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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2010 at 10:38 am
    Link: The Gays Have A Great Counter Offer - If the straights aren`t going to let the gays get married, this seems like a fair trade-off.
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 10:53 am
    Lame.
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    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 10:54 am
    repost, of something like only a few weeks old. comeon IAB!
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    TokioKoos Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 10:54 am
    Like.
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    Inter237 Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 10:54 am
    Repost maybe? But a good point nonetheless!
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    October 28, 2010 at 10:55 am
    Crap.... let them get married already. It`s like a little kid that wants someone else`s toys. When he gets them he will find out they just aren`t that much fun anyway.

    .... and move on.
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    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 10:56 am
    but yeah, this is a fair point, tbh I think divorce should be a lot harder than it is, and gays should be able to get married.
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    Nocciolina Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 11:09 am
    Good point, luckily I don`t have to worry about that because where I live in gay people already can get married. Yay!
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    lostfate Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 11:10 am
    I totally agree with this. Gay people should not be allowed to marry, and people shouldn`t get divorced. its all about the sanctity of marriage.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 11:12 am
    "Crap.... let them get married already. It`s like a little kid that wants someone else`s toys."

    One day you`ll die. Would you like your partner to be told they can`t sit with you in the hospital ward? Would you like them to then be told they can`t continue to collect your pension? Would you like them to then be forced to sell your home because inheritance/estate tax (depends on your country) kicks in?

    These are not the only reasons gay people in your country want to be allowed the right to marry their loved ones, but they are some of the most heartbreaking.

    We want it because we love our partners, and, among all sorts of other reasons (why does ANYONE want to get married?) don`t want to see this happen to them.

    We don`t want it because we`re jealous of you, moron.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    October 28, 2010 at 11:22 am
    None of my business who someone else wants to marry and none of their business who I marry.

    I would let that guy from `Sister Wives` legally marry all 4 of his existing wives. Why? `Cause it`s none of my business.
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2010 at 11:27 am
    Ouch.
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    maniacalg Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2010 at 11:27 am
    Dumbest thing I`ve seen today. Congratulations fruitloops!
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    GiveChase Female 18-29
    535 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 11:29 am
    Oh, but no divorce is too difficult a rule to follow. It actually affects them.
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    October 28, 2010 at 11:31 am
    Kiss my butt...Musuko42 I never said you were jealous moron. Just get married already, I have heard and read all of your reasons and logic and all of that can be settled without being called "married". You simply want what everyone else has.

    I was voting for you moron.

    No go play with your new toys. OH and share that great attitude with your new spouse, and you`ll be headed to "Divorce" (don`t you feel included) in the future.
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    ishkabibbles Male 18-29
    155 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 11:32 am
    this is old
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    SlothOfDoom Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2010 at 11:33 am
    My boss and my landlord are both gay married dudes (not to each other) and god hasn`t slain either of them yet. Either he has a backlog or maybe...just maybe...the Christians are being silly again.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    October 28, 2010 at 11:38 am
    tridirk... whould you like a valium?
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    October 28, 2010 at 11:41 am
    lol... no I just get tired of the victims that don`t read what is typed because they are blinded by their own intolerance.

    I would like this settled so that gays can be what they are, People.

    Then we can move on to the next civil rights cause. I wonder what it will be? Interesting. So many groups are treated unfairly.... so many.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2010 at 11:49 am
    This is so old, its a repost!
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    startech Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2010 at 11:51 am
    Where do you draw the line? If people say that they are born to be murderers or pedophiles, does society have to give them the same rights too and be tolerant of their actions? Of course not, because (most) people know that it is wrong. Homosexuality is wrong too. This whole gay rights thing is getting way out of hand.
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    October 28, 2010 at 12:00 pm
    Flamewar in three, two o- oh it`s already started.
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    AlfishKK Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 12:01 pm
    startech, how does being gay harm anyone?

