FDA Demands New Cigarette Package Regulation

Submitted by: Gerry1of1 6 years ago in
http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/health/2010/11/10/2010-11-10_fda_proposes_putting_graphic_images_onto_package_of_cigarettes_to_deter_smoking.html

Graphic pics to be required on packs of fags. So much for trying to look cool and sexy while smoking.
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Male 3
damn smokeing you scary
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Female 149
Well I already don`t smoke and that stuff is still pretty disturbing to me, and I look at some drated-up stuff. I feel kinda bad for cigarette addicts. I mean, I`ve smoked tobacco before in pipes and I guess hookah counts. The taste and the soothing sensation you get is nice but to be addicted to actual cigarettes must suck; they smell like horsepoo and make me sick just to be around. I can only tolerate tobacco when it is free of the messed-up additives the companies put in it.
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Female 296
drat OFF!!! IF I HAVE TO DEAL WITH HORRIBLE PICTURES ON MY PACK THEN I WANT FETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME PICKS ON dratIN ALCOHOL BOTTLES. IF I WANNA SMOKE I DAMN WELL IF I dratIN PLEASE BITCHEZ.
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Male 136
this is JUST coming to the states... it`s been Canadian law for as long as i can remember. some of them are revolting like a lung that has been removed from a smokers body or a pic of a treychotomy (sp?)
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Male 218
So, am I supposed to feel sorry for the kid or laugh? Is the kid laughing or "special"?
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Male 14,331
That`s it I`m gonna be rich I`m going to start a brand called cancer sticks and put faces of death all over the package no boobies though thats bad!! People will eat it up I`m gonna be rich!!!!
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Male 237
We`ve had this for like 10 years in Canada already. Doesn`t do poo.
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Male 15,510
Was about time!
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Male 2,850
@ErinBtx

"and obamas big answer to social behaviors like smoking is to heavily tax them. this is supposed to fund the healthcare burden these evil smokers place on society. oh, wait. that doesn`t make sense. healthcare is free and doesn`t cost anyone anything!"

*sigh*

Are you really that stupid?

"Free" healthcare means "free at the point of use".

Don`t troll the debate with that moronic diatribe.
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Male 1,078
Well, all this is going to do is raise what it costs to make the pack, and then raise the price of cigarettes. again. like people said, the only way to stop smoking is to make it illegal. but even if they do, ill still smoke. weeds illegal and people still smoke it.
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Male 7
it has already been implemented in Romania .. didn`t stop me from smoking
http://www.criserb.com/blog/noile-pachete-de-tigari-poze.html
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Male 46
No matter how many dead babys they put on the boxes smoking still makes you look cool.
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Male 12,365
[quote]they need to put drunken car crashes and drunk driving victims on liquor and beer bottles next[/quote]

If you drive and crash every time you drink, the problem is you.

You want smoking and drink-driving treated the same way?

Really?

What happens if you get caught driving while drunk?
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Male 12,365
[quote]it`s amazing how idiots want to legislate laws against every single behavior they don`t like.[/quote]

It`s amazing how idiots think that`s a rational argument.

There are many things I don`t like. I don`t want to make laws against most of them.

If you believe that everyone who doesn`t want smoking imposed on them wants to outlaw everything they don`t like, you`re insane.

If you don`t believe it, you`re lying in order to slander your opponents.

Either way, you look bad.

[quote]no one stops for a minute to think of the consequence of allowing our government to decide what we can and cannot ingest. [/quote]

i) Unless you advocate the legalisation of all drugs, you`re contradicting yourself.

ii) It`s not about what you ingest. It`s about what you make other people inhale, the filth left by your drug use and who pays for your ill health as a result of your drug use. But mostly about what you make other peop
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Female 83
it`s amazing how idiots want to legislate laws against every single behavior they don`t like. and no one stops for a minute to think of the consequence of allowing our government to decide what we can and cannot ingest.

"why don`t they just make smoking illegal" is hilarious to me because IT IS ILLEGAL in any and all locations that any local, state or federal government deems it so.

and obamas big answer to social behaviors like smoking is to heavily tax them. this is supposed to fund the healthcare burden these evil smokers place on society. oh, wait. that doesn`t make sense. healthcare is free and doesn`t cost anyone anything!

this just made me crave a cigarette and i don`t smoke.
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Male 767
they need to put drunken car crashes and drunk driving victims on liquor and beer bottles next
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Male 724
What`s wrong with the current labels? Yeah, it`s a bad habit, and I`m glad I didn`t smoke, even though I did grow up in a family full of smokers, but seriously, this is just pretentious and stupid. People are going to smoke regardless of how many times you tell them it`s bad for them. People like to try new things, rebel, and find out what they like on their own. Quit trying to tell people how to live.
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Male 12,365
[quote]If their going to try this hard to get people to not smoke, just make it fcking illegal![/quote]

i) That would be a good way to lose the next election.

ii) Look how well prohibition worked for alcohol in your country.

