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  1. Profile photo of Kim...
    Kim... Female 13-17
    539 posts
    November 1, 2010 at 4:15 pm
    Link: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet - Jim Swilley, the pastor of a Georgia megachurch has publicly announced he is gay on his own terms. Pretty big news, no?
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 4:21 pm
    Kudos sir!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 1, 2010 at 4:22 pm
    Wow. A preacher who sucks dick. You don`t see that every day.

    Oh wait, yes you do.
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    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 4:24 pm
    no. i couldn`t care less
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    WHOISIT12345 Male 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 4:32 pm
    what ruthless1990 said....
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    Fleaman1797 Male 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 4:39 pm
    Wow, a pastor who isn`t FULL OF poo? CAN IT BE?!
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    jak22 Male 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 4:41 pm
    props to put his reputation on the line for other people.
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    Swaywithme Female 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 4:44 pm
    Good for him! <3 It is so difficult for someone to come out- I can`t even imagine being someone in this kind of religious community- let alone a pastor and trying to do it.

    Hope he realizes that for every extremist calling him a monster online- there are 10 with their head on straight that wish him the best!

    Congrats on publicly liking peen!
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    hatface Male 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 4:48 pm
    I also echo ruthless1990`s couldn`t care less-ery
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    TxP Female 70 & Over
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    November 1, 2010 at 4:50 pm
    Big news? no, but I certainly am glad that he had the strength to do it, for the right reasons as well :)
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    November 1, 2010 at 4:54 pm
    Fair play to the man, much respect. Must have taken a lot of courage.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 1, 2010 at 4:59 pm
    his wife is like the ultimate Fag Hag
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 1, 2010 at 5:01 pm
    Hmmm, I am indifferent about this mans` sexuality. However... I wonder whose rally he thinks was bigger... Stewart or Becks??

    That`s the important thing to take away here.
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    Dolomyte Male 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 5:22 pm
    splurby silly man
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 1, 2010 at 5:30 pm
    Big News? no.
    At least he came out before he got caught, otherwise what @ruthless1990 said...
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    November 1, 2010 at 5:32 pm
    Gawd how many of these men have deceived so many for so long in order to secure wealth for themselves.
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    TheBLB Male 18-29
    239 posts
    November 1, 2010 at 5:47 pm
    "Gawd how many of these men have deceived so many for so long in order to secure wealth for themselves."

    Yep, Pastors. The richest people driving used minivans, EVER.

    Did you even watch? He didn`t take any money and run. He just decided to come out of the closet to help some people. Ughhh.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    November 1, 2010 at 5:48 pm
    Wow, that is odd!
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    Reganom Male 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 5:52 pm
    "Congrats on publicly liking peen! "

    Best quote of my day.

    OT: Glad he had the courage to do this, and hopefully it will all be OK.
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 6:02 pm
    If you have followed me on here, you know I am supportive of equal rights for all. I`m saying this because I don`t want my question to be seen as a negative "gay-bashing" thing. It`s an honest question.

    Is "coming out" going to be an event in ones life? Like a bar mitzvah or some other coming of age thing?
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    rainbowfarts Female 18-29
    798 posts
    November 1, 2010 at 6:04 pm
    kudos to him and coming out on his own accord and recognizing it`s a feeling he`s had all his life instead of being caught with a male prostitute or something and claiming he has a "sickness".
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    Reganom Male 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 6:05 pm
    @HalfPintRoo,

    This is speculation `cos i`m not gay so never "come out". But i think it would be a pretty big deal. If you`ve kept a part of yourself hidden from family and friends, had to hide who you are and how you feel. Working up the courage and even admitting to yourself. Then i think "coming out" is quite a big deal.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 1, 2010 at 6:07 pm
    I bet the church bullies beat the crap out of him behind the church later that same day.
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    krakalacka Male 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 6:08 pm
    i think its great that he did that, he sticking up for what is right; equality, its so sad to see that people are being pushed into suicide because of constant ridicule. Why do so many care about what sexual preference a person has? that is their decision and we, as human beings, should respect that in the civilized world we live in today.
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    dreadqueen00 Female 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 6:11 pm
    How does a church become a "megachurch?" Do a lot of little churches join together to become some massive conglomeration of devil-bustin` churchiness? Like a transformer?

