The Great Debate: Pot vs. Meth

Submitted by: madest 6 years ago Funny

3.. 2.. 1.. Master Debate! They both make valid points.
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Male 56
wow , is there a debate over this?
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Male 556
Never would have thought. Still, I say it depends on the weed. I would think that only a more CBD-potent grass would do as you specified.
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Male 10,845
With that I`ll say if you`re at risk for schizophrenia you can stand to benefit from marijuana use.
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Male 10,845
there are also other studies that have drawn the same conclusion
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Male 10,845
correct
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Male 556
Cajun, just to clarify, their conclusion basically stated that schizophrenics who had used cannabis prior to their onset of schizophrenia were less severely affected by the illness, right?
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Male 10,845
Likewise boredest there are people who are adversely affected by alcohol more so than others. For that reason they shouldn`t consume alcohol.
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Male 10,845
@boredest
Fair enough here`s another schizophrenia and cannabis link.
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Male 556
Cajun247, your link about schizophrenia: they only used the chemical cannibidiol to treat the paranoid schizophrenics. Pot itself contains that chemical, plus THC and others. Depending on the pot, you might get more THC or more cannibidiol. The effects of each are highly different. THC is responsible for the anxiety and paranoia some people feel when getting high. For me, these feelings were so intense that I would become delusional. Either that or I would feel like I was losing my mind or going to die, and I`d curl up in my bed and try to sleep while the sound of my own heartbeat terrified me. After the high wore off and I woke up I still would not feel like myself for many weeks. Maybe I`m the only one who gets affected so intensely by pot, I really have no idea. But the point is, it can have negative psychological effects, which are often overlooked.
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Male 5,190
Duh he won. God it feels good to be off of my tolerance break.
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Female 62
pot affects people in different ways, okay?! so everybody who says it`s bad either has had their brain poluted or has had a bad trip...if you wanna live sober than do it, but please don`t down size your local stoner. they don`t appreciate it, everyone is different
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Male 10,845
And yeah they said for awhile "it sinks like a lead balloon" until they tested it on MythBusters.

Turns out, properly constructed, they can actually float.
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Male 10,845
@CrakrJak
Reply to my post:
Why don`t try reading source?
Reply to madest`s post:
and suddenly you`re pro-government?
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Male 17,512
Cajun 247: [quote]Cannibis has also been shown to effectively treat .schizophrenia[/quote]

Yeah and alcohol makes alcoholics functional for awhile (Ever heard of `Hair of the dog` ?), Until they get drunk.
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Male 17,512
madest: And I suppose your source, Likely `High Times` or something equally absurd, Isn`t biased ?

NIDA is part of the government, Are you now anti-government ?
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Female 1,380
Whoops, my bad. I totally forgot that my musical taste makes information I find on reliable sources invalid. Sorry.
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Female 121
I agree with flingspoo and the JUGGALETTE point.
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Male 556
Also, DrxSatanx (I don`t know why I`m even bothering arguing with you, typing that username), you`re an idiot. Those may be the only physical side effects, but if you take some one like me who gets so paranoid after smoking a lot of pot that it`s borderline psychosis, that sh*t could mess with your head long term. It affects everybody differently.
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Male 556
flingspoo, I was thinking the same thing about pot. Haven`t touched that stuff in quite some time. I don`t enjoy it at all anymore.
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Female 999
Your name is JUGGALETTE
Your argument is invalid.
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Female 999
Pot makes me kinda crazy and paranoid. I try to play it cool till I start itching and have to make sure the door`s locked a few more times.
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Female 1,380
MJ is so wonderful! <3
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Male 325
Yeah, a pothead and any other drug user both high at the same time, talking about anything is entertainment at its greatest. I love my friends.
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Male 124
i like it. lets go to a phish concert, dude!
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Male 333
Marilize legijuana!
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Male 185
If someone wants to do crystal meth, who is the government to tell them otherwise.
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Female 1,380
@thetas, legalizing pot would make the prisons less crowded of non violent offenders who get caught with marijuana that WE have to pay to house in prisons, and if it were legal, it wouldn`t be legal to just grow it on your own it would definitely be regulated. It`s not right that someone who gets high once in a while can lose their job and go to jail for doing absoutley nothing wrong. If it were legal, they would tax the poo out of it. It would also be safer because there is ALWAYS a chance of it being laced with something and with it being regulated there would be no chance of that happening any more.
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Female 1,006
How is this even an arguement? Pot won that. Hands down.
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Male 1,540
Let`s face it, the government is raking in huge sums of cash from the taxes on cigarettes, and moralfags will jack up that tax as much as they can so that it will stop smokers from doing their terribly habit and hopefully lower their own taxes. Hell, as long as everyone *else* is being taxed. But Marijuana on the other hand, you can grow it in your back yard, and there are lots of people who use it as an alternative medicine, thus lowering the profit to be had on normal medication that the common man can`t make on his own, meaning the big corporations hoarding money in the health business would make less money, and since corporations have a bigger say in government than we as voters do, making that happen is nearly impossible. Let`s face it, no one makes money off of pot so legalizing it would be next to impossible.

