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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 3:08 pm
    Link: 9/11 First Responders on The Daily Show - First responders talk about the senate bill that the republicans are fighting.
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    fiizok Male 40-49
    591 posts
    December 17, 2010 at 3:39 pm
    It`s probably more accurate to say that Republicans have pretty much killed this bill. Unless a bill includes massive tax cuts for billionaires, Republicans won`t vote for it.
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    rammo34 Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 3:49 pm
    inb4 boring political debate/flamewar
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    December 17, 2010 at 3:51 pm
    To be accurate the bill is not tax cuts for anyone. It is a bill to continue taxation at it`s current rates for everyone. Only those on the left and the media can turn not raising taxes into a tax cut.

    Class warfare is not needed.
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    Thesphinx Male 18-29
    353 posts
    December 17, 2010 at 4:05 pm
    I watched the video, thought about it, and it doesn`t seem to me that they really do have much of a problem with healthcare. Maybe it`s not completely free for them, but I don`t understand how all of their problems (cancer, heart disease, etc.) came from that single incident, or how they can even say that it did.

    Obviously, people as a whole need better coverage. After all, that`s what all the nonsense has been about "Obamacare". But this isn`t necessarily the most efficient way of going about it, perhaps not even practical.
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    dirtysteve00 Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2010 at 4:07 pm
    Considering the website, how does this help my boredom?
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    ElMustache Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 4:32 pm
    The point being the EPA under Bush told the first responders not to wear masks. These men and women are heroes and deserve to be taken care of. The congressional republicans love to wave the idea of "Patriotism" in your face but when confronted with true patriots they fail to aknowledge them.
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    MrPeabody Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2010 at 4:50 pm
    If things are as portrayed on the Daily Show, then this is outrageous. But to play devil`s advocate I would really like to see the reasoning behind not passing the bill. One thing I hate about they way the government handles things is how they combine legislation to make it so if you want a bill passed you have to agree to some add on (known as pork barrel spending). Maybe there is something about this bill that caused it to be rejected as is. In these cases all you hear about is the one part of it that was not passed, but never about the waste of money that is tacked on.
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    MrPeabody Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2010 at 5:00 pm
    @fiizok

    It always amazes me how people will come out of the woodwork to complain about how the rich (in many cases people who worked hard to obtain what they have) are not taxed enough. Why don`t you put as much energy into lamenting the enormous amount of money that the Government wastes on uselessly? If the Government spent as much effort to clean up its own waste as it does trying to squeeze people for a penny, no American would want for anything. Just click this
    Google and start reading and then tell me why anyone would willingly give the Govt. anything.
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    inaria Female 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 5:40 pm
    @TheSphinx obviously while they were clearing out rubble they inhaled a lot of carcinogenic particles and airborne debris (example glass, asbestos, lead, mercury). I don`t know why they weren`t given respirators/some sort of filtration mask but it`s probably because they couldn`t get enough in such a short time and those little masks they give you at hospitals are worthless. The first responders likely wanted to work and help anyone who may have been trapped regardless of if they were properly protected. In a study my Mount Sinai, they had a sample group of ~1200 first responders and 40% of them had no health insurance, and 50% of them had heart problems (not even taking into account how many had lung problems and cancers). That`s ridiculous. Since of the commonality of the symptoms, it`s obvious that they are caused by exposure during the clearing of debris on Ground Zero.

    These people deserve help.
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    inaria Female 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 5:44 pm
    *because of; not since of :P
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    ElMustache Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 5:59 pm
    Inaria: They were told not to wear them.
    In the days and weeks following the attack the Environmental Protection Agency gave assurances to New Yorkers that the dust permeating Lower Manhattan and the smoke still emanating from Ground Zero did not pose a health risk. The agency issued five press releases within ten days of the attack assuring people that the air was safe to breathe, despite an absence of data to support such assurances. In August of 2003, it was revealed that the EPA had been muzzled by the Bush administration. EPA Inspector General Nikki Tinsley issued a report on August 21, 2003, admitting that the reassurances were unfounded, and that the public statements of the agency were being influenced by the National Security Council, under the direction of the White House. The EPA, according to the report, had been influenced to "add reassuring statements and delete cautionary ones."

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    hi2pi Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2010 at 6:36 pm
    @MrPeabody
    The reasoning was that if they couldn`t get a tax cut for America`s millionaires then no-one could get anything...it was a case of selling out the American people plain and simple.
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    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 6:46 pm
    yey free health care!
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    MrPeabody Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2010 at 7:09 pm
    @hi2pi

    "The reasoning was that if they couldn`t get a tax cut for America`s millionaires then no-one could get anything...it was a case of selling out the American people plain and simple."