    It should be no one else`s business what consenting adults do in a private setting, whether they do it with members of the opposite sex or not.
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    deathbringer Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 12:02 pm
    "Where do you draw the line? If people say that they are born to be murderers or pedophiles, does society have to give them the same rights too and be tolerant of their actions? Of course not, because (most) people know that it is wrong. Homosexuality is wrong too. This whole gay rights thing is getting way out of hand."
    There`s nothing wrong with being a pedophile. Noone is born a murderer, though.
    Child-rape is not good. Loving children does no harm. Leave pedobear alone.
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2010 at 12:02 pm
    Fatninja01 ..."This is so old, its a repost!"

    You pointing this out almost on a daily basis is getting really really old.

    WE KNOW ITS OLD ..Thank you.. now please stop pointing out the obvious.

    On topic.. I`m all for gay marriage, why should strait people be the only miserable ones?
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    Lenten Female 18-29
    96 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 12:08 pm
    Where do you draw the line? If people say that they are born to be murderers or pedophiles, does society have to give them the same rights too and be tolerant of their actions? Of course not, because (most) people know that it is wrong. Homosexuality is wrong too. This whole gay rights thing is getting way out of hand.

    Absolutely, you`re right. Having consensual sex with another human being is just as evil as raping children or killing.

    Oh no... wait, that`s wrong.

    Go drat yourself.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2010 at 12:12 pm
    DEAL!

    I ACCEPT!

    Now let`s see if they hold up their end of the deal! ;)
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    SKINNERNSC Male 30-39
    359 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 12:15 pm
    ....my other car is a prius..
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    Jasonbobdude Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 12:16 pm
    "Where do you draw the line? If people say that they are born to be murderers or pedophiles, does society have to give them the same rights too and be tolerant of their actions?"

    You draw the line at murdering people and/or molestation... Gays marrying is harmless and consensual. Honestly, what`s it doing to you?
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    Norris Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 12:20 pm
    @Musako

    A living will trumps all. God himself could want to visit you in the hospital and if you say, noone but soandso..NO-ONE can say or do ANYTHING, not your friends, not your family.

    If you are with your significant other for a reasonable amount of time, I would get those documents lined up. Sure it wont be full-proof, like pensions may not be covered, but the house, all the medical power of attorney stuff..can all be put into their hands.

    Just hopefully the bigots who wish to stop gay marriage in the States give up, (and they will eventually) you wont ever need such documents.

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    ericka225 Female 18-29
    219 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 12:38 pm
    so many people take marriage for granted they treat it as a joke today. So protecting it is not even a logical argument for stopping gay marriage in my opinion. If they want to get married and go through the trials and the ups and downs then let them it doesnt hurt you in anyway but maybe make you a lil uncomfortable because you dont agree with it. And when people say that its always christians and religions that are protesting it, because you believe in god you cant believe in gay marriage .. that isnt always true, you can believe but still be open minded not every religion tries to creat a perfect clear cut picture of how a person should be
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2010 at 12:40 pm
    Didn`t this same exact subject come up just a few weeks ago ?

    Geesh, This is getting too repetitive. Come on Fancy, Quit trolling us ok ?
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    Norris Male 18-29
    1011 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 12:46 pm
    yes crakr, these inflammatory threads are good for the post count..which is all they care about..which is why every single ad is blocked :)
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    chadders42 Male 13-17
    171 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 12:49 pm
    Gay marriage shouldn`t be forced upon the church but it should be written into law to allow it to happen at the consent of the individual pastors/priests/vicars/whatever....
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    HunterKiller Male 18-29
    363 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 1:09 pm
    Cool, more straight-bashing. As if gay people didn`t break up or split. Ha.
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    Xerasia Female 18-29
    1181 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 1:11 pm
    uh, it`s not the straights that won`t let them marry--it`s the bible-thumping republican retards that won`t let them marry. of course, this site has gotten a touch right-wingy lately, so i`m not surprised the blame is going to the wrong group.
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    kingpong Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 1:20 pm
    They do know that they can get married right? But only the proper way, the way God intended.
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    HunterKiller Male 18-29
    363 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 1:25 pm
    Yeah I miss the days where IAB wouldn`t take sides of "touchy" issues and would shut the f**k up about it and actually entertain more than trying to start flame wars, particulary on the side of the "liberals," but I don`t really give a damn for titles anyway.

