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  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:33 am
    Link: Do You Think You`re Vegan? - According to this chart, you`re not.
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    martinikene Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:35 am
    LOL Shampoo... It seemes my friend shall not wash himself anymore...
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:37 am
    LOL, now I am going to challenge every vegan I meat << see what I did there?
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    Kougaiji Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:39 am
    Anyone have info as to how cow blood relates to pasta...? and bones in charcoal?
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    mamba Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:40 am
    this is why i cba trying to be vegan
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:41 am
    Vegans and vegetarians are such hypocrites.
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    kittehdee29 Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:41 am
    This isn`t necessarily true, as much as I think being a vegan is a waste of time. Companies make so many organic products, and a lot of them are certified vegan now.
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    Skabashas Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:47 am
    Well, this appears to be very biased. It subversively asserts that ALL off those products are ALWAYS made from cattle. I believe that, in the case of most of those products, there may be rare instances where various parts of cattle are used, but certainly not in all instances of those products. As a musician, I am familiar with kit-gut strings, which are often made from sheep or cattle, but I have never used a set, and they have not been mainstream or even common since the 1930s. Also, they`re quite expensive. I think that the creators of this chart scoured each of these products and, after finding just one instance of cattle parts being used, plopped it down on their chart to assert some sort of opinion, although I`m not entirely sure what that position is, or why they care so much.
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    Ozwolo Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:48 am
    Time to ruin some lives
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    Trizz Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:48 am
    Yeah but about 80% of these products do not clearly state this, so I don`t think you can really blame vegans of being contradictory.
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    greggpethers Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:50 am
    good.

    meat is too delicious not to eat.

    and all this other stuff is too useful.

    vegans baffle me.
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    ieatbunnies Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:50 am
    I only eat non-bovine pet food.
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    fivezones Male 40-49
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:52 am
    People make such a fuss about how Indians used the whole animal. I think this is very impressive. Waste not
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:52 am
    "Well, this appears to be very biased. It subversively asserts that ALL off those products are ALWAYS made from cattle."

    Misleading, yes. But if a vegan was extremely serious about it, they would absolutely have to do research on every single product they purchase before they use/eat it.
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:55 am
    Yeppers, I`m a vegan!
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    Student_Law Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:55 am
    @ SkabaShas: Totally agree, right on the point.
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    Rman1201 Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:56 am
    I agree with skabashas...
    I researched the sugar part since I am a vegetarian and I do consume sugar... Some cane sugar passes through a bone char filter (the sugar is usually specifically labeled as cane sugar), and the same bone filter is reused for many years, so the chances of even a particle of bone present in the sugar is 0.0000%....
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    jbwhite Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:57 am
    @Skabashas I didn`t read all of what you said, but I think you`re trying too hard.

    Would you rather the animal die in vain just for the meat, or use up all the parts in very non-wasting sort of way...
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    jbwhite Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 11:59 am
    @Rman1201
    aren`t you at least sickened that what you eat has to pass through dead animal parts before you consume it? or do you have no principal (in which case you disgust me good sir)
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:01 pm
    "@Skabashas I didn`t read all of what you said"
    Any credibility your post might have had just vanished.
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    inaria Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:01 pm
    Though vegans are extremely annoying and I despise everything about them, this chart is definitely not a good representation of what is made using cow parts. Like Skabashas said below, yes cow parts may be used in some instances of some of these items, but there are usually alternatives to the cow-parts which use synthetic materials. eg. wallpaper, instrument strings, tennis racket strings etc.
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    jbwhite Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:01 pm
    @gorgack2000
    so now you`re making excuses? well poo, since you`re not actually eating the whole cow when you have a steak, shouldn`t someone who just eats a steak still be considered vegetarian/vegan? because honestly just eating the meat of the animal... that barely counts...
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:02 pm
    `Do You Think You`re Vegan?` no, no i do not
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    AtlasOtus Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:04 pm
    Did you know the best kind of lard for soap making is buffalo?
  25. Profile photo of DixxyRarr
    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:08 pm
    I`m not a vegan. This girl loves her meat.

    But, I`d venture to say, that most vegans would be pleased with a lot of these products because the uneatable parts of the animal are being put to good use.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:09 pm
    "shouldn`t someone who just eats a steak still be considered vegetarian/vegan? because honestly just eating the meat of the animal... that barely counts..."

    uhm...wuht?

    the whole point of being a vegetarian or a vegan is to NOT EAT MEAT or anything that comes from a living breathing animal...

    that said...plants eat and breath too...just cuz they cant move does that mean that they arent animals or better yet alive?
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    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:09 pm
    Science is steadily replacing all of these function with cheaper more sustainable and immediately available alternatives.

    At some point the only function for cattle WILL be food.
  28. Profile photo of AtlasOtus
    AtlasOtus Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:10 pm
    "I`m not a vegan. This girl loves her meat."

    That`s what she said...
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    moefreak Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:15 pm
    Yup, useful animals. Tasty, too.

