Dad Confronts Abortion Protesters

Submitted by: fancylad 6 years ago in

A couple had to abort 16-week-old dying baby and were accosted by these zealots.
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Male 5,413
Well said
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Male 552
He just smashed them Will Smith style. Not a single fouled word. Props on that alone.
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Female 1,101
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Female 85
God dammit, NotTHATbored. If i had wanted spam, i`d have gone and gotten a can.
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Female 250
"but to record it, what was he trying to prove?"

Probably a good way to prove he was well within his rights should this be bought to police attention or whatever. Not unheard of of protesters to make false claims when someone confronts them in a non violent manner, atleast not here anyway.
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Female 1,101
Also, to clarify, I meant that no one cares about their beliefs. I did not mean that no one cares if they act like (explative) holes. I thought that was pretty obvious but I guess not...
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Female 1,101
Or perhaps you just have a lower class job? Obviously you didn`t go to college...
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Female 1,101
An old jobless right wing zealot?
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Female 1,101
Troll. Obviously you are incapable of having an intelligent conversation or rationally defending your view point so you have to resort to name calling. Stupid b*tch. Are you are jobless right wing zealot? Is that is why you are so huffed up? XD
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Male 309
Obviously this guy cared enough to fake being all mad about it. And you`re pretty damned huffed up yourself for someone who "doesn`t care about jobless right-wing zealots", stupid b*tch.
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Female 1,101
*News flash* No one cares about jobless right wing zealots who spend their days standing on the street corner. Write a letter to Congress. No one cares.

P.S. People have the right to record you in a public place. Just like the zealots have the right to protest. If you don`t want to be seen doing something in public don`t do it. Douche.
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Male 309
Oh please. What an a-hole. They probably didn`t even say anything to him. News flash! Nobody cares about your rotten kid d***head. People have a right to protest.

Worst day of his life? Pu-lease! Doesn`t sound too broken up about it to me. What a douche.
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Male 1,627
who goes to scream at someone with a video camera?
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Male 68
I think the "point` this guy was trying to make was well made, That anti - abortion protesters are hypocritical idiots.

I don`t necessarily agree that mothers who are told theres a chance that their child may have a disability should just quickly choose to abort, but there are a whole host of reasons why women should be allowed to choose to abort.

If a young girl was raped, would really expect her to carry through a pregnancy that would remind her day after day for nine months what happened to her, and then say `well its okay because you can give it up for adoption"

I think what these people do is despicable and abusive to women already going through one of the hardest times of their lives.

I also think if these women were told they could give birth to a still birth child, or chose to abort, they would think twice about their actions on this video
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Female 1,101
"He made them feel bad enough by just confronting him (in this particular case I can`t honestly blame him) but to record it, what was he trying to prove?"

He made them feel bad enough?! Really?! Seriously?! I believe he was trying to prove a point by recording them, like maybe that they shouldn`t be doing if they are ashamed to be caught on tape doing it.

If they don`t like the laws they should go through the system just like everyone else. Now if I stood out front of an oil company all day everyday and yelled at people I am pretty sure I would eventually be issued a restraining order for harrassment!
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Male 2,737
should have pushed them into traffic.
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Female 584
@ Prejudiced:
That`s another situation entirely. If she had miscarried and that far along then yeah I agree that the best (and only) option is to have the child removed from the womb. What I was getting were the women who don`t give their babies a fighting chance and just off them as soon as the doctor says there`s a complication. I feel for that poor woman and her husband but why did have to record the confrontation with the protesters? He made them feel bad enough by just confronting him (in this particular case I can`t honestly blame him) but to record it, what was he trying to prove? Both parties were wrong but I really do think that there should be more ways to prevent abortions from happening(unnecessarily) Like better sex education classes in high school, and more counseling for those who are considering abortion for other than medical reasons.
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Male 468
@Prejudiced

...it will guarantee the kid will have a chance.
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Female 250
Crakr- Adoption is not the answer, nor is foster homes. There are already more kids that can be fostered/adopted needing homes. To reduce abortions would increase this problem. Seriously, saying "You can put it up for adoption" does not guarantee the kid a home or even a place to live.
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Female 250
Satkela

Did you even watch this?

The baby was already dead. It died in the womb. To leave it there would have caused either a stillbirth or infection and complications that could have KILLED THE WOMAN. Because a dead rotting foetus was inside her. Re think this poo.
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Female 1,101
Also. Why do these people feel the need to confront people one on one against their will? If you don`t like the law, than lobby to change it (they won`t). Until then TO BAD.
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Female 1,101
@CrackrJak are you refering to modern day abortions? Where are you getting this information about women becoming sterile from? Sounds like propaganda to me.

"The size or type of camera doesn`t change the fact that he decided to get it out and use it."

So what if he did tape them? They are in a public place, not to mention they engaged him first. Maybe he wants to show other people what a-holes anti-abortion protestors are? If they harass people all day but they don`t want to be video taped to bad!

I also love how everyone keeps saying that she`s the 1 out of 10 scenario. How do you know that? Many women have at least one miscarage or complication during their life time. Should they have to be harrassed by zealots like these? Of course not.

I think the abortion clinics need a private parking garage to keep extremists like these away from normal people.
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Male 37
This is so so so wrong.... why are they out of the kitchen.
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Female 584
People are loosing their faith point blank. I myself had I been in that particular situation would have still had the baby and prayed and had faith that my child would be healthy when born genetic disorder or no because when a person is born there is a chance of sickness or death just living life. The child could have made it to birth but died at 3 years old from falling out of a tree. Life is a gamble and I believe every child deserves a chance to at least make it to the world. As for the father I understand his frustrations at the protesters insensitivity but how where they supposed to know? 9 times out of 10 its Suzy Q that forgot her BC and got knocked up and she can`t handle the "consequences" of her actions. I think there should be more counselors for women considering abortion and the adoption process could be a little easier. But of course people will just say I`m an ignorant Jesus freak who is insensitive to women even though I`m a woman myself.
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Male 602
Way to go husband!
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Female 160
You go, man. Give them hell. They deserve it.
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Male 1,451
Oh look at the fun I`ve missed.

"Lets just stop even clicking on these blatantly divisive posts."

Be the first, you`ll stop caring if others click them.
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Male 1,451
I wish I was a woman just so I could have an abortion...
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Male 114
Bytches please go die.
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Male 189
Wizard77 takes the internet way to seriously.
We aren`t here because we`re serious. I don`t believe anything I say on an internet comment will cause Madest, Crakrjack, 5cats, or DickenMcHunt to change their moral or ethical codes. Its just not realistic. I`m just trying to prove that I`m right on this topic, or almost right, or as close to right as one can be on such an ambiguous issue, just like everyone else.
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Male 30
The problem with abortion is there is a moral Grey area. Like the guy in the vid said, there are some really good reasons to have had to get an abortion. Not everyone directly goes to that choice. there arent mane people that go in and get an abortion lightly. It is physically and emotionally taxing. btw im not taking sides, and I like to keep it that way.
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Male 255
btw. what a nice picture of jesus. don`t you think?
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Female 4,039
Holding up protest signs and yelling at people is the biggest waste of time anybody can do about any issue that they are passionate about. In fact, it`s so passive, how passionate can you really be about whatever`s on your sign? Yeah, it`s anyone`s right to do so, but it is so pointless.
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Female 1,894
aww what a cute husband.. anyway i think this is in boston
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Male 582
You know what madest. F**k you twice A-Hole!