    I wonder just where the f**k it started where people say that straight people ALWAYS divorce, assuming that if gay people had marriage, that they wouldn`t divorce. What a crock of bulls**t. I have gay rfiends that become single and then in a relationship and then single again, it`s just life. Enough with this ***damn one-sidedness.
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    kittehdee29 Female 18-29
    803 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 1:36 pm
    You`re overanalyzing. This isn`t necessarily straight bashing, but think about it. Have you ever known a gay Bible thumper? It might be a generalization but anyone with half a brain can figure out what it means.
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    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2010 at 1:37 pm
    I fail to to see what The United States has against personal rights. In Canada here, it`s in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms that one can not discriminate against sexual orientation, which includes marriage. Also churches have there right to disagree, but them can not impose themselves on the law or others. The conservatives here hate this but its the law from our highest court. Gays have the right to marry, but churches also have the right of refusal. Everybodies happy, sort of.
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    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 2:01 pm
    Xerasia: Do you really think the site has gotten "right-wingy"? I don`t feel that way at all (I`m liberal, btw). I feel like it`s more left-wingy than anything.... maybe I`m just not clicking on the links that seem right-winged.
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    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 2:04 pm
    HunterKiller: I think it`s funny you think that there is too much "straight bashing" going on here. I don`t think I`ve seen one comment or link that says "F*ck straight people" or whatever. Just because someone is pro-gay, doesn`t make them anti-straight.
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    h2oxy Male 18-29
    306 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 2:06 pm
    It doesnt look like they have the leverage to make this a "trade" XD they`re making a request lol
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    cookii Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 2:08 pm
    I don`t remember iab being quite so anti-gay before. Is this new or have I missed something?
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 2:09 pm
    @cookii
    that image isn`t anti-gay at all...
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    HunterKiller Male 18-29
    363 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 2:09 pm
    @Dixxyrar then you aren`t look hard enough
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    ShamaziaV2 Male 13-17
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    October 28, 2010 at 2:13 pm
    I feel like smartass bumper stickers and signs and billboards like this aren`t the best way to get straight people to suppport your cause.
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    tridirk Male 50-59
    313 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 2:25 pm
    Here is the next Rights cause I didn`t have to go far to find it!

    The rights of Cougars! 17? Why can`t she marry or be with a 16 year old? He could get a driver`s license in most states.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 2:34 pm
    "A living will trumps all."

    So your partner is in a car accident and has barely a few hours to live. You`d be happy waiting for the living-will paperwork to be sorted out, rather than "you`re her husband? Go right on in"?

    "If you are with your significant other for a reasonable amount of time, I would get those documents lined up. Sure it wont be full-proof, like pensions may not be covered, but the house, all the medical power of attorney stuff..can all be put into their hands."

    Oh, just gloss over the pension huh?

    Marriage allows widows/widowers to collect their dead partner`s pensions. It is IMPORTANT.

    And it doesn`t matter what you put in your will; if they`re not family, the government (at least here) will step in to tax the inheritance.

    "Just hopefully the bigots who wish to stop gay marriage in the States give up"

    Thankfully, I`m British.
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    K3vin Male 18-29
    487 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 2:36 pm
    Brimstone, The charter does not say that one cannot be discriminated against because of sexual orientation. it says they cannot be discriminated against because of their sex.

