then come to your conclusions. Having an understanding of Science and thinking there is no reason for a God is like reading a blue print, understanding it, and then coming to a conclusion that there no one who needs to forge the steel- that it`ll just happen.
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    s0rd3dvis1on Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 7:57 am
    When I think of the core beliefs of religous people love, strength co-operation and sensible moral values. The noah`s ark lover seems like a cancer
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 18, 2010 at 8:11 am
    "If there was a world wide flood all the water that we drink would be brackish."

    Yeah, because rocks and soil have NO filtering attributes whatsoever.

    Also, there are no water filtration plants in your town. All water that comes out of your tap is just naturally clear.
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    Axejst Male 30-39
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    December 18, 2010 at 8:51 am
    Joe deserves major flippin` props for remaining calm.
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    kairobert Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 9:04 am
    ""If there was a world wide flood all the water that we drink would be brackish."

    Yeah, because rocks and soil have NO filtering attributes whatsoever.

    Also, there are no water filtration plants in your town. All water that comes out of your tap is just naturally clear. "

    I hope you are not arguing for creationism and the validity of other myths.
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    Creabhain Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2010 at 9:07 am
    @Angillian "Something not mentioned - a 515ft wooden boat cannot be seaworthy. It would sink in a perfectly calm enclosed pool."

    I don`t believe the ark story. I am curious as to the science behind the above statement. If I understand you correctly you are claiming that a wooden boat of that size cannot be seaworthy. No matter how it is built or what design is used? Really?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    December 18, 2010 at 9:17 am
    vv naw @kairobert, he`s pointing out yet another half-brained posting from @madest.
    @madest, you do know thjat most `dry land` today was once underwater, eh? Joe even touches on this in the video. You do know that RAIN isn`t brackish, and that it falls all over the land? And that there ARE large areas of salty land (like Saskatchewan for example, lolz!) from once being underwater?

    Please limit your counter arguements to ones that actually make MORE sense than that Arc guys`, m-kay? thx!
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2010 at 9:30 am
    Every few years someone claims to have found the remains of a boat on Mt. Ararat. This has been going on since I was a little kid. Forty years on, and it never turns out to be anything except lies.
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    Samsquanch Male 30-39
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    December 18, 2010 at 9:53 am
    There are two types of religious people. Those who are smart but have been brainwashed since the day they were born.

    Huh...I`m religious, but I fall into neither of these categories. I believe in God, and I believe that Jesus was a great spiritual leader, and a rebel against the Roman and Jewish authorities of the time, and started a movement that changed the face of history.
    I believe in a power higher than our own, and that our death isn`t the end of our existence, but a transference into another consciousness either comprehensible, or incomprehensible to us today.

    But, I`m not above questioning the stories of the Bible. All myths do have an origin, but they`re just that...myths. Stories handed down orally for centuries before they were written down in an obscure language, and translated hundreds of times.

    Does that make me "brainwashed" or a "religious nut"?
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    CinematicD Female 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 10:20 am
    umm samsquanch, we can also argue if brainwashed people know they`re brainwashed
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    jbwhite Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 11:20 am
    Go Rogan! Haha... religion

    This is an awesome post.
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    darkgear6 Male 70 & Over
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    December 18, 2010 at 11:30 am
    Joe is my fave psychonaut, and lol at the tl;dr religugus
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    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    December 18, 2010 at 11:42 am
    I found evidence of a boat in my back yard. Is it Noah`s ark, or the kayak I bought that`s only touched water when it rains.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2010 at 11:53 am
    Samsquanch, that would make you "Spiritual". Not "religious". If you do believe the stories of the Bible and follow it`s teachings, then you fit into one of my two categories. Only you know for sure which one you are in...
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    December 18, 2010 at 12:44 pm
    Wow, a religious post without trolling! what happened iab, you used to be cool!
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2010 at 3:40 pm
    This guy is what we call uneducated.

    I`m sure you do, but that only indicates anything about you.

    If he knew the actual story of the ark he would know that God did not specify that he took all animals only the ones God told him to put. SO to say that millions were on it is silly.

    You are uneducated about your own religion, as well as so many other things.