IAB just lost me forever.
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Male 582
"To damand this site avoid topics you don`t like ridiculous. Who do you think you are?"

I didn`t "demand" anything you mouthy jerk! And as for who I think I am? I think I`m a guy that posted a reasonable piece without attacking anyone and got picked on by a tin-god named madest.
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Female 72
Bravo to that dad for putting those ladies on notice. I believe if you do not like something then don`t do it, but do NOT foist your opinions and beliefs on others. Whatever choice a person makes it is theirs to deal with and only their business.
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Male 7,378
People don`t come here to solve anything. They come here to discuss, debate or simply vent. These posts are a draw to those interested in them.
If you don`t like the topic move along. To damand this site avoid topics you don`t like ridiculous. Who do you think you are?
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Male 582
Yes BBQ you think this, and I think that, and some other guy thinks something else. No one is going to change the mind of anyone on here. This sort of issue isn`t going to be nailed down or hammered out on some board with fainting goats and cosplay tits!

This is blatant and sour. It will never go anywhere but it has made people angry at each other for sure.

Its like the God VS Atheist posts. WE DO NOT NEED TO SHEEP INTO THIS CRAP! Its not about suppressing anything. Its about rising above it.

Oh well, I didn`t figure it would work but thought I would give it a shot. Maybe its what we have coming. If you are served turds for lunch and say "Boy oh boy, what a cook" its pretty easy to tell what will be on the menu for dinner.
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Male 467
@Wizard77

I see what you mean, although I think IAB has moved into flamewar-territory and is on its way out the other side again. Most retarded comments are ignored, and only those wishing to participate in a valid discussion will be replied to. We need to discuss things like this, not supress them.

To me it`s obvious that there should be free abortion everywhere. Simply because almost noone uses abortion as prevention. Teach contraception, not abstinence and we could probably cut down on abortions by 50-70%.
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Male 582
Ill just throw this out there...

Lets just stop even clicking on these blatantly divisive posts. I mean seriously, at one time most everyone got along ok on here and flame wars and arguments were not the norm. But more and more this intentionally rift causing BS is becoming the norm for the sake of clicks.

IABers, if we don`t belly-up to such stuff then they will have no choice but to go back to more of the fun and interesting posts. This crap is posed for no other reason than to make us hate each other and I for one will no longer fall for it.
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Male 1,299
There are scenarios where legal abortion is obvious. Then there are scenarios where a hard choice must be made and both options are equally weighty- there are people in place for legitimate reasons willing to help on either side and so the choice is made by the carrying individual- but, within a time frame, because keep in mind that abortion is only legal in the early to early-mid stages of development.
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Male 1,299
You like to talk about how some of the reasons for aborting are "lame." That`s stupid. Making a choice like that is inherently weighty. Also, unless a female knows that the male ejaculated inside her- the morning/week after pills are irrelevant. Another point, the misconception that abortions are performed predominately by younger and more promiscuous women holds little water with me; most of these women insist on condoms and/or are on birth control.

To me, child birth is the most extreme physical trial that humans naturally undergo- to ask someone to participate in that and all it`s effects, I think is equally as wrong as aborting, and therefore the conclusion is:

(above)
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Male 1,299
@CrackerJak
"With the availability of `morning after` and now `week after` contraception pills, and all the other methods of birth control available, And the large number of couples wanting to adopt, The lame excuses for having an abortion are disappearing."

There are only two reasons to abort: Complications from childbirth/development (i.e. this video,) and accidental conception. That`s it.

Obviously abortion as a result of complication should be allowed to happen, the debate largely stems from "accidental conception." People try to dissect it- they try to make micro agruments and counter-arguments. "It`s their fault." "What about rape victims?" "Well we can make an exception, but the rest are WHORES." "What about the discovery of potential fatal deformation?" "He could survive it!" "He could die a slow painful death from it."

The reality is: Both are legitimate reasons.
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Male 1,299
@Cracker Jack
"DickenMcHunt: I never doubted whether or not it was genuine, I criticized him for not being with his wife to comfort her."

To begin, I didn`t post the link for you- 5Cats requested it and also questioned the validity of the situation. Second, we`re talking about human emotion and reaction, which is extremely subjective and often unimaginable. Often times we cannot predict the behavior of any individual in nearly any situation. The questions are then: is it ideal? Is it understandable? is it acceptable? is it wrong?

His behavior was NOT ideal- I don`t think anyone can argue with that. However, it is understandable based on the stress of raising a child, your wife going through physical duress and being harassed. Because if these reason I find the behavior acceptable. Lastly, was it wrong? Based on this scenario? No. However, it certainly was not the IDEAL behavior for the scenario.
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Male 7,378
The problem with these people is they`re so retarded they don`t know who to protest. Do they think the abortion doctor will see their sign, wake up and say "Hey they`re right lets shut the clinic down". The fact is there is no one to protest. Abortion is legal in America as it is in most civilized nations. You hate abortion? Move to the Philippines they hate it there too.
Silly dimwits want the unborn to have constitutional protections that supercede the living. You have to question the anti-abortionists intelligence. They`re clearly uneducated dolts.
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Male 2,670
Angry Father 1, Dumbass Chicks a huge dripping puss-covered ZERO.

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Female 876
I abhor abortion clinic protesters. Almost all of them are just a little too crazy for me to deal with. And the people that murder abortion doctors? Wtf? Really? THAT is solving the problem.

He made a good point, too. Why aren`t they helping at-risk kids instead of screaming at them? Helping... Or... Screaming. Hm... I know what sounds more christian to me.

Feckin` crazies.
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Female 250
And by that I mean the woman would be correctly notified of the procedure, any pain, the time involved and any risks at any clinic not wanting to get there asses sued, just like any other procedure. Its planned parenthoods fault that this was not done and has nothing to do with the procedure itself really.
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Female 250
"You know what I would like to see posted ? Videos of the women that are lied to while inside a planned parenthood clinic. They are told it`s painless (not so), Quick (not so), Won`t harm their reproductive system (Abortion has left many women sterile), And that it`s entirely private (Until they get letters in the mail asking for donations, etc.)"

That is in no way a fault with the procedure itself and you are foolish to use it as such. That is malpractice on planned parenthood, just as it would be with any operation or procedure that was not informed correctly or administered correctly.

In a reputable and well managed clinic the procedure would encounter none of the above grievances. Once again, that is not a problem with abortion, it`s malpractice on planned parenthoods part.
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Female 250
Although not a great thing to do, he has a legitimate point. Have you seen how most of these protesters act as a woman enters the clinic yelling at her about `killing`?

