Iceland Elects Ordinary Folk To Draft Constitution

Submitted by: cobrakiller 6 years ago
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101126/ap_on_re_eu/eu_iceland_election

For the first time in history a nations constitution will be written by direct democracy.
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Male 1,834
cool
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Male 310
"...and every Thursday will be free weed, beer, and ice cream day."
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Male 336
anyone who`s read John Varley knows this isn`t an original concept
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Male 313
[quote]Amazing, you mean the COMMONERS have the ability to Govern!? wHAT *WILL* THE PROLETARIAT DO!?[/quote] Vote Democrat as usual!
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Male 3,431
Amazing, you mean the COMMONERS have the ability to Govern!? wHAT *WILL* THE PROLETARIAT DO!?
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Male 313
Madest... [quote]@ Tridirk, Of the 3 candidate Bill Clinton received the majority. You can spin it anyway you want but at least he wasn`t appointed by the supreme court. Go back to english class and learn what "majority" means.[/quote] Like many a lib you spin the truth and then accuse the truth of being spin.

Oh... and

He was not elected by a majority of voters. AS I said he received the most popular votes. More people voted for someone else than voted for him.

43% of the voters voted for Der Slickmeister, a majority of 57% voted for other candidates. So he was elected by less than a majority, 50%.

The facts are the facts.
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Male 7,378
@ Tridirk, Of the 3 candidate Bill Clinton received the majority. You can spin it anyway you want but at least he wasn`t appointed by the supreme court. Go back to english class and learn what "majority" means.
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Male 1,107
@ryan016 No, it doesn`t. It adds up to 99.37 percent.
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Male 3,076
I would legalize pot if i were elected
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Male 6
tridirk that is obviously wrong as it adds up to over 100%!!
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Male 313
cobra.... Nor did Pres Clinton get elected by a majority in 1992. He had the most popular votes but more voters chose other candidates than chose him. He received 43% of the votes, a majority of Americans didn`t vote for him.

Candidate Party Votes Percentage

William Clinton Democratic 44,909,806 43.01%
George Bush Republican 39,104,550 37.45%
H. Ross Perot Independent 19,743,821 18.91%
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Male 2,422
Interesting. I just hope their citizens are smarter than our citizens.
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Male 7,585
5cats, well if the majority decided what got done, bush would never have been president of the US. sorry, guess i just had to go there.
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Male 15,832
I doubt this will turn out well.
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Male 1,184
Oh, BTW:

"Article 62
The Evangelical Lutheran Church shall be the State Church in Iceland and, as such, it shall be supported and protected by the State.

This may be amended by law."

If it may be amended by law, I don`t see why rewriting the constitution would be necessary.
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Male 1,184
Beccah, the original constitution was written by humans as well. What makes you think it`ll be any different? And if it IS any different, what could possibly make it better? Removing the state religion is the only thing I can think of, and that`s only because I`m atheist.
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Female 668
i like it! power to the people! gotta have faith in the human race.
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Male 36,299
Oooo! @tridirk, Ghod forbid the majority should decide what gets done! lolz!
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Male 313
[quote]Iceland can be thankful that CrakrJak, Tridirk, OldOllie and Cat5 don`t live there.[/quote]

Because we would win the popular vote and the electoral college?
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Male 774
Never have I ever been so interested in politics.

I`m going to watch this closely now.
Also, does anyone in Europe know if Iceland ended up accepting that bailout money?
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Male 36,299
Oh wait, @madest must be a BIG fan of lawyers, career politicians and lobbyists! Sry man, you`re right! er, Left! Let the "elite" decide for us, the unwashed masses! That`ll work out fine!
In a pig`s eye...
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Male 36,299
@madest, you`re drating stupid, OK?
Manitoba has MORE Icelandic people than anywhere except Iceland itself! So go dratyourself!
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Male 7,378
Iceland can be thankful that CrakrJak, Tridirk, OldOllie and Cat5 don`t live there.
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Male 322
well done iceland,
i wish you nothing but the best!
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Female 536
Good for them. Hope it works out for them and that they do it right. Really hoping for a success story here!

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Male 1,184
...How is this a "different" idea?

People are not going to vote for unqualified people, or if they do, it`s not going to work out. So either way, it`ll fail or it`ll be exactly the same.
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Male 36,299
[quote]over 30, under 60[/quote]
Well, that includes me! And you, and... everyone! lolz!

But Iceland IS going to include everyone, yes? So what`s the problem? The only losers are the lawyers, career politicians and lobbyists; sounds good to me!@
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Male 199
@gorgack2000

You really seem to be grasping for straws their towards the end of your post. Artificially inflating your post hoping no one will read the whole thing to make you look better?
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Male 313
lol Mr. Negative... Taken out of context and twisted to fit the motive. Ever ask yourself why so many on your list of mistreated came here in the past and continue even to this day?