    I don`t have issues with vegans or vegetarians as such, it just bothers me that they often make such a big deal about it. In this one newspaper they had a feature on "What is the best thing you`ve done with your life" and SO MANY people said "Become a vegetarian". You are not saving the world.
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    jbwhite Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:15 pm
    @DickenMcHunt
    So what happens when science can replace the sustenance from the meat of a cow with a cheaper more sustainable option, ditto for the milk, and the cow becomes totally useless.
    We will stop killing cows for food, then what? Hundreds of thousands of cows that were being slaughtered regularly will not be slaughtered, they will breed and become so over populated the only humane thing to do would be kill them. But that would be a waste, killing them for sheer living space, so we should eat them, otherwise it`s just insanity.
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    scoundrel1 Male 40-49
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:20 pm
    60% of this is inaccurate....
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    NoxasRisen Male 13-17
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:20 pm
    I don`t know many vegans who use shampoo or deodorant. They fall under the `less than cleanly` category.
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    jfishx Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:23 pm
    jbwhite, the point is that right now we are breeding "Hundreds of thousands of cows" in order to meet the demand. As the use of synthetics rise, the demand for animal byproducts will decline, meaning the number of animals bred will decline as well. We will not be overrun with cows. And there will always be people who will enjoy a tasty steak now and then, so it`s not like no one will ever eat them or use them ever again.
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    jbwhite Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:27 pm
    @jfishx
    alright, valid statement

    but wouldn`t you like to see the war of the cows vs humans... mount laser beams on their heads... would be a good battle.
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    coolbananas Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:30 pm
    o____________o
  36. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:30 pm
    "60% of this is inaccurate...."

    20% of the time :P
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    philippic Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:31 pm
    no it`s not
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    panth753 Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:32 pm
    As long as they`re using the whole body for something.
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    Rhythmdvl Male 40-49
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:33 pm
    I slept through my high school geology class. Since then I`ve wondered where minerals come from. Thanks to this graphic, now I know (half the battle down!).

    Minerals come from cow`s blood.
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:33 pm
    "So what happens when science can replace the sustenance from the meat of a cow with a cheaper more sustainable option, ditto for the milk, and the cow becomes totally useless."

    "Soylent Green is PEOPLE!!"

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:34 pm

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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:36 pm
    It is a great thing that we try to use every piece and part of the animal instead of simply discarding it.
    I prefer the Prime Rib part myself, but to each their own.
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    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:37 pm
    "...if not... slaughtered, they will breed and become so over populated the only humane thing to do would be kill them."

    First off- the billions of cows on the face of the earth were bred by humans... there already IS an overpopulation. All the evidence of domestic farm animals turned feral shows that typically numbers decrease (Horses, Camels, Rams, etc.)

    Second, science is hundreds of years away from producing synthetic foodstuffs capable of equaling organic foodstuffs. Once we are capable of doing so that will solve a logistic hurdle for space travel, also by that time we should have the furthered other sciences enough to exist on other planets (i.e. Mars) effectively doubling potential capacity for humanity.

    That said- the implication of my post was that right now we essentially have to kill these animals in order to maintain modern industry, in the future, however, we will have the CHOICE to kill or not kill.
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    Aadya Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:38 pm
    While its great for people who want to go "vegan" the problem for me comes in are those that feel they need to share. By share I mean berate you for eating meat and their holier-than-thou attitudes when you refuse to change your ways. They are as bad as the bible beaters who LOVE to inform you about your trip to hell for not going to their church.
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:40 pm
    Animals eat other animals, we`re just giving them their comeuppence.
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    pompousass7 Male 40-49
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:42 pm
    the cows eat all the vegetables for you..so when i eat nice juicy steak i like to think i am simply eating the best part of the vegetables handily processed for me by the cow ready to bar b que
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    jbwhite Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:42 pm
    @DickenMcHunt
    well played,
    but still... cows vs humans? laser beams? WAR!!!?
  48. Profile photo of DixxyRarr
    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:46 pm
    Moefreak: "What is the best thing you`ve done with your life" and SO MANY people said "Become a vegetarian". You are not saving the world."

    Eating vegetarian is actually much more environmentally sound. At least in the US, the beef/chicken/swine industries put major stress on habitats through overgrazing, improper disposal of wastes, erosion, methane emissions etc. Have you ever seen the documentary "Food Inc."? I highly recommend it.
  49. Profile photo of DixxyRarr
    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:48 pm
    AtlasOtus: Nice. I set you up for that :)
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    idiotfilter Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:53 pm
    wow...cows are like the supergood of everything....
  51. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:56 pm
    What happens when a vegan becomes a zombie..
  52. Profile photo of Sathon
    Sathon Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:57 pm
    I think the point here is not that every single time a vegan uses one of these products they are consuming one with animal parts in it, because it`s definitely not in every instance of those products that cow parts appear, but rather just that since that many products do have instances with cow parts in them, it`s inevitable that a vegan will consume at least one of those instances, at some point.
  53. Profile photo of a1butcher
    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:57 pm
    DixxyRarr... Cows convert inedible plants ( silage ) into tasty tasty food that we can consume.
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    abby0315 Female 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 12:59 pm
    Now we know what the All Natural Ingredients are in the in the ingredient label on the back of the products.
  55. Profile photo of darkgear6
    darkgear6 Male 70 & Over
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:12 pm
    There`s a LOAD of things made from pigs. Saw on a TED Talk
  56. Profile photo of Inter237
    Inter237 Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:12 pm
    At least we aren`t wasteful with them!
  57. Profile photo of sirrix
    sirrix Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:17 pm
    Odd that leather didn`t make the list...
  58. Profile photo of Rise23Up
    Rise23Up Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:18 pm
    Well, I`m off to go pester the hipsters that hang at WholeFoods...
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    kimkio Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:20 pm
    take that peta!
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    razordragon Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:25 pm
    They really use every part of the cow, now.
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    addler Male 13-17
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:27 pm
    I am actually very happy to see that so many parts are in use.

