California`s Prop 19 Results (Not So Good)

Submitted by: zabdalla1988 6 years ago
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20021612-10391704.html

California craps the bed after being given a golden opportunity. You blew it, Cali.
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Male 5,413
What`s with California and being pathetic with laws?
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Male 132
Arrgh, it annoys me that everyone is only thinking about getting to smoke weed legally, and not the bigger picture.
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Male 213
@ubfwins: Proving stoners are not so easily exploited.
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Male 33
Although the measure was ultimately a no-go, it enjoyed high-profile support, including that of the state branches of the NAACP and the League of United Latin American Citizens.

OMFG LOOOOL
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Male 95
trust me, it`s not that the stoners here in cali didn`t want to get off our lazy asses to get this passed, because honestly stoners are the hardest working people here. it`s just that prop 19 was very badly written, and we really didn`t want it to pass until they refine it and make it something we can be proud of, not some half assed bull crap that looks like it was written by someone heavily against pot smoking.
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Male 670
omfg stfu already...
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Male 177
It`s not just that the pot smokers didn`t vote - NO young people voted. 13% of registered voters under 30 voted in my state. Pathetic. People, if we want to take the power away from the old people and jesus freaks, we HAVE to get out there and VOTE.
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Male 587
drating pot heads couldn`t get off the couch for five min to get this thing passed? There has to be way more pot smokers then not in cali. Ridiculous.
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Male 7,378
Once again old people turn out to deny progress.
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Female 2
Its better that it didn`t pass. The proposition was rushed and didnt really set any ground rules. Not only would it have let any city raise the tax to whatever they wanted, it would have driven a lot of the cannabis businesses (i.e, like my brother`s). So yah, in the future it will be written better and I`m hoping will pass :)
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Male 3,076
I bet all the pot smokers forgot to vote :(
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Male 147
@Arandanos While that is true, less than 1% of Marijuana related arrests are made by the FBI in California, and they would have a hard time enforcing the federal law without the cooperation of the state.
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Male 1,299
In reality Prop 19 was a poor solution to the legalization of Marijuana- it enable monopolies to be created which would ultimately crush and eliminate the small, plentiful, innovative and creative dispensaries. Realistically it would not allow the business culture that marijuana legalization could nurture to reach maximum potential- which is the only REAL reason anyone would politically pursue it.

For the reason I mentioned and some others many people that support the legalization of marijuana opposed Prop 19. It would be akin to legalizing burgers but giving McDonalds and Burger King a huge edge- the Diner scene would collapse. (Keep in mind that this DID happen thanks to industrial farming, as opposed to policy.)

I don`t think we`ve seen the last of legalization of marijuana if anything supporters can feel assured that it was a narrow defeat. Once more balanced legislation is proposed I think it is a shoe-in.
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Male 1,540
Can`t rely on us Californians for anything, can you? We`re more wishy washy than... Well, poo, we just are.
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Male 5,190
Just not time yet. Wait patiently.
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Female 223
Um... didn`t anyone hear Obama? He said even if the prop would have passed, it would have been overridden by federal law, no matter what, pot will be illegal for a while still.
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Female 3,562
How the hell did that happen? Seriously, California, why must you fail so hard? I would friggin MOVE there if they had legalized it.
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Male 2,402
Hmm...My only supposition would be that all the 420 friendlies were to busy getting 420 friendly at home instead out at the polls.
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Female 525
I actually just wrote a 20 page paper on the prison system so I am fully aware of how much money we are spending placing non-violent drug users in jail. It`s RIDICULOUS. Especially with all these mandatory minimum punishments for drug posession.
I think the problem here is the older population thinking that weed is murderous to your body.
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Male 108
Well, this wont stop anybody from smoking. what it will do however is put more money into the hands of drug cartels, gangs who move the weight, and dead beats who make their income slinging it. but yeah, guess we can say we made the best moves for the war on drugs. dumb da dumb dumb
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Male 3,915
i hear the vote was 46% yes 54% no....from the comments anyway....how is that overwhelmingly rejected??
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Female 668
Time to step it up Canada! let`s do this, eh? POT FOR ERRVRYBUDDY!
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Male 686
I have smoked weed, a lot of weed and as a recreational drug it is awsome, hanging out with friends or listening to music while smoking a joint is just brilliant but anyone trying to claim it is more effective as a painkiller than standard medicines is deluding themselves and has an alternative agenda. This message was brought to you from me and all my weed smoking buddies thankyou and goodnight
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Male 188
I think a ton of stoners and baked people got out to vote.. I mean Boxer won again. Prop 23 failed. Thats pretty convincing.
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Male 363
"Okay, so I read the article. Where`s the bad news?"

