TSA`s Enhanced Security Spurs US `Airport Rage`

Submitted by: MauserTM 7 years ago in Funny

Full body scanners and enhanced pat downs in private rooms are here. Now passengers are planning a boycott. Huzzah!
There are 80 comments:
Female 129
If you go to `Latest` on IAB there`s a video of young boy getting a pat down; freaking crazy.
0
Reply
Male 15,832
"Oh, please. They are NOT sexually assaulting children."

No? If a screener on her day off did this to a little three-year-old girl from her neighborhood, they`d put her UNDER the jail. And if she EVER got out, she would have to register as a sex offender for the rest of her life.

But somehow, the exact same act that would land her in prison somehow magically stops being a sexual assault if she does it when she`s on duty at the airport.
0
Reply
Female 1,077
Oh, please. They are NOT sexually assaulting children. Be absolutely honest with yourself. If you can genuinely say that you believe they are MOLESTING CHILDREN, please re-evaluate the situation.

They`re patting you down. They`re not groping your tits. They`re not sharing naked pictures of your children. Jesus Christ.
0
Reply
Female 4,039
See, I told you guys we`re all going to end up flying naked.
0
Reply
Male 15,832
[quote]And to think so many people thought nothing of the so called "patriot" act.[/quote]
As I recall, liberals were $#!++ing bricks over the Patriot act, but I haven`t heard many complaints from them over this.

What`s more intrusive, someone showing probable cause to a judge and getting a warrant to find out if a terror suspect checked out books on bomb making, or some dude feeling up your junk without any reason to suspect you`ve done anything wrong?

Or, which is worse, the FBI intercepting an email between a Taliban commander in Afghanistan and an al Qaeda leader in Yemen which happens to pass through a US server, or sexually assaulting a screaming, crying child?

Or what`s worse, the FBI and CIA sharing information on foreign and domestic terror investigations, or the TSA guys sharing a nude picture of your daughter?

Let`s place our outrage where it belongs.
0
Reply
Male 230
They dont do pat downs in a private room.

They will if you ask.

Rarely.
0
Reply
Male 230
the issue has to do with it being overkill. there was nothing wrong with the old way. The video made an excellent point too. How far will they go? while showing the passengers completely naked on the plane.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
No the issue is these "searches" are unwarranted and there for illegal. Even if its on private property they have no right to conduct a search with out a warrant. Also not to mention the possible health effects of the scanners. It may not hurt you to go through them once or twice but if you have to travel allot for work and are getting scanned 2-3 times a week there is a very real risk.
0
Reply
Male 15,832
[quote]They dont do pat downs in a private room.[/quote]
They will if you ask.
0
Reply
Male 15,832
[quote]What if you bought your ticket before news of these regulations going into effect?[/quote]
I think that`s why the guy who said, "If you touch my junk, I`ll have you arrested," is getting a pass. What they`re trying to avoid, though, is letting terrorists "probe" the system by seeing how far they can get with bomb or weapon, and then backing out just before they get caught.
0
Reply
Male 230
They dont do pat downs in a private room.
0
Reply
Female 83
Awwww man... I`m flying tomorrow.
0
Reply
Male 105
What if you bought your ticket before news of these regulations going into effect?
It`s not like you would know the "enhanced groping" was going to go into effect between the time you ordered your non-refundable ticket and the time of the flight....
0
Reply
Male 176
@Juggalette - By purchasing a ticket you are agreeing to the policies of that company. For airlines in the United States they must comply with the Air Commerce and Safety portions of the TSA. So even before you go into line you are agreeing to the safety measures. So you can`t then all of a sudden when asked to be scanned say "drat it, I`ll just drive". And the it`s up to $11 000 see here from TSA blog
0
Reply
Male 171
Meant to say metal detector instead of x ray.
0
Reply
Female 1,380
@jayno, if you refuse the scan and patdown, and decide to say "drat it" and just drive instead, you can be fined up to $10,000
0
Reply
Male 3
I propose having two queues at an airport, one where the security staff do all they can to maximise safety on a flight including full body scans etc and another where people can opt out and go for the old security checks and get on a different plane.

I know which queue i`d be getting in.
0
Reply
Male 176
@skullgrin - showing all passengers naked - reductio ad absurdum; however, all those passengers still CHOSE to fly, be it naked

@IlDayo - if private businesses start requiring a full body scan you still have the choice not to enter those businesses.