    Take that Native Americans and your stupid buffalo!
  62. Profile photo of DixxyRarr
    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:33 pm
    "Cows convert inedible plants ( silage ) into tasty tasty food that we can consume."

    Good call on cows being tasty, I agree. All I`m saying is that the large-scale meat industry in the US is environmentally unsustainable.
    And I did a quick google on silage and found that it releases nitric acid during fermentation which is extremely corrosive.
  63. Profile photo of SPARTAKITTY
    SPARTAKITTY Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:33 pm
    Or the vegans could just stop eating, drinking, taking pills, and doing anything at all. That would solve the problem.
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    slab-of-rage Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:36 pm
    you should see the bit of the cow that DOESN`T get used... *shudders*
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    Ton_Of_Ham Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:37 pm
    It makes me happy we can use so much of the cow, like Indians!
  66. Profile photo of DarkFerret
    DarkFerret Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:41 pm
    MMMMMM cow blood
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    puppies04 Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:46 pm
    From this picture i conlcude that the black parts of a cow are useless
  68. Profile photo of Madluk
    Madluk Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:52 pm
    A Chevrolet is a type of car, but not all cars are Chevrolets. Just because these products CAN be made with parts of a cow doesn`t mean every company does. I am a vegan, but I could give a drat about cows. Kill em, eat em, whatever. More for you guys!
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    tstyblucryns Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:53 pm
    I`m not sure that manure can be used in the argument against vegans considering it`s really just grass waste. Either way, this really kinda creeps me out...I`ll never eat crayons again.
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    socca_dude Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 1:56 pm
    I like saying this to every vegan I come across with "My food poops in your food. Enjoy your Salad!"
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    Smokeylove11 Female 13-17
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    October 21, 2010 at 2:03 pm
    I didn`t want to know this. :x
  72. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    October 21, 2010 at 2:06 pm
    very environmentally sound!
    No Waste!

    I`m happy.
  73. Profile photo of idiotfilter
    idiotfilter Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 2:12 pm
    madluk....definition of veganism:

    Vegan

    People who refrain from eating any animal products (or anything derived from animal products) or using animal products such as leather, silk, or wool. It is a more strict form of vegetarianism. People who are vegan are often passionate about their veganism.

    maybe you should stop lying to everyone and just become a vegetarian because you are not a vegan...
  74. Profile photo of Kaagan
    Kaagan Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 2:12 pm
    is that "gloss" or "glass" under bones.
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    slab-of-rage Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 2:15 pm
    I also like the arguement about the various little fuzzy creatures that live in fields which get killed by ploughs, threshers, combine harvesters etc which help to make your nommy vegan food.
  76. Profile photo of pancake414
    pancake414 Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 2:22 pm
    I only eat animals that are vegetarians!!
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    CmdrBittles Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 2:23 pm
    @tstyblucryns: Actually the point of being a vegan is to not use any products made from or by exploting animals in any way. If the cows were free roaming cows and just happened to poop in the fields you harvest from, then that`s ok. However, manure is not coming from wild cows. It comes from animals being raised for dairy or meat. Therefore, not vegan. :)
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    inversegrav Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 2:25 pm
    now i`m hungry for a porterhouse steak. and dont bother with the A1 just bring me the steak.
  79. Profile photo of Fatninja01
    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 2:26 pm
    Its scary, i didnt want to know some of this!
  80. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 2:30 pm
    You know what they say - if God didn`t want us to eat animals, why did he go and make them out of meat?
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    Ryan22158 Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 2:31 pm
    I`m with Inversegray. Where`s my steak?
  82. Profile photo of faustsshadow
    faustsshadow Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 2:52 pm
    A lot of people have a disconnect between the animals they see and the food on their plate. That`s why I trained myself to look at cows and desire to eat them. Now when I see a cow I think, "delicious."
  83. Profile photo of littlepete50
    littlepete50 Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 2:53 pm
    har har, your world is destroyed.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 2:54 pm
    This made me hungry
  85. Profile photo of IchBinErica
    IchBinErica Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 3:15 pm
    You know what they say - if God didn`t want us to eat animals, why did he go and make them out of meat?

    Well then by that logic, humans have every right to be on our plate too. ;)
    (I`m not even a vegetarian either)
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    Micktrex Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 3:21 pm
    I`m pretty sure if I was hungry enough I could watch a cow be killed, processed and cooked and I`d still eat it. Better that than what passes for protein for vegans.
  87. Profile photo of D3rAnG3d
    D3rAnG3d Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 3:21 pm
    Meat is murder! Delicious, delicious murder >:D
  88. Profile photo of blckhawk1234
    blckhawk1234 Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 3:32 pm
    Vegetarian here, it`s the attempt that counts.
  89. Profile photo of MrYouKnow
    MrYouKnow Male 13-17
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    October 21, 2010 at 3:41 pm
    Instrument strings are made of internal cow organs >_>
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    whyme73 Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 3:45 pm
    Mmmmm refined sugar bone.
  91. Profile photo of IRockYeah
    IRockYeah Male 40-49
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    October 21, 2010 at 3:48 pm
    No such thing as vegan?
    What about those that dont use any of those products?

