Should Pluto Be a Planet After All?

Submitted by: midnightblis 6 years ago in Science
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Should astronomers consider giving Pluto it"s former title of planet?
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Female 259
Pluto; Forever Alone.
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Male 1,834
stupid science
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Male 586
yay Pluto! I`m rooting for you!
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Male 2,229
hmmm...several person missed out on geography and science class. Considering that the ancient Greeks calculated the the circumference of the Earth and had it spot on. And sadly most to all the "flat earth stuff" originated in the late 19th and early 20th centuries by people that where afaid of the technological pace of advancement (we`d call such persons technophobic by todays standards).
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Male 39,902
Ah HA! You guys were trying to confuse the issue!
Here is a link to a website that PROVES the earth is FLAT!

Flat Earth Society

It`s science, dude!
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Male 39,902
"many years ago people thought the world was flat"

It not? ... You`re sure?

Has anyone Goggled this?
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Male 12,138
[quote]Just proof scientists don`t know half of what they think they do. Hundreds of years ago, scientists were CERTAIN the world was flat and the Earth was the center of the universe. Keep up the good work, geniuses.[/quote]
Aw, you failed science class. No biggie, we still love ya.
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Female 249
As for no evidence, if you want to exclude maps from such evidence there is still literature describing such things. Using the Chinese example again, here is a passage from the

"Heaven takes its body from the Yang, so it is round and in motion. earth takes its body from the Yin, so it is flat and quiescent"

Zhang Heng`s cosmogony (Although not recent, its a good one to show literary descriptions)

Interestingly enough, some Chinese scholars calculated that the earth was flat, but bulging upwards.
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Female 249
Angilion, China until the 17th century (with the introduction of western sea based astronomy) did believe the earth was flat. :\

Thats pretty modern for such an ancient beleif.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Yeah, so many years ago people thought the world was flat[/quote]

While your main point is right, there`s no evidence of people in the past thinking the world was flat.

There are some ancient depictions of a flat world, but it`s not known whether they reflect belief in a flat world, are a symbolic/religious depiction of the world or simply reflect the fact that art had not yet developed far enough to make any attempt at depicting a 3D object on a 2D surface.

Certainly everyone has known the world isn`t flat at least as far back as the beginning of recorded history. The size of the Earth was first measured about 2400 years ago. Erastothenes...bah, I`m going to have to look it up now.

Eratosthenes, about 2250 years ago. I was close.
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Male 511
Pluto is just an icy piece of garbage. It`s not worth distinction as a planet.
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Female 1,515
@BostonKaiser The great thing about science is that our understanding of the world evolves and changes over time as we incorporate new discoveries into our basis of knowledge. Yeah, so many years ago people thought the world was flat...they also used to think sperm contained little men, and that if an animal stretched its neck enough it would elongate and be passed onto its offspring. Now we don`t. How is that a bad thing?
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Male 2,422
They should call it a "planette" da dum tish!
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Male 12,365
[quote]Just proof scientists don`t know half of what they think they do. Hundreds of years ago, scientists were CERTAIN the world was flat and the Earth was the center of the universe. Keep up the good work, geniuses.[/quote]

You`re just burbling against science. Either you have no idea what you`re talking about or you`re lying as propaganda.

If you think I`m being unfair to you, prove your claims. Show me all those scientists who were CERTAIN that the world was flat. Here`s a free clue - there never were any, not even one.

You`re on slightly stronger ground with geocentrism, but (a) it matched observations pretty well and (b) the first natural philosopher (`scientist` is a much later word) known to have argued against it was Aristarchus of Samos in 270 BC, who correctly argued that the sun was the centre of the solar system.

The people who were CERTAIN that the Earth is the centre of the universe were the Christian authorities, not scientists.
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Male 215
To those of you claiming that Pluto is a planet, I challenge you to give a definition of "planet" such that:

1) The eight currently accepted planets fit the definition,
2) Pluto fits the definition,
3) the other 4 dwarf planets and 60+ dwarf planet candidates do not fit the definition, and
4) the definition is natural. That is, it doesn`t make arbitrary distinctions just to satisfy 1-3.
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Male 619
My bad, I know better than to respond before reading the source. :P Last I`d heard they thought it might not be the largest object, I didn`t know that had changed.
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Male 619
Astronomers aren`t even sure that Pluto is the largest object out around its distance. However, it is made up of a large amount of materials that reflect light really well, making it easier to see that most of its neighbors.