Just a question, do you think you should be scanned (be it metal detector or otherwise) when entering the White House?
0
Reply
Male 144
Maybe it`s just me, but I`m not sure where the issue is.
--------------

When they start requiring these scans when entering ANY private business maybe you`ll understand.
0
Reply
Male 2,516
Nun ninja kick!
0
Reply
Male 936
[quote]
Maybe it`s just me, but I`m not sure where the issue is.
[/quote]

the issue has to do with it being overkill. there was nothing wrong with the old way. The video made an excellent point too. How far will they go? while showing the passengers completely naked on the plane.
0
Reply
Male 3,372
And to think so many people thought nothing of the so called "patriot" act.
0
Reply
Male 176
So let me get this straight:
You, the passenger, are choosing to fly on a private companies property. By purchasing the ticket you understand that you need to comply with whatever restrictions that private company needs to set forth to comply with for government safety regulations. They give you the option to either go through the electronic body scan, or get a private pat down, or not get on the plane and choose another form of travel.
Maybe it`s just me, but I`m not sure where the issue is.
0
Reply
Female 6
The video Was superbly made...

Original`s here!!!!
0
Reply
Male 176
Where do you draw the line between security and liberty/freedom? Somewhere further back down the road I reckon....We have all rather sadly been railroaded into accepting dimishing liberty over the course of the last 30 or so years.
0
Reply
Male 2,402
Freak when you pass your medical equipment, or laptop through security. After a scan they pass a swipe over the equipment; then have their "what ever you call it" machine smell for explosives. Now why can`t they just have those machines sniffing out explosive materials on persons passing through instead?
0
Reply
Male 2,868
They should just ban airplanes. Then nobody can hijack them or blow them up.
0
Reply
Male 400
sash2422
Male, 18-29, Europe
1 Posts Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:46:37 PM
Maybe it is an invasion of privacy, but i for one couldn`t give a poo, if this improves airport security then why would anyone not want this to go ahead? Its not like the trained security staff are gonna be giggling about it every time a person walks through a full body scan. I`d be much happier getting on a plane knowing all the passengers had this check instead of the old one.



Because American citizens are not accustomed to being being groped and / or electronically stripped. We have rights in this country. Rights that were established by our founding fathers and fought for by many brave men and women. I think it`s every American`s responsibility to demand every liberty we are entitled to. It`s the least we can do.
0
Reply
Male 400
Billito
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
14 Posts Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:46:13 PM
I think people are being outraged just to be outraged. If they *actually* had a problem with the scanners, they would organize and refuse the scan. They couldn`t afford to do a thorough pat-down for everybody.

Next time I fly I`ll certainly opt for the pat-down. Whoever gets to grab my groin is gonna be in for a real treat! (I mean my penis, not contraband)




National Opt out day is November 24th. And personally, I will be among the many opting out because I think people have a right to be outraged.
0
Reply
Male 5,194
Fire John Pistole, abolish the TSA.
0
Reply
Male 10,855
@madest

That is how Israeli airport security works, but I wish they wouldn`t single out Arabs.
As this incident would show you don`t have to be Arabic to hijack a plane.



On the other hand what the TSA is doing is total BS (and I agree with CrakrJak`s post).
0
Reply
Male 1,625
Never thought I`d say this...

Well done, CrakrJak.
0
Reply
Male 198
I think more people are secretly worried that no one will want to fap to their full-body scans.

Personally, I feel that if someone wants to jack/jill off to me, go for it. Just please wait until your shift is over. There`s people in line behind me.
0
Reply
Male 17,511
0
Reply
Male 74
I think people are being outraged just to be outraged. If they *actually* had a problem with the scanners, they would organize and refuse the scan. They couldn`t afford to do a thorough pat-down for everybody.

Next time I fly I`ll certainly opt for the pat-down. Whoever gets to grab my groin is gonna be in for a real treat! (I mean my penis, not contraband)
0
Reply
Male 319
I was expecting a serious news article. Or at least something in English. Or at least something with REAL PEOPLE! WTF was that?
0
Reply
Male 2,121
Obviously only Blacks and Asians are the only ones we need to do this to.

