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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    October 2, 2010 at 10:03 am
    Link: Obama, People Are Getting Restless - Another pretty huge sign from a recent protest...
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    October 2, 2010 at 10:13 am
    If we hadn`t invaded Iraq to begin with, we wouldn`t be in this mess, would we?
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    Puddingbrood Male 13-17
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    October 2, 2010 at 10:14 am
    Yeah obama! We voted for a war, and now you should clean up our mess!
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    October 2, 2010 at 10:20 am
    Amen! The only idiots still (or ever) wanting us in them are the rightwing nutjobs who think it`s our job to rid the world of non-Christian interests (oh, yeah, and to increase our oil interests--almost forgot that one).
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    PsychGeek Female 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 10:33 am
    @ puddingbrood:

    it`s been a long time since the war started, and if I`m inaccurate please forgive me....but i don`t think we voted for the war we`re fighting now. if i remember correctly, the ORIGINAL war was against Bin Laden (whom we still haven`t found) and the actions against America on 9/11. since then the war has been twisted around to the point that no one really knows why we`re fighting anymore. we "voted" for the war at a time when we were afraid and angry and wanting revenge...but that`s not what we`re feeling anymore.

    if anyone had known what the original "war" would turn into all these years later, i don`t think they would have supported it.
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    Sarph Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 10:37 am
    Would be ironic if that banner was removed, eh? :P
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 2, 2010 at 10:46 am
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    Intaresting Male 18-29
    812 posts
    October 2, 2010 at 10:48 am
    "Please Obama, wipe our asses."
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    October 2, 2010 at 10:51 am
    I`m pretty sure that Obama can`t just say "Get all the soldiers out of the middle east by tomorrow". The war in the middle east is very, very complicated, I doubt that he can just pick up and leave.

    Look at what happened when the British Empire left places like Zimbabwe and Sudan. Chaos, war, starvation. I have no idea if Obama secretly browses IAB, but if he does, I`d recommend that he takes his time and thinks this through. Ending such a conflict so suddenly could have disastrous consequences.
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    Puddingbrood Male 13-17
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    October 2, 2010 at 10:52 am
    @Psychgeek: I agree with you, but the problem is this isn`t a game, you can`t quit once you`ve started. Same goes for Iraq.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 10:53 am
    @madest

    you honestly expected him to pull ALL of our soldiers out?
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    October 2, 2010 at 11:11 am
    "Yeah obama! We voted for a war, and now you should clean up our mess!"


    Yeah, in case you didn`t know, the decision to go to war was not put to a popular referendum. Just sayin.` And less than 50% of the people who voted in the 2000 election even voted for the Bush.
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    Calummac Male 13-17
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    October 2, 2010 at 11:19 am
    He doesnt want to pull troops out because it will make America seem weak.
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    ROK9 Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 11:22 am
    lol now is obamas war and they hate him but when it was bushs war it was love the us or leave it
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    Jasonbobdude Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 11:23 am
    Just about any political move should be done carefully, especially ending a war.

    We`re gradually taking out forces, which is good, but if we did it all at once everything would just collapse. The effort that we have put in over there shouldn`t go to waste.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    October 2, 2010 at 11:27 am
    ...because Saddam and Mullah Omar were really nice guys.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 11:32 am
    The cool thing is it can work for every president (Just change the presidents name)
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 11:40 am
    PsychGeek: We actually originally invaded Iraq in 1990 - because they raised prices on oil. This was Operation Desert Storm. People seem to forget that happened.

    Probably because I wasn`t even alive when it happened.
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    greguire Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 11:46 am
    Actually, I`m pretty sure they invaded Iraq in 1990 because Saddam was moving troops in to Kuwait and other countries after we strictly told him not to. Not because they "raised the prices on oil"
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    October 2, 2010 at 11:48 am
    No worries the USA is not weak. Rightwing nutjobs? I remember several wars that Dems (I guess that would be leftwing nutjobs, brought us in to). Why does every discussion have to be right or left?

    It is interesting to read all the diverse comments, and wonder how this person got to their opinion?

    It`s good to know that all the evil in the world has gone.

