The Difference Between Chivalry & Sexism [Pic]

Submitted by: fancylad 7 years ago in Funny

The difference is big...
There are 137 comments:
Male 65
Sometimes that excuse does fly.

Angillion, A1butcher read your messages and found them to be tedious, and you misrepresent that to mean that A1butcher can`t read well? Your messages could`ve been condensed into one (1,000 characters not enough?) if you edited them. Less work on your part.

Thubanster, if the cartoon does not apply to you, then let it go. Women can be spoiled and fickle, some more than others. If you support women then you must support all of their qualities, good or bad.
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Male 185
hmmm shes doing less work....i wonder if thats why she gets paid less? or is it because she gets her period and calls in sick? and that it actually flys....
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Male 1,164
I approve of this.
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Male 4,807
Angilion.. And you, my dear sir, could benefit from an adult-sense of lighten-up course. ;)
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Male 12,365
a1butcher: I realise that reading is difficult for some people and that reading more than a few lines is tiring for them, but not everyone is like that. It appears that you are. Could you benefit from an adult learning course?
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Male 4,807
(noun) Angilion
a person or thing that wearies by prolixity or dullness; a tiresome person or affair; any person or thing which causes ennui

(verb)
to weary by tedious iteration or by dullness; to tire; to trouble; to vex; to annoy; to pester

Wow dude, Congratulations you made into the dictionaryo
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Female 836
Yes, I "read the cartoon". It`s comparing apples and oranges. It`s trying to make women seem spoiled and fickle. I still say, stupid cartoon.
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Male 29
@Angilion
Overkill much?
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Male 12,365
This is the norm all over the country and sometimes they didn`t even bother picking jobs that were even vaguely similar, e.g. the first example I saw was shipbuilders and canteen workers.

This successfully caused a huge rush of cases submitted to tribunals, which enabled the same people who`d faked them all in the first place to argue that the problem was extreme and a lot more needed to be done because obviously huge numbers of women were being discriminated against - it was the norm, here`s the proof! Because, of course, normal people think that "same" means "same", "equal" means "equal", "men" means "men" and "women" means "women". That`s the power of variable definitions.
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Male 12,365

As a result, women *and only women* who worked cleaning offices got a bucketload of free money, which meant that women who worked cleaning offices got paid much more than men who did exactly the same job and exactly the same hours. A major feminist success and a milestone for "equal pay for women" (i.e. women getting paid more than men for the same work).

In the same council, gardeners *regardless of their sex* had more opportunity to work overtime than office cleaners *regardless of their sex*. This was also ruled to be paying women less than men for the same amount of the same work, so women *and only women* who worked cleaning offices got more free money and more cases were added to the figures (the same women claimed twice, obviously, counting as two cases each).
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Male 12,365
Using a variable definition of "same", feminists succeeded in having these two jobs as the same job. Using a variable definition of "male" and "female", feminists succeeded in having all people working on rubbish collection defined as being male, regardless of their sex, and all people cleaning council offices as female, regardless of their sex. The difference in pay rate between the two jobs therefore became paying women less than men for the same work and thus illegal. And no, I am not joking. This is the official ruling.

In a nice extra move, every woman gets to bring a seperate case in order to maximise the number of cases of "women being paid less than men for the same work" (i.e. different jobs having different rates of pay to each other).
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Male 12,365
One of the horde of examples of this:

Domestic rubbish collection traditionally paid quite well for unskilled work because of the conditions. You work outdoors in all weather, early in the morning. You will freeze. You will work in the rain. You will work in the snow. You will work on ice. You`re also working in the road, which puts you at some risk. An unpleasant and not entirely safe job, so the job paid more. Of course, the job paid the same regardless of the sex of the person doing it.

Cleaning council offices didn`t have any of those drawbacks apart from early morning hours on some shifts, and those shifts came with extra pay because of it. So the job paid less than domestic rubbish collection, because it was a less unpleasant and safer job. Of course, the job paid the same regardless of the sex of the person doing it.
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Male 12,365
By the mid 90s, mainstream feminism in the UK was facing the problem that nearly everyone had seen through one of their fundamental big lies - the universal conspiracy to oppress all women by secretly paying them less than all men for the same work and hiding it...somehow. It`s obviously ridiculous and impossible, but they lied skillfully enough to fool many people for several decades. But, by the mid 90s, the writing was on the wall for that particular lie. People were committing the horrifying sin of asking for evidence, which of course feminists didn`t have.

