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80 Responses to California`s Prop 19 Results (Not So Good)

  1. Profile photo of zabdalla1988
    zabdalla1988 Male 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 8:52 am
    Link: California`s Prop 19 Results (Not So Good) - California craps the bed after being given a golden opportunity. You blew it, Cali.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 3, 2010 at 10:08 am
    "overwhelmingly" ... ? That`s a bit of an exageration....but it still failed just the same.


    told`ya stoners were too lazy to vote
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 3, 2010 at 10:14 am
    FRIGAFRAGAFRUCKAAA!!! I guess it made too much sense.
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    domisgood Male 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 10:16 am
    awww sheeeet, c`mon America. For once you were gonna make the right decision :(
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    November 3, 2010 at 10:18 am
    That`s because you`re expecting potheads, a notoriously lazy and unmotivated group, to get off their asses and do *something*.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 3, 2010 at 10:23 am
    I told you guys that getting stoners off the couch before 6pm to go vote, With no polling places near a Taco Bell, Would make it end in defeat.
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
    3282 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 10:24 am
    "awww sheeeet, c`mon America. For once you were gonna make the right decision :("

    Sorry, but I had no control over it. I live in New York.
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    memoryburner Male 13-17
    132 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 10:25 am
    I mean, the votes aren`t done being counted, but its for sure a loss. I`m 18, and I went and voted yes, which most of the people in the 18-25 range didn`t do (which, if they had, would have made a huge difference)
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 3, 2010 at 10:28 am
    YAY!!! Let continue to waste money fighting against pot and giving organized crime a source of income it`s been working so well!!
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    HokieHiTech Male 18-29
    67 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 10:29 am
    lazy hippies,take a bath.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    November 3, 2010 at 10:46 am
    This is the worst news to come out of this election.
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    Phosphoreign Male 30-39
    308 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 10:48 am
    I live in CA. I voted yes. I`m really disappointed... we really don`t have the money to be punishing "pot heads" when we have murderers, rapists, and real criminals out there.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32796 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 10:50 am
    Aaaw, I was hoping SOME intelligent results might come out of California... someday...
    Some ACTUAL RESULTS in the article would have been nice! Let`s see the numbers gosh-darn it!
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    memoryburner Male 13-17
    132 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 10:54 am
    im just hoping that that asshat cooley doesn`t win
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    rammo34 Male 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 11:03 am

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    Wraithix Male 30-39
    178 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 11:06 am
    It does suck. At least we can still buy it legally and if we can`t and get caught, it`s only a $100 fine now. Hopefully all the stoners that "didn`t get around to it" will get off their butts next time.
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    Cartunze Male 60-69
    841 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 11:08 am
    I was really hoping this one would pass - speaking as a former POW of the war on drugs.
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    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    November 3, 2010 at 11:21 am
    I am so angry right now at all those lazy stoners who didn`t bother to vote.
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    memoryburner Male 13-17
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    November 3, 2010 at 11:25 am
    I`m sure most of the people who didnt vote had the mindset of "Everyone smokes these days! I know its going to pass so why should I vote??"
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 11:28 am
    "I am so angry right now at all those lazy stoners who didn`t bother to vote"

    Actually alot of them have felonies on their record from possesion of said drug.

    "Hey whats the big deal? So it didnt pass. You can still get high while I get richer"

    Sincerly
    -Drug lord with lots of guns
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
    6694 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 11:30 am
    How many people forgot to vote. " Oh. Dude. That was yesterday? Whoa."
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    planty Female 30-39
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    November 3, 2010 at 11:50 am
    Im so sad but hey I can still get my medical card..
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    _kiersten_ Female 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 11:59 am
    I am sad now :c I heard that it was kinda close though. Not like it was defeated by a landslide vote or anything ._.
  24. Profile photo of memoryburner
    memoryburner Male 13-17
    132 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 12:10 pm
    Well, things are still just the same as they were. I`m sure the feds wouldn`t let prop 19 fly anyway, since the federal government has become way too drating powerful. Also, I`m pretty sure most of the nos came from older people, and people who bought into the whole "prop 19 is deeply flawed". Truth be told, we need to just legalize and regulate all drugs (I`m sure a bunch of smokers are gonna disagree with me on that one)
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 12:18 pm
    I`ve never even smoked pot and I was hoping this would pass. We need somewhere to change that law so the rest of country can see that it won`t be the end of the world....

    Alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana and causes more violence, accidents, illness and death every year....
  26. Profile photo of Winter_ICE_0
    Winter_ICE_0 Male 13-17
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    November 3, 2010 at 12:29 pm
    I wish prop 19 would have bumped marijuana down to a misdemeanor. It would clear up the jails of people who aren`t criminals and still add a some revenue to the states off of the many, many fines people would get.
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
    5195 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 12:30 pm
    Oh come ON! Legalize it and quit sending money to those murdering Mexican drug lords.
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    TopperHey Male 18-29
    1930 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 12:36 pm
    What kind of reporter writes an article about a vote without mentioning the result of the vote???
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    mcfudge Male 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 12:39 pm
    I was supporting prop 19... but why do people keep comparing it to alcohol? All it does is make marijuana look bad by association. DON`T COMPARE IT TO ANYTHING.
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    memoryburner Male 13-17
    132 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 12:40 pm
    @Topperhey That`s because the votes aren`t done being counted
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 12:52 pm
    Okay, so I read the article. Where`s the bad news?
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    chrn368 Male 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 1:01 pm
    We didn`t blow it at all, did you even read that bill? Legalizing this wont stop the cartels, they make most of their money of the human trafficking trade now, legalizing this will only increase human trafficking because they`ll need people to smuggle it. It`s easier, and it`s much more profitable, plus they can easily set up racketeering rings, coupled with the huge administrative costs it`ll take to protect legitimate businesses selling it, there goes a huge chunk of tax revnue. Combined with the fact the cartels and people wont pay taxes on it, and buyers will keep buying from them to avoid taxes because they can easily low ball dispensarys. Combined with a plethora of other problems legalizing this stuff will cause including CA being cut off from 50 billion in federal grants which will sign our death sentence. Do some research before you vote yes on something next time. They tried taxing and regulating this stuff before. It didn`t work, that`s why they made it illegal.
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    Baelzar Male 40-49
    1399 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 1:09 pm
    If California can`t pass this, who possibly could?

    I know if *I* lived in California I would need pot, crack, smack and meth to escape the nightmare of it`s economy.
  34. Profile photo of memoryburner
    memoryburner Male 13-17
    132 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 1:20 pm
    @chrn368 those are very good points, I voted yes because of the tax revenue, but didn`t take into consideration the other aspects of it. I think a problem with most of the people who voted yes was them only thinking about "ZOMG!1! I CAN SMOKE LEGALLY NOW!!1 THIS IS THE GREATEST DAY EVER!!" without even thinking about everything else it would affect.
  35. Profile photo of memoryburner
    memoryburner Male 13-17
    132 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 1:22 pm
    And I`m sorry, but compared to users of other drugs, it seems to me that many cannabis users have an elitist mentality when it comes to them and their drug of choice.
  36. Profile photo of zabdalla1988
    zabdalla1988 Male 18-29
    37 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 1:30 pm
    @chrn368...if it was legal, why would they need people to smuggle it? It would be commercialized, and grown here in the States. When Prohibition ended, did people still turn to bootleggers for alcohol? And you can`t even try to tell me that they won`t save money on law enforcement costs, more cops are killed over marijuana each year than anything else, law enforcement officers would be able to focus their efforts on something more important, like crack...Portugal has decriminalized all drugs, and it`s been wildly successful, they`ve seen decreases in the use of all drugs in people of all ages, except those ages 12-15, where there was an increase in experimentation with marijuana..And marijuana was classified as a narcotic when they made it illegal, people also believed it was addictive...it used to be classified as a schedule I narcotic.
  37. Profile photo of zabdalla1988
    zabdalla1988 Male 18-29
    37 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 1:36 pm
    and just for the record, I don`t smoke weed, and i love in new york so this wouldn`t even apply to me, but our economy is waaayyy too f u c k e d to be spending thousands of dollars a year to keep someone in jail for selling pot. We could also use a decrease in the prison population, prisons are way overcrowded and we don`t have the money to build new ones...it seems to me that for every con, there are about 3 pros...
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
    4809 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 1:42 pm
    Why not just decriminalize it like Canada did. It`s not legal but you`re not going to jail or getting a record for a small amount.
    It`s a no brainer.
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
    2868 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 1:47 pm
    "more cops are killed over marijuana each year than anything else"

    This sounds unlikely. Please cite a credible source.
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    November 3, 2010 at 1:48 pm
    @a1 butcher. It`s already been decriminalized in CA and many other states.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 2:01 pm
    not bad.

