How To Extract A Seal Team On A Vertical Slope

Submitted by: CrakrJak 6 years ago in Misc

You carefully half-land the rear of your Chinook helicopter. The skill involved here is beyond comprehension.
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Female 129
Really awesome maneuvering...but was that a hostage?
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Female 85
@mirnik, that was a real exfil.
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Female 11
did anybody see the guy around 1.33 with tied hands and eyes ?? Are they acting for training or is it real ??
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Male 177
our military is SO BAD ASS
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Male 69
@DeathsAngel and I LOVE flying in the Hawks!
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Male 69
@DeathsAngel ahhh I gotcha. Like I said, I`m just an FA guy who got to hang around `em for awhile. Although I thought I recalled some of the pilots saying they liked to fly with the AFCS off from time to time because it improved their overall piloting skills. I guess you wouldn`t want to be that pilot who is out over indian country and have an AFCS failure without some practice...might make RTB a little interesting!
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Male 3,076
@bergeracman nah a barrel roll doesn`t look good
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Male 602
It`s alright hon, that`s no deal breaker. Besides, if you are going to deploy, don`t you need someone to send you cookies and sweet letters that smell like home?
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Male 2,402
@DeathAngel

Yet you still think it`s not impressive sh*t to do? Wow your a tough sell.
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Female 85
Marley, maybe but I deploy in Feb.
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Male 602
Angel, wanna get married?
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Female 85



Btw, this is a blackhawk doing a two wheel landing (give me a break, we only have three wheels!). Anyways, this manuever`s actually MORE difficult because the tail naturally wants to be on the ground first. I know its a crappy angle but cut me some slack, I was actually IN the helicopter and more worried about my pilots smashing the belly on the edge of this mountain. You can`t tell but its a good 100ft drop.
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Female 85
@hypno1: You`re relatively correct except for one thing, AFCS helps stabilze the aircraft in all modes of flight. Also, its not a system that the pilots ever turn off, except in an emergency. Its a constant system because inputting one change (ie pitch) requires another input (ie trim) to be made to maintain your trim, heading, speed and altitude due to the rotor wash giving off by the aircraft. It also helps stabilize during inadvertant inputs (ie gusts of wind). While this manuever would be almost impossible without AFCS, its not a choice the pilots would ever need to make because an AFCS failure means returning to base immediately.
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Female 85
@handys003: No handy, what I`m saying is that a CHINOOK pilot with +/- 250hrs (they leave flight school with ~100hrs) could do this. I`ve seen it. Did you see the guy on the ramp? Well, that`s MY job, though thankfully on UH60s. Its aft rotor head, size and weight have absolutely NOTHING to do with performing that manuever EXCEPT when calculating if they`ll have enough power to hover. Those aft blades sit approximately 25ft off the ground when shut down and even higher when spinning. Also, the pitch of the aircraft actually HELPS because every landing a helicopter does, it does so TAIL first.

@Fartman51, you`d be surprised between a guy in flight school and a guy with <100hrs OUT of flight school. The Army likes to teach via doing. Usually our new guys first flights out of flight school, they`re doing everything they learned and a LOT they didn`t. We don`t hold our pilots hands. They get trained and they get it fast.
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Male 1,361
"Why couldnt you simply have said, up is vertical?"

Cause so is down
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Male 73
"In astronomy, geography, geometry and related sciences and contexts, a direction passing by a given point is said to be vertical if it is locally aligned with the gradient of the gravity field, i.e., with the direction of the gravitational force (per unit mass, i.e. gravitational acceleration vector) at that point. In general, something that is vertical can be drawn from up to down (or down to up), such as the y-axis in the Cartesian coordinate system."

Why couldnt you simply have said, up is vertical?
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Male 2,855
In astronomy, geography, geometry and related sciences and contexts, a direction passing by a given point is said to be vertical if it is locally aligned with the gradient of the gravity field, i.e., with the direction of the gravitational force (per unit mass, i.e. gravitational acceleration vector) at that point. In general, something that is vertical can be drawn from up to down (or down to up), such as the y-axis in the Cartesian coordinate system.
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Male 100
do a barrel roll!
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Male 69
Although I`m an Artillery Officer, I spent 2 years as a Fire Support Officer in a heavy lift aviation unit that flew this airframe.

A couple of things:

Although certainly in not this extreme of condition, Chinook pilots practice this type of thing all the time.

The hard part is getting the wheels down and stable. Once the pilot has them down, he just has to keep the front level (and make sure he doesn`t slip forwards or backwards. Forwards=bad. Backwards=really bad)

Chinooks do have an Automated Flight Control System (AFCS) that helps reduce pilot workload and helps stabilize the aircraft during hover. But it`s more designed to keep the aircraft stable at a fixed distance above more level ground (for example during a sling-load), so I`m not sure the pilot would trust it in this case. Tough to tell.

Special Operations teams generally have dedicated aircraft/pilots who are pretty experienced, more than likely at least several hundred hrs o
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Male 2,796
By the way, if you`ve never seen the hilarious sight of a bunch of grunts pushing a helicopter because the crew chief decided it would be funny to tell them the bird had to be "push started"... you haven`t lived.
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Male 2,796
The only thing inhuman is having to sit in those seats. They are uncomfortable to say the least and when you have all your gear on and packed in like sardines for a long ride... it sux!

I hate flying on helos though because, unlike fixed wing aircraft, if they get hhit or malfunction and start to go down... there are much fewer options, plus in a spin the centrifugal force keeps you pinned in even if you wanted to jump... I hate the thought.
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Male 94
zomg the rotor blades.

but i could so do this in battlefield 2. pssh.
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Male 812
Warranty void if seal is broken... I wouldn`t want to come 50 feet near those spinning blades. Especially when doing this requires inhuman skills.
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Male 67
Are you kidding me? This isn`t hard! It`s damn near impossible!

