Interpol Called for Arrest of WikiLeaks Founder

Submitted by: fancylad 6 years ago
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/02/world/europe/02assange.html

Julian Assange is wanted by the law for leaking classified government documents? No. Something a lot more rapey.
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Male 5,413
I don`t get it.
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Male 838
Oh. And isn`t it just a wee bit fishy that something as defaming as sexual misconduct charges were filed on the guy who started dropping big secrets?
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Male 838
Here`s my problem with this whole thing... "Hackers" keep attacking the servers that host wikileaks... I have a curiosity about that. My main concern is that most of the hackers I know have this thing about freedom of information... They`d be all for something like Wikileaks... So, who`s hacking them? I mean, we all know some certain governments and businesses that want them offline... you don`t think they`d... you know... hack them... right? That`d be, you know... illegal and stuff.
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Male 2,592
the whole world is stupid and i`m gonna just continue keeping to myself. don`t care about the leaks and don`t care that they`re trying to catch him. just don`t care.
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Male 15,832
[quote]If you do target civilians, torture and execute prisoners...[/quote]
We spend $billions on GPS and laser-guided weapons in order to avoid civilian casualties. Why else would we use a $500,000 laser-guided bomb to take out one house when we could just level the entire block with $25,000 worth of dumb gravity bombs? No other country in the history of warfare has done more to reduce civilian casualties -- even at the expense of our own troops` safety -- than the USA.

The only way you can accuse us of torture is to change the definition of the word to fit your own anti-American agenda. And we don`t execute prisoners, period.

Here`s a question for you. What do you call a bunch of little pussies who get down on their knees to suck Nazi dick as soon as they walk across your border?
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Male 1,360
If you do target civilians, torture and execute prisoners, use depleted uranium ammunition, phosphorus shells and you wear a USA uniform, what does that make you? A hero?
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Male 3,076
hmm how strange a man tries to uncover big secrets about military operation, war crimes and illegal wars and on his spare time he rapes a women and interpol want to catch him )-| smells like a conspiracy
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Male 15,832
[quote]"which by the way is in direct violation of the Geneva Accords that the USA signed.
...which, by the way, al Qaeda has NOT signed"
damn, neither have I, does that mean I can be tortured?[/quote]
If you make war against the USA, and you fight out of uniform (war crime), and you deliberately target civilians (war crime), and you torture and execute prisoners (war crime), and you strap suicide belts onto retarded children (war crime), and if we think you have information about future terrorist attacks that might result in the deaths of innocent civilians, then you won`t be tortured but you might be water boarded.
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Male 185
Character defamation, the oldest trick in the book. Next they will say he is anti-Semitic. If that doesn`t work, then his car `goes off the road`.
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Male 6,694
Time to bring out the Special Forces.
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Female 212
Oh! It`s for sex . . . I thought they were PO`ed about some national secret or other.
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Female 83
i hate this guy. as soon as he`s in custody and the US finds out his coordinates, i hope they take him out.
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Male 338
"which by the way is in direct violation of the Geneva Accords that the USA signed.

...which, by the way, al Qaeda has NOT signed"

damn, neither have I, does that mean I can be tortured? - I need to go to the Hague brb.
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Male 2,424
My bet: Julians car skids off the road somewhere in the alps, the car explodes and there are no witnesses. And probably not because he po`d America, but because he po`d China, Russia, Iran, even the Saudi`s (to name a few).
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Male 10,845
[quote]Cajun, go ahead and believe whatever makes you feel good about yourself.[/quote]

Tu quoque my friend!

hehe
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Male 886
"Yay for the logical fallacy"
"YAY, for the phallic logic, you stupid dildo."


Okay, that has me chuckling. Perhaps it`s that I just hear it all being said by Southpark characters in my head when I read it:P
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Male 886
I read this today. The U.S. is looking into their legal options if he is picked up.

I don`t quite know how that would work with him not being a U.S. citizen.