So they used one of their standard techniques - variable definitions of words. Use one definition when creating the figures, use a completely different definition when publishing them.

Hardly any cases of actual sexism in pay existed, so mainstream feminists had to use variable definitions to create the appearance of more. Which they succeeded in doing thanks to the very feminist Labour government.
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Female 876
Spartakitty - Women who aren`t in construction jobs...
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Male 537
Yep... thats about how it goes.
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Female 2,120
What woman can`t carry 80 pounds? /facepalm
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Male 599
Of course the guy should get paid more; the woman is carrying a box 40 times lighter than the box the man is carrying, so the man should be paid 40 times more. Simple math folks, nothing else to see here.
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Male 1,164
miarty... yes it is, but its completely true
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Male 587
Pfft.. I am married and the cost of EVERYTHING comes out of the same account. Then again there have been points in my marriage where I was unemployed and we lived off of my wifes salary and the other way around. Marriage fixes most of these sexism problems.
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Female 32
well this is stupid.
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Male 368
so true
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Male 243
Arrr, as my father has told me since I was young, in this Country thar is only one repressed race and sex and that`s the White Male. Gar. Aye, and the reason it is so, is Omg the White Male. Aye.
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Female 221
Well this is only true for the majority of women,

i like to be fair. i consider men and women equals. we both should pay half or he pays one day i pay another.

as for the second panel, thats just annoying because for women that would ALSO have the 80 pound box or for men who would have the 2 pound box while the woman had the heavier one, he`d STILL get paid more.
and why would a guy mention he gets paid more anyways...
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Male 6,693
I like to pay for a beautiful woman. Just like they say. You get what you pay for.
;-)
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Male 2,419
"how good looking people tend to make more money and move up the food chain faster than someone who is obese"

:O the good looking people are eating the obese people?!
(why`re humans on different levels of a food chain??)
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Male 2,850
@Liz4187

I think you`re correct on the unintentional aspect. We had some (admitedly boring, but useful) training at work that talked about indirect discrimination.

The example given was smoking. If you have a boss who smokes, and has regular smoking breaks outside, then any employees who also smoke and go and chat with the boss during the breaks may get "in" with the boss more than non-smoking employees who don`t get this extra socialisation.

Incidentally, I think there was an episode of Friends where Rachel takes up smoking for exactly this reason; she was getting left out of decision-making because it was all being done on the smoking breaks.
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Female 28
My two cents: The gap is a real thing, is it intentional.. probably not. It is kind of like how good looking people tend to make more money and move up the food chain faster than someone who is obese. Same as someone who is sociable and dresses well. It is something that is subconsciously done. This ranges depending on the work place, and many large corporations have taken steps to combat this statistic. However there are certainly people who run a business and do this without realizing, individual experiences aside there have been several studies on this and I choose to believe statistics on the matter.
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Male 2,850
Regarding paying for food on dates, here`s my general philosphy, from the world of gay dating where sexism doesn`t factor in:

The one who invited the other out on the date, pays (or at least offers to pay).
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Male 2,850
@mastrmind

"Theres a commercial on tv right now with a man carrying a bag of chocolates through the airport security - 2 women eye him down, and then take the bag, and say they had to strip search him, But thats fine."

Before anyone chimes in saying "but men would love attention like this from hot women", I`ll just add:

1: some of us don`t find the conventional "attractive" look appealing.
2: some of us are married/taken.
3: some of us are gay.

That advert sounds damn sexist to me, and I`m surprised it got past censors.
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Male 102
There was actually an article on this on yahoo news recently.

The headline read "At last, women close the pay gap" or something like that.

It read that in several different jobs unmarried, single childless women with a college degree tend to make ~5-10 percent MORE than men working the same job.

But I don`t see the activists now shouting that MEN should close the gender gap.

