Take a Ride in a Koenigsegg

Submitted by: madest 6 years ago

It"s a sweet Swedish mid-engine roadster.
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Male 12,365
[quote](Seriously, why does Hammond like Zondas?)[/quote]

Apart from the fact that they`re excellent supercars, it`s the ostentatious styling inside and out. Some supercars are quite restrained in their appearance, with elegant, refined interiors. Zondas are gleefully unrestrained in their appearance inside and out, with "I am a sci-fi spaceship" design. Hammond likes that exuberance. Supercars are toys and he likes his to remind him of being 10 because something that would have made him say "Wow, awesome!" when he was 10 will make him grin and laugh today.
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Male 4,004
"Top Gear is one of the best shows on TV. Even for the non-car enthusiast, you will love this show."

My girlfriend is not a car enthusiast and doesn`t like the show....but she doesn`t understand the relationships between the hosts and their quirks (Seriously, why does Hammond like Zondas?)
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Male 4,004
OLD friggin Episode.

I think James May still had GREAT NEWS concerning the Dacia Sandero back then...haha

For all who think this car is amazing, you are right, but this is the first model reviewed on the show, I believe it is the CCR (correct me if I`m wrong) and the newer faster one the Stig crashed was the CCX (was it not? Or was it the CCX-R which he had a spoiler added?)

Whatever. I have watched the show so much I actually, accidentally say "bonnet" and "boot" when referring to the hood and the trunk....I Love re-watching old episodes.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Top Gear is one of the best shows on TV. Even for the non-car enthusiast, you will love this show.[/quote]

Just make sure you pirate the original, as shown in the UK. Versions edited for showing abroad are always worse in some way. The music is often badly done (as in this case) and bits of the program are sometimes removed to make space for adverts. The original is a full hour long.

The producer of Top Gear has repeatedly referred to the many people (especially in the USA) who pirate Top Gear and understands why they do it. The Top Gear website jokes about how the pirate copies are available five minutes after the original program ends. The producer has referred to the Final Gear website, which has torrents for every episode of Top Gear.
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Male 1,312
omg if i could own any cra, it would be a koenigsegg
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Male 17,512
PierreJeanFR: If you`re going to troll at least learn some technique, and while you`re at it learn how to spell. It`s spelled reconciling.

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Male 876
Top Gear is one of the best shows on TV. Even for the non-car enthusiast, you will love this show.
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Male 6,694
Nice car.
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Male 1,360
AAAAWWWWW how cute, two boys fighting over cars reconceliating.I wish I was gay but I`ll leave that to Crakrjak. :>
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Male 17,512
davymid: Thanks. Handshake. :-)
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Male 12,138
Hell, I`d go so far as to call you a friend, or as close as you can get to a friend over the internet! You`re right though, we should try to be more civil to each other in future, I`m all for that. Mutual respect to disagree with each other`s positions and all that, but not to make it personal.

My apologies too, Crakr. Handshake?

Davy
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Male 12,138
Sorry Crakr, was out all day, just got back.

Sure, apology accepted (no need though) and likewise I apologise too. Sorry, I got hot under the collar on this one too.

By the way, just to clarify: please don`t think that I hate you, or even dislike you, at all. Sure, we have very different opinions on politics, religion etc, and we`re often at each other`s throats, but I don`t mean any disrespect (sorry, I was out of line on this thread, especially with the last post).

Quite the contrary, I enjoy your posts immensely even I don`t agree with much of your opinions. You`re clearly an intelligent guy, you`re one of THE VERY BEST contributors to this site, and kudos for sticking around despite some of the flak you get from me and others. This place would be less interesting without you (which is kinda the Prime Directive) and I for one am glad (sincerely) that you`re a part of this community.
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Male 12,365
[quote]The `Vette`s suspension has evolved, yes, but is still quite simple compared to some largely other-than-american machinery.[/quote]

True, but it`s also a lot cheaper. Which is a good rule of thumb for USA cars compared with cars from much of the rest of the world. Performance is better with much of the rest of the world, but the price/performance ratio is better with the USA.