In regards to these particular charges, there doesn`t seem to be much in the way of details that I`ve seen.
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Male 120
um, waterboarding, like, the sport? like with boats and stuff? i would answer all kinds of questions to get to be able to do that....
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Male 15,832
Cajun, go ahead and believe whatever makes you feel good about yourself. Just be thankful that there are better men than you who are willing to do the things you don`t have the guts to do to keep you safe at night.
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Male 240
What I`m looking forward to is the upcoming dissemination of banking records. When people realize the depths of banking fraud that has been covered up, the doody will hit the fan. Of course, that is if they manage to obtain the relevant info. It`s also dependent on Wikileaks remaining open for business, as they seem to be the target of every Gov hacker on Earth...

Time will tell....
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Male 7,378
The governments job is done. Turn the anger of the masses onto the messenger not the message.
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Male 10,845
[quote">
1. Torture does not produce reliable intelligence.
2. Water boarding DOES produce reliable intelligence.
3. Therefore water boarding is not torture.
[/quote">

I completely disagree with your third assertion:
1)Fallacy of accident
2)Meet Mancow Muller

Now perhaps a more proper assertion is that torture in general does not produce reliable intelligence. As for the CIA`s program results can be rather dubious.
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Male 185
One thing left out of this conversation:
wikileaks/julian DID work/attempt to work with gov officials and news orgs to minimize immediate harm. I suspect there were areas of disagreement between agencies. Overall, I`m glad for wikileaks. Most of what I`ve come across from this hasn`t been very surprising, except the gossipy stuff. the guvmint and big corporations need held accountable, and the majority of news agencies have NOT been doing a proper job.
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Male 12,365
I read an interesting article arguing that Wikileaks is used by the authorities to obscure things by flooding leaks of trivial stuff and whippig up hysteria about it, thereby diverting attention away from anything important.

Has Wikileaks run out of secrets?

This on-off-on accusation saga could be more of the same.
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Male 10,845
Found this from the Dear Blank Please Blank website:

Dear Wikileaks:

Sshhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sincerely,
The World
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Male 15,832
[quote]Trolling is clearly a dieing artform...[/quote]
Apparently so is spelling.
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Male 15,832
[quote]so you mean that thing where we stack those dead bodies up naked and take pictures of them doing gay stuff?[/quote]
I have no idea what you`re talking about. We never did anything like that. If you`re referring to prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, (which involved LIVE bodies) that wasn`t part of the enhanced interrogation program. That was a couple of trailer-trash national guardsmen who were disobeying orders, and they were severely punished for it. Also, those prisoners were common criminals, not terrorists. One of them had raped a child.
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Male 315
Hah, divulge national secrets and apparently you`re ok. But sexually assault some Swedish chick and suddenly Interpol is all over your @ss.
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Male 3,745
"the FACT is, we got more actionable intelligence from enhanced interrogation of captured al Qaeda prisoners than from all other intelligence sources COMBINED. "

so you mean that thing where we stack those dead bodies up naked and take pictures of them doing gay stuff?

"Are you saying that you feel sorry for the guy who planned 9/11 and beheaded Daniel Pearl?"

i know i do :|
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Male 1,299
Please don`t feed thr Trolls.

I`m tired of having to clean up their poop.

Let them be and they go away on their own.
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Male 678
That is what im getting at. Those members of Al Qaeda were specific people with specific knowledge. But what about the people and reporters that are being held as terrorists and treated as such even though they have no particular knowledge. besides this is getting off point. I like knowing the truth it helps me make educated decisions and take the action that best suits me and my family. you`d have to blind deaf and dumb to think that our governments tell us "all". Assange is doing what most arm chair warriors dream of doing. I support him and his actions. Damn the government for being underhanded, untrustworthy and deadly protective of its mistakes. I`m a free man and i vote that give me the right to know the truth whether they think i can handle it or not.

And for the record, i feel sorry as sorry for any 1st degree murderer or terrorist as i do for the lamb that sits on my table next to the potatoes every Sunday.
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Male 505
"Also, please don`t feed the troll you guys, he goes away on his own."