    Props to the pastor, in any event. I know it couldn`t have been easy for him.
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    belunan Male 30-39
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    November 1, 2010 at 6:13 pm
    "Wow. A preacher who sucks dick. You don`t see that every day.

    Oh wait, yes you do."

    LMFAO
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    SlothOfDoom Male 30-39
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    November 1, 2010 at 6:16 pm
    Hes been gay ever since HIS preacher taught him to be.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    November 1, 2010 at 6:22 pm
    I don`t think it matters. Christians aren`t hearing this.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 6:22 pm
    Surprise!
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    moefreak Female 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 6:24 pm
    I really admire him for his courage. This is a good man right here, using his position of power to save lives and help people even at great cost to himself.
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    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 6:41 pm
    When he almost started crying, I actually said out loud: I don`t want to see your bitch tears. Man UP!

    That makes me a bad LGBT/person in general. I`m not sure what came over me...
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    November 1, 2010 at 6:53 pm
    @TheBLB.
    If he was so honest why didn`t he proclaim his homosexuality to begin with . Before deceiving people out of tithes for building his church and providing his living.

    He`s been dishonest with his fellow men. The hell with him like Swaggert, Baker, Hinn, Catholic priests, etc... Bunch of hypocrites period.
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    Moosh Female 18-29
    196 posts
    November 1, 2010 at 7:00 pm
    Is a megachurch like a super Stop & Shop?

    And Gerry--I see what you are trying to do. Inject some rarely acknowledged humor in this post full of warm fuzziness. I see it. I see it and I give you internet hugs for it.
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    joosen52 Male 18-29
    206 posts
    November 1, 2010 at 7:10 pm
    Very admirable. I hope his church`s attendance doesn`t suffer because of this.
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    simim23 Female 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 7:15 pm
    Hey, this is pretty cool. At the same time, why did he get married and have kids if he knew he was gay from the start?

    Although, I can see a man who is attracted to men but still wants children doing this. Smart move, actually.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 1, 2010 at 7:47 pm
    Hey, this is pretty cool. At the same time, why did he get married and have kids if he knew he was gay from the start?

    Suggestions:

    i) A cover story. An established, well known and obviously popular pastor (look at the size of his church) might be able to be openly gay and carry on. An unknown gay pastor trying to establish a church in the 1980s? No.

    ii) Trying to choose to be straight. Plenty of homosexual people do. It can`t be done, of course, but many try.

    iii) He`s actually bisexual. Quite likely, as he has 4 children.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    November 1, 2010 at 7:52 pm
    Is "coming out" going to be an event in ones life? Like a bar mitzvah or some other coming of age thing?

    It depends on the individual and the circumstances. It can be a big deal, a non-event or anything in between.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    November 1, 2010 at 8:02 pm
    Does that make him Mega-Gay?
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 1, 2010 at 8:27 pm
    "Is "coming out" going to be an event in ones life? Like a bar mitzvah or some other coming of age thing?"

    I am not gay, but I have this crazy ability to pay attention to feelings. From what I understand `coming out` is just as personal or even more so (because of current unfortunate social implications) as losing virginity or going through puberty, etc.

    That`s why that poor college kid offed himself when some asshat decided to out him publicly. He wasn`t ready for that. It happens more than we actually hear about and it is a big, big deal.

    I think the U.S. would be a better place if everyone realized a few things--one of which: Gays = not going away... ever.