    I understand this, but as I stated below (maybe not so clearly), the Government has no right to ask anyone, whether they be rich or poor to pay more in taxes when they waste the money so blatantly (Rep. and Dem. are both equally to blame). They need to clean their own house, and stop asking citizens to waste money on their pet projects and lack of planning. Once they can prove that they are responsible with the money they already have, then they can ask for more if they truly need it. People should be asking why isn`t anything being done about Government waste instead of should we extend the tax cut.
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    inaria Female 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 7:42 pm
    @El Mustache Oh wow. Even worse then, because since then there have been multiple studies done that say the exact opposite (and obviously the workers are paying for it now). I mean someone`s NOSE fell off. So sad.
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    Volsunga Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 8:20 pm
    I usually don`t mind Jon Stewart, but this thing kinda pissed me off. It wasn`t that republicans were actively fighting this bill, its that they were forcing renewing the tax cuts as an absolute priority. Argue the politics of the Bush tax cuts all you want, but it`s a sound political strategy that the Democrats have used several times before when they had the minority. It`s blatantly dishonest what liberals did here. They pushed through a bill that otherwise would not have seen the light of day just so it would make the Republicans look bad for sticking to their promise of "Not doing anything until the tax cuts are renewed". In this case, its the Democrats that are the ones looking bad because they used these heroes as pawns to falsely discredit their opponents.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2010 at 8:41 pm
    @volsunga: Wait....what? You`re pissed that they`re using Conservative tactics?
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2010 at 8:44 pm
    Republicans didn`t fight - THEY KILLED.

    They talk big f*ckin` game when elections are on the line, but when it comes time to put up or shut the f*ck up, the cater to their rich folk masters.

    Firefighters are blue collar and generally not wealthy. Thus, exploited by Republicans for political gain, but Republicans get up to go to the bathroom when the check shows up...
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
    4019 posts
    December 17, 2010 at 8:52 pm
    Volsunga - f*ck off assh*le. Way to ride the backs of 9/11 to office and power but totally show your gutless, spineless true self when the country seeks to compensate the "heros" you oh so conveinently reminded us lost their lives on 9/11.

    When it came time to put up or shut up, you cried like a little f*cking bitch. F*ck you, f*ck your Republican ilk, manipulating terrorism for political gain but exposing yourself as the true COWARD YOU ARE.

    NOW YOU F*CKING CARE ABOUT COST???? NOW YOU CARE ABOUT TAXES???? NOW YOU CARE ABOUT FISCAL RESPONSIBILTY??? DIDN`T F*CKIN MATTER WHEN YOU WROTE BLANK CHECKS FOR WARS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.

    Ohhhhh, but healthcare for 9/11 responders - THERE IS WHERE YOUR COWARDLY ILK DRAW THE LINE IN THE SAND.

    F*CKING COWARDS.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    December 17, 2010 at 8:53 pm
    Volsunga- "they pushed through a bill that would not otherwise seen the light of day..."

    It has all the votes it needs despite this cowardly filibuster, all it really needs is to be passed in reconciliation.

    Furthermore, Oh yeah totally, I mean Reps are the aggrieved ones here, the ones who constantly invoked 9/11, *constantly*, made a cottage industry of it, then used it as a cudgel to bludgeon everyone else into silence whenever we had a contrary opinion about anything. "Pre 9/11 mindset!" and all that malarky, remember?

    Stop with the fake righteous indignation already.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
    4019 posts
    December 17, 2010 at 8:54 pm
    "Not doing anything until the tax cuts are renewed"

    I.e., make sure those rich folks are taken care of first. This is the Republican party line, and you spout it in its entirety. Why not shut the f*cking government down to prevent millionaires from paying their fair share of taxes? 9/11 responders are NOT AS IMPORTANT as rich people - THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.

    F*cking jackass.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
    4019 posts
    December 17, 2010 at 8:55 pm
    Heh, the best part is, Republicans being Republicans is the best thing that could happen to Democrats. WAY TO PRIORITIZE THE RICH OVER THE POOR WHILE THE POOR CONTINUE TO SUFFER YOU F*CKING non-nice individual.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
    4019 posts
    December 17, 2010 at 9:01 pm
    THIS ELECTION AWOKE THE LIBERAL MONSTER. AWAIT YOUR F*CKING DEMISE. WE APPROPRIATE YOUR BEST ISSUE - TAX CUTS - TO EXTEND UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS FOR 13 MONTHS!!!!! SOMETHING MILLIONAIRES HATE!!!

    YOU GOT WORKED JACKASS!!!!!! SCHOOLED!!! WHILE YOU FEEL VICTORIOUS, THE BILL COST $850 BILLION IN GOVERNMENT SPENDING!!!!!