One of the more famous Top Gear comparison tests was done a few years back with 3 4-door sports saloons. One from the USA (Chrysler), one from Australia (Holden), one from Britain (Jaguar). The Jag was the best, but it cost 50% more than the others and it wasn`t 50% better.
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Male 2,553
The `Vette`s suspension has evolved, yes, but is still quite simple compared to some largely other-than-american machinery.
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Male 17,512
davymid: Upon further consideration, I`m sorry. I shouldn`t have gotten angry with you. You`re entitled to your opinion, Even if it`s wrong in my eyes.

I forgive you and ask the for same.

It was not very Christian of me to be angry with you, Again I`m sorry.
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Male 17,512
davymid: [quote">To put that into perspective, that`s the exact same suspension technology that was used on Roman war-chariots.[quote">

SHOW ME THE DAMN ROMAN WAR CHARIOT that has a C5 or C6 independent rear suspension.

YOU posted a picture of a "SOLID AXLE LEAF SPRING SUSPENSION" to go with it. That is NOT the C5 or C6 independent suspension on the Corvette, Thus YOU LIED.

Even the wiki-source you linked to says it`s an independent double wishbone suspension. The fiberglass `monospring` you point to is used as anti-roll bar.

The auto parts industry doesn`t even call it `leaf spring`, Rather it`s called a Fiberglass Rear Spring

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Male 2,238
Sorry Crakr, he`s got you there, mate. Google doesn`t lie.
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Male 12,138
Not my words, seriously, you can even google that sh*t for yourself. At which point should I stop talking here?

In other news: homosexuality is not something you`re born with but a lifestyle choice, Global Warming is a myth put around by the liberal left commies, and evolution is a lie, because it was all made by God some 6000 years ago.

I don`t have any "anti-American" bias that you accuse me of, I have an "anti-head-in-the-sand-idiot" bias.

Dude, you know what? You`re right. The Corvette doesn`t have leaf-springs. Whatever helps you sleep at night. I`m done here.

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Male 12,138
[quote]davymid: You just can`t admit it when you are wrong. There are NO LEAF SPRINGS.[/quote]
Sure. Do me a favour, google "Corvette leaf spring", like I just did. 179,000 results. Let me type out the first page for you, to make it easier for you.

1. Corvette leaf spring - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2. Corvette leaf springs - Ultimatecarpage.com forums
3. 2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06: The Mystery of the Leaf Spring
4. 2005 Corvette - Specifications... transverse-mounted composite leaf spring
5. Cars - Corvette leaf springs: While most other cars use coil springs, the Corvette uses leaf springs
6. How to Replace a Leaf Spring in a Chevy Corvette | eHow.com
7. Chevrolet Corvette Leaf Springs - JCWhitney
8. Corvette Racing Episode 5: The Corvette`s leaf-spring suspension is pretty state-of-the-art.
9. How Difficult to Remove/Replace Front Leaf Spring?
10. 2010 Corvette Grand Sport: transverse-mounted composite leaf spring
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Male 17,512
davymid: You just can`t admit it when you are wrong.

There are NO LEAF SPRINGS.

There is One, Count it, ONE Fiberglass Anti-Roll Bar on the C5 C6 suspension. Calling that "Leaf springs" is total crap and you know it.

You have repeatedly shown your anti-American bias and it`s not just toward cars.

What`s really disturbing is that you won`t admit you were wrong when faced with overwhelming evidence. Not only that, But you attempt to claim victory with bogus information.

Geesh.
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Male 12,138
[quote]There is not a leaf spring in that whole car. Sorry to call you out like this, But Corvettes hasn`t had leaf springs for well over a decade, and you obviously showing your ignorance.[/quote]
I was merely demonstrating that there ARE leaf springs in a Corvette, that they DO have leaf spring technology (never mind haven`t for decades)
and that I am NOT ignorant. To be fair, it was the last part that rankled me: you have to be careful calling someone out as being ignorant - you may just provoke them into showing everyone that you`re wrong.

I`m done here.
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Male 17,512
davymid: "Rear: Independent unequal length double wishbones with transverse fiberglass mono-leaf spring mounted to allow for anti-roll effect." - quoting the article you linked with

It`s an anti-roll bar, NOT the main suspension components, As the picture you added earlier depicts.

You still fail because the C5 C6 suspensions are still `independent suspensions` That are not tied directly to the rear axle.

