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374 Responses to Hi, My Name Is Jessica And I`m A Mormon

  1. Profile photo of thecranberry
    thecranberry Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:32 pm
    Link: Hi, My Name Is Jessica And I`m A Mormon - Families are forever? Let`s hope not all of them are: Disturbing video of a Mormon mother abusing her adopted son.
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    LtFurpie Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:40 pm
    It puts the lotion in the basket!
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    GhettoNinja Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:41 pm
    I would beat the shiite out of that bitch.



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    SPARTAKITTY Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:41 pm
    Some people should not have kids.
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    danky Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:42 pm
    rotten bitch
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    micthefish Male 30-39
    22 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 3:43 pm
    was bored... now wondering if i came to the right site?
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    Deviros Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:44 pm
    ...ok, i`m sitting here trying to figure out what part of this warrants specifying that she`s a mormon? I mean - really - i see a woman using... interesting methods for torturing, er, i mean disciplining her son, but not once does this indicate that the fact that she`s a mormon is so important...

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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:46 pm
    Someone kill that biatch!!
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    Hiromi Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:47 pm
    AHH! poor little boy! : (
  10. Profile photo of Aquaeous
    Aquaeous Male 18-29
    425 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 3:51 pm
    What a bitch.
  11. Profile photo of SlothOfDoom
    SlothOfDoom Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:51 pm
    Child abuse much?

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    jbwhite Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:52 pm
    There should be formal testing before parents are allowed to have children, measuring iq, psychology, nutrition, etc.

    silly mormons, need to blaze up they do.
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    CurlybackJoe Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:52 pm
    oh my god...
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:54 pm
    As far as abuse goes, we all know there are far worse forms of abuse. (I know a flame war over it will begin here) But, it is abuse nonetheless. I mean we can reference `A Child Called It`, or talk about how the boy is lucky to have a roof and clothes and food; however, it will not escape the fact that there is some serious psycological stress being put upon the child. It is undue and obviously is not working if the child keeps doing the same things.

    I have experience with foster children... extensive experience, and believe me there is a better way to handle what the kid is/is not doing... but this "mom" does not know how.

    Sad really, because there are thousands of kids in the system that are taking abuse and I hate to say it, but this is on the mild side when it comes to the subject.
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    NanGoneBanan Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:54 pm
    Discipline is good for kids but way to take it too far, poor boy :(
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:57 pm
    Woops, I was under the impression that he was a foster child, not adopted from birth. Either way, my opinion stands and still makes sense as it pertains to the subject matter.
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    frEbAsnSuga Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:58 pm
    Ok, when she mentioned hot sauce, I thought it wasn`t a big deal. Two times I have swiped the top of the hot sauce bottle with my finger and put a tiny bit on my daughter`s tongue for swearing. What she did is outrageous. Pouring hot sauce on a child`s tongue can burn them! I don`t see a problem with a tiny dab in extreme situations, but this was uncalled for. Cold showers are also terrible, imagine the emotional damage that this poor child will endure. I just want to hug him. :`(
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    regediT Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:58 pm
    F*cking hell, someone needs to beat the living sh*t out of that bitch
  19. Profile photo of davmor
    davmor Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 3:59 pm
    Put the bitch in an ice bath and force feed her ghost peppers
  20. Profile photo of Metum
    Metum Male 13-17
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:01 pm
    little poo pulled 3 cards man! he had it comin!
    (please mind my sarcasm)
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    poochiesam Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:04 pm
    i watch this when it originally aired on dr phil and im not saying im gunna do this to my kids AT ALL. but the whole time i was waiting for it to get bad and it never got as bad as i thought it would. they made so much hype over it and my parents use to beat me.
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    Ajikan Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:04 pm
    I do agree with some kind of punishment if they really really drat up.
    but this was over the drating top
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    angelo0317 Male 18-29
    331 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 4:05 pm
    Where is Jigsaw when you need him? Darn it Jigsaw, answer you phone!!!
  24. Profile photo of frEbAsnSuga
    frEbAsnSuga Female 18-29
    133 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 4:05 pm
    This makes my heart hurt. I wonder what she does to him when he tells the truth about getting in trouble? It`s one thing to do something wrong, but there has to be some sort of trust between the parent and child about telling the truth. If my daughter gets in trouble and tells me the truth, I`m grateful that she trusts me enough to tell the truth and then her "punishment" is usually time out or a nap for what she did wrong. Enough said with two posts, sorry...
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:09 pm
    Whether or not she is Mormon or her son is adopted is irrelevant.

    The fact of the matter is she`s abusing her child and should be punished accordingly. The child should be removed from the environment and placed in one of MUCH higher standards.
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:12 pm
    that`s what happens when you believe in mormo, the morman god.
  27. Profile photo of Ogen
    Ogen Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:14 pm
    You know... really her actions aren`t that brutal. A cold shower? How cold is it? Hot sauce? How hot? Clearly he doesn`t have a violent reaction to the hot sauce as he would be physically forced to if it was burning hot. And a cold shower never really hurt anyone.

    I think the actually abuse is in the way she is speaking to the kid. It isn`t the actions themselves it is the manner of her speech and how dominating she is. That is emotional abuse. But I wouldn`t call this physical abuse.
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    marci89 Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:24 pm
    I agree with poochiesam this really wasn`t that bad. All together the little boys punishment probably lasted no longer than 10 min. I use to get whooped when i was a kid and i turned out ok. I believe that you shouldn`t if you spare the rod on your kid.
  29. Profile photo of SlothOfDoom
    SlothOfDoom Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:26 pm
    bacon pie, you made me spit beer I laughed so hard.
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    sed8908 Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:27 pm
    She is cleared to adopt a child, yet many gay couples can`t.
    `MERIKA F*CK YEAH!!!!!!
  31. Profile photo of Ru1n
    Ru1n Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:28 pm
    Ohhhh, this is child abuse. Making your kid take a cold shower and eat a little hot sauce.

    For a second there, I thought this video would be something bad. Did nobody other than me and the kid in the video get the hot sauce as a kid? Granted, it was only when I was <11 and when I cursed.
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    ChickODee Female 18-29
    152 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 4:29 pm
    It wasn`t as bad as I thought, but that is still WAY over the top. That is indeed child abuse. I can see this as semi ok for a preteen/younger teen, but what is he, like 4!? Specially since he was ADOPTED. jesus christ... *shakes head*
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    pocketmoron Male 18-29
    191 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 4:31 pm
    What a bitch. Hopefully she`ll get hit by a bus.
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    HolyShiitake Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:37 pm
    omg I would smack the poo out of this lady if I ever met her, I hope the kid murders her when he grows up
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    SeanCM Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:44 pm
    what does this have to do with her being mormon? Oh right, its because a catholic, jewish, muslim or any other religion, mother has never abused her child before...ha
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:46 pm
    I think she needs a mouthful of ghost chili and then a nice long soak in a tank of ice water (like davmor said first).
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    Tommasso1618 Male 13-17
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:46 pm
    i wanna see thsi episode...what do i search
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    andynaylor Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:46 pm
    I`d spit the hot sauce in the bitches eyes. Hopefully it would be Tabasco Habanero or something of a similar strength. That`d teach her a funking lesson.
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    ElMustache Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:49 pm
    That`s a waste of TAPATIO!!!
  40. Profile photo of Tommasso1618
    Tommasso1618 Male 13-17
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:50 pm
    nvm,i finished watching it and saw teh title
  41. Profile photo of Dad4Life
    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:50 pm
    Children must be taught there are consequences to their actions, but that was not punishment, that was darn near torture. She probably publicly speaks out against good old corporal punishment, i.e., a good old swat across the bottom.
  42. Profile photo of FeelTheRide
    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
    515 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 4:51 pm
    @Ru1n: yes this is child abuse; I would NEVER do that to my child. that is like torture. A spanking would be more than sufficient.
    I got spanked when I was a kid. Pouring hot sauce into a 4 year old`s mouth and making them take an ice cold shower is totally unnecessary. Have you ever taken and ice cold shower even as an adult? Probably not, unless you were sweating all day or in extreme heat. Cold showers hurt, and children are MUCH more sensitive to things like than adults are.
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    Tommasso1618 Male 13-17
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:52 pm
    pulling a card is a system many teachers use in grade school. every time they get in trouble in a day, they pull a card. it goes from green to yellow to red, from what i remember.... there MAY have been a blue card if it went past that...not sure

    but a yellow woudl mean you have a minor punishment, red would mean big trouble and a call hoem or somethin....
  44. Profile photo of ElMustache
    ElMustache Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:54 pm
    That little pendejo is lucky.. We used to get the chankla (Hard rubber sandal, or the belt, or if they were in the kitchen la cuchara (big wooden spoon/spatula). None of this "Time out" sh*t. First it was mom who spanked us, and then we`d have to wait in fear for when dad came home and found out. Then it was officially "Sh*t your pants o clock." As a side note, does anyone take dr. phil seriously? Pandering to the pussification of our kids.
  45. Profile photo of krembill
    krembill Male 18-29
    1092 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 4:54 pm
    Wow. I felt so bad about that kid my chest was hurting... Damn bitch
  46. Profile photo of FeelTheRide
    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 4:54 pm
    @SeanCM: The reason that is the title is because when she went on Dr. Phil that`s what she told them. Basically saying, I`m a Mormon and I abuse my child. That`s why it`s called "mommy confessions" If she openly claimed to be a Mormon that`s her problem. She did not have to disclose that information.
  47. Profile photo of GhettoNinja
    GhettoNinja Male 30-39
    886 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 4:54 pm
    I don`t condone this, but yeah..I was forced to take a cold shower as an adult.

    It was Marine Corps boot camp...lol, actually we had to hold our rack mattresses over our head and go through every shower head.

    Boiling hot, then icy cold, boiling hot, then icy cold.

    Fun stuff:D

    But I am an adult and made of much sterner stuff than a four year old.
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    Tommasso1618 Male 13-17
    202 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 4:56 pm
    btw.... moron- i mean mormoms are bat sh*t crazy!!! Seriosuly... their religion is ridiculous, they are super strict, and...and....damn, they are just a stupid bunch.... dont tell my mormom friends i said that, but still....

    well, its not as bad as my aunt and uncle...they are creationists.... HAHAHA! And they homeschool their kids too....creationism + homeschool = something that shouldnt be allowed..... Damn, super religious people are CRAZY MAN!!!
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    scarytropin Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:03 pm
    I believe that anyone who looks at this and thinks that this is real, serious abuse is the person with a problem. Granted, I wouldn`t do the things that she does, but she is not abusing the kid. The punishment does not cause actual physical damage yet cause discomfort, punishments are linked directly and specifically to the boy`s actions (hot sauce for lying, shower for cards), the punishments were not arbitrarily applied (i.e. he knew that getting caught lying would mean hot sauce), and he knew specifically what actions actions would mean no punishment. All of these are hallmarks of punishment that effectively changes behavior. This entire punishment might have lasted no more than 10 minutes, from finding out about it, to hot sauce to shower.
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    WhiteOokami Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:04 pm
    I really don`t think this is that awful. I mean that is very over the top for some kid that age but I would have gladly accepted that as a child instead of getting hit with a hickory branch for 60 seconds, forced to take a shower afterward and grounded for 6 weeks having to study at the table for an hour a day for making a D on a report card. Plus you could use the shower to cool off your mouth from that "awful" hot sauce that a six year old can handle. The kid could also stand really close to the wall and dodge the shower almost completely and his mom would never know.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:05 pm
    It does not pull cards or else it gets the hose again!

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    betardfooser Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:06 pm
    the hot sauce?
  53. Profile photo of Lolboy
    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:07 pm
    elmustache: I understand your need to justify your abuse by claiming that because you got smacked by your parents others should too, but I think parents today are focusing on showing their children why it`s bad to do bad things instead of just making the child fear them solely for dominance.

    Sorry bro, but it`s better this way.
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    thisismary Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:08 pm
    Did you guys notice the hot sauce is already in the bathroom? She stores it in there along with the toothpaste. Is this a regular punishment in their household?
  55. Profile photo of SlothOfDoom
    SlothOfDoom Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:10 pm
    @ scarytropin-

    Hot sauce can cause scarring of the esophagus, long term desensitization of the taste buds and in extreme cases damage the stomach lining of children.

    Immersion in cold water can cause shock or hypothermia easily in a child.

    Children are not fully developed and can be harmed by things that an adult finds merely uncomfortable.