    WHERE IS YOUR CONCERN OVER GOVERNMENT SPENDING????? You cry whine over "excessive spending," but you oh-so-gaily jump for joy when we give rich people tax cuts, shorting the federal revenue.

    Check. You are in check. What can the house do now?
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    Volsunga Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 9:04 pm
    @goalieJerry
    At what point did I say I supported the Republicans? All I said is that, in this case, they were using a fair political strategy and then the Democrats pushed this bill, which they had previously stalled in committee, for the sole purpose of dishonest character assassination. The Democrats put this forward knowing that the Republicans would stick to the boycott. It was never intended to pass, just to make the Republicans look like non-nice individuals for doing what they said they`d do.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 9:06 pm
    "Hey, they`re shining a spotlight on just how much we are total inhuman p.ricks!! How dare they?!"

    *Eyeroll*
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    Volsunga Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 9:35 pm
    @QueenZira
    You don`t seem to understand the fact that I`m saying that BOTH sides are "inhuman p.ricks". If you do the slightest amount of research, you`ll find that the Democrats have been stalling these "crucial" bills (food safety bill and some gay rights measures included) in committee since February so they could have an "insurance package" should they lose the majority in anticipation of the expiration of the Bush tax cuts. The cuts are a given for Republicans to do anything to get passed. Since the Democrats oppose the cuts on the "wealthy", the only tactic a minority party has in a lame duck session is to filibuster everything the opposition puts forth until they agree to pass the bill. So the Democrats threw everything that could hurt the Republicans for defeating in for no other purpose than dirty politics. If the Democrats are so much better, then why didn`t they pass these bills when they had a majority? They were around then.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    December 17, 2010 at 9:43 pm
    If you`ve been paying attention to current events at all, then you realize that the Senate is effectively broken, and it`s broken because the Rep minority has decided to filibuster *everything* that has ever come up in this legislative session.

    The minority party can`t make policy but it can sure make for a solid doorstop on the prez`s policies alright. The Reps are so d@mned determined that nothing should come from Obama legislatively, that he should have essentially no political capital that they are even willing to kill St. Ronnie`s baby, his START treaty with Russia, you know the "Trust but verify" nuke treaty? Even though every big Rep name from the past is begging them to ratify it again. Stay tuned for this one folks.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
    2402 posts
    December 17, 2010 at 9:46 pm
    I ain`t gonna work on Maggie`s farm no more
    No, I ain`t gonna work on Maggie`s farm no more
    Well I try my best
    To be just like I am
    But everybody wants you
    To be just like them
    They sing while they slave and just get bored
    I ain`t gonna work on, nah
    I ain`t gonna work on Maggie`s farm no more
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    December 17, 2010 at 9:48 pm
    For the record, I don`t idolize Dems either. They are not what they used to be, Dems from the past, The Noble Ancestors, are weeping over the spineless joke their party has become. That`s basically the reason I identify as neither party on my voting registration. My emotional and philosophical home might be the Dem party, but for now I and lots of other progressives, are in exile.
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    Volsunga Male 18-29
    1548 posts
    December 17, 2010 at 10:02 pm
    @QueenZira
    I agree with you, the Senate is broken. But to blame it solely on the Republicans is to miss half the problem. Before the 2008 election, it was not uncommon to see bills pass or fail along the lines of individual senators, not necessarily along party lines. When the Democrats gained control of both houses and the executive, they somehow decided that they would try to enact their policy unilaterally and without compromise. The Republicans only defense in this situation is also to be without compromise. This straight line division is not how our congress was meant to work.
    Congress is acting like a Parliament when it is not built upon the right foundations to do so. In a parliamentary system, you cannot rightfully blame the party for their actions, everyone knows what they are. You have to blame the people for voting them into office.
    When the new session begins and the parties each have control of a house, much more compromise will be made. We might get sanity bac
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2010 at 10:19 pm
    Would love to watch this and check it out, but this F*CKING ARTIFICIAL MAN-MADE REGION BULLSH*T PISSES ME OFF.

    So, I can`t watch it (like many other vids) in Canada, because I`m in Canada. The suggested link doesn`t even direct me to the video from another source, it directs me to a generic source from where I have to go search the video. Which I have tried before many times, every time without success.

    Meh, sorry for ranting. I`ve just had it up to here with artificial blockers on the sharing of entertainment/information/news.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    December 17, 2010 at 10:23 pm
    Davy, I`m not sure if this will help but thedailyshow.com might be available.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    December 17, 2010 at 10:29 pm
    Ok, here we go, linky.
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    December 17, 2010 at 10:37 pm
    The tactics the Repubs used have been used by the Dems also.

