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264 Responses to Failed SWAT Raid In Missouri On 2/11/2010

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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:15 am
    Link: Failed SWAT Raid In Missouri On 2/11/2010 - The cops bust guys door in the middle of the night shoot his dogs with children present. Find small amount of weed.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:12 pm
    drating non-nice individuals.
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    elHadji Male 70 & Over
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:14 pm
    I always quit watching the video after he realizes that they shot his dog. It`s so freaking messed up.
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    citizen_kane Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:16 pm
    terrifying
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    clearskies Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:17 pm
    well. that was f***** up.
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    Willzgb Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:18 pm
    I-A-B What is next....u gonna post some children getting ther throats cutoff...please stop putting this messed up stuff here
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    Skeezer1991 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:21 pm
    I know this gay site is gonna censor me, but it must be said. drat THE POLICE
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:26 pm
    Holy drat. Typical Americans, all guns blazing.
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    moefreak Female 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:26 pm
    Yeah... not going to watch a video of a dog being shot or of people realizing that their dog is dead. I`m certainly not that masochistic.
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    ronin787 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:30 pm
    drat the police and their gestapo ways.
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    Swisskid10 Male 13-17
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:31 pm
    WTF??? What sort of idiot police force is that meant to be? And they`re your special forces? You wouldn`t get this kind of sh*t with the metropolitan police, I can tell you that.
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    WolfStar Female 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:31 pm
    I`d rather not watch dogs get shot, to be honest.
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    Trumple07 Male 13-17
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:35 pm
    This is why England uses less guns...
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:35 pm
    good lord not the dog...
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    Allmyfriends Male 13-17
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:39 pm
    This should be a movie! :)
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    aquaman1227 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:39 pm
    Wow.. this place is F`d up
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:41 pm
    Geez, would be better if they were fighting the drug lords instead but then again, those pay for their food so..
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:42 pm
    They have a warrant.

    If there`s nothing there, it`s the judge that issued it who is at fault.

    As for the dog killing, if it bit an officer, or presented a clear and present danger, then they acted appropriately.

    Once again, a video of cops doing nothing wrong, and people judging them for it.
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    Inter237 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:43 pm
    Couldn`t watch that. terrible post IAB
  20. Profile photo of MildCorma
    MildCorma Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:47 pm
    They are trained to shoot the dogs because the dogs are a serious threat. Alot of drug dealers, especially in england, train their dogs to attack. It`s like the SAS getting told off for shooting a terorist with a russian grenade 67 times. They all saw the grenade, and they all reacted to the threat how they were trained: shoot him till hes dead. No time for a "grendade!" shout as by then hes pulled the pin. This instant reaction saved lives, but the media an people that think they know better tried to second guess the situation. Same thing here, these guys are seeing a threat and reacting to it. There is no discussion "DOG!", "is it a good dog?", "well its standing ther.....OW MY FACE!" point made. You can`t try and claim something is "wrong" or "bad" until you know why. This guy did -something- to have the sodding SWAT knocking at his door. The fact he did something to warrant this means he is to blame for the kids
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:48 pm
    @mildcorma:

    Prepare for both of us to be told off for being right.
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    MildCorma Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:48 pm
    * seeing something that kids shouldn`t, not the police. The police are doing their job. If this guy has a warrant out for him it`s not because he`s father of the month ladies and gents.
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    Swisskid10 Male 13-17
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:50 pm
    @auburnjunkie
    How they acted can`t be justified whether they had a warrant or not. This just shows the mentality of the American police. They`re too trigger happy. Sure the British police or the Swiss police use guns, but they`re mainly for show. These guys are armored to the teeth, whether or not the dog was being aggresive, there was no excuse to shoot him. This is generally why police should have gun control seminars, so they don`t end up doing stupid sh*t like this. The behavior of these policemen was despicable and I hope the law suit (which is already well under way) goes to the advantage of the family.
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    Vligon Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:52 pm
    wtf ...
  25. Profile photo of MildCorma
    MildCorma Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:53 pm
    @auburnjunky

    It happens all too often tbh :(
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    Jowsh Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:53 pm
    that was quite disturbing :(
  27. Profile photo of MildCorma
    MildCorma Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:55 pm
    @Swisskid10

    What lawsuit? They have no case, the dogs were a clear and present threat and the SWAT aren`t trained to hold a sodding discussion in the middle of a raid. They are there to get a job done, this guy isn`t being searched because he is a model citizen. If you have the SWAT raiding your house for a warrant you aren`t a standard crim, you are a -serious- threat to society.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:55 pm
    I don`t know what prompted a judge to issue this warrant, Could`ve been a bad confidential informant or somebody else that got busted that tried to say this guy was his supplier. Whatever the cause, It turned out bad. You don`t break someone`s door down , Shoot their dog, and basically terrorize a family, In a narco raid for `small amount` of pot.
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    chidoricody Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:56 pm
    does anyone know if the dog died? =/ the barking stopped, so i assume so, but.....
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    the_windy Female 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:56 pm
    As much as I ADORE dogs, and hearing the dog`s yelps hurt me, I can`t hate the police for doing it.
    I don`t blame the officers here at all actually. It was the judge who issued the warrant who is at fault. If only a small amount of drugs was found, then he/she shouldn`t have issued the warrant without further proof.
    Plus, we don`t know what they know about this man. He could have had access to guns, which is why the force was needed.
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    sirryan1 Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:57 pm
    I am sorry that the dog was killed in this raid, but it is the owner that is mostly at fault. If he had not engaged in illegal activities then his house would have never been raided in the first place. It is very common for people who sell drugs to have dogs to guard against others (police or other drug dealers) who try to rip them off. Dog bite can become life threatening injuries. Regardless of whether you think a drug should be legal or not is not the issue. If you don`t like something like marijuana being considered illegal, I urge you to contact your congressman. California is voting in November to determine if marijuana will become legal or not.
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    chidoricody Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 2:58 pm
    and i dont agree with them shooting the dog, though i do understand it was the "appropriate" course of action..... they should have found a different way than that, surely they had a taser or something...
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    Swisskid10 Male 13-17
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:00 pm
    @MildCorma
    The law suit they`re launching against the police squad, and they very well have a case. The guy didn`t even end up getting arrested for possesion of drugs, merely possesion of drug paraphanelia. They quite clearly have a case, because this was an obvious case of incompetence. Whichever judge thought this guy was a drug lord, but actually was just an average stoner with a normal family and two dogs, was an idiot for not studying the case further, before issuing the warrant for a freaking SWAT squad to break down their door.
    @chicoricody one of the dogs died the other one was injured.
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    Jesse702 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:01 pm
    MildCorma is right. My dad is a fed, they are supposed to shoot any dogs. It`s not like they kill family pets for fun. My dad has adopted rescues that no one else wanted. They can`t just stand around and chance getting mauled. They have to do their jobs.
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:07 pm
    @Jesse702- I think that ends any debate then.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:07 pm
    This is the Israeli flotilla raid all over again.
    Disproportionate violence as per the norm in the US.
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    Swisskid10 Male 13-17
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:08 pm
    But the dogs weren`t showing any signs of aggression, they were barking in an excited manner. Like any dog would when strangers go in to their house. I`ve had my dog bark at nothing sometimes (or at least some small critter we couldn`t see). What they did was a clear overreaction.
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    Flying_cow_ Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:10 pm
    Goes to show you that all cops are wimpy fags hiding behind the barrel of a gun, it sounded like an ankle biter, a small harmless dog. Probually made them fell `safe` from the mostly harmless dog by shooting it multiple times...And really bad call raiding a family when the dad only smokes a little pot...F*cked up hardcore..
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    ManicRapture Female 13-17
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:11 pm
    oh my god......that`s what freakin` happens when we let trigger-happy ex-high school football players and dishonorably discharged trigger-happy military join the police force. GO F U C K YOURSELVES YOU NASTY, LOATHSOME PEOPLE!
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    jib Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:12 pm
    WOW WOW WOW
    usually I`m with the police, but this was such a huge disgrace. This really gets me angry. Not only did they perform a raid with a child present(which I understand in some cases is not avoidable), they also didn`t find any substantial amount of drugs. I would expect the police to monitor him and know when he would be loaded with drugs. This was a mistake but this was a HUGE mistake and heads should be rolling for this piece of poo

    ....wow
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    Ripper398 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:15 pm
    And cops wonder why they are so god dammed hated in the states.
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    josieflo Female 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:16 pm
    they have damn protective suits on.
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    Ogen Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:19 pm
    Guys... you realize that they sent in SWAT to catch someone with a tiny bit of weed? They brought semi-automatic weapons and shot his pets... they spent government money on this. They spent tax dollars to do THIS.

    Yet people here are trying to justify it, like it can be justified. I`m not angry at the cops, they were just doing their job. I`m angry at the lawmakers. Who continue to endorse a law which creates scenes like this.

    Even the police department who was responsible for this, apologized (I read about this months ago)and the chief of police condemned marijuana laws.