^ This.

Once again, IAB taking sides
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Male 188
I think this or something similar was on the ballot in several states. I know South Dakota had something that lost as well.

Most of the folks I know that voted no in CA only were concerned that there was no science available to do a DUI stop or a workplace screen realtime. I think once that is available like a breath or fluid test, it will pass.
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Male 11,740
Wow yeah ...... stupid move there Cali. So much for liberal thinking.
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Male 9,306
So my partner has to wait until freaking 2012 until this MAY be legalized so he can go out, get an oz, and stop his back pain that keeps him screaming into the wee hours of the morning?

Yeah, thanks a lot.
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Male 155
The only reason this didnt pass is because the dealers and their buyers who support them all voted no
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Male 85
well considering the youth vote only turned out about 11% yesterday it`s not surprising.
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Male 2,056
once made legal, hustlers loose money. THEY DON`T LIKE THAT
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Male 15,510
Its not going to stop people to get high right
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Male 2,841
Some day...
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Male 2,796
Yeah... way to go. Now the tax payers (all of us) can continue to enjoy paying taxes on all the "criminals" in jail and prison for illegal weed use/posession.


Good job!
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Male 25,416
kinda expected it!
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Male 92
I`m sure the big dealers voted no. I mean, yeah, they could be more public, but still, if it`s legal, there are regulations. Also, the demand for weed would go way up, therefore the market would grow (probably hugely and quickly) and there would be, as with anything else that goes through this trend, more producers. More producers means more weed out there and more places to get it, and that means prices drop. If dealers want to protect their finances, they`d vote no.
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Male 4,807
sbeelz... Oh, did know that. Well at least it`s a step in the right direction.
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Male 10,845
Here are the numbers:
54% opposed 46% in favor

Getting there.
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Male 658
My policy when it comes to weed is the same as my policy for masturbating. I`m okay with you doing it, as long as it`s in the privacy of your own home, and you don`t drating talk about it.
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Male 10,845
not bad.

I had hopes for this one, but I guess they`ll have to wait a little longer.
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Male 2,868
@a1 butcher. It`s already been decriminalized in CA and many other states.
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Male 2,868
"more cops are killed over marijuana each year than anything else"

This sounds unlikely. Please cite a credible source.
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Male 4,807
Why not just decriminalize it like Canada did. It`s not legal but you`re not going to jail or getting a record for a small amount.
It`s a no brainer.
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Male 37
and just for the record, I don`t smoke weed, and i love in new york so this wouldn`t even apply to me, but our economy is waaayyy too f u c k e d to be spending thousands of dollars a year to keep someone in jail for selling pot. We could also use a decrease in the prison population, prisons are way overcrowded and we don`t have the money to build new ones...it seems to me that for every con, there are about 3 pros...
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Male 37
@chrn368...if it was legal, why would they need people to smuggle it? It would be commercialized, and grown here in the States. When Prohibition ended, did people still turn to bootleggers for alcohol? And you can`t even try to tell me that they won`t save money on law enforcement costs, more cops are killed over marijuana each year than anything else, law enforcement officers would be able to focus their efforts on something more important, like crack...Portugal has decriminalized all drugs, and it`s been wildly successful, they`ve seen decreases in the use of all drugs in people of all ages, except those ages 12-15, where there was an increase in experimentation with marijuana..And marijuana was classified as a narcotic when they made it illegal, people also believed it was addictive...it used to be classified as a schedule I narcotic.
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Male 132
And I`m sorry, but compared to users of other drugs, it seems to me that many cannabis users have an elitist mentality when it comes to them and their drug of choice.
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Male 132
@chrn368 those are very good points, I voted yes because of the tax revenue, but didn`t take into consideration the other aspects of it. I think a problem with most of the people who voted yes was them only thinking about "ZOMG!1! I CAN SMOKE LEGALLY NOW!!1 THIS IS THE GREATEST DAY EVER!!" without even thinking about everything else it would affect.
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Male 1,399
If California can`t pass this, who possibly could?