    We are living the 60`s again. Thanks for the stroll down memory lane. Same arguments and disagreements 40 to 50 years later. Good stuff.
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    MrSchreiber Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 11:52 am
    People are mad because during his campaign one of his main deals was ending the war, and now people are wanting to actually see the results. People are unnaturally impatient.
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    IssaTheFiend Female 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 12:15 pm
    I think it`s pretty much agreed upon that we do need to gtfo but that sh*t doesn`t happen overnight people. Also nice sign.
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    October 2, 2010 at 12:19 pm
    What are the "F*cking Wars" ? I heard of the falkin` islands, but that was years ago.
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 12:24 pm
    Oh, possibly, greguire. Again, I wasn`t alive then. I just knew we`ve been wanting oil for a long time, and they had some, and they were raising the prices on it.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    October 2, 2010 at 12:25 pm
    @madest: I certainly want us to GTFO, but might the consequences be worse than the present situation?
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    October 2, 2010 at 12:27 pm
    tridirk, I was speaking specifically about the wars we`re currently in. But, thinking back, I don`t that my statement`s not true of all wars since WWII. Matter of fact...yep, I`m right.
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 12:52 pm
    "I certainly want us to GTFO, but might the consequences be worse than the present situation?"

    They may. The present situation may also be worse than the consequences.
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    Ruswut Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 1:17 pm
    Why not just pull out all US troops for a few months and see what happens... if it all goes to crap then go back in and next time someone tries one of these protests just slap them round the back of the head?
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    lastrogue Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 1:21 pm
    Obama can`t end the wars since it`s not him that really makes the decisions. it`s the banks behind the scenes pulling the strings. Once you realize that you can stop pointing your finger at the puppet and realize what/who the puppet`s strings are leading to.
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    k8lin Female 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 1:32 pm
    I`ll be the first to admit, I know nothing about war, but I can`t help but think it`s as easy as these banner-makers are suggesting. I mean, if it was, don`t you think they would have already?
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    MrYouKnow Male 13-17
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    October 2, 2010 at 1:43 pm
    yes
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    Xerasia Female 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 1:44 pm
    it`s his fault the wars are still going on, even though he didn`t have anything to do with them starting? that makes a lot of sense...
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 1:54 pm
    madest our troops aren`t there in a combat role. We got embassies and military bases over that need to be staffed and guarded.
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    EricWRN Male 30-39
    590 posts
    October 2, 2010 at 1:54 pm
    wow, there are a lot of crooked corporatists and politicking going on in the background of wars but um... banks don`t really have anything to do with it

    Second of all Obama surely didn`t start these wars, but he CERTAINLY made promises about ENDING our involvement in Iraq and WINNING in Afghanistan. Obama`s promises on Afghanistan sort of turned out like his promises about the economy - they`re both going WORSE now that he`s involved!
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    EricWRN Male 30-39
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    October 2, 2010 at 1:57 pm
    madest: your last comment is the first thing we`ve ever ALMOST agreed on!
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
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    October 2, 2010 at 2:00 pm
    has it occurred to anyone else that it might be a good idea to mandate that the Commander In Chief of the U.S. Military has some basic, real, actual military experience?

    veterans, for god`s sake, are pleading for peace. doesn`t that say something?

    the problem, as i see it, is that the country has been run (lately) by presidents with no military experience and hence they can`t really identify with people with combat experience and all that entails. and also the families of said military personnel have a different set of problems and concerns than other families of comparable social and economic standing.

    its a terrible shame that Colin Powell won`t run for president.
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    EricWRN Male 30-39
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    October 2, 2010 at 2:06 pm
    madest: your last comment is the first thing we`ve ever ALMOST agreed on!
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    EricWRN Male 30-39
    590 posts
    October 2, 2010 at 2:08 pm
    slut_etta: some of the biggest hawk presidents we`ve had were veterans. Petreaus is going to turn into a politician and I promise you he won`t be anti-war. Hell, George Bush had "military experience", look how well that went!

    Furthermore these groups don`t represent most veterans. They are a minority.
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    October 2, 2010 at 2:13 pm
    @ smag American Leadership and War

    Not that I am keeping score. All Presidents are charged with the security of the American People at home and abroad. But...