This coming from someone who kicked smoking cigarettes and hasn`t touched pot in his life (though I don`t take any meds ever, either.)
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Female 3,598
haha sweet...
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Male 716
@SarahofBorg Yeah fine but it`s still not totally justifiable
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Male 134
Yes, marijuana makes you quiet and polite, but it also makes you slightly retarded. Meth on the other hand, f**ks you up bad...
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Male 648
"I need to borrow 25 thousand dollars....from you....or someone you know. Can you make that happen?"
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Male 10,845
My point exactly Tonyjet.
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Male 3,296
As Chris Rock once said

"Take nine aspirins, and that will be the last headache you`ll ever have"

Most of the side effect for the legal drugs are far worse than the side effects for marijuana, and thats a fact.

Government doesnt care about our health, if they did then Tobacco and alcohol would be illegal.
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Female 3,562
regediT, so does not getting enough sleep. Nobody says you should smoke and then go back to work as an air traffic controller. It does what it`s supposed to do, and that`s getting high.
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Male 716
Cannabis in the short-term affects your concentration, memory, and problem solving ability, slows you right down.
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Male 321
i dont like how anti drug people sit there critizing marijuana, when they themselves are sitting there popping zoloft and ritallin, and 6 other "medications" for the made up illness the pharmecutical company says they have, oh and did i mention the side effects may include, vomiting, unwanted bowel movements, and possibley death. Marijuana`s only side effects are dry mouth and increased metabalism. also its much more cheaper
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Male 1,505
Meth will bend you over and drat the life out of you. Then it will make you drat up the lives of everyone in your orbit that doesn`t have the foresight to thoroughly disassociate themselves from you.
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Male 10,845
Don`t get me wrong JUGALETTE I like you know cannibis is exponentially safer than alcohol and tobacco, but just like everything else we put in our bodies they too can have there own downers.
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Male 10,845
Excuse me, I was getting dependence mixed with addiction.

Both have happened with cannibis but have very rarely been reported. Cannibis withdrawal symptoms are mild compared to tobacco withdrawal.
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Female 1,380
Mental dependence maybe but it is not physically addictive.
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Male 141
Ecstasy is still the most harmless drug evah!!!
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Male 384
been toking for 18 years now.
no mental health problems, no stealing car steroes to "score"... and, when i cant afford it, i just go without.

i do know people, however who have done some unmentionable things for other drugs, including Alcohol.
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Male 10,845
@JUGALETTE
Not really, there have been a few cases of dependence. But they are WAY smaller in proportion to tobacco smoke.
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Male 10,845
Darn it my link broke!
Here`s a new one.
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Female 1,380
@cajun it`s addictive properties are much lower than nicotine because mary jane isn`t addictive.
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Male 333
Studies say this..studies say that, god shut up! Every person experiences this differently, if it is harmful to your emotional state or whatever else then just don`t drating smoke pot! It`s not gonna be beneficial to EVERYBODY. It`s not as harmful as cigarettes OR alcohol especially when vaporized.

Drunks tend to be more violent and commit felenous acts of violence, but when was the last time you heard of a guy who was stoned and robbed a bank? I mean if you think it`s bad then just stay away from it, no reason to be so uptight and ruin it for everyone else who benefits from it by illegalizing it. It`s not going to kill you, chances are it won`t even hurt you
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Male 10,845
While it may be true for those who suffer from cannibis dependance have a significantly increased risk of depression and suicide, it`s addictive potential is MUCH lower than nicotine
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Male 10,845
Cannibis has also been shown to effectively treat .schizophrenia
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Male 10,845
Heck madest is right it`s not even true for joints.
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Male 10,845
@CrakrJak
Your first point is not true if it is vaporized.
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Male 7,378
Your source is biased as usual CJ. National Institute on Drug Abuse? Marijuana has not been found to harm the lungs at all. If it did they would not prescribe it to people suffering from lung cancer. Get informed.
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Male 10,845
@JUGGALETTEx0
You can also blame the Alcohol and Tobacco industries.
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Male 17,512
JUGGALETTEx0: Not true, Numerous studies have shown marijuana smoke to contain carcinogens and to be an irritant to the lungs. In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50-70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke.