Making it illegal wouldn`t work without overwhelming support from the people and maybe not even then. It`s extremely hard to stop drug use that`s so deeply engrained into a society.

You can`t use reason either, because it`s such an arsebrained way to take a rather pointless drug that no-one using reason does it. They`re immune to reason.

Yes! I will blight my health, risk a foul death, harm everyone near me and maybe give them a foul death, make myself, my clothes and everything near me stink and coat everything around me with a veneer of stinking filth in order to take a drug that doesn`t have much effect that I could easily take in a clean way for less money!

No-one can think that and be rational.
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Male 12,365
All these freedom-destroying, holier-than-thou douchenozzles that that want to strip people who like to spray urine on everyone near by of their rights at every turn make me sick. Get a life. If you don`t want to spray urine on people without their consent, good for you. i do, so leave me alone.

I don`t, of course. I`m just making a point.

Feel free to try a counter-argument, bridog6996. I say that knowing you don`t have one.
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Male 571
All these freedom-destroying, holier-than-thou douchenozzles that that want to strip smokers of their rights at every turn make me sick. Get a life. If you don`t want to smoke, good for you. i do, so leave me alone.
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Male 2,868
"while they`re at it, there should be pictures of fat bastard on packets of chips."

Exactly. Scapegoating cigs as the ultimate threat to human health is stupid, and ignores the broader pattern of behaviors that negatively impact people`s health. I see no problem with informing people of the risks of certain products (even the Wii has a warning about the importance of using the wrist-strap), but I think the principle is applied fairly unevenly. Bottles of night train should have to have close-up pictures of bums` faces.

Honestly though, wouldn`t it be awesome if every McDonald`s add had to have at least one morbidly obese person in it? They`d hide them in the background, but they`d be there. It`d be like a game trying to find the fat person in the McDonald`s ad.
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Male 1,523
@popo38

I would agree, but smokers will do anything for their smokes... Lots of people would start getting arrested.
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Male 325
I like to smoke around people that look like they`re for this crap.
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Female 335
If their going to try this hard to get people to not smoke, just make it fcking illegal!
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Female 3,598
"while they`re at it, there should be pictures of fat bastard on packets of chips"
Hells yes. if they are gonna take it this far, (like canada) they might as well say that all fast food restaurants have to be named Tub`O`Lard or something...
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Male 150
Dude those pictures will make you look SO COOL!!!!
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Male 2,868
People keep saying that smokers already know the risk involved in smoking, but this study suggests otherwise.
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Female 355
This is ridiculous, I don`t even smoke and I`m annoyed by the new packaging. ugh. However, People are going to find the simple solution, The metal/plastic cigarette cases they sell in tobacco stores.
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Male 26
We have them in Australia, and they haven`t changed a thing. When you see a shelf full of the pictures, and are constantly subjected to the images on every packet, desensitization comes very quickly.
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Male 43
while they`re at it, there should be pictures of fat bastard on packets of chips
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Male 448
Even when you know the dangers of smoking, a picture on a pack of cigarettes won`t stop you from doing so. I think there will a big industry that will produce sleeves for the packs just so you won`t see the pics.
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Male 2,868
"a smoker will smoke, no matter what."

By that reasoning, nobody ever quits smoking- which is obviously untrue.

Also, why is everyone going on about freedom in this thread? Warning labels in no way impede the freedom of smokers. Banning cigarettes would- which is a terrible solution to the problem.
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Male 2,868
As far as effectiveness goes, this study suggests that smokers in the US, UK, Australia and Canada are not, in fact, well informed when it comes to the health risks associated with smoking. Other research shows that people who have all of the facts about the health risks are more likely to try to quit. However I haven`t seen any evidence as to the efficacy of these warning labels in actually increasing the numbers of people who quit.
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Male 3,076
they need option three :Yes, visuals are more effective than words but a smoker will smoke, no matter what.
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Female 2,695
i really think the only way to get people to stop smoking would be to outlaw it, and even then people will still do it. everyone already knows that smoking can cause cancer and is bad for you and those around you- a person is going to smoke no matter what, the only thing changing the packaging is going to do is inspire someone to market pack covers
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Female 3,001
i think there already mandatory in Britain (well similar pictures anyway)
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Female 136
That`s what they consider graphic? Let me show them a medical journal some time, or the internet for that matter.
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Male 2,868
Although in all fairness, I should mention that taking good care of yourself can have its own costs. Some studies suggest that people who don`t smoke and who eat right and exercise may actually end up spending more on healthcare than people who don`t take care of themselves because they live longer. Long life is a major risk factor for cancer and other illnesses. So really, it`s people who stay healthy and then die suddenly at a relatively young age who contribute the most and take the least from the insurance system.
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Male 2,868
@mrpuddle-
You obviously do need to be schooled, because you don`t seem to understand the basic premise of insurance. You talk about $6000-$7000 for each "cycle." I assume you mean chemotherapy? You weren`t very clear there. So you came up with ONE scenario where your benefits don`t outstrip your premiums- a scenario where you get cancer and cure it in one course of treatment and never get another illness. So what? Smoking causes more than just lung cancer, and often leads to chronic conditions that require years upon years of medications and hospitalizations.