    Either of these punishments is worse than a simple spanking....just because you don;t see the damage doesn`t mean it isn`t there.

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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:11 pm
    Poor kid is gonna hate Mexican food.
  57. Profile photo of c3rv4
    c3rv4 Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:19 pm
    and thats how you create a psychopat that kill`s women in their 40`s.
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    iceblack Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:22 pm
    She needs to get some hot sauce
    up her a$$!!!
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    crazy bitch is crazy
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    EdiMesic Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:27 pm
    Absolutely discusting.

    Monsters are created by other monsters.
    That, forever, will be the motto of bad parenting.
    This wh*re doesn`t realize she`s not just `punishing` her son for the moment but scarring him for life.

    She`s punishing him, and sure it works. For the
    moment. But the psychological damage you inflict
    on your child is extremely hard te reverse.

    A far cousin of mine had a father like this.
    Receiving constant abuse like this as a child.
    He`s 18 now, extremely violent, hates everything
    and everyone, dropped out of school so he could
    afford a place of his own so he didn`t have to life at home anymore.

    It`s sad. THIS is very sad.
    And instead of reporting this women to child-care
    services or whatever the heck Americans have, it`s on Dr. Phil? RLY!? Nothing that hillbilly farmer says can justify/clarify her actions. The woman does not deserve to have children and her son should be taken away from her.
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    IseeingI2I Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:28 pm
    its all good people by 17 that kid is gonna take a kitchen knife and slowly and i mean s l o w l y pay her back and hes gonna say do you know why you are getting this? do you think its alright to permanently damage 6 year olds the way you did? and because he was raised mormon hes gonna carve crosses into her with a nice sharp knife
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    prettymaryk Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:29 pm
    I know people that punish their children with hot sauce, it`s not bad, maybe with the amount she uses though. The serious thing was the shower, the child was screaming in agony. the punishment was far worse than the crime. What a horrible mother.
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    aquaman1227 Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:31 pm
    ANNNNNNNDDDD Child abuse..
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    intothevoid6 Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:32 pm
    so how do we get that bitch arrested? I`m all for spanking your kids or washing their mouths out, but cold showers? That`s too close to psychological torture to be anywhere near acceptable.
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    mcssls Female 70 & Over
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:34 pm
    and now she should be charged with abuse and endangerment
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:35 pm
    Darn, I want that curtain
  67. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:35 pm
    This video was a real Halmark Moment.

    By the age of 14 he will kill his entire family.

    Because we are such an understanding society, we will try him as an adult and sentence him to death.

    But on appeal, a schyster lawyer will get it reduced to life imprisonment.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:36 pm
    Give her a hot sauce douche
  69. Profile photo of FeelTheRide
    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:45 pm
    LOL @Gerry!!
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:50 pm
    i dont know how i feel about that. people wash children`s mouths with soap and cold shower certainly isnt the worse punishment in the world....MB she has a point.
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    ElMustache Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:51 pm
    Lolboy: Justification of my abuse? Pshhh. Sabes que You got a lot to learn about getting raised in a latino household. I`ve got a great relationship with both mis parientes and they kept me and my siblings in line. So keep your analysis in check. Entiendes cabron?
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:52 pm
    Wow, it`s really not the punishment that bothers me, it`s how she acts. She`s like a damn drill sargent. Once the kid starts screaming in pain it`s gone far enough. I can imagine making a kid do these things as punishment, but she goes WAY too far. Part of me feels bad for her though, because I know this woman has no idea what she`s doing and how badly she`s screwing up or how to fix it. She`s lashing out at the kid because she doesn`t know anything better she can do, but that`s not the same as actually wanting to hurt him. I`m sure she thinks that this will teach her kid a lesson, but all he`s going to learn is that the world is unfair and he`s a bad person that everyone hates. I kind of want to watch the episode now, see what Phil had to say, but I doubt I`ll like it.
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    scarytropin Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:53 pm
    Okay Slothofdoom, let`s try this: hot sauce does not physically damage digestive tissue. At all. Anyone who says it does is misinformed. Immersion in very cold water can certainly cause bad effects. He was taking a shower in water that was not hot. How cold was it? Freezing? How do you know? A cool shower can be uncomfortable without causing the slightest bit of harm. To put your final statement on its head: just because you imagine damage doesn`t mean it`s there.
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    EdiMesic, people can change. Watch Supernanny sometime, most of the time parents like this actually want their kids to be good. She`s not TRYING to screw up his life, she`s just a massive failure of a parent. As long as she WANTS to change she can. If Phil could help her, that`s great. Honestly, I really doubt that after this public humiliation and exposure that she`s ever going to do something like that again.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    I don`t see how being Mormon had anything to do with what she did, really.

    In short, scary c*nt is scary and should not be allowed near children.
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    Paigala123 Female 13-17
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:00 pm
    Gross...she has triangle hair & What a drating bitch. Someone needs to shove a bottle of hot sauce up her non-nice individual

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    michaelcsr Male 40-49
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:01 pm
    Ok, the cold shower was a bit extreme for getting a card pulled, but the hot sauce isn`t. I wouldn`t call this abuse. Just a rookie mom on a power trip. The boy wasn`t harmed. However, Dr. Phil is a douchebag who endangers people with his fake degree every day. Much more dangerous than that mom.
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    wingzero0721 Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:03 pm
    Dude, who sits around and watches Dr. Phil? You Fail!
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    verinon Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:04 pm
    Mormons are asshats.
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    michaelcsr Male 40-49
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:11 pm
    I don`t watch Dr Phil on tv, dolt. I see the videos posted on IAB. And btw, not that I have any love for Mormons, but what about this video makes any reference to her being a Mormon? I saw mothers in my own neighborhood who were JW, Catholic and protestant, that were way worse abusers than this chick was. How do we know she`s mormon?
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    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
    515 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 6:16 pm
    @michaelcsr: she is not a rookie mom; she has 5 other children. Check the Dr. Phil website.

    And how can you people say "hot sauce isn`t that bad"? To a 7 yr old it`s pretty bad. Tapatio is pretty hot in general. If you actually READ the conversation Dr. Phil had with her you would get why this is so f**ked up. The kid was diagnosed with a behavioral disease; instead of the mother getting him help, or finding out from someone who is educated on the disease, she decides to pour hot sauce in his mouth and give him cold showers. She`s trying to get him not to lie; but the kid is lying because he is terrified of the punishment he`s going to receive. It`s a circle that she needs to break.
  82. Profile photo of FeelTheRide
    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
    515 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 6:18 pm
    @michaelcsr, again if you check the site: she disclosed the information about her religion. She did not have to do that.
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    Midge210 Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:19 pm
    We used hot sauce as punishment for when my younger brothers used to say bad words, but only a dab on the lips was enough. She gave him an entire mouthfull and made him leave it in his mouth. The cold shower was too much as well. Hearing him cry like that broke my heart :`(
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    michaelcsr Male 40-49
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:23 pm
    Ok, feeltheride, you make valid points. I won`t nor will I ever waste time on the Phony Phil website, but if you say there`s more to the story there, then I believe you. However, my kids got a spanking whey they lied. Which was not to often so the disipline was effective. I know parents who still rub soap on their kids tongues when they use foul language. I don`t think hot sauce, something that people put in their mouths every day, is abuse.
    It`s effective and harmless. Anyone who claims emotional abuse because of that is just pussies. Everything else you stated I can`t argue because maybe there is more on his site. I based my oppinion on what was shown here. And what was shown here was not bad except for her powertrip.
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    michaelcsr Male 40-49
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:25 pm
    Midge, anytime a kid gets in trouble is heartbreaking. When I sent my kids to their room for back talking or to the corner for disobeying when they were younger, it broke my heart, but kids need disipline.
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    Assassin_963 Male 13-17
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:26 pm
    Jesus! Poor kid. I feel so bad for him. What an extreme punishment, more emotionally damaging than physically. This bitch should get that kid pulled from her.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:27 pm
    Hot sauce and a cold shower aren`t abuse in the same sense locking them in a small closet isn`t abuse. It may not physically hurt them, but do it often enough and it screws up the psychie.

    And this can only escelate and get worse over time. I think parents get ONE STRIKE. The kid needs rescued and put in a better home.

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    akiiryuuha Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:27 pm
    This is awful. Absolutely awful. I desperately hope that that child gets taken away and placed in a better home.

    Not just because of the hot sauce, the cold showers, and the fact that she has clearly done this many times before. No, because of the way that boy flinched at 1:55 seconds. You don`t flinch that way if you`ve never been smacked around before. She`s hit him before, at least enough times for it to have become an unconscious reaction to sudden forward movement and verbal inflection.

    Gods, I hate this woman. I hate people that hurt children.
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    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:33 pm
    @michaelcsr: I can`t stand that crack-pot either, but I had to see what the whole story on this was. I totally agree with spankings and discipline and punishment and all that good stuff; but if there are circumstances that some sort of mental illness is involved I think other forms of discipline might be more effective. The lady adopted that boy with his twin and said she immediately had a connection with the brother, but felt no connection to him. Basically she was saying she liked the brother more. That child was pretty much "disliked" (if you want to call it that) from the moment that woman met him. She said something like "well, we adopted them, and we can`t give them back so we just have to deal with it" it`s actually sad when someone says, let alone thinks, that about their child. Kids just want love, and he probably acts out because he doesn`t feel that from her. Kids are smarter than a lot of people give them credit for.
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    kingadaQ Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:36 pm
    How is this child abuse??? Kids NEED discipline!!! It`s that simple. It`s always tough to watch parents do things like this to their kids... I doesn`t make it wrong though. This is unorthodox for sure, but it sure as hell aint abuse... I`d go back and trade his hot sauce and a cold shower for my slap in the face and wooden spoon over the rear end. I bet he won`t "Pull 3 Cards" ever again.... BTW should I know what that means?? Im assuming it`s bad.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:36 pm
    Maybe water boarding DOES have some uses.... she deserves it
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    Reganom Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:36 pm
    "I don`t think hot sauce, something that people put in their mouths every day"

    How often do you take a mouthfull of it, swish it around, and hold it there. He`s a young child so its probably worse for him. Personally i can`t deal with hot stuff so that would be really pooty for me. I`m not saying that it`s physical abuse like sever beatings, but it is quite abusive.
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    Geogypsy Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:36 pm
    Judging by the comments I think that I`ll either vomit or break something from watching this.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:37 pm
    Wouldn`t have been my choice of punishment for the kid, But then again it`s not my kid.

    I got my ass spanked for lying at this kids age, At least she isn`t leaving bruises and welts on him. She`s also making it clear what the punishments are beforehand and making him own up to his bad behavior.

    I don`t believe the mom was `on a power trip`, She was building character. Better this kid have hot sauce in his mouth for a minute or two now, Than have him out stealing cars or selling drugs later in life.
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    BlueChocobo Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:41 pm
    That kid is going to hate hot sauce when he gets older.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:41 pm
    ok when I was a kid i got my mouth washed out with soap or a spanking...but this lady has major anger issues and is taking it out on the child. child should be removed.
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    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:42 pm
    I think everyone needs to read the WHOLE story about this video! Yes kids need discipline, but the mother FLAT OUT said she felt no connection to that child. Kids act out more when they are afraid of someone, they lie when they are afraid of someone. There is a difference between disciplining your child and making them fear you. BIG difference!
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    Reganom Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:44 pm
    Crakr:

    Punishment doesn`t have to be beatings or hot sauce. I was smacked once when i was a child it left no marks, wasn`t even painful i`m sure seeing as i had a nappy(diaper) on. There are far more effective punishments than that.

    What makes it stand out to me, is that when i see a child get smacked (within reason obviously) it doesn`t affect me. Like wise with washing their mouth out (inneffective with my brother as he would eat soap and liked the taste). Watching her made me feel really uncomfortable and a little worried. Maybe it`s because its a bizzarre punishments, maybe i think she took things too far.
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    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:44 pm
    @kingadaQ: the card things really aren`t that bad. teachers sometimes give them out for talking in class; it`s not like the kid lit the classroom on fire. lol
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    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:46 pm
    None of that would have worked on me. I used to eat hot sauce, and I love the cold. B!tch woulda had a ball with me.
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    KillerCactus Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    "What an extreme punishment, more emotionally damaging than physically."
    I agree. I`m quite familiar with punishments like this my dad did similar things. I would honestly take a spanking than a prolonged punishment with hot sauce, a cold shower AND being yelled at repeatedly for something that I understood from the first punishment.
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    Neko_Sik Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:54 pm
    That kind of behavior could create some psychological problems in that child! Poor boy.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:54 pm
    I think she was `Angry` because the kid hid the cards from her. Which is understandable, Maybe she should`ve waited to administer the punishment until she had time to cool off. But her anger didn`t turn into physical abuse, She didn`t arbitrarily invent a new punishment or scream and yell at him.