And a number of studies have shown an association between chronic marijuana use and increased rates of anxiety, depression, suicidal ideation, and schizophrenia.

Source
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Male 716
Hey guys I was just kidding; one love, light up a fat one, 420, lets get f*ckin hiiiiiigh
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Female 1,380
The ONLY reason it`s illegal in the US is because the logging and textile industies were all lobbying against it because hemp can do soo much so they would lose A LOT of money if it were legal.
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Female 7,838
Well- i`m in the UK- where I cannot see this video because- well- they won`t let me! but I wish weed was legal here- even if only for medicinal reasons- just retarded its not.
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Male 2,868
SarahofBorg- Awesome show. Except the main character on that show, Mr. White, doesn`t smoke it. He only makes it. As least so far. He has killed a few dudes,though.
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Male 25,416
yawn!
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Female 1,380
lol @regediT have you EVER smoked? long term smoking, does NOT in any way cause depression or schizophrenia. There are NO long term effects of smoking marijuana known yet.
"Long term effects of marijuana have not yet been fully studied due to Federal government laws against marijuana research conducted by scientific method (verifying results of research independently and by multiple controlled sources)."
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Female 3,562
megavidiot: that`s basically the plot of Breaking Bad. A guy who has terminal cancer decides to start making meth.
It`s a damn awesome show.
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Female 3,562
I`ve never read a single report of pot causing depression or schizophrenia. Maybe you`re thinking of LSD?
Anyway, pot is sort of a wonder-drug. It`s a cure-all for many diseases, especially mental disorders, and it has basically zero side effects. If it were legalized, it would be a HUGE cash cow for pharmaceutical companies that sell it.
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Male 901
Kind of makes me want to do Meth, at least once, if I terminally diagnosed with Cancer or something.
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Female 108
Going on 10 years of being with MaryJane. She has been wonderful to me and my friends over the years, haven`t seen any depression or schizophrenia kick in yet. Regedit must be smoking parsley.
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Male 2,424
Man, this should be a show. The adventures of Pot and Crack.
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Male 716
I think ganja would be alright if you did it every now and then, but if you used it loads then the long term effects like depression and possibly schizophrenia can kick in, so it would suck.

I`m not comparing it to Meth(which is retarded), I`m just giving an opinion on ganja.
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Female 1,380
@omgzelda it`s only legal for medicinal purposes in 14 states and DC....I def want it decriminalized...legalization would be nice, but I highly doubt that will happen in our lifetime.
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Female 30
The only way one would be able to somewhat "overdose" on pot is if they were to smoke 1,315 joints in 20 minutes.

On another note, I`d like to see someone try.
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Male 2,549
I so badly want to go to a Phish concert right now.
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Female 382
POT!!
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Female 1,593
Lol, yes, marijuana is significantly safer than any other drug. It`s probably even safer than smoking in several cases.

It should be legal for medicinal purposes. Really.

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It is legal for medicinal purposes.

It, however, should be legal. Period.
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Male 37,910
you can`t overdose on pot.

You might over-eat on it, but not overdose.

so how dangerous could it be?
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Male 6,694
Meth is good for getting rid of teeth and looks. Also your job and life. If thats what you are going for then by all means be my guest.
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Male 886
I think I have sat in on that conversation a few times.
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Male 1,442
"This video contains content from Current TV LLC, who has blocked it in your contry on copyright grounds."

...bollocks. Copyrighting druggies.
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Male 5,190
Duh he won. God it feels good to be off of my tolerance break.
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Male 352
Lol, yes, marijuana is significantly safer than any other drug. It`s probably even safer than smoking in several cases.

It should be legal for medicinal purposes. Really.
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Male 437
i posted this before FU madest
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Male 30
wish i could watch this from work...screen cap looks funny...weed for the win...it keeps me from having emotional episodes
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Male 34
brilliant.
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Male 7,378
Link: The Great Debate: Pot vs. Meth [Rate Link] - 3.. 2.. 1.. Master Debate! They both make valid points.
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