    And the owner isn`t at FAULT. You think that this guy with two kids, a guy who cries over his dogs, is a bad guy? A guy whom a SWAT team needed to take down? If they wanted to arrest him, there are a number of other ways to do this. Whoever ordered that raid is at fault. The DEA is at fault. Congress is at fault. But not that guy.
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    Jesse702 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:20 pm
    These people risk their lives doing their jobs. You never know what exactly you are going to face once you are in someones house. If the dog is barking or coming at them it gets shot. If they don`t have to shot the dog they wont. I remember my dad saying this one guys main concern with getting arrested was what was going to happen to his dog.
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    syke22 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:21 pm
    D: That was traumatizing, hearing those dogs being shot. Holy balls D:
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    Ripper398 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:25 pm
    Also for the people blasting and being incompetent tools about "If he was a model citizen this wouldn`t have happened.." "It`s his fault..."

    You are f#cking morons.

    I don`t smoke it myself... but if smoking some weed here and there makes this worthy of having your door kicked down, your family terrorized, your dog shot and killed (with no explanation the whole time of what is happening).. then I hope they bring back the prohibition, catch you drinking, and f#ck your world up as well. Incompetent mindless twats.
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    Swisskid10 Male 13-17
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:26 pm
    @Jesse
    What does a dog do when strangers enter its territory? It barks. Who were these police men to the dog? A stranger. No matter how calm a dog may be, it will bark when a dog intrudes upon its territory. Most policemen should understand this. Also they`re wearing full body-armour designed to protect them from gun shots, it should very well protect them from a dog, who doesn`t even seem aggresive.
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    Ogen Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:26 pm
    @Jesse702 You`ve missed the point completely.

    It isn`t about the police officers. I`m sure they didn`t think they were walking into a home with two nice dogs and kids. Geared up like that? I bet they walked in there thinking someone with a gun was inside, or someone dangerous. It isn`t about the police, and the people arguing against the police are wrong in making it about these officers.

    This is about the current law. And the fact that are government chooses to enforce it in this manner.

    But pot being illegal makes lots of powerful people, lots of money. So it stays illegal for the benefit of a few, and the rest of society suffers. Suffers from criminals who sell it, and the police who enforce its destruction.
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    emmachaos Female 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:27 pm
    @jesse702 if your dad is a fed then you shouldn`t be talking about him online right? because now you and your family can be subject to many thing unpleasant because you just said he was a fed... learn to be more secretive
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:28 pm
    Apart from the dogs I wonder: How much did that raid cost?

    In the end, they scored a joint worth of weed and a pipe (and had to share.)
    What became of "the dealer?"
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    canda1985 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:33 pm
    The police are nothing more than a gang with to much power.
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    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:36 pm
    "You can`t try and claim something is "wrong" or "bad" until you know why. This guy did -something- to have the sodding SWAT knocking at his door. The fact he did something to warrant this means he is to blame for the kids."

    Uh well considering the fact that he wasn`t even arrested kind of proves the fact that he wasn`t really doing something to endanger his kids.

    I wonder though, did they even send some cops out there to search the place with a warrant or did they just go from accusation straight to SWAT raid.
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    whocares3725 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:36 pm
    Maybe I just don`t know the whole story, but why the drat did they shoot the dog? If its only barking, and not threatening them they should have no right to shoot it.
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    whocares3725 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:38 pm
    From youtube video
    "his two dogs (one a pit bull that was caged in the kitchen and the other a Corgi)"

    Now can anyone explain just reason for them shooting those dogs?
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    RyanHake Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:39 pm
    This is disgusting...I almost threw up.
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    SaltyVarnish Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:43 pm
    unspeakable thoughts of revenge are entering my mind!
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    Ogen Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:43 pm
    @Lolboy How this kind of stuff happens is like this...

    Police departments get huge funding for drug enforcement. Ergo, each department bites at the chance to bust anyone doing/selling drugs. Marijuana is the most actively available illegal drug in the world, and is thus sold generally the most depending on area. In order to justify any drug enforcement section of a police department, they have to make a certain number of busts every year.

    But having the numbers isn`t enough. You can get bonus` for having good press about a raid. That is oftentimes why the SWAT record themselves raiding these houses, so it gets on the news and makes them look like they are doing something worth while, and effective.

    But marijuana can`t be stopped, or controlled. And the department itself knows that. But it wants its funding anyway. For every bust of a drug dealer, there are another five to take his place.
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    nastyn800 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:44 pm
    I can`t recollect ever watching a video as disturbing as this one. I very much hope this law enforcement get what they deserve. It`s not as though they even gave him very long to answer the door. Had they just waited a minute they could have prevented this horrible scenario.

    Does anyone have anymore info about this or a link to an article? I`d really like some more background on this one.
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    Thesphinx Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:45 pm
    WHAT THE drat.

    They shot the guy`s DOG. WHY DID THEY SHOOT THE GUY`S DOGS?!?!?!?!?!

    My god, this is horrible. Who would do such a thing? Bunch of horrible bastards.
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    ninjahamster Male 13-17
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:50 pm
    is the dog okay?
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    VikingGuy Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:53 pm
    right: the guy was a felon, had a firearm in the house (illegal for a felon) and he had a bag of drugs (argue all you like about legalizing, as it stands, it is currently illegal on paper, which is the only thing the world`s governments care about by now, lots of paper.)
    wrong: shooting the dogs and seating the kids there with guns pointed at them instead of guiding them outside, both are downright stupid and unjustifiable.

    but then again, this sort of thing isnt all that uncommon in the US anymore from what i see, the police and gov there are little better than a high tech gang by now. so much for freedom, liberty and justice for all.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:55 pm
    Wow, this shocking, not cool!
  63. Profile photo of Jesse702
    Jesse702 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 3:57 pm
    Yes a dog will most likely bark and run at someone entering the home. Policemen do understand this. They also understand the harsher realities of their job. The dog can still bite you in an area that the body amour isn’t protecting. Even if you are wearing a full bite suit being attacked by a dog during a raid will stop you from doing your job. That can cost you your life and the life of others.
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    Ogen Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 4:03 pm
    I just hope people watch this and realize how faulty our marijuana laws are, and how much they need to change.
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    Boredered Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 4:05 pm
    Why didn`t he open the door?
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    Maelstrom_x Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 4:05 pm
    Jesus, poor dog, they should`ve put it out of its misery, it sat there in pain...
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    Jesse702 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 4:16 pm
    FYI This guy isn’t your average Joe that smokes a little pot he has a lengthy rap sheet.
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    Jesse702 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 4:21 pm
    @emmachaos What is PETA going to punch me through the internet because I`m not like OMFG they shot dogs!!11!? Saying what my dad does for a living isn`t the same as spilling government secrets.
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    tyger9575 Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 4:28 pm
    I have a job that requires me to enter people`s yards with dogs. Most dogs will back down with pepper spray to the face, if necessary. Most law enforcement officers carry full-blown MACE! Burns eyes and throat, and makes it damn near impossible to do anything while you`re busy puking up your guts. Trust me, that will stop anyone/anything in their tracks if sprayed in the face, human or animal. Killing the dogs was totally unjustified. WTF?!?
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 4:31 pm
    This pales in comparison to what happened to Tommy Chong.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 4:32 pm
    But both are just as terrifying
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    Jesse702 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 4:41 pm
    @tyger9575 I don`t know what you carry but for the stuff a SWAT team uses, in order to be allowed to carry it you have to be sprayed with it first. A lot of people don’t carry it because they don’t want to be sprayed with it. Pepper spray is worse than mace. It`s really awful, you don’t want to be spraying that indoors.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 5:01 pm
    This bullsh*t happens more often than you might think.

    In 2008, A SWAT team did a drug raid on a house in Berwyn Heights, Maryland because authorities intercepted a package of marijuana, then allowed it to be delivered so they could burst into the place. They had no idea that the house they raided belonged the mayor of Berwyn Heights, Cheye Calvo. The SWAT team arrested Calvo and his mother-in-law and killed his two dogs. Read more about that here and see Calvo talk about it here.

    Countless times the authorities don`t even properly investigate before raiding. They can claim that someone is a narcotics dealer when all that person might have is a small amount for themselves and no eviden
  74. Profile photo of Ripper398
    Ripper398 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 5:18 pm
    Also for the people blasting and being incompetent tools about "If he was a model citizen this wouldn`t have happened.." "It`s his fault..."

    You are f#cking morons.

    I don`t smoke it myself... but if smoking some weed here and there makes this worthy of having your door kicked down, your family terrorized, your dog shot and killed (with no explanation the whole time of what is happening).. then I hope they bring back the prohibition, catch you drinking, and f#ck your world up as well. Incompetent mindless twats.
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    Volsunga Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 5:18 pm
    crime reports are in the public record. look it up, the guy was a dealer with more than just Marijuana. He was a convicted felon who had several weapons on the premises. An undercover cop was able to secure a warrant after he was able to buy marijuana and cocaine from this guy. The search retrieved the weapons and a small amount of marijuana. Further investigation found that he kept his stash in public storage and the stuff they found was just for him that night.
    As much as I love dogs, the SWAT team was justified in their actions. Dogs can be used as weapons and an officer must defend himself. The fact that the dealer was hiding behind children doesn`t make the officers at fault.