    Korea? Truman
    Vietnam? Kennedy/Johnson sent the first combat troops
    Bosnia? Clinton

    I think I am correct. A simple search of the net could confirm, if not... my apologies to one of our former Presidents.

    Get off the Right wing Left wing bandwagon. We are all Americans.
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    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 4:59 pm
    I think it`d be a good idea for the Commander in Chief to not be the President.

    They only reason they`re the same is that the first president was already really high up there. They should NOT be the same person.
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    Wildcats2008 Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 5:18 pm
    Siyanor,

    Yes...then if the guy that is running the military gets the wild hair up his but that he just can`t STAND the leader of the government he can just use his position as the leader of the military to over run the capitol and create a military dictatorship...yeah, that`d be a good idea...

    Just so you know, the founders wrote the constitution over a period of 5 months and argued over for 2 years before it was ratified...I`m sure they didn`t just say "eh, he`s already a military leader, lets just make that part of the job".

    They spend lots of time and debate over how it should be written and NOTHING was done on a whim.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    October 2, 2010 at 5:37 pm
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    eskimo9 Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 5:39 pm
    So, does the President have the power to spontaneously withdraw all troops from wherever he feels like? In Australia I think the PM would have to go through Parliament, and a poo-tonne of bureaucratic bs just so he can advise the bloke in charge of the military to move troops around. Correct me if I`m wrong, anyone who knows better.
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    MildCorma Male 18-29
    496 posts
    October 2, 2010 at 6:02 pm
    I love that Obama didn`t start these wars, has withdrawn all combat troops fron iraq or afganistan (i honestly can`t remember which one though as im ignorant) and yet people will insist on being massive pricks for no reason other than it makes them hard.
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    panda_chaos Female 18-29
    235 posts
    October 2, 2010 at 6:34 pm
    If the troops leave, then the innocent people of the middle east who supported the troops being there will get slaughtered by the enemy we`re fighting. Do some frickin` research and realize the price we have to pay before our men and women can come home.
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    xavroche Male 30-39
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    October 2, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    @eskimo: Yes he technically has the power....

    However logistically getting all the troops out of combat situations isn`t that simple...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    October 2, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    lol now is obamas war and they hate him but when it was bushs war it was love the us or leave it
    @ROK9 - By "they" I`m guessing you mean Veterans for Peace, who made the sign? They protested loudly against Bush as well. I actually give them (a little) credit for still opposing Obama too. Them and Code Pink. Both are nutzo groups, but when Bush was in charge they were MSM darlings! Now? Not so much as a peep about them.
    just pull out all US troops for a few months and see what happens...
    @RussWut, that`s the worst idea I`ve ever heard on the subject. Worst! Ever!
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 2, 2010 at 8:02 pm
    Just for comparison:

    The liberal `One Nation` rally today.




    Glenn Beck`s Rally

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    woomanfoo Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 9:04 pm
    I`m sure the difference in press coverage for each event had nothing to do with the turnouts, Crakr...
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    October 2, 2010 at 9:11 pm
    @crackr... Great pics.

    Looks like 7,800 by independent observations or was it only 78,000?

    E
  51. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 2, 2010 at 9:11 pm
    woomanfoo: It was promoted on virtually all the liberal blogs and mentioned on CNN over a week ago.
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    Ozmose Male 30-39
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    October 2, 2010 at 9:21 pm
    @CrakrJak

    Wait until John Stewart`s rally on the 30th.
    After that we can compare crowd size, but when it comes to IQ even the small crowd has Beck`s beat.
    Glen Beck is a clown, and anyone that takes anything he says seriously, is a ******* retard.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 2, 2010 at 9:45 pm
    Ozmose: Your betting on comedians to rally more ? Especially, On the day most communities will have kids out trick-or-treating ?

    The democrats are `jumping ship` trying to get away from Obama, It`s evident in several campaign ads.