    Genesis 7:1-3
    And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.

    Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

    Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.

    So that`s *every* beast.

    You`re also arguing that all the other animals survived the flood without the ark...so what
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 3:58 pm
    It would have been better if it was more... audible.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2010 at 4:03 pm
    Bah, cut off again:

    You`re also arguing that all the other animals survived the flood without the ark...so what was the point of the ark?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2010 at 4:04 pm
    I don`t believe the ark story. I am curious as to the science behind the above statement. If I understand you correctly you are claiming that a wooden boat of that size cannot be seaworthy. No matter how it is built or what design is used? Really?

    Well...a wooden boat *made from a single piece of wood that size* might be seaworthy, but you`re never going to find a solid tree 515ft tall and a hundred feet wide. Not on Earth, anyway.

    Wood bends. Wooden ships might get up to about 200ft, but it`s very hard to know if they were all wood. The limit might be much lower than 200ft. You can go further if you use metal nails to join the wood and further still if you use metal bands to hold the wood together and have engines constantly pumping out the water leaking in, but even then you can`t go much over 300 ft and not at sea. Wood simply flexes too much.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    December 18, 2010 at 4:17 pm
    Does that make me "brainwashed" or a "religious nut"?
    @Samsquanch I think that makes you a Deist, like me! lolz, eh?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
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    1gr8slice Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2010 at 4:50 pm
    Joe Rogan managed to click up a few notches in my book...still dislike the way he calls fights though. I NEVER want to hear him say a dude got "mounted" by another dude (with pride) again.
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    Creabhain Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2010 at 5:39 pm
    @Angilion I think it woild be reasonable to call a boat "made from wood", even though nails were used. Your comments about wood flexing and the leaking issue suggests you are not a expert in this area. All wooden boats leak at least a little. Bailing or pumping manually or with a motor are the norm. Wood swells when wet improving the joints. Caulking helps. etc. Just saying.
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    Creabhain Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2010 at 5:42 pm
    I agree that a wooden boat over 500 feet is impractical. I would not say impossible. I also would not expect it to last 40 days with just one family for a crew. :^)
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    RecycleElf Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 5:42 pm
    Oh Rogan, you so crazy ;P
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    Sinclair Male 30-39
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    December 18, 2010 at 6:20 pm
    you gotta be a total douche to actually believe the bible
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    Schr0dinger Male 50-59
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    December 18, 2010 at 7:20 pm
    He goes over (and over) the same well worn ground as so many, many, many others. There was no new take on anything and its all been said better by far smarter people. But really, his bit wasnt funny. It just was not "funny" at all.
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 9:12 pm
    will someone please do the math and figure out how big of a boat you`d need to fit two of every species?
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    Schr0dinger Male 50-59
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    December 18, 2010 at 9:31 pm
    It says in the Bible the exact size of the arc. Genesis 6:15 - 135 meters long (300 cubits), 22.5 meters wide (50 cubits), and 13.5 meters high (30 cubits). That`s 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high! It could have been slightly larger.
    (A cubit was the length of a man`s arm from fingertips to elbow)

    Still not big enough? You are correct sir. But the same people that will tell you that God put dinosaur bones in the ground to "test mans faith" will tell you that God could also make the ark larger on the inside than it was on the outside.
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    jasonlowe Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 9:58 pm
    Why does it seem like the Christians are always the ones portrayed as crazy? Why doesn`t Joe rant about how insane Hindu seems? Or Islam? Does he fear retaliation? I believe in God, but I`m no sheep. It really pisses me off that I`m supposed to absolutely accept everyone else for who they are (and I do), but I sit here quietly day after day reading the insults and hurtful words of everyone else. Not all of us are crazy. I have my doubts about the Bible and faith, but I came to my beliefs after years of rational thought. It`s just what makes sense to me. It sucks that my "brothers and sisters" have been such idiots and really misrepresented the God that I believe in. Sorry for the rant. Carry on.
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 11:23 pm
    @nubblins
    and how long it would take to then spread each of them out to the correct continents