Now imaging if you had been trying for a baby, and have to have it aborted due to it being dead or a threat to the life of the mother? Imagine how aweful she would feel when these women yelled at her/out to her?

I`m going to make an assumption that they are Christian. If so, to be so callous as to not even consider a woman`s situation and what she is feeling as she walks past there taunts is appalling considering there supposed beliefs of love. Even if non religious, it`s just as bad.

If you want to protest abortion, fine, but to do it in this manner is absolutely awful. Although I don`t agree with what the guy did, it really shows the negative impact these protesters have on the poor women facing possibly the worst thing in there life.
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Male 98
@CrakrJak It doesn`t matter if those women taped him or not. The whole point, I think, is that if you want to go out in public and hold up a sign that says anything, you need to be ready to defend your point. Those women knew what they were getting into when they showed up that day. And even though I agree with them, I think they handled themselves like little kids.
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Female 1,148
I think that child abuse would decrease if more people got abortions. Think about it. Children are abused because they`re unwanted, right? So if those people got abortions, there would be no child to abuse! :D
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Male 871
he probably videoed it to protect himself from any false claims they might make of assault.
Bear in mind that the man has also just lost a child too, none of you people that support these disgusting protestors seem to be taking that on board either.
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Male 397
My best friend is ordered to kill people every day. Fully developed people. And those that are in favour of these orders tend to be conservative, like pro-lifers.
Yet they put value to a life that is completely dependant on the mother?

Hell, everything dies eventually. I don`t give a drat whether someone aborts the pregnancy or send the kid off to get killed in war.

It`s the same thing, in essence.
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Male 17,512
madest: The size or type of camera doesn`t change the fact that he decided to get it out and use it, These women didn`t record him or his wife on camera, Did they ? They didn`t block their path to the clinic either, They were across the street expressing their opinion. And they calmly apologized, When he angrily confronted them.
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Male 7,378
[quote]He`s still a douche for taking a camera out to vent his anger and attempt to score points for his liberalism, While his wife needs him there for her.[/quote]
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There`s this invention maybe you heard of it.. They call it an iPhone. It`s got a 5 mega-pixel camera in it. In fact most newer phones have a decent camera built in.
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Male 17,512
NotTHATbored: You know what I would like to see posted ? Videos of the women that are lied to while inside a planned parenthood clinic. They are told it`s painless (not so), Quick (not so), Won`t harm their reproductive system (Abortion has left many women sterile), And that it`s entirely private (Until they get letters in the mail asking for donations, etc.)

Those are just a few examples of the lies told to women by abortion clinics, And that`s why many of the women they`ve lied to, Over the years, Have become anti-abortion protesters.
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Female 1,101
"Also these women did apologize, But that wasn`t good enough for him. Sorry, But I believe he`s still a douche if he can`t understand that these women are trying to save unborn lives."

So sorry is supposed to be good enough? He has every right to be mad, especially given the stressful circumstances. You calling him a douche is judgemental to say the least. It`s not like he did anything illegal either. He was well within his rights to say what he said.

You know what I would like to see posted on IAB? Clips from the documentary that I saw a couple of months ago where (useless jobless) women like these wait outside of abortion clinics, LIE to women, and lead them into the pro-life building strategically placed across the street under the guise that it is the abortion clinic. Or the (useless jobless) women that stand outside of abortion clinics promising that they will help with money to take care of the baby but never do. Now those people are douches.
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Male 17,512
davymid: If they didn`t have the support of China, Davy, I`m sure it would`ve already happened. The sole reason the that war wasn`t outright won was because of Chi-Com military support.

China will have to change, Like Russia did in the 90`s, Before the N.Korea problem will be resolved.
After that happens, I believe N. Korea will cave-in like East Germany did.
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Male 12,138
Thank you for that honest answer Crakrjak. Like I said, no traps on that point.

On your point to Yaezakura though, I can`t wait for the US invasion of North Korea. Since the US is the Liberator of the Oppressed and all that. I mean, they`re oppressed too, except that we actually KNOW Kim Jong-Il has WMD`s, he`s been waving them around like an engorged dick.

Any day now, I`m sure.
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Female 2
"Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are people you wouldn`t want to f*<k in the first place?" George Carlin
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Male 17,512
davymid: A life-sentence with no possibility of parole in solitary confinement the whole time, No TV, No Books, No outside contact, Nothing but the very basics to live and their own regrets. Can`t think of a worse punishment really, Can you ? I believe most in that situation would go mad and wish for the death penalty.

Perhaps that seems cruel, But depriving someone else and their family of the life they took is pretty cruel as well.
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Male 17,512
Yaezakura: [quote]I believe it was none of the US`s business to fight such a war. Especially considering it was against the wishes of practically every one of our allies.[/quote]

Actually most of our allies actually helped us, Bush was actually criticized at the time for waiting to long to build a `coalition of the willing` before invading Iraq.

[quote] "...we came as conquerors..."[/quote]

No, We came as liberators. We finished a job that many say should`ve been handled during the first gulf war. The Iraqi people vote for their own government now and those they elect lead Iraq. We don`t even have anymore `combat troops` there anymore. `Conquerors` don`t give up their conquests willingly. Please quit repeating terms you don`t understand and have been spoon fed, It makes you look stupid.
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Male 12,138
Crakr, let me understand your position entirely. Not laying traps here. Are you saying that you would only be in favour of the Death Penalty if it was televised, otherwise those prisoners should serve a life sentence in jail till they eventually die of natural causes?

Sorry to press the point, but this is important to me to understand your world-view.
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Male 17,512
davymid: The death penalty, As it stands, Is not a deterrent anymore. Unfortunately crackheads and gangbangers just aren`t afraid to die.

If the executions were made public, And by that I mean televised live, I believe the sight of them might serve to make the death penalty a deterrent again. Right now, It`s done behind closed doors, It`s invisible and thus makes it ethereal.

So to answer your question exactly, Yes I`m pro-death penalty if it would be televised. Otherwise, It`s pretty much just retribution that may only give some small satisfaction to the victims family.
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Female 385
[quote]I guess perhaps you believe the Iraqi people didn`t deserve to be free of his tyranny, How condescending of you.[/quote]
I believe it was none of the US`s business to fight such a war. Especially considering it was against the wishes of practically every one of our allies.

The US has trained and supplied revolutionary forces before. If the people of Iraq wanted their freedom, they could have fought for it themselves, with American assistance. Instead, we came as conquerors, on the whims of an incredibly stupid man out for nothing more than personal revenge.
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Male 12,138
Crakr, on-topic please. I`d appreciate an (honest) answer to my question. What`s your stance on the death penalty?
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Male 17,512
Yaezakura: [quote]the people who call themselves pro-life place no value on the lives of people killed in a war for no reason other than the fact they believe in a slightly different version of the same god.[/quote]

Freedom isn`t free, Your freedom here was bought at the cost of a lot of blood. I revere all veterans for the sacrifice they give to protect America. What`s wrong here is your belief that the sacrifice or military men and women give is a waste. The Iraq war had nothing to do with religion, It had to do with a maniacal dictator supporting terrorism and seeking the means to threaten his peaceful neighbors. I guess perhaps you believe the Iraqi people didn`t deserve to be free of his tyranny, How condescending of you.
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Male 12,138
vv Alright Crakr, I know. Let me amend my comment to suit your sensibilities.