Health insurance would be totally pointless if nobody ever got paid more in benefits than they pay in premiums- you might as well just set up a savings account that you only use for medical care. People who don`t take good care of their health are more likely to get more than they give when it comes to their insurance policy.
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Male 101
@ifeelfine
Singapore`s gov`ment sucks donkey dick... lol
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Male 12,365
[quote]WHAAAAT!!! Cigarettes can kill you? Why haven`t anybody told me this![/quote]

Which is why these pictures are pointless. They were pointless here in the UK and various posters from various countries have confirmed they were pointless in their countries too.

You could label every pack with "I am a stinking, callous low-class fool with no style" and it wouldn`t affect sales. It might even increase them - manufacturers could use different fonts and encourage people to collect a full set, with one or two being very rare.

Putting labels on anything that just tell people what they already know is a waste of time other than protecting a business from being sued by people who claim they didn`t know.

I was idly reading the packaging while microwaving something last night and the warning message read "This product is hot when heated". Seriously.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Angilion, we all know that you are one of the most infamous trolls on here so this will be my one and only reply to you.[/quote]

Nice of you to admit that you have no counter-argument at all.

Which I knew already, of course.

Trolls don`t have a real argument. I do.
Trolls` posts aren`t internally consistet. Mine are.

You aren`t stupid enough to think I`m a troll. You`re just using ad hominem because you don`t have anything better.
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Female 149
It`s already here in my country.

a wild pack of cigarettes appears! Singaporean Government used Graphic Images! It`s not very effective...

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Male 5,189
I think I need a smoke.
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Male 39,902
Damn liberals!

And yes, you know it`s the liberal Democrats at work here trying to make people behave the way they want them to.

Conservative Republicans don`t care if you smoke! They don`t care if you burn! They only care about how they can make a profit off it.
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Male 2,591
All of these dumbass ideas clearly come from lifetime non-smokers. That poobull will never work!

Why don`t they figure out a damn way to grow nicotine-less tobacco? Then make nicotine illegal. All cigarettes will contain no nicotine. Gradually people will smoke less and less. Longtime smokers may still light up until they die, but new smokers won`t get addicted and smoking won`t become a habit anymore. In 20 years, smoking tobacco will be more of a novelty than anything else. Cigarettes will go the way of patent medicine.
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Female 1,427
"I do not see the point. People who smoke already don`t give a poo about the consequences."

Damn straight. I smoke. It`s my fix, and while I could go about and justify it by claiming there`s a bajillion other things I could be doing but I don`t, blah blah blah.

I smoke, and I don`t give a damn if they start posting ugly pics on the packs. This just gives smokers an incentive to go out and buy a fancy cigarette case. I got one a year ago; my cigs are never in their original pack.

Hell, this might drive packs down a tad bit in price, even. Hahaha.
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Male 792
Didn`t work that well in Canada.
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Male 39,902
Other products should have bad side-effect photos...

Alcohol - photo waking up next to ugly chick

Big Mac - photo of fat ass

flat TV - photo of Kardashians

iPod - photo of Beiber

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Male 385
Take away a little bit of the freedom and people won`t get too freaked. In a few years, the result is that the Constitution is gone, and no one noticed.
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Male 385
Angilion, we all know that you are one of the most infamous trolls on here so this will be my one and only reply to you. You are no doubt hitting refresh repeatedly waiting for this reply. First off you copied the answer to you question right from the start. I stated "I know these are exaggerated". As for the Trumpets, they can generate levels in excess of 110 dB anything more than 85 decibels can cause hearing loss. As for the laws taking away freedom. What example would you like by state or federal? in the state of California you can no longer buy fully automatic or .50 cal guns. You can no longer ride poketbikes or gopeds legally. Federal, marijuana is illegal, Helmet laws and so on. To make a law to protect "the people" you steal freedom. I know being in Europe also limits your knowledge of the US and it`s laws. So i hope you understand it now.
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Male 108
WHAAAAT!!! Cigarettes can kill you? Why haven`t anybody told me this!
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Male 32
We`ve had that style (the new fda) here in Canada for over a decade, now if we had the Brazilian style that was also shown, that would deter people.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Next you want to play a trumpet because it makes you happy but someone found it to be noisy and damaging to the ears. So they found the time to fight and make a law. Another freedom gone. I know these are exaggerated but if things keep up like this with people like Angilion then it might not be that far off.[/quote]

I require evidence. So your example is bullpoo.

It is already illegal to damage someone else`s hearing or even to unreasonably annoy them with noise. It has been for a very long time. So you example is bullpoo in that way too.

You are seriously equating poisoning people in a way that might kill them in a very nasty way with playing a trumpet in a potentially irritating (but not actually dangerous) way.

Do you really believe that?
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Female 448
So I have a bunch of responses to this:

1.) Everything will kill you. It`s just about choosing your poison.