Sexism in America is merely reversed. Look at how America is set up, women have much more options when it comes to jobs and hiring than a man, moreso if it is a white man.

But its ok to be sexist and racist against the white man.

Theres a commercial on tv right now with a man carrying a bag of chocolates through the airport security - 2 women eye him down, and then take the bag, and say they had to strip search him, But thats fine.

Switch it up and OMG SEXUAL HARASSMENT ON A COMMERCIAL. Die misogynistic men!.
But who notices any of that..
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Male 1,313
Pfft... I remember when I worked at sears. I was passed over twice for promotions to management by females... that I had to train to do the jobs afterwards.

It`s not because I wasn`t worthy, I was the only one still around applying for them. It`s because I wasn`t the hot looking females who applied for them. Men get drated over by sexism just as much as women... and who really thinks one particular get`s paid more than the other. Complete bullsh#t.
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Male 12,365
[quote]The root of Chivalry = Chavalier. Chavalier = French for horse. Chivalry simply means treating a woman at least as well as you treat your horse. e.g. If you don`t beat your horse, don`t beat your woman. If you feed your horse, feed your woman. You have to open the stable door to get your horse in and out, so do the same as your woman. So woman that want Chivalry, how`s it feel to be treated like a horse?[/quote]

Totally wrong. `chevalier` is the *rider* of a horse, which in the medieval context (where the basis of chivalry comes from) meant nobility (horses were very expensive to own and maintain). We have an image of horses being used on farms in the past, but that was much later. Horses were not used on farms in those days. The main heavy work animal was the cow.

Chevalier was most associated with the class of noblemen most associated with horse riding - knights.
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Male 12,365
It would be possible in theory to hide it amongst jobs further up the hierarchy, but the gap would have to be far larger in order for that smaller amount of the job market to drag the average down as far as is claimed.

That would alter your conspiracy theory to one in which women above a certain level of the job market are always paid less than half what men working the same number of hours in the same job are paid *and everyone involved in this conspiracy always keeps silent about it forever*.

So, you`ve made the conspiracy a bit smaller and you`ve ignored the working class. Which is normal for feminism - it`s always been mostly about middle class women.
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Male 12,365
[quote]You guys are talking about payroll conspiracy, but that`s not how the income disparity works.[/quote]

It would be an absolute requirement of the "income disparity" if such a thing actually existed rather than being propaganda to promote sexism.

Remember, you`re arguing that men get paid 35% more than women *for the same amount of the same work, across all jobs*. Unless, of course, you`re sexist enough to make the fairly common claim women are vastly superior to men and thus do far more work than men in the same time.

In order to apply across all jobs, it must apply across all jobs. That means there would have to be this massive conspiracy to hide it in payroll, as I described before. So, for example, every man working in a job advertised as paying $8/hour must be getting a Secret Manbonus of $2.66/hour *that no-one ever mentions*.
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Male 1,067
I like Buck176`s point :P If you were to tell a woman that, she`d probably never let you pay for a meal again :P
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Male 5,189
LOL
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Female 1,441
I don`t know of a single feminist who believes in chivalry. I mean, if you offered to pay for both meals they would probably be more insulted than thrilled.
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Male 378
The root of Chivalry = Chavalier. Chavalier = French for horse. Chivalry simply means treating a woman at least as well as you treat your horse. e.g. If you don`t beat your horse, don`t beat your woman. If you feed your horse, feed your woman. You have to open the stable door to get your horse in and out, so do the same as your woman. So woman that want Chivalry, how`s it feel to be treated like a horse?
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Male 2,893
I don`t see what the problem is here.
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Male 720
YES
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Male 15,832
If women are truly underpaid, some enterprising feminist should be able to start a company, hire all these brilliant unappreciated women, and kick the competition`s butt.