"In my experience, people who are rabidly anti-abortion are usually pro-going to war (specifically the US invasion of Iraq in 2003, which lead to the Iraq War/Occupation of Iraq/Second Gulf War/Operation Iraqi Freedom), and are almost exclusively pro-death penalty.

Is that semantic wording better for you?

Now, I`ll ask a question if I may. I`m well aware of your position on abortion, and also of your position of the war in Iraq. I`m unaware of your stance on the death penalty, never heard you say anything about it. If I may be so bold as to openly ask, what`s your personal stance on that?
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Female 385
[quote]If you hadn`t heard the Iraq war is over, Obama declared victory and gave himself a big pat on the back for it, As if GW Bush had nothing to do with it`s resolution.[/quote]
Dubya had nothing to do with it`s resolution. All he did was start it, at the first sign of even flimsy intelligence, because Saddam once threatened his daddy. He went into office planning to attack Iraq, and wasn`t going to leave until he had found some excuse to do so.

And this is entirely besides the point of davy`s post. The point of his post is how "pro-life" is an inherently hypocritical title, as the people who call themselves pro-life place no value on the lives of people killed in a war for no reason other than the fact they believe in a slightly different version of the same god.
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Male 17,512
davymid: If you hadn`t heard the Iraq war is over, Obama declared victory and gave himself a big pat on the back for it, As if GW Bush had nothing to do with it`s resolution.
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Male 12,138
[quote]Anti-abortionists whose beliefs are truly rooted in a deep reverence for the value of life are OK in my book- which is to say they are as anti-war and anti-death penalty as they are anti-abortion[/quote]
I disagree entirely. In my experience, people who are rabidly anti-abortion are usually pro-war (specifically the Iraq War), and are almost exclusively pro-death penalty.

Doesn`t quite stack up for me, but that`s just my take on it.
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Male 17,512
Yaezakura: How do you know if these women are not sorry ?, Are you psychic ? I don`t think so.

And just how are these women "..prey(ing) on people who are already emotionally vulnerable." ? They aren`t asking for money, They are trying to save unborn lives.

"No one just wants to get an abortion."
Really ?, You couldn`t tell that by the large numbers of abortions performed each year. As I said, Most are performed as retro-active birth control.

"..adoption often isn`t realistic." Baloney, Most couples, That are desperate to have a baby, Will gladly pay the surrogates expenses, Just to have a child in their lives. The need is so great that many seek women from other countries, Pay for their airline ticket, Pay their rent, And everything.

Don`t tell me adoption isn`t realistic. The more appropriate word is `convenient` not `realistic`, And convenience is not an good excuse to kill a baby.
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Male 12,138
[quote]That`s one of the biggest douche moves ever and I`m being honest when I say he needs anger management classes. If he can`t handle two women, Across the street, Protesting abortions, Then how will he be able to handle a new born crying every three hours or spitting up on his new shirt ?[/quote]
Dude, right at the start of the clip he states "Well I`ll tell you what. I just walked in with my wife, we`re trying to have another kid".

Sounds like he knows full well how to handle a new-born, since he`s had (at least) one before.
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Female 385
CrakJak: These women may have apologized, but they didn`t mean a word of it. They will be out there the next day, and the day after, because they have nothing better to do than prey on people who are already emotionally vulnerable. No one just wants to get an abortion. It is not a fun experience. People do it because they often have no other choice. Even adoption often isn`t realistic, as just carrying a baby to term can cost thousands in medical expenses that the person might not be able to afford. Unlike right-wing propaganda films, girls aren`t going out and getting pregnant just for the sheer joy of having an abortion later. It is ALWAYS a tough, painful decision.

And as has been said before, the man WAS NOT ABLE to be with his wife, since she was in an OPERATING ROOM. Only the patient and approved medical staff are allowed in. As for the camera, it was a way of showing these people that there would be a record of their hate and bile.
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Male 3,076
I don`t get why does mean persons won`t just shut up, there is nothing wrong with abortion better to never exist than knowing you were never wanted! and it`s not like it`s even human it`s just a pile of tissue...
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Male 17,512
sender02: His wife is maybe 1 or 2 out of a thousand, That need this done to save their life.
I`m not against a woman having one in that rare instance. But most all abortions are performed as retro-active birth control and that`s just wrong.

With the availability of `morning after` and now `week after` contraception pills, and all the other methods of birth control available, And the large number of couples wanting to adopt, The lame excuses for having an abortion are disappearing.

Also these women did apologize, But that wasn`t good enough for him. Sorry, But I believe he`s still a douche if he can`t understand that these women are trying to save unborn lives.
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Female 196
CrakrJak--Maybe his wife didn`t want him to be there. Or because a lot of these places don`t get a massive amount of financial support, they have small ORs (think average doctor`s office) and really only the staff can fit safely so probably other people aren`t allowed in. Plus, except for childbirth, it isn`t normal to let non-staff into a room with a patient who`s being operated on. There`s anesthesia and you can`t interact with the patient at all because of that so you would just be watching which seems unpleasant. And I know in some clinics you can only bring one person in the building with you. So while you`re in the waiting room or the recovery room, you have to pick one person to be with you if any. Maybe one of her parents or siblings or friends were there and she picked them, so he had to wait outside the building until she could go home.

It is sort of a grotesque procedure. But it can be the lesser of two evils.
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Male 3,631
Jesus still Loves you.
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Male 189
CrackrJack, you really don`t pay attention to details, do you. The guy is not allowed, by the docter performing the procedure, to be in the room. The procedure is not horrible, it was being done to avoid damage that the mother might undergo giving birth to a stillborn child, so, for the most part, lifesaving. finally, If you read his testimony from the link I gave, he originaly intended to ignore them until their harassment affected his wife, at which point he decided to confront them after he was asked to leave the room for the procedure. His wife even approved of his actions afterwards.

You are wrong in every way possible.
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Male 179
i think they`re both annoying, and that i wasted 2 minutes of my time. why don`t we come up with a solution instead of waging pointless arguments with people who have no power (or knowledge) to change anything?
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Female 547
Crakr: maybe because the procedure is surgical in nature; thus he couldn`t be in the room. Duh.
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Male 17,512
sender02: You`re telling me he could be beside his wife during childbirth but not during this procedure ? That is really intriguing, I wonder why ? Maybe it`s because the `procedure` is one of the most horrifying and disgusting things to do to another human being.