    BTW what the fu*k are imitation eggs?
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    October 21, 2010 at 3:53 pm
    Vegetarians are bad enough, vegans are just plain nuts.
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    Boadicea Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 3:53 pm
    Veganism is about making your best effort while avoiding the OBVIOUS things (so making your best effort to only wear leather every couple of days does not count). We`re all aware we`re never going to be 100%. Duh.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    October 21, 2010 at 4:06 pm
    If God didn`t want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat? - H. Simpson

    Hooray! Vegans make me want to slap some sense into them!
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    yusterdai Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 4:13 pm
    Hey its good to know none of that sh^t goes to waste
  96. Profile photo of Siyanor
    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 4:16 pm
    Imitation eggs are eggs that taste horrible and come in milk cartons.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    October 21, 2010 at 4:27 pm
    I`m pretty sure if I was hungry enough I could watch a cow be killed, processed and cooked and I`d still eat it. Better that than what passes for protein for vegans.

    Vegan protein is OK as long as you know enough to use different sources to get all the essential amino acids in the right proportions. I`ve had some tasty vegan meals and you can live fine on it if you know what you`re doing with amino acids and take lab-made B12 supplements (or eat dung from some animals). There are no vegetable sources of B12 usable by humans, but the lab-made stuff is a waste product of bacteria so it`s vegan enough.

    Cows have underpinned human civilisation pretty much since it began. There wouldn`t have been any farming without cows.
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    korahn Male 30-39
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    October 21, 2010 at 4:36 pm
    The cow truly is a magical animal. No wonder Hindus love them!
  99. Profile photo of sidney_l0u
    sidney_l0u Female 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 4:41 pm
    how come not a single person is a least bit skeptical about this?
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    Sidragasum Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2010 at 4:44 pm
    Humans were built to consume both meat and plant matter. Animals don`t have a conscious mind, they live off of instinct. drating vegan morons don`t get this.

    Take a cow form the field it will still try and graze, take a lion cub from its mother it will still try and kill everything if it gets hungry.

    Same poo, just natural order.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
    2402 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 4:49 pm
    Hahahah I can hear the vegans screaming from the hippie health food stores once they see this. I`m gonna post this pic up on it`s bulletin board tomorrow.
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    VikingGuy Male 18-29
    2160 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 4:51 pm
    meh, veganism is mostly about being whiny and attempting to be different to leave some form of mark or impact on the universe so your existance seemed meaningful
    shame its all for nought in the end.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
    2402 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 4:52 pm
    @Sidragasum
    Yeah they have a conscious mind. You should work with wildlife for a couple of years. You will find out that they have all some degree of intelligence capable of learning and association along with emotions.
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    RubixCuban Male 18-29
    99 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 4:58 pm
    this is impossible.. only tribes and chit would of used every part of the cow like that.. anyways this is retarted
  105. Profile photo of belunan
    belunan Male 30-39
    1507 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 5:02 pm
    Blood... in pasta? WTF?
  106. Profile photo of frajola
    frajola Female 18-29
    99 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 5:12 pm
    I`m pretty sure proper vegans look this stuff up
  107. Profile photo of frajola
    frajola Female 18-29
    99 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 5:17 pm
    Sidragasum, you never had a dog? Or cat? Hamster?

    I work with wild mice and they totally have a conscious mice.
  108. Profile photo of TadnJess
    TadnJess Male 30-39
    147 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 5:28 pm
    I`m pretty sure crayons are made from soy now, but the dyes are probably animal base.
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    FUFtheKlown Male 18-29
    137 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 5:30 pm
    @frajola we do. It sucks to have to avoid a lot of stuff but it`s worth it when your not brushing your teeth with cow fat
  110. Profile photo of Justbeodd
    Justbeodd Female 13-17
    250 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 5:41 pm
    :(
  111. Profile photo of T-Marley
    T-Marley Male 70 & Over
    602 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 5:47 pm
    It seems to me like most vegans I know could easily be confused for Evangelists, pushing their philosophy down my throat. "Don`t you know what they do to those chickens?"

    "Yep, kill them, and fry them into tasty nuggets."

  112. Profile photo of Dievs
    Dievs Male 18-29
    24 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 5:47 pm
    If really most animals are conscious, feel pain, understand their fate that may be to feed and die... Well, in that case I may change my values and not consider consciousness anymore as a distinguishing criteria/limit, as I consider eating tasty animals just fine in any case.

    But I wouldn`t like to eat humans, and chimps as well, so the criteria is based on similarity most likely.