    However you want to slice it, These were less severe punishments than I ever got for similar misdeeds and I don`t consider myself to have ever been `abused` by my parents.

    Personally, I believe some of you need to chugged back on over to namby pamby land, If you can`t handle disciplining your kids.
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    MTsnowboarde Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:55 pm
    Oh man that was hard to watch; I believe in kids being disciplined, but hot sauce and a cold shower? That was sick.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:58 pm
    Keep in mind, this was probably here "good behavior" because she knew the camera was running.

    Makes me shudder to think what she did when the camera was turned off.
  106. Profile photo of FeelTheRide
    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 6:59 pm
    @CrakrJak: The problem with her punishment is that the child has a diagnosed mental disease, and she said herself nothing has worked. But she has NOT gone to a professional to help with behavior problems. She didn`t care enough about him to find out what types of punishments would be effective.
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:00 pm
    This isnt discipline or character building this is torture and abuse by a mother on its child.
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    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:01 pm
    @Gerry1of1: Her 11 year old daughter video taped that. Unfortunately there are other children living there, 5 other children. Hopefully she has gotten the help she needed or CPS intervened.
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    Steve0x757 Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:08 pm
    I don`t see the problem?
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    NottaSpy Male 40-49
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:09 pm
    The Joke is on her. Hot sauce causes the brain to release endorphins. In a round about way, she has rewarded his bad behavior.
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    jak22 Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:10 pm
    yeah i work in a daycare and trust me, this is not how you discipline a kid, especially one of that age. spanking is one thing, but this is just abuse.
  112. Profile photo of FeelTheRide
    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:10 pm
    @Steve0x757: if you don`t see the problem you need to go to Crackpot Phil`s website and read the whole story.

    I really wish IAB would post the whole story sometimes.
  113. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:10 pm
    FeelTheRide: I didn`t know that the kid had mental problems, But she obviously does care or she wouldn`t have went on Dr. Phil`s show.

    Good parents don`t like punishing their kids, It hurts them to have to. Once I realized that it really did hurt my parents, And that the phrase "This hurts me more than it does you" wasn`t just some mean bullsh|t, My childhood behavior improved greatly.

    I don`t know what this kids diagnosis is, But the ADHD diagnosis is bullcrap. Most kids diagnosed with it are not really ADHD, It`s very over diagnosed. And it`s pushed by teachers that want quiet perfectly behaved little zombies to teach.
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    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:11 pm
    i cried all the way through the cold shower part, it was horrible :(
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    GhettoNinja Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:13 pm
    " At least she isn`t leaving bruises and welts on him"-crakrjak

    Do you listen to yourself? lmfao

    Yeah, at least there are no visible marks of her mistreatment of a child.

    /rollseyes

    And it builds character right? What type of character does this build?

    If this child grows up to be a man of strong character it won`t be because of this woman and her punishments. It will be in SPITE of this beastly woman.

    And...namby pamby land? You like Sgt. Hartley eh? That was a pretty funny commercial..

    Gotta love that ole` Devil Dog.

    Oorah.

  116. Profile photo of FeelTheRide
    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:13 pm
    @CrakrJak: I know it wasn`t ADHD, but I can`t remember what it was (and don`t feel like looking, lol)and I totally agree with you about ADHD being grossly over diagnosed.
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    patthebaker Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:15 pm
    Am i the only one who imagined her as samuel l. Jackson in pulp fiction?
    CARDS MUTHF"ER!!! DID YOU PULL THEM.
  118. Profile photo of FeelTheRide
    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:16 pm
    @patthebaker: I totally didn`t until you just posted that. LOL...literally LOLing
  119. Profile photo of patthebaker
    patthebaker Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:22 pm
    The pleasure is mine. If i can get one person to laugh at child abuse then my work here is done.
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    Darkhumour Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:22 pm
    this disgusts me to know that her children where not taken away from her and that she wasn`t whipped flayed and left in a cage to be poked in a zoo at exhibit for the rest of her sad embarressment of a life. If i was in the audience i`m ashamed to admit i wouldn`t have to will power not to get up walk down to the stage and kill her. People who torture their own children deserve nothing better then euthenization, there no excuse or reason to brutalize a helpless creature that wants nothing more than to love you and be loved in return.
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    annaXXBanana Female 13-17
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:25 pm
    I think that lady just needs to chill.
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    xKiesix Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:25 pm
    This just makes me sad. :(
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    GhettoNinja Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:26 pm
    @patthebaker

    I have to admit it...I laughed out loud. then groaned. then laughed some more:P
  124. Profile photo of SPrinkZ
    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:28 pm
    "I don`t know what this kids diagnosis is, But the ADHD diagnosis is bullcrap. Most kids diagnosed with it are not really ADHD, It`s very over diagnosed. And it`s pushed by teachers that want quiet perfectly behaved little zombies to teach. "

    Over diagnosed, yes, but bullcrap? No.
  125. Profile photo of SPrinkZ
    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:30 pm
    But on a related note...isn`t this the kind of stuff they actually DO to torture people? Cold water torture seems pretty effective.
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    x_lvlalfoy_x Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:32 pm
    I remember watching this on Dr. Phil.. the kid is a twin.. and they love his twin, but they said this one has `disorders`. Tsk.
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    Delicateflow Female 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:36 pm
    I just watched the recap on the Dr. Phil website. The mother seemed to welcome ANY advice on how to handle the situation. She said she just couldn`t handle the child...though with that being said, I`m a mandated reporter, and if I knew something like this was going on in a home of one of my clients, I would have to call CPS.
  128. Profile photo of DixxyRarr
    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:40 pm
    Oh! That was hard to watch. The worst my mom did to me was the standard `mom arm grab`... you know when she gets you right in the bicep and leads you away from whatever mess you`re into.

    I don`t like that the link labels her as Mormon. What`s that got to do with anything?
  129. Profile photo of FeelTheRide
    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:44 pm
    @DixxyRarr: She disclosed that information. on the show. I think I have posted that response to the same comment you made like 39 times lol
  130. Profile photo of Batmanners
    Batmanners Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:45 pm
    "Over diagnosed, yes, but bullcrap? No."

    He was saying diagnosing ADHD for this kid was bullcrap, not saying it didn`t exist.

    @CrakrJak, the point isn`t what she did, it`s how she did it...it was a relentless verbal assault, with some torturous punishments on a child who is obviously already scared of his "mother".

    also, I am pretty sure she was smacking him when he was in the shower...
  131. Profile photo of Jammacan
    Jammacan Female 13-17
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:50 pm
    Well, of course hes gonna lie if you TORTURE him! Basic instinct is to preserve ourselves and he would be tortured anyway no matter what in that situation!
    This is BARBARIC! :-O
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    Spocom Female 13-17
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:50 pm
    Does anyone have any contact information on this woman? I have a few words and bags of poo that would love to find their way to her :)
  133. Profile photo of sbeelz
    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:51 pm
    @FeelTheRide- According to the Dr. Phil website, this child does not have a diagnosed mental disease. Dr. Phil speculates that the kid has a diagnosable mental disease, but it does not seem he has actually diagnosed with anything. Not that it makes much of a difference to the point you are trying to make, which I agree with. However, few child mental-health specialists are going to recommend any kind of "punishments," or at least they wouldn`t use that word to describe the negative consequences imposed for bad behavior. Negative reinforcement works much better (the difference being that negative reinforcement is the removal of positive stimuli- video games, TV, dessert, etc- as a consequence of bad behavior. Punishment is the use of negative stimuli- pain, yelling, insults, etc- as a consequence of bad behavior).
  134. Profile photo of Batmanners
    Batmanners Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:52 pm
    "The Joke is on her. Hot sauce causes the brain to release endorphins. In a round about way, she has rewarded his bad behavior."

    Yeah, but have you ever swooshed hot sauce before sex? Kinda ruins the mood...
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    taelmx Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:53 pm
    Holy poo...
  136. Profile photo of DixxyRarr
    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:54 pm
    FeelTheRide: But what does that have to do with this small clip? For the sake of this post on IAB, it could have been left off. It just sort of feels like religion-bashing. I think it insinuates that she`s abusive because she`s Mormon, not because she has other issues.
  137. Profile photo of FeelTheRide
    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:56 pm
    @sbeelz, I guess I misread that. I just went back and re-read. she did say he was seen by a professional, but wasn`t sure if he was diagnosed.
    I totally agree about what you said about discipline!! Best way I have heard that explained.
  138. Profile photo of Batmanners
    Batmanners Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:57 pm
    If anything the only reason this kid acts up when the mom isn`t around is because he can finally have some fun.

    A teacher isn`t going to hot sauce and cold shower him...who cares about a card? I was an energetic kid, acting before thinking, got me in lots of trouble, and I don`t recall ever worrying about what my parents would do when I did things, and I got my ass smacked with the wooden spoon a few times...but that didn`t stop me from doing stupid poo.
  139. Profile photo of FeelTheRide
    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 7:58 pm
    @DixxyRarr: The poster probably just copied the title of the video, which was most likely posted on youtube by the Dr. Phil show. So the show is the one you should get at about religion bashing, not IAB :-)
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    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:00 pm
    excuse me, it wasn`t posted by dr phil show. At any rate, whoever submitted this to IAB just copied the title of the video
  141. Profile photo of Batmanners
    Batmanners Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:04 pm
    @DixieRarr: She is abusive because she is Mormon. No other reason.

    This video is therefore proof that all Mormons are abusive parents, no exceptions. None of them, not one, is worthy of being a parent.

    There. You wanted to know what this video insinuated, well I just confirmed all your speculations about what the title said, and it is, in fact, all true.
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    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:05 pm
    @Batmanners: BAHAHAHA
  143. Profile photo of mollyscary
    mollyscary Female 13-17
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:07 pm
    Oh lawdy, I`m glad my parents didn`t treat me like that.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:12 pm
    Okay. I watched `till the cold shower. I have a question.

    Where was this supposed abuse?

    At least he didn`t get spanked with a belt like ALL PEOPLE over the age of 30 did!

    Jesus. If this is abuse, it`s only a matter of time until "time out" is considered harsh.
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    daniellee_x Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:12 pm
    why the hell stop the video there? I NEED TO SEE WHAT DR. PHIL SAYS!
  146. Profile photo of sbeelz
    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:15 pm
    @FeelTheRide-
    I didn`t exactly come up with that explanation on my own- I`ve taken a lot of psychology classes.
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    ak2nc1 Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:19 pm
    I felt bad for this child until the shower, then I almost cried. One obvious thing: the child is adopted. She doesn`t see herself or her childs fathers face in her son`s eyes. She isn`t attached enough to sympathize with the little boy. Better pray she never has any kids of her own, or this child isn`t gonna just be abused. He`ll be abused, then ignored. :(((
  148. Profile photo of sbeelz
    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:20 pm
    "The Joke is on her. Hot sauce causes the brain to release endorphins. In a round about way, she has rewarded his bad behavior"

    Actually, any form of corporal punishment that causes physical pain will release endorphins- and you`re right, for a lot of kids punishment actually reinforces behavior rather than discouraging it; especially if they only receive attention from a parent when they behave badly.
  149. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:23 pm
    She was very nice to him, and did not yell at him while reinforcing his mistakes.

    The actual punishment was the consequence. Just talking to him as an equal at his age would be a mistake. She spoke slowly and sternly.

    Like I said before, she didn`t take a belt or switch to his ass, which is what would have happened to those of us that grew up right.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:26 pm
    Also, I can tell that she loves him, and that she cares about his well being, BECAUSE she punishes him.

    At least she didn`t say "You pulled 3 blue cards? Okay time out for 15 minutes, then you can do whatever."

    Also, someone said the boy was scared of her? What is wrong with that? His ass should be scared. It`s called respect and humility. Something people are losing these days.
  151. Profile photo of NexusLetum
    NexusLetum Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:28 pm
    @auburnjunky
    I don`t know what video you were watching, but that sounded like yelling to me. Also reminded me of a brutal interrogation actually. Certainly not the best way to treat a kid, but I`m not gonna judge her on a few minutes of discipline. Even if it was for some really stupid poo.