He`s still a douche for taking a camera out to vent his anger and attempt to score points for his liberalism, While his wife needs him there for her.
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Male 21
Shnard-dog you a a complete hypocrite. What was that last comment saying? Oh yeah " You clearly have nothing better to do than sit back and criticize anyone who doesn`t agree with you." I see alot more pro-abortion zealots on this website than anti-abortion zealots in the video. Everyone needs to look at both sides of the issue instead of being complete dicks.
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Male 189
CrakrJack, you did not know the details and have made yourself look like an idiot. He already has a kid. He says so in his blog which was supplied in an earlier comment, and at the begining of the video. Secondly, he was not being a douche by being out there. He was not allowed to be with his wife during the procedure, and so could not comfort her. He did not abandon her.

Here is the proof, with spaces so I can post it. I recommend everyone read this before making another stupid comment.

http: // www.daddyfiles.com / 2010 / 07 / 13 / abort-protesters /
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Female 25
Standing outside of somebody`s home or place of work, yelling about there private affairs and harassing people going by to join there cause. Is that not illegal in anyway? This guys right. What right do they have to be pissed if there doing exactly what he`s doing? Oh and CrakrJak. People aren`t allowed in the room when the abortion is being performed. Its still technically a surgery. At least he was trying to do something productive during the time. :)
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Male 229
Crakr - Go live with 5Cats and be miserable together.
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Male 17,512
DickenMcHunt: I never doubted whether or not it was genuine, I criticized him for not being with his wife to comfort her. Instead he leaves her alone and vents on these women, Camera in hand of course. That`s one of the biggest douche moves ever and I`m being honest when I say he needs anger management classes. If he can`t handle two women, Across the street, Protesting abortions, Then how will he be able to handle a new born crying every three hours or spitting up on his new shirt ?
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Male 229
Haha 5cats, I wish you`d invite me over so I could show you what a little guy I am. If not for the internet, your life would probably be an existance of chopping wood and sh-tting in an outhouse. You clearly have nothing better to do than sit back and criticize anyone who doesn`t agree with you. Try talking with real people and recognize that perhaps you have something to learn from others.
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Male 40,416
vv Thanks for the link @DickinMcHunt, I`m saddened that it`s true, losing a child is a terrible trauma.

vv Thank you for your thoughtful suggestion @Shnard-dog. Your obvious superiour intelligence completely overwhelms my Canadian brainz! Please come to my house and instruct me on the finer points of mouse f**king, of which you are an expert eh? What`s that? Couldn`t find Canada on a map if your life depended on it? Aw, so sad!

(please note I changed it to "mouse" which is far more appropriate for a "little guy" like Shnard, eh? Dog, lolz!)
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Male 1,299
@5Cats

The man is a real father, with a real wife and medical proof of their situation:

www.daddyfiles.com

He started his blog during his wifes pregnancy with their first son to document and vent upon the adventures of being a new Dad. He has been vetted by several major news outlets and his story checks out. By all accounts the baby, the wife, the heckling and the aftermath are all real- not staged and the emotions were genuine.
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Male 229
5Cats - Go f-ck a moose. Nobody gives a sh-t what you say because you don`t live here! You think you`re an expert on the U.S. and you don`t live here. You sir, are an idiot. Do you understand that... eh?
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@SavageNation

I drive by an abortion clinic nearly every day and there are people outside daily- DAILY! Yelling at virtually everyone that walks inside the building. Keep in mind, in the video he didn`t necessarily abort the fetus that day, and even if he did I really can`t imagine that I would react any differently. By the time I would be going in to abort the fetus I would have already grieved over the fact that MY CHILD was essentially dead- then after depression I go to a medical facility to alleviate the risk of medical complications levied upon MY WIFE and these people harass me?

I wouldn`t have been as level headed as this guy. I would have been breaking signs, kicking chairs, vomiting blood and spitting acid.

For the record I am pro euthanasia in all contexts, including those scenarios involving abortions. I don`t buy into the "pro-life," "pro-choice" nomenclature and I didn`t spend enough time in marketing to develop a snazzy name
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Male 40,416
Oh yes @SmilinSam and @Sepheroth, ignore @madest bringing up Obamacare propoganda, and blame the messenger for calling his bullcrap what it is.

Anyhow, I commented on the video already, your point is...?
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Male 189
Firstly, SavageNation, that was the stupidest thing I`ve read all week. Is he supposed to be sobbing or babbling incoherently? How would you know what a man who just had to loose a potential kid sounds like?

I hate these fire and brimstone retards who set up their soapboxes outside of clinics. They should all be charged with harrasment. People who need abortions should be able to get them without being messed with. If the bible was against heart surgery these morons would still be out there yelling about saving lives. And for those who are against it because of stupid teenagers escaping responsibility through abortion, there is no good way to distinguish people who need it from people who don`t. I`d rather they all get it than nobody.
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Female 1,963
These anti-abortion protesters make you sick. You can have your own views about it, you never have to have an abortion as far as I am concerned, and you can even quietly judge me for the choices I make.

What you cannot do is hassle strangers on the street. People whose situations you know absolutely nothing about.

And before anyone goes, "but that`s what he`s doing", no he`s not. If you go stand on the street with a placard and force your opinions on others, they are allowed to express their opinions in return.
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Male 500
You can be anti abortionist, it`s a condition of free speech and expression. What you can`t do is confront the man about it, that`s taking away his free speech and expression. If you don`t like it, you need to change the law, if that`s what the majority wants, but don`t try and harass people into your opinion, it never works anyway. It`s undemocratic so it undermines all of our free-world values. Surely you are just taking out your hate and revenge on the man?
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Female 676
I am absolutely on his side here. These people have no idea what situations people walking into a clinic are in. How terrible that woman must have felt, having someone remind her that she was about to kill her baby, despite having no choice about it.
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Female 376
Frankly I thought the so-called grieving Father acted ignorant. I dont see how these 2 women were being ridiculous or zealot. I seriously doubt his wife just aborted a baby as he spoke about it the same way you`d describe making a sandwich. LAME. Fail on the Guys part.
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Male 955
@smilinsam

this post could be about anything and he`ll try to start a debate on some political tangent just because someone references it at some point in the thread.
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Male 604
Middge aged white bitches (that`s female for dog) need to embrace feminism and get a job.
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Male 39,620
while I am anti-abortion I do support the Society for Creative Euthanasia. but there`s a difference.
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Female 3,598
5cats why are you trying to make this into a healthcare debate?

As for the video: Kudos to the man for standing up for himself and his wife. too many people just "take it" nowadays.
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Male 40,416
Oh, if you`re thinking "now ALL Americans will be covered" you`re still wrong, since 85% were already covered, `some` is a really small fraction, eh? Although that could easily grow.
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Male 40,416
[quote]Perhaps the new healthcare law... will enable some of these people to not fear having a disabled child.[/quote]
HAHAHAHA! @madest you FAIL yet again!
Because of the `new healthcare law` ALL child-policies are no longer being offered. Get it? There is now ZERO coverage for `sick children` (existing policies will be honored) AT ALL!~
I`ll provide linkies if you promise to admit I`m correct (and that you are fail)
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Male 40,416
vv True @madduck, I`m of the opinion that he made this video for his beliefs and the `wife and baby` are imaginary, but it`s an OPINION, no proof for it. Someone said they found more to the story, but didn`t provide a linky...
vv @leesah adoption means going to a highly investigated, good home! Not an orphanage, eh? Oh, and the `graduates` from `boys town` (go Bing it!) have a much higher average income and much LOWER criminal rate than, you know, average!