I`m waiting...
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Male 1,557
@BalenWest Whoever can afford it within a relationship, or if it`s two single guys on date... usually whoever wants in the others pants, lol
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Female 1,264
I pay my part. Sometimes, I also pay his. Sometimes, he pays mine. Men are supposed to be chivalrous, but what about us? We work, we make money, we CAN buy them dinner too. That`s real feminism, not crap.
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Male 383
@Voodooshaman
An ex-lesbian? Lolwut?
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Male 94
There have been studies into the wage gap and its more interesting. Most of the gap doesn`t compensate for things like experience. A 20 year long worker in a field is going to be paid many more times then a 1-2 year. Even without these factors its still interesting. For example in a study evaluators penalize female candidates more when they ask for a pay raise.
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Male 450
thats why im the guy who was smart and got an ex lesbian feminist who buys me poo
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Male 22
Hmmm. In the Gay world, does the TOP pay?
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Male 768
"Why fight mother nature? Men were built to dispense seed and nothing else. That is why we`re dispensable. Women were built to take seed, have babies, and raise babies. That is why they`re valued and men WORK to be with them. 1 man can impregnate a million women. 1 women can only get pregnant by one guy at a time." impregnating a million women sounds utterly exhausting, and not possible without some kind of medical intervention.
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Female 136
You guys are talking about payroll conspiracy, but that`s not how the income disparity works. The income disparity is more based on that odd habit employers have of "promoting" you to a higher position like "special department manager" while giving you the responsibilities of a "department manager" without the same pay raise. That is how this disparity works. It`s based off job responsibilities vs. pay, not job title (which means poo).

Now, the reason why they don`t hire more women due to the disparity is because of a) maternity leave b) equally qualified male candidate or c) sexism (which is not the same as b)

In the case of b, an employer sees a married man as being the "breadwinner", it`s not nice, but it`s not entirely the same as outright sexism. So, of an equally qualified man vs. woman, a married woman is a liability (leave paid = expense over wage difference) while a married man is more likely to NEED the job (at least i
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Male 243
Why fight mother nature? Men were built to dispense seed and nothing else. That is why we`re dispensable. Women were built to take seed, have babies, and raise babies. That is why they`re valued and men WORK to be with them. 1 man can impregnate a million women. 1 women can only get pregnant by one guy at a time.

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Male 3,915
wow....this is the biggest most recent post flame war i`ve seen in forever......

lol....women`s feelings....
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Female 3,562
Sure, I like it if the guy pays for food, but only because I have very little money and I`d only allow it if he could afford it easily. I`ve gone out with guys who are as broke as me and I`m perfectly happy with splitting the bill.
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Male 12,365
Bah, typo. It should read "break the Superconspiracy", not "break to Superconspiracy"
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Male 12,365
Here`s an opportunity to break to Superconspiracy!

Men...have you ever got a job advertised as paying $x per hour/year and then been told that you`ll actually be paid 35% more than that as a Secret ManBonus but you must keep silent about it?

Women...have you ever concealed this Secret ManBonus when working in payroll or auditing or approved it if you had authority over payroll?

No?

Maybe, just maybe, it doesn`t really exist! Shocker!

And yes, this is exactly what is required *in every business* if the ludicrous claim that women get paid 75% of what men get paid for the same work was true.

It`s the most ludicrous conspiracy theory ever devised. It`s big lie propaganda. I`m not convinced that *anyone* believes it, including the people spreading it. They`re just promoting irrational prejudice, which is what such propaganda is for.
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Male 8,538
The so-called Income Disparity is based on a false premise. It compares overall pay for men and women. It does not take into account that men tend to work more hours, disparity in career choice, maternity leave, children, danger wages and occupational segretation. When you compare males and females wages in the same job classification, the disparity virtually disappears.

I will hold the door open for anyone behind me: young, old, male, female, black or white. It`s the human thing to do. Occasionally I will get a dirty look from a `libber` because they think I`m patronizing them, to which will state, "Sorry, mistook you for a lady." (Except for one `lady` who cussed me out for holding the door, yelling that SHE "didn`t need to gawtdammed man holding no gawtdammed door for HER." I just replied, "Then I guess a bl*wj*b later is out of the question?" and walked away. Got a standing ovation from passerby`s.)
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Male 12,365
[quote]However, I don`t understand it when they do the same amount of work. For example, an accountant should be paid the same amount regardless if he or she is a woman. The amount paid can be varied from person to person depending on education, experience, and skills but a male who has equal education/experience to a woman should be paid the same as the woman.[/quote]

Which is what happens in the real world.