    I hate it when people post videos of police doing "horrifying things" and with 5 minutes of research, you can see that they are doing their jobs and they are justified. lern2google
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    citizen_kane Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 5:20 pm
    @ jesse: yeah right a drating corgi can cost you your life. and they also shot a pitbull that was kept in a cage in the kitchen. how that constituted a threat we`ll never know.
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    Gafnaz Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 5:24 pm
    It`s called New World Order, your up to your neck in [email protected] America, no more freedom for you! This vid makes me sick, very disturbing. Listen to Alex Jones at Prisonplanet.com or infowars.com and open your eyes! It only gets worse!
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    Metum Male 13-17
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    September 29, 2010 at 5:26 pm
    nice seeing what taxpayers dollars are going to
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 5:32 pm
    It`s called New World Order, your up to your neck in [email protected] America, no more freedom for you! This vid makes me sick, very disturbing. Listen to Alex Jones at Prisonplanet.com or infowars.com and open your eyes! It only gets worse!
    Congratulations, Gafnaz! You have just let the whole world know you are a f*cking moron. If you`re taking Alex Jones seriously, then I highly suggest checking yourself into the nearest mental health facility.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 5:39 pm
    Just fricken terrible, horrible, those cops should have nightmares.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    September 29, 2010 at 5:48 pm
    Volsunga: I`m calling your claims of `Felon with weapons` and `cocaine dealing` total baloney.

    And here is why, I found the story in the Kansas City Star Newspaper. Source
    There was no mention in the article of cocaine, weapons, or previous felony conviction. Thus, I believe you were making it up to make the cops look better.

    Everyone here knows that I`m normally Pro-Cop, But this raid was bad. The article mentions they shot both of his dogs, One was a pit bull that died, (But following articles show the dog was not aggressive) The other was a Corgi, It lived.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 5:49 pm
    @Volsunga

    That does NOT justify raiding his house at with his family inside in the middle of the night. If they wanted to arrest him they could`ve done somewhere where it could`ve been more discrete. They also could`ve raided his house when it wasn`t occupied.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 5:53 pm
    More substantiation here, Columbia Missourian
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    darkgear6 Male 70 & Over
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    September 29, 2010 at 5:53 pm
    so old, and i think a repost
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    September 29, 2010 at 5:56 pm
    darkgear6: Their civil suit was filed Sept. 20th, The video was recently released because of pre-trial disclosure. I`m pretty sure this is not a repost.
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    WhiteOokami Male 18-29
    38 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:04 pm
    Wow, they knocked like twice and then busted in and capping everything that drating moved. If someone was knocking on my door at like 2am, forgive me for not standing there asleep with my hand wrapped around the door handle to let anyone in for the first few knocks.
  87. Profile photo of SaltyVarnish
    SaltyVarnish Male 18-29
    678 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:06 pm
    @volsunga - You say do 5min research well that same action of doing basic research would have showed that he had drugs stored in a different place. In turn the county swat team would of had a 100% sucess in this mission. Unfortunatly they were trigger happy f*cking morons like yourself. The kids would not have been put through that the wife wouldn`t have and the dogs would be alive. so you say do research i agree but do it on the right end.
  88. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:07 pm
    other, unknown police officer(s)

    Wow now they`re even doing a bad job at covering their own 455es.
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    Jesse702 Male 18-29
    12 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:08 pm
    @citizen_kane Any distraction can cost you your life. Even the smallest dog can injure you. According to the police chief none of the dogs were in a cage. The pit bull was aggressive. It was shot non lethally first, it continued to try to attack. It was shot and killed. The corgi was in the crossfire and got shot in the paw.
  90. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:16 pm
    So they should shoot every distraction they see is that right?
  91. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:17 pm
    Jesse702: From the Missouri Columbian - "Once in the house, the defendant officers immediately shot a family pet dog, Nala, without any reasonable cause, according to the lawsuit. As the dog ran away, the officers pursued it from the front door into the kitchen, firing their assault weapons at the dog, until it died. A second dog, a corgi named Bruno, was wounded by the shots."

    That hardly seems `Aggressive` to me.
  92. Profile photo of MildCorma
    MildCorma Male 18-29
    496 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:27 pm
    @jesse702

    i`m glad we see sense at least...

    To everyone else: I think what you are missing here is the level of training these SWAT guys go through. They are taught to shoot dogs acting aggressively, not to consider the situation before acting. Fact is if they leave the dog and he gets aggressive that it could be all the distraction the crim needs to grab a pooeing shotgun. There is nothing to consider here, they did their job how they are trained to do it. The guy didn`t have a warrant on him with SWAT because he was a standard drugs user. He got himself into that situation, by breaking whatever law he did, judges have to have evidence of a law being broken to order a warrant, especially one that requires the use of the SWAT. You have to be packing heat and be considered a serious threat to any normal police officer to have the SWAT come after you. He should have thought about this before he broke laws, I have no respect for criminals.
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
    5195 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:30 pm
    I`m not finding any links to this "convicted felon with a firearm and cocain" thing, except in comments here and on YouTube.

    Anyone want to find a link to that?

    What I DID find was:

    "Police said they were acting on a tip that Jonathan Whitworth was a major marijuana distributor but found only a small amount of marijuana and drug paraphenailia."
  94. Profile photo of MildCorma
    MildCorma Male 18-29
    496 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:31 pm
    @cajun247

    Any distraction that is a potential threat yes. So if you have a parrot and he flies around, it`ll get shot. It`s not about the parrot being dangerous, it`s about the potential for the distraction to provide enough diversion to the police forces that the target can either get away or pull a gun etc etc. It`s not just the fact a dg might try to bite your balls off, it most likely won`t, but in the process of trying and all the SWAT reacting to the dog being aggressive the crim has got away / got a gun. In a situation where a split second "wtf?!" moment from an animal you did not see can cause you and your mates to get f`ed in the a by some shotgun pellets, you elimate the chance of it happening by removing the distraction.
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    Jesse702 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 6:33 pm
    @CrakrJak that is what the lawsuit reads, but none of us were there. I would take a police chiefs word before a guy who drove drunk through his neighborhood damaging 6 cars while yelling curses at his neighbors.
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    SaltyVarnish Male 18-29
    678 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:40 pm
    MORONS, IM SURROUNDED BY MORONS. If they are so aptly trained then you`d think they would be able to keep focus on their target not a bloody parrot flying around.
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    xbx214 Male 18-29
    958 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:44 pm
    @Mild Corma

    You are the biggest piece of poo ive ever seen comment on IAB.com THEY KILLED A ANIMAL TO SEARCH A HOUSE. WHY MUST THE DOG DIE FOR NO REASON THEY COULD EASLY BRING DOWN THAT DOG AND DETAIN ANYONE IN THE HOUSE. Dont give us that bullpoo safty precausion poo, You are a heartless jerk.
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    juicelessbox Female 13-17
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    September 29, 2010 at 6:45 pm
    Humans love their dogs. :`(
  99. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    Jesse702: That drunk driving charge was 2 years ago, Back in 2008. That has no bearing on this botched raid. No one is a saint, And digging up an old DUI charge on him is rather petty.
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    Nocciolina Female 18-29
    1623 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:50 pm
    Who the hell was recording this?
  101. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    So a dog that is sleeping is a "potential threat" right? Or how about dog that isn`t even moving?

    I didn`t here any barking even after the door got busted in. It doesn`t take half a brain to know that when something is running away or isn`t moving is NOT a distraction or potential threat, ergo ignorable. Also no SWAT officer is going to waste even half a second aiming at a bird.
  102. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 6:55 pm
    There are all sorts of places a bird can go (clambering on your clothes for example)? Not even a caged bird that makes a lot of noise qualifies by the standards you mentioned.
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    Ripper398 Male 18-29
    1310 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:56 pm
    MildCorma is a distraction from intellectual thinking. Keeeeeel him!
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    wake_n_bake Male 18-29
    663 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 6:59 pm
    This is why I smile inside every time I hear a cop has been shot/killed.
    I`m not trolling. I drating hate police. The job attracts control freaks who want to feel like big men.
    At my boxing gym, two of the cops that train have a contest of who can hit the most cats with their patrol cars.
    drating hate cops.
  105. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:00 pm
    While they are taught to deal with distractions they are also taught to minimize (understatement) property damage, injury, AND loss of human life. Do you honestly think half a foot of dry wall is going to stop 20 oz of 3500ft/s buck shot?