I know =[ Sorry.
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Male 604
Swedish Prosecutor Says Assange Not Wanted

This was back in august, after the charges surfaced once, then dropped, then he wasn`t wanted, then he was, suddenly interpol is involved over potentially a broken condom. Like I said before, the charges are a ploy. The "victims" coerced into giving their testimonies.

Also, please don`t feed the troll you guys, he goes away on his own.
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Male 505
Capitalising "fact" doesn`t make it a valid source. "enhanced interrogation" could do with some clarification aswell.
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Male 15,832
SaltyVarnish, the FACT is, we got more actionable intelligence from enhanced interrogation of captured al Qaeda prisoners than from all other intelligence sources COMBINED.

Are you saying that you feel sorry for the guy who planned 9/11 and beheaded Daniel Pearl?

(I`d post a link the video of it here, but it`s a little too graphic for the youngsters. You can find it if you forgot.)
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Male 505
Trolling is clearly a dieing artform...
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Male 15,832
YAY, for the phallic logic, you stupid dildo.
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Male 505
Yay for the logical fallacy old ollie!
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Male 678
@oldollie

torture is torture! If you find it unbearable, you`ll say or do anything to get it to stop. therefore all kinds of torture are unreliable. unless you have previous knowledge that a specific person has specific information. then a smart "interrogator" can sift through the poo and pick out the peanuts of truth.
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Male 15,832
[quote]which by the way is in direct violation of the Geneva Accords that the USA signed.[/quote]
...which, by the way, al Qaeda has NOT signed, so, therefore, it does not apply to them nor to anyone giving them aid and comfort.

Also, the USA does not torture. Here`s proof; see if you can follow the logic.

1. Torture does not produce reliable intelligence.
2. Water boarding DOES produce reliable intelligence.
3. Therefore water boarding is not torture.

I assume you agree with the first statement. The second statement is indisputable fact. The third statement is an inarguable consequence of the first two statements.
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Male 1,548
@BrimstoneOne
What a hypocrisy coming from Canada who was the US`s lapdog for the entire Cold War. Nearly all those "crimes" you are referring to, your country had more than a part to play in. True, the US, being the leader of the pack, took all the heat for it, but all NATO nations were involved in the same activities. These same leaks that make the US look bad also show that we shouldered the burden of blame that Canada, Britain, France, and West Germany were equally at fault. This is why INTERPOL is after the guy, because the rest of the western world doesn`t want the truth to be shown that they are just as much to blame as the America they criticize without recourse.

The only thing bad the leaks so far appear to say about the United States is that our diplomats are gossiping 16 year-old girls. All the scandalous data is about other countries that the US has contact with.
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Male 2,229
Volsunga, that show sucks balls, it`s over the top melodrama for idiots
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Male 678
You know what this reminds me of. In a prison (which we are in...of sorts) if you bad mouth or rat on an officer to the public or warden you get a baton up your ass or worse. this guy rated out half the worlds "officers" and they got big f-ing batons! i`d help Assange if i could.
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Male 2,229
@OldOllie: have you for one moment considered that you may be "backing the wrong horse"?

Multiple places in the world the USA are the bad guys and in friendlier places are not trusted due to the `dirty` deeds done and supported. Then there`s the death squads and the legalization by the government of torture, which by the way is in direct violation of the Geneva Accords that the USA signed.

And this is by the Pentagon and State Dept`s own admission. And yet your government dose nothing but continue these `crimes`. The United States no longer stands for liberty nor democracy, it has become what its people revile, totalitarian, corrupt, fraudulent, lying and with out trust or morals. The United States WAS a great nation, is people are friendly, but they have been lied to about what their government truly is, you have become the `evil empire` of the 21st century.

Deal with it, for no one is coming to your rescue.
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Male 678
that difficult for you OLDolllie
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Male 1,548
I don`t know why, but I found this doc from the leak extremely hilarious.
Problems with Canadian stereotyping of America with "24-like show" without that Sutherland guy.
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Male 15,832
Baalthazaq, if I could make any sense out of what you said, I`m sure I`d have a response to it.
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Male 4,547
Oldollie: Just one.