Note that it states Double Wisbone suspension. That is not a "Solid Axle Leaf Spring Suspension".

The so called "Spring" is an anti-roll bar made of one piece of fiberglass, Not the `leaf spring` (layers of steel) you implied.
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Male 16
*whistle* The new radar rider rig!
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Male 12,365
[quote]Watch the few Top Gear episodes on it if you don`t believe me (if Jeremy Clarkson, the awesome, but snarky, nationalist goon having one isn`t enough of a testament to its awesomeness).[/quote]

He got rid of it because it was too unreliable, so you might want to rethink that example.

He has praised various other USA cars, though.

He derides cars from all over the world and it is true that handling has traditionally been seen as pretty much irrelevant in USA cars. Driving patterns and cultural backgrounds are different. Long trips, straight roads...why pay attention to handling? Racing heritage is drag racing and the straightest possible track - why pay attention to handling? What most of the market in the USA wants is a soft ride as cheaply as possible with a very low state of tune (to extend the life of cheap components). So that`s what is mostly made.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Ever since I found out about the Koenigsegg CCXR, my DREAM has been to find one, steal it, MAX THAT BITCH OUT, then dive out of the car at full speed.

Yes, I want to kill myself via 250+ MPH road burn, and let the car crash. Preferably into something large and explosive.[/quote]

Wait a while and steal a Koenigsegg Agera instead. It`s replacing the CCXR because, well, you know, the CCXR wasn`t powerful enough.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Love Top Gear, but the voice audio is too-often overwhelmed by the crappy techno tunes.[/quote]

Only on material re-edited for distribution outside the UK (i.e. Youtube, BBC America, etc). The original version, as shown in the UK (a) doesn`t use crappy techno tunes at all and (b) never drowns out voices with music. Rarely, very rarely, they`ll play music over a bit of the engine noise, but that`s it. Over here, the audio on Top Gear is as outstanding as the camera work.

Licensing issues force them to use different music outside the UK, but I`ve no idea why they make such a hideous mess of it.
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Male 221
Mommy, Mommy, MOMMY... I want one.
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Male 29
Bottom line is that all cars are junk period there not made to last. If all the cars stayed working for ever there wouldn`t be automotive manufactures.Look at all the automotive failures in design.Batteries behind tires,Rubberbelts driving camshafts.Transversely mounted engines.Lets face it cars are junk buy a motorcycle.And at best,buy a motorcycle that doesnt have the transmission and the engine in the same case.<-----biggest motorcycle fail.
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Male 12,138
Crackrjak: "there is not a leaf spring in that whole car. Sorry to call you out like this, But Corvettes hasn`t had leaf springs for well over a decade, and you obviously showing your ignorance."

Sorry dude, you should be more careful when throwing around accusations of ignorance. All six generations of the Corvette have used Leaf Springs in some capacity, up to and including the current C6.
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Male 37
davymid absolutely fair! Glad we reached a consensus. To be honest, I`d take a Porsche over just about anything else in its price range. Drove one for a week, and driving anything else has just felt like a wagon. :-|
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Male 2,441
Cool
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Male 1,240
The Corvette C6 Z06 and ZR1 handle exceptionally well. So does the Cadillac CTS-V. I respect them.

That said, I don`t really want one. I don`t like the design or the interior. I haven`t been in the CTS-V, but the regular CTS is not as good as the euro counterpart. Slightly lower than a Volvo. The less is said about the corvette interior, the better.
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Male 2
American cars are getting better, the point in hand ford GT......exceptional car.....made in america....but look and see where the majority of parts are from.....europe. Yea the engine is made in america and yes thats a pretty important componant but any car company can make an engine...even the original le mans gt 40 that beat ferrari....the brits engineered that for you
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Male 321
For some reason, I kept expecting to see him suddenly get hit by a truck from the side (like in those car insurance commercials).
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Male 3,285
So who actually let this be on iab? koenig is an oldish car. froma few years back. Multiple cars have broken the "fastest car we`ve tested" record since that was shown on tv.
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Male 3,285
davymid, clarkson sold his GT a long time ago
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Male 383
I drove by their headquarters just a few weeks ago while on holidays. They make grand cars!
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Male 17,512
Another picture of the Corvette C6 Rear Suspension.

