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59 Responses to Iceland Elects Ordinary Folk To Draft Constitution

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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 11:27 am
    Link: Iceland Elects Ordinary Folk To Draft Constitution - For the first time in history a nations constitution will be written by direct democracy.
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:11 pm
    I like the idea. I read the story but they are electing a group or assembly. I don`t know how much of a direct democracy that is? Sounds like a representative democracy, but I could be wrong. I also didn`t see how the final draft of the their new constitution was to be approved? By direct vote? or?

    This I found interesting, "..the final number to be determined by a gender and equality ratio". Very PC but not really true direct democracy? What if they were to vote in all white hetero females?

    Also, whenever a regular person here runs for office he/she is painted as not being qualified by the US media. Not being intelligent enough to represent us. Wonder why that is?

    Good story, thanks for the link.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:17 pm
    "Icelandic society were decayed and that a sweeping revision of the social framework was needed."

    and exactly how do you legeslate a "social framework"?
    require marriage and family?
    what do you prohibit?

    It`s a frozen wasteland and Denmark was glad to be rid of it, I`m sure.
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    paradix Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:21 pm
    I live in Iceland and I didn`t even know about this!
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:21 pm
    >>Icelanders woke up to the harsh fact that their country, which had consistently been at or near the top of the Transparency International anti-corruption index, was, in fact, steeped in corruption.


    This is how it always happens. Bankers are crooks.
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:21 pm
    Yeah, that`s definitely a representative democracy... not a direct democracy...

    Anyway... if there`s any corruption at all in Iceland, most of it is not in the government. It`s in the people.
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:22 pm
    Uh... Gerry... only about 18-20% of Iceland is frozen.
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:29 pm
    If you live in Iceland and didn`t know about it... it`s probably not happening.

    The article does look pretty fake, especially given the (incomplete) caption under the image.
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:32 pm
    Yep, BBC says nothing, IceNews says nothing. It`s very likely fake.
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    paradix Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:36 pm
    I know that there is some election thing going on here this weekend, but I don`t know the details... I`m politically retarded, I never pay attention to this stuff, I don`t even watch the news so I can`t really tell you if it`s fake or not...
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:40 pm
    I`m not sure why only two news sources would know about such a thing. It seems rather important.
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    tenty Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:46 pm
    Population of 300,000 Does it even matter who makes decisions...
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:46 pm
    tenty, you realize that Iceland is one of the greatest countries that exists today? It couldn`t possibly be such a great country without proper leadership.
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    paradix Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:50 pm
    okay, I just asked a friend about this and he told me that yea, it`s real... but it doesn`t seem like such a huge deal cause we`re so few here. I actually didn`t even read the whole thing cause it`s semi gibberish to me anyway.
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:56 pm
    By "we`re so few" did you mean your town or Iceland as a whole?

    I know the US doesn`t care about Iceland, but I figured it`d be in BBC.
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    tenty Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:56 pm
    Greatest country? Last time I checked their banks caved in, chopped ALL of their trees down and ruined my last holiday with a cloud of ash.
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 12:59 pm
    Yes. That happened. And it was STILL better than 90% of the countries in the world.

    Though, I suppose "better" is subjective... if you`re extremely conservative, which I doubt given that you`re atheist, it`s a bad country.
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    cellis1 Male 40-49
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    November 26, 2010 at 1:00 pm
    Not fake. I Googled it and it came up on the A.P. and the Guardian.


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    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 1:00 pm
    BTW... ALL that was caused by global warming, not government corruption.
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 1:01 pm
    cellis, this article IS the AP, and I have never heard of the Guardian. But yeah, we know now it`s not fake.
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    paradix Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 1:01 pm
    I meant Iceland as a whole
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    MechaWolf Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 1:20 pm
    This won`t end well. Like K from Men in Black said, "People are stupid".
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 1:23 pm
    Thats wicked
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2010 at 1:44 pm
    Let the people speak!
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    November 26, 2010 at 1:46 pm
    What a stupid idea!! People are too mindless to think for themselves.

    NEW CONSTITUTION
    Section 13(a)(iii)
    "No teenage daughter shall be out after midnight, and if any guy touches her he should be run out of town, and neighbours shouldn`t be allowed to run around in that skimpy yellow outfit she always wears outside, we all know what her and her men `friends` really get up to in there."
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2010 at 2:05 pm
    might be fun though, to write a constitution.

    Me, I believe in one law only. Don`t harm anyone without just cause.

    If there`s no victim, how can there be a crime? Which is why I`m for legalizing pot and prostitution and gambling, etc.
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    Inter237 Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 2:08 pm
    Honestly I think it will be a little more educated and structured Lionhart.. This is a different idea and I am curious to see how it works out.
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    thubanstar Female 50-59
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    November 26, 2010 at 2:09 pm
    I think it`s an excellent experiment.

    You people concentrate too much on the silliness that gets online. There was a time in this country when ordinary man was treated with a lot more respect by his (and her) fellow ordinaries.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2010 at 3:14 pm
    @Lionhart2

    Yes, just as all the other politicians consisting of doctors, economists, lawyers, etc, etc, etc.......

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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2010 at 3:47 pm
    "There was a time in this country when ordinary man was treated with a lot more respect by his (and her) fellow ordinaries."
    Unless you were black, gay, female, poor, communist, Jewish, Muslim, atheist, over 30, under 60, Russian, Polish, Arabian, Indian, Chinese, Italian, Japanese, Mexican, transgendered, blind, deaf, autistic, in a wheelchair, socialist, pacifist, short, skinny, feminist or comic book fan, then yes, you WERE treated fairly.
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2010 at 3:59 pm
    lol Mr. Negative... Taken out of context and twisted to fit the motive. Ever ask yourself why so many on your list of mistreated came here in the past and continue even to this day?