    As for most other issues, local and similar stuff trumps distant and different. Me > family > friends > similar-minded-people > similar people > other people > animals similar to people > animals that look friendly and fluffy > mammals > non-mammals > everything else.
  113. Profile photo of andynaylor
    andynaylor Male 18-29
    239 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 6:06 pm
    Animals are clearly have some level of intelligence and consciousness... Dogs train the owners by means of begging for treats and wanting walks, cats go to the food cupboard when they want feeding, Cows in automated milking farms go to be milked when they choose... However in nature animals eat other animals regardless of consciousness, Wolves are omnivorous like humans but kill and eat other animals. The reason humans have teeth that overlap between top and bottom jaws is to slice meats, else we`d have teeth more like that of herbivorous animals I.E. large flat grinding molars and front teeth designed to crack open shells or strip leaves from plants. To deny the body meat is to deny the body important nutrients, proteins and enzymes. While you can get all the goodness you need as a strict vegan you need to supplement the diet with Vitamin and mineral pills. Any diet where supplements are needed to remain healthy goes against nature.
  114. Profile photo of HOBOMOE
    HOBOMOE Male 18-29
    515 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 6:16 pm
    I`m curious to know what instruments used cow organs as strings, their was that myth about cat guts used in violin building but that wasn`t really true.
  115. Profile photo of 1gr8slice
    1gr8slice Male 40-49
    364 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 6:34 pm
    My son is vegan - great for me since I never have to fight over the last burger or steak...
    Fine if you want to do it, but why is everyone else (to most vegans) intrinsically "less than" if they choose to do what is natural??? That part is weird to me.
  116. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12151 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 7:18 pm
    "I`m curious to know what instruments used cow organs as strings, their was that myth about cat guts used in violin building but that wasn`t really true."

    Not "used" as in past tense, very much used today in all sorts of instruments. . And yeah, it`s all called catgut, even though it`s not from cats (maybe a contraction of "cattle-gut", google tells me).
  117. Profile photo of Buck176
    Buck176 Male 30-39
    379 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 7:27 pm
    @HOBOMOE
    Catgut strings are made from cow or sheep intestine. Violin and Viola strings were sheep, and Cello and Bass strings were made from cow.Also animal fat is used in a lot of the glues and lacquers used in making the instrument.
  118. Profile photo of xxEmo_kid_xx
    xxEmo_kid_xx Female 18-29
    206 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 7:28 pm
    Yes there are Such things as a vegan, I know this for a fact.
  119. Profile photo of nissanxterra
    nissanxterra Male 18-29
    425 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 7:45 pm
    If You`re a vegan then you are officially retarded.
  120. Profile photo of lerie
    lerie Female 18-29
    1265 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 7:46 pm
    Cows are some of the coolest animals in the planet.
  121. Profile photo of xtreme_dude
    xtreme_dude Male 18-29
    1372 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 7:56 pm
    Damn cows are amazing.
  122. Profile photo of J_Action
    J_Action Male 18-29
    211 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 8:07 pm
    hey, hey now, don`t mess with vegans. they will f*ck you up, because i know i get pissy when i haven`t had a proper meal
  123. Profile photo of SealTears
    SealTears Female 13-17
    12 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 8:08 pm
    It`s amazing how many things we can get out of a cow, other than meat!
  124. Profile photo of PeRsOnAaNiMa
    PeRsOnAaNiMa Male 18-29
    192 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 8:16 pm
    Yes...hahaha
  125. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 8:16 pm
    Nucleartoast: And eating meat and potatoes could cut your risk of lung cancer in half. source

    So we`re just choosing cancer types now, colon or lung.
  126. Profile photo of PeRsOnAaNiMa
    PeRsOnAaNiMa Male 18-29
    192 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 8:17 pm
    Meat is murder...tasty murder
  127. Profile photo of niceguy191
    niceguy191 Male 18-29
    169 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 8:17 pm
    What? No leather? I was under the impression that`s what a lot of the skin was used for....
  128. Profile photo of OrdinaryGuy
    OrdinaryGuy Male 18-29
    5 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 8:26 pm
    @Nucleartoast

    You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. You can`t get diseases from meat unless you`re an idiot and buy low-quality meat or don`t cook it. Sure, you can get unlucky with a specific batch of meat that had salmonella or something, but the same is true of vegetables.

    Also, you don`t mention any of the BENEFITS of meat, such as having all the necessary proteins and amino acids needed for healthy living in a single source.

    Plus, meat is delicious and has always been an essential part of human diets. We`re omnivores. There`s no good reason to not eat meat.
  129. Profile photo of kittehdee29
    kittehdee29 Female 18-29
    803 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 8:27 pm
    Nucleartoast, feel free to pick and choose your facts. Yes, too much of anything is a bad thing, including meat. The fact of the matter is that not everything causes cancer. What has been said in the past (not in this post) is that EVERYTHING can be somewhat healthy, as long as you limit your intake. I personally don`t particularly like the taste of red meat, but it looks udderly (see what I did there?) delicious. A little iron in your diet can really help your icy demeanor.
  130. Profile photo of kittehdee29
    kittehdee29 Female 18-29
    803 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 8:31 pm
    Also, abstaining from sex can slash your chances of STDs or pregnancy by 100%! You don`t see the majority of the world abstaining from sex because they don`t want to get pregnant or get an STD, do you? Again, it`s called moderation and precaution. If you cook your meat properly and you`re aware of possible disease outbreaks (eg, Mad Cow) your chances of getting cancer from eating meat are almost zilch.
  131. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 8:42 pm
    To deny the body meat is to deny the body important nutrients, proteins and enzymes. While you can get all the goodness you need as a strict vegan you need to supplement the diet with Vitamin and mineral pills.

    If you`re knowledgable and diligent, you only need to supplement with B12. You can get everything else from vegetable sources. Not easily, but with modern civilisation you can get enough of a variety of plants to make it work.

    Any diet where supplements are needed to remain healthy goes against nature.

    Which tree did your computer grow on?