    and while we`re at it, how long it would take a snail from north america to reach noah
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    dielaughing Female 13-17
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    December 19, 2010 at 12:11 am
    I don`t think he should be so harsh because people just want answers and reason to why were here. I mean it would be nice to have some man in the sky helping you out, looking over you but really...a man in the sky? Should that be your first WTF?
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    dblond369 Female 18-29
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    December 19, 2010 at 12:12 am
    Joe Rogan is soooooo cracked-out
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    lingh0e Male 30-39
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    December 19, 2010 at 12:35 am
    @samsquanch - yes, it makes you a brainwashed religious nut... simply because you still identify yourself as religious. It IS possible to rationally remain open to concepts such as the existence of a higher power and a state of being beyond this one without giving ANY credence to anything written in the bible. Strict theists in today`s society ARE blindly ignorant people. Be spiritual, sure, but don`t subscribe to absurd stories and parables as as way of life... that`s not how they were intended.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    December 19, 2010 at 12:43 am
    Why does it seem like the Christians are always the ones portrayed as crazy? Why doesn`t Joe rant about how insane Hindu seems? Or Islam? Does he fear retaliation?
    Ah yes, this a criticism that is often wheeled out against those who point out how silly biblical literalism is. They won`t pick on the Muslims, cause the muslims have teeth! Poor Christians, stop picking on us!

    Bullwank.

    You ask why Joe Rogan (and others) pick on Christianity as a subject. America is overwhelmingly Christian as a country. Sure, there are Hindus and Muslims in America, but let`s not get silly here. America is a Christian nation (as we`re often told). Joe Rogan is an American comedian, performing for an American audience in a comedy club somewhere in America, his act being showcased on an American website called I-am-bored.com.
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    pigsnout5 Female 18-29
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    December 19, 2010 at 1:31 am
    joe makes a good point about how we can still over decipher 3/4 of the ancient hebrew text. plus the fact that this story was told orally for many many plus years, so of course it got botched here and there.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 19, 2010 at 4:20 am
    "You ask why Joe Rogan (and others) pick on Christianity as a subject."

    Because someone who makes fun of Muslims and Hindus like this would likely get less of a response. making fun of any other religion makes people nervous for some reason, like they are laughing at someone picking on the retarded kid in high school, it`s funny, but somehow they feel bad.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 19, 2010 at 4:32 am
    Good God I seriously screwed the hell out of the grammar in that post. You guys get it though.

    /Grammar Nazi shield.
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    Samsquanch Male 30-39
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    December 19, 2010 at 5:00 am
    Actually, 5Cats, I`m a panentheist more than I am a Deist. Deists still believe that some entity, of superpowerful, and supernatural origins created the natural world. Panentheists believe that this "all powerful entity" is the universe, which exists at a state of being far beyond our comprehension.
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    Schr0dinger Male 50-59
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    December 19, 2010 at 5:08 am
    Yes, yes. All very good points made here.

    But this guy still isnt funny.
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    Samsquanch Male 30-39
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    December 19, 2010 at 5:28 am
    FTR, I don`t believe the whole truth of the stories presented in the Bible. It`s likely there is some grain of truth within them (every legend and myth has some truth behind it...they recently discovered Minos, and the labyrinths beneath, and Troy, etc, etc).
    One folly of people (both Christians and atheists) is they place 21st century sensibilities to civilizations that existed thousands of years ago. We didn`t have watches back then, we didn`t have computers. For most people, the "world" was only as big as they were willing to travel. For a localized catastrophe, it would seem as a cataclysmic event that destroyed the world.
    People were also pretty easy to fool back then, because most people were uneducated goat herders.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 7:09 am
    It says in the Bible the exact size of the arc. Genesis 6:15 - 135 meters long (300 cubits), 22.5 meters wide (50 cubits), and 13.5 meters high (30 cubits). That`s 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high! It could have been slightly larger.
    (A cubit was the length of a man`s arm from fingertips to elbow)

    Nice idea, but wrong. It says that in the *translation and interpretation* of the bible that you`re looking at.

    i) Ot doesn`t state `cubit`, because `cubit` isn`t a Hebrew word.

    ii) Even if it did, there are a dozen different lengths of cubit known to have existed, from 17 inches to 4 feet. Maybe there were others that have been forgotten.

    iii) Much of the ancient Hebrew has been lost and it was written in an obscure way anyway.