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Male 17,512
Davymid: The Corvette C5 or C6 suspension is NOT ON LEAF SPRINGS!

C5 C6 Suspension

There is not a leaf spring in that whole car.

Sorry to call you out like this, But Corvettes hasn`t had leaf springs for well over a decade, and you obviously showing your ignorance.
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Male 12,138
Uh_No, you`re dead right, and that`s why I said earlier about notable exceptions. The Ford GT is a f*cking epic car. As you said, Loudmouth Clarkson himself ordered one, and that`s a testament in and of itself.

Point is, I don`t say all American cars are crap, but you have to find the diamonds in the rough. And there are many diamonds, if you look hard enough. But likewise, a lot of crap to sift through.

Fair commentary?
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Male 5,190
Want. Don`t care.
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Male 1,375
mid engine??!?!! it`s one of the fastest cars int he world
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Male 37
@davymid if you`re trying to compare an American car to say, that koenigsegg, you`d make a better comparison in the Ford GT. A corvette is around the same price as a high-end BMW or low-end Porsche (new Boxster S-ish). A lot of American cars have plastic all over the place, and there are a chunk of them that have poor suspension, but you have to compare cars within the same price range and realize that it`s hard to compare the "fun factor". That all aside, the GT is a good car that handles the track just as well if not better than some of its more expensive euro counterparts. Watch the few Top Gear episodes on it if you don`t believe me (if Jeremy Clarkson, the awesome, but snarky, nationalist goon having one isn`t enough of a testament to its awesomeness).
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Male 1
is it just me or is everything like nothing hes driven before??
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Male 12,138
[quote]Davy, the `vette does have rear leaf springs, but they`re on a double-wishbone independent suspension, not a straight axle. [/quote]
Respect and soz Ollie, I stand corrected. And like I said, this may well be the most awesome supercar ever made - America is good at unexpectedly pulling the awesome out of the bag, not trying to troll here. I just want to see it on a competitive trial. I don`t mean a drag-strip, I mean a race round a technical track. If it wins, then damn, it wins outright, and full kudos.
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Male 25,416
Music was way to loud, could barely hear the host!
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Male 145
Why all the american car bashing? I own an American car made in 1999 with over 180K on the odometer. Besides, Toyota and Honda make some of the ugliest cars on the market.
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Male 1
For those who hate american cars I would just like to point out that the new mustang is putting out the same numbers as a bmw m3 I believe it is. The vette also does not use the leaf spring set up you showed, but a mono leaf spring design. Which seems to be very good considering its lap time on the nurmbring.

Just because some american cars suck at handling does not mean we can`t make a good handling car when we want to.
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Male 15,832
Davy, the `vette does have rear leaf springs, but they`re on a double-wishbone independent suspension, not a straight axle.
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Male 12,138
vv Yeah, I know Gerry. If I may use an analogy, having leaf-spring suspension on a 21st-century sports car is like having a top-of-the-line PC with dual six-core 3GHz Intel Xeon processors, 24 GB RAM, dual NVIDEA Quadro video cards, with the whole thing running on Windows 3.0.

I`ll probably be proven wrong, the SSC may well handle like a dream, but like I said I`ll reserve judgement until I hear more. American cars have a legacy of being all muscle, no finesse. There`s a reason why American motorsports has Nascar, while the rest of the world has Formula One. That`s all I`m saying.
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Male 768
Can`t watch, the music is too loud and masks his voice half the time.
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Male 37,914
@ davymid

Well, WHEELS are also on roman technology too, but I think we`ve made some improvements.
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Male 12,138
Crakr, I`ll reserve judgement until I learn more about how it handles. American cars are renowned (with a few notable exceptions) at being very fast in a straight line, but completely lacking in the poise, finesse and agility that you get in German, Italian, British or Japanese sports cars when handling corners.

Take the latest Corvette for example. Six-litre V8 engine pushing out 400 BHP at 400 ft-lbs of torque. THAT is f*cking awesome. Until you get to the suspension. It`s a leaf-spring suspension system. LEAF-SPRING!



To put that into perspective, that`s the exact same suspension technology that was used on Roman war-chariots.