2.) My maternal grandfather died at 80 from heart disease due to heavy smoking. My paternal grandfather died at 70 from a mosquito bite.

3.) I am not a smoker. I have really bad asthma. I have no problem with smokers, I just wish they would stop smoking in public places. You make it hurt to breathe.
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Male 8,300
What I`D like to see instead of graphic images is a list of the sources proving that these diseases are actually caused by smoking. Oh that`s right, there ARE none. Silly me.
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Male 1,231
This doesn`t really put people off smoking, if anything it De-sensitises people to graphic images. The cigarette boxes become as collectible as cigarette cards used to be `I`ll swap you a diseased lung for a dead baby` sort of thing.
The argument that smokers cost other people in society money through treatment (whether it pushes up other peoples insurance premiums or through NHS based systems) is spurious. Only 70,000 more people died a tobacco related death, than a death related to poor diet and physical inactivity. How about we start putting photos of a struggling heart on a big mac box?
Oh, I`ve never smoked in my life, I just feel like joining in in this debate.
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Female 113
uhhh we already have this in the UK? it doesn`t really put people off to be honest.
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Male 249
these have been around for ages int uk. i am now fully aware that smoking when pregnant may harm any baby i have in my 19 yo male body.
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Male 385
sbeelz I do think you are confused. I pay into a MONTHLY health insurance for my whole life. If i do get cancer at the "standard age" (please understand this is a statistic not a definite number)of 50+. OK so lets say I pay $250 USD a month when I smoked. We will start from just age of 30 (I have been paying into mine from 18!). So that`s 250 x 12months = 3000. 3000 x 10years = 30,000 dollars. 30,000 x 2decades = 60,000 dollars USD. The standard (again only a quote)$6,000-7000 for each cycle. 3-6 cycles is (we will go high for fun) 7,000 USD x 6 = 42,000 USD. So who is paying for who? Insurance companies are a business. They make money not loose money. Smoking means higher premiums to compensate. Ive read my 200 page manuals. Do not try to school me or troll me.
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Male 2,868
Oh yeah, and if I die after that three years, and I have no assets left and still owe a debt to the hospital for my portion of the bills for my treatment, it`s the hospital that has to eat the cost of that treatment, and as this happens often enough over time, they have to increase the cost of care for everybody so the hospital can keep its head above water.
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Male 2,868
Just to make this clear- let`s look at a scenario. I pay about $2,500 in premiums annually for my health insurance, which I purchase from a private company. My maximum annual benefit is $25,000. So say I`m a smoker, but I stay healthy enough that I don`t file a single claim for twenty years. After that time, I`ve paid $50,000 in premiums to my insurance company. But say in the 21st year of being covered by them, I get diagnosed lung cancer. The treatment costs more than my annual benefit of $25,000, so I`m personally stuck with a portion of my medical bills. But my insurance company is paying $25,000 that first year. Say I survive for just three years, but require repeated chemo and radiation therapy treatments- that`s already $75,000 my insurance company will be paying for- $25,000 more than I paid to them in premiums over the course of 20 years. Where do you think that money came from? The premiums paid by OTHER people who buy insurance from that same company.
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Male 2,868
mrpuddle-
You really DON`T understand how private insurance works. So let me break it down. You pay premiums, and so do a bunch of other people who buy insurance from the same company as you. If you get sick, you get your care paid for according to a pre-agreed upon schedule. If you get a serious illness like cancer, or a chronic illness that requires long-term treatment, more than likely the total coverage you receive for that illness will BY FAR outstrip the amount of money you have paid into the pot with your premiums. The money to pay for your care comes from the premiums of others. This system works really well when most paying into it takes good care of themselves. But when larger numbers of people make unhealthy choices, and as a result need to file more caims, the premiums go up for everyone.
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Male 385
sbeelz I never said anything about people taking responsibility for themselves I`m simply stating that you hate something that much YOU make the effort and stand on the other side. I always made an effort in to not blow in someones face but this is a world with more than just you in it, so it takes a little effort on everyone`s part to make this place livable. Don`t force someone else to stop what they like to do. Stop referring to smoking as an "illness" or "Bad" I enjoyed it very much and chose to do it. Shooting guns can give you cancer too but I shoot them because I like them. What makes you think that Healthy people pay for my health care? I pay my own bills. When I smoked they where higher..that means I payed for my own choices. What makes you think that other people pay for my health care through private health system? That`s how private works you pay for yourself. As for government health care I wouldn`t know.
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Male 2,868
@mandingo3519-
Unless you are extremely rich and totally uninsured, you are NOT the one who will be paying for your medical care if you get lung cancer. Do you even understand how health insurance works?
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Male 577
This is so stupid. I don`t smoke, but I don`t understand this and I don`t understand smoking bans in bars.
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Male 385
You live in a world with other people. If you can`t deal with other people doing things that you don`t like move to a place with less or no people directly around you. People who want to make laws because people do things that are harmful to themselves or others are actually making the this a less free and more government controlled place. Lets say for instance I don`t like you driving a motorcycle because it`s loud and smelly and somewhat dangerous. So I go out and fight to make a law banning all of them. You may not realize it but you just took someones freedom away and a bit of yours too not even knowing it. Next you want to play a trumpet because it makes you happy but someone found it to be noisy and damaging to the ears. So they found the time to fight and make a law. Another freedom gone. I know these are exaggerated but if things keep up like this with people like Angilion then it might not be that far off. I smoked for 10 years because I liked it. I quit on my own terms easily
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Male 2,841
I do not see the point. People who smoke already don`t give a poo about the consequences.
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Male 192
the government needs to leave us smokers the hell alone i say it to everyone so i guess it should be said US government stop trying to tell me something is bad for me unless you are going to cover my health as long as i have to pay for my health than damn it i should choose what i do to it
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Male 559
love it
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Male 2,893
Lol.
It still won`t stop people from smoking.
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Male 2,796
I predict it will become like a Garbage Pail Kid collection. COLLECT THEM ALL!