    There`s no way to be sure what the numbers actually were or what the units actually were.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 7:14 am
    @Angilion I think it woild be reasonable to call a boat "made from wood", even though nails were used. Your comments about wood flexing and the leaking issue suggests you are not a expert in this area. All wooden boats leak at least a little. Bailing or pumping manually or with a motor are the norm. Wood swells when wet improving the joints. Caulking helps. etc. Just saying.

    Just making a fool of yourself.

    Yes, wooden boats leak. That was my point, you fool.

    So...where did Noah get the pumping motor from? A time machine? Bear in mind that a 300ft boat *on a calm lake* and made from wood heavily reinforced with steel nails, steel bands and steel plates, still required constant pumping by a couple of very powerful motorised pumps.

    Where would Noah have got metal nails from? Maybe bronze, depending on what date you use, but that`s not as good as steel and it would have been far too expensive for a farmer even if it was avail
  83. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 7:17 am
    I agree that a wooden boat over 500 feet is impractical. I would not say impossible. I also would not expect it to last 40 days with just one family for a crew. :^)

    Oh, you could build one. As long as you never put it in water even if it was empty and the water was perfectly calm. Which makes it irrelevant to this story and not actually a boat at all. It would be a boat-shaped building.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 7:23 am
    will someone please do the math and figure out how big of a boat you`d need to fit two of every species?

    It wasn`t two - that`s a misconception because of the phrase translated as "the male and his female". In pairs, yes, but not just one pair of each.

    You don`t just need space for the animals.

    You also need space for all the land plants, as they wouldn`t be able to survive 40 days of flooding.

    You also need landing space for all flying creatures because they can`t fly continuously for 40 days without food.

    You also need food for all of the animals for 40 days.

    You also need water for all of the animals for 40 days.

    You also need exercise space for all of the animals for 40 days.

    You also need space to deal with all the dung and urine for 40 days. Have you seen how much an elephant poos in 40 days?

    You also need space for the many thousands of crew needed to feed and muck out t
  85. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 7:28 am
    Gah, cut off early as usual.

    ...feed, water and muck out the animals.

    A sizable island wouldn`t be big enough, let alone a boat.

    Maybe a boat 10 miles long with a crew of 10,000 or so would be enough. Maybe.

    Actually, you`d probably need facilities for all the fish, too. I doubt if they`d survive such a radical change in their environment.

    Maybe a boat 50 miles long. Maybe.

    Then you get to the YECs and their insanity that requires 2-14 of *every animal that has ever existed on the planet*.

    Maybe a boat the size of England. Maybe.

    It`s just plain silly.
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    kingpong Male 18-29
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    December 19, 2010 at 8:13 am
    Angillion I`m not convinced of your ark-making skills. Your arguments really only apply to boats designed for travel. The ark would have probably been more like a raft. Heyerdahl`s Kon-Tiki lasted over 100 days on the Pacific in rough seas. Had it been a boat it probably would have been double or triple hulled, greatly reducing the need for constant bailing, especially over a relatively short period of time for a boat. It would never be able to hold all of the animals, correct, but a 500 ft raft or boat wouldn`t be all that difficult to make. It wouldn`t need to travel or anything so there wouldn`t be openings for oars either. The story is definitely retarded but a 500 ft wooden boat is possible.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 19, 2010 at 9:27 am
    hey gang... mayb God did a miracle and made them all fit into a little boat with room to spare. And also made food for a day last 40 days, He`s done that one before.

    Why go out of your way to prove it can`t be done?

    It`s Magic... get with the program!
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    Creabhain Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 11:16 am
    "Just making a fool of yourself.
    Yes, wooden boats leak. That was my point, you fool."

    Temper temper. There is no need for name calling. Relax. It`s only a debate not a personal attack.