    Humans have been going against nature since the beginning. Homo species before humans also went against nature. It`s what we do. It comes from being an intelligent species with an aptitude for tool use.
  132. Profile photo of bryantm3
    bryantm3 Male 18-29
    179 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 8:52 pm
    look for the OU pareve symbol. no animal products (minus egg).
  133. Profile photo of flingspoo
    flingspoo Female 18-29
    999 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 8:55 pm
    When this car hits 88 miles per hour, you`re gonna see some serious shyt.
  134. Profile photo of Dfaulted
    Dfaulted Male 13-17
    1920 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 9:15 pm
    Meh, I don`t eat plastic or drywall
  135. Profile photo of bombaytech
    bombaytech Male 18-29
    151 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 9:19 pm
    It`s called making a concerted and reasonable effort. Oh noes, chart destroyed!
  136. Profile photo of PTPete
    PTPete Female 30-39
    1236 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 9:29 pm
    Cow blood in pasta? Who made this f`ing chart?
  137. Profile photo of JohnnyBoy50
    JohnnyBoy50 Male 13-17
    88 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 9:38 pm
    One animal, so many possibilities.
  138. Profile photo of SEpth
    SEpth Female 18-29
    47 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 9:39 pm
    bahahaha, flingspoo= answer win.
  139. Profile photo of bravo01
    bravo01 Male 18-29
    7 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 10:23 pm
    take that, vegans.... =)
  140. Profile photo of craftymiser
    craftymiser Male 30-39
    96 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 10:31 pm
    They missed one! They forgot to note that the cowpies can be covered in laquer and be made into clocks. My wife has a friend that creates that kind of "merchandise".
  141. Profile photo of craftymiser
    craftymiser Male 30-39
    96 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 10:38 pm
    I had a vegetarian friend tell me that I shouldn`t eat anything I wouldn`t kill or haven`t killed myself. Growing up around farms sure opens that door wide open. Cows, pigs, fish, chickens, ducks, turkeys, deer, elk, and buffalo are all on the list at least...I think you get my point.
  142. Profile photo of kummi90
    kummi90 Male 18-29
    541 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 11:14 pm
    Vegan Nightmare
  143. Profile photo of Intaresting
    Intaresting Male 18-29
    812 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 11:26 pm
    Take that, you hypocritical bastards!
  144. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 11:32 pm
    I had a vegetarian friend tell me that I shouldn`t eat anything I wouldn`t kill or haven`t killed myself.

    Whenever anyone tries that ridiculous line on me, I always respond by telling them not to use any technology they couldn`t build themselves.
  145. Profile photo of phoneybone
    phoneybone Male 18-29
    1744 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 11:41 pm
    Man is omnivorous. Meaning: if it is or once was living, then it has or soon will be in our stomachs.
  146. Profile photo of aribowman
    aribowman Male 13-17
    64 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 11:47 pm
    A ton of this has to be outdated. They don`t use animal organs in instrument strings anymore.
  147. Profile photo of Batmanners
    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4007 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 11:58 pm
    "Man is omnivorous. Meaning: if it is or once was living, then it has or soon will be in our stomachs."

    No. Omnivorous means we aren`t dedicated to simply meat or plants; we delve into both as part of a healthy balanced diet.

    Our bodies are designed to require the nutrients we receive from this diet. While plants keep you thin, meat keeps you strong. (There are thousand other things a good balanced diet does, but I am no nutritionist)
  148. Profile photo of Batmanners
    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4007 posts
    October 21, 2010 at 11:59 pm
    "I had a vegetarian friend tell me that I shouldn`t eat anything I wouldn`t kill or haven`t killed myself."

    I wouldn`t eat someone I kill....that`s wrong.
  149. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 12:06 am
    Man is omnivorous. Meaning: if it is or once was living, then it has or soon will be in our stomachs.
    Not true. Plenty of plants are poisonous to humans. Omnivorous simply means we eat both meat and plants, not ALL meat and plants.
  150. Profile photo of blipflip
    blipflip Male 13-17
    87 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 12:47 am
    Cattle blood in pasta? are you sure?
  151. Profile photo of NexusLetum
    NexusLetum Female 18-29
    136 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 1:11 am
    You know, I never understood why vegans were so adamant about getting farther away from nature by really only using factory made, artificial products since we don`t make a lot of products with actual, organically grown plants that aren`t consumable.
  152. Profile photo of RVIsh
    RVIsh Male 18-29
    251 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 1:26 am
    @almightybob1

    No, I`m pretty sure it`s still ANY meat and plants. Natural selection just takes care of the rest.
  153. Profile photo of r3tr0r0ck3r
    r3tr0r0ck3r Male 18-29
    187 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 2:15 am
    I like how we get as much out of each cow as possible, more than just the obvious meat and milk; I wouldn`t want them to be wasteful.
  154. Profile photo of TKD_Master
    TKD_Master Male 18-29
    4794 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 2:19 am
    "Not true. Plenty of plants are poisonous to humans. Omnivorous simply means we eat both meat and plants, not ALL meat and plants. "