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    hammerdrop Male 13-17
    199 posts
    November 26, 2010 at 4:19 pm
    @gorgack2000

    You really seem to be grasping for straws their towards the end of your post. Artificially inflating your post hoping no one will read the whole thing to make you look better?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2010 at 4:22 pm
    over 30, under 60
    Well, that includes me! And you, and... everyone! lolz!

    But Iceland IS going to include everyone, yes? So what`s the problem? The only losers are the lawyers, career politicians and lobbyists; sounds good to me!@
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
    1185 posts
    November 26, 2010 at 4:30 pm
    ...How is this a "different" idea?

    People are not going to vote for unqualified people, or if they do, it`s not going to work out. So either way, it`ll fail or it`ll be exactly the same.
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    entwife Female 18-29
    536 posts
    November 26, 2010 at 4:33 pm
    Good for them. Hope it works out for them and that they do it right. Really hoping for a success story here!

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    rbt_food Male 18-29
    322 posts
    November 26, 2010 at 4:52 pm
    well done iceland,
    i wish you nothing but the best!
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    madest Male 40-49
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    November 26, 2010 at 5:53 pm
    Iceland can be thankful that CrakrJak, Tridirk, OldOllie and Cat5 don`t live there.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2010 at 6:20 pm
    @madest, you`re drating stupid, OK?
    Manitoba has MORE Icelandic people than anywhere except Iceland itself! So go dratyourself!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2010 at 6:25 pm
    Oh wait, @madest must be a BIG fan of lawyers, career politicians and lobbyists! Sry man, you`re right! er, Left! Let the "elite" decide for us, the unwashed masses! That`ll work out fine!
    In a pig`s eye...
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    Salted_Eggs Male 18-29
    774 posts
    November 26, 2010 at 7:12 pm
    Never have I ever been so interested in politics.

    I`m going to watch this closely now.
    Also, does anyone in Europe know if Iceland ended up accepting that bailout money?
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    tridirk Male 50-59
    313 posts
    November 26, 2010 at 7:13 pm
    Iceland can be thankful that CrakrJak, Tridirk, OldOllie and Cat5 don`t live there.

    Because we would win the popular vote and the electoral college?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2010 at 7:33 pm
    Oooo! @tridirk, Ghod forbid the majority should decide what gets done! lolz!
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    B-b-beccah Female 18-29
    668 posts
    November 26, 2010 at 7:43 pm
    i like it! power to the people! gotta have faith in the human race.
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 7:48 pm
    Beccah, the original constitution was written by humans as well. What makes you think it`ll be any different? And if it IS any different, what could possibly make it better? Removing the state religion is the only thing I can think of, and that`s only because I`m atheist.
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
    1185 posts
    November 26, 2010 at 7:58 pm
    Oh, BTW:

    "Article 62
    The Evangelical Lutheran Church shall be the State Church in Iceland and, as such, it shall be supported and protected by the State.

    This may be amended by law."

    If it may be amended by law, I don`t see why rewriting the constitution would be necessary.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    November 26, 2010 at 8:01 pm
    I doubt this will turn out well.
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 8:02 pm
    5cats, well if the majority decided what got done, bush would never have been president of the US. sorry, guess i just had to go there.
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2010 at 8:35 pm
    Interesting. I just hope their citizens are smarter than our citizens.
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    tridirk Male 50-59
    313 posts
    November 26, 2010 at 9:32 pm
    cobra.... Nor did Pres Clinton get elected by a majority in 1992. He had the most popular votes but more voters chose other candidates than chose him. He received 43% of the votes, a majority of Americans didn`t vote for him.

    Candidate Party Votes Percentage

    William Clinton Democratic 44,909,806 43.01%
    George Bush Republican 39,104,550 37.45%
    H. Ross Perot Independent 19,743,821 18.91%
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    Ryan016 Male 13-17
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    November 27, 2010 at 3:35 am
    tridirk that is obviously wrong as it adds up to over 100%!!
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    SvampeBob Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2010 at 4:04 am
    I would legalize pot if i were elected
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    rammo34 Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2010 at 4:45 am
    @ryan016 No, it doesn`t. It adds up to 99.37 percent.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    November 27, 2010 at 6:11 am
    @ Tridirk, Of the 3 candidate Bill Clinton received the majority. You can spin it anyway you want but at least he wasn`t appointed by the supreme court. Go back to english class and learn what "majority" means.
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    November 27, 2010 at 7:50 am
    Madest... @ Tridirk, Of the 3 candidate Bill Clinton received the majority. You can spin it anyway you want but at least he wasn`t appointed by the supreme court. Go back to english class and learn what "majority" means. Like many a lib you spin the truth and then accuse the truth of being spin.

    Oh... and

    He was not elected by a majority of voters. AS I said he received the most popular votes. More people voted for someone else than voted for him.

    43% of the voters voted for Der Slickmeister, a majority of 57% voted for other candidates. So he was elected by less than a majority, 50%.

    The facts are the facts.
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2010 at 12:12 pm
    Amazing, you mean the COMMONERS have the ability to Govern!? wHAT *WILL* THE PROLETARIAT DO!?
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    tridirk Male 50-59
    313 posts
    November 27, 2010 at 1:22 pm
    Amazing, you mean the COMMONERS have the ability to Govern!? wHAT *WILL* THE PROLETARIAT DO!? Vote Democrat as usual!
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    ilfg Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2010 at 7:41 pm
    anyone who`s read John Varley knows this isn`t an original concept
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    whocares3725 Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2010 at 11:21 pm
    "...and every Thursday will be free weed, beer, and ice cream day."
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    ROK9 Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 1:20 am
    cool

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