    My point was that leaks are normal and are not a problem. EVERY wooden boat leaks. They still work just fine. Ask any sailor.
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    Creabhain Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 11:21 am
    "So...where did Noah get the pumping motor from? A time machine? Bear in mind that a 300ft boat *on a calm lake* and made from wood heavily reinforced with steel nails, steel bands and steel plates, still required constant pumping by a couple of very powerful motorised pumps."

    Sorry but no. Wooden boats do not require constant puming. One man with a hand bailer or two men working a manual pump can remove significant amounts of water. The seepage in a typical wooden constructed boat is NOT significant. It is minor.

    I grew up in a fishing community. We build wooden boats, we sail them, we fish in them. I know what i`m talking about. My forefathers passed the knowledge on.
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    Creabhain Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 11:28 am
    "Where would Noah have got metal nails from? Maybe bronze, depending on what date you use, but that`s not as good as steel and it would have been far too expensive for a farmer even if it was avail"

    Metal nails have been available since the bronze age. I have a bronze nail in my home that I found on a dive off the coast of Cork. They were well suited to boat building. Steel is not.

    Your statment that a 500 plus foot boat is not possible / unseaworthy is simply nonsense.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    December 19, 2010 at 11:30 am
    God could also make the ark larger on the inside than it was on the outside.
    I mentioned the Aztecs before; Quetzaloatl lived in a hut that was larger on the inside than it was on the outside, and it`s walls were the four seasons... funny how much great mythologies have in common, eh? One could NOT say that Jews and Aztecs had any contact, esp since they`re 2000 years apart in time.
    Baba Yaga`s hut was bigger inside too.

    However: if we just say "Oh, God made a miracle" it`s hardly `logical` anymore. I pointed out to a creationist (after hearing the dino-bones arguement) that God could have created the Earth 5 minutes ago, and Jesus is just a memory implanted in our newly created brains. Lolz!

    Panentheism works for me too @Samsqaunch.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 11:42 am
    read "Epic of Gilgamesh"
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 11:47 am
    Parable
    (noun)
    1. short allegory to teach a moral
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 12:07 pm
    I grew up in a fishing community. We build wooden boats, we sail them, we fish in them. I know what i`m talking about. My forefathers passed the knowledge on.

    How large is the biggest boat you have that`s built with at best early bronze age and quite possible stone age materials?

    In fact, how large is the largest semi-wooden boat you have?

    It`s nowhere near 500ft, is it? 100ft?

    So you`re basing your analysis on something that isn`t relevant.

    The bigger the wooden boat, the more it leaks. 300ft semi-wooden boats reinforced with materials that Noah could not possibly have had did require constant machine pumping. This is not speculation based on the idea that if you can build something at one size you must be able to build it at any size with no more problems. It`s what actually happens with large semi-wooden boats that actually existed.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 12:10 pm
    The story is definitely retarded but a 500 ft wooden boat is possible.

    A 500ft raft might be. That`s a good point. A 500ft boat simply isn`t, even if it`s only mostly wood.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 12:19 pm
    Metal nails have been available since the bronze age.

    You didn`t read the text you replied to. Here are the relevant bits:

    Maybe bronze, depending on what date you use

    far too expensive for a farmer even if it was available

    What date do you use for the flood? Why?
    What date do you use for the start of the bronze age? Why?

    Why do you assume that Noah was rich enough to be able to afford large amounts of bronze even if it did exist at the time?

    They were well suited to boat building. Steel is not.

    Which is why bronze is extensively used for boat building and steel isn`t...no, wait, that`s completely the opposite of what`s true.

    Your statment that a 500 plus foot boat is not possible / unseaworthy is simply nonsense.

    A statement I never made.

    A 500ft *wooden* boat is not possible, even with modern metal reinforcement
  97. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 12:24 pm
    Maybe the ark was a spaceship, eden was another planet and all the creatures were stored in the form of records of the DNA, to be remade on Earth. Over time, the stories got mixed together and the non-human crew of the ship were mistakenly thought to be Noah and his family.

    Makes more sense than the traditional interpretation.