    Also, while fear does command attention and obedience. It does NOT command respect. Love is not best shown through punishment, punishment can easily be given even by someone who is indifferent or who hates you. Especially if there are cameras watching.
  152. Profile photo of Painter13
    Painter13 Male 40-49
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:30 pm
    Sick, ruined my night. Poor kid, unloved and hated by those who are supposed to protect him from the bad in the world.
  153. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:32 pm
    "Love is not best shown through punishment, punishment can easily be given even by someone who is indifferent or who hates you."

    How do we know she doesn`t treat him like a little king when he is well behaved?

    How do we know this is a usual occurrence in their household?

    I say she wasn`t yelling, because I have yelled at my kids a few times, and it was A LOT louder than that. To me, that sounds more like being very stern.
  154. Profile photo of hwkiller
    hwkiller Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:32 pm
    @sbeelz
    You`re completely wrong though.

    The removal of positive stimuli is not negative reinforcement. That is negative punishment. More specifically, that is response cost, a subset of (-) punishment.
    Punishment weakens a response; reinforcement strengthens response.
    And punishment *does* work and *is* necessary at times.
    The best way to encourage a positive behavior though is to reinforce it, not punish *other* behaviors. Punishment is, at times, necessary, but isn`t recommended as the primary method of behavioral modification.
  155. Profile photo of 53590
    53590 Male 13-17
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:33 pm
    Was she pushing it? Yeah, she probably was. Was she being abusive? I don`t think so. this would fit my definition of very borderline abusive or not abusive. what has this world come to where every time a parent gives physical pain to their child it is considered abuse.

    Another thing. Why so much emphasis on the fact that she was a Mormon. I don`t see how that has any relevance to the video. I am not a Mormon but i can see how a Mormon would be very offended by this. unless there is some sort of religious reason for what she is doing. In which case, I take back what i said.
  156. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:33 pm
    "Poor kid, unloved and hated by those who are supposed to protect him"

    How do you know this from a 3 minute clip? There are 24 hours in a day you know.
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    kummi90 Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:34 pm
    What a crazy lady. Someone should have called child services, this is clearly unacceptable. Cold shower, what the drat is this, Third Reich?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:34 pm
    I`ll agree with 53590. Abusive? NO. Pushing it? Probably.
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    Painter13 Male 40-49
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:34 pm
    She did strike the child twice while he was in the shower, watch the full episode. She admitted so. Those of you who think this is acceptable will never be convinced otherwise, it is the machinations of your enviroment, and that is pretty hard to undo, the rest of us will bring our children up to be happy and fearless.
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    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:35 pm
    FeelTheRide: I`m not really trying to `get at` anybody... I Just wanted to discuss how her being Mormon is irrelevant. But thanks for the info :)


    Batmanners: Wow! That was not the reaction I was expecting from my comment.
  161. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:36 pm
    "the rest of us will bring our children up to be happy and fearless."

    ...and the first time they experience failure, or a need to be fearful, they will lose, miserably, and resent their parents who did not prepare them for life.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:40 pm
    "the rest of us will bring our children up to be happy and fearless."

    ...and the first time they experience failure, or a need to be fearful, they will lose, miserably, and resent their parents who did not prepare them for life.
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    Inter237 Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:40 pm
    You are right, the child clearly is not unloved otherwise she wouldn`t punish him and try to teach him what is right. But she is going way over the top with the punishment!
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    GhettoNinja Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:41 pm
    Seems as many if not more people are upset at the percieved slight to Mormons than they are with the treatment of a child.

    Defensive much Mormons?
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    Gleeballs Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:42 pm
    she is pretty harsh. i mean i wouldve taken the spankings before i took the hot sauce. she makes him hold it in..... someone try this at home and report back plz :D
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:42 pm
    I don`t understand the Mormon connection, but that isn`t what bothers me.

    What bothers me is how some people think this is torture and abuse.

    It clearly is not.

    I`d rather have hot sauce than soap, and I`d VERY MUCH rather have a 2 minute cold shower than a spanking with a belt.
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    janus_games Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:48 pm
    Yeah, as much as I didn`t like the tone of the parent, I`m kind of in the same boat as auburnjunky. Punishment for something done wrong shouldn`t feel good, even to watch.

    That said, she wasn`t hitting the child, I disagree with hot sauce (but I love hot sauce), but the idea is to associate something bad and very uncomfortable with poor behavior.

    I think the big problem with it is that the child is terrified, and most of that is coming from the tone of the parent. No one, and I mean NO ONE, wants to feel that kind of demeaning treatment, you can`t expect a child to not lie to avoid being treated like that.

    The big problem is the child is left without dignity. You may feel it`s a big concept for children to understand, but they do at least on some level.

    I`m personally okay with corporal punishment, but not the fear she`s instilling.
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    Dead-Kittens Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:50 pm
    Anyone who thinks getting the belt is worse than a cold shower is nuts, bring on the belt.. a COLD shower numbs you so fast you can maybe..MAYBE count down from 15 before you jump out to lather, and if your LUCKY youll make it to 5, soap up jump in and same again, MAYBE 10 seconds. jump and spend the next 2 hours numb and suffering from stiffness and achy muscles.....All this as a GROWN man let alone a 5 year old (?) kid.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:52 pm
    @janus:

    How do we know she didn`t hug him and shower him with love after his punishment? This is the problem. We don`t know their household. We don`t know anything after the fact.

    We just know what the entertainment show Dr. Phil wants us to know, so he can prey on the sensibilities, or lack thereof, of soccer moms who think a 10 minute time out is a horrible punishment.
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    Brittany0100 Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:53 pm
    wow I really want to kill this lady!!
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:55 pm
    hwkiller
    Yeah- you`re totally right. I had it inside-out and backwards. Negative reinforcement is the removal of a negative stimulus to reward good behavior- not a recommended way to raise a child. "Billy, you can take your steel-wool sweater off once you eat your peas." Yeah, no.

    And yeah, punishment is necessary- but corporeal punishment is not. Corporeal punishment is often about a parent taking their anger out on their kids, though not always. I don`t think that spanking a kid is the best way to discipline them, but I don`t think there`s really evidence that it`s likely to traumatize them either.

    This woman`s behavior, however, looks very likely to cause this kid some serious long-term psychological problems.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:55 pm
    @deadkittens:

    Back when I was in middle/high school, we had to take ice baths up to our neck for 60 seconds EVERYDAY after practice, so I feel ya.

    Kids though, would much rather have this, than a belt. I know I would.
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    dude21862004 Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:58 pm
    Yeah, I don`t see much prob either. Cold shower and hot sauce aren`t exactly torture.
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    jib Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:59 pm
    Wow kinda scary, but i guess to each his own. I mean she gets raise her family however she wants, granted she doesn`t put the boys life at risk or abuses him
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 8:59 pm
    "but corporeal punishment is not."

    What do you suggest? Trick them into submission?

    When disciplining my children, I have different punishments for different offenses. NONE involve touching the child in any way, but they feel it when they are done.

    Push-ups. Wall squats. Sit-ups. Laps around the house. Works wonders. They hardly misbehave lol.
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    jib Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:01 pm
    It`s not really the punishment that`s scary, but the way she drills things into the kid`s head seems kinda militaristic
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:02 pm
    auburnjunky-
    If you go to Dr. Phil`s website, you can get more information about this situation. It doesn`t look too good. She says she`s at her wit`s end with the kid and does this kind of thing all the time. To her credit, she did take the initiative to seek help from Dr. Phil. However- considering the fact that he`s got sh*tloads of people writing to him, I wonder if she`d actually have gotten any real help if she`d never heard back from Dr. Phil.
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    Painter13 Male 40-49
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:03 pm
    Auburnjunky, love is subjective. Your defintion is obviously different than mine. No way can you truly love something that you would treat that way. Rationalize all you want, it`s inhumane.
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:07 pm
    auburnjunky-
    I wouldn`t consider those things corporeal punishment. Corporeal punishment means, in my mind, INFLICTING pain. Yes- pushups, situps, etc can be painful. But at the same time, making kids exercise is VERY different from hitting them. Besides, exercise is good for them. (although maybe you`re running the risk of making them hate exercising? Probably not).
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    NexusLetum Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:07 pm
    @auburnjunky
    Laps are not corporal punishment. They won`t make your kids look at you like you`ll kill them the moment you get mad at anything. This kid looks like his mom`s gonna bury him for a drating argument over some goddamn pencils.

    But your constant replies to every post defending yourself and your methods, aimed at you or not, indicates your status as a troll or a very guilty conscience. Whether you meant to or not you`ve become a very good troll. Well played.
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:10 pm
    OK, yeah, fine, corporeal comes from the root "corpus" which means body, and by making kids exercise you`re technically punishing the body, but you`re still making them healthier and I applaud your creative parenting (unless you go totally overboard and make them do squat-thrusts until they can`t walk for days)
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    Painter13 Male 40-49
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:10 pm
    Auburn Junky, my kids have fallen at times, but they learn, move on and try harder. Regret nothing and try. What the heck does that have to do with abuse? By the way, my method worked so poorly my kid has a 4 year
    full ride to Columbia N.Y. , and his sister is already been approached by Northwestern in Il. So your points are moot my household.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:11 pm
    That is not indicative or tolerated in LDS doctrine. Since a member will have seen this episode. I`m sure she`s going to be brought up on disciplinary matters to the Bishopric including the father. This is cause for ex-communication as of abuse is not tolerated by the church and is in the Church handbook of instructions. Abuse of children is never tolerated if found out.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:11 pm
    LOL! Successful troll is successful!

    Seriously though. What does her being Mormon have to do with anything?
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:12 pm
    I might add she will be reported to Child Protective Services based on this video.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:13 pm
    @sbeelz:

    I don`t go crazy with it, and I am very stern with them before it begins, but I am supportive during the punishment (like a spotter. YOU CAN DO IT! YOU GOT THIS!).

    My youngest boy has some KILLER quads, and he is fast as hell. lol
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:17 pm
    I also noted the picture of Jesus Christ in the hallway. I guess she doesn`t pay attention to WWJD.
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:18 pm
    its a physical assault on a child, causing bodily harm to a child is never acceptable, the mother is a bully and an abuser.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:21 pm
    @mcduff:

    Where`s bodily harm? Food held in his mouth for 60 seconds?
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    korahn Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:21 pm
    A) why is it necessary to mention she`s a mormon in the title?

    B) What does it mean to "pull 3 cards"? - - Not sure what is SOO bad that he deserves this.

    C) The hot sauce thing isn`t so bad (most of us got soap in our mouths for swearing when we were younger), but the cold shower and constant yelling in the kids face... I don`t agree with that.
  191. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:22 pm
    "I guess she doesn`t pay attention to WWJD."

    "He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24) and "Withhold not correction from a child: for if thou strike him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs 23:13-14)
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:25 pm
    a burning substance held in his mouth its inflicting pain on a child and isnt right and your defence of it makes me wonder what sort of person you are.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:26 pm
    "but the cold shower"

    She was preparing him for this. (click me)
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:26 pm
    "a burning substance"

    Does it burn, or give the sensation of heat?

    I love hot sauce BTW lol.
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    NexusLetum Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:31 pm
    @korahn
    Some teachers use a card system of punishment. You start with a green/blue card and steadily show progress as you gain more demerits/punishments/whatever usually in lieu of the school issuing after school detention. Most schools are starting to favor lunch/recess detentions and the cards keep track of behavior over a day/week.
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    camael Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:33 pm
    This is seriously disgusting. I honestly couldn`t get halfway through without feeling like I wanted to vomit.
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:34 pm
    when I eat a curry thats too hot it hurts wether you call that a sensation or not is irrelevant it hurts and I`m an adult.
    She inflicts pain on this child.
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    Atrayu4u Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:35 pm
    Hmmmm. I think that kid got the idea.. I think further punishment than having a very stern talk with him to get him to understand what he did wrong and why it was wrong, and the hot sauce (which.. she keeps in the bathroom..) was unneccessary. I also get the feeling she wanted to lower him to a crying mess.. I mean, really -wanted- to see that happen. Some people have control issues.. if they didn`t have enough, or feel they had enough, control in their lives until a certain point, they exact control over others to get that power and `rightness` back in their lives. We`re all only human, but sh*t, sometimes you need to take a step back and assess your own anger and motives.
  199. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:35 pm
    "Most schools are starting to favor lunch/recess detentions"

    Okay so they are punishing kids with malnourishment these days?