If it didn`t, then men would find it damn near impossible to get a job because businesses would all be employing only women to cut costs.

Besides, it would require a ludicrously impossible conspiracy to cover it up. Keeping the alleged extra pay to men secret would require the co-operation of every employed man and every woman in payroll, auditing and any position senior enough to know true payroll costs. Ridiculous.

Incidentally, why do you use `male` and `woman`? Dehumanising men or just not thinking?
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Male 12,365
[quote]"So true! I`m a woman, dammit! I should love it when men get paid more than I do for the same work! It`s not like I ever foot the bill myself!"

I should love it when I have to pay more for insurances and other things just because I`m a man.[/quote]

The most important difference being that men do have to pay more for insurance for being male, whereas women don`t get paid less than men for doing the same work. That`s a lie, propaganda and obviously ludicrous. It`s the most mental conspiracy theory ever invented because it required a perfect conspiracy of utter silence from the majority of the population. Hundreds of millions of people and never one of them exposing the conspiracy...you have to be insane to believe it, genuinely insane.
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Female 535
So then if men are paid more, they are more able than women to afford a restaurant meal.
Contradicting comic..
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Male 12,365
[quote]@mmills: That is not exactly true. More accidents involve men because there are more male drivers. Percentage wise, females are just as likely to be in an accident as males. The difference if rates is not based on business, but an old stereotype.[/quote]

The really fun thing is...no-one provides any sex-specific stats for car accidents. Seriously, just try to find some. So it might well be based on (a) old stereotypes and (b) insurance companies charging men more because they can get away with it.

The alleged situation, which might or might not be true, is that the average number of accidents per mile driven per woman is higher than the corresponding figure for men, but that the average cost to the insurer per man is higher either because men get the blame more often or men tend to crash at higher speeds or both.

But really, who knows? Insurance companies will charge what they can to who they can. Money is money.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Also, chivalry is sexist when confined to men, but really, all it is about is politeness and generousity. If a women is those things she`s just thought of as well-manered rather than chivalrous.[/quote]

Chivalry is the idealised medieval code of honourable behaviour for the nobility, especially knights (it`s derived from `chevalier`) and it is spectacularly sexist.

Medieval life wasn`t anywhere near as sexist *for most people* as it`s commonly thought to have been, but for the nobility it most definitely was and chivalry took it further because it was an idealised code of behaviour.

If you want ungendered politeness, advocate that. Chivalry is totally different.
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Male 582
Men are made to live short, violent lives. Women are made to live long, miserable ones.

In the US, women don`t make less, on average than men in the same job anymore.

Unless its piece work. Then men do, on averagemake more.
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Male 30
man alot of sexism and chivalry in this room
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Male 2,548
Of course he should pay, she couldn`t have eaten much more than a pea, look at the size of her waist!
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Female 282
There are certain jobs where women and men cannot perform on the same level. Such as carrying huge weights, etc. There are however, jobs where they can preform the same, such as being a cashier or a waiter or a flight attendant. In the cases where men can outperform women, they should be paid more, they can do more work, when they can`t, and don`t, the pay should be the same.
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Male 353
Women have a pussy. Men are controlled by pussy, therefore women are more powerful than men!
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Female 31
The point is that obviously a lot of women would like men to pay the bill and be pleased when they do. However, that isn`t the same as expecting it. I certainly wouldn`t, and I`d be more comfortable if we split it.
Also, chivalry is sexist when confined to men, but really, all it is about is politeness and generousity. If a women is those things she`s just thought of as well-manered rather than chivalrous.
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Male 165
@ madest. There are two PGA`s because of the two human anatomys. Men are stronger (a fact). I am not saying women not capable of beating men in a game of golf, but I can see complaints from women saying men have the unfair advantage because of higher testosterone levels.
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Female 3,598
beerbaby
Male, 30-39, Midwest US

Chivalry isn`t about doing things for women at all. And it definitely has zero to do with money.