[quote]I think we should identify everyone who wants to PRACTICE the procedure and abort them on the spot.[/quote]
fify splurbyburbl! Seriously, that`s "eugenics" which Obama apparently supports... but most people find vastly offensive. The problem with overpopulation is not in North America, or Europe...


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Male 160
The indisputable argument : God said so. The invisible man inside my deluded head told me I was right.
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Female 258
Re: Camera brought to abortion clinic - He probably has a dataphone with a built in video camera. There`s no reason he shouldn`t bring his phone with him, and he probably had no intention of using the camera until he was in such a rage as to think of using it to humiliate a couple protesters on the internet.
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Female 114
It`s nice there wasn`t really any profanity :)
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Male 39,620
@Buiadh - just didn`t see your post...but since you called me out on it here`s my reply

Okay, I misspelled the name... nit pick why don`tcha.

The specific example you cited, your fiance, that abortion would have been legal before Roe vs Wade became law. Compassionate abortions for the safety of the mother were legal.

Roe vs Wad made whimsical abortion legal
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Female 513
Arguing with anti-abortionists is like arguing with anti-hunters and anti-meat eaters. You are never, ever going to win.
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Male 491
Hey look 2 women who`ve never been laid.
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Female 1,356
sounds like a useless argument,
as hard as you try now, the government will never get rid of abortion.... i think
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Male 379
I`m anti-birthcontrol abortion. That said, good for him. It`s about time some one stood up to the hate mongers who make those of us who understand there is a difference between mercy (or saving a life) and birth control look bad. I hope those two went home and thought about what he said (they didn`t).

Davisboy, Tim Tebow is a waste of a draft pick, so who cares?
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Male 99
its jonah hill
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Male 7,378
@ davisboy, That story is complete BS. Abortion is illegal in the Phillippines. No doctor would even suggest it for fear of prosecution. What you`re forwarding is anti-abortion propoganda.

From Wikipedia:
Abortion is criminalized by the Revised Penal Code of the Philippines, which was enacted in 1930 and remains in effect today. Articles 256, 258 and 259 of the Code mandate imprisonment for the woman who undergoes the abortion, as well as for any person who assists in the procedure, even if they be the woman`s parents, a physician or midwife.
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Female 2,525
"His wife needed his attention at that moment more than these people. Good going douchebag, Leave your wife crying in the car alone while you go vent your anger. This `dad` needs some anger management classes."

His wife was in surgery at the time, and he wasn`t allowed in the room with her while the procedure took place. He didn`t abandon her.
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Male 577
Yeah, most women aren`t going to get an abortion because some major health issue. That doesn`t mean that Jesus freaks should scream at them when they walk in the door. All of the girls I`ve known that got abortions felt terrible afterward. They were crying and didn`t want to talk to anyone for days. There`s no need to scream at someone is just about to do something that hard. Also, the pictures of dead babies need to stop. They aren`t convincing everyone and it`s nasty.
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Male 112
Pro choice.
don;t want to get into, I will only say.
It should be acceptable, it`s a persons choice.
there are times like this, there are less honorable times that people do it, there are better reasons.
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Male 551
As I already posted on the video
"If you could reason with religious people,
there wouldn`t be religious people at all"

Just saying...
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Male 7,378
Smoke screen? I dunno. Up until just a few months ago someone giving birth to a child with pre-existing conditions would be on the hook financially for it`s care. Perhaps the new healthcare law (which these anti-abortionists are probably against) will enable some of these people to not fear having a disabled child.
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Male 94
I always hate abortion arguments because they are never symmetric. In the end it comes down to one argument: whether it can be treated as a person or a fraction of a person or what. Arguments such as who wants the baby to live like X, meaning hostile environment. Assuming the earlier argument holds, that`s just euthanasia which similar reason can be justify killing kids and people later on. If its not true that is a valid point. If you are talking about preventing problematic children in health, why not kill after birth, not too much difference. If your talking about the stregnth of a population on a whole, why not selective breeding? While they are extremes the point is answer the first question and essentially all points follow from that. If it isn`t murder than why shouldn`t people be allowed it. If someone believe it is they see it as a holocaust so yah, it`s going to be extreme. If a satisfactory answer is given then the answer is simple. Get to the core skip the crap.
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Male 6,737
@gerry1of1

You avoided my post, was the point I made difficult for you to argue against?
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Male 1,882
This man speaks exactly what I find wrong with the loony people that protest outside abortion clinics and the pro-lifers that want to outlaw the practice in any and every instance. Horrible.

Bless that poor man and his wife, he is exactly right. Lowest common denominators.
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Female 347
I`m just impressed that he had the restraint not to beat the crap out of them.
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Male 39,620
@monkey_spank - my example may have been bad, but my point is still valid. There`s no way to determine if a physically perfect child or a handicapped one will contribute more as an adult.

those arguments are just a smoke screen for the core issue.... is it a person being killed or not.
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Female 154
Thank you for standing up for your wife!!! And amen for my right to choice!! So many factors to consider when someone walks into an abortion clinic, health of the mother, health of the baby and even life circumstances. Every person has a different reason for their choice and in no way would I want to be a factor in that choice, it is her choice and ultimately only hers. It seems unfair, but it is her body, her choice. But I do know after having two children myself, for me adoption would be my only choice.
But there needs to be that choice, no stipulation should impact how life is led once that baby is born. If the child is truely unwanted, why would you want to inflict upon them being stuck with a parent that regrets him or her being born??? It is a harsh, but true reality.
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Male 25,417
Bam! dumb people with their ways! snap! Its funny kos when someone gets confronted with the truth they dont want to hear it!
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Male 229
"Why are pro-lifers trying to force babies on people who can`t/won`t take care of them?"

Exactly. I don`t see the people holding the signs asking to adopt the people`s babies. And isn`t it these super-fundamental Christians that are extremely politically conservative? Meaning that when the time comes, they are going to vote against any legislation that would provide support to those who are unable to provide for their children. In essence, they are saying "you better have that freakin` baby or you are going to hell, but don`t look at me to help you out. I`m just here to tell you how wrong you are."
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Male 29
bam!!!! bitches had it comin! We need a dose of this kind of medicine at least once a day
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Female 178
That poor father :(
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Male 4,807
I was waiting when or ever abortion would be the new flame topic.

This was good though.
I laughed at how hypocritical these women are.
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Female 119
I hate these people. I had a miscarriage and was confronted by jerks like these, when I went into the office to make sure all of the stuff inside me was removed.
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Male 2,796
My thoughts: 1. The world is overpopulated. People are not going to practice abstinance no matter how much religious nuts want them to. Unborn babies are not cognizent of their pain or own mortality. I think we should identify everyone who wants to protest the procedure and abort them on the spot.