    Before you go spouting off like an ignorant knob, at least take a second to make sure you know what you`re talking about.
  51. Profile photo of cookii
    cookii Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 2:36 pm
    I-IS-BORED, I meant the comments. There were always a few more homophobic comments here or there, but never as much as this.
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    smidge47 Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 2:42 pm
    @Hunterkiller, gays have never said they wouldn`t divorce. The argument underlying this is that if gay marriage is not allowed because people want to protect the sanctity of marriage, then the best way of implementing this protection is to disallow divorce. And perhaps stopping Britney Spears from getting married.
  53. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 2:43 pm
    "Why can`t she marry or be with a 16 year old?"

    16 is the legal age of consent for sex in Britain. So here, she wouldn`t have a legal issue (unless she was in a position of authority over the teenager, such as a teacher or doctor, in which case special rules apply).

    Frankly, anyone who calls someone who lusts after a post-pubescent teenager a paedophile is being ridiculous. They`re old enough to be physically capable of having sex, so society should be teaching them how to be mentally capable of having sex, not trying to treat them like children.

    Want a religious take on it? Nature hits them with puberty and makes them capable of having sex. If god created that nature, surely then he is giving a very clear sign on when they should start being allowed to have sex?

    Why would god let your sexual functions activate at 13ish if he wanted you to wait until 16/18/21/etc?
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    October 28, 2010 at 2:49 pm
    That`s right I can`t divorce. Because I love my wife too much.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 3:22 pm
    Great, here we go again
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    October 28, 2010 at 3:47 pm
    Thankfully you are...... British ;-)
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    Buck176 Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2010 at 4:05 pm
    No smidge, conserving the sanctity of marriage has nothing to do with divorce. Conserving the sanctity of marriage has to do with marriage being a religious institution that serves two purposes, both of which have to do with children they are 1 to legitimize an heir, and 2 so the act of creating the child would not be a sin in the eyes of their respective god. Since a gay couple can not produce a child on their own, there if no reason for them to marry. It has nothing to do with divorce.
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    premierwondr Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 4:17 pm
    Musuko it`s okay, just admit you`re a pedophile.
    Sure, anyone with carnal, barbaric morality would find your take on the timing of puberty and run with it, but here in the 21st century we have a different way of looking at things.
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    XxCraigxX Male 13-17
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    October 28, 2010 at 4:21 pm
    Pffft nah
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    mvangild Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2010 at 4:35 pm
    Buck, marriage vows are made "till death do you part", not "till you get sick and tired of each other". Divorce inherently violates that oath, therefore violates the sanctity of marriage.

    I had always felt that the government shouldn`t bring religious tenets into laws. The church shouldn`t have to recognize the marriage (doing so violates the separation of church and state amendment), and churches shouldn`t have a say as to who should get married (same amendment violation). The Canadian approach is similar to what I have advocated, and I think it should be implemented here in the States.
  61. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    October 28, 2010 at 4:56 pm
    Marriage rights are not just visitation in a hospital.

    How about being able to collect the body for burrial... not without marriage. And lots of other things, like not testifying against a spouse. Lots of things aren`t covered by a living will or other contracts.

    Or how about being responsible for each others debts and taxes. That goes with marriage too. It`s not just about privelage, but also responsibility.

    If gays don`t get mairried it`s an irrisponsible promiscuous lifestyle.

    If gays do get married and act responsibly its against Gods will for them to marry.

    Y`all haters got us coming and going. Nothing will please the haters so just go to hell.

    `nuff said.
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    Ani187 Female 30-39
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    October 28, 2010 at 5:09 pm
    I saw this bumper sticker the other day, as a matter of fact. I think it`s fair.
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    d-_-b Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    If people want more homicides I guess I`d be ok with it
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    Corpsecrank Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2010 at 5:29 pm
    I don`t understand why gays cannot marry. The entire reason that most people go with is that it is morally wrong or against god. However the problem occurs when you start forcing other people to live according to your religion. We do after all have a freedom of religion.