where do you live? wanna hang out sometime?
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Male 4,680
Everyone has their own separate reasons for choosing to be a man or a woman. I myself remember doing a lot of research, then finally deciding to be a male. At first I wasn`t really sure if it was a good idea, but I stuck with it and now I`m reaping the benefits.
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Female 3,598
so what is it when i pay for everything? justified? or just bullsh*t?
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Male 243
Americans are such pacifists now a days. What happened to our individualisms? We don`t care about how different you are anylonger, you`re all the same. Men, women, dogs, cats, red, black, yellow, white, w/e you`re just numbers to me now. THANK YOU INTERNETZ I BLAME YOU.
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Male 25,416
hmmm...
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Male 243
There, I deleted my comment so there`s no hint of religion. :) Although, I`m certain there was nothing on there that was trying to make a debate about religion. :(
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Female 71
I think chivalry is more like holding doors and being courteous; which are also things women should do. I believe in splitting tabs because men being `gentlemen` and always paying IS sexist.
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Female 199
wow

how did the comments turn into a religious debate
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Female 535
[quote]I should love it when I have to pay more for insurances and other things just because I`m a man. [/quote]
Sexism sucks, doesn`t it?
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Male 172
"You pay more for insurance because men get in more accidents than women do. Insurance companies have more risk insuring you than a female. It`s not sexism, it`s business."

Wrong. We get into more harmful accidents. Women are, statistically, terrible drivers. They get into more accidents per capita, but they are less harmful.

TL;DR Women suck at driving, men are reckless drivers.
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Female 1,427
I get told, blatantly, NOT to lift heavy objects.

So I don`t. I`d call it sexism except I don`t have to do as much work. Bwahahah.
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Male 83
i think we guys are the victims,seriously,look at difference in the weight,it`s 40 times more and they still try to complain.Well,all you feminists die in hell for making us the bad guys,if you get offended that we get more paid-thats probably because we do more the work,not because we are "socially better accepted" as workers.And by the way,try to think about which worker gets the raise for having a cleavage.
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Male 848
You believe wrong, Inter237.
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Male 378
@mmills: That is not exactly true. More accidents involve men because there are more male drivers. Percentage wise, females are just as likely to be in an accident as males. The difference if rates is not based on business, but an old stereotype.
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Male 180
Dudes, stop it! Stop fighting with girls. Is it REALLY that damn important?

Man up, get up off yer arse, go find the nearest woman and give her a smile and a hug. Then tell her she smells nice (unless it`s your mom or sister).

Next time you feel like fighting with someone, especially a stranger, go find a dude and start some sh*t. Maybe he`ll accommodate.

Haysus tap-dancing Christo.
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Female 1,077
that`s why being a lady who likes the ladies avoids these issues.
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Male 137
@kerryfairy82: Want to take me out to dinner? (You can also pay for my plane to Europe!) xD

@Isafan: Agreed.
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Male 440
I work in a job that is also done by women. We all get paid the same wage. However, I used to do all the heavy lifting (5% of the job). I always thought that this was unfair.

I now have a back injury so it is no longer an issue. Every cloud has a silver lining.
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Female 2,525
Does I-A-B just hate women, or what?
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Male 2,441
I believe salaries are pretty equal these days
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Male 84
Chivalry isn`t about doing things for women at all. And it definitely has zero to do with money.
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Male 243
"Actually, this implies that men can lift more than women, which is fine. The effort put forth by this woman is the same as the man, even though she lifts less than he does. If they both carry as much as they can they should get paid the same."


So you`re saying everyone in Professional Sports should be paid the same? As ya know, they`re out there all running around together putting in the same effort. That`s not reality though, the better you perform at your job the more you`re paid. People should be paid by performance. That`s fair right? If a women can only lift 1/4 of the man, but gets the same amount of work done then she should be paid the same. If she can lift only 1/4 of the amount, and only get 1/4 of the amount finished she should be paid 1/4 of what the man is earning. Doesn`t matter with sex - there are wimpy guys out there that can`t lift much.
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Female 275
@Fojos
You pay more for insurance because men get in more accidents than women do. Insurance companies have more risk insuring you than a female. It`s not sexism, it`s business.
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Female 839
I never expect a man to foot the bill. just sayin`
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Male 2,586
@GiveChase

Finally, a woman that understands! :)- usually it takes us guys about three or four times to explain it to you! lol
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Male 39,913
love it!
true
for the ladies who don`t think this is funny...go make me a sammich
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Male 13
Actually, this implies that men can lift more than women, which is fine. The effort put forth by this woman is the same as the man, even though she lifts less than he does. If they both carry as much as they can they should get paid the same.