    What ever happened to "3 licks, now go back to class"?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:36 pm
    "when I eat a curry thats too hot it hurts wether you call that a sensation or not is irrelevant it hurts and I`m an adult."

    Pussy. Also, Curry is nasty.
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    xxsmudgexx41 Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:36 pm
    i wish that kid would`ve spit that hot sauce in her face. i would`ve loled all day!!
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:37 pm
    I can see her err now that I think about it.

    Why the hell was the hot sauce in the bathroom?

    I can actually say this is too far, but we don`t see what happens when the cameras turn off.
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    Atrayu4u Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:37 pm
    I`d be fascinated to see if this boy grows into a wussy pile of goo or if he acts out and beats up girls and whatnot.
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    ROK9 Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:40 pm
    see thats why you should just smack them
  205. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:41 pm
    "I`d be fascinated to see if this boy grows into a wussy pile of goo or if he acts out and beats up girls and whatnot."

    Why does that have to be the only options?

    What if he grows up understanding cause and effect, while at the same time learning the importance of rules and good behavior?

    Just playing devil`s advocate here.
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:41 pm
    Curry is lovely as long as its not too hot.
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    NexusLetum Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:41 pm
    @auburnjunky No no, they still eat, but they can`t go outside and play or see their friends. It`s still detention, but it saves schools from paying overtime. Also, prevents the parents from complaining about schedule changes and stuff.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:41 pm
    "see thats why you should just smack them"

    I am the active troll here. Leave in peace brother. ;)
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:42 pm
    Oh okay. Thanks nexus.
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:43 pm
    "Also, someone said the boy was scared of her? What is wrong with that? His ass should be scared. It`s called respect and humility. Something people are losing these days."

    I think that was me. There is a difference between "respect and humility" and "fear". Fear is not a good thing. Respecting the person who feeds and clothes you is different.

    I respected my parent`s rules, but somehow still got in lots of trouble, and yet, never was afraid of them, despite the spanking and yelling. The mom didn`t even hear him out, or give him a chance, he got a card? Punishment time!

    I guess I was lucky and had a mom that would listen to my side of the story before punishing me. I didn`t lie about it (I`m not a liar, I hate lying, my conscience eats at me when I do, and then I tell the truth) and she would punish me if it was necessary.

    Defending myself: No punishment.
    Killing a frog with a rake: Punishment.
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    camael Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:44 pm
    It`s not necessarily the punishment itself that disturbs me, it`s the way she does it. First of all, she`s going to ruin that poor kid for hot sauce forever! Also, I think that kid is far FAR too young for that, and I can`t possibly imagine what he`d done to deserve that kind of punishment.
  212. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:46 pm
    "I respected my parent`s rules, but somehow still got in lots of trouble, and yet, never was afraid of them, despite the spanking and yelling."

    I felt the same way too.

    This is actually an awesome post man.

    My question though. Was he scared of her, or scared of the punishment he knew he would get?

    I know my ass used to be scared of my punishment, not my mom or dad.
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:46 pm
    @auburnjunky- You sound like a pretty awesome dad. Plus, as you said, your kids rarely misbehave, so it`s obviously working. Based on what it says on Dr. Phil`s website, what this woman is doing is NOT working- she said that no matter what she does he misbehaves. If anyone is interested in getting the full story of this episode, it`s here

    I hate to promote Dr. Phil`s show, but those of you involved in this discussion who didn`t bother to Google this, it`d be worth checking out the page.
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    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:48 pm
    elmustache: The thing is, I live in a city with a 40% latino population and my family is friends with other latino families. I have seen first hand how they treat their children, and they never actually talk to them but just smack them instead. Although I had some latino friends that managed to turn out alright, most of them turned to violence, having been brought up in it, and joined gangs because they thought they were cholos.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:49 pm
    LOL @ LOLboy:

    Wrong post.
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:51 pm
    Also, I think the fact that he said he lied because he was afraid of getting in trouble is telling. Yeah, kids`ll do that a lot of the time- but they`re way MORE likely to do it if they`re afraid of being abused when they get in trouble. Forcing a kid into a cold shower is fcuking abusive- not only is it painful, it`s totally humiliating. I was able to be honest with my parents because while I knew they`d be mad, and I knew I`d get punished, I also knew they weren`t gonna fly into a rage and do something batsh*t insane to me.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:53 pm
    @sbeelz:

    I have only taken a belt to one of my kids one time. My 13 year old bought $700 worth of yoville cash with MY credit card. Went right into my wallet and took it without telling me, and replaced the card. THEN he tried to play it off!

    Oooooooh what a blistering!

    After that (a few days later when I could speak to him with a straight face) I made him call the credit card company and tell them what he did. THEN I called the local police department to come over and one of the officers gave him a lecture on credit card fraud.

    A few weeks later, he came up to me, randomly, and said he was sorry, hugged me, and asked if he could cut the grass to pay me back. (the charges were forgiven).

    That`s a good kid. Sorry about my life story there lol.
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    darkgear6 Male 70 & Over
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:55 pm
    Another religious nut?
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    anshakitty Female 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:55 pm
    And when does it say she`s mormon in this video clip? Someone just point that out to me..

    I think this is awful. But why does it matter what religion she is anyways? Religion is its own thing.. the people who are appart of those religions should act according to the principles and such, but just because you find people who don`t and people who are cruel.. doens`t mean you can use that to bash the religion and therefore make EVERY PERSON of that religion look bad.
  220. Profile photo of handys003
    handys003 Male 50-59
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:56 pm
    Auburnjunky replied:
    Monday, November 29, 2010 9:22:40 PM
    "I guess she doesn`t pay attention to WWJD."

    "He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24) and "Withhold not correction from a child: for if thou strike him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs 23:13-14).

    Handys003 responded:
    Mark 9:42 And whosoever shall aoffend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

    Sorry AJ but the Savior overules the OT.
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    BoredIAm Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:56 pm
    When he pulls four cards, she waterboards him.
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    pariahnola Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:57 pm
    It`s better than the crap my dad put me through when I was a kid. Hot sauce would have a hell of a much better punishment! Also I like hot sauce lol
  223. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:57 pm
    "Sorry AJ but the Savior overules the OT."

    AGREED!

    Thanks for that.
  224. Profile photo of sbeelz
    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 9:59 pm
    @aubernjunky-
    sounds like an appropriate response to me. The fact that you only had to do that once ever says a lot- if a parent has to spank their kid all the time, it`s obviously not working.
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 10:00 pm
    @Auburnjunky

    I can`t speak for everyone, but this kid seemed scared of her from the start. 1:44, she just talks and he twitches...the only time I twitched is when my dad would raise his hand to smack me upside the head, not when he was talking to me.

    There is just something "off" about the way she does it... I can understand a cold shower (works great for kids who throw tantrums), I can understand hot sauce, I can understand speaking loud and sternly to the kid...but the way she does it...just seems cruel.

    I don`t know what it is, but it seems cruel.
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    janus_games Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 10:00 pm
    @auburnjunky sorry about the late reply wanted to eat...

    You`re right, like I meant to say, there are far worse ways to discipline your kid, and while I dislike her tone I don`t think she`s a horrible monster (a chance for her to learn, not go to jail). Like you said, we don`t know what happens when the camera turns off.

    In her defense, the kid was fighting in school (and that`s direct from the video), and the kid lied to his mom. It`s not a good thing. If his behavior is constantly like that, I can see even a caring mother getting frazzled from lack of knowing how to handle the situation.

    For everyone who just wants to villify her remember this, being a parent is hard, it comes with no instruction manual. She`s at least seeking help, even if it`s from Dr. Phil.
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    thatjimguy Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 10:01 pm
    And the title is about Mormons....why?

    Is there some kind of connection you wish to make between the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and child abuse?

    I know that people here have a big problem against religion in general, but this isn`t right.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 10:02 pm
    @batmanners:

    I`ve watched it a few more times, and I agree.

    Maybe the kid has issues? Not mental, just behavioral, and the mom doesn`t quite know how to deal.
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    korahn Male 30-39
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    November 29, 2010 at 10:04 pm
    @McDuff - if that was directed at me, I wasn`t defending it, just saying it doesn`t seem that bad. Firstly, I have never nor would I use that as punishment for my kids (that`s MY hot sauce, dammit). Second, I didn`t realize he had to hold it in his mouth.

    The punishment for my kids is nice and simple - they lose their video games and/or TV. It seems to work.

    @NexusLetum - ok, thanks. My son has something like that (in grade 1) they start at a green apple and each time they had to be spoken with 3 times, they get moved down to yellow, then red. They lose 10 minutes of free time after lunch if they hit red. After 20 "green" days, they get to choose a prize (like a Dollar Store thing).
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    stagefreak Male 18-29
    379 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 10:05 pm
    that kid is going to grow up to hate hot sauce. which is a shame because hot wings are awesome.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
    2402 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 10:06 pm
    @anchorite replies:
    Monday, November 29, 2010 9:55:33 PM
    And when does it say she`s Mormon in this video clip? Someone just point that out to me.

    I think this is awful. But why does it matter what religion she is anyways? Religion is its own thing.. the people who are apart of those religions should act according to the principles and such, but just because you find people who don`t and people who are cruel.. doesn`t mean you can use that to bash the religion and therefore make EVERY PERSON of that religion look bad

    See that picture of Christ in the hallway during the video before she takes the boy into the bathroom? It`s standard protocol for LDS families to have that in their household.

    Second and no it`s not indicative of all religious families. It`s usually the few bad people who don`t have a grasp on Christs teachings on Charity (Christlike Love). However I can promise you that the LDS church will not tolerate this abuse with such video evidence
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 10:08 pm
    @Korahn it was a general comment directed at anyone thinking inflicting pain on a child is acceptable and not abuse.
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    anshakitty Female 18-29
    25 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 10:17 pm
    @thatjimguy: I agree with you.
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    Skabashas Male 18-29
    1256 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 10:21 pm
    Religion aside (as it has no apparent direct connection to the content of this video), this is fcuking unacceptable. This woman should go straight to jail, and her son should be put in the care of someone with at least an ounce of sanity, because it is clear that this woman has absolutely none. This is so terrible.
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
    2868 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 10:30 pm
    People who keep saying she needs to go to jail or lose custody of her kids- seriously, get the full story at Dr. Phil`s website. She realizes that she needs to change her behavior, which is why she wanted to go on Dr. Phil. She didn`t go on the show to defend her behavior- she is actively looking for help. Granted, she`d probably be better off doing so off the air, but whatever. And basically, Dr. Phil told her that she has to go along with his plan to have therapists work with her in her home and if she doesn`t, CPS will be called in to deal with the situation. The fact that she`s willing to accept help shows that she cares about her kid- do you really think he`ll be better off with some random foster parents? I`ve definitely heard of worse poo than this happening to kids in foster homes (to be fair, there are plenty of excellent parents fostering kids as well).
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    raikun12 Male 18-29
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    November 29, 2010 at 10:44 pm
    DCFS DCFS DCFS! and they don`t want to give loving gay couples adopted kids. what is wrong with this world.
  237. Profile photo of Batmanners
    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4006 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 10:46 pm
    @Thatjimguy "And the title is about Mormons....why? "
    @Korahn "why is it necessary to mention she`s a mormon in the title? "

    To quote the great Me.
    "She is abusive because she is Mormon. No other reason.

    This video is therefore proof that all Mormons are abusive parents, no exceptions. None of them, not one, is worthy of being a parent.

    There. You wanted to know what this video insinuated, well I just confirmed all your speculations about what the title said, and it is, in fact, all true."
    -Me 2010.
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 11:14 pm
    would people be so quick to defend other criminals if the went on tele to ask for forgiveness?
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    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
    192 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 11:14 pm
    umm depending on the child is if i find this wrong or not does this child respond to that discipline??? my girl i cannot spank her so she loses all privileges and that works on her my boy though dont care if he loses anything or timeouts so he has to get a spanking but what do you all want her to do send him to his room with his cable tv Xbox PS3 and wii and what lesson is that teaching funny i got spankings slaped in the mouth and things alot worse than what is seen here and OMG i am a productive member of the world either i am a rareity or that sort of punishment might actualy work just something to think about
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4006 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 11:14 pm
    I love how this convo is going...but the fact everyone is judging this woman based on 2 minutes of footage is appalling. Don`t be quick to judge. She is seeking and accepting help, and obviously didn`t go on Dr.Fail to go and be judged by all these uppity housewives.