    Now here is something to think about. What if there were a religion based around homosexuality? I would bet my own life on the fact that people would quickly have to learn to deal with open homosexuality in public because it would them be a protected religion just like any other.
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    enolamron Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 5:35 pm
    @mvangild

    I do my best not to criticize people for this, but it`s really best if you know WHAT the Constitution says before you refer to it. It`s the same reason people laughed at Christine O`Donnell when she said "I don`t know where in the Constituion it mentions that (separation of church and state)." Well, they were wrong, and with all due respect, so are you. I can`t fault anyone who thinks the Constitution demands separation of church and state, because that`s a common misconception. Look up exactly what it says: you will be surprised. One of the best ways to ensure you get your rights as a US citizen is to know what they are.
  66. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2010 at 5:45 pm
    Conserving the sanctity of marriage has to do with marriage being a religious institution

    i) Marriage is not a religious institution. Marriage existed for millenia before religion took it over and that only lasted a very short time.

    ii) Your argument also outlaws secular heterosexual marriages. Do you mean that?

    serves two purposes, both of which have to do with children they are 1 to legitimize an heir, and 2 so the act of creating the child would not be a sin in the eyes of their respective god.

    Your argument would make heterosexual marriages illegal if either person is infertile and annul existing marriages if either person becomes infertile. Do you mean that?

    Legitimising child outside of marriage has existed throughout history, so you`re wrong there too.

    Many people don`t have gods and some gods don`t forbid children outside of marriage anyway. So you`re wrong there too.

    You haven`t
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    lerie Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 6:26 pm
    Also, no haircuts, now showers during your period, no mastubation, and remember to sell your daughter for a few cows. Now this would be totally coherent with someone who does not want gays to marry.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    October 28, 2010 at 6:36 pm
    the gov`ment didnt` issue marriage licenses until about a hunderd years ago. they thought it was a nifty way to generate some one-time tax money. It was the church`s domain to decide who could get hitched, gov`ment just recorded the deed.

    Since this is such a headache for the gov`ment, how about they just stop issueing licenses. They didn`t issue them in the 1700s, or 1800s. Gov`ment marriage licenses is a relatively new idea.
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    lerie Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 6:37 pm
    "If people say that they are born to be murderers or pedophiles, does society have to give them the same rights too and be tolerant of their actions?"

    No, because in both cases there is a person who is damaged.

    "The argument underlying this is that if gay marriage is not allowed because people want to protect the sanctity of marriage.."

    Sanctity according to whom? For me the sanctity of marriage consists in two people in love who make vows before the Gods, who approve true love, regadless gender or sex.

    "They`re old enough to be physically capable of having sex, so society should be teaching them how to be mentally capable of having sex, not trying to treat them like children."

    Well...no. Our brains fully mature after 21, specially the frontal cortex. This means before 21 we are not fully capable of deciding on important matters. Sooo...no.
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    drips Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2010 at 6:39 pm
    I can`t wait until sanity finally prevails and this debate is over. In the interim let`s just give gay people 3/5ths of a vote too.

    And if you want to preserve the "sanctity" if marriage we should close all the chapels in Vegas. And force everyone to remain married until death do them part.

    Fudgking morons...
  71. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2010 at 7:01 pm
    the gov`ment didnt` issue marriage licenses until about a hunderd years ago. they thought it was a nifty way to generate some one-time tax money. It was the church`s domain to decide who could get hitched, gov`ment just recorded the deed.

    That makes the USA a strange place in historical terms. Marriage was usually a social/legal arrangement first and foremost with religion as an optional extra until much later, at least as far back as recorded history goes.