I`m a student pilot (yeah, with a Cessna) who has just barely solo`d, but I`ve seen helicopter pilots training, and most of them can barely hover. I`ve even tried it, and that nearly ended very badly. But this pilot here managed to rest the back of the helicopter on an easily 45 degree slope, have about 2 feet of clearance on the prop, and sat there for over about 40 seconds as solid as a rock. This is hella hard, and that is a damn fine pilot
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Male 2,579
If we as human beings spent as much time and energy on improving ourselves as we did on killing each other and other such military stuff...
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Male 2,402
@DeathsAngel

I`m not a pilot. I do have some friends who are with over 30 years in the doing tours around the islands and rescue locally. You ever flown over a live spewing volcano? Some are ex-vets from Nam. They saw this on Live Leak a while back. They were impressed. The fact the Helo its`s doubled bladed, it`s size, and weight, and having to maintain a degree of ptch at an angle on a slope of certain degree in windy conditions in the mountains. I seriously doubt a pilot of a few hundred hours could do it except for a rare exception. Cut the bull.

What your saying is a trainee with about a few 100 hours in a Cessna could pull the same skill as comparison to a pilot with 747 hours or F-117 capability.
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Male 12,138
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Female 85
@WhoaHeyDude, you can keep thinking it`s a vertical slope all you want, but before you do, you might want to look up the definition of vertical.

@handys003, do YOU even have the idea the skill involved? I`ve got pilots that have less than 100 hours out of flight school that can do that crap. Not a big deal.
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Male 22
It is very awesome. But a vertical slope is an oxymoron.
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Male 2,402
@puppies4

You have no clue to the skill involved and the conditons it involved to preform such. Such hyperbole on your part.
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Male 305
That`s so mighty fine camera work Lou.
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Male 686
While i agree this is pretty damn awsome can we stop exagerating in the links... I can both comprehend the skill involved and also think the person who linked this needs to look up the word vertical in a dictionary
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Male 263
America...F-Yeah!!
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Male 605
God I love helicopter pilots.
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Male 552
"oh come on, I think he has more than a millimeter. I`d give him two feet in any direction and this would still work. Maybe even three feet. "

even more than that, he could grind the rear end of that chopper into the hillside, doesn`t mean the chopper would just explode.
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Male 25,417
That was still very cool!
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Male 4,793
"That`s insane. One millimeter miscalculation by the pilot and everyone`s screwed."

oh come on, I think he has more than a millimeter. I`d give him two feet in any direction and this would still work. Maybe even three feet.
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Male 6,694
Thats what they do. Thats why they are bad a$$.
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Male 757
getting a bit jealous nasty nate?
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Male 5,194
It`s called the "Pinnacle Maneuver". They train for this.
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Male 49
lol @ deathwheels he thinks he is schooling everyone... someone give him a reward to shut him up
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Male 133
DeathsAngel
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
80 Posts Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:08:01 PM
Ok since it seems that no one else here flies on helicopters for a living, I`m share my two sense. First off, its not called a vertical slope, its just a two wheel landing

I`m pretty sure the "vertical slope" referred to..the vertical slope..that they were on. Hence, extracting them on a vertical slope.
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Female 85
Ok since it seems that no one else here flies on helicopters for a living, I`m share my two sense. First off, its not called a vertical slope, its just a two wheel landing and @decor, you`re wrong, we train to do that all the time. Not because we need the skill, just because we can. Also, that`s not all that hard to do at all. Its a terribly simple thing to do and any pilot that can hover ok can do it. The only concerns are drifting (inadvertent movements). Also @davymid, you`re a bit wrong about that particular aircraft. Chinooks fly extremely level because their forward transmissions are canted forward, a lot. Its extreme enough that the only time a Chinook is level, is when its flying (when parked, it sits extremely nose high.) So because of that, the pilots don`t have to fight rotor wash as much. Also, almost everything that flies, lands tail first. Helicopters are no exception. And Chinooks will even taxi with their front wheels off just to show off.
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Male 358
And then you realize he also has to start compensating for the weight of the troops when they start boarding.
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Male 1,598
Damn impressive.
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Male 72
It`s an extreamly impressive skill

Though the manover is heavily helped by on board computers which help the pilot to hover.

@auburnjunky
They don`t exactly train to do this perticular thing but they are trained to be able to hover the aircraft actreamly well at low level for troop drop offs and evacs
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Male 127
Thdot, yea they do...
A vertical slope. Hence the name. They simply don`t have a numerical value.
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Male 6
think I could get this pilot to teach my Ma how to reverse park?
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Male 658
Vertical lines have no slope.
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Male 12,138
That`s pretty awesome, especially considering the differential ground effect for the two rotors, which would tend to pitch the chopper forwards so the pilot has to compensate...

Besides, it`s nice to see a chinook do more than drop off care packages (yeah, I play too much Black Ops).
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Male 10,338
Does anyone know if this is an actual trained skill, or was he just making the best out of a situation...

Or was he showing off. :)
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Male 3,482
I`ve always wanted to be a chopper pilot...

Not sure I could pull THAT off though, with any amount of training... T_T
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Male 5,413
Wow damn that`s incredible. Seriously skilled pilot there
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Male 127
That`s insane. One millimeter miscalculation by the pilot and everyone`s screwed.
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Male 620
Brass balls.
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Male 237
puss
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Male 10,338
One of the most skillful things I`ve ever seen.
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Male 17,512
Link: How To Extract A Seal Team On A Vertical Slope [Rate Link] - You carefully half-land the rear of your Chinook helicopter. The skill involved here is beyond comprehension.
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