Some of the same people who protest this crap are the same people who cry over all the people in poverty, starving children, etc. all over the world... but god forbid we use this form of population control.
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Female 1,566
"that of the OVER 1,000,000 abortions in the USA, 95+% were NOT due to deformities, medical risks or like that"

So what? No seriously, so what? So some couple didn`t use birth control right and they don`t want a baby. Who cares? Why are pro-lifers trying to force babies on people who can`t/won`t take care of them? Yeah, they could have used birth control, but they didn`t. Sure, they could send it to be adopted, but birthing costs are still expensive, and it hurts to have a baby that you`re just going to dump in a shelter where it`ll stay until its eighteen then get dumped again on the streets. Why does that sounds like a life to pro-lifers?
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Male 5,194
Is that a picture of Jesus wearing a dress?
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Male 2,868
"7 abortion Dr.`s have been murdered and another 17 survived murder attempts by these emotionally disturbed whack-jobs."

And Sarah Palin said that she doesn`t know if those people can be called terrorists.


"Pro lifer`s murdering people. *LOL* It`s irony on a base level, but I like it."

-Bill Hicks
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Male 6,737
Firstly @ gerry1of1; Who is Steven Hawkins? Steven Hawking I know, but Hawkins? Sorry, nothing here.

Secondly my fianceé had to abort a baby so she could begin chemotherapy to treat her aggressive cancer that would kill her AND the baby before the baby`s due date yet it was still the hardest thing we`ve ever had to do.

You cannot blanket abortion and say it is not needed. It is. But sadly it is often abused and on this I agree, that needs to be sorted out. But to outlaw it completely is regressive.
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Female 385
Okay, seriously. He did go in with his wife. But he was not allowed in the procedure room. So while he his wife was inside, he went and confronted these jackasses.

These "protesters" do nothing but prey on those who are already in pain. They are the scum of the earth.
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Male 2,868
"All anti-abortionists are dispicable. All of them."

I`m very much pro-choice, but I disagree with that statement. Anti-abortionists whose beliefs are truly rooted in a deep reverence for the value of life are OK in my book- which is to say they are as anti-war and anti-death penalty as they are anti-abortion; so long as they demonstrate respect when expressing their beliefs.

Personally I would love to see a world with less abortion- but it would be one in which women don`t choose to have them because they have the familial and social support they need to raise their children. I don`t think too many people LIKE abortion, and it says something disturbing about our society that so many women feel that it is a better option than becoming a mother. Parenting wasn`t meant as a job for one or even just two people.
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Male 559
Lowest common denominator: someone who possesses only the most base level of abilities and/or skill sets, ie: someone that can only do what everyone else can but doesn`t do because they are smart enough and capable enough to achieve better things. He`s implying that anyone could be sitting out there holding a sign, but they don`t because they get why one shouldn`t do it.
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Male 7,378
These noodnicks put out Wanted posters for the abortion doctors. Planting seeds of destruction amongst their flock of retards to do what they are too scared to attempt. 7 abortion Dr.`s have been murdered and another 17 survived murder attempts by these emotionally disturbed whack-jobs. They are a cancer on society and should be treated as terrorists.
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Female 535
I think he just meant to say that they are really low..
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Female 535
How is a person a lowest common denominator?
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Female 1,593
do they want babies to be still born, or born with severe problems with no chance of a normal life...


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Yes and they want women whose lives are in danger to die, too.
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Female 1,593
I swear I saw "A couple had to abort 16-year-old dying baby and were accosted by these zealots."
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Male 51
@Gerry1of1

stephen hawking wasnt disanbled when he was born, he was diagnosed with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis when he was 21 years old

Go ahead and tell Steven Hawkins that he can never contribute and should not have been born. If you don`t know who he is.... Google him.
maybe you should google him... you cant even get his name right
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Female 8,006
5Cats- perhaps he was doing what many men will do- defend their wife, take out his anger apt words to people who have caused him and his wife distress. He makes the point that the clinic was affiliated to a hospital, that they had made his wife upset. They should be aware of that.
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Male 51
@Gerry1of1

stephen hawking wasnt disanbled when he was born, he was diagnosed with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis when he was 21 years old
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Female 470
I agree with what the guy said, but I`m kinda like 5cats. If the man`s wife was having her procedure done during all that, why wasn`t he inside being there for her? I know if this happened to me, I would not want my husband to be outside bitching out the protesters. It`s not going to do any good, and in the meantime, she`s having a fetus sucked out of her cooch. (Sorry for the bluntness)

It just doesn`t seem right.
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Male 40,416
(@Maromi, I`m thinking you meant to say "can NOT understand" ? sry if I`m in error, I only noticed it said "I can" after I posted...)
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Male 40,416
[quote]And who brings a camera to an abortion clinic?! - NexusLetum[/quote]
Perhaps he wanted to film the proceedure? lolz! Sick joke, I know.

[quote]I can understand these CIVIL RIGHTS protesters really. I mean, they`re fighting against something they feel strongly about. But I`ve yet to see it have any effect.[/quote]
fify! They`re using the only form of protest left, since pro-abortionists have used the courts to silence them (protestors) in every other way.
I`m sorry for the `dad` and his family (if real I mean) but his story is NOT typical. And it should have been done in a hospital.
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Male 2,306
I`m very disappointed in this man. He showed nothing but restraint, and dignity. Why...just why didn`t he shoot them with the .357 magnum?
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Male 40,416
He`s making that story up, obviously! He is a pro-abortionist who taped this for his side`s propoganda purposes. Why isn`t he inside with his "wife"? Why doesn`t he invite these protestors to meet his "wife" and see the medical records for themselves?

He asks what THEY are trying to do? What is HE trying to do? Make a propoganda tape, eh?
Hospital, not roadside abortion clinic.

How about the "dad" face reality, that of the OVER 1,000,000 abortions in the USA, 95+% were NOT due to deformities, medical risks or like that, (rape or incest! lolz! yeah right, half of 1% of rape victems get pregnant, eh?) (and YES they should be allowed to abort a rape-made baby, so don`t even bother) they were for convenience.
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Male 39,620
@monkey_spank - "do they want babies to be still born, or born with severe problems with no chance of a normal life..."

Go ahead and tell Steven Hawkins that he can never contribute and should not have been born. If you don`t know who he is.... Google him.
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Male 51
these protesters dont have a clue...

do they want babies to be still born, or born with severe problems with no chance of a normal life...
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Male 812
You can`t discuss with Christians, or else they pull all their imaginary friend into the conversation. Yes, God, I`m talking about you.
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Female 1,095
I can understand these abortion protesters really. I mean, they`re fighting against something they feel strongly about. But I`ve yet to see it have any effect. Every day I drive to school and pass the abortion clinic across the street, I see the same people decked out in white and clutching rosaries and bibles. One time I saw a group holding up pictures of aborted fetuses (honestly thought they were little shrimp) but after that one incident it never happened again because it seriously ruined everyone`s saturday morning. So yeah, if they want to stand outside of the building and pray all day every day then good for them. I`m just glad they don`t go around yelling at people. One of these days I hope to have a civilized conversation with them so that I may find a valid reason behind why they believe abortion to be wrong.
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Female 803
@CrakrJak, I stumbled upon the full article. He`d already brought his wife inside and the procedure had started before he went back to b*tch these good-for-nothings out.