I know if *I* lived in California I would need pot, crack, smack and meth to escape the nightmare of it`s economy.
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Male 174
We didn`t blow it at all, did you even read that bill? Legalizing this wont stop the cartels, they make most of their money of the human trafficking trade now, legalizing this will only increase human trafficking because they`ll need people to smuggle it. It`s easier, and it`s much more profitable, plus they can easily set up racketeering rings, coupled with the huge administrative costs it`ll take to protect legitimate businesses selling it, there goes a huge chunk of tax revnue. Combined with the fact the cartels and people wont pay taxes on it, and buyers will keep buying from them to avoid taxes because they can easily low ball dispensarys. Combined with a plethora of other problems legalizing this stuff will cause including CA being cut off from 50 billion in federal grants which will sign our death sentence. Do some research before you vote yes on something next time. They tried taxing and regulating this stuff before. It didn`t work, that`s why they made it illegal.
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Male 3,413
Okay, so I read the article. Where`s the bad news?
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Male 132
@Topperhey That`s because the votes aren`t done being counted
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Male 537
I was supporting prop 19... but why do people keep comparing it to alcohol? All it does is make marijuana look bad by association. DON`T COMPARE IT TO ANYTHING.
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Male 1,929
What kind of reporter writes an article about a vote without mentioning the result of the vote???
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Male 5,194
Oh come ON! Legalize it and quit sending money to those murdering Mexican drug lords.
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Male 976
I wish prop 19 would have bumped marijuana down to a misdemeanor. It would clear up the jails of people who aren`t criminals and still add a some revenue to the states off of the many, many fines people would get.
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Male 1,341
I`ve never even smoked pot and I was hoping this would pass. We need somewhere to change that law so the rest of country can see that it won`t be the end of the world....

Alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana and causes more violence, accidents, illness and death every year....
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Male 132
Well, things are still just the same as they were. I`m sure the feds wouldn`t let prop 19 fly anyway, since the federal government has become way too drating powerful. Also, I`m pretty sure most of the nos came from older people, and people who bought into the whole "prop 19 is deeply flawed". Truth be told, we need to just legalize and regulate all drugs (I`m sure a bunch of smokers are gonna disagree with me on that one)
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Female 1,682
I am sad now :c I heard that it was kinda close though. Not like it was defeated by a landslide vote or anything ._.
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Female 119
Im so sad but hey I can still get my medical card..
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Male 6,694
How many people forgot to vote. " Oh. Dude. That was yesterday? Whoa."
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Male 2,700
"I am so angry right now at all those lazy stoners who didn`t bother to vote"

Actually alot of them have felonies on their record from possesion of said drug.

"Hey whats the big deal? So it didnt pass. You can still get high while I get richer"

Sincerly
-Drug lord with lots of guns
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Male 132
I`m sure most of the people who didnt vote had the mindset of "Everyone smokes these days! I know its going to pass so why should I vote??"
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Male 3,842
I am so angry right now at all those lazy stoners who didn`t bother to vote.
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Male 840
I was really hoping this one would pass - speaking as a former POW of the war on drugs.
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Male 177
It does suck. At least we can still buy it legally and if we can`t and get caught, it`s only a $100 fine now. Hopefully all the stoners that "didn`t get around to it" will get off their butts next time.
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Male 1,107

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Male 132
im just hoping that that asshat cooley doesn`t win
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Male 36,410
Aaaw, I was hoping SOME intelligent results might come out of California... someday...
Some ACTUAL RESULTS in the article would have been nice! Let`s see the numbers gosh-darn it!
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Male 308
I live in CA. I voted yes. I`m really disappointed... we really don`t have the money to be punishing "pot heads" when we have murderers, rapists, and real criminals out there.
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Male 7,378
This is the worst news to come out of this election.
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Male 67
lazy hippies,take a bath.
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Male 14,330
YAY!!! Let continue to waste money fighting against pot and giving organized crime a source of income it`s been working so well!!
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Male 132
I mean, the votes aren`t done being counted, but its for sure a loss. I`m 18, and I went and voted yes, which most of the people in the 18-25 range didn`t do (which, if they had, would have made a huge difference)
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Male 3,314
"awww sheeeet, c`mon America. For once you were gonna make the right decision :("

Sorry, but I had no control over it. I live in New York.
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Male 17,512
I told you guys that getting stoners off the couch before 6pm to go vote, With no polling places near a Taco Bell, Would make it end in defeat.
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Male 3,431
That`s because you`re expecting potheads, a notoriously lazy and unmotivated group, to get off their asses and do *something*.
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Male 4,867
awww sheeeet, c`mon America. For once you were gonna make the right decision :(
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Male 14,330
FRIGAFRAGAFRUCKAAA!!! I guess it made too much sense.
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Male 37,888
"overwhelmingly" ... ? That`s a bit of an exageration....but it still failed just the same.


told`ya stoners were too lazy to vote
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Male 37
Link: California`s Prop 19 Results (Not So Good) [Rate Link] - California craps the bed after being given a golden opportunity. You blew it, Cali.
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