    I had hopes for this one, but I guess they`ll have to wait a little longer.
  42. Profile photo of Quik2TheStab
    Quik2TheStab Male 18-29
    661 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 2:06 pm
    My policy when it comes to weed is the same as my policy for masturbating. I`m okay with you doing it, as long as it`s in the privacy of your own home, and you don`t drating talk about it.
  43. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10731 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 2:09 pm
    Here are the numbers:
    54% opposed 46% in favor

    Getting there.
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    November 3, 2010 at 2:12 pm
    sbeelz... Oh, did know that. Well at least it`s a step in the right direction.
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    davidstone Male 18-29
    92 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 2:24 pm
    I`m sure the big dealers voted no. I mean, yeah, they could be more public, but still, if it`s legal, there are regulations. Also, the demand for weed would go way up, therefore the market would grow (probably hugely and quickly) and there would be, as with anything else that goes through this trend, more producers. More producers means more weed out there and more places to get it, and that means prices drop. If dealers want to protect their finances, they`d vote no.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    November 3, 2010 at 2:27 pm
    kinda expected it!
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 3, 2010 at 2:34 pm
    Yeah... way to go. Now the tax payers (all of us) can continue to enjoy paying taxes on all the "criminals" in jail and prison for illegal weed use/posession.


    Good job!
  48. Profile photo of Solvent
    Solvent Male 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 2:35 pm
    Some day...
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 2:40 pm
    Its not going to stop people to get high right
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    SomeShoes Male 13-17
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    November 3, 2010 at 2:45 pm
    once made legal, hustlers loose money. THEY DON`T LIKE THAT
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    greguire Male 18-29
    85 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 2:54 pm
    well considering the youth vote only turned out about 11% yesterday it`s not surprising.
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    ishkabibbles Male 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 2:54 pm
    The only reason this didnt pass is because the dealers and their buyers who support them all voted no
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 3:03 pm
    So my partner has to wait until freaking 2012 until this MAY be legalized so he can go out, get an oz, and stop his back pain that keeps him screaming into the wee hours of the morning?

    Yeah, thanks a lot.
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    November 3, 2010 at 3:42 pm
    Wow yeah ...... stupid move there Cali. So much for liberal thinking.
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    Shadowkin Male 40-49
    188 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 3:49 pm
    I think this or something similar was on the ballot in several states. I know South Dakota had something that lost as well.

    Most of the folks I know that voted no in CA only were concerned that there was no science available to do a DUI stop or a workplace screen realtime. I think once that is available like a breath or fluid test, it will pass.
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    HunterKiller Male 18-29
    363 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 3:50 pm
    "Okay, so I read the article. Where`s the bad news?"

    ^ This.

    Once again, IAB taking sides
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    Shadowkin Male 40-49
    188 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 3:50 pm
    I think a ton of stoners and baked people got out to vote.. I mean Boxer won again. Prop 23 failed. Thats pretty convincing.
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    puppies04 Male 18-29
    686 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 3:52 pm
    I have smoked weed, a lot of weed and as a recreational drug it is awsome, hanging out with friends or listening to music while smoking a joint is just brilliant but anyone trying to claim it is more effective as a painkiller than standard medicines is deluding themselves and has an alternative agenda. This message was brought to you from me and all my weed smoking buddies thankyou and goodnight
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    B-b-beccah Female 18-29
    668 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 3:59 pm
    Time to step it up Canada! let`s do this, eh? POT FOR ERRVRYBUDDY!
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    idiotfilter Male 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 4:10 pm
    i hear the vote was 46% yes 54% no....from the comments anyway....how is that overwhelmingly rejected??
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    Boredhero78 Male 18-29
    108 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 4:58 pm
    Well, this wont stop anybody from smoking. what it will do however is put more money into the hands of drug cartels, gangs who move the weight, and dead beats who make their income slinging it. but yeah, guess we can say we made the best moves for the war on drugs. dumb da dumb dumb
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    feiku Female 18-29
    525 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 5:25 pm
    I actually just wrote a 20 page paper on the prison system so I am fully aware of how much money we are spending placing non-violent drug users in jail. It`s RIDICULOUS. Especially with all these mandatory minimum punishments for drug posession.
    I think the problem here is the older population thinking that weed is murderous to your body.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    November 3, 2010 at 6:26 pm
    Hmm...My only supposition would be that all the 420 friendlies were to busy getting 420 friendly at home instead out at the polls.
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 7:03 pm
    How the hell did that happen? Seriously, California, why must you fail so hard? I would friggin MOVE there if they had legalized it.
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    Arandanos Female 18-29
    223 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 7:56 pm
    Um... didn`t anyone hear Obama? He said even if the prop would have passed, it would have been overridden by federal law, no matter what, pot will be illegal for a while still.
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    Thetas Male 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 10:16 pm
    Can`t rely on us Californians for anything, can you? We`re more wishy washy than... Well, poo, we just are.
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    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
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    November 3, 2010 at 10:17 pm
    In reality Prop 19 was a poor solution to the legalization of Marijuana- it enable monopolies to be created which would ultimately crush and eliminate the small, plentiful, innovative and creative dispensaries. Realistically it would not allow the business culture that marijuana legalization could nurture to reach maximum potential- which is the only REAL reason anyone would politically pursue it.