    Hell even a hostage qualifies as a distraction ergo a "potential threat".
  106. Profile photo of xbx214
    xbx214 Male 18-29
    958 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:07 pm
    Thank you people for having some common drating sense cops of all kind are trained in the wrong manner of thinking. To suspect everything is precausious yes, but sometimes you just gotta understand that your job is intitle to protect and serve, not to invade and aggressivly investigate.
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    shappy Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 7:13 pm
    yet another reason to not feel bad in the slightest when a cop gets killed
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    Jesse702 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 7:17 pm
    @CrakrJak What does it matter if it was two years ago? Was he not an adult, someone that’s responsible for their own actions? That DUI is a reflection of his character. He is not some model citizen that was unfairly targeted by police. This isn’t some petty detail. His past actions show he doesn’t have respect for the lives, well being, and property of others. I’m not saying they did everything perfect in the raid. He brought being raided on himself. His irresponsible actions are what hurt his family. Even if the raid had of went perfectly, it would still have been traumatic to his family.
  109. Profile photo of I-IS-BORED
    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:20 pm
    am i the only one who notices the tv was on but the guy was down the hall? he ran when they knocked...
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    xbx214 Male 18-29
    958 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:21 pm
    Jesse holy poo dude its a DUI for christ sakes... People drive drunk home all the time there just not noticed cuz there not drated this guy made a mistake and unfortunatly the beacon sizzled him.
  111. Profile photo of xbx214
    xbx214 Male 18-29
    958 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:22 pm
    Thank you people for having some common drating sense cops of all kind are trained in the wrong manner of thinking. To suspect everything is precausious yes, but sometimes you just gotta understand that your job is intitle to protect and serve, not to invade and aggressivly investigate.
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    xbx214 Male 18-29
    958 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:22 pm
    @Mild Corma

    You are the biggest piece of poo ive ever seen comment on IAB.com THEY KILLED A ANIMAL TO SEARCH A HOUSE. WHY MUST THE DOG DIE FOR NO REASON THEY COULD EASLY BRING DOWN THAT DOG AND DETAIN ANYONE IN THE HOUSE. Dont give us that bullpoo safty precausion poo, You are a heartless jerk.
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    Jesse702 Male 18-29
    12 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:23 pm
    Where are the dogs in the video? I`m not seeing them.
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    slipwax Male 18-29
    168 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:24 pm
    shappy and wake_n_bake, you are idiots.
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    Scotchy Male 18-29
    592 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:30 pm
    @wake

    I hope your family gets killed (not trolling) and when they find and prosecute the murders you will have a better outlook in life.

    in the news, what gets more ratings? The cops that do their duty, serve and protect taking down some of the biggest criminals? or when they screw things up?

    Only thing that ever gets reported is the smallest of small percentiles of bad cops, but thats all drat the police right? Yes, lets live in a lawless land where no one upholds anything, lets see how well we do back in the middle ages.
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    wake_n_bake Male 18-29
    663 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:30 pm
    @slipwax
    If someone wants to help their community, they`re going to become a fireman or a paramedic. People become cops so they can push people around.
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    wake_n_bake Male 18-29
    663 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:33 pm
    @Scotchy
    Well ya see, that will be forensic specialists, investigators, and prosecutors putting a murderer to trial. Not a patrol officer or Swat member
  118. Profile photo of nny156
    nny156 Male 18-29
    182 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:33 pm
    they broke into the house shot his dog traumatized his children all for a bag of weed they most likely planted when they didnt find poo

    every cop in this video should be drug out of there homes in the middle of the night and publicly executed
  119. Profile photo of Concetra
    Concetra Male 18-29
    2050 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:43 pm
    I respect the police but that was straight up bullpoo.
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    Jesse702 Male 18-29
    12 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:46 pm
    @xbx214 do you somehow not see how serious a DUI is?
  121. Profile photo of Ozmose
    Ozmose Male 30-39
    448 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:47 pm
    This is why I don`t feel bad when cops get killed.
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    Wizard715 Male 40-49
    7 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:55 pm
    Just to give this a bit of balance. Whitworth (the man the swat team was after) has a long history of breaking the law. He didn`t seem to concerned about children and animals when he tore up a neighborhood while intoxicated.

    I`m not condoning the actions of the SWAT team, but there seems to be a real liberal slant on the `harmlessness` of a little marijuana. Tell that to the people whose cars and neighborhoods he terrorized.

    Here is a link with information on Whitworth:
    http://www.riehlworldview.com /carnivorous_conservative/ 2010/05/ subject-of- missouri- swat-raid-was-no-angel.html
  123. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:57 pm
    That was alcohol Wizard NOT marijuana.
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    wsmithpa Male 30-39
    87 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 7:59 pm
    this is bullpoott... i dont think ive ever been so mad. if they killed my dog like that i think i would lose it.
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    Salted_Eggs Male 18-29
    774 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 8:06 pm
    I`m sure that neighborhood is safe thanks to these upstanding policemen.
    /end sarcasm

    Have police really become this utterly useless?
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    GuardinGnome Male 18-29
    2893 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 8:07 pm
    There HAD to have been a reason, I mean, come on.
    What the hell is wrong with cops these days.
    I don`t wish any death threats on them but, brutality, randomly shooting people/dogs, drugs while off duty.
    Where`s the Sean Connery beat cop of the old days?
    Where`s the justice, man?
  127. Profile photo of Lolboy
    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
    798 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 8:23 pm
    @xbx214: My doctor was just killed last yearwhen he was broadsided by a drunk driver that ran a red light, so maybe you should learn some drating tact before you run your mouth.

    What an ignorant faggot.

  128. Profile photo of MildCorma
    MildCorma Male 18-29
    496 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 8:29 pm
    I love how everyone is so upset that this law-breaker had the police pay him a visit and kill the only threat there, a dog (singular) and that`s bad? Jesus, he broke the fooking law and everyones blinded by a -dog- being killed, one dog, killed by people that train to kill dogs that act aggressively when they break and enter. WHAT DID YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN?! That they would calmy go and knock on the door of someone with previous convictions that has a firearm? You -cannot- take the chance, you -cannot- do the nice approach with a guy that is known for dealing and has a gun. You -do not- know how he is going to react, so you take the option that minimises the risk to the officers. SWAT teams get it done. If they had done the softly approach then maybe an officer gets capped or severely wounded. Maybe a kid gets caught in some random gunfire. SWAT get in there, isolate the crim and get him out, no random gunfire, no incidental human casulties.
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    EvaAve87 Female 18-29
    29 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 8:30 pm
    this is seriously FFFed the FFFF upppp... i am sick to my stomach because of this. how the hell could you shoot someones dog!!??!!
  130. Profile photo of SaltyVarnish
    SaltyVarnish Male 18-29
    678 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 8:32 pm
    @lolBOY - i think just about everyone has been touched in some way by tragic accidents. Now i don`t know what sort of relationship you had with your doctor whether it was lolly pops or popping your lollies. point is don`t expect people to keep up with your life and whether or not your doctor lives or dies. thing is ..... and it might be news to you, but there are other people in this world other than you.
  131. Profile photo of SaltyVarnish
    SaltyVarnish Male 18-29
    678 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 8:35 pm
    @mild corma - but you can do some more investigation. and you dont have to discharge your weapons with a seven year old in the house. The kid could have easily been caught in the crossfire just like that corgy.
  132. Profile photo of MildCorma
    MildCorma Male 18-29
    496 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 8:38 pm
    Taking chances risks lives, taking no chances minimises the risk to everyone, even the crim because he does not have the opportunity to put himself in a situation. So a dog died, oh dear, it`s a clear and present threat to the operation and acquisition of the target so it`s isolated. I`m not saying that these guys were acting on good info, or that the warrant was a good one from a good judge. I`m saying you shouldn`t be angry at the monkey for dancing when told to. These SWAT chaps did their job excellently, they isolated the crim and got him out of there with no casualties and one dead dog. If you have a problem with why they did that then you either don`t know the military or have never been in a situation that requires you think fast or lose your life. I know both. The difference is, a life threat you react to you survive, a life threat you don`t react to you die. You only know it was a life threat when you are dead. You don`t take the chances.
  133. Profile photo of EvaAve87
    EvaAve87 Female 18-29
    29 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 8:40 pm
    every dog would act aggressively when a bunch of people also acting aggressively enter the dogs house.. it is in there nature, imagine being a 7 yr old waking up in the middle of the night with there dog shot and dead in the middle of the room and there dad being arrested by at least ten guys with guns yelling at you... its messssed up
  134. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32829 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 8:42 pm
    am i the only one who notices the tv was on but the guy was down the hall?
    Why yes I-IS-BORED you are! lolz!
    I mean I noticed it was on, but didn`t put 2+2 together.
    Thus fails my idea that they bashed his door in while he was asleep.

    >> Initially I was pretty shocked by this video, but reading so comments has shifted me away from the guy and towards the cops. I still don`t like that they shot the doggie, but this guy they busted seems like pondscum and has no right to hide behind women and children...
  135. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 8:49 pm
    "you dont have to discharge your weapons with a seven year old in the house."

    That`s the dad`s fault.

    If he wasn`t dealing drugs, or whatever he did to get the warrant, he wouldn`t have put his children`s life in danger.