Are there ANY values you have that you won`t flip flop on as soon as it becomes inconvenient for you personally?

Freedom of the press.
Freedom of speech.
Pro life.
Pro constitution.
Pro Transparency.
Anti Big Government.

BUT NOT TODAY! You want your "small government" to reach all the way into Sweden over an Aussie journalist for publishing information valuable to the public for transparency and accountability issues. You want him killed NOT for what he has said, but for what OTHERS have said.
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Male 2,229
Yeah, this is under hand tactics to discredit and isolate the man who is `messenger`, in a bad attempt to make "make an example" of him. Petty that their efforts are all for not, since their gone after the wrong man/person.
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Male 155
She retracted her claims before and it has all flared up again since he published the Iraq War files. I guess they started paying her more
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Male 15,832
The solution to this is pretty simple.

1. We`re at war.
2. In war you kill your enemies.
3. This little turd is our enemy.

Any questions?
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Male 3,915
I`m with LemonTarte...this is just bullsh*t to shut him up....
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Male 604
PS: There IS an insurance file ;]
incase**itgoesdown
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Male 25,416
eeek...
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Male 2,402
I admire his ability to bring the truth out to the world on the douchebagerry that goes on in the world`s governments.

He`s a dead man walking though. Guarantee he`s on a vast majority of hit-lists.

You don`t cross the rich and powerful gangsters.
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Male 282
This is typical of fascist scum governments. They did the same thing to William Cooper simply because they did not like what he was saying over the radio waves. They blamed him with tax evasion. Clinton labeled him the most dangerous man on radio, but then again all one has to do is google Mena Arkansas and you will get the picture after that.
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Female 1,441
This sounds like their just trying to tarnish his image and do anything they can to get him arrested. I wouldn`t be surprised if this whole thing was made up.
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Male 591
Interesting that the news media fail to mention what Wikileaks and Julian Assange are trying to accomplish.

Their next document dump, scheduled for January, supposedly concerns a major financial institution, most likely to be Bank of America. That should be interesting, to say the least.
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Male 494
So, since pretty much all the governments hate this release, Julian Assange is an enemy of all states.
So they`re all trying to make people hate him and not go to his release in any way they possibly can.
Fake rape charges, dirty tricks, slander, etc.

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Male 494
This is the best thing that has happened to the free flow of inormation since the Internet.

NO government, liberal or conservative, fascist or communist, democracy or parliament, dictatorship or plutocracy, wants people to know what diplomacy is really like.
NO government official, conservative or liberal, communist or fascist, corrupt or not, wants people to know how dirty things that go down really are.
NO government wants people to know how much danger they are really (or really not) in.

The government had us under the impression that North Korea is an evil nuclear power under the hands of China. These cables showed me that, in fact, North Korea is an evil power that nobody, not even China, likes.

We were under the impression that Iran had a bark bigger then it`s bite. I now realize that this is not the case.
One year ago, Russia was negotiating the sale of an S-300 defense missile to Iran, but only if Iran complied with the IAEA.
One ye
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Male 604
@kingpong
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org
Why watch daily show when you can read the leaks and judge for yourself. And yes, there are things that are "news" to some.
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Male 604
This is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay outside of interpol`s typical list of crimes it prosecutes, FYI.