    For the reason I mentioned and some others many people that support the legalization of marijuana opposed Prop 19. It would be akin to legalizing burgers but giving McDonalds and Burger King a huge edge- the Diner scene would collapse. (Keep in mind that this DID happen thanks to industrial farming, as opposed to policy.)

    I don`t think we`ve seen the last of legalization of marijuana if anything supporters can feel assured that it was a narrow defeat. Once more balanced legislation is proposed I think it is a shoe-in.
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    Animecha Male 18-29
    147 posts
    November 3, 2010 at 11:32 pm
    @Arandanos While that is true, less than 1% of Marijuana related arrests are made by the FBI in California, and they would have a hard time enforcing the federal law without the cooperation of the state.
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    SvampeBob Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2010 at 12:50 am
    I bet all the pot smokers forgot to vote :(
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    hatsumixxaya Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2010 at 2:40 am
    Its better that it didn`t pass. The proposition was rushed and didnt really set any ground rules. Not only would it have let any city raise the tax to whatever they wanted, it would have driven a lot of the cannabis businesses (i.e, like my brother`s). So yah, in the future it will be written better and I`m hoping will pass :)
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    madest Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2010 at 5:51 am
    Once again old people turn out to deny progress.
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    Luniz82 Male 18-29
    588 posts
    November 4, 2010 at 6:48 am
    drating pot heads couldn`t get off the couch for five min to get this thing passed? There has to be way more pot smokers then not in cali. Ridiculous.
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    MyJobSucks Male 18-29
    177 posts
    November 4, 2010 at 10:35 am
    It`s not just that the pot smokers didn`t vote - NO young people voted. 13% of registered voters under 30 voted in my state. Pathetic. People, if we want to take the power away from the old people and jesus freaks, we HAVE to get out there and VOTE.
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    420foy Male 18-29
    671 posts
    November 4, 2010 at 11:24 am
    omfg stfu already...
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    ubfwins Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2010 at 2:28 pm
    trust me, it`s not that the stoners here in cali didn`t want to get off our lazy asses to get this passed, because honestly stoners are the hardest working people here. it`s just that prop 19 was very badly written, and we really didn`t want it to pass until they refine it and make it something we can be proud of, not some half assed bull crap that looks like it was written by someone heavily against pot smoking.
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    irbord Male 18-29
    33 posts
    November 4, 2010 at 4:25 pm
    Although the measure was ultimately a no-go, it enjoyed high-profile support, including that of the state branches of the NAACP and the League of United Latin American Citizens.

    OMFG LOOOOL
  77. Profile photo of hazeofwar
    hazeofwar Male 18-29
    213 posts
    November 4, 2010 at 4:37 pm
    @ubfwins: Proving stoners are not so easily exploited.
  78. Profile photo of memoryburner
    memoryburner Male 13-17
    132 posts
    November 5, 2010 at 3:14 pm
    Arrgh, it annoys me that everyone is only thinking about getting to smoke weed legally, and not the bigger picture.
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    December 16, 2010 at 6:46 am
    What`s with California and being pathetic with laws?

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