    In the UK, for example, religion was only required in marriage for a period of less than 100 years a couple of hundred years ago. The church recorded marriages for many years before then, but only because it was the only very widespread organisation in which literacy was normal.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 7:18 pm
    makes a valid point...touche and en guarde mien fraude to you my homosexual counterpart :|
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    Satkela Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 7:54 pm
    I soooo agree with this!
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    xxEmo_kid_xx Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2010 at 8:01 pm
    WIN!
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    PringleMan Female 13-17
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    October 28, 2010 at 9:47 pm
    double win!
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    fattpill Male 30-39
    255 posts
    October 28, 2010 at 10:11 pm
    I will Take that Deal and shake on it so. DEAL!!! been married 12 years now so if all Gay people will quit trying to get Married I will stay Married.
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    deathxtra Male 13-17
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    October 28, 2010 at 10:33 pm
    I will Take that Deal and shake on it so. DEAL!!! been married 12 years now so if all Gay people will quit trying to get Married I will stay Married.

    oh boy..
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    smidge47 Female 18-29
    39 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 1:59 am
    Gosh 12 years that`s definitely long enough to know you`ll be together for the rest of your lives.

    Feel it`s time to bring out this
  79. Profile photo of Kegomatix
    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 2:23 am
    You know when people saw that picture of the kid with the pokeballs in his arm and all the tattoos and piercings the first reaction is "sick, what a weirdo, gross what a freak, why would somebody do that that?!"

    Sure its ok to hate on his lifestyle and call him a freak but if I see a picture of a gay guy I`m going to say "gross, what a freak," and everyone is going to look down on me for saying that.

    What is pokeball kid doing to harm anyone? Why can`t he be treated like an equal member of society instead of like a weirdo just because he chooses to live life differently?
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    xxPinkxx Female 18-29
    3830 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 3:56 am
    love it. i want one of these.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 5:42 am
    I will Take that Deal and shake on it so. DEAL!!! been married 12 years now so if all Gay people will quit trying to get Married I will stay Married.
    I think it was a collective "you" fattpill. As in, every straight couple. Not just one.
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    pui Female 18-29
    3575 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 8:44 am
    @fattpill you miss the point. If we`re going to uphold the "sanctity of marriage", than we should go all the way. Gays can`t marry and straight people can`t get divorced. That might work out fine for you, but looking at the divorce rate I`d say the sanctity of marriage is long dead.
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    Hylia Female 30-39
    59 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 9:06 am
    @Kegomatix : Because the pokeball kid choose to do this to himself. Gay and lesbian didn`t.
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    zumtut Male 18-29
    56 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 9:13 am
    Ok, true, gay is not a choice, but there is nothing wrong with it. I don`t think it is a bad thing like the pokeball guy`s arm. Gay is just as normal as everybody else.
  85. Profile photo of Kegomatix
    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 10:01 am
    @Hylia

    I`m tired of hearing that gay isn`t a choice crap. That is so dumb. Gays choose to be gay, period.

    I could be gay, but instead I decided to be straight. Therefore, I CHOOSE to be straight.
  86. Profile photo of danthew
    danthew Male 18-29
    2122 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 10:11 am
    @kego Sounds like you`re bi...

    If homosexuality was a choice why would so many choose it when it often leads to persecution?
  87. Profile photo of Kegomatix
    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 10:30 am
    @danthew

    The arguments supporting the fact that its not a choice are weak at best.

    Why would they choose to do it even if it leads to persecution? Persecution of what? Its not illegal, sure some people give them some trouble but theres a ton of life CHOICES that lead to that.
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    GiveChase Female 18-29
    535 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 10:44 am
    I love how every single person I`ve ever seen use the argument of "gay is a choice" is straight... So are they simply just choosing not to be gay, but they would totally be into it?
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
    1677 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 10:53 am
    I can`t think of a single good reason why anyone should care either way, just let them get married so they can go and look for something else to whine and moan about.
  90. Profile photo of Kegomatix
    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 11:17 am
    @givechase
    Of course every person you see use that argument is straight, if gay people started saying it was a choice they would lose one of their best arguments.