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Male 4,680
"There was a time in this country when ordinary man was treated with a lot more respect by his (and her) fellow ordinaries."
Unless you were black, gay, female, poor, communist, Jewish, Muslim, atheist, over 30, under 60, Russian, Polish, Arabian, Indian, Chinese, Italian, Japanese, Mexican, transgendered, blind, deaf, autistic, in a wheelchair, socialist, pacifist, short, skinny, feminist or comic book fan, then yes, you WERE treated fairly.
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Male 2,402
@Lionhart2

Yes, just as all the other politicians consisting of doctors, economists, lawyers, etc, etc, etc.......

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Female 836
I think it`s an excellent experiment.

You people concentrate too much on the silliness that gets online. There was a time in this country when ordinary man was treated with a lot more respect by his (and her) fellow ordinaries.
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Male 2,441
Honestly I think it will be a little more educated and structured Lionhart.. This is a different idea and I am curious to see how it works out.
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Male 37,888
might be fun though, to write a constitution.

Me, I believe in one law only. Don`t harm anyone without just cause.

If there`s no victim, how can there be a crime? Which is why I`m for legalizing pot and prostitution and gambling, etc.
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Male 8,302
What a stupid idea!! People are too mindless to think for themselves.

NEW CONSTITUTION
Section 13(a)(iii)
"No teenage daughter shall be out after midnight, and if any guy touches her he should be run out of town, and neighbours shouldn`t be allowed to run around in that skimpy yellow outfit she always wears outside, we all know what her and her men `friends` really get up to in there."
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Male 25,416
Let the people speak!
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Male 15,510
Thats wicked
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Male 315
This won`t end well. Like K from Men in Black said, "People are stupid".
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Male 143
I meant Iceland as a whole
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Male 1,184
cellis, this article IS the AP, and I have never heard of the Guardian. But yeah, we know now it`s not fake.
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Male 1,184
BTW... ALL that was caused by global warming, not government corruption.
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Male 38
Not fake. I Googled it and it came up on the A.P. and the Guardian.


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Male 1,184
Yes. That happened. And it was STILL better than 90% of the countries in the world.

Though, I suppose "better" is subjective... if you`re extremely conservative, which I doubt given that you`re atheist, it`s a bad country.
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Male 425
Greatest country? Last time I checked their banks caved in, chopped ALL of their trees down and ruined my last holiday with a cloud of ash.
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Male 1,184
By "we`re so few" did you mean your town or Iceland as a whole?

I know the US doesn`t care about Iceland, but I figured it`d be in BBC.
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Male 143
okay, I just asked a friend about this and he told me that yea, it`s real... but it doesn`t seem like such a huge deal cause we`re so few here. I actually didn`t even read the whole thing cause it`s semi gibberish to me anyway.
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Male 1,184
tenty, you realize that Iceland is one of the greatest countries that exists today? It couldn`t possibly be such a great country without proper leadership.
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Male 425
Population of 300,000 Does it even matter who makes decisions...
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Male 1,184
I`m not sure why only two news sources would know about such a thing. It seems rather important.
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Male 143
I know that there is some election thing going on here this weekend, but I don`t know the details... I`m politically retarded, I never pay attention to this stuff, I don`t even watch the news so I can`t really tell you if it`s fake or not...
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Male 1,184
Yep, BBC says nothing, IceNews says nothing. It`s very likely fake.
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Male 1,184
If you live in Iceland and didn`t know about it... it`s probably not happening.

The article does look pretty fake, especially given the (incomplete) caption under the image.
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Male 1,184
Uh... Gerry... only about 18-20% of Iceland is frozen.
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Male 1,184
Yeah, that`s definitely a representative democracy... not a direct democracy...

Anyway... if there`s any corruption at all in Iceland, most of it is not in the government. It`s in the people.
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Male 5,194
>>Icelanders woke up to the harsh fact that their country, which had consistently been at or near the top of the Transparency International anti-corruption index, was, in fact, steeped in corruption.


This is how it always happens. Bankers are crooks.
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Male 143
I live in Iceland and I didn`t even know about this!
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Male 37,888
"Icelandic society were decayed and that a sweeping revision of the social framework was needed."

and exactly how do you legeslate a "social framework"?
require marriage and family?
what do you prohibit?

It`s a frozen wasteland and Denmark was glad to be rid of it, I`m sure.
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Male 313
I like the idea. I read the story but they are electing a group or assembly. I don`t know how much of a direct democracy that is? Sounds like a representative democracy, but I could be wrong. I also didn`t see how the final draft of the their new constitution was to be approved? By direct vote? or?

This I found interesting, "..the final number to be determined by a gender and equality ratio". Very PC but not really true direct democracy? What if they were to vote in all white hetero females?

Also, whenever a regular person here runs for office he/she is painted as not being qualified by the US media. Not being intelligent enough to represent us. Wonder why that is?

Good story, thanks for the link.
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Male 7,585
Link: Iceland Elects Ordinary Folk To Draft Constitution [Rate Link] - For the first time in history a nations constitution will be written by direct democracy.
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