You`ll see smokers on the corner saying stuff like, "Hey man, I will trade you Throat Cancer Ulcer for Radiation Sickness!!"
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Male 312
This is stupid as drat, are they gonna put a "eating this will make you fat and cause a multitude of debilitating diseases" warning on every big mac? People know its bad for them, but its not gonna stop them.
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Female 437
Meh... Those pic`s are pretty tame, We`ve had these kinda pic`s on our ciggy packets for ages!!...
Nothing has changed and i doubt it ever will... People smoke, Kids think it `cool`.. Its never going to stop, you just learn to ignore them,

yeah people die from smoking but its the same as getting in a car or whatever... ya gotta die from something...

This kind of advertising doesnt work... Damn when it first came out over here i just blacked it out with texta... problem solved, now the pic`s just dont even bother me..
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Female 1,652
Awesome. This will make my boyfriend want to smoke even more. Thanks FDA.
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Male 904
Does that mean they`re going to put pictures of fat people on Twinkies and isht?
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Female 838
We have had that in Canada for years now. They were sorta like trading cards at first... now you`re so used to them you don`t even notice them anymore
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Male 76
So tell me how the government can put graphic images on packs but they have the nerve to bitch about graphic images in video games and movies.
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Male 275
in Australia we`ve had gross photos on our packs for a while now and it has got to the point where nobody cares any more. At first, though, we did exactly what Hylian4hire said. We used to pretend they were trading cards. "I got the rotting mouth." "Cool, I got the gangrene foot."
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Female 255
We`ve had graphic pictures on cigarette packets for years! Is this a new thing?
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Female 328
This is how it`s gonna work. They`re going to put graphic photos on the packs, and we smokers are going to collect and trade them like baseball cards. "Oh, another Blackened Lung, I`ve got like five of those... trade you for Fetal Disfigurement?"
And yes, smokers ARE treated like second-class citizens. All we`re missing is "Smoker" and "Non-Smoker" drinking fountains to get the ball rolling.
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Male 1,931
I`m pretty sure everyone knows smoking causes cancer. That`s not the problem. The problem is, that they have a component in it that makes you addicted to it.

You ask any serious smoker if they want to smoke, and 9/10 times they will say no but they have to.
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Male 2,868
@button guy- it is patently false to act as if smoking only affects those who choose to smoke. First, there`s the second hand smoke. But even if you only ever smoke either by yourself or around other smokers, your smoking- if you get sick from it- costs other people money. That is, unless you`re totally uninsured and wealthy enough to cover your own medical costs. But then, that`s also true of people who make other choices such as drinking, eating sh*t food, or sitting on their a$$es all day.

Whether you are insured by a private company, or you`re on a government health plan like Medicare, when you get sick, other people foot the bill. As long as you`re not the one who is paying your own medical bills, you have a responsibility to others to try and keep yourself healthy.

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Male 12,365
[quote]What is up with everyone hating on cigarettes? You don`t HAVE to smoke them.[/quote]

Yes, we do. Because of the stinking scumbags who smoke them near us.

If I sprayed a fine mist of urine on you and everything else I could, would you be "hating on" that? Would you be fine with it because you didn`t have to do it yourself?

Urine is harmless, doesn`t smell anywhere near as bad, doesn`t get as deeply engrained into things and doesn`t cause as much mess. So there`s far less reason to be bothered by people spraying urine around that by people smoking. Yet if I sprayed urine on you, I could be arrested for assault.

Can you give me a good reason why it`s that way round, when logically it should be the other way around?
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Male 1,116
@fivezones Holy poo! And i thought Washington was bad with our $8.50 packs.
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Male 12,365
[quote]I`m a non-smoker, but it seems as if we are treating smokers like second-class citizens anymore.[/quote]

We`re talking about people who harm others in order to feed their own drug habit.

Worse than that, they could take the drug in a variety of other ways that don`t harm others. But they choose not to. So they don`t even have the excuse of drug addiction.