    @paddy215
    I agree, they should legalize gay marriage and get it done with so everyone can move on. I`m never an non-nice individual to them if I see them. I let them do what they do without scrutiny. But I can still decide not to like it.
    And I think the biggest reason I`m afraid of it is because of the DADT policy. Everyone outside the military has no idea how badly a majority of us would like to keep it the way it is. I could care less if gays are serving with me, I just don`t want to know about it.

  91. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 11:21 am
    "I could be gay, but instead I decided to be straight. Therefore, I CHOOSE to be straight."

    Prove it. Put a gay male porno on and give yourself an orgasm whilst watching it.

    And you`re not allowed to think about women while you do it.
  92. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 11:22 am
    Keg, even if it WAS a choice (which it isn`t), what`s so wrong with letting people choose?

    Being against freedom to choose who you want to be...that sounds pretty un-American to me.

    COMMIE!
  93. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 11:32 am
    "I could care less if gays are serving with me, I just don`t want to know about it."

    Then be fair: if you don`t want to hear about a gay soldier`s love life, then would you be happy to have the rule extended so that any straight soldier talking about their love life gets ejected from the military also?

    If you think it`s easy enough for gay soldiers to keep silent, then it should be easy enough for straight soldiers. Then nobody is talking about their love lives, nobody is made to be uncomfortable, nobody is left out of the comradeship, and everything is fair.

    So will you agree? DADT stays, but it applies to EVERY soldier; if you reveal your sexual orientation, gay or straight, you`re booted out.
  94. Profile photo of Kegomatix
    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 12:23 pm
    @Musuko

    Go to hell you F*g I`m sure you take the d**k yourself. I wish I could have an a**hole from Europe call me a commie to my face but oh well that is the freedom of the internet I suppose, say whatever you want without having to worry about someone punching you in the mouth.

    To answer your question though, nothing needs to be changed about DADT. Why would it be smart to make something worse that is obviously creating enough stir in the military as it is at a time of war? It would worsen tensions within our own force which is stupid. Every EO and sexual harassment policy in the book would have to be rewritten. Housing and gender based quarters would have to be changed... So much change at a time when we don`t need any of it. Its fine the way it is and if it isn`t broke why fix it.
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    elgrappa Male 18-29
    96 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 12:39 pm
    re-post?
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    megann_exoh Female 13-17
    688 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 12:54 pm
    who gives a poo if you like men or not! it`s outrageous that in this day and age, so much discrimination goes on about something so bloody silly. if you like women and are a man, go and have marry a woman. if you like men and are a man, go and marry a man. EASY. stop getting so uptight about stuff other people chose to do.
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    krazyfreak58 Female 13-17
    246 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 3:04 pm
    ahhh flame wars. so many people getting mad over something so silly.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 4:02 pm
    I love how every single person I`ve ever seen use the argument of "gay is a choice" is straight... So are they simply just choosing not to be gay, but they would totally be into it?

    Many of them bring up the "humanity would die out from lack of children argument", which is predicated on the assumption that homosexuality is so powerfully appealing that pretty much everyone would choose it given a free choice.

    Which means that they themselves would choose homosexuality if they were given a free choice and they`re assuming that everyone else would.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 4:08 pm
    Kegomatix:

    You have a remarkably low opinion of USA soldiers and what they can deal with. Which is rather odd considering that you claim to be one yourself.

    You made a good point with the pokeball guy comparison, though you`re stupidly and irrationally wrong about choice. Think about it for a second - there were plenty of homosexuals when it carried a death sentence and they were in constant danger. You think they chose that? Really? What the hell for?
  100. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 4:25 pm
    @Kegomatix

    "Go to hell you F*g I`m sure you take the d**k yourself"

    And there your true colours shine. Congratulations.

    "Its fine the way it is and if it isn`t broke why fix it."