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    jak22 Male 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 8:35 pm
    angilion- he`s most likely not bisexual. bi sexuality is actually extremely rare, despite popular belief, as sexuality is more of a spectrum then 3 set orientations. the most common are gay and strait, and bisexuality is in between, along with asexuality. many say they are bisexual but are really just trying to be somewhat "normal" as homosexuality is still unfortuantly somewhat shunned in our culture.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 8:40 pm
    Oh, the times they are a-changin`, eh folks? Pretty soon the day will come when every Christian will look back at all the fuss about homosexuality and think "What was the big deal? People are gay. So what?"
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 9:02 pm
    I just don`t understand what the big deal is with this. (not people having the courage to come to terms with who they are, I mean to those who still think "zomg he`s gay!?!!1!)

    How is it hurting you? Your neighbor is gay, so what, your property value goes down?? GET OVER IT and go make a pie or something else to focus on.
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    Ryan22158 Male 18-29
    418 posts
    November 1, 2010 at 9:04 pm
    Yeah I`m gonna say his church is going to leave. Unless it`s a unity church. However, I don`t think it is. On a side note that one church sign they showed was awesomely nineties.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    November 1, 2010 at 9:12 pm
    Indeed Poop. You`ll enjoy/remember this clip.

    http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=52123
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    Swaywithme Female 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 9:16 pm
    "It depends on the individual and the circumstances. It can be a big deal, a non-event or anything in between. "

    It`s true! Sometimes it`s something someone struggles hard to come to grip with and sometimes...? well to quote Glee,

    "Kurt, I knew you were gay when for your third birthday you asked for a pair of sensible heels"
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    Heureux Male 40-49
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    November 1, 2010 at 9:20 pm
    "he`s most likely not bisexual. bi sexuality is actually extremely rare, despite popular belief, as sexuality is more of a spectrum then 3 set orientations. the most common are gay and strait, and bisexuality is in between, along with asexuality."

    That`s not what current and past research indicates. The bulk of research indicates that bisexuality is probably the most common orientation, though people may chose to only identify or act on their opposite sex or same-sex attraction, and that true heterosexuality - 100% attracted to the opposite gender, and true homosexuality - 100% attracted to the same gender, are the rarer ends of the continuum.

    Its a bell curve.

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    tatripp Male 18-29
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    November 1, 2010 at 9:21 pm
    I don`t think being gay is bad, but i do think the "church of now" is stupid and sounds like they are all moral relativists.
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    frylock Female 13-17
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    November 1, 2010 at 9:29 pm
    I live in Georgia. I think I`ve seen that place before.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    November 1, 2010 at 9:35 pm
    Handys003 said: "If he was so honest why didn`t he proclaim his homosexuality to begin with . Before deceiving people out of tithes for building his church and providing his living.

    He`s been dishonest with his fellow men. The hell with him like Swaggert, Baker, Hinn, Catholic priests, etc... Bunch of hypocrites period."

    Hanndy, normally I might agree with your opinion, except I watched a good portion of the hour-plus video where he explained how he has never preached hate like the others you mention...I did some research
    and I believe him. There is no evidence that he`s a right-winger.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    November 1, 2010 at 9:52 pm
    As long as this dude never preached hate against homosexuality, then I say he`s a good guy. A quick google showed me no such bias. This is a courageous man who has not tried to condemn anyone, best I can tell, and good luck to him. God knows he`ll have to face enough prejudice from his own flock.
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    Salted_Eggs Male 18-29
    774 posts
    November 1, 2010 at 10:22 pm
    "It`s odd how so many Fundamentalist Christians carry on eating pork while going on about God hating gay people."
    -Stephen Fry
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 1, 2010 at 11:50 pm
    angilion- he`s most likely not bisexual. bi sexuality is actually extremely rare, despite popular belief, as sexuality is more of a spectrum then 3 set orientations. the most common are gay and strait, and bisexuality is in between, along with asexuality.

    You say sexuality is a spectrum rather than 3 seperate groups, but you talk in terms of those three groups.

    Absolutely 50/50 bisexuality might well be very rare, but some degree of bisexuality isn`t. Any point on that spectrum apart from the very ends of it could be considered bisexual.

    many say they are bisexual but are really just trying to be somewhat "normal" as homosexuality is still unfortuantly somewhat shunned in our culture.