    I`ll have some tissues ready for you November 8th.
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    TheWaffle Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 10:44 pm
    I really hate the way he`s been the poster child for blacks. First of all, if race truly did not matter in this country, we wouldn`t even care that he was black! Secondly, "black president! black president! black president!" ...am I the only one that remembers that he`s only HALF black? I wonder how his mother feels about that whole thing... Like her racial contribution to her President son is now null and void.
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    TheWaffle Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 10:49 pm
    And no, I`m not racist (well, not much. "everyone`s a little bit racist"), I just don`t get it. Try having a White Entertainment Television or a White History Month. National Association for the Advancement of Whites, anyone? I didn`t think so.
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    Snowlock Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2010 at 11:08 pm
    @ waffle everyone knows obama is an oreo
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    October 3, 2010 at 1:47 am
    John Stewart? He is an elitist bigot. OOps...damn I just got fired.
    I need to learn to tow the party line and just be a good little minority...... Rick Sanchez ;-/
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    MTKK Male 18-29
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    October 3, 2010 at 5:21 am
    Well, intellectual and idealist reformers rarely get more than one term anyway. It was a happy accident he was elected in the first place. If all those illiterate black voters had actually looked past his skin colour and caught a glimpse of his program, he would never have garnered enough votes.

    At least he managed to right a few wrongs before you nincompoops had the chance to vote against him. America has always been the perfect case against democracy.
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    sawdusty Male 40-49
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    October 3, 2010 at 5:22 am
    Wait, what, someone said Obama is black I always thought he just had a really deep jersey shore tan.
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    Chinchilla9 Female 18-29
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    October 3, 2010 at 9:12 am
    It doesn`t matter if he`s black or white. He hasn`t done ANYTHING he promised to do. He`s been completely MIA. I can`t even remember when I last saw him in the news. I hope he isn`t too shocked when he doesn`t win a second term.
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    tridirk Male 50-59
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    October 3, 2010 at 9:54 am
    MTKK... "America has always been the perfect case against democracy"? You have to be kidding?

    Have you been here? Do you really know, "We the People"?
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    October 3, 2010 at 10:14 am
    Crakr, I feel like you`re genuinely insulting my intelligence with those pictures.

    It`s so completely obvious that those pictures were taken at completely different times of the day.

    I would EXPECT numbers to be pretty different when you`re comparing pictures from earlier in the day to those taken at midday.

    I won`t take sides, but seriously, if you want to make any impression with pictures like that, find them taken from similar angles and at similar times of the day.

    Otherwise, you`re like a scientist changing multiple variables in an experiment. The results are OBVIOUSLY going to be different.

    Not only that, but I`m also gonna say press coverage had a lot to do with it. Beck`s rally was kinda shoved down the throats of EVERYONE. Even I knew about it, and I don`t pay attention to that crap.
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    zeebeedee Male 50-59
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    October 3, 2010 at 12:20 pm
    Obama couldn`t talk an Irishman into a pint.
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    margot138 Female 18-29
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    October 3, 2010 at 12:33 pm
    Why didn`t they say this is Bush also?
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    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
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    October 3, 2010 at 12:35 pm
    "It doesn`t matter if he`s black or white. He hasn`t done ANYTHING he promised to do. He`s been completely MIA. I can`t even remember when I last saw him in the news. I hope he isn`t too shocked when he doesn`t win a second term."

    Maybe if you listened to or watched the news and didn`t spend all of your time on the internet you`d hear about Obama. Seriously, people are so quick to piss and moan that he hasn`t done anything yet, but he`s been in office for a year-and-a-half. The people who want to see him fail are the one`s talking about how he hasn`t done anything. We live in a time of instant gratification, to point that if the president (a single person) can`t fix all of our problems in a matter of months, we feel justified in calling the president lazy and a promisebreaker. If people would look for ways to help get things back on track rather than sitting around blaming others all of the time, maybe things would change.
  66. Profile photo of DavioMagnifi
    DavioMagnifi Male 13-17
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    October 3, 2010 at 2:21 pm
    @ Shnard-dog
    Roosevelt did a hundred times more in his first term than Obama has done so far.
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    MTKK Male 18-29
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    October 3, 2010 at 3:01 pm
    @ tridirk

    Yes, I have been to Illinois on many occasions, since I have family in Chicago. I am also well-acquainted with the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers and the Bill of Rights, as my field is American History.