-Don`t try to make it equal, try to make it fair.
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Male 287
"So true! I`m a woman, dammit! I should love it when men get paid more than I do for the same work! It`s not like I ever foot the bill myself!"

I should love it when I have to pay more for insurances and other things just because I`m a man.

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Male 716
See, I don`t believe in Chivalry or Sexism.

Just because you might have a different physique (different men have different physiques from other men and women from women) and different sexual organs, and a different chromosome or two... I don`t give a damn.

No chivalry (though courtesy should be expected and given). No sexism.

Solves a lot of problems.

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Female 8,052
Chivalry is down to good manners, sexism is down to treating women as though they have less worth than men. It is polite to open doors- I do it for the elderly and other people and appreciate it when others do it for me. I pay when my dinner companion earns less than I, or when I issued the invitation.
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Female 38
lol`d, come on, why so serious?
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Male 172
"but at the same time, what about the women who don`t have guys around for the heavy lifting? at work, home or with kids if they have them-there are a lot of situations where being girly and dainty just doesn`t cut it and women get through them with much less recognition, pay and praise. so at work, ok, you`re lifting more than me, but I have more responsibilities regarding family and household, especially if by myself. so yes, I can argue with that."

And then complain that you don`t make as much because you work less due to lifestyle choices? Street doesn`t run both ways this time, honey.
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Male 65
Chivalry is holding the door open for a woman. Sexism is slapping her ass on the way through.
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Female 535
So true! I`m a woman, dammit! I should love it when men get paid more than I do for the same work! It`s not like I ever foot the bill myself!
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Male 587
The chick in the pic is not doing equal work. Therefore should be paid considerable less. This is how it is in the work place. They do less and get less done but cry when they don`t get paid as much..
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Male 2,796
This cartoon is not about money. I am surprised to see the topic of discussion on the forum is about money from most of the members here.

The topic should be about context because, obviously the cartoon is about how if a girl likes something you do, she accepts it. But if she doesn`t then it all of the sudden becomes a huge problem.

In my opinion it touches on a truth because there are a lot of sexual harrassment charges stemming in part from stuff like this that happens everyday. Hell, it happened to me a couple of years ago.

I fired a woman because she wasn`t doing her job. She turned it into "because I wouldn`t sleep with him". Nothing came of it because I could prove her wrong. But the destructive power women have is awful when it comes to trash like this.

Thought I would share.. carry on
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Male 133
I just think the whole sexism argument is always a case of sour grapes. If a woman or man doesn`t earn as much as their man or woman coworker, it`s sexist, but if they earn more, it`s because they earned it and deserve it, right? ;-)
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Male 1,196
hahahah that is funny.
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Male 900
@thubanstar,

you should read the cartoon before speaking...
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Male 2,868
This implies that guys get paid more because they do better work- which is sexist. Guys don`t just get paid more in jobs that require physical labor- they get paid more across the board. I`m going into nursing- a field which has been traditionally dominated by women, and which still is. Yet I will enjoy a higher salary on average over the course of my career than my female classmates.
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Female 2,352
I like paying when I can.

And we share the lifting cause my BF has the back of an old ass man.
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Male 133
"Stupid cartoon... since when is getting paid more "chivalry"??? Chivalry is being noble, honest and polite. Look it up before you draw a cartoon about it."