@Heilsquav, you have no idea what women go through when they go to a clinic. Yes, there are women that have multiple abortions because the idiots can`t figure out how to use birth control, but those are few and far between. Most women that get abortions don`t have the means to have a child, whether it`s because they don`t have the money or they`re too young. You don`t know their stories.
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Female 2,674
I agree with CrakrJak, he should actually be inside with his wife.

And, as much as I do LOATHE abortion protesters (and I DO), I don`t think that going up to someone and yelling at them is going to solve anything. (Just like it didn`t solve anything when the protesters did it to him and his wife).

Maybe he could have went up to them and explained his situation, and had a constructive talk about their different points of view on the matter.

Also, he shouldn`t have filmed it. That was tacky.
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Male 7,123
<i>how are they supposed to know when someone goes in on actual business? They protest EVERY SINGLE day, EVEN Christmas.</i>

Are you insane? Am I supposed to give them a pass on account of their dedication?

How are they supposed to know? They are not. They are not supposed to know anybody`s personal story, and by the same freaking token, they are not supposed to abuse those people.

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Male 39,620
I`m anti abortion, but also anti anti-abortion-protesting. The courts ruled, protesting does nothing but harass people.

he could have handled it better but he was in Caveman mode protecting his mate. If you think he`s a douche bag, give him a break
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Male 4,680
CrakrJak- Yeah, the dad is the villain in all this. Clearly.
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Male 229
Crakr - You don`t always have to side with evil. Just wanted you to know for future reference.
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Male 17,512
His wife needed his attention at that moment more than these people. Good going douchebag, Leave your wife crying in the car alone while you go vent your anger. This `dad` needs some anger management classes.
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Male 7,378
All anti-abortionists are dispicable. All of them.
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Male 21
If they yelled at his wife they had it coming, but still the majority of people going to abortion clinics aren`t there because their baby has a serious birth defect. I don`t think this guy is a hero for going out and yelling at them, as far as I`m concerned both parties are wrong.
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Male 34
Thing is...I might not agree with abortion...but he`s right that the way they go about it is all wrong. Why do these Christians think that yelling at people is going to make people say...you know what? I think I`ll become a Christian...they yelled at me and well I respect them now. Please explain that to me! I don`t get it. They SHOULD be trying to talk gently to people, finding out their situations, talking with them...but they stand and yell? Makes no sense. Sadly, that`s the way most Christians are nowadays.
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Male 229
"Because there`s always a choice to react to that kinda poo and he accomplished nothing."

Totally disagree. You`re probably right that they`re going to continue with their pathetic protests, but perhaps it will cross their minds that the issue isn`t as black and white as these types of protesters try to make it.
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Male 4,593
Something tells me those protesters need to get laid.
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Female 136
Hey, I DON`T like them, but how are they supposed to know when someone goes in on actual business? They protest EVERY SINGLE day, EVEN Christmas. So it just happens that one day, a guy who`s in a lot of pain (but not enough to not film it) yells at them. Oh the horror! I`m just saying that what he said means nothing. But the fact that he filmed it irks me beyond belief. NOBODY ever complained to their faces about their posters when I worked there. I wish they would, but nobody I know has ever done so. It`s a lost cause. They`re just going to keep doing it anyway because they`ve got the right to speak.

Just know that no matter how provocative or inflammatory someone is, the person who retaliates IS the instigator (or if you really can`t accept that, the escalator) of the conflict. Because there`s always a choice to react to that kinda poo and he accomplished nothing.
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Male 7,123
NexusLetum,

What? He instigated it?

They verbally abused his wife at the worst moment of her life, through ignorance and self-righteouness and hate. His self-restraint when replying to their bile was incredible.

The guy`s a hero.

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Male 185
blind devotion to ideology does not forgive being a bad person. Dad is BAMF. Those ladies are disgusting excuses for humans.
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Male 3,058
@ Nexus: Pretty much everyone on the planet who carries a cell phone is carrying a video and still camera. It`s obvious from the quality of the video that it was shot with a cell phone.

Stop trying to justify the protester`s bad behavior.
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Male 174
People like these two make me drating SICK. They have completely lost touch with reality.
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Male 2,868
This guy rocks.
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Male 229
Good for that guy! And amazingly he was able to voice his opinion without stomping on her head.
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Male 271
same thing happened to a girl i used to date, one of the worst days of her life made a thousand times worse by people like these, with no concept of the gravity of the moment.

awful, misguided, stupid and offensive. whatever your veiws are, this is not the place to air them.
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Female 136
They yell at everybody. Big whoop. I used to be a part-time receptionist at a place like this. You ignore it if you work there, and the majority of "customers" aren`t there for good reasons. Like I said, he COULD have walked away. It`s not like they`ll listen. They aren`t feeling ashamed because they "know" they`re right. And who brings a camera to an abortion clinic?!
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Female 2,509
"He WAS the instigator in this after all"

No, they were by yelling at the passer byers. They want the right to express their opinion and so does he.
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Male 49
NexusLetum

He WASN`T the instigator. They yelled at his wife.
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Male 29
Nexus, THEY were the instigators because they were yelling at his wife first.

I see those d-bags with the mutilation signs everywhere and it makes me want to go print out giant posters of porn and stand next to them.

I generally give them crap, especially when there are kids around. Sick sick sick.
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Male 762
"He WAS the instigator in this after all"

Are you stupid? These people are standing on the street yelling at passers by and HE INSTIGATED IT!? They are yelling at his heartbroken wife and HE INSTIGATED IT!?
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Male 683
Damn... props to that man.
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Male 224
the lowest common denominator is actually the value that binds everyone together.
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Female 34
Yea, everyone hates those people. He`s right, those ignorant pricks have no idea why those walking in are aborting their baby. It could be something very serious, and the parents are already heartbroken over what they have to do. They`re insensitive and stupid.
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Male 498
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Female 136
You know, maybe if I could hear their responses, I might not think this guy is such a jerk. I`m pro-choice and all, everything he`s saying makes sense, but did he really need to do this with a camera? He WAS the instigator in this after all, it`s not like he couldn`t just walk away or calmly tell them this.

Aside from that, why DO these people hold up gore signs in public? Nobody ever seems to complain when their kid has to see it and that`s really the only type of person most likely to be affected by it.
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Male 15,510
Lol they looked like little girls. Well I guess this is todays flame war
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Male 132
I love this guy. He`s just saying what everyone`s thinking.
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Male 20,830
Link: Dad Confronts Abortion Protesters [Rate Link] - A couple had to abort 16-week-old dying baby and were accosted by these zealots.
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