/sarcasm (just in case, some people are pretty stupid)
0
Reply
Male 67
im not surprised that the terrorists would be laughing at us
0
Reply
Male 385
Meh I`ll take a train....or better yet a cruse ship. I`m in no hurry.
0
Reply
Male 3,482
[quote]I can understand having suspicious people be scanned or patted down. But the average joe should just go through the x-ray and be done with it.[/quote]
Define "suspicious people."

See, that`s where the line gets fuzzy. If you start profiling, two things could and likely will happen:

A) False searches, for whatever reason. A corrupt security officer could start sending people through just because he can, or someone could be sent through for acting "suspiciously" because they don`t like cops. People would get racially profiled, and then the debates start again.

B) Your "average Joe" could turn out to be the one that IS a terrorist. Terrorists aren`t all one color, one religion, one x-factor. They can come from all races, all backgrounds, anywhere. The minute you start letting some people through because they seem "normal" to you, one of them is going to prove you dead wrong. And possibly just plain dead.
0
Reply
Male 121
@button_guy Fair enough. Upon further investigation, I learned the reason pregnant women shouldn`t fly is due to air pressure changes. Still, my original point remains valid. Full body scan = 20 minutes at cruising altitude. Not a concern for the average Joe.
0
Reply
Male 171
Cosmic radiation is NOT the reason pregnant women shouldn`t fly. Radiation is a damned good reason for them not to go through them scanners though. And the issue shouldn`t be whether or not the "terrorists have won". I believe it is whether these scanners are necessary and/or ethical. I can understand having suspicious people be scanned or patted down. But the average joe should just go through the x-ray and be done with it.
0
Reply
Male 121
There`s one thing you people need to understand about these full body scanners. Yes, they do submit you to radiation. However, the amount of radiation that you experience is approximately the same amount of radiation you would experience by being in the air for 20 minutes.
When we`re in the air, we all experience cosmic radiation. This is why pregnant women aren`t allowed to fly.
0
Reply
Male 12,365
[quote]Really?! I was unaware that their plan was to make us get patted down or go in body scanners when we went to the airport. Crafty little bastards.[/quote]

More trouble and less freedom is part of their plan. Publicity is also part of their plan, and such intrusive reminders are great publicity for them.

It`s not an entirely ridiculous statement.
0
Reply
Female 3,598
madest- "Frisk the people that are flying into the US, not old ladies flying to Florida."
truer words have never been spoken.
0
Reply
Male 1,625
Ben Franklin: "Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."
0
Reply
Female 3,598
ugh. i refuse to fly b/c of this type of crap. i hate being treated like a criminal when all i`m trying to do is GO somewhere.
0
Reply
Male 3
Maybe it is an invasion of privacy, but i for one couldn`t give a poo, if this improves airport security then why would anyone not want this to go ahead? Its not like the trained security staff are gonna be giggling about it every time a person walks through a full body scan. I`d be much happier getting on a plane knowing all the passengers had this check instead of the old one.
0
Reply
Female 126
If we dont accept public nudity the terrorist win... wtf tsa ?
0
Reply
Male 1,073
@skine: Where do you draw the line? Get rid of metal detectors in Federal buildings? Courthouses? Schools? Full body metal detectors? Wands? What about `street pat-downs` (for lack of the real term) that cops are allowed to do for their own safety when interacting with questionable people?

It`s not an easy, cut and dry type of question.
0
Reply
Female 751
I agree, most people are up in arms about this being a privacy issue, but that`s not the only concern. I will try to be objective: I`ve heard due to frequent use and radiation being a health concern, pilots and flight attendants are (this is where I am confused) either being encourage to get pat downs, or opting for them due to personal concern. The scanners have had their radiation levels checked, but the levels have not been evaluated by all the proper authorities. (from Cnn news)
The rough pat downs are to discourage flyers from opting out ofrom scans. If both pat down and scan are refused(lets say one flyer says "eff this I`m driving I want a refund")up to 10,000 in fines are applicable. or as A fine, not sure on that one either.
So american`s still have the right to choose not to fly, but it highly inconveniences them. For ex, for me to fly up to see my in-laws is $600 a person for a 2 hr flight, to drive is 2 days and 1,000 miles. Will I opt out? idk yet
0
Reply
Male 1,598
What the hell is this garbage animation?