Science has to be able to reclassify things based on new information, and that goes for EVERYTHING. Science that ignores facts in favor of sentimentality is not science.
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Male 2,402
Poor Pluto! We should be ashamed of such discrimination of this mere outcast of a planet. Just because Pluto is not in the normal planetary clique of the inner most eight. I mean come on look at it! It`s lonely all all by itself. Come home Pluto I still love you. Please no more discrimination.
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Male 3,646
I`m glad Pluto is no longer a planet. It makes Gustasf Holst`s suite entitled `The Planets` complete!

No I personally would call it a dwarf planet as long as it is still a planet.
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Male 74
"Just proof scientists don`t know half of what they think they do. Hundreds of years ago, scientists were CERTAIN the world was flat and the Earth was the center of the universe. Keep up the good work, geniuses."

You do realise we still haven`t got a clear photo of pluto and its demotion was based on an estimation of size; then again you probaly didn`t.
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I believe in keeping Pluto as dwarf
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Female 3,001
@BostonKaiser
people didnt all think the world was flat, that hasn`t been believed for a very long time.
i know it wikipedia but heres one source
and heres another more reliable source

also i dont think you have any right to diss scientists, who work hard all their life to bring in new discoveries, for what is not a lot of pay.
also i hope ur not just trolling, which i know could be the case, but i thought i would present the facts just in case
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Male 1,226
"Just proof scientists don`t know half of what they think they do. Hundreds of years ago, scientists were CERTAIN the world was flat and the Earth was the center of the universe. Keep up the good work, geniuses."

No. Any real scientist wouldn`t say that. At best it would be "We`re fairly sure ZYX", just like scientists say now.
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Male 2,788
who cares?
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Male 25,416
If its bigger than you it should be a planet, thats the safest way to view it!
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Male 15,510
Well Pluto IS a planet, a dwarf planet, so the deal is not if Pluto should be a planet or not but if it should be a Dwarf planet or a Inner planet
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Male 12
@BostonKaiser

And you know more stuff, better then they do for some reason?
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Male 1,218
Just proof scientists don`t know half of what they think they do. Hundreds of years ago, scientists were CERTAIN the world was flat and the Earth was the center of the universe. Keep up the good work, geniuses.
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Male 2,056
f*ck it guys, just make it a planet and go on exploring the rest of space
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Male 422
@freelop

Therefore, Pluto is not a planet.
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Female 281
Pluto has been an important part of our culture. Making it a "dwarf planet" just insults all the culture concerning it. -.-
Pluto IS and SHOULD BE a planet. So give it back it`s title!
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Male 5,189
It will always be one to me because of this.


M.y V.ery E.ager M.other J.ust S.erved U.s N.ine P.izzas. We need Pluto for the P!!
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Female 1,589
Yes it should be considered a planet, cause I`m a Scorpio, and Scorpio`s planet is Pluto. When it got demoted I was pissed cause I no longer had a planet to go with my sign.
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Male 620
Pluto is not a planet. Sorry to crush everyones dreams.
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Male 442
If pluto isn`t a real planet then midgets aren`t real people.
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Male 257
madest it`s not so much the size as the distance and plane of it`s orbit
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Male 3,331
"If it`s not a planet then why is mercury a planet?" Because Mercury has cleared it`s orbit, and Pluto has not. I think they should define a planet the same way here as they do for other systems. Imagine being on a planet in another system and searching for a planet by watching the Sun wobble. If it makes it wobble, it`s a planet.
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Male 558
one more vote for adding the moniker of "dwarf" to Pluto`s planet status...
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Male 7,378
Pluto is a planet. It has 3 moons, is in orbit around the Sun. If it`s not a planet then why is mercury a planet? Mercury is only 400km wider in diameter than Pluto and Mercury has no moons. Def a planet.
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Male 7,123
Dwarf planet? Planet of small stature, surely.
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Male 1,222
Its a dog, mickeys best friend
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Male 2,121
Damn Sloth of Doom, you beat me to it.

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Male 2,548
*sigh* So let`s just say that it`s acceptable to call Pluto a large dwarf or a small planet.

The end.
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Male 39,902
size issues
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Male 564
"Okay, having a degree in physics and astronomy, my learned opinion is, who gives a rat`s @$$?"

that
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Male 2,033
As SMBC points out today....


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Male 15,832
Okay, having a degree in physics and astronomy, my learned opinion is, who gives a rat`s @$$?
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Male 421
hells yeah, pluto should be a planet. those dam scientists, lying and sh*t! :)

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Female 48
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