    I also happen to know that 1/3 of the people who signed the document you quoted were slave owners, and that the contemporary American lobby system is a disgrace to the idea of democracy, as is the fact that antiquated winner-takes-it-all electoral votes can circumvent the popular vote.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 3, 2010 at 3:53 pm
    Altaru: Even the mainstream press estimated the `one nation` crowd at it`s peak to maybe be 10,000,
    Beck had 50 times that many people.
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    Dolomyte Male 18-29
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    October 3, 2010 at 4:54 pm
    @MTKK

    Since your field is American history allow me to help you in your studies by pointing out some flawed perspective to the founding documents.

    First of all the united States of America is a republic not a democracy. The Constitution guarantees to every state a Republican form of government (Art. 4, Sec. 4). Republican government. One in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people, either directly, or through representatives chosen by the people, to whome those powers are specially delegated. In re Duncan, 139 U.S. 449, 11 S.Ct. 573, 35 L.Ed. 219; Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. (21 Wall.) 162, 22 L.Ed. 627. . The difference of a democracy and republic is in where the sovereignty is vested. In a democracy, sovereignty is vested in the majority, a.k.a majority rules. In the united States of America sovereignty is vested in each person with no one to govern but themselves, se
  70. Profile photo of Dolomyte
    Dolomyte Male 18-29
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    October 3, 2010 at 4:57 pm
    "...at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects...with none to govern but themselves; the citizens of America are equal as fellow citizens, and as joint tenants in the sovereignty." CHISHOLM v. GEORGIA (US) 2 Dall 419, 454, 1 L Ed 440, 455 @DALL 1793 pp471-472

    That is a US Supreme court decision in 1793 to express the meaning.
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    Dolomyte Male 18-29
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    October 3, 2010 at 5:06 pm
    @MTKK

    Also during the colonial period Thomas Jefferson often took cases for African Americans pro bono in order to express his personal idealogy, although he lost every case, the idealogy came apparent in the wording of the Declaration of Independence, We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal and endowed with unalienable rights... This is in stark contrast to the Divine Right of Kings, where one person, the King, was ordained by god to have unalienable rights. All men as worded by Thomas Jefferson was obviously including African American men as well.
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    Nburkie420 Male 18-29
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    October 3, 2010 at 7:37 pm
    CrakrJak- Glen Beck is actually the most idiotic person I have ever heard speak. Those that listen to the sh it he spews is just as stupid.
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    Dolomyte Male 18-29
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    October 3, 2010 at 8:06 pm
    @Nburkie420

    Not everything Glenn Beck says is completely idiotic, he has some remarkable points and some absurd points. It is the effects of highly compartmentalized thinking, where 2+2=5 sometimes. I thought his rally was hilarious, all that hype and then at the moment, the very pivotal moment, he had nothing substantial to say.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    October 3, 2010 at 10:43 pm
    [quote">It`s so completely obvious that those pictures were taken at completely different times of the day.[/quote">
    SO Altaru, please provide us with pictures of the liberals FILLING the White House grounds, like Beck`s rally did? Obviously with 100`s of cameras and Mass Media persons, such pictures must be EASY to find? No? Can`t find ANY? Perhaps that`s because they DON`T EXIST? lolz!

    Put up or STFU! Y`all can easily accuse, but cannot back up your words with shiite!

    (I suggested this link for IAB)
    Side By Side Photos
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    bryantm3 Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2010 at 12:38 am
    @5Cats

    the rally to restore sanity is on october 30. i don`t recall one being on oct 2, and i`m not sure of anyone else that does. who called that rally? this is a bad comparison.
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2010 at 2:51 am
    @Dolomyten Are you serious? Jefferson had pooloads of slaves, he was clearly racist and obviously didn`t treat black people as equals, making him a hypocrite.
  77. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 4, 2010 at 4:32 am
    Nburkie420: Yeah sure, Glenn Beck is an idiot, That`s why he has one of the most watched news commentary shows on TV and a huge radio program audience as well. That`s why his books are on the NY Times best seller list and he drew 500,000 people to the steps of the Lincoln memorial. Yeah, Idiots draw audiences like that all the time. <sarcasm>
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    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2010 at 6:21 am
    "Roosevelt did a hundred times more in his first term than Obama has done so far."