"The terrorists have won"?
Really?! I was unaware that their plan was to make us get patted down or go in body scanners when we went to the airport. Crafty little bastards.
0
Reply
Male 719
@Altaru: I`m not saying there is an answer that will magically get rid of all problems.

I`m just saying that we should, at very least, hold the TSA up to the standards of search and seizure required of ANY other law enforcement agency in the US. Yes, there is a lot of room for improvement in the requirements of US law enforcement, but imagine if their requirements were as low as those used by the TSA.
0
Reply
Male 1,073
"The fact of the matter is that if a person in the US wants to fly, they must either allow themselves to be photographed naked, or allow themselves to be sexually assaulted (by this I mean touching and fondling of the breasts, labia, testicles, penis and anus)."

Ridiculous. You are not being `photographed` and the image is not you `naked`. Are outlines and contours visible sure. Including the outlines of your underwear. There are no skin tones, facial features or anything that anyone could identify as you. The images are supposed to be viewed remotely, so the inspector can`t see you clothed and scanned.

As for fondling - also ridiculous. fondle: "to handle or touch lovingly, affectionately, or tenderly; caress:" Not happening. Touching? Yes. Sensing with the hands? Yup. That`s what a pat-down is...

And you take it one step further by including labia and anus. CRAZY! Nobody is trying to touch those. Let alone be able to thro
0
Reply
Male 7,378
[quote]Profiling does NOT work if you profile based on age, race or dress.[/quote]
-----------
It doesn`t work for handing out tickets but it would work for airline security measures.
0
Reply
Male 1,118
Here`s an idea.. Get those pants that male strippers use where you can rip them right off, and wear a banana hammock underneath. Then choose to opt out of the body scanner, and give the TSA agent a pat down experience he`ll never forget!
0
Reply
Female 233
LMAO... not at the vid so much, but at y`all in the forum... You guys rage over EVERYthing!
0
Reply
Male 15,510
Love those videos haha so true, Americans lol
0
Reply
Male 3,482
[quote]Frisk the people that are flying into the US, not old ladies flying to Florida.[/quote]
Right. Because the terrorists` biggest successes have been flying planes that came from out of country...
0
Reply
Male 719
@madest: Profiling does NOT work if you profile based on age, race or dress. In fact, most terrorists in the US have been middle-age while males. So (if you are white and your age is correct), then YOU fit the profile of the typical terrorist in this country.

Profiling DOES work if you profile based on a person`s behavior. Like I said before, a well trained officer will easily be able to detect a person who is acting in such a way as to raise suspicion.
0
Reply
Male 3,482
[quote]It is demonstrably more useful to have the officer evaluate how the traveler responds to a simple question (such as "Where are your going?")[/quote]
Even then, there would be problems.

The primary reason I can think of is because of all those stupid pricks who think "Oh, it`s a government official, I should tell him to shove off and mind his own business, the filthy pig."

Between the officers who actually ARE corrupt and the people who think all officials are corrupt and lie to them or act like pricks to them, there`d be a TON of false alarms that would raise plenty of complaints...
0
Reply
Male 719
@KrazyKoala: The terrorists haven`t won by inconveniencing us.

The terrorists have won by making us so afraid that we`re willing to give up our basic rights.

The fact of the matter is that if a person in the US wants to fly, they must either allow themselves to be photographed naked, or allow themselves to be sexually assaulted (by this I mean touching and fondling of the breasts, labia, testicles, penis and anus).
0
Reply
Male 15,832
madest, you may be wrong on a lot of stuff, but your absolutely right about this, and I don`t mind saying it. ;-)
0
Reply
Male 15,832
I want an opposite-sex pat down. Otherwise, screw it! I`m driving.
0
Reply
Male 7,378
The TSA needs to profile. Americans aren`t hijacking planes and flying them into buildings. We`re doing this because people from the mideast have a bone to pick with our government. It may be a deserved bone but they need to leave us out of it. So the TSA should pack up their gear and move it to the mideast. Frisk the people that are flying into the US, not old ladies flying to Florida.
0
Reply
Male 719
On the other hand, a well trained officer can easily detect people displaying suspicious behavior. It is demonstrably more useful to have the officer evaluate how the traveler responds to a simple question (such as "Where are your going?") than to have an entire army of people who only care about whether a machine sounds an alarm.
0
Reply
Male 719
@TR: There are a few simple ways to make sure that it is impossible to hijack or blow up an airplane.