    I used to smoke and trip. Stopped when I had kids. It was an unnecessary danger to them.
  136. Profile photo of Victory7
    Victory7 Male 18-29
    362 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 8:50 pm
    I think I can clear up a lot of what Mild Corma is saying:
    Cops lives are worth more than yours. You are a criminal, not a human being. It`s COPS versus THEM. If shooting everything that moves secures their own safety, THEN SO BE IT. I have to wonder at the people saying "only one dog," as if somehow destroying a kid`s childhood and killing a close companion of someone is perfectly fine. I certainly don`t kill a dog every time one barks at me when I walk into a new house, and I certainly wouldn`t if I was covered from head to toe in body armor and equipment.
  137. Profile photo of MildCorma
    MildCorma Male 18-29
    496 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 8:54 pm
    "@mild corma - but you can do some more investigation. and you dont have to discharge your weapons with a seven year old in the house. The kid could have easily been caught in the crossfire just like that corgy."

    SAS and SWAT go through very similar training. In the shooting house (training building where they only use live rounds for realism which has completely interchangeable walls to change scenarios) they famously had maggy thatcher sit in a room with 2 targets whilst they stormed and shot live rounds inches from her. They did the same with Princess Diana, in fact she had to get a new haircut after her hair got set on fire a bit from a bullet shot at the target behind her. They don`t miss their targets.
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    jrodjarrod Male 18-29
    77 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 8:55 pm
    This isn`t right America.
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    Salted_Eggs Male 18-29
    774 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 8:59 pm
    MildCorma,

    While I see your logic makes sense to the individual swat team member, who in considering his life is greater than that of this home owning citizen, you do not have to be so rude. Some people are deeply attached to dogs and the death of one, no matter the circumstances, carries the same emotional weight as if a baby had been fed to a crocodile.

    In the end, every life has meaning, even that of a dog. And the only factor people use to determine the worth of a life is their own relationship to that life or the information you are told about that life from another individual.
  140. Profile photo of SaltyVarnish
    SaltyVarnish Male 18-29
    678 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 9:00 pm
    Good for you auburn, but the point remains. the organisation of this operation was pitiful carried out by a county swat team of idiots. The correct way would be to observe. how hard would it of been to stake the place out for one week put this guy under the observation. learn movements, deals so on and so fourth. it would have saved us this useless discussion board full of armchair warriors.
  141. Profile photo of SaltyVarnish
    SaltyVarnish Male 18-29
    678 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 9:01 pm
    so your saying they meant to hit the corgy in the paw??

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    BBJellyFish Male 18-29
    550 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 9:01 pm
    FOR GOD dratING SAKES!! ITS JUST dratING WEED!!!
    ..... this is ridicules. This wouldn`t have happened if weed was legal.
  143. Profile photo of keith2
    keith2 Male 30-39
    2588 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 9:02 pm
    yeah when i posted this they said oh hellz no we aint even lookin at what keith2 has for us
  144. Profile photo of SaltyVarnish
    SaltyVarnish Male 18-29
    678 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 9:08 pm
    Your an idiot Mr. Beaton
  145. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 9:08 pm
    "In the end, every life has meaning, even that of a dog."

    Sorry. I`m a dog person. Love `em to death.....

    It`s a dog. Not a human. 13,000 miles west of here they would be dinner.

    Pit Bull, as much as I hate to say it = shot in the face.

    Here`s a scenario. Cops bust in. Dog barks (he did bark, viciously), but the cops do not shoot it. They have no dog suppression equipment, and if they maced it, the fumes would have injured everyone in the house. (You should never discharge anti personnel spray indoors. Ever.)

    So, they let the dog roam. The SECOND they touched the perp to arrest him (which they did. Mirandized = arrested) that dog MORE THAN IS SAFE TO ASSUME, would have torn pooe up to defend the alpha male in the room (to the dog). One of the cop would have lost a face, or neck. (They had normal SWAT gear. Not ANTI RIOT.)

    A pit bull can bite up to 700lbs psi. That is a clear and present danger unless the dog is suppressed.
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    darthrex111 Male 13-17
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    September 29, 2010 at 9:13 pm
    Which a bunch of drating Idiots! they shot and killed an innocent dog?!?! For not even a small amount of weed?!?!?!?! NOT EVEN THAT BIG OF AN AMOUNT AND THEY TEAR A FAMILY APART?!??! dratING GODDAMN SWAT
  147. Profile photo of Salted_Eggs
    Salted_Eggs Male 18-29
    774 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 9:15 pm
    auburnjunky,

    I`m sorry, I can see how my point was misinterpreted. I wasn`t trying to get people to form a new idea about animals, I`m not a PETA person. I was asking for Mild to be a bit more mild in his rants.

    Obviously I don`t want the SWAT guy to get hurt, I don`t want anyone to die, and I don`t want anyone to kill, for any ideology or reason. I`m just a bleeding heart like that.
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    Ripper398 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 9:35 pm
    *rolls in in his desk chair, armed with his mouse, and runs away cowardly*
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    handys003 Male 50-59
    2402 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 9:40 pm
    Geez what a bunch of retards. Only from a state in the south that prays to God for conservatism. Where they were the focal point of the Kansas vs. Missouri war which was a main reason for part of the cause of the Civil war. Then only recently did they have to rescind the extermination orders against the Mormons. Crap just about every South east state God should poo on. Oh wait! Didn`t he do that with the BP spill when they were were begging for offshore drilling in the pursuit for their maniacal lust for Wal-mart style energy?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 9:52 pm
    @handys:

    What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this message board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no internets, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
    2402 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 10:04 pm
    There`s internet points? Damn I`m pissed I didn`t get any. Too bad so sad.
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    Stonardsftw Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:07 pm
    @MildCorma

    Yes, because a small Dog is a life threat when you`re covered in Body Armor.
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    Isafan Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:09 pm
    My heart stopped after I heard the shot and the dog whine.

    I don`t know what to say. Please don`t post stuff like this again.

    I would kill those police officers. Correction - I`d bust down their home doors and kill their children.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:15 pm
    As CrakrJak mentioned:
    As the dog ran away, the officers pursued it from the front door into the kitchen, firing their assault weapons at the dog

    You`re right CrakrJak it was TERRIFIED, and clearly did not want (or deserved) to get shot. They could`ve corraled the pets out of the house. If it was an attack dog I wouldn`t sympathize. It`s not just the pets we`re worried about it`s the wife and child as well. They wake up to someone bashing in their front door and then not too long after guns going off. Then the child watches as his dad walks in handcuffs.

    Sounds like three things in your childhood you`d like to forget but will need therapy because of.
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    bolle54 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:19 pm
    smart americans, i be happy that a iam a europeria
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:21 pm
    Now if they kicked the dog to get it to shutup I wouldn`t complain very much. They had enough men to occupy every room in the house enough to keep those `threats` contained and monitored.

    They weren`t just dealing with a convicted felon they were dealing family with CHILDREN (bear with me). You are NOT supposed to harm bystanders in any way.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:27 pm
    It was a Pit Bull Cajun.

    At least acknowledge they had to appreciate that.

    It could have run and hid, but attacked when they touched his master for all we know.

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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:28 pm
    "You are NOT supposed to harm bystanders in any way."

    They didn`t. They killed a dog. Not a bystander I would think. Not in a court of law anyway.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:29 pm
    Furthermore this man did not even have enough narcotics in his house to constitute this search.

    That the dad`s fault.

    Oh please, so many drug dealers are arrested on the street in the midst of the ACT. Not in the house with wife and child(ren) present.
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    Isafan Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:29 pm
    I don`t care about the kid - the little crap head will get over it. Dogs = will stay innocent forever. Humans are just scum in general. Find me a good person, and I`ll trade you a bad dog. They`re that few and far in between.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:30 pm
    appreciate that

    You`re right they had enough men to keep both animals contained and monitored.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:31 pm
    I was saying auburnjunky that they harmed a bystander PSYCHOLOGICALLY not physically.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:32 pm
    i.e. the child, by killing the dog.
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    Isafan Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:40 pm
    Pitbulls are NOT human killers. Get this through your thick and ignorant head before posting, "Oh well, it was a pitbull it may have been attacking... yadayada." I`m NOT saying this because I have one (although I do - she`s sleeping right here next to me). I`m saying this because PITBULLS that BITE humans in fighting rings are PUTDOWN. They are bred to fight other dogs, and are bred NOT to be HUMAN aggressive. Unike other breeds (Rots, German Shepards, etc) that are BRED specifically for human aggression (GUARD DOGS).

    Go to Dogbites.org.
    Get your facts.
    Don`t be an idiot, so I don`t have to be the ass that has to point your out for being ignorant.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:44 pm
    It is not hard to guess what an animal will do when it is outnumbered by four drastically larger creatures.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:49 pm
    a small animal.