    And bisexuality is shunned more, except for women in some circumstances.
  53. Profile photo of number43
    number43 Male 70 & Over
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    November 2, 2010 at 12:06 am
    Good for him.

    The Bible does say that you`re not supposed to be gay. But it also says you shouldn`t get a tattoo or have sex out of marriage or on and on. We all violate the rules set forth in The Bible, whether you believe them or not. Believing them doesn`t make it any easier to follow. I`m a conservative guy I suppose, but I don`t understand why we have decided that being gay is worse than all the other sins that we all commit. So, good for this guy for being honest about it.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    November 2, 2010 at 12:12 am
    Well, good for him. It may have taken a while, but he has `come out` - I hope he gets support and that his congregation stand by him. I am sure that he feels easier ow this is out, and lets hope this helps in the way he wants.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 2, 2010 at 12:18 am
    The Bible does say that you`re not supposed to be gay.

    Even that`s not entirely certain. It is possible to translate and interpret it differently.

    But it also says you shouldn`t get a tattoo or have sex out of marriage or on and on. We all violate the rules set forth in The Bible, whether you believe them or not. Believing them doesn`t make it any easier to follow. I`m a conservative guy I suppose, but I don`t understand why we have decided that being gay is worse than all the other sins that we all commit.

    Indeed. There are no end of things in the OT that are also described as to`ebah or otherwise forbidden. Mixing meat and dairy. Shaving. Cutting your hair. Wearing clothes of two materials. etc, etc. 613 rules...why only pay attention to 1 of them?
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    Necromantrix Female 18-29
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    November 2, 2010 at 12:45 am
    I agree with madduck on this one.
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    NDLOgan Male 30-39
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    November 2, 2010 at 12:48 am
    Good for you. I`ll teach you the secret handshake later...
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    November 2, 2010 at 12:59 am
    I am a chritian and before anyone starts in on me I have no issue with gay people...and I dont understand why other christian have such a huge issue with them at all.

    the bible lays forth rules for plenty of things that YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO DO, and yet many of you Christians do them anyway, from lustful thoughts, to greed to gluttony, adultery and so on and so forth.

    so, tell me, who are you to sit in judgment of someone for being gay when you, yes you the person reading this, are guilty of your own sins?

    God tells us that a SIN IS A SIN. So, get your own poo in order before you slam someone else for theirs.

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    bryantm3 Male 18-29
    179 posts
    November 2, 2010 at 1:09 am
    i drive by this place on my way to covington and east GA. you just take i-20 east of atlanta and the sign is huge.

    props to this guy for not being like all the other gay pastors who end up in a scandal. this guy just went up on my awesome rating.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    November 2, 2010 at 1:33 am
    Cool dude in many ways.
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    November 2, 2010 at 5:16 am
    they really need to rephrase that ending, she clearly just said if people leave his church HE probably won`t survive it but he`ll start over

    so place your bets, is he starting over in heaven or hell?
  62. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 2, 2010 at 5:59 am
    "God tells us that a SIN IS A SIN. So, get your own poo in order before you slam someone else for theirs."

    And therein lies most of what Atheists have the big problem with. That and zealotry. The fact that (it seems) an overwhelming majority of religious people allow their zealotry to replace simple logic is infuriating. It sets a tone and fear of society regressing.

    I don`t think most people would have any problems with a religious person peacefully practicing their faith and keeping it to themselves. Hell, my Sister is just that kind of person. She goes to church, prays and is faithful, but she doesn`t act like an effing virus about it. Therefore (as an atheist) I have zero problems with her and can feel comfortable discussing topics.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 2, 2010 at 6:05 am
    "God tells us that a SIN IS A SIN. So, get your own poo in order before you slam someone else for theirs."

    "And therein lies most of what Atheists have the big problem with. That and zealotry."

    To clarify: I think Atheists (and others of course) have the big problem with both zealots and/or hipocrits.