1) Lock the roosterpit door and do not open it under any circumstances. This works on the basic principle that a person who can`t get to the plane`s controls can`t control the plane.

2) Realize that if a bomb is not big enough to be obvious, it`s not big enough to cause the plane to crash. Yes, people nearby would be injured or killed, but, for example, the underwear bomber could have caused more damage in your average restaurant (RESTAURANTS DON`T HAVE SECURITY CHECKPOINTS!) than in an airplane.

3) Require searches to be made only on reasonable grounds, with a minimum requirement of probable cause (you know, like in Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution). The biggest problem with using devices such as are used now, is that any layman already knows how to beat the system (hide the bomb in your anus and you can get on the plane easily).
<
0
Reply
Female 1,963
If the pat down room really includes a bed, I`m down.

Seriously though, I don`t mind getting scanned or frisked. There`s nothing I can do about it anyway. Air travel is pretty much my only option if I ever want to see my family.
0
Reply
Male 208
Yes the terrorists won our society is crippled and panicked because we have extra security measures!

Honestly if it was the terrorists goals to inconvenience us then that`s just retarded. Terrorists haven`t won anything and neither have we. It`s one huge cluster **** that will never end.
0
Reply
Female 2,525
I have a strong fear of being touched by strangers, so I have no choice but to let them see me naked instead. :-/ It makes me really uncomfortable but if I want to fly somewhere there`s nothing I can do about it. At least they give you a choice between being groped or strip searched!
0
Reply
Male 2,229
Be afraid, be very afraid, the terrorist are coming to take you a away...oh wait, sec...they took over Wall St already, and ran rough shod thu the government...hmmm...ohh, you Americans elected them in?

Never mind...
0
Reply
Male 667
Where the hell is this going on anyways? I`ve been on international flights and never experienced these pat downs or seen any of these high tech x-ray machines.
0
Reply
Male 4,807
The Terrorists have won.. The world is a little slow in realizing this.

Remove der shoes.
Nicht toothpaste.
Toner cartridges forbotten.
Du wirst nie wieder frei sein!!!

0
Reply
Male 1,557
I honestly don`t care. If some dude wants to look at my balls by X-Ray to reduce the risk of someone hijacking the plane Im on or blowing it up, then Im quite happy to allow it.
0
Reply
Male 171
I agree. They did win. Our government has repeatedly offended and disrespected it`s own people time and time again. Civil liberties should never be sacrificed for any reason. I`d rather die than live in a society where I would be constantly supervised and suspected. I`m not scared of terrorists. I`m scared of the government.
0
Reply
Male 886
As I wrote on CNN`s comment section:

1. I am not going to get a dose of radiation everytime I get on a flight. And I will not submit to a same gender junk check. It will have to be a female TSA "agent" and not the 300lbs cnn was showing in their picture. (I also would prefer they hum the gilligan`s island themesong throught the process)

2. Anyone who thinks they will touch any child related to me, in ways that would have the child pointing out where she was touched on a doll, will have to endure at least a 30 second ass kicking from me until the "agents" pull me off.

3. Anyone thinking they will touch my mother in the same way or my father should refer to #2.

4. The TSA routinely hires people with criminal backgrounds. I would never submit to them touching me for fear I would come away with Herpes Simplex B or some other STD....though...when flying I routinely leave via Baltimore and Philly...so I shouldn`t expect anything more t
0
Reply
Male 2,669
The TSA screeners are goons and thugs. It would help if the TSA didn`t hire people whose last job involved a mop and bucket.
0
Reply
Male 10,338
"If you refuse a full body scan, you may opt for lesbian sex."

Yes please.
0
Reply
Male 25,416
Wow, that would be interesting a nude flight! makes the mile high club that bit easier!
0
Reply
Male 121
This video is so ridiculous, which may or may not be distracting from the main issue here.
0
Reply
Male 1,222
Link: TSA`s Enhanced Security Spurs US `Airport Rage` [Rate Link] - Full body scanners and enhanced pat downs in private rooms are here. Now passengers are planning a boycott. Huzzah!
0
Reply