    I guarantee you that in the history of BILLIONS of humans, we have eaten every KNOWN plant/animal at least once. We will also eat any new ones we find. In regards to the poisonous plants, ever heard of people poisoning people? Where do they get that poison? From whatever is available.
  155. Profile photo of bored-am-I
    bored-am-I Male 30-39
    785 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 3:22 am
    The fact that they make plastic of cows is not big news - I mean we have all seen plastic cows...
  156. Profile photo of deanoe
    deanoe Male 18-29
    10 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 3:42 am
    And if there`s anything left McDonalds is happy to make it tasty :)
    Devour everything!
  157. Profile photo of Roofuskhan
    Roofuskhan Male 18-29
    32 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 4:56 am
    Another pic posted by fancylad and more spam. IAB merged 4Chan?
  158. Profile photo of Calummac
    Calummac Male 13-17
    341 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 5:05 am
    At least we`re using everything
  159. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 5:05 am
    I guarantee you that in the history of BILLIONS of humans, we have eaten every KNOWN plant/animal at least once. We will also eat any new ones we find. In regards to the poisonous plants, ever heard of people poisoning people? Where do they get that poison? From whatever is available.
    Maybe so, but that is not what omnivorous means. He was offering an incorrect definition.
  160. Profile photo of lordpoee
    lordpoee Male 30-39
    101 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 5:07 am
    This chart leaves out the best part of the cow! MEAT!!! BRB guys, going to go to my barn and slaughter a cow, made me hungry.
  161. Profile photo of Vanadil
    Vanadil Male 18-29
    151 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 5:11 am
    I think this is brilliant. Means none goes to waste and the animal died for a good reason.
  162. Profile photo of a1butcher
    a1butcher Male 40-49
    4812 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 8:07 am
    This type of flame war (Meat and vegans) is sooo much more interesting than religious ones.

    A1butcher is a pleased Butcher
  163. Profile photo of BrimstoneOne
    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
    2229 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 8:24 am
    Also cows make `perfect` incubators for cloning "material". Don`t assume that I`m referring to humans, or its reproductive capacity.
  164. Profile photo of meepmaker
    meepmaker Male 30-39
    6694 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 8:29 am
    I like the New York Strip my self.
  165. Profile photo of AntPharm
    AntPharm Male 18-29
    950 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 9:43 am
    Why is cow blood in my cake mix?
  166. Profile photo of Jowsh
    Jowsh Male 18-29
    1237 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 10:58 am
    And you can enjoy the rectum thats in your McDonald`s too!

    (sp. plural - recti? o.o)
  167. Profile photo of Shadowkin
    Shadowkin Male 40-49
    188 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 12:24 pm
    "And you can enjoy the rectum thats in your McDonald`s too!

    (sp. plural - recti? o.o)"

    Soo.. when your order that does it come in pieces or each.. I mean do you say I want a 10 piece rectum meal or 10 recti deal or can you say reeces pieces?
  168. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 4:43 pm
    While plants keep you thin, meat keeps you strong. (There are thousand other things a good balanced diet does, but I am no nutritionist)

    You certainly aren`t, because you`re wrong. You can have a completely vegan diet and be massively strong. Biceps the size of thighs, that sort of thing. You need to be even more careful about your diet than people like that usually are, but it can be done. As long as you take B12 made in a lab/factory (because you can`t get that from plants), you can get everything you need from plants (if you live in a society wealthy enough to have a wide variety of plant food for sale).
  169. Profile photo of LionHeart-72
    LionHeart-72 Male 18-29
    521 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 7:37 pm
    @Shadowkin

    "...reeces pieces?"

    HA! Awesome :-)
  170. Profile photo of howlingwolf
    howlingwolf Male 18-29
    1351 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 10:00 pm
    Great, so now every 4th of July when I see fireworks I`m going to think a cow exploding in midair (yeah it`s just the fat but still).
  171. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10443 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 10:15 pm
    You certainly aren`t, because you`re wrong. You can have a completely vegan diet and be massively strong. Biceps the size of thighs, that sort of thing. You need to be even more careful about your diet than people like that usually are, but it can be done.

    Sure, I suppose that`s *technically* possible, but you`d have to be the freaking jesus of veganism. Most vegans are thin, scrawny and hilarious.
  172. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 10:38 pm
    Sure, I suppose that`s *technically* possible, but you`d have to be the freaking jesus of veganism. Most vegans are thin, scrawny and hilarious.

    People who train to maximise strength or muscular appearance are usually very careful about their diet anyway and know exactly what they need and what`s in the stuff they eat and drink. So they`ve got the right habits for a vegan diet anyway.

    There are bodybuilders who eat only raw plant material (with a little added B12). You can take it that far.

    Vegans who are thin and scrawny are doing it wrong. I`d bet they`re deficient in B12 and probably in some essential amino acids. You don`t need much B12, but you need it for all sorts of things and not having enough will gradually mess you up in all sorts of ways.
  173. Profile photo of rakoonhat
    rakoonhat Female 30-39
    654 posts
    October 22, 2010 at 11:39 pm
    the vitamins that the vegans and vegetarians take..b12..all that fun, those have meat product in them. its less than 5%, which is the limit on mandatory labeling. if its 4.9999% they dont have to say its there..but it is, so they are tricked into eating meat..thus..no vege
  174. Profile photo of SwayzeCrazy4
    SwayzeCrazy4 Male 13-17
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    October 23, 2010 at 1:19 am
    I love how you could say to your friend in real life "Candy is made from cow skin." And he`d tell you to shove it, but, if you put it in the from of an info graph, people will believe it right right away.
  175. Profile photo of xxPinkxx
    xxPinkxx Female 18-29
    3830 posts
    October 23, 2010 at 5:47 am
    ok im vegetarian. i do eat milk, etc. Im not hardcore about it, but some people are . eg vegans wont eat bread if made with a little bit of milk in it.
    some of this isnt true. the vitamins that vegetarians & vegans take do not have animal products in them, although regular vitamins do . ( daily vitamins, prenatal vitamins, etc).
    most of this isnt food- you dont eat plasic, etc. a lot of vegans dont eat geletin, etc.
    you cant get too picky about it, overanalizing is just douchey.let the vegans live their lifestyle- its healthier, and they arent hurting anyone.
  176. Profile photo of PacoP42
    PacoP42 Male 13-17
    1064 posts
    October 23, 2010 at 8:49 am
    "let the vegans live their lifestyle- its healthier"