It is reasonable to treat AN ACTION as being second-class when that action harms others. It isn`t at all like an irrational prejudice against a group of people chosen for some biological characteristic like sex or skin colour. This is about judging individuals on the basis of their actions, which is reasonable.

Say, for example, someone burgles your home to get stuff they can sell to buy their drugs. Are you going to judge them on that? See them as a second class citizen? Or are you going to worry about burglars being treated as second class citizens?
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Male 171
What is up with everyone hating on cigarettes? You don`t HAVE to smoke them. And if they`re doing this, why not put pics of peoples livers after years of drinking? Or place pictures of fat, disgusting people on Big Mac boxes? I like smoking. It`s an addictive habit, sure, but I`ve had some great conversations and met some really cool people simply because we had smoking in common. And the taxes! Good GOD. It seems like every year or so they raise taxes on tobacco. Good reason to quit my ass. That`s just their excuse. The government is trying to help us quit by charging us more money? That`s BS.
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Male 1,021
In New York a pack of cigs is $11.70 with all their taxes. That is a good reason to quit. Plus it stinks like farting. You wouldn`t fart in front of someone would you? Oh...nevermind.
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Male 633
These type of adds like others have noted have been used in Canada for years. If you don`t like the picture you can buy unbranded cases for your smokes.

The one thing that does seem to make a difference is that the government has been raising the price of cigarettes and are about $11 per pack.

I don`t know why they don`t just make them illegal?
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Female 243
plus i think that this will only open up the market for some sort of cigarette pack holder type thing that covers the picture...or you know...a brown paper bag and some tape.
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Female 243
another reason why it doesnt make sense that cigarettes are legal and weed isnt.
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Male 3,477
Yesterday made one year without a cigarette! Though I smoked for 38 years and thats what`ll kill me anyway, I can breath now!
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Male 101
Umm, stop crying America? Australia and Canada have had this for ages, didn`t change too much, some people quit when they realised and saw what happened when you smoke visually, others started collecting the pictures and bragging when they collected them all, hell, my mates and I even invented trading cards out of them and even had drinking games for them :P
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Male 527
I`m a non-smoker, but it seems as if we are treating smokers like second-class citizens anymore. That disturbs me, because once we do that to these people, what sort of laws will be passed to make any/all of my vices illegal, thereby pushing me to the same category? Yes, I realize the story is about putting disturbing pictures on cigarette cartons. Let`s do the same thing to bottles of alcohol. Let`s also put pictures of the morbidly obese on World of Warcraft and Evercrack, while we`re at it. Feeling like a Big Mac? How`s your appetite now looking at a picture of a quad bypass that`s on the container?

At what point does this end? When everyone lives the same way? Sort of like the wives in Stepford?
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Female 1,077
Here`s an idea: of course make it so I can`t smoke in a restaurant, because the people in there didn`t consent to inhale tobacco fumes. I`m totally for that. But this? Don`t tell me how to live my life. I`m educated. I KNOW smoking`s bad for me. So does everyone else. I`m sick of other people telling me how to live or die.(For the record, I don`t smoke I`m just using "I" for the sake of argument).
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Male 385
Angilion it`s called Natural selection. (sorry fed the troll)
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Male 12,365
Hey, you want pictures? Try video. Watch this and tell me that they`ve never used images in campaigns against drink driving. This is the cut-down version, by the way.

This is very nasty.
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Male 12,365
[quote]This is the dumbest shet in the world. Get over it. Smoking isn`t a big damned deal.[/quote]

Harming and maybe killing other people because you choose to feed your drug habit in the most harmful way possible is a big damned deal.

[quote]Put pics of a head on vehicle collision on your Smirrnof and we`ll talk. GODDAMN this pisses me off.[/quote]

If you always drive your car head on into another car when you drink Smirnoff, maybe you should drink something else.

But you don`t, do you? You`re just making stuff up because you don`t have a rational argument.

The clue train is here and it`s stopping for you!

Driving while drunk is illegal. That`s way beyond pictures. Which they`ve also used - have you seen some of the adverts against drink-driving? The UK ones are nothing short of brutal.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Smoking is the worst. The smoking ban is the best thing that ever happened to me and my drinking habits. Except now you can smell what the bar is REALLY like. Beer, old food, vomit and sluts.[/quote]

Beer and sluts are good things, though.

Covering a bad smell (vomit, old food, body odour, etc) with a stronger bad smell (tobacco smoke) isn`t the only option. They can be covered with a pleasant smell instead. It`s not like air fresheners are expensive.
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Male 511
I liked the "tobacco use can make you impotent" one
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Female 233
This is the dumbest shet in the world. Get over it. Smoking isn`t a big damned deal. Put pics of a head on vehicle collision on your Smirrnof and we`ll talk. GODDAMN this pisses me off.
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Male 12,365
[quote]In that case i think beer and liquor should also print the cases bottles and cans with pictures of gruesome car accidents and beaten wives, and mcdonalds should be required to have picture of gout and morbid obesity on their bags.[/quote]

You may beat your wife whenever you drink, but almost everyone is better than that. The problem is in your mind, not in the bottles and cans.