I don`t know if the rape charges are or aren`t legitimate (because as I`ve followed them, I`ve heard the victims story change. And it`s very easy to convict someone of rape in sweden for something that`s a lesser crime elsewhere) but they`re definitely being used by the powers that be to get this guy imprisoned. Seriously, europeans understand that this is not what Interpol does.
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Male 639
Damien, go watch last nights episode of the Daily Show. What was revealed was not news to anyone. The guys a dick and I don`t doubt the stories. I think getting Interpol is a bit extreme but I really hate this guy, because he is a big bag of doosh, not anything he did, also I hope something comes out like this about Richard Branson I seriously hate that dude.
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Male 2,841
This sounds 100% believable.
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Male 2,388
*speechless*
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Male 2
Turns out Amazon just stopped hosting the Wikileaks site. The sites down right now. Amazon doesn`t want to host the site because of this scandal.
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Male 199
Just because he has also leaked sensitive information doesn`t make RAPE any less terrible.
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Male 705
Yeah, right. Of course he`s a sex offender. It`s not at all because the government is deeply embarrased by the information leaked onto his website and don`t want it too happen again!
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Female 1,515
It`s all a conspiracy! The government is out to get him!!! Or...he actually is a jerk who did what he was accused of...and we`re all asshats...

Who knows? Seems a little blatant of the government though if they`re fabricating stuff to get him arrested...
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Male 2,796
I am on the fence about this cat. Since I am a Marine, one would think I am biased, however, I tend to think I can see outside that box. On one hand a part of me wants to protect my Government, but on the other, the stuff this guy is putting out is incredible. It spans the world and has the potential to forever change the face of global politics and business from the top down. I think the world at large needs a change, You never know, this guy could be praised as a world hero over time.

I am a firm believer that sometimes you need to sacrifice the few in order to save the many. In this case, this dangerous and damning information may put livelihoods and lives at risk now, but could save many more lives in the future.
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Male 769
If he`s in the UK, I`d gladly put him up on my sofa bed for a few weeks. These allegations might be true - they might not be. Either way, they are being used because governments want to shut him up for telling people the truth about the people in charge. If it wasn`t for the internet, he would probably have been disappeared by someone before now.
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Male 263
Party van is coming to town!
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Male 57
kittehdee29 - Eat Sh|t and die
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Male 505
"The only thing you can do is stop the information at its source by actually improving your security protocols"

Personally i`d also like it if all our goverments stopped behaving like children. Passing notes about that new kid in class. Hopefully it might make the govt show more transparancy...Ah who am i kidding!
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Female 803
@oryfoxer, what are the first two f*cking rules? it doesn`t matter if you think everyone on this forum knows, you do not talk about it publicly like that.
If they know what you`re talking about, they`ll catch your reference without you being so goddamn conspicuous. f*cking cancer.
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Male 1,548
Arresting Assange won`t stop Wikileaks. He`s just the face of the organization. The only thing you can do is stop the information at its source by actually improving your security protocols. Once the information is compromised, you can`t get it back.

The leak is more of an embarrassment for the security industry than it is for the state department. This is like getting caught passing notes in class and the teacher reads the note in front of everybody. The content of the wires is mostly of the same nature as gossiping high school girls. There`s no real state secrets in there.
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Male 37,888
If you can`t stop him one way
discredit him with Sex Crime Allegations


good one. worthy of George Bush.
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Male 535
oh come on! the US government has tried getting this guy on other bullpoo accusations. they just don`t see any other way to get him!
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Male 2,033
Poor guy, he needs to buy thicker condoms or something. That or maybe start using lube.
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Male 7,378
Sounds like BS to me. So these girls go willingly into bed with the guy. He`s normal enough to put a condom on but somewhere during sex the woman wants him to stop because she somehow noticed the condom broke but he`s become such an uncontrollable, raging sex machine that he doesn`t. Happens twice with 2 different girls? I think the guy is being set-up by our government who can find no legal way to stop him.
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Female 870
Rape. Yeah. Right. He also smacked a bunch of babies, threw some puppies in a river, and kicked his grandmama. While she was in the hospital. Dying. :/
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Male 496
We need to introduce this guy to Guantanamo.
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Male 57
LOL 4chan /b/ got hacked again, puddi puddi
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Male 272
well thats just prime
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Male 19,861
Link: Interpol Called for Arrest of WikiLeaks Founder [Rate Link] - Julian Assange is wanted by the law for leaking classified government documents? No. Something a lot more rapey.
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