    And, in all seriousness, the fact it says Mormon in the title does matter. Since Mormons pride themselves in Family values and love and understanding. Remember the old commercials for the Church of J.C. of Latter Day Saints? The kids messed up and the parents were loving and understanding?

    See:
    http://bit.ly/bLOR5
    http://bit.ly/gNI6Kk
    http://bit.ly/gtw8nB

    And that is why it mentions religion in the title.
  241. Profile photo of Volsunga
    Volsunga Male 18-29
    1548 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 11:16 pm
    I got the same treatment as a young kid. I don`t think it`s cruel. In fact, now I like hot sauce and cold showers. It`s disgusting that in this day and age, this is considered child abuse. It equates loving parents with the people who actually harm their kids. She is doing more harm to her kids by being a Mormon and indoctrinating them than she is by giving negative reinforcement.
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4006 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 11:18 pm
    @Mandingo:

    1. Learn to punctuate.
    2. Proof-read yourself.
    3. Correct yourself.
    4. If your son has a Tv, XBox, PS3 and a Wii in his room, don`t tell me you have nothing to take away from him.
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    phoneybone Male 18-29
    1744 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 11:18 pm
    just shows no matter what religion (or lack there of) people can be f*cked up

    Can`t we all just not get along and hate each other just for the sake of it?
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    RyanHake Male 18-29
    2690 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 11:35 pm
    A cold shower is just flat out torture to a little kid.
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 11:45 pm
    That is f*cking horrific. She should be taken outside and shot.

    Twice.

    Just to make sure.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
    6739 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 11:52 pm
    drating horriffic...
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    Gentle-Tramp Male 13-17
    498 posts
    November 29, 2010 at 11:55 pm
    thats just being mean
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    xXAmethystXx Female 18-29
    114 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 12:01 am
    the cold shower is too much
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    handys003 Male 50-59
    2402 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 12:02 am
    @Batmanners

    Somebody is full of hyperbole.
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    adlinbaby Female 18-29
    404 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 12:06 am
    awwwwwwwwwwwwwww I remember that feeling of being so scared of my parents when I would get in trouble :`(
  251. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 12:13 am
    umm depending on the child is if i find this wrong or not does this child respond to that discipline??? my girl i cannot spank her so she loses all privileges and that works on her my boy though dont care if he loses anything or timeouts so he has to get a spanking but what do you all want her to do send him to his room with his cable tv Xbox PS3 and wii and what lesson is that teaching funny i got spankings slaped in the mouth and things alot worse than what is seen here and OMG i am a productive member of the world either i am a rareity or that sort of punishment might actualy work just something to think about
    Mandingo, I have literally no idea what your point was. Learn 2 English, please.

    Blindly delving into the depths of your wild mind-gasm, it appears that you`re advocating some sort of child-torture of this type being appropriate to certain children, though I`m not certain of that.
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 12:13 am
    Look, I have a 4-year-old kid, I`m her dad, and she in turn is a little person. She also happens to be my best friend, though that is not a prerequisite.

    Screw religious affiliations etc, this isn`t about religion. Or adoptive parents, those are details here. What I witnessed here what just deeply, deeply wrong, on a very great number of levels.

    It`s a person. A small person, but a person nonetheless. Makes me sad.
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    kittehdee29 Female 18-29
    803 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 12:32 am
    @davymid, the problem with most people is that they don`t see their children as little people. There`s an age where trying to reason with your child won`t work (usually between 2 and 3, but of course it depends on the individual child), and a type a discipline, even if it`s just a time out, is necessary. Nowadays it seems as though parents either take it way too far or don`t discipline at all.
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    Happitec Male 18-29
    41 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 12:41 am
    ...And this child is going to be a teenager very soon. He is either going to resent the hell out of his mother if not knock her on her ass.

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    Necromantrix Female 18-29
    42 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 12:45 am
    That`s so horrible. It`s one thing to teach your kids right from wrong, it`s another thing to torture them. There`s a big difference between making a kid hold a mouthful of hot sauce like that and getting an ice-cold shower and a spanking, for one. Children`s taste buds are more highly attuned to tastes than ours are (which is why some things you didn`t like as a kid you like now and vice versa). I seriously doubt that a lot of the people in this room that are 18+ could hold hot sauce in their mouth as much as that kid did. That looked like it was at least a full tablespoon.

    I hope CAS comes after that mom.
  256. Profile photo of cookii
    cookii Female 18-29
    1299 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 12:45 am
    This was incredibly distressing just to watch. Poor child
  257. Profile photo of 10Bears
    10Bears Male 30-39
    452 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 12:47 am
    That kid has now learned that bullying and torture are acceptable forms of control. And through no fault of his own he will turn out a monster. But I suppose in the defence of the vile mother this could explain her own issues too? The only way now is to remove the child to break the cycle.
  258. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 12:48 am
    @davymid, the problem with most people is that they don`t see their children as little people. There`s an age where trying to reason with your child won`t work (usually between 2 and 3, but of course it depends on the individual child)
    Yep, got it. Like I said, she`s 4 now. By default, had to get past the 2 and 3, and we did alright.

    Meh, I have to apologise. I`ve gotten to the stage now where I don`t even know how I`m railing against anymore.

    All I know is, what I just saw was wrong. And I hate to pull that patronising "You don`t know until you`ve been a parent" bullcrap. People just know, fundamentally, instinctively, what`s right and wrong.
  259. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 12:50 am
    I`m slightly drunk and making an asshat of myself at this point, so I`m going to bow out on this light-hearted link on kids and parents from Louis CK for those who haven`t seen it yet.

    Don`t hate me too much.

    Hate Bleach

    Peace out.
  260. Profile photo of number43
    number43 Male 70 & Over
    759 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 1:11 am
    Who let a garbage pale kid have babies?!?!

    This is nuts, this is the kind of poo POWs go through.
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    razbitom Male 40-49
    913 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 1:14 am
    i think i would have preferred that instead of what i got.
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    coolbananas Female 18-29
    859 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 2:48 am
    That`s drated.
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    JoeyV Male 18-29
    18 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 3:45 am
    hehe reminds me of my mother sometimes,except she would drag me and put chili in my mouth. she would do that when i would learn new words. like bitch, & dumb ass ext. lmao
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    Atrayu4u Female 18-29
    1478 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 4:06 am
    Had to read through all those posts between mine and the end.

    Auburnjunky: "What if he grows up understanding cause and effect, while at the same time learning the importance of rules and good behavior?"

    `Understanding` and `learning` are well and good, and I hope that someday I can instill that into any future children I may have. But getting them to follow through in a positive, or at least, not negative way, is the challenge.

    Sbeelz: "I hate to promote Dr. Phil`s show, but those of you involved in this discussion who didn`t bother to Google this, it`d be worth checking out the page."

    I can appreciate the suggestion, but -this- link to -this- video is what we were given, and I, personally, am responding to only this video. Obviously nothing any of us say can help this woman with her situation, so doing the research to get so involved in it further isn`t worth my time. I just feel a bit bad for both the mom and son, that`s all. <
  265. Profile photo of FlamedNight
    FlamedNight Male 18-29
    395 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 4:11 am
    Thanks for the link Davymid!
  266. Profile photo of Flibmeister
    Flibmeister Female 18-29
    833 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 5:19 am
    this is drating evil. i am a parent to a 4 year old and there is no drating way i would EVER do that to my daughter!
  267. Profile photo of I-IS-BORED
    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 5:19 am
    ya! how dare he uhhh... pick up 3 cards?... were these satanic demon worshiping cards? did he steal 3 sets of nuclear launch codes and then use them? no? then wtf?
  268. Profile photo of zombunny
    zombunny Female 18-29
    2525 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 5:44 am
    I had to take a minute and come back to this because it made me so angry.

    All I can say is that she is only inviting bad behavior by abusing him this way. Of course he`s going to lie to avoid getting into trouble, because he is terrified of her. Children should trust their parents, not fear them. He is going to be a nightmare as a teen.
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    greggpethers Male 18-29
    271 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:03 am
    i hate the death penalty, i hate over reactions, and i firmly believe that law should be reason without passion.

    saying all that, i wouldn`t mind 5 minutes with this woman, and a bottle of hot sauce.

    sick. just awful. this legitimately made me feel repulsed.
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    bram Male 18-29
    577 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:15 am
    Oh man, wow. That woman needs to have her kids taken away. Where is her husband? He`s cool with this?
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    MSWright88 Female 18-29
    45 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:22 am
    @I-IS-BORED, in American elementary schools, alot of teachers have things set up that when you get in trouble in class, you have to pull a card under your name. The first time is a warning, the second is usually a punishment, like not getting to go to recess, the third is most likely a trip to the principle and a letter to your parents. She was over reacting about it. If I pulled a card or two, I got grounded from t.v. so I made sure to not do it anymore.
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    ashtonsgirlh Female 18-29
    37 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:24 am
    That is straight child abuse... they should take him from her, poor kid will be traumatised,
  273. Profile photo of chrunchy
    chrunchy Male 30-39
    77 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:24 am
    since when do you spell moron with two m`s?
  274. Profile photo of Cashaviola
    Cashaviola Female 18-29
    108 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:28 am
    Seen this mean personbag on Dr. Phil....I hope he got that boy taken away. He is a twin, the other is treated like gold. I hope she rots in hell, I just want to grab that nasty hair of hers and punch her in the face.
  275. Profile photo of Cashaviola
    Cashaviola Female 18-29
    108 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:30 am
    Seen this mean personbag on Dr. Phil....I hope he got that boy taken away. He is a twin, the other is treated like gold. I hope she rots in hell, I just want to grab that nasty hair of hers and punch her in the face. And the Cards that the boy is talking about is like a grading system to let the parents know how the kids were that day in school. I don`t care what he did, he didn`t deserve hot sauce and a cold shower.
  276. Profile photo of Lukgeezy
    Lukgeezy Male 18-29
    606 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:32 am
    mmm Tapitaio.... poor kid will never know the wonders of Hot sauce bc he was tramatuized by it!
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    Fuego Male 40-49
    1287 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:48 am
    I`d like 30 minutes alone with her and a substantial quantity of pure capsaicin.
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    bluevayero Male 18-29
    226 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 7:07 am
    this is a future murderer. and i will be happy to help him become a serial killer
  279. Profile photo of flexus
    flexus Male 30-39
    50 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 7:08 am
    when this kid gets older and can defend himself this "mum" is going to need protecing kids never forget abuse like that also as some others have pointed out the only thing the kid has learnt here bullying and torture get you what you want this poor kid is going to end up in prison at some point

    if this is what a religion teaches you can keep it
  280. Profile photo of yepimbored
    yepimbored Male 30-39
    131 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 7:19 am
    You can`t spank kids, yell at them, hurt their feelings, or anything these days. I`m old enough now to have seen some kids born in the 90`s to liberal softie parents that let their kids "explore" and do whatever the hell they wanted to- now that they`re teenagers, quite a few already have pretty extensive arrest records, gang affiliation, etc.

    It`s hot sauce and cold water. Yeah, mom went on way too long but at least the kid will learn consequences of his behavior.

    For you teens out there- we didn`t have kids holding classrooms hostage and shooting people in the 80`s and early 90`s. Columbine with some coddled precious snowflake goth attention-starved wimps started all that crap.
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    TokioKoos Female 18-29
    412 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 7:30 am
    @yepimbored: I also grew up in the 80s and 90s and yes, my parents spanked me sometimes. But they never, ever gave me hot sauce or cold showers. That just goes way too far! She went on for waaaay too long.