    It`s not JUST the pets it`s EVERYTHING about this raid that reeks of wrong. They didn`t even bother to vet the information they were acting on.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:52 pm
    I`m not saying that isafan. I`ve owned one before.

    I know they do have a bite that`s about 700lbs psi, and they, as all dogs are, are very territorial.

    If it had lived, and lashed out in anger, or fear, or protecting its master, one of these cops would have lost a calf muscle, or a forearm. (SWAT gear does not = full body riot gear)

    Worst case scenario, cop is not on guard, and the dog gets his face, or neck.

    Once again. Pits are NOT human killers, but are more than capable of killing a human in a blink of an eye if provoked, threatened.
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    Isafan Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 10:53 pm
    @MildCorma
    The difference is, a life threat you react to you survive, a life threat you don`t react to you die. You only know it was a life threat when you are dead. You don`t take the chances."

    So, I`d like to get this straight as you are/have been in the Military - In Baghdad were we able to fire upon locals that looked like a threat? Or did you have to wait until fired upon? Fired upon, correct? So... what`s the difference? They gave the people inside NO opportunity to take control of the animal. They came in with guns blazing. That`s not acceptable for our military, nor should it be acceptable for our police back home. We do NOT put innocents lives in danger, even to `save our own skin.`
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:00 pm
    "We do NOT put innocents lives in danger, even to `save our own skin.`"

    I wasn`t in the room, but I can probably go out on a limb and guess they didn`t fire in the direction of any HUMANS.
  170. Profile photo of Isafan
    Isafan Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:02 pm
    Question: Do Pit Bulls have a 1600 PSI bite pressure?

    Answer:Dr. Brady Barr of National Geographic (Dangerous Encounters: Bite Force, 8pm est 8/18/2005) – Dr. Barr measured bite forces of many different creatures. Domestic dogs were included in the test.

    Here are the results of all of the animals tested:

    Humans: 120 pounds of bite pressure
    Domestic dogs: 320 LBS of pressure on avg. A German Shepard, American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) and Rottweiler were tested using a bite sleeve equipped with a specialized computer instrument. The APBT had the least amount of pressure of the 3 dogs tested.
    Wild dogs: 310 lbs
    Lions: 600 lbs
    White sharks: 600 lbs
    Hyenas: 1000 lbs
    Snapping turtles: 1000 lbs
    Crocodiles: 2500 lbs

    I think this "700 lbs" is bull. I have not done the testing though, so I can`t say for 100%.
  171. Profile photo of Isafan
    Isafan Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:07 pm
    I wasn`t in the room, but I can probably go out on a limb and guess that dog was not endangering any HUMANS.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:10 pm
    Once again. I love dogs. Sucks it had to die.

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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:11 pm
    No, it sucks it DIED. It did not have to.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:12 pm
    This whole incident sucks 455.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:13 pm
    @isafan:

    Okay. So you can see into the mind of a dog that is no longer alive.

    I heard the dog bark for a good 2 to 3 seconds, loudly, before they shot it. More than enough time to determine intent, and make a judgment call.

    At the end of the day, and it pains me to say this because I love them, but it`s a dog.

    Daddy shouldn`t have been breaking the law. If he hadn`t, the kids would be outside playing with rover tomorrow.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:18 pm
    Daddy shouldn`t have broke the law

    Ahh but Daddy WASN`T breaking the law.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:19 pm
    "Ahh but Daddy WASN`T breaking the law."

    So he got served a warrant by a judge for not a damn thing?

    Really?
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:21 pm
    They suspected he was a drug dealer auburn, when they raided his house they found TOO little substantiate the charge. You ask me those police should be charged with first-degree child endangerment.
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    Isafan Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:22 pm
    Auburn, I`m sure your dad sped once or twice - how`d you feel if his car was taken away? At the end of the day it`s only a car, and your dad shouldn`t have sped in the first place right?

    It may have been just as essential for the family. It could have been the kids best friend that he played with after school every day, and kept in his room at night while daddy wasn`t around to keep the big bad `night` monsters away. *personal experience*

    I can`t see into a dogs mind that`s dead, just like I can`t see into a persons mind when they`re dead. What I do know is this, dogs will bark - just like we talk. So, that dog might have been saying, "YO! SUP! OMG LEZ PLAYZ!!!!" and then BAM. Dead. I will say this though, dogs are innocent. They like to be loved, and the dog MORE THAN LIKELY didn`t see big mean police officers - just normal people, normal people that may pet and rub her belly.

    But you`re right, we will never know. All because instead of thin
  180. Profile photo of Isafan
    Isafan Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:24 pm
    But you`re right, we will never know. All because instead of thinking clearly and yelling, "GET THIS DOG UNDER CONTROL OR WE WILL SHOOT IT." They just shot it.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:30 pm
    @isafan: Who was there to get the dog under control?

    The cops covering the perp, the ones covering the family, or the ones sweeping the house because they have no clue who/what is in there?

    I`m gonna just defer this one. I love dogs, and I hate that this one died. It`s all a drated up thing.

    "how`d you feel if his car was taken away? At the end of the day it`s only a car, and your dad shouldn`t have sped in the first place right?"

    Do you know how many times as a teenager/early twenties kid I got my license snatched for speeding? :)
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    Uh_No Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:30 pm
    News Article

    Turns out, auburn, that the man was not breaking the law, and even then, "breaking the law" in such a minor capacity could never warrant such a response by police. You and your attitude are what`s wrong with our country. Please shut up before you reveal yourself to even more stupid than you already seem.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:35 pm
    @auburnjunky

    I`ve got so many parking ticket I can`t count and one speeding ticket.
    They did not take my (parent`s) vehicle away.
    I`ve been driving since I was 17.
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    Isafan Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:46 pm
    Auburn, the mother and child that were sitting there crying I`m sure would have had no problem grabbing the dog.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:49 pm
    Nor was my license snatched.


    These police officers overreacted (it`s rather sad they`re trained to do so).
    The police department overreacted.
  186. Profile photo of Isafan
    Isafan Male 18-29
    243 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 11:51 pm
    Uh no, you`re completely wrong - This is what`s great about this country. I`m capable to discuss with my fellow man OPENLY how I believe someone in a government position goofed up. That`s great right there, PLUS - it`s nice to have an intellectual debate now and again. It sharpens your mind, instead of being spoon fed everything.

    Auburn, no hard feelings. I used to not be a dog lover, but I got my pup at 19 years old and she`s my world (22 now). I respect your opinions and hope I have not offended you by stating mine.
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    Isafan Male 18-29
    243 posts
    September 29, 2010 at 11:53 pm
    With that I say good night. My pup keeps looking at me like, "what the poo. I`m tired. Get off the pc already." She won`t go lay on her doggy bed unless I`m laying in my bed /sigh.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:53 pm
    @uh no:

    "Turns out, auburn, that the man was not breaking the law"

    Why did a judge issue a warrant then? For the 50th time.....

    We don`t know everything.

    @isafan:

    I don`t think that at that moment, during the time of entry, before the house was swept, they would have let the mom, or the kids run around the house after the dog.

    Like I said before. The dogs being shot = wrong and terrible.

    The cops = doing their jobs. Period.

    They take warrant. Serve it. I`m sure that police protocol says to put down (potentially dangerous, as far as they know) animals that are loose when sweeping a house during a raid. They didn`t write that part of the handbook.

    Point is, let`s not say F the police. Let`s say why did the judge sign the damn warrant, and Damn it sucks that Spuds died.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:55 pm
    No problem isafan. One of the reasons I love this place is (sometimes) you can get in a debate, and not have it turn into some stupid shouting match with name calling and mindless childish boo hooing.

    Much respect.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:59 pm
    Because a misinformed person of questionable integrity gave the police false information. The judge should NOT have written that warrant.

    Like I said auburn they had enough men to keep those animals contained without hurting them, if only that was their first instinct. They didn`t even seem motivated to kill the other dog.
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    Uh_No Male 18-29
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    September 29, 2010 at 11:59 pm
    auburn, did you bother reading the article I posted? The judge made a mistake, as people do, expecting a large quantity of drugs to be present in the house, and there simply weren`t any. It`s not that "we don`t know everything", it`s that you don`t know anything, and still insist on arguing. If you can`t even bother reading an article, I can`t bother talking to you.
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    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
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    September 30, 2010 at 12:14 am
    SaltyVarnish: I am going to assume that you didn`t take the time to read their posts to get the context of my post. My whole point was that xbx should not downplay the seriousness of a DUI and say that "well everybody does it". The guy who`s house they broke into was a felon and had a DUI where he hit six cars.

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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 30, 2010 at 12:18 am
    @uh no:

    Why was he expecting a large quantity?
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 30, 2010 at 12:24 am
    Why was he expecting a large quantity?




    Again auburn he was a suspected drug dealer. The keyword there is drug dealer. Probably dealing it from his house or just as likely on the street either way would work. Geez, I should not have even dignified that with a response.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 30, 2010 at 12:26 am
    @SaltyVarnish


    Albeit difficult it`s not impossible for convicted felons to reform themselves. From what I`ve read he hasn`t had any convictions since `08.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 30, 2010 at 12:33 am
    Aww man it`s late I`m going to bed.
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    NotThatSmrt Male 18-29
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    September 30, 2010 at 12:36 am
    @auburn
    I think we can still say f the police.