Similarly for McDonalds.

[quote]wtf ever happened to freedom.[/quote]

It was ruined by people who harm others and don`t care. Like smokers.

In any case, what freedom is being lost here? Spell it out. They`re not even banning cigarettes. You`d make much more sense speaking against the lack of freedom to sell crack, as that`s banned.

Pictures don`t do anything, anyway. It`s not like there are any smokers who don`t know the harm they`re doing to themselves and other people.
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Female 2,674
"I want a pic of a starving old person with no medical benefits on the Rupublican Ads"

*Chuckles*

Smoking is the worst. The smoking ban is the best thing that ever happened to me and my drinking habits. Except now you can smell what the bar is REALLY like. Beer, old food, vomit and sluts.
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Male 1,116
Convienance stores should start selling big stickers that cover up the warning labels with dancing cigarettes or something alongside the packs.
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Male 2,388
Im a nicotine slave but I take mine in the form of lozenges I wonder if they will take that pleasure rom us ?? here`s song for those addicted


watch?v=DHKBIKv0HjA
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Male 385
They can make the box black, with a skull and cross bones on it..named TUMORS and people will be lined up around the block waiting to get them. -Denis Leary
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Female 1,589
We`ve had those in Canada for awhile, and at my job I sell cigarettes, and this one time a lady came in and asked if I could choose one that "wasn`t gross" (we have ones with yellow and black teeth, black heart, and black lungs). So I gave her one with 2 kids on it that says "Second hand smoke kills" and she was fine with it.
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Female 25
So one simply invests in a cigarette case...
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Male 39,902
If they can do this with cigs... I wanna see some fat asses on every McDonalds milkshake cup.

I want a pic of a starving old person with no medical benefits on the Rupublican Ads
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Male 85
In that case i think beer and liquor should also print the cases bottles and cans with pictures of gruesome car accidents and beaten wives, and mcdonalds should be required to have picture of gout and morbid obesity on their bags. wtf ever happened to freedom.
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Female 293
when i went out of the country, i bought some with the pictures on it, then i turned it into a game and tried to collect all the different picture boxes.
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Female 133
Well said, CrakrJak
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Male 2,868
@kerryfairy82
By asking people not to correct your use of the word "ironic," you clearly recognize that you didn`t use it correctly (which you didn`t). That begs the question- why did you use it rather than an appropriate word?
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Male 1,116
Brazil`s warnings are horrifying. One of them has a f*cking dead baby on it.
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Male 2,033
America catches up to the rest of the world only a decade late. Amazing.
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Female 1,172
I dunno, they`ve been like that for ages here. It makes no difference.
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Male 17,511
If you think this is bad, The FDA wants the unfettered ability to raid co-op farms and organic farmers markets. S. 510, the FDA Food Safety Modernization Act; Even gives them power to shut down even your family garden, If they see fit.
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Male 17,511
I`m a non-smoker and believe these new warnings are just sick. They won`t make current smokers stop smoking. If this is allowed to continue, What will stop them from putting warning labels on soda cans, Chip bags, French fry boxes, etc.. Our government is really getting ridiculous with it`s tyrannical crap lately.
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Male 1,341
I wouldn`t mind smoking bans in most public areas.. When I finally do buy a pack of cigarettes which is only a pack every 3 months or so I usually smoke outside my front door.
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Female 839
*HUGE...ffs
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Female 839
We have had these in England for a couple of years now. Some of them are no bother, like the picture of sperm and wrinkly old hands. But then there are others like the man with a hige cancerous growth protruding from his neck, and the body on a mortuary slab. Way worse than those pictured in this article.

How ironic that this be posted on day 2 of me quitting smoking, i don`t know whether it`s helping or making me want one even more :/ (please, no corrections on my use of the word `ironic`)
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Male 2,868
And, no, I`m not a smoker. I just don`t like scapegoatism.
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Male 2,868
If they`re gonna do this, then McDonald`s should have to post pictures of diseased heart tissue and morbidly obese people in every restaurant (as should every can of soda, as it`s a major contributor of totally empty calories to the American diet), and every bottle and can of booze should have to have pictures of cirrhotic livers, homeless people, and children with bruised faces. I don`t like the fact that the tobacco industry is treated like it`s the ONLY industry that profits from making people ill.

And yeah, eating fast food isn`t the same as smoking because you have to eat- but fast food is about as nutritionally void as it gets. It`s not that protein, carbohydrates and fat are bad- but there`s an excess of all three in a fastfood meal, and virtually no other nutrients, besides a tiny amount of vitamins and fiber in the lettuce and tomatoes you find on some burgers.
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Male 270
I smoke, and this wouldn`t make me stop, but if a 16 year old is thinking about starting to smoke I think that would make him think twice. It might work to some people.
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Male 2,307
fastfood != smoking cigarettes

One is your need to eat. The other is your need for addiction. Even though both are probably about as addictive I`d say.
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Male 4,290
[quote]Yea, its bad for you. So is fast food.[/quote]
Yes, but someone else eating fast food next to me doesn`t cause health problems for me. Whereas smoking can.