...getting paid more was the sexism part of the comic. Chivalry was the guy paying for dinner, or being noble.
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Female 751
I`m the one who makes more in my marriage, and we split all expenses 50/50 just like we do responsabilities. Some day you lady haters are going to have to realize we`re not all the same. some of us don`t mind equal rights, and those that want to bitch and moan about how men should and shouldn`t do this and that can just shut it. Who is either gender to tell the other how things can and should be??
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Male 1,108
@Madest, I have no objection to women playing golf either. They can share the course equally for me. They can play at night and we`ll play in the day.
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Female 836
Stupid cartoon... since when is getting paid more "chivalry"??? Chivalry is being noble, honest and polite. Look it up before you draw a cartoon about it.
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Male 2,422
It turns out women earn the same, and sometimes more, than men for doing the exact same amount of work. The aggregate difference in wages between men and women as groups arises from the different kinds of choices they make. Here
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Male 478
If women are equal, chivalry doesn`t exist.
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Male 833
consider our extra pay as our fee for being chivalrous. if you want to make the same money then dont expect us to pay out more and go out of our way to help you.
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Male 7,378
Sexism should be challenged in court more often. I don`t understand why we have 2 PGA`s one Professional Golf Association and the other identically named with "Ladies" as a proviso. Makes no sense. Let the women play. I suspect they don`t allow the sexes to mingle because they fear a man may get beat by a lady.
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Male 7,830
this is so true, most women just would not admit it.
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Male 425
My girlfriend and I always switch who pays for what. I`ll pay one day and She`ll pay the next and so on and so on. But I always do the heavy lifting cause she can`t lift crap.
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Male 180
I love women. All of them. Every one. I love how they look, walk, talk, and smell.

I choose the company of women when I have a choice ... unless they`re being catty, then I stay away until they`re done.

I love my wife the most.
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Male 1,313
I`ve never had a job where a female got paid less than me, but in almost every job they still f`king managed to do less work than me. But you know, it`s cool... wouldn`t want to be sexist or anything...
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Female 4,039
@RFMITCH1 - I hear that loud and clear. Except for the kids part.
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Female 914
but at the same time, what about the women who don`t have guys around for the heavy lifting? at work, home or with kids if they have them-there are a lot of situations where being girly and dainty just doesn`t cut it and women get through them with much less recognition, pay and praise. so at work, ok, you`re lifting more than me, but I have more responsibilities regarding family and household, especially if by myself. so yes, I can argue with that.
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Female 914
good one panth753, lol.

to tell the truth, I don`t know how to feel about it.
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Female 22
Believe it or not, al ot of women AREN`T like that.
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Female 2,927
when they get paid MORE for doing the SAME work, sexism. being courteous, let me do it for you so you wont be inconvenienced, chivalry.
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Female 137
repost
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Female 536
LOL, sad but true. Personally, I don`t like to let the guy pay for everything `cause then I owe him, and that`s a sucky situation to be in. If you really want to be independent women, you should pay your own way, girls.
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Male 121
I never understood why women wanted to have to go to work everyday as apposed to tending to children and the house and then hanging out with neighbors all day. I would if I could.
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Female 448
I can understand people getting paid less when they don`t do as much work (like in the picture when the woman was holding the 2 pound box and the guy was holding the 80 pound box).

However, I don`t understand it when they do the same amount of work. For example, an accountant should be paid the same amount regardless if he or she is a woman. The amount paid can be varied from person to person depending on education, experience, and skills but a male who has equal education/experience to a woman should be paid the same as the woman.
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Female 1,604
I kinda see, but I believe that whoever asks whoever out on a date should pay, if the woman asks then she should pay if the guy asks then he should. As for working, if they are doing the same job then they should be paid equally. If not then different.
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Male 3,285
No matter what women say. it`s the truth.
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Male 1,108
My wife and I discuss this a lot. When she chews me out for not helping around the house my greatest defence is, "well whos job will it be to fight a burgalar?" it wins everytime.
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Female 9,572
Maybe because men typically get paid more that they should have no problems separating from it.
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Male 833
we get payed more cause we hafta pay for everything.
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Male 5,314
how could you argue?
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Male 6,737
Argument commencing in 10..... 9...... 8...... 7.....
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Male 20,909
Link: The Difference Between Chivalry & Sexism [Pic] [Rate Link] - The difference is big...
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