    If you can`t tell the difference between a dangerous animal and a family pet - if you can`t tell by looking around that that house was not the home of dangerous people - but a normal family - if you are that ruled by testosterone and adrenalin and have no god given intelligence or intuition - you should not have a gun. you should not have the power to kick in someones door, you should not have the power to kill things. Yeah, the judge is f`d up too, but he`s not the one with the gun. how can cops have so much power, and no accountability ... it`s a bad combination.
  198. Profile photo of handys003
    handys003 Male 50-59
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    September 30, 2010 at 12:42 am
    auburnjunky replied;
    Once again. I love dogs. Sucks it had to die.

    handys003 responds:
    So did you pray for God to have mercy on that dogs soul?
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    Jesse702 Male 18-29
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    September 30, 2010 at 12:50 am
    @Isafan the last thing you would want is the woman running around trying to control the dogs. You would want her and the kid out of the way and safe from possible crossfire.

    I have a pit mix myself. I have been a vegetarian my whole life. I love animals. Unfortunately this dog died, but the cops really did not have a choice. Shooting the dog was necessary to keep everyone else safe.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 12:52 am
    "handys003 responds:
    So did you pray for God to have mercy on that dogs soul?"

    And this my friends, is how it goes from a firm but kind debate about the rights and wrongs of our justice system, to infants, playing with their own feces.

    Goodnight guys.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    September 30, 2010 at 12:55 am
    @auburn
    So your playing with your own feces then. That`s nasty of you auburn.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    September 30, 2010 at 1:07 am
    handys003: If animals have a soul, I`m sure God takes care of them. Don`t be a troll.
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    taelmx Female 18-29
    247 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 1:26 am
    WTF? They shot a house dog? In front of kids too? I`d be scarred for life...;__;
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    September 30, 2010 at 1:54 am
    So do trolls have souls?
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    smokeymcweed Male 18-29
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    September 30, 2010 at 2:18 am
    r the dogs dead? omg :s
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    laxdef36 Male 18-29
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    September 30, 2010 at 2:32 am
    That`s brutal, I hope karma drats with that non-nice individual who shot the dog, really badly.
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    iLove Female 18-29
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    September 30, 2010 at 2:47 am
    Missouri, you make me ashamed to live here. I can`t believe those non-nice individuals shot the dogs. drating dicks.
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    Buzzzed Male 50-59
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    September 30, 2010 at 3:16 am
    F*uckin Pigs. There was no reason to kill the dog. Did they shoot the kid to. FN bastards.
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    bankvole Male 30-39
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    September 30, 2010 at 3:24 am
    Thats horrible. The dog did not make any move to attack as there was no sound out of it until it was shot.
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    Hemtroll Male 18-29
    363 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 4:14 am
    Wow, motherdraters shot his dog? Give me a drating break, what the drat kind of bullpoo is this?
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    thebandit Male 18-29
    362 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 5:01 am
    you`re only allowed to be a cop if you have a complete dissent towards humanity. that`s why cops are disproportionally fat. they were made fun of as kids. you get into swat if you were made fun of for some other reason but are still mobile.
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    Lukgeezy Male 18-29
    606 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 6:22 am
    I hate cops....period, and especially when they do stupid things like abuse the position that was given to them for completing a CLEET class b/c they didn`t make the college sports cut.
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    poppakap1971 Male 30-39
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    September 30, 2010 at 6:30 am
    This is so fake you morons. First of all who is the guy with the pooty camcorder? Secondly the cops are too fat and the police lingo is off. They let the woman just scoot by and they said let the second dog go...way fake.
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    rainbowfarts Female 18-29
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    September 30, 2010 at 6:57 am
    umm...unless I missed it somehow I didn`t see a dog or any blood. From the sounds, the dog was still alive after the first shot so I imagine it would have been moving around and gotten blood somewhere. IDK poppakap1971 may have a point with the legitimacy of this video
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    MildCorma Male 18-29
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    September 30, 2010 at 7:01 am
    @saltyvarnish

    that`s cool Mike just don`t play this game as there is no need for it.
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    Isafan Male 18-29
    243 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 7:27 am
    Jesse702: Eh, I`m not a vegetarian - but I don`t eat any mammals. (Cows, Pigs, etc.) I don`t know what you call that, but it works for me and I`ve been doing it for almost three years now. Well, if they couldn`t have the mother and son handle the dogs then they should come prepared for dogs being in the house. 1/3 houses in america have a dog. Bring a drating animal control next time eh.
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    Luniz82 Male 18-29
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    September 30, 2010 at 7:33 am
    Everyday I hate cops more and more. I would love to see these cops lined up and executed like they deserve. Abuse of power and killing a man dog? They should all be shot and pissed on in the street, I would love to laugh in their families faces at their funerals.
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    Luniz82 Male 18-29
    588 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 7:41 am
    I know a whole swat team that would be on my list. They get civilian time to just a matter of finding out who they are and following them home. Take them out on the walk from the car to the house or the store. I am sure no one would miss their corruption, and it would make this world a safer place. This is the reason I do not feel any sympathy for dead cops.
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    Isafan Male 18-29
    243 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 7:43 am
    Has anyone else realized that this thread is dominated by male posts? It`s seems like men are the ones that really are offended that someone may bust into their homes with their family present and kill their dog. lol.

    Honestly, the part where I was living in Atlanta I bought two pitbulls for a reason. I had two of my friends hog tied in a 6 month period IN THEIR OWN APARTMENT, and two other people were shot and killed in my apartment complex. Who would want to barge into my apartment with two `scary` looking pitbulls roaming around? (This is a `nicer` part of atlanta, which for anyone that wants to live where they`re not afraid of getting shot daily shouldn`t move to atlanta and its suburbs. North East atlanta is the drug capital of the U.S. now. ... yay...

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    Luniz82 Male 18-29
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    September 30, 2010 at 7:48 am
    @Cajun the keyword is SUSPECT! that means they should not issue a search warrant cause they just SUSPECT he has something. I hope the guy gets a poo LOAD of money.
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    Luniz82 Male 18-29
    588 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 7:53 am
    "Once again, a video of cops doing nothing wrong, and people judging them for it." really Nothing wrong? Ok show me just ONE video where a cop is not doing something wrong. They ALL abuse their powers for personal gain whether it be running red lights or speeding to shooting a harmless dog because they have a gun.. I say we need to put real HUMAN in the position of power and get these worthless wastes of skin off my planet.
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    XaveMomma Female 30-39
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    September 30, 2010 at 7:55 am
    Dogs are annoying as hell anyway, they piss and crap everywhere; they just put the family and the dog out of it`s misery. I can`t believe people are on here crying over the dead dog. It`s the dude`s fault anyway, he shouldn`t have "dabbled".
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    beccab86 Female 18-29
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    September 30, 2010 at 7:59 am
    @Isafan
    It took me 2 days before I could get to the point where I would even watch the video. To assume that men are the only ones concerned about anyone shooting a dog is naive, and adding a little "lol" at the end of such a statement is just plain ignorant. This is heartbreaking, regardless of gender.
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    schmaples Male 18-29
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    September 30, 2010 at 8:15 am
    I live in como and I never heard about this. Then again I lived on campus last year so we didnt hear much about what was going on in the city if you would even call it a city. Anyway i could see our cops doing this you should see what they do when they bust up a party lol
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    schmaples Male 18-29
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    September 30, 2010 at 8:19 am
    also i better throw out the nug thats been sitting in my closet for two weeks or the cops might bust in and shoot my roomate
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    Baelzar Male 40-49
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    September 30, 2010 at 8:20 am
    Hooray for the War on Drugs.

    A policy so filled with fail, it`s worthy of Obama.
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    damokiwi Male 40-49
    75 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 9:40 am
    Hey, XaveMomma, go drat yourself. And the word I used wasn`t drat.
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    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
    515 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 9:41 am
    This is absolutely disgusting!!!!
  229. Profile photo of elderban
    elderban Male 30-39
    390 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 10:02 am
    If I were a police officer and a dog (or any animal) lunged at me, I would probably shoot it as well.

    Than being said, the department really needs to review their policies and consider a full-time SWAT team instead of relying on part-time officers to carry out the duties. They also need to confirm their sources and not rely solely on the word of another person that is awaiting conviction. They probably should have done an investigation, or at the least done an undercover buy. From what I have been reading, they didn`t do any of this.

    It`s unfortunate, but I don`t really think the officers acted maliciously...they were carrying out a search warrant, they were doing their job.
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    idiotfilter Male 18-29
    3916 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 10:33 am
    that dog`s yelping was the most horrible thing i`ve ever heard in my life....it almost made me cry and that never happens
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    angrynerd Male 30-39
    36 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 11:21 am
    And cops think they`re unduly hated. I hope he sues the hell out of those cops. Search warrant or not, that was unnecessary. Children and wife(?) present, dead dog, and for what?