    LOLOLOLOL
  177. Profile photo of Violet_Moon
    Violet_Moon Female 18-29
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    October 23, 2010 at 9:52 am
    This is actually really cool to have this sort of thing simplified on a single image like this, but if you`re claiming to be vegan you`ll most likely read up on all of this stuff. With all of the ingredients in food and other products that most people have trouble even pronouncing you`re going to want to figure out what those things actually are once you decide to become a full vegan. It`s also good to research the brand of the specific product you want to use and you can even go as far as mailing the company if you can`t find the information online.
    Also, people become vegan for a variety of reasons ranging from health to moral views or environmental causes. For some people they may just want to adhere to a vegan diet, but they may not care to live a full vegan lifestyle.
    To say "you`re probably not" would only be speaking to the lazy people who don`t bother to do their research and if you truly cared to be a vegan you would do so..
  178. Profile photo of last_ninja
    last_ninja Male 18-29
    610 posts
    October 23, 2010 at 10:30 am
    i don`t understand the milk and eggs thing. not milking cows actually hurts them, so why is it bad? and the unfertilized eggs are just going to be thrown away, and aren`t vegans also against waste?
  179. Profile photo of ROK9
    ROK9 Male 18-29
    1834 posts
    October 23, 2010 at 10:48 am
    MEAT!MEAT!MEAT!
  180. Profile photo of clancy54
    clancy54 Male 18-29
    83 posts
    October 23, 2010 at 2:38 pm
    Actually...if you don`t milk cows they become infected with bacteria which is very uncomfortable for them.
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    Hat-Trick Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2010 at 3:52 pm
    I support PETA

    People
    Eating
    Tasty
    Animals
  182. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    October 23, 2010 at 6:15 pm
    the vitamins that the vegans and vegetarians take..b12..all that fun, those have meat product in them. its less than 5%, which is the limit on mandatory labeling. if its 4.9999% they dont have to say its there..but it is, so they are tricked into eating meat..thus..no vege

    B12 is a waste product of bacteria. You could, if you were being really picky, say that makes it an animal product and thus not vegan, but I doubt if even a vegan would go that far.

    Vegans and vegetarians don`t have to take any other vitamin supplements if they`re careful enough with their diet. All other vitamins can be got from various plants. If you know which plants in what quantities and plan your diet accordingly, you can get enough of all of them on a vegan diet.

    You can get vegan vitamin supplements, wholly sourced from plants only (including fillers).
  183. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    October 23, 2010 at 6:29 pm
    "let the vegans live their lifestyle- its healthier"

    LOLOLOLOL

    It can be, if the following things are true:

    i) You live in an area where a wide variety of plant food is available.

    ii) You spend the time needed to learn what nutrients you need, what plants have them and in what quantities, and you learn from a proper source. There`s some total BS online from some over-zealous vegan advocates.

    iii) You pay careful attention to your diet, using (i) and (ii).

    iv) You can afford to do so.

    v) You supplement with adequate levels of B12. You WILL have to supplement or eat animal dung (and the right kind of animal dung, too). There are NO plant sources of B12 that humans can use. B12 deficiency will gradually ruin you. It`s slow, nasty and in some cases irreversible.

    Having said that, if you`re equally careful with an omnivorous diet that would be a lot healthier too.
  184. Profile photo of adia1228
    adia1228 Female 30-39
    83 posts
    October 23, 2010 at 8:24 pm
    Well, at least we use all of the cow...=(
  185. Profile photo of TIMESWORDSMN
    TIMESWORDSMN Male 13-17
    304 posts
    October 25, 2010 at 2:19 pm
    Cows, Most useful animal ever?
  186. Profile photo of 08031993
    08031993 Female 13-17
    36 posts
    October 27, 2010 at 11:03 am
    I wish I was vegetarian.
  187. Profile photo of Zymotical
    Zymotical Male 18-29
    198 posts
    July 7, 2011 at 11:01 pm
    And the reason that listed products use waste materials from slaughterhouse cattle?

    Let us assume that 60% of the cow is meat, (its actually much less) that leaves another 40% of the cow not suitable for human consumption that we have to do something with. Total U.S. beef production in 2007 was 26.4 billion pounds of beef. Using these numbers we are left with 10.56 BILLION POUNDS of waste, with a B. Companies either have to pay for waste products to be disposed of or find some willing to buy it. Industries that want to make money just don`t let 10.56 billion pounds of goods go to waste.

    Remove industrial meat farming from the picture and watch those products start using a slightly harder to obtain and therefore pricier ingredient or have to go through a more complicated process to be made.

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