    The place isn`t broken. The people we elect to represent us are broken. If they can not find some common ground we will vote in people that can.

    Decisions can`t be all Dem or all Repub. Nor can they be all lib and all con. We have many different view points in our population. So if it is all one way or the other then usually more than half are not represented in the outcome.

    It`s time for both sides to figure out what they can live with and what is good for all of us. Not just some of us.

    Stop with the class warfare, that is simply a political tactic to have the libs get more taxes. The Repubs have similar political tactics they use.

    This is how our government works and doesn`t work.
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12151 posts
    December 17, 2010 at 10:42 pm
    Thanks for the effort, Zira. Still get the same crap: "In Canada, Comedy Central Shows are available on blah blah blah, back to square one. The effort is appreciated though.

    As a European who now lives in Canada after having lived in Africa, I have had to buy DVD players in triplicate to play all my media, for Regions 1, 2 and 5. All man-made artificial bullwank. It`s akin to paying for the upgraded version of Windows... you`re not actually paying for more content/features, you`re paying for unlock codes to a piece of ware that you`ve already paid for. Deep, deep bullsh*t.

    Anyways, ducking out now, don`t want to derail the convo. You kids carry on and have fun, I`ll go seethe at the establishment for a while.
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    DomTheDaring Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 1:30 am
    If Jon Steward was a woman, I`d woo and impregnate him. He is my if-I-were-gay muse.
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    PierreJeanFR Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2010 at 3:50 am
    Tridirk if you want to convince yourself ok,
    but don`t try to fool the rest of us, we are not delusional.
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    K3vin Male 18-29
    487 posts
    December 18, 2010 at 6:35 am
    davy... Buy a region free dvd player and your troubles will be over.
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    inaria Female 18-29
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    December 18, 2010 at 6:53 am
    @Davymid Canadian Link
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    inaria Female 18-29
    1515 posts
    December 18, 2010 at 7:03 am
    Volsunga said: "When the Democrats gained control of both houses and the executive, they somehow decided that they would try to enact their policy unilaterally and without compromise."

    I don`t think that`s exactly true. I know on numerous occassions the Dems asked the Republicans to put forth a plan made by the repubicans based on bill they(the Dems) were trying to get passed, so they could work towards compromise. Unfortunately, the Republicans just ignored the requests and continued shooting everything down. So I don`t think the Democrats are solely to blame for this. Republicans just won`t compromise despite attempts to get them to add their say. I`d say that`s selfish, juvenile and broken.
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    tridirk Male 50-59
    313 posts
    December 18, 2010 at 8:25 am
    You can`t fool idiots. They are already there.

    But thanks for the advice.
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    fivezones Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2010 at 11:35 am
    The less Waashington does the better. I will not and can not cheer for R D R D R D. its drating retarded
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25406 posts
    December 18, 2010 at 12:40 pm
    meh...
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    December 18, 2010 at 1:11 pm
    Thanks inaria!
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    Schr0dinger Male 50-59
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    December 18, 2010 at 7:10 pm
    If you are a Democrat you are an idiot. If you are a Republican you are still an idiot.

    The Republicans do not have the numbers to stop anything. Period. If the Democrats were smart enough to work a drating shovel they could have passed any damned thing they wanted. But the group of ineffective losers with a D are pointing to the group of ineffective losers with an R and whining.

    Anyone that can not see that, is dumber than hammered dog crap. If you think a minority party is standing in the way of anything you only prove that you are a stupid as your elected officials think you are.

    God I hate you stupid people. Not one of you is worth the room you take up.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    December 18, 2010 at 8:34 pm
    Aww schrody, we love you dense, out of touch dinosaurs too. :-X *Muah*
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    Schr0dinger Male 50-59
    359 posts
    December 18, 2010 at 9:24 pm
    Yes zira I am out of touch. You however are in tight with the fools that chase after the scraps you are thrown.

    Keep thinking you have some clue you drone.
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    zmeace Male 18-29
    807 posts
    December 19, 2010 at 1:04 pm
    wow schr0dinger, i agreed with your first sentence, after that you just kept getting stupider and stupider until you hit rock bottom with your last sentence,

    obviously this whole thing is because the repubs are mad that the dems came up with this bill and being rivals they dont want to support it, the dems could do a lot more to sweeten this deal to make it pass but they wont.

    and now the first responders are getting caught in the middle because ADULTS DONT KNOW HOW TO ACT LIKE ADULTS BUT RATHER ACT LIKE CHILDREN
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    December 22, 2010 at 1:44 pm
    @ Davy... But on the bright side.. you are in CANADA!

    @ Schr0dinger... don`t hold back, please tell us how you REALLY feel!

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