    Didn`t people say the same thing when opposing integration?
  101. Profile photo of Kegomatix
    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 9:11 pm
    @Angillion
    Explain what you mean by saying I have a low opinion of USA soldiers? I do have lesser opinions of some, considering my profession in the military but for the most part I share all the same respect for every person serving their country. And please don`t take me for some a**hole parading around claiming to be in the military. I usually don`t mention it at all but as far as DADT is its hard to explain my opinion about it without claiming myself as military.

    @Musuko
    Frankly, I`m getting tired of everyone on this website. Your all the same. All liberal, pacifist "hippies" that can really get on my nerves because whenever I express my opinion about a post, as everyone else does, I get flamed like crazy because my opinions are different than most. Yes, I showed my true colors but what do I care? I`m aggressive by nature, thats who I am.
  102. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 9:31 pm
    Explain what you mean by saying I have a low opinion of USA soldiers?

    Soldiers of other nations handled the repeal of DADT policies without any bother. I think it`s having a low opinion of USA soldiers to think they couldn`t do the same. Soldiers are of necessity practical. They handle situations. UK soldiers handled this one. Canadian soldiers handled this one. Why couldn`t USA soldiers? Are they less disciplined? Are they less able to cope? I don`t think so.

    What difference does it make, really?

    Bob`s gay and you don`t know. You`re not having sex with him.

    Bob`s gay and you do know. You`re not having sex with him.

    What`s the difference? Where is the relevance in a military context?
  103. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 9:33 pm
    And please don`t take me for some a**hole parading around claiming to be in the military.

    I didn`t. I know only the opinions you write here. For all I know, you could be a soldier, an astronaut, a spy, a truck driver, a schoolgirl, a model...anything.
  104. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 9:44 pm
    Also...why would all the changes you talk about be necessary? Repealing DADT doesn`t actually change anything apart from removing a policy that weakens the military by depriving it of some good soldiers.

    Just replace "Don`t ask, don`t tell" with "Don`t care" and it works out fine.

    I don`t doubt that there`s a lot of opposition to repealing DADT in the USA military. There was in the UK military. Until it happened and they realised it didn`t matter.
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    KPres Male 30-39
    309 posts
    October 29, 2010 at 10:08 pm
    Dumb
  106. Profile photo of Kegomatix
    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    October 30, 2010 at 12:06 am
    Angillion,
    There is no way I could ever convince you to change your mind, nor could you change mine. But, you do present good arguments as others have in the past. It is just in my opinion that it would not be in the best interest of our military to change the policy especially now. There is no point in creating unnecessary conflict within the military. And trust me, out of the six different military installations I have been to the general consensus is the same.. For the most part, the current personnel in the military do not want the policy changed. Changing it would go against the general interest of the existing force.. Why do that now?
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    tatripp Male 18-29
    1196 posts
    October 30, 2010 at 8:17 am
    stupid and old
  108. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    October 30, 2010 at 5:04 pm
    Changing it would go against the general interest of the existing force.. Why do that now?

    Because it`s the right thing to do.

    The USA used to have a racially segregated military, right? No doubt there was opposition to desegregation. No doubt people thought it would create unnecessary conflict within the military. So why did they do it?

    Besides, the conflict didn`t occur in other countries when DADT was repealed. It`s by no means certain it would occur in the USA military. Opposition within the military is no indicator - there was majority opposition within the UK military as well. Then it happened and soldiers reacted rationally to the known rather than irrationally to the unknown, so it was a non-issue.
  109. Profile photo of Kegomatix
    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    October 31, 2010 at 9:54 am
    Ok lets do as they did for desegregation. We`ll have all gay brigades and let them slowly transition into the military.

    We`ll call them the fairy brigades.
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    SvampeBob Male 18-29
    3076 posts
    November 1, 2010 at 12:15 pm
    it`s stupid that they can`t get married, but I don`t get why you would voluntary get married, it`s a waste of money and a pain in the ass if you want to get divorced...as most people do
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
    5414 posts
    December 14, 2010 at 5:22 pm
    I don`t get it but I like Rainbows

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