Sure, the SSC is fast, no doubt about that, in a straight line. And I may well be wrong, it may handle beautifully round the curves. I`ll withhold judgement until I see it break all records around the Nürburgring.
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Male 52
you can easily find a musical equivalent to any exotic car. keoningsegg=metal
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Male 3,482
Ever since I found out about the Koenigsegg CCXR, my DREAM has been to find one, steal it, MAX THAT BITCH OUT, then dive out of the car at full speed.

Yes, I want to kill myself via 250+ MPH road burn, and let the car crash. Preferably into something large and explosive.
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Male 69
Daddy likes . . .
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Female 57
@Pooptart Jeremy Clarkson isn`t a douchnozzle, he`s a GOD.
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Male 17,512
I still believe this...

...is the better car for the money.
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Male 363
new fad in opening your car door, move aside lambo door hinges :D
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Female 1,190
whoa, that got my heart racing!
that sound is to die for,
though the design is (aesthetically of course) is meh, i feel like super cars kind of give and take from each other too much, or dont really move away enough from old designs :(
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Male 2,056
looks pretty cool

and why exactly is he wearing a Che shirt?
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Female 685
Bugatti Veyron: faster, 1000bhp and at least £300k more expensive. Unless you crash into a lake that is.
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Male 2,440
Another goddamn Che shirt. It`s like the official "I`m a stupid douchenozzle" t-shirt.
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Male 915
doors are ghey
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Male 15,510
Is he wearing a shirt of El Che? WTF
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Male 1,287
It`s hard for me to pick favorites since I`m not in this market demographic. I`d be happy with any supercar. Hell, I`d be happy with a brand new pickup. :(
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Male 491
Meh. Just another douchemobile
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Male 224
Ever since I saw the top gear episode about the Nobel M600 no other supercar has been able to take my love away. The M600 is just beautiful, fast and it`s made of steel. This Koenigsegg can simply go F* itself.
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Male 321
I didn`t know IKEA made cars too!
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Male 391
Love Top Gear, but the voice audio is too-often overwhelmed by the crappy techno tunes.
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Male 37
@andynaylor It`s just simply not true. For some reason I hear that bs over and over from brits (you are a brit, yes?)... The US is a huge country, which I`m pretty sure confuses everyone over there for some inexplicable reason. Also if you watched the Top Gear episode with the Ford GT you`d know that wasn`t the case.

I`ll totally concede that GM and Chrysler make their cars from plastic bottles and feces, though.
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Male 1,240
No, that was the Koenigsegg CCX. This is the CC8S, an older, less powerful, less insane model.

And the reason the CCX tried to kill the Stig was not it`s lack of a wing, a wing that`s not large enough to work at low speeds. It was because it was setup for something else, i.e. not the default setup or set up for the top gear test track. K. offered to do it, but top gear said no. K. also renamed the wing they already offered as an optional extra to the top gear wing, but make no mistake, they already offered it. Basicly, it became a PR thing that Koenigsegg took advantage of.
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Male 17,512
andynaylor: The SSC UA`s skidpad of 1.05 g is definitely not as shabby as you may believe.
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Male 1,222
@CrakrJak
I wouldnt buy an SSC UA just because its made in america
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Male 1,222
I like the taking off the roof thing
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Male 239
CrakrJak, the SSC UA is a blindingly fast car but it does suffer with the same inherant problem that all american supercars suffer from... when it comes to a corner anywhere in the world other than the states it would rather kill the driver than turn it
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Male 239
This is the car that nearly killed The Stig, he told them it needed a rear wing to improve the grip at high speed because it had none so they went away and redesigned it to have one.
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Male 17,512
May I respond to this with SSC Ultimate Aero 257mph, almost half the price, and made in America.
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Male 2,546
that car is as cool as its name is dumb
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Male 37
Hardly a new car, since this is one seriously old episode of top gear, but that -is- one wonderful car. I saw a CCX when I was over in EU, and it is one sexy, sexy car. I may be mistaken, but I am pretty sure the Koenigsegg was the fastest car around before the Bugatti Veyron reared its sexy head.
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Male 116
damn...
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Male 7,378
Link: Take a Ride in a Koenigsegg [Rate Link] - It`s a sweet Swedish mid-engine roadster.
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