    I`m so glad that "dangerous man" is off the street. along with his 5 year old pusher. And heaven forbid that dog had fleas
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 11:32 am
    "But as it stands today you have the marijuana friendliest administration since the Carter administration."

    Clinton was "friendly" with marijuana also :)
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 11:33 am
    All I can say is, if your heart bleeds too much, you will die from blood loss.
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    u_jesse_u Male 18-29
    170 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 12:10 pm
    Couldn`t even watch it. COPS ARE KILLERS!!!!!!!!!!!! Ever wonder what happened to the jerks in school that just like to pick on people? They become cops! Tell your neighborhood pig to shove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    u_jesse_u Male 18-29
    170 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 12:13 pm
    Oh and if you are blaming Obama for how these dick heads were raised, you are just one of them. Obama has nothing to do with the mentality that police officers share. I don`t like cops, but maybe that`s because I live in Vegas where a gang of cops kills an unarmed kid every week.
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    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
    3001 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 12:29 pm
    this was so upsetting to watch :(
    that was awful, just ruined my whole day...
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    Trumple07 Male 13-17
    422 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 1:14 pm
    This is why England uses less guns...
  238. Profile photo of Isafan
    Isafan Male 18-29
    243 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 1:52 pm
    Becca
    It`s naive to think that women aren`t concerned about it, I completely 100% agree. But I didn`t say that now did I? I said OFFENDED. Let me clarify myself - this OFFENDS me that someone would burst into my home, shoot my dog, point guns at my wife and child, while I`m held against a wall helpless. I believe my point of view is shared with most guys in here on the whole, where as more women are posting there concerns about the dogs only.

    lol

    Oh wait, does that lol make me ignorant as well? Now if you would, go make me a sammich.

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    Isafan Male 18-29
    243 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 2:00 pm
    But Becca you are correct. Everything is a bell curve. So my original post that you were so "offended" by should have read something like this.

    Has anyone realized that this thread is dominated by male posts? It seems like the majority of people offended by *yadda yadda* are male.

    K?
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    rav3n Male 18-29
    11 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 2:06 pm
    those americans have issues.. especialy the ones in authority positions.
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    yarrrpirate Male 18-29
    394 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 3:01 pm
    F*cking pigs. I hope they collectively get run over by a train.
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    Amurika Male 30-39
    282 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 3:30 pm
    Fascist SCUM!!
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    VAJENGA Male 30-39
    532 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 3:35 pm
    Drating douchebag pigs, I hope they all get fired. And don`t one of you morons say something like "Yeah but if someone breaks into your house and you need help the police will be the first ones you call", because where I live the scumbag crooked cops come about an hour and a half after you call them, just in time to clean up your dead body. That`s why I say shoot the bastards first so when coffee and donut time is over it`s the criminals that need their bodys cleaned up.
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    SwayzeCrazy4 Male 13-17
    234 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 4:14 pm
    This reminds me of the Gestapo.
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    alley228 Female 18-29
    238 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 8:26 pm
    omfg, i almost puked when i heard the poor dog. I hope they have something happen to them.
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    Loofa_King Male 18-29
    8 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 9:00 pm
    Oppressive police? We do we get to revolt?
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4006 posts
    September 30, 2010 at 11:07 pm
    "does anyone know if the dog died? =/ the barking stopped, so i assume so, but....."

    First shot = Only injured the dog that was startled when people barged in, in the middle of the night.

    Second, 3rd, 4th and 5th probably killed the dog.
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    BigMordecai Male 18-29
    94 posts
    October 1, 2010 at 12:02 am
    Ok everyone yelling at the swat team stfu. Seriously its not their fault, they are sent into areas which are dangerous by definition. If something becomes violent or dangerous it is to be suppressed. Period. This is the poo just got real team used for when a policeman would be shot and killed. There use was entirely inappropriate though. This poo happens when you send in a paramilitary force for marijuana. This was a huge problem and entirely wrong, but seriously people now have been sending the department death threats over a situation where someone didn`t actually get hurt while brutality and other worse mistakes are made everywhere.
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    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
    1299 posts
    October 1, 2010 at 12:41 am
    drating disgusting.

    I won`t poo on the SWAT teams dicks, they`re a legitimate tool in law enforcement. However, whomever ordered that SWAT carryout this warrant is a moron. All you need is several armed cops and a detective or so. You do not need paramiltary enforcers in Suburban Missouri, breaking down a door in the middle of the night unless you have massive amounts of evidence about a potentially violent suspect.

    Based on the evidence that they uncovered there was no sting, there was no undercover affirmation of this suspects status as a drug dealer, or an organized crime member.

    A loved memeber of someones family painted their home with their own blood for a dimebag and a pipe with resin. The only bigger bullpoo I can imagine is a prostitute getting gunned down because she was humping a John when the police broke into her apartment and they thought she was reaching for a gun.

    The war on drugs is bullpoo.
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    beccab86 Female 18-29
    347 posts
    October 1, 2010 at 1:46 am
    Yes, it does Isafan, but there`s oh so much more.
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    mrEcks Male 18-29
    29 posts
    October 1, 2010 at 2:34 am
    Columbia Missouri isn`t even suburbia. It`s a small college town. Based on the look of his house it wasn`t even in the area of dangerous activities. The most violent things that probably happens where he`s at would be beer pong and the occasional scuffle.
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
    6694 posts
    October 1, 2010 at 7:54 am
    Big Brother keeping down the man.
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    cregil Male 50-59
    12 posts
    October 1, 2010 at 7:41 pm
    @BigMordecai > Nope.

    No one should "stfu" because this is intolerable tyranny- and we do not need to be quiet about it-- it is hardly an isolated incident. It is not the worst, but it is typical. This merely adds to outrage. Be outraged-- it means you are a human.

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    meogE Male 18-29
    17 posts
    October 1, 2010 at 7:59 pm
    It`s sad that it`s illegal to kill the person that caused that dog`s death and probably scarred that child for life. I realize the swat team probably thought they were being attacked but whoever screwed up and sent them should be put down.
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    NeoDarkHunt Male 30-39
    38 posts
    October 2, 2010 at 12:46 am
    langauge? lol
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    keith2 Male 30-39
    2588 posts
    October 3, 2010 at 1:53 pm
    can`t believe so many people here are swinging on the cops nutsacks. if yall think having weed in the house is dangerous with kids, you might as well pour out all the beer and booze in your fridge. no? then shut up about the weed. the cops are wrong here and thats the bottom line. no excuses.
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    keith2 Male 30-39
    2588 posts
    October 3, 2010 at 1:59 pm
    Baelzar:"Hooray for the War on Drugs.

    A policy so filled with fail, it`s worthy of Obama."

    heh you mean Reagan, Bush I and Bush II? I`m not a big fan of Obama but the war on drugs is clearly a republican thing.
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    PTPete Female 30-39
    1236 posts
    October 3, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    @ cregil: I`m so with you on that.
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    ozzy4200 Male 18-29
    1 post
    October 3, 2010 at 9:10 pm
    f-ing nazi pigs. thats y i love reading about them getting shot and dieing. makes me laugh
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    o0wildcard0o Male 18-29
    1 post
    October 5, 2010 at 3:42 am
    You people are pathetic. Have you ever thought of what its like in a cops point of view? Swat team gets the order of a suspected drug trafficker. Drug dealers usually always are armed and no one wants to serve jail time. Swat breaks into house, checks their points and moves to apprehend suspect. Dog starts barking, noone knows if dog is violent or will take the owner being arrested as a threat and attack. Im not saying it was right of them to shoot the dog, but swat knows how dangerous their job is and how easily one of them can be killed. Although their job is to protect people, some may not do it as well as others. Without Law enforcement, there wouldnt be anyone there to prevent widespread anarchy. That being said, i know there is a person reading this who will be absolutely infuriated with me and for some reason that person will encourage it. I wonder though, what good could possibly come from tearing down the state? Please insert ridiculous, uneducated, comment here.
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    lastrogue Male 18-29
    176 posts
    October 5, 2010 at 8:41 pm
    Somewhat agree with o0wildcard0o but this was a failure and someone needs to pay restitution for the man`s losses as well as the damage to the family. My guess is the DA that served up the Warrant needs to be thinking hard about where they want to work after something like this... or at least it should be that way. it`s not always.
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
    5414 posts
    October 8, 2010 at 3:03 pm
    I saw this on the Alex Jones channel. They stormed his house for apparently having drugs. But he didn`t but they use as an excuse to burst down your door without reason. America`s freaky maaaan
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    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
    1299 posts
    October 14, 2010 at 8:11 am
    @ o0wildcard0o

    The dude owned Two Corgi`s.

    I think I could take a corgi WITHOUT SWAT armor... with it- I`m pretty sure it would be a nonentity.

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