    Of course, anyone who belives the ark story to be literally true must also be in favour of incest. How else could all humans be descended from the only survivors of the flood, Noah and his immediate family?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 12:26 pm
    Thinking about it a bit more, I think a 500ft raft wouldn`t be seaworthy either. It might float on a calm surface, but I think it would break up in anything else.
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    Creabhain Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 1:05 pm
    @Angilion I am only debating whether it is possible to build a wooden boat over 500 feet long that is sea worthy. You keep bringing the ark story up. My OP stated clearly that I did not believe the ark story.

    Wooden boats are not typically made using steel nails. We use copper alloys or galvanized nails at a pinch. Your sad obsession with "mostly wood" verses wooden built boats is an effort at misdirection.

    You dismiss my experience in boat building as being irrelevant yet you have not claimed ANY expertise in this area. You have an opinion and nothing to back it up.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 2:32 pm
    You dismiss my experience in boat building as being irrelevant yet you have not claimed ANY expertise in this area. You have an opinion and nothing to back it up.

    Apart from what actually happens when large (>~250ft) mostly wooden boats are built.

    You have no experience in building wooden or mostly wooden boats 500 feet long. No-one has. You are assuming that your experience with much smaller boats means that boat sized can be increased a great deal without any increase in problems. That`s not true.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 2:34 pm
    Wooden boats are not typically made using steel nails. We use copper alloys or galvanized nails at a pinch. Your sad obsession with "mostly wood" verses wooden built boats is an effort at misdirection.

    The materials used are a misdirection when considering if a boat of a certain size can be made of a certain material...right, yes, of course it is.
  102. Profile photo of Creabhain
    Creabhain Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 2:53 pm
    "The materials used are a misdirection when considering if a boat of a certain size can be made of a certain material...right, yes, of course it is."

    It`s perfectly simple. Any reasonable person considers a thing to be made from wood even if small amounts of other materials are used such as glue, nails, etc. Wooden clothes pegs often contain a metal spring but are described as wooden to distinguish them from the plastic kind.

    I see no point in continuing this debate but don`t let that stop you. :^)
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    December 19, 2010 at 6:54 pm
    "hey gang... mayb God did a miracle and made them all fit into a little boat with room to spare. And also made food for a day last 40 days, He`s done that one before.

    Why go out of your way to prove it can`t be done?

    It`s Magic... get with the program!"

    thank you gerry1of1...thank you...
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 10:39 pm
    "Your sad obsession with "mostly wood" verses wooden built boats is an effort at misdirection."
    I take it your college engineering class never had the concrete boat discussion and experiments...

    "...don`t believe the whole truth of the stories presented in the Bible...."
    "If any part of a man`s testimony is found to be untrue, the whole of his testimony is to be discarded."
    So: "In the beginning..." On which day, the sixth or the seventh, did he rest? If you know the answer, look to see if this was ever changed.
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
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    December 19, 2010 at 10:52 pm
    "Angillion I`m not convinced of your ark-making skills. Your arguments really only apply to boats designed for travel."
    Me-effing dammit!!! You people are going in the wrong direction.
    You are worried about the size of a boat.
    "How many species would there be in an area the size a family would feel safe traveling and gathering?"

    More unbelievable is: "Why/how could an entire world flood in 41 days?"
    If you think into how large someone of the bronze age thought the world was, knowing that people rarely traveled more than 20 miles from the spot on which they were born, kinda shrinks the scale of the probable event that the story is probably based.

    Dude A: "I`ll tell you the story of the cracked-pot who built a boat on a hill at just the right time to survive a tidal wave."
    Dude B: "A tidal wave? Not dramatic enough..."
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    VastHerd Male 18-29
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    December 20, 2010 at 1:17 pm
    joe rogan is my hero. every video i`ve seen of him he is handing someone their own ass.
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    BootneckBaz Male 30-39
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    January 25, 2011 at 2:02 pm
    Collegebound. Why are you going to college to learn? Whats the whole point if magic is the answer?
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    Zombiemike Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2011 at 12:38 am
    I don`t know why people take comedy acts as theologically sound arguments. I mean, seriously, anyone can take a bible verse and sprinkle it with sarcasm. But then people try to take that to an actual anti-religious debate like it`s some sort of credible source.

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