    If kids become scared of going to their parents for anything, that`s when it`s abuse. Do you think this kid is going to come to his mum for comfort when he`s scraped his knee or had a bad dream? I don`t think so.
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    FAKEBACON Male 18-29
    586 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 7:30 am
    @Fuego - Kinky...
  283. Profile photo of martinikene
    martinikene Male 18-29
    306 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 7:41 am
    Wonder where she lives...
  284. Profile photo of Antithet
    Antithet Male 18-29
    41 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 7:42 am
    Surprise, surprise some old bastards going on about how they got hit and they`re fine when they are just as messed up as kids in this generation. So keep your vast generalisations to yourself

    Violence towards children is wrong and it doesn`t make children any better a person learning things that way. Children can be taught morals and proper behaviour without having to get punished like that.
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    Skadi Female 18-29
    82 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 7:46 am
    OH MY GOD. I have a feeling ... i want to hit that cxxt in the face. Right know. If i would have been in the audience, i probably would have entered the stage and hit her so hard, straight to the face. Oh my god, i am so angry. what a fuxxxng ...
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    sweetrebelnc Female 18-29
    847 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 7:57 am
    Growing up in a military household, I got PTed when I got in trouble. Sometimes In front of my friends. I thought that was bad. This was absolutely awful. I don`t usually say this but I hope DSS goes in and takes her kids. No one but war criminals deserves this.
  287. Profile photo of TheNineXXX
    TheNineXXX Male 18-29
    395 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 8:07 am
    This made me furious! I wouldn`t be upset if this woman was harmed in some way.
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    impretybored Male 18-29
    151 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 8:10 am
    @davymid
    Haha thanks, i was getting worked up from this stupid parent, but your link made me laugh
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    Beastette205 Female 18-29
    8 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 8:11 am
    @martinikene with a little searching, anchorage alaska
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36850 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 8:13 am
    Eye for an Eye

    give her a Hot Sauce Douche
    &
    Ice Cold Water-Boarding

    fair is fair, after all.
  291. Profile photo of Deviros
    Deviros Male 18-29
    535 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 8:14 am
    Not saying it`s fake or anything - i`ve already left a comment about how much this is like torture - but what sort of video camera displays a "REC" symbol along with a red dot on it`s OUTPUT? Also, this lady seems woefully unaware that she`s being recorded.

    I don`t know about you, but wen someone`s pointing a camera at me, i NOTICE, and i def notice if there`s a red light.

    Also - it seems odd that she closes the bathroom door in the manner she does.

    Finally - for the film to have been taken by her "daughter" - whom we can only assume is not a professional videographer and is probably not MUCH older than her son, this video is awful steady and the angles are really really really good, not to mention that the height of the video camera changes several times throughout the video - even to the point of being TALLER than the "mormon."

    This is one hell of a home video.
  292. Profile photo of kingpong
    kingpong Male 18-29
    639 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 8:37 am
    Oh my god, non-permanent harm that goes away after a maximum of 30 minutes. I wish that was how my parents punished me. I think it`s actually a clever and fairly reasonable punishment, way better than anything I ever got.
  293. Profile photo of 420foy
    420foy Male 18-29
    671 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 8:38 am
    that bitch is goin DOWN
  294. Profile photo of Pheeshy5
    Pheeshy5 Male 18-29
    1312 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 8:38 am
    What a bitch, there`s so many other ways to handle that kind of stuff. Just spank the kid and send him to his room with no dinner. That was pure torture for that child. If you`re going to adopt a child, at least try to be a decent human being. What a monster.
  295. Profile photo of pumba62
    pumba62 Male 40-49
    1018 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 8:56 am
    This video clip sure has struck a note with the I-A-Ber`s...and justifiably so ......this is deplorable behavior from this woman.
    Talk about a control freak. don`t you dare spit that out ....I would have spit it in her face right in eyes.
    I was thinking where is daddy? I bet with a biotch like that in the house he`s down at the closest boobie bar escaping one of his choices for a life partner.
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    teddyboy11 Male 18-29
    101 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 9:05 am
    Submit it to AFHV.
  297. Profile photo of freebee
    freebee Female 30-39
    72 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 9:12 am
    OMG I cannot watch, This is making me tear up. The cries of that poor little boy. There are plenty of other effective ways to teach a lesson. Extra chore, loss of privileges, writing lines....Oh I hope they took that boy from her, she does not deserve to be in charge of anyone`s life. drating Bitch!
  298. Profile photo of Damngreens
    Damngreens Male 18-29
    163 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 9:19 am
    lmao i don`t think any doctor actually use there first name besides Doctor phil -_-
  299. Profile photo of Cartunze
    Cartunze Male 60-69
    841 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 9:40 am
    I don`t see the connection to Mormonism. Was Jessica in one of those new Mormon commercials or something? This is just child abuse. I guess she thought it was okay because she filmed it.
  300. Profile photo of Ryan22158
    Ryan22158 Male 18-29
    418 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 9:51 am
    Wow that brought back to many bad memories. I can understand being harsh on children, just not in this way or at this age. The kids like 6 give him a break and WTF is up with the cold shower thing? Sit him on the steps for five minutes until he fesses up. All this is going to make him into a drated up teenager. Also, the kids adopted where the hell is the government? This bitch doesn`t deserve to have another child.
  301. Profile photo of EntrE
    EntrE Male 18-29
    535 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 9:59 am
    I am so angry after watching this! best thing would have been if the audience beat her up!
  302. Profile photo of Kegomatix
    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 10:04 am
    Dang, what a bitch... Hopefully she doesn`t get to keep that kid. I just make my son sit in time out for a little while, or take his favorite toys for a bit... Thats enough to drive a little boy crazy.
  303. Profile photo of techstorm
    techstorm Male 40-49
    100 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 10:11 am
    I`ve seen and experienced some pretty twisted stuff but I had to stop it at the point when she made him drink the hot sauce. Maybe I`ll finish it but what really upsets me is that I started thinking that every day and night thousands of little kids are abused even far worse than him by the people who are supposed to love and protect them from mess like this. It`s a wonder we ever made it as a species with people like her among us.
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    trilliongram Female 18-29
    135 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 10:24 am
    I hope the end of that segment included handcuffs and a social services worker.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    7066 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 10:28 am
    She`s a bully plain and simple. If fear pain and screaming are part of you parenting methods then you are doing it wrong.
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    rowanita Female 18-29
    15 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 10:30 am
    Wow. That made me cry, I want to find that little boy and give him a hug. People like that shouldn`t be parents...it`s disgusting.
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    turbopuppy Male 30-39
    158 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 10:31 am
    Personally I don`t care for mormons because I actually live with them and they are difficult people. That being said, this "mother`s" tactics really have nothing wo to with being mormon - just *ucking crazy.
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    trilliongram Female 18-29
    135 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 10:33 am
    I`d like to reiterate something said earlier:

    "10Bears
    Male, 30-39, Europe
    Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:47:38 AM
    That kid has now learned that bullying and torture are acceptable forms of control."
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    mongoos3 Female 18-29
    36 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 10:48 am
    This has made me so angry and upset! she clearly thinks this is acceptable behavior (hence I guess allowing the filming) and it makes me want to punch this woman in the face so hard right now. The childs punishment in itself may only last half an hour but the emotional damage she is causing that poor boy... that will last a lifetime. I would never even consider the possibility of using any of these punishments on my children. quite frankly horrific viewing. thank you I-A-B for leaving everyone with an icky feeling in their gut today.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
    2374 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 11:00 am
    That was the most godawful thing I`ve ever seen.

    I`m talking about her hair, of course.

    Her treatment of the child was also criminal. What a *itch.
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    nkslover Female 18-29
    30 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 11:08 am
    This was on Dr. Phil last week.
  312. Profile photo of Lorah
    Lorah Female 18-29
    1784 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 11:15 am
    that poor sweet baby boy. he is ruined for life :(
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    nastyn800 Male 18-29
    174 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 11:27 am
    Holy cow what a C U N T
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    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
    798 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 11:35 am
    Auburnjunky: LOLWUT

    Go look at the first few pages.
    lern2IAB
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    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
    798 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 11:39 am
    I`ll have to agree with others commenting on how malicious she is when she`s telling him what he did wrong.

    YOU HID THE CARDS FROM ME HUH? YEAH YOU DID! YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GET NOW? HUH? YOU GET THE HOT SAUCE! YEAH, EAT IT UP.. YOU LIKE HOW IT BURNS?? DO YA PUNK?!?
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    OmgZelda Female 18-29
    1593 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 11:58 am
    :(

    I don`t even know how to word the rage that I`m feeling. My 5 day old is sleeping next to me and I can`t imagine doing 1/100th of the punishment this twatwaffle bitch put on that poor little boy.
  317. Profile photo of premierwondr
    premierwondr Male 18-29
    975 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 12:02 pm
    I think i can safely say that anyone who doesn`t find this wrong got really harsh punishments as a child, so in your eyes this is p*ssy poo.

    I`ve never been touched by my parents, only time-outs, taking away the power cord for my computer, and being grounded kept me in check.

    This poo almost made me cry tbh
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    hugobravo Male 30-39
    46 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 12:45 pm
    :(
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    hugobravo Male 30-39
    46 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 12:48 pm
    drating bitch!!
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    agentsmith41 Male 18-29
    27 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 1:01 pm
    Im sorry, but, while im sure im going to be the minority here, i really dont believe for one second that what this mother does is all that bad. Punishment isnt supposed to be pleasant. Kids cry when they`re being punished. It happens. He`s not going to be emotionally scarred from this.

    People keep talking about giving him a time out or something less severe. Give me a break! Do you idiots see how kids behave today? Telling teachers to f*ck off, being disrespectful, having no respect for authority. It`s all because we give them time outs instead of a real punishment that they truly regret. Am i saying we should beat our children? Absolutely not. It`s hot sauce and a cold shower. But seriously? Give me a break. I was spanked and hit as a child and i live a fairly successful life. I have a good job a great family, good people skills. I show respect to authority.

    Keep giving your kids a little time out and see how they turn out.
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    Maromi Female 18-29
    1095 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 1:38 pm
    :(
    Jesus, why the drat is this on Dr. Phil?
  322. Profile photo of Digital_Babu
    Digital_Babu Male 30-39
    77 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 1:44 pm
    @agentsmith41

    "Give me a break. I was spanked and hit as a child and i live a fairly successful life. I have a good job a great family, good people skills. I show respect to authority."

    And you lack empathy and are a conformist, good for you.
  323. Profile photo of Fatninja01
    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 1:52 pm
    Wow, somepeople shoudnt be allowed to have a child, i wouldnt never go that far for something like that, wait till that child rebells!
  324. Profile photo of Biz80
    Biz80 Female 40-49
    25 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 1:55 pm
    I want to beat this b!tch senseless! I have adopted two children and the #1 thing that any sensible person knows is that children who have gone through the adoption process have already been traumatized or lived through trauma and let me tell you....I would like to show her a bit of it myself!
  325. Profile photo of TPGman
    TPGman Male 13-17
    26 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 2:08 pm
    I`m no parent. But I don`t really see the big deal in this one. When I was young, my dad would give me some hell. I used to think that it was bit much, but did I ever forget to feed the dog again? no. Did I ever forget to lock the door again? no. All my dad had to do was yell, and I would end up crying just like that.
    Nobody has any idea what that kid does at school. But I would guess, since the kid already knew what he gets for doing certain things, that he has "pulled cards" (whatever that means) before.
    The kid didn`t learn his lesson, so she punishes him again. If it was so "cruel" then he would have stopped getting in trouble.
    But that`s just my point of view, but then again, there IS a lot of untold story here.
  326. Profile photo of tyger9575
    tyger9575 Male 30-39
    297 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 2:14 pm
    @agentsmith41

    Could you be any ignorant or self-righteous? You call others idiots because they disagree with you. I`m willing to bet the same thing was done to you as a child, but you`re too short-sighted to see the sick effects the abuse you suffered. Are you more awake now, Sleeper? Oh, right, you`re Agent Smith. The one who seeks to destroy the freedoms of all others. The signs stack up quicker and quicker... just sayin`... :)
  327. Profile photo of agentsmith41
    agentsmith41 Male 18-29
    27 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 2:17 pm
    @Digital_Babu

    I lack empathy because i dont feel this is half as bad as some other form of punishment i`ve endured in my life?

    I hardly believe making a child take a cold shower as a form of punishment is even close to child abuse. Nor is putting hot sauce in their mouth. Again, punishment isnt supposed to be fun. Giving a child a time out gives them a false sense of what punishment is supposed to be and hardly gives them an idea of being held accountable for their actions.