    We`re living in a slightly different time than when Roosevelt was in office.
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2010 at 7:04 am
    Now thats a big sign.
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    Dolomyte Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2010 at 9:10 am
    @paddy215

    Yes, he was a hypocrite. He was also a sexist, where women were subordinate to men, and he supported child labor, (at one point on his estate he forced the slave children to forge nails so he could sell the nails and fund his expansions on his mansion). The idealogy that all people are equal was not originally Jefferson`s, it was that of his college professor, William Small. I believe the idealogy stands on it`s own merits and deeply influenced the founding documents, although compliance to the idealogy has been a struggle since the beginning.
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    MyJobSucks Male 18-29
    177 posts
    October 4, 2010 at 11:09 am
    @CrakrJak - Britney Spears goes platinum, Sarah Palin has all kinds of a following. People actually do watch Jersey Shore. So yeah, people WILL listen to stupid people. The fact that Beck is successful does not indicate that he is intelligent whatsoever. Glenn Beck is REALLY stupid. And he`s a Mormon.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
    3483 posts
    October 4, 2010 at 11:34 am
    Put up or STFU! Y`all can easily accuse, but cannot back up your words with shiite!
    5BrainCells, STFU yourself.

    I wasn`t trying to prove a point. I wasn`t taking sides. I wasn`t involved. I was simply stating that, if you want to make an accurate comparison that proves a point, you should use pictures taken at similar times, from similar locations.

    I don`t give a f*ck which one did or didn`t fill the grounds. (BTW, learn WTF you`re talking about before telling anyone to STFU. They filled the grounds of the Lincoln memorial, dumbass.)

    I was stating that, from a scientific point of view, the pictures that Crakr posted could not be used as an accurate comparison.

    The ones in your post, on the other hand, could.

    Don`t bitch at me until you actually understand what I was f*cking saying, assh*ole.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
    3483 posts
    October 4, 2010 at 11:46 am
    That`s why he has one of the most watched news commentary shows on TV and a huge radio program audience as well.
    You know some other most watched shows on television?

    Professional Wrestling and American Idol.

    he drew 500,000 people to the steps of the Lincoln memorial. Yeah, Idiots draw audiences like that all the time.
    You know who ELSE could draw large crowds and make grand speeches and get people together under one massive banner? Adolf Hitler. Maybe not an idiot, but a genocidal psychopath at the least.


    Your arguments just don`t holding any water once someone puts them under scrutiny.

    And before you start pulling out all that "Altaru must be a liberal, since he`s attacking all the conservatives," bullsh*t, it`s cause there`s really nothing the liberals have said that I can tear down. For that matter, they really haven`t said ANYTHING that hasn`t been torn down already...
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    October 4, 2010 at 5:15 pm
    Altaru: I believe your analysis is lacking because every liberal that`s had a similar TV or radio show has had low ratings.

    Then again, It`s likely your belief that `smart` people are a minority and `dumb` people are the majority, Which would be really condescending.

    Also, You could make the same `Hitler` comparison to the popularity Obama once had. It`s a misused and overused comparison, Because neither of them are similar to Schicklgruber.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
    3483 posts
    October 4, 2010 at 6:59 pm
    Also, You could make the same `Hitler` comparison to the popularity Obama once had. It`s a misused and overused comparison, Because neither of them are similar to Schicklgruber.
    Can you not see how you just proved my point?

    Numbers mean NOTHING, because large gatherings of stupid people still only have enough brain cells to make a couple moves in chess.

    The number of followers NEVER means someone is right. It means they`re charismatic, loud, obnoxious, and are able to convince people that "I`m on your side!"

    Then again, It`s likely your belief that `smart` people are a minority and `dumb` people are the majority, Which would be really condescending.
    And you`re going to tell me I`m wrong? Studies (and common sense, and just overall general observation) show that, in general, stupid people breed more. Also, in general, stupid parents don`t exactly raise geniuses.
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    whatevs Female 13-17
    126 posts
    October 4, 2010 at 7:16 pm
    come on guys, chances are if we have accounts on this site we`re really not smart enough to have sensible political debates.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    October 4, 2010 at 11:54 pm



    Source: NY Times
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    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
    229 posts
    October 5, 2010 at 6:29 am
    Are liberals more intelligent than conservatives?

    Crakr, here is an actual academic journal article to consider.

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