Although I think these pictures are a bit much, I do agree with things like the smoking ban we have now in the UK.
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Male 490
Just please please please, FDA, do not begin a campaign against cigars or pipes.

I love my cigars, and I have them sparingly (MAYBE 2 a month). But knowing them, they`ll take the stats (which I`ve reviewed) and blow them out of proportion, and start a brigade against my lovely wonderful tasting cigars.
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Male 307
This has not worked any other country, if anything I know people who collect them like baseball cards.

No one looks at the packaging other than the logo the first time. You put it in your pocket, drawer or car compartment and grab it when you get one out to smoke - you never look at the box anyway!
I imagine hard cases will also become more popular too(crushed and wet fags is annoying).
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Male 1,587
This is messed up. I mean its peoples I am a pretty pretty little girling choice! They know the risks. I think its horrible the way our society hates on smoking so much. Yea, its bad for you. So is fast food.
BenTheBug I love your picture
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Female 105
Pictures like these have been on cigarette packs in Canada since I was a little kid. Some are pretty disgusting, when I smoke I never get the picture of the lungs or the teeth because it grosses me out.
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Male 325
Well I hope they put a dark wrapper around this because if a child sees this in a PUBLIC store and is scared for life then we can blame murders on the ultra violent cigarette packs the children have seen there whole life and are now desinstized to dead bodies.. I`m pretty sure this stuff is way worse than any fake dead or what not bodies on tv
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Female 46
Half the appeal of smoking is that it is bad for you so added these just make it more appealing.
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Male 756
this is really old, this has been around since the 90s
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Male 1,195
If I smoked, I`d collect these like baseball cards.
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Male 886
I effing hate the FDA.

They can`t do anything about all the ecoli outbreaks so they think they can do something about smoking...


Here is some changes in my smoking habits in lieu of these packaging changes:

1. Previously I would hide my cigarette from children while walking on the street. Now I will puff on it and act like I am eating five pounds of candy smoke.

2. In the past I would try to avoid carrying my cigarette on the same side as others while walking on the sidewalk. I will now walk straight down the middle of the sidewalk puffing and then holding the cigarette straight out in front of me like a baton.

3. I always kept my pack of smokes away from kids, now I will glue pokemon cards to them and leave them anywhere in view. Preferably on top of a toy chest along with a scooby doo lighter.

4. When I do get cancer, I will clear out the hole in my neck in public places leaving a tar infested puddle of slime where your chi
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Male 7,830
personally, i think this is going to far. if you dont know what cigarettes will do to you by now, you are an idiot. if they really dont want people smoking try to outlaw it, its already illegal to smoke nearly anywhere anyway.
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Male 605
They`ve had these in the UK for years, I think they do have an effect, for the first few months, anyway.
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Male 25,416
Heres some of the Australian packaging already in place since 2008.


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Male 25,416
Australia has it already and it doesnt change a thing, but what it does do is remove the nocotine content and chemical content listed on the packaging!
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Male 769
Well that`s one way to desensitise a whole demographic towards gore, I suppose.

What about the people who sell cigarettes? The ordinary person in the convenience store? This can`t be nice for them.
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Male 605
its funny their feeble attempts to traumatize the smoke with graphic depictions cancer but and how it kills you but what I GUESS they dont understand is that they DONT GIVE A F*CK!
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Female 1,181
It`s about time.
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Male 5
They do this in Canada already. It doesn`t work.
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Male 487
uhm yeah... They`ve had those labels here for almost 10 years.

Everyone starts off getting cases to put them in, but eventually you just get used to it. I don`t smoke anymore, but by the time i quit i didn`t care about the pictures.
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Male 1,625
Lame.
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Male 15,832
This is great, because there`s no way people could put their cigarettes in a case and throw the package away.
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Male 537
Uh... its just a stupid poll. So what?
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Male 506
Meh, its about time they start presenting stuff like this in general.

Society has gone to soft behind the four walls of our own twisted form of reality in mainstream media.
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Male 633
Most people quit because it saves money anyway.
And there will always people who demand their cancer fix.
Dont think it will help. Just looks cool and stuff like that I bet.
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Male 99
so what? we`ve had pictures on the packs for years here and they have done sweet f*ck all so if they wanna waste money putting ugly pictures on the packs let em
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Male 592
we got that in england already, doesn`t stop any one at all. to be honest i think they look cool (P.S. i don`t smoke... P.P.S. maybe when im drunk sometimes)
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Male 2,513
wow that is freaking retarded, the government needs to start minding it`s own damn business. This pisses me off and I don`t even smoke cigarettes
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Male 39,902
Link: FDA Demands New Cigarette Package Regulation [Rate Link] - Graphic pics to be required on packs of fags. So much for trying to look cool and sexy while smoking.
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