    Kids these days are embedded with the thought that, if you`re spanked, your parents are horrible people and should be thrown in jail. I`ll admit theres a fine line between what is an acceptable form of punishment and what isn`t. But letting kids get away with bad behavior by just giving them a time out only tells them that life is the same way and that they`ll only get a simple slap on the wrist whenever they do wrong.
  328. Profile photo of agentsmith41
    agentsmith41 Male 18-29
    27 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 2:21 pm
    @tyger9575

    I never suffered abuse. I was punished for my wrong doings and i learned from them. Give your child a time out whenever they do wrong and watch how they develop a false sense of what punishment is and how life isn`t so forgiving. I learned from my punishments. I understood that i was being punished for doing wrong and i made sure i never did it again. A time out is hardly an unforgettable punishment to learn from. Again, I`m not saying we need to beat our children but a time out hardly does the job.
  329. Profile photo of britt566
    britt566 Female 18-29
    2290 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 2:22 pm
    sadly i witnessed this type of action on a 4 year old child except worse. I was too young at the time to do anything about it and i was too coward to call children services...
  330. Profile photo of britt566
    britt566 Female 18-29
    2290 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 2:24 pm
    but the things i would do to punish all of the child abusers in this world nowadays...
  331. Profile photo of Amurika
    Amurika Male 30-39
    282 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 2:33 pm
    like her fat ass didnt stay out of the cookie jar when she was little. phuckin dork.
  332. Profile photo of britt566
    britt566 Female 18-29
    2290 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 3:00 pm
    i looked up a site that stated that the boy received three discipline cards in his elementary school for throwing pencils, sword-fighting with another child, and acting out in another class.

    that the hot sauce method was received from one of the parents friends, and the cold shower method was because the father was in the military and thats how it was done there.
  333. Profile photo of ilfg
    ilfg Male 18-29
    336 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 3:02 pm
    this makes the original listerine I suffered through nothing.

    2 pointers for the kid:
    -pick your battles
    -practice makes perfect
  334. Profile photo of wahface
    wahface Female 18-29
    40 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 3:20 pm
    here`s a link to the Dr Phil page that summarises that episode

    Here
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    LiRoMiKe Male 30-39
    1 post
    November 30, 2010 at 4:02 pm
    This is the most soul-wrenching thing I`ve seen in a long time. I have two boys that age so I can`t help but be outraged.

    I hope that airing this on public TV meant that a child welfare agency intervened and removed that poor kid from her custody. I really, really hope that this was part of a message that the TV show aired to give abused kids hope for a way out and abusive parents a means of intervention. Anything less and they`d be using this as a ratings troll.

    And why is the title "... and I`m a Mormon"? WTF does religion have to do with child abuse besides troll more rage? Sadly, anybody with any religious belief can mentally or physically abuse a child.

    Later IAB. I`m going offline to give my kids a hug. And as over-active, willful and defiant as they can sometimes be -- I`m going to have a hard time trying not to tear up.
  336. Profile photo of iLove
    iLove Female 18-29
    676 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 4:34 pm
    In response to britt566...

    One major difference between the military and grade school, though. This is a child and those are grown men and women. This woman needs to learn the difference.
  337. Profile photo of GreyYes
    GreyYes Female 18-29
    418 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 5:21 pm
    wow. honestly is this really that bad? i mean, my mom would put hotsauce in our mouths when we said profanity or disrespected her. honestly, wasnt that bad. 100 years ago im sure hot baths/showers in a lot of countries were very rare. though he must of done something really bad for a cold shower, that would suck.

    the mom isnt nearly as bad as a lot of abusive parents out there. she is strict, her kids might not like her much now but in the future they will be thankful. better than having a loose parent who doesnt give a damn about what you do.
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    dreadqueen00 Female 18-29
    331 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 5:41 pm
    I didn`t think much about this until the shower. Ever try to take an ice cold shower? It`s more than miserable. Poor little kid...that`s no way to parent.
  339. Profile photo of kula35
    kula35 Male 18-29
    159 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 5:51 pm
    The peculiar thing is that if nothing changes that kid will probably end up on the streets or really messed up (like on drugs). Any friends that I had as a kid that had very strict parents had that happen to them.
  340. Profile photo of Spider_sol
    Spider_sol Male 18-29
    1452 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:09 pm
    Couldn`t even watch this. Has /b/ ruined her life yet?
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    LookItsLeia Female 13-17
    55 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:11 pm
    People like this should by law have to get a tube ligation, or a vasectomy.
  342. Profile photo of Spider_sol
    Spider_sol Male 18-29
    1452 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:12 pm
    BTW OmgZelda, twatwaffle has to be the best word I`ve heard in a long time.
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    MrsPoods Female 18-29
    547 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:42 pm
    There`s a special place in hell for that bitch. Oh and fyi the military doesn`t pull that crap anymore either.
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    Uncertainty Female 18-29
    196 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:45 pm
    Spider_sol, the avenging hand of the internet needs to happen soon. Anonymous will find this video eventually.
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    imlaramarie Female 18-29
    154 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:45 pm
    this has nothing on my childhood... I mean the cold shower was a little hard to watch but I`ve seen A LOT worse... not that any of it is good... hot sauce I don`t think is ALL that bad... I wouldn`t do it as a parent but I`ve seen MANY parents do it... kid should have swallowed it though...
  346. Profile photo of jendrian
    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:46 pm
    @LookItsLeia, the kid was adopted from Russia
  347. Profile photo of imlaramarie
    imlaramarie Female 18-29
    154 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:49 pm
    oh and btw... the kid is most definitely not ruined for life; that is absolutely absurd. I went through things WAY WAY WAY worse then this and I`ve turned out great if I do say so myself. I`m an excellent mother and a good person. My brother on the other hand is a pill popping alcoholic; but you can`t win them all.
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    MrsPoods Female 18-29
    547 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 6:52 pm
    laramarie, when one of your kids turns out to be a pill popping alcoholic, I hope you can just shrug your shoulders because after all, "you can`t win em all." My parents NEVER used physical punishment on any of us. EVER. And not one of my brothers or sisters is a pill popping alcoholic. Huh... guess you can win em all.
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    ericka225 Female 18-29
    219 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 7:45 pm
    well you have to punish them some how i mean damn atleast they arnt beating the child it just made him uncomfortable its not hurting him at all
  350. Profile photo of meogE
    meogE Male 18-29
    17 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 7:50 pm
    I think the punishments are a little strange but not that big of a deal. The thing I think is a problem is she repeats herself over and over, asking the consequences of his actions, I mean say it once to reinforce it but it seems like she`s going for psychological abuse and possibly enjoying it.
  351. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 7:59 pm
    Let me be the first to say that by all appearances Lara, I`d be inclined to agree ;-)
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
    11741 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 8:19 pm
    That bitch should have her kids taken away, and she should be thrown in jail where the other inmates can severly f u c k her ass up. People like that should get what they give. I`d love to tie her ass up and do that sh it to her. What a completely stupid bitch. She`s lucky I don`t know her.
  353. Profile photo of Oster
    Oster Male 40-49
    104 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 8:23 pm
    She blames her actions on the child when she asks him to why he she is choosing to be cruel and abusive. Unnatural consequences which would not be inflicted upon the adult. How does this prepare the child for society?

    Of course he lied. How else was he going to escape her cruel and unusual punishment?
  354. Profile photo of I-IS-BORED
    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 8:53 pm
    so kid acts out a bit at school and this happens to him, mother does this to child and what`s her punishment?
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    XxSpitfirexX Female 18-29
    88 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 10:30 pm
    wow, what a bitch.
    I hope she gets explosive diarrhea for the rest of her liiiife.
  356. Profile photo of Jackson13W
    Jackson13W Male 30-39
    155 posts
    November 30, 2010 at 10:33 pm
    This clip is out of context. this woman was on Dr. Phil seeking help. go look up the episode and watch it, then stop jumping to conclusions about 5.01% of a 60 min. program.
  357. Profile photo of sylphies
    sylphies Female 18-29
    282 posts
    December 1, 2010 at 7:33 am
    uhm yeah, I support spanking. A few smacks on the ass is the most a kid should fear from their parent, and that`s only if they`re being REALLY goddam bratty. That`s what I`d get as a kid, and it kept me in line and out of trouble with authorities.

    This however is going too far. I can`t stand temperature hot foods, and even less things that are taste-wise hot, not only that but even after he washes his mouth out, it`s still going to burn.
  358. Profile photo of MikeyMystic
    MikeyMystic Female 13-17
    1 post
    December 1, 2010 at 8:42 am
    @Jackson13W

    Does it matter that she was looking for help or not?
    Yeah, shes getting help, thats great.
    But its still reall horrifying that she does that to a child and its painful to watch.
  359. Profile photo of Nutimik
    Nutimik Male 18-29
    59 posts
    December 1, 2010 at 9:34 am
    3 cards? Wut?
  360. Profile photo of peahprincess
    peahprincess Female 13-17
    137 posts
    December 1, 2010 at 1:12 pm
    i started feeling bad for the kid but when he started crying i just started getting so annoyed. i still feel bad though
  361. Profile photo of FraggleShizz
    FraggleShizz Female 18-29
    12 posts
    December 1, 2010 at 1:28 pm
    I don`t care if people think this is out of context because she is seeking help. Screw that! This woman is clearly a mental case. Nobody with any ounce of love for a child would do that. Just because she is asking for help doesn`t make it okay. Why would anyone adopt a child and then subject them to this level of abuse? I wish bad AIDS upon her, the world would be a better place without her.
  362. Profile photo of idiotfilter
    idiotfilter Male 18-29
    3916 posts
    December 1, 2010 at 1:50 pm
    nothing says innovative and productive member of society like "listen to your teacher and never question your elders!" "now get punished and do this to your kids but worse when you are my age!"

    anyone else want to see her butchered by The Phil`s audience Maury-style?
  363. Profile photo of samidoll
    samidoll Female 18-29
    615 posts
    December 1, 2010 at 2:33 pm
    anyone vouching at all in any sense for this woman "seeking to get help" needs to set the video to 2:14 and listen to the screams of a child being forced to sit under cold water, being yelled at, and humiliated.

    as a future educator, i would rather a kid punch me in the f<>cking face than go through this. i`d rather have any pain inflicted on me, and any stress taken out on me, than have any child suffer like this. ANY child.
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    samidoll Female 18-29
    615 posts
    December 1, 2010 at 2:35 pm
    that was directed at you, jackson. you`re heartless if you can listen to that child cry out for help and still think we`re judging out of context. i don`t know you, but i hate people with misplaced compassion like you.
  365. Profile photo of Chadsey
    Chadsey Female 40-49
    9 posts
    December 1, 2010 at 4:41 pm
    THIS WOMAN IS A BITCH AND I`D LIKE TO PUT HER IN THE SHOWER
  366. Profile photo of Atrayu4u
    Atrayu4u Female 18-29
    1478 posts
    December 1, 2010 at 8:16 pm
    Peahprincess, please never have children. What you just said reminds me of the chick who killed her kid because he was `annoying` her while she was playing facebook games.

    Also, i-am-bored.com, please just take away the profanity filter.. we all find a way around it anyway.
  367. Profile photo of Metum
    Metum Male 13-17
    155 posts
    December 1, 2010 at 10:00 pm
    lets shower her with cold hot sauce muahahaha
  368. Profile photo of skyblue_15
    skyblue_15 Female 18-29
    193 posts
    December 1, 2010 at 11:45 pm
    that`s just awful. there`s a line in physical punishment and that definitely went eons beyond that line.
  369. Profile photo of skyblue_15
    skyblue_15 Female 18-29
    193 posts
    December 1, 2010 at 11:48 pm
    agentsmith. a cold shower and hot sauce to the mouth does not compare to the taps and small hits we got as kids.
  370. Profile photo of DJRedeye
    DJRedeye Male 30-39
    14 posts
    December 2, 2010 at 1:48 pm
    This is disgusting. Pure child abuse. This women should be put away. Nasty B$%th!!
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    wpgpeanut Female 30-39
    11 posts
    December 4, 2010 at 7:38 am
    This is sick and made me cry... I just don`t understand some people.
  372. Profile photo of ANb82
    ANb82 Male 18-29
    8 posts
    December 5, 2010 at 1:28 pm
    cool haircut
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    DrkAng3LxNat Female 18-29
    1071 posts
    December 12, 2010 at 2:25 am
    holy crappppppp that is sick

    that might emotionally scar that kid for life

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