    In this case it is good to see someone coming to their senses and admitting their hipocracy in the face of strong adversity. Shows integrity. I would attend his church to show my support for (not the religion aspect) this type of thinking.
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    pmarren Male 40-49
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    November 2, 2010 at 6:11 am
    Another homo with a deep desire to tell everyone about it. Nobody gives a s#it anymore. Shut the hell up and go do some work or something.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 2, 2010 at 6:51 am
    @Pmarren: Well, I think a lot of people do care and have a right to know. A mega church has thousands of members all who give money and time to the congregation. They have a right to know what sort of man is running the organization they subscribe to. Much like stock shareholders have a right to know what sort of person the CEO of Microsoft is. Etc.
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    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    November 2, 2010 at 7:23 am
    "And bisexuality is shunned more, except for women in some circumstances."

    This is an interesting concept. As a completely `out` bisexual woman who has dated both men and women... I have seen the two most common stereotypes over and over: the straight guy who thinks that my personal life with my girlfriend is right out of a porno. And then the lesbian who hates bisexual women because they are dramatic and slutty.

    And then there`s the people who think that I should just make up my mind already, or that I`m just looking for attention... or that it`s just a phase, etc etc.

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    pumba62 Male 40-49
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    November 2, 2010 at 7:36 am
    This man finally came to understand what he has been preaching most of his life, and has finally learned what integrity and being true to oneself is all about.
    You can`t be truthful to others if you aren`t truthful to yourself
    I commend you sir for having the courage to come forth anf admit who you truly are.
    I also commend your Wife for leaving you for not admitting who you are, so deep was her love for him that she left him so that he would be forced to face up to his destiny.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    November 2, 2010 at 7:41 am
    Some day this won`t be considered news. Hopefully I will live to see that day.
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    November 2, 2010 at 7:50 am
    I can honestly say this does not affect me in the least.
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    AtheistAlien Male 30-39
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    November 2, 2010 at 8:23 am
    when will get it? stop reporting useless crap about religion. stop giving them the respect they do not deserve. they are a bunch of liars and child molesters who try to hide behind a fairy tale and we glorify them and treat them with the utmost respect. WTF?
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    edana42 Female 50-59
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    November 2, 2010 at 8:23 am
    I`m gay on my own terms too!!! I just do guys.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 2, 2010 at 9:07 am
    "And then there`s the people who think that I should just make up my mind already, or that I`m just looking for attention... or that it`s just a phase, etc etc."

    I find that people who tell others how to live their sex lives tend to think themselves as great lovers... but then I always find out their relationships suck.

    When people try to tell me stuff like this I shut them down immediately. You seem the type that would do the same.
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    ForAllThSin Male 18-29
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    November 2, 2010 at 10:00 am
    OK FANCYLAD and all other LIBTARDS, here`s the question.

    Do you hate him for being a pastor or love him because he`s gay??

    tough choice for you isn`t it?
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    November 2, 2010 at 10:21 am
    OK FANCYLAD and all other LIBTARDS, here`s the question.

    Do you hate him for being a pastor or love him because he`s gay??

    tough choice for you isn`t it?
    I have an idea, ForAllThSin. Let`s forget any hatred for pastors and love for gays; let`s all just focus on hating you for being an a$$hole. Sound good?
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    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    November 2, 2010 at 10:47 am
    splurbyburbl: Word.
    I also think that some people forget that we are not all looking at the world through the same eyes. Sometimes it`s hard to imagine that every single person has a different and complex view on life, love and sexuality.
    When people question my `gayness`, sometimes I get offended... but what I SHOULD do is try to keep in mind that they are only trying to understand me. And that`s okay. Finding out what makes somebody `tick` helps people find common ground and compassion in each other.
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    Amurika Male 30-39
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    November 2, 2010 at 10:57 am
    He needs some Fred Phelps in his life. lol
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    November 2, 2010 at 11:53 am
    Pooptart19

    Sounds good to me.
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    Zebrameat Male 13-17
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    November 2, 2010 at 12:13 pm
    Why can´t all the gay priest in the world hook up?
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    November 2, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Indeed. There are no end of things in the OT that are also described as to`ebah or otherwise forbidden. Mixing meat and dairy. Shaving. Cutting your hair. Wearing clothes of two materials. etc, etc. 613 rules...why only pay attention to 1 of them?
    Haven`t you heard? Jesus made a New Covenant when he died for our sins. Which for some reason applies to everything except homosexuality.
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    Wai-Yu Female 13-17
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    November 2, 2010 at 2:08 pm
    probably the coolest, bravest pastor ever. Probably.
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    Katalyst13 Female 18-29
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    November 2, 2010 at 3:13 pm
    It is okay for a priest to be gay. I used to go to a religious school and this was a big discussion.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    November 2, 2010 at 4:36 pm
    DixxyRarr, do you get the assumption that you`re not going to be faithful in a monogamous relationship? I get that one quite often. It seems common to think that bisexual people can`t be monogamous because they`re going to going out with or at least having sex with at least 1 man and 1 woman at any given time.

    I think in general it comes down to the age old "not like us" thing, with bisexuals being "not like us" to both homosexuals and heterosexuals. Hence my comment about being shunned more. Except for bisexual women in some circumstances, circumstances which you succinctly summed up as "thinks my personal life with my girlfriend is right out of a porno." Sexual appeal trumps "not like us".
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    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    November 2, 2010 at 6:09 pm
    Angilion: Yes, absolutely. I`ve gotten that assumption from both men and women. "Not like us" is definitely a good way to put it. People are scared of what`s different and what they don`t understand.
    **shrugs** They probably always will be :)
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    daninicki Female 18-29
    185 posts
    November 2, 2010 at 10:13 pm
    I`m elated that this has happened. I wish I could shake that man`s hand. I`m not a Christian, and this gives me hope that Christians are not going to destroy the world, as I have predicted.

    Just a question: Why would a just God create gay people then demand his followers to hate them? Something just doesn`t seem right about that.

    One more: Why do the same people who insist that a man and woman be married to love each other, refuse to let a gay couple marry, no matter how much they love each other?

    I have no agenda. I really just wonder at these things.
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    mac_24_seven Male 18-29
    86 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 8:55 am
    "
    Just a question: Why would a just God create gay people then demand his followers to hate them? Something just doesn`t seem right about that."

    The answer is so simple.. He didn`t. He created Adam and Eve and told them to fill the earth (make lots of babies). (Gen 1:28) Sadly, they sinned before any children were born, so we inherited the sin through Adam/Eve.

    Think of it like a dented cake pan: All cakes made using that pan will be dented. Same with us: We all inherited a dent from our parents, which is the dent is sin.

    And you are not suppose to hate anybody. Love not only your neighbor, but enemy. (Matthew 5:44) It`s wrong to judge anybody because it`s not our place to do so (Matthew 7:1,2) but will be Jesus place. (Matthew 25:32)
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    To answer your 2nd question:

    Quite simply, we were not made to be with the same sex. The whole idea is to reproduce and "fill the earth" like he told Adam/Eve to do. Thats the
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    B-b-beccah Female 18-29
    668 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 9:53 am
    Bravo pastor. Bravo. Respect.
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    Isafan Male 18-29
    243 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 9:54 am
    A QUEER IN GA!? OH HELL NO! RALLY MEETIN TIME
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    SmilinSam Female 18-29
    3599 posts
    November 4, 2010 at 6:40 pm
    "Quite simply, we were not made to be with the same sex. The whole idea is to reproduce and "fill the earth" like he told Adam/Eve to do."

    ok, and what happens when the earth is full? the best and most logical reasoning i`ve ever heard when it comes to the genetics/choice debate, is that it is displayed not only in humans, but in all species across the globe. so i guess all those animals are just choosing wrong huh?Here is an article describing homosexual behavior in a variety of animals

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    8BitHero Male 18-29
    5414 posts
    December 15, 